tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN June 26, 2013 4:00pm-5:01pm PDT
>> i started balling. ♪ god bless america >> new york. that is it for me. thanks very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. the supreme court rules on gay marriage. is this issue over, over, over for america? plus nfl star aaron hernandez arrested. why prosecutors say he killed his friend. and paula deen cries. will tears save her career after she used the n-word? let's go outfront. outfront tonight victory and defeat. two crucial rulings from the supreme court today on gay marriage. the court decided that legally
married same-sex couples are entitled to the same benefits as heterosexual married couples. the court sectly dismissed california's proposition 8 appeal. what that does is clear the way for same-sex couples to get married in the state of california. but it wasn't an absolute victory for gay rights advocates because the high court declined to do something very important and that is to make a sweeping statement on the broader issue nationwide where 30 states have their own rules. this was far from a blanket all of a sudden everything is fine in america if you support gay marriage. supporters were quick to applaud the court. >> the united states supreme court in two important decisions brings us that much closer to try equality. >> i finally get to look at the
man that i love and finally say, will you please marry me? >> the decenters were just as vocal. >> this court has taken upon itself the attempt to redefine marriage. >> the supreme court has no authority when it comes to the nature of marriage. that authority belongs to the creator. >> so what do these rulings really mean for the gay community and this country? outfront tonight dustin lance black who won the academy award for the movie "milk" which is the story of california's first openly gay official. joel burns whose video speech to gay teens three years ago went viral receiving millions of hits on the internet making it one of the most watched videos of the it gets better campaign. in your acceptance speech you
talked about the first time you heard harvey milk's story and you said it gave me hope to live my life and the hope that one day i can live my life openly as who i am and maybe fall in love and one day get married. you are part of the board that fought that prop 8 in california. do you feel huge victory? >> oh, yeah. my goodness. i get teary just hearing those words again. four years ago this was a dream and a lot of people were saying it was too soon to take this fight federal. i thought of harvey milk who said we can no longer demand crumbs of equality. i got a phone call from my big brother in virginia and he came out to me. it opened my eyes to the idea of federal equality. i needed to make sure my wins here applied to my big brother.
i know today we are one step closer to that. i feel so jubilant that we see a path forward to full equality nationwide. it breaks my heart because my big brother who came out to me passed away. he will never know what this day feels like and even if he had been here it wouldn't quite apply to him yet. as jubilant as i am i know we are not done. >> we are not done. joel, how do you feel? is jubilant a fair word to describe how you feel today? you live in a state one of the 38 that it is illegal to be married and a same-sex couple? >> i feel much the same way. it is jubilant and something to celebrate that we have overturned these discrimatory laws and they are no longer in the books in america. there is a lot of things for people to get out of it besides what i get out of it personally, the fact i can potentially file
joint income tax next year with my husband. i am in a state that doesn't recognize marriage equality. >> you are the first person i have ever heard excited about filing tax returns. that should say how meaningful this is. go ahead. >> it gives me more justification to make him file the taxes for me. it is not only these personal things but also the stories of youth, the 14 year old in texas of today that is 30 years youngerer than me that 30 years ago when i was growing up i never saw an avenue to have the life that i have today with my husband. and there is a 14 year old in crowley, texas and small towns all over the 37 states that do not have marriage equality that have a lot more hope in their future because of the rulings that came down. >> they have a lot more hope. the views in this country have changed. and i guess when you look at the
scope of history the speed with which views in this country have changed on this issue seems to be lightning speed. 1978, 53% of americans felt homosexual relationships was morally wrong. now the number is 44%. that is a huge drop in a few decades. 44% is also still a high number. what are young people still going to be fighting against? >> well, misinformation, lies, stereotypes that are very outdated. this has been a civil rights movement based on story telling, based on coming out. a lot of people have been brave enough to come out and tell their stories. it is the only way, the connection one-on-one story telling that disspells the lies and myths, things people are told that really injure the soul, the self-esteem of these young people.
we have been moving quickly because we have learned to tell our stories. that number tells me we need to be telling our stories in the south. we need to be telling the stories in the 30 plus states that don't have eequality yet. it is a call to action to say get busy, guys, come out at work. come out at your church and tell your story and bring your loved one to your christmas party. put a real face to this thing we call lgbt equality and that will change minds. if you change minds you can change communities in the most conservative states and we can get equality in all 50 soon. >> it may change how afraid and bullied and alone some people feel. i want to play a little of that video of when you came out and you talked to all of these teens in a state and city council in fort worth where people thought you would never do what you did but you did. i want to play a clip of it. >> to those who are feeling very
alone tonight please know that i understand how you feel, that things will get easier. please stick around to make those happy memories for yourself. it may not seem like it tonight but they will. and the attitudes of society will change. please live long enough to be there to see it. >> joel, it seems like there was like a lifetime of emotion and hurt there in what you said. >> as i mentioned there will be changes in society's attitudes and those are happening. tonight is certainly a night to celebrate. tomorrow we go back to work for the 37 states where we don't have marriage equality and keep fighting the good fight. >> thank you very much. we appreciate them taking the time. obviously you heard how they felt. battle still to be fought. jubilant the word to describe how they feel today. an nfl star arrested for
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aaron hernandez charged with murder. the former patriots tight end dropped from the team shortly after his arrest is being held without bail for quote orchestrating the execution of lloyd. prosecutors say the two were seen together on surveillance video hours before lloyd was murdered. susan candiotti is out front. they searched hernandez's home a couple of times and not chosen to go ahead with an arrest. they went with that today. what are some of the details you learned today? >> reporter: it took more than almost nine days for prosecutors to get these charges together and show up on his door step just before 9:00 this morning to put hand cuffs on him. what we learned in court today was moret about what kind of evidence they have. they talked about the two men getting together on surveillance
video, being seen on surveillance video before the murder took place. and they claim that hernandez is seen on videotape near where his victim lived and his sisterer saw him get into the car. they also said the victim in this case sent a text to his sister saying do you see who i'm with, nfl just so you know. after that authorities say the two men were driven and possibly more in the car were driven to an industrial area less than a mile from aaron hernandez's home. that is when the men got out of the car and prosecutorer ee eort is when lloyd was shot. >> the evidence will show defendant had the motive, means, opportunity to perpetrate the crime. he orchestrated the crime from the beginning and took steps to destroy and conceal evidence.
the strong evidence is against him. >> in fact, some of the things that they also found were shell casings from a .45 caliber weapon. it aappears they have not yet found the murder weapon because they were referring to it in court as the unknown murder weapon. they have found the shell casings. they also found them in a rental car registered to aaron hernandez. they found the keys to the rental car on the person of the victim that was killed in this case. so the prosecutors insist that they have a very strong case. the defense, on the other hand calls it circumstantial. >> thank you very much, susan. certainly a bizarre case developed very quickly and changed a lot. i want to move on to ariel castro because a mental evaluation has been ordered for him. he is the man who held three women captive in his home for more than a decade.
h . >> ariel castro is 52 years old and pleaded not guilty. they indicated his team that they would make a plea deal if the other side would go ahead and remove the counts that would cause the death penalty. prosecutors allege he forcibly terminated the pregnancies of one of the three women he kidnapped. this is a crucial question here because they are saying we'll make a plea if you take some of the charges off the table. they are going to have a psychiatric evaluation performed tomorrow. what does this kind of evaluation entail and how does this change whether he is competent for stand trial. >> this evaluation is going to be certainly a mental illness competency eval.
they are going to look at whether there is iq issues. they are going to look at neurpsychological testing to make sure there are no organic disorders. the most important thing is whether he is malingering, whether he will be feigning or trying to feign mental illness. >> given what we already know, what we have reported and i know you were here night by night as this incomprehensible story was developing, do you think he will be found competent? >> i think he will be found competent because we have to look at the past. this is a person allegedly who committed these crimes. he will plead guilty to some of them. certainly he had the wherewithal to hide this crime for many, many years. therefore i do believe he will be found competent. he will understand the charges
being filed against him and certainly he will be able to help in his own defense. >> thank you very much. still to come, will he stay or will he go? nsa leak eer edward snowden remains in russia. an american teenager admits to aiding al qaeda. how much time will he serve, should he serve for attempting to work for america's enemies? and paula deen's emotional response to the controversy she created. were tears enough to save her career? ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. hurry, before this opportunity cools off.
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our third story out front, snowden rejected? apparently he is becoming a global hot potato and nobody really wants him. the u.s. still can't get a grip on him. it is the stuff of movies but this is real life. the nsa leaker is still hiding out in the main moscow airport in the transit area between arrival gates and passport check points. but vladimir putin said ehe wants snowden to go sooner rather than later. ecuador said it would consider snowden's request for asylum. and a spanish lawyer who has worked with julian assange and his global battle, he says he doesn't want to add snowden to his client roster. there is the global hot potato. you are looking at him. who is going to help snowden? what does snowden do now? presumably he is where you are
in some limbo between arrivals and departurers? >> we think he might still be here. you have to fly back out of this country in order to go somewhere else. you can't just leave the airport. if he is still here in some vip lounge or maybe in a hotel. we are waiting to see if he takes that flight to, say, cuba, as we thought he might a few days ago. no word yet whether the russians have decided what to do with him. you get the feeling being here that they would like to see this problem over with themselves. >> certainly starting to get that feeling. we are also hearing more about some of snowden's past online activities which seem to be highly relevant to what is happening right now. what have you learned? >> you know, a few years ago the website said he posted an online on their website regarding what happened in 2009 when the "new
york times" was quoting leaks about cyber attacks on iran. and they say that snowden said and quote who the f are the anonymous sources telling them this? those people should be shot in the balls. that was something snowden posted in 2009 according to that website. obviously his views on this has changed greatly in the past few years. >> some would say they change greatly and others say he is a hypocrit and that is where the tension is over edward snowden. emotional testimony at the george zimmerman trial today. today was a fascinating day because the girlfriend, the friend of trayvon martin who was on the phone with him when he died, a part of that last conversation in his life took the stand. plus paula deen's emotional response to her critics he enough to save her career. and america's dirtiest beaches. we view it as our public duty to
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welcome back. we focus on stories from the front line. an official briefed on the condition of nelson mandela says he is on life support tonight. he was told by doctors they are doing everything they can. the 94-year-old icon has been hospital sized since june 8 for a recurring lung infection. south africans expect the worse. one man said when it is his time we wish his soul could rest. he spent so long in jail and struggling. outfront learned an
18-year-old american citizen has pleaded guilty for attempting to provide support to an al qaeda. he was arrested at jfk airport in new york. in recorded conversations with under cover investigators he quoted leader. the irs can't catch a break. a new watch dog report shows agency was not keeping an eye on employees with with credit cards. we know it is common to wine and down. in one instance employees ordered more than 28 bottles of wine for 41 guests. that is positively wall street spending more than $50,000 on them in a week. two employees may have tried to buy porn.
and a woman spent more than $2,500 on diet pills, romance novels, steaks and baby bottles. it has been 690 days since america lost its top credit ratings. we have been telling you how it is lately. the markets don't want the economy to grow that quickly because that means ben bernanke will take out the free money. and a tense day of testimony in george zimmerman's murder trial. the prosecution star witness took the stand. her name is rachel jeantel. she was trayvon martin's friend. she told the jury she was on the phone with him when he approached the teen. >> he said why are you following me and i heard him say what are you doing around here.
>> martin savage is in florida for us. everybody was watching her. she was the person speaking to trayvon martin the last moment he was alive and as he died what else did she say? >> reporter: from a totally nonlegal perspective it was one of the most remarkable testimonies i have ever seen. and there is a lot you can talk about. let's talk about the specifics. on top of saying she claims it was george zimmerman she could hear being the aggressor she says she can hear trayvon saying get off, get off. that would clearly imply it moved beyond george zimmerman confronting the teen to assaulting the team and perhaps on top of the teen which flies in the face of the self-defense. she said previously and on the stand that the voice, the 911 call, the screaming heard in the background she talks to trayvon, did talk to him all the time and she says it was trayvon.
she recognizes the voice. her testimony has been very damaging to the defense. however, there has been some inconsistencies and that is what the defense is going to continue to go after. >> we are going to talk about a lot of those. there are a lot of serious ones when it comes to rachel jeantel's story. what about the martin family? did they have reaction? they must have been thrilled when they heard her speaking. was it seen on their faces? >> not thrill, no. you look at the parents and they were in tears because there were times that this young lady told a very -- she has a burden on her. you can tell that. she is the last person to talk to their son. she carries that burden. so she is saying she couldn't go to his funeral. she lied and said she was in the hospital. she said she couldn't go to the funeral because it was too much for her.
you saw the parents of trayvon martin starting to break down. however interestingly it seems they were the only ones affected. >> we are going to be talking to martin family attorneys about the inconsistency when rachael said she was at the funeral and turns out she wasn't there. one controversial point about that star witness, rachel jeantel, came out before she took the stand. it has to do with what she wrote on facebook and twitter. >> reporter: weeks before she took the stand trayvon martin's friend, rachel jeantel was already making statements. the 19 year old was on facebook and twitter showing off her fresh manicure for court and a last drink before a tough week ahead. she seemed to be tweeting on the case, remember who caused the funeral to happen. the tweet was deleted but just over a week ago she seems to tweet again about her pending testimony. deal with the bull come with it. jeantel was on the phone with
martin last year when he encountered george zimmerman. her credibility is vital to the prosecution's case and it is under attack. >> you lied to her and said you were 16? >> yes. >> the online comments haven't been an issue in court so far. more than just the defendant witnesses, even jurors are being checked for digital finger prints. >> it is not unusual with just a little bit of discovery and a little bit of footwork lawyers and police alike are finding out treasure-troves of information about people on their social media accounts. >> and the defense has used it. mark challenged this witness about a pro trayvon martin comment on facebook. >> tell me what that says right there? >> prosecute the killer of our son. sign the petition. >> reporter: and a week earlier the judge raised questions about posts from a potential juror. >> did you post something on march 21, 2012 under the coffee
party progressives? >> reporter: that man was dismissed. >> our private activities online in digital media are public. >> reporter: usc professor and social networking professor says this could be the beginning. high profile trials are a source of instant feedback to attorneys. >> they can make decisions to tweak their prosecution or defense to try to take advantage of what they are learning from this online discussion. >> reporter: in this case george zimmerman's defense team actively monitors multiple twitter hash tags but we are told those comments have no direct effect on what we are seeing in court. >> did any of you read or create any e-mails, text messages, twitters, tweets, blogs or social networking pages about the case? >> it was just mazing social media and the role it plays. when she was on the stand today
every single thing she did, everything about her personal appearance was completely dissected, right? >> right. there was a lot of reactions to her reactions. they were spontaneous, something we normally don't see on the stand. there was a lot to be said. the question now here is what will attorneys on both sides learn from this today. remember the most important focus group they have are the six jurors sitting right there in front of them. she will be back on the stand tomorrow. you can bet the attorneys will be tweaking their game based on the reaction they have been seeing. as he said attorneys going to be tweaking and so much resting on rachel jeantel. she was supposed to be the state's star witness. today the defense did try to question her credibility and she was at times a bit nervous and confused. >> what he did instead was turn to george zimmerman and said why are you following me? >> no. >> that's the first thing you
heard, wasn't it? >> i had closed the door. >> nathalie jackson, an attorney for trayvon martin's family. i want to talk about one of the contradictions. how did rachael perform? what do you learn from this? she was there giving her side of things. she was at times mumbling, difficult to understand, appeared a little confused. was this a win for you? >> i mean, the questions -- how did she perform? from an emotional standpoint i think if you are evaluating that she didn't do well. how did she perform as far as her testimony? it was consistent with what she
said before. the only thing the defense can impeach her on was to inconsistencies with her going to the hospital and about her age. her story has remained consist and we didn't see the defense touch that today. >> that is key and an honest evaluation there. let's talk about the inconsistency. we talked about it before. rachael lied under oath about her whereabouts. she said she was in the hospital. she was not in the hospital. when they asked her why she lied she said she didn't want to see the body because she just talked to him and it was hard for her was the implication. why should the jury trust her now after a lie as significant of attending his funeral. >> reporter: because it has nothing to do with the case. a jury they are instructed that they can take what they want from her testimony. they can discount it totally or take bits and pieces of it.
i think she gave a great explanation about why she lied. she said she didn't want to face sabrina fullton. she didn't want to see the dead body. she has been harassed for a year and a half. she has been called everything but a child of god. she is 19. no she didn't testify the way that we would have liked her to. but she was real and honest. >> and one other thing i want to ask crow before we move on to her to something george zimmerman said was rachael was agitated especially during cross examination and she said trayvon had used a racial slur to describe george zimmerman to her. you said the jury can take some parts of her testimony, none or all. are you concerned about that moment? >> honestly i was when i heard
the first racial slur but when i heard the second one she characterized zimmerman with two different opposing racial slurs. she used a c-word and an n-word. for trayvon he was categorizing both of those words in a term it was somebody he didn't like, this creepy guy. the jury is going to take all of that into consideration. i don't know what they are going to do with it. when i say she is honest she was honest. when she was asked if she lied about going to the hospital she said yes. >> let me ask you about something george zimmerman did. he made nonemergency 911 calls to police before this night. this can be seen in a couple of ways as an overzealous guy who was trigger happy or a guy who was trying to do his best. i wanted to play one of the calls from august 3, 2011 for you. >> my neighborhood got robbed
today and my wife saw one of the kids that did it. and we see someone that matches the description in the neighborhood right now again. >> stand up community watchman or overzealous trigger happy watchman? >> there is a difference between being vigilant neighbor and a vigilante. and here clearly trayvon was doing nothing wrong. he was talking on the phone. we have testimony and phone records. this case would not be hard if the roles were reversed and there was a black neighborhood watch guy who killed a 17-year-old teenager no one would say this was a hard case. >> thank you. it is always good to talk to you. i appreciate your time tonight. still to come paula deen's tearful response to her critics.
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paula deen on the offense. the celebrity opened up this morning about the racial slur. deen insisted she has only used the n-word once in her life and that was years ago. she also took on critics saying she made a mistake. >> if there is anyone out there that has never said something that they wish they could take back, if you are out there please pick up that stone and throw it so hard at my head that it kills me, please, i want to meet you. i want to meet you. i is what i is and i'm not changing. >> out front tonight two of the new hosts tonight of cross fire returning this fall and a former
white house oofficial. big fans of both of you on this show and this entire network. so welcome. you are sitting with me so you get to go first. you are the woman. that's the way it works on this program. so deen trying to save her career. wal-mart and caesar's entertainment has dropped her. food network not renewing the contract. qvc says it is weighing options. anybody would be crying in that situation. was it real? >> i don't know if it is real. i am reluctant to judge the authen tisity of these people. i don't think she is doing this right. i think she has been too conciliato conciliatory. you make an apology. you say it was 30 years ago and apologize for it. being so open and so emotional about it i think has led to this
on slot of self righteous indignation. there was a great piece in "time" he said paula deen is old and paula deen is sorry. she should get her job back. if i was paula deen that is what i would say. i'm old and i'm sorry. >> she said she only used the n-word once during a robbery 30 years ago. but there was the incident in 2007bledly talking about wanting an all-black wait staff at her brother's wedding which doesn't seem to be addressed. >> the day i used that word it was a world ago. it was 30 years ago. i had had a gun put to my head because the man that had the gun to my head unbeknowing to me was
my customer at the main office. >> do you buy it? >> let me say i believe anybody can be forgiven for anything. i believe in second chances. i have had second than people i went to law school with. i believe anybody can be forgiven for anything but to be forgiven for a mistake, you have to know you made one and the problem is when you put these interviews together, you know, she's all over the place. she's not gotten good counsel, obviously, but i think it's going to be very hard for people to believe anything that she has to say in terms of the sincerity of it when at first she says i don't know if using the n-word might have been black might. that's not credible. i think we are in a age because there is so many social media, everybody will have blooper moments. i've had mine. but i think you've got to be able to say i've learned something through this and i don't think she's convinced anybody she's learned anything.
>> which is an interesting point. she's right, everybody said something that's awful or offensive -- >> everybody has -- >> without sin cast the first stone but to van's point, she's not been disciplined and dill lib rid enough about this. shorter to the point i'm sorry, it was wrong, i mean it. and then go away, stop talking about it. it's not helping. >> you were talking about forgiveness and how you would extend it to anyone so let me talk about somebody else aside from paula deen asking for forgiv forgiveness. his name would be anthony wiener. >> no, no, no. >> why not? why won't you forgive him? he didn't do it to you. you're not married to him, why do you care? >> because i'm -- at least for a few more days, a new yorker. i don't know why we constantly do this. luckily, i'm moving to d.c. for the new cross fire show, which couldn't come at a better time because frankly new york and
anthony wiener deserve each other. >> wow. >> wow. >> rewarding bad behavior. we're giving him the ultimate other shot. it's ridiculous. >> van, he is now a topping in the polls, the other two people running. i mean, that's a sign of their weakness or his strength. >> i don't know about essey. i don't think we have leadership in great aburr dance in america. we can throw it in the garbage can. essey was right early on about how he's too dumb to stay in congress. >> right. >> do we have so many people willing to serve in public life that we'll reduce them to their worst, dumbest mistake forever. >> he didn't do anything when he was a congressman. he's a nothing politician. he didn't have a great reputation. he only has name because he thinks women should swoon over his grown pictures, we're not, we're not -- >> as for me -- >> i can forgive him.
i won't vote for him and put him in a position of lead ir ship. >> if you don't like what he did in congress, that's one thing. the guy made a mistake. he had been humiliated in front of the world. his wife forgave him. >> i'm not. >> this is why i'm looking forward to the cross fire show. we have to figure out why some people are so interesting in other people's mistakes. >> van, if this were you and you had done what anthony wiener did, i don't know you yet, not saying you would, would you go and run for mayor of new york city? >> i wouldn't run for mayor of new york city, anyway. i'm not qualified and don't live there -- >> i'll vote for you before anthony wiener, though, i got to tell you that. >> that's scary. >> and his wife -- >> anthony wiener. the woman behind the man. thanks to both of you. appreciate it and of course, a really great welcome to you to
cnn. >> thank you. every night a few weeks ago we told you about the story state of america's swimming pools and water parks because every night we tell you a story outside the main story. as you look at these joyful people was how 58% of our pools contain e. coli and you know what that is and tonight we turn to the beaches. the counsel tested the 3,000 american beaches in the 30 states along america's shores and ranked them based on water quality. and unfortunately like the pools in this country, many of them contain bacteria that cause eye infections, vomiting and hepatitis. i know, it's not what you want to hear before vacation but it's our die the to tell you. we need this information. the five states with the worst beach water quality are south carolina, maine, minnesota, wisconsin and in last place ohio because those land bound lakes get fouled up.
still, there were pleasant surprises in the report. on average the five with the cleanest beaches are delaware, new hampshire, north carolina, funny next to south, hawaii and alaska. now, when you turn your attention to the best five star beaches in the country, the best of the best you'll see something that may surprise you, two beaches on the gulf coast in alabama affected by the oil spill, cleaner than almost 3,000 beaches in america, which says a lot about the cleanup efforts in alabama or the water we're swimming in. i'll stick to the beach and the deck and not to the water and never, never, ever hit the water in a water park. up front next, where your children are hanging out. the answer might surprise you. [ male ann ] the mercedes-benz summer event is here. now get the unmistakable thrill and the incredible rush of the mercedes-benz you've always wanted. ♪ [ tires screech ] but you better get here fast.
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