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trayvon martin's stepmother, the young man she calls not a stepson but a son. >> i'm the one that went to the football games. i'm the one that was there when he was sick. >> she feels she's been pushed aside in all of this, and she's telling her story tonight. our exclusive conversation just ahead. another arrest in the murder case of former nfl star aaron hernandez. details about his checkered past and the southwest bracing for extreme heat this weekend, heat that can be deadly, where and flooding elsewhere. we'll tell you what you need to know to stay safe. let's begin with the zimmerman trial and once again a prosecution witness that could
be as useful to the defense, a neighbor at the apartment complex where george zimmerman and martin struggled and martin died. a prosecution witness that might persuade the jury that martin was the aggressor. that's one key witness but not the only key witness taking the stand today. here is martin savidge with highlights. >> reporter: what jonathan good saw the night trayvon martin died goes to the heart of the zimmerman case. >> that night that you saw, the person you know to be trayvon martin was on top, correct? >> correct. >> and he was raining blows on the person on the bottom, george zimmerman, right? >> that's what it looked like. >> reporter: he was watching from his patio about 15 to 20 feet away. zimmerman that night was wearing a red and blackjack et, martin a dark hooded sweatshirt. >> the color of clothing on top, what could you see? >> it was dark. >> okay. how about the color of clothing on the bottom. >> i believe it was white or red
color. >> reporter: that's not all good says she saw. he witnessed physical blows being thrown and mix the marshall arts. >> what you saw was the person on top in an mma style straddle position, correct? >> correct. >> that was further described, was it not, as being ground and pound? >> correct. >> reporter: good also testified about one more key question, that voice screaming for help in the darkness he believes belonged to zimmerman. >> the voice screaming for help however many times that you heard it, it was just one person's joyce? >> when i heard it outside? i believe it was just one person's voice, yes. >> and you now believe that that was george zimmerman's voice, correct? >> i never said that. >> do you believe -- >> i said it could have been his but it was not 100%. >> i'm not asking for 100% certainty. i'm asking you to use your common sense and tell us if you think that was george zimmerman's voice screaming for help, the person on the bottom. >> that's just my opinion.
>> reporter: the next person to take the stand was another neighbor, jonathan manalo, who was the first person to talk to zimmerman seconds after the shooting. >> were you the first person after the shot that came into contact with anybody out there, the defendant and the victim on the ground? >> yes. >> reporter: the prosecution seemed to be focused on zimmerman's state of mind zeroing in on a phone call he made that night, a handcuffed zimmerman asked manalo to call his wife. >> i had a connection with her right away and i said your husband has been involve in a shooting. he's being handcuffed and will be held for questioning at the stanford police department and around that time, he cut me off and says just tell her i shot someone. >> did you respond to that? >> yes. >> what did you say? >> okay. well, he just shot someone. >> reporter: manalo testified zimmerman had the look of a man that had just been beaten up and even snapped this cell phone picture of zimmerman's bloody head. on cross-examination, manalo seemed to incapsulate with the entire defense, what zimmerman
told him and with the body of the teenager nearby. >> this guy was beating me up and, i shot him. >> and i had to defend myself and i shot him. >> i'm sorry? >> i was defending myself and i shot him. >> so this guy was beating me up. i was defending myself, and i shot him is what he told you? >> yes. >> without he is take. >> no. >> and from what you could tell at the moment it seemed completely true? >> yes. >> reporter: testimony later from a police officer who was one of the first responders on the scene seemed to align with zimmerman's claims. >> was his jacket pushed up in any way? >> i don't believe so. >> did you see any tears in his jacket? >> no, sir. >> what, if anything, did you notice about the condition of his jacket? >> the back of it was wetter than the front of it, and it was also covered in grass. >> martin, the last witness of the day was a physician's
assistant who treated george zimmerman's injuries the day after the shooting. she testified zimmerman was familiar with mixed marshall arts. explain that. >> reporter: lindsey full gate is that physician's assistant. much of her testimony was focused on the seriousness or lack of depending on your prospective of injuries of zimmerman. but she noted he had been training, going to the gym and listed that exercise are you teen was mixed marshall arts, and of course, if you heard the previous testimony, somebody was scene beating on somebody else using that style. so that's what the jury was left with, was this insinuation but the prosecution that maybe it wasn't necessarily what that witness saw. they might have got their people confused. >> and i think we have a -- a sound byte from some testimony about -- from her testimony about the social history that she read. i think we have that. let's play that.
>> what did you note take there in terms of social history, exercises to the defendant george zimmerman? >> that he was involved in mixed marshall arts three days per week. >> and that's the moment that marty was just talking about. marty, thanks very much. a lot to talk about with our legal team, former los angeles deputy and "killer ambition" and legal analyst and former prosecutor sonny and danny and mark, co-author of "mistrial how the criminal justice system works and sometimes doesn't". >> his testimony seems crucial for zimmerman's defense. >> right, the only explanation for that is that the prosecution knew that he was out there, that he was devastating to them, and you're not going to let the defense call that witness. you're going to try and all that witness first and minimize
whatever testimony he has, so that it doesn't look like you're playing hide the ball, because this witness clearly raises reasonable doubt. you combine this witness with the other neighbor and everything that we've heard so far, this really, really is an uphill battle for the prosecution. >> sunny, you were in the courtroom, do you agree this witness was devastating for the prosecution? >> no, i don't agree it was devastating for the prosecution and now the prosecution has an uphill battle but there is no question this witness was a significant witness for the defense. i was watching the juror's faces. they were very engaged, anderson, they were leaning forward. many of them were taking notes, and he seemed to be very credible, very consistent, very deliberate in his description of what he believed he saw. so i would agree this was a very good day for the defense. there is no question in my mind the reason the prosecution called him is because they don't want the jury to believe they are hiding anything, and as a
prosecutor, you deal with the facts that you have, and you put them out there and let the jury decide. >> shortly after the shooting, zimmerman took authorities back to the scene to recreate the events. i want to play a key moment. the jury has isn't seen this but i want to play it for the jurors. >> i kept yelling help and he put his hand on my nose -- my nose -- i mean on my mouth and said shut the [ bleep ] up. i tried squirming because when he hit my head -- i thought i would lose consciousness. so i tried to squirm so i could get -- because he only had a small portion of my head on the concrete. so i tried to squirm off the concrete, and when i did that, somebody here opened the door. and i said help me, help me. and they said i'll call 911. i said no, help me. i need help. and i don't know what they did. >> now until today, danny, it
was always a mystery who that person was that he was talking about. i want to listen what his neighbor said today in court. >> what do you recall saying to the two individuals? >> at first, it was what is going on? and no one answered. and then at that point i believe the person on the bottom, i could finally see and i heard a help, and then at some point i said, cut it out and then i'm calling 911, and that's when i thought it was getting really serious. >> so along with the police officer's testimony today that the back of zimmerman's jacket was covered in grass and more wet than the front of his jacket, to you, does that corroborate zimmerman's story? >> it does. it could serve as a grim warning for potential defendants to not give a statement. look what happened when zimmerman cooperated with the police and gave them this video that they would like to use against him if he gives any prior inconsistent statement. you hear zimmerman's story and
it today. these are two witnesses saying two different points, wet jacket, grass on the pack and part of zimmerman's story where somebody came out and observed the fight is told by this witness good who by the way is a terrific witness, not for the prosecution, not for the defense but overall he's a terrific witness. he's credible. he's well-dressed. he's articulate. he's a terrific witness. he doesn't fight with the defense attorney. he doesn't get in arguments, and
is were those injuries sufficient? are they indicative of a struggle so severe, so serious he was reasonably in fear of imminent death? and that is what the jury is going to have to parse through all of this stuff and figure out, because if he was not reasonably in fear of imminent death or great bodily injury, he did not have the right to use lethal force against martin. >> i want to put an instagram photo posted by the daughter of the defense attorney don west. now in a statement given to cnn done west said sometimes we're deeply disappointed by what our children do and move on. the photo is getting a lot of reaction online. what do you know about it sunny? >> yeah, i mean, it's -- i was getting that sent to me all day. it's been sent to me for the past couple of hours, and we know that statement came out, so we know something it was tweeted by one of don west's daughters.
he has four daughters. the daughter that tweeted this is in her 20s. he admitted it was grossly insensitive and clearly, it was. given the fact that he gave -- made that knock knock joke in opening statements that people will think my goodness, this is a family that just doesn't have their finger on the pulse of who is appropriate, hash tag dad killed it -- >> oh, gosh. >> mark, i hear you groining. >> i join in the groining motion. >> wait, give me a break. look -- >> how can you deny that was grossly insensitive. >> 20 something, i don't deny that it's grossly insensitive but can we leave the kids out of this? even the mafia -- >> the kid sent it. >> give me a break. >> the kid -- >> so what? so what. as a father of a 20 something-year-old daughter, i don't -- you know, i don't own everything she does. you try to raise a kid to do their best. she did something that i'm sure she regrets but give it a rest. it's ridiculous.
has nothing to do with anything. >> we'll move on. thanks, we'll see all of you trayvon martin that his stepmother knew. alicia stanley, she joins us tonight to talk about the young man that she helped raise from a child and still calls her son, not her stepson and whether the man that killed him was motivated by race. her opinion and answer on that. and another arrest in the killing with the nfl star aaron hernandez. in the meantime details from his past that are painting a troubling picture. details ahead. with the spark miles card from capital one,
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that's all jurors know, they don't know who zimmerman is and who martin was. alicia stanley knows martin as the child she lost and raised him since age 3 in the home she shared with his dad until they separated before the shooting. she joins us exclusively tonight. >> so i don't think a lot of people know your story and relationship with trayvon. you were his stepmother for a long, long time. >> yes, for 14 years. >> 14 -- >> 14 and a half, 14 and a half years. >> how much role did you actually have in raising him? >> hands on. i mean, i've been with his father for 14 years. trayvon was about three when i met his father, and ever since then, i mean, trayvon been in my life and i've been nothing more than a mother to him. you know, he was raised with my girls. i have two daughters, so --
>> he lived in your house? >> yes, he live in my house with me and his father and my girls, and trayvon wanted to live with us, and trayvon was at my house, in our home 85 to 95 -- 80% of the time. >> for -- what kind of a person was he? what do you want people to know about him? >> i want people to know that trayvon was a kind person. he loved people. he loved children, babies. before this happened, i really believe he would have been working with children, because he adored children, and just let people know that he's not what the media make him out to be. like he was this thug. he wasn't that. >> are you watching the trial? >> i -- i'm not watching the trial. my -- >> why? >> it's -- it's hard for me.
it -- i mean, to see and hear the things that led to his death, it's hard for me. i don't care to hear it. i don't care to hear that, i don't. >> so have you been involved in the run up to the trial at all? are you in contact with the family -- >> i -- at the beginning, you know, we had our differences and stuff like that, and it came to a point that me and tracy was communicating, but when -- tracy is trayvon's mother -- >> tracy is trayvon's father. and when the media saw it coming around, it was like he didn't want to talk to me anymore, and i asked him why, what did i do
wrong and stuff like that? he's like you've done nothing wrong. i'm just busy and stuff like that, and i would tell him well, keep me informed on, you know, what is going on with the trial and stuff like that, and somehow we -- he just -- he just didn't anymore. but at first he was, and i guess it's something i said, someone -- or i think channel 10 maybe asked me when the last time i spoke to him and did i know zimmerman was being let go or something like that and i respond to it by saying well, yes, tracy told me this, and that was it. so i don't know. he hasn't told me why he stopped communicating with me and telling me anything that was going on, so everything that i was finding out, i was finding
out on the tv or through friends. and i would call him and ask him why he's not calling me, and he said well i was busy, you know, stuff like that, so. >> right now in the last couple days in the court a friend of trayvon's has been on the stand, the young woman. >> uh-huh. >> one of the things that she's said is that in the discussions she was having with trayvon before he was killed that he talked about george zimmerman and the terms he used. >> uh-huh. >> the cracker, that the defense is trying to make it sound like trayvon martin is introducing race into -- into this -- into this situation. is that something you think is fair? >> no, it's not fair. it's because i mean, kids going to be kids, and we all been children. we've all done said things other children are saying or whatever. that was never taught in our home, and i never ever heard him use those words. >> do you have any doubt about
what happened? >> i have no doubt that he didn't start that fight. he didn't start the fight. what i'm saying is that he did -- it was a fight. there's no doubt it was a fight, and zimmerman had to put his hands on him to cause that fight. he was defending his self-so for people to say he tried to kill him and he this and he that, i don't think anyone would have been standing somewhere in the dark and been approached by someone they don't know and then pushed around, and you're not going to defend yourself, and his friend stated it in her statement. he approached trayvon and trayvon asked him, you know, why you following me? >> do you believe race was a factor in why zimmerman zeroed in on trayvon? >> i would be lying if i said
yes, so i'm going to say this, no, i really don't think it was zimmerman don't like black people, or he picked him out because he was black. did he profile him with the hoodie and stuff like that as this thug or whatever walking or whatever was in zimmerman's mind, yes, but to say that he target him because he was black, no. i don't -- i don't think so. >> and just to be clear, the complex where trayvon got killed. >> uh-huh. >> that's not where you were living with trayvon's father. >> no. >> that's where trayvon's father had gone with this other woman? >> right, uh-huh. >> is there anything else you want people to know? >> i'm here with you to let people know that i exist, and i
would not sit back anymore and take the lies that's out there being told. i'm the one that went to them football games. i'm the one that was there when he was sick. i mean, every time he got sick if he wasn't at our home, we had to go pick -- tracy picked him up and brought him back to our home to make him better. i want people to know that he wanted to live with me and his father. >> he didn't -- are you saying he didn't have much of a relationship with his biological mother? >> i'm not saying that. i'm not saying that he didn't have a relationship with her. what kind of relationship that they had, i don't know, and then with trayvon -- trayvon didn't speak of his mother a lot. okay? i didn't speak towards his mother in no way, no fashion. never want -- and i want her to know, too, that i never tried to take her place, never.
>> it's got to be so hard to -- to have raised this child, young man, to have him loose his life and to feel like all of that has been forgotten or ignored. >> yeah, yeah, it -- >> to be alone with that grief. >> yes, it was devastating to know that a child you raised, helped raise and death, you mean nothing. but when he was alive, i was his stepmother. but in death i'm not his stepmother? i don't love him because he done passed? that's unbelievable. and i couldn't believe that these people was doing this. i mean, get in where i fit in in the funeral? i can't sit in the front row, too, at my son's funeral, to see him off home? that hurts me.
that's the most painful thing that they could have done to me. >> you weren't allowed to sit in the front row? >> no, no, no, i had to sit in where i fit in, you know, to say them things to me and think it's okay, that wasn't okay. >> if george zimmerman is found not guilty? >> if he's not found guilty, it's going to be heart breaking because i truly believe that zimmerman, he killed my son, and i don't think that if zimmerman wouldn't have got out of the car, i guess you can say people saying oh, that wasn't a crime because he got out of his car, and that's true enough. it wasn't, but to take out your gun and shoot him dead like that, i mean, it would be -- it
would be unbelievable if he get off, but if he do, i can really say in my heart that god will take care of all of that. you know -- you just put it in god's hands. >> thank you for talking to us. >> you're welcome. >> well, coming up tonight, jurors see photos of george zimmerman's injuries from the night he shot trayvon martin and a physician's assistant takes the stand. and later, a third person wanted in connection with the murder case involving aaron hernandez. has been arrested. what we found out about hernandez' past. la's known definitely for its traffic, congestion, for it's smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the busses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution to the earth. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.
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the physician's assistant that treated george zimmerman the day after he shot martin was on the stand tonight talking about injuries on his nose and on the back of his head. she said wounds on zimmerman's temp could have come from his head being hit on the ground. >> consistent with it being hit on concrete, isn't it? >> it can be consistent with that, whether or not that is what it was struck on, i'm sure that can happen on multiple other surfaces, as well, but it could be consistent. >> could be consistent. joining me is dr. manning. >> you seen the pictures and heard the physician's assistant speak and heard it would be or could be consistent with someone's head striking concrete. what did these injuries tell you? >> yes, i would. these are lacerations and lacerations are injuries that are the result of blunt force, for instance, blunt force the
head striking a heard object or blunt force, maybe a baton or bat hitting the back of the head but a bursting injury and consistent with having your head hit on the concrete. >> how serious would you say the injuries appear to be? does it look like severe trama to you? >> well, it -- they are not enough to cause death, but they are serious enough that you would be frightened, certainly, anyone experiencing getting their head hit on the concrete, suffering a broken nose would certainly be afraid that more is going to come and be disoriented. >> zimmer made he was acting in self-defense and his lawyers said he was fearing bodily injury. looking at these pictures, would you say they are consistent that may have felt their life was in danger? >> well, again, this is all very subjective trying to put
ourselves in the place of mr. zimmerman, but people getting beaten on the ground, a lot of people would be afraid more harm is going to come. i would be afraid being beaten on the ground like that and being pinned down. >> he talked about feeling like his head would explode and lose consciousness, would you be disoriented? maybe you can't say this. can you say whether or not you would be disoriented after receiving these kind of injuries? would you be thinking clearly or is it impossible to say? >> well, you get into a fight or flight mechanism. your nose is broken. your nose hurts. the back of your head hurts. you're being pinned down by someone so yeah, you're not thinking clearly and thinking is more going to happen? am i going to be beaten more. >> you looked at, i understand, the autopsy of trayvon martin. would you say his injuries are consistent with the story zimmerman is telling, that i shot up at martin or can you not tell?
>> well, the projectile itself, the direction of it was straight up just to the left of the midline and penetrated the heart, which caused death. i wish the bullet had gone to the right and just injured the lungs, mr. martin would have survived that, but the wound to the heart is consistent, i believe, it's consistent with what mr. zimmerman is saying. i think there will probably be video type of recreation that we'll see and actors will more accurately pro tray. there is no upward or downward trajectory with that belt. >> thank you very much. >> my pleasure. we'll also have more of this on our 10:00 hour, full hour of the trial today. you thought this beach couldn't get any more tempting...
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so this guy in florida, susan, what do we know about him? >> reporter: we know his name is earnest wallace and they are not charging him yet directly in connection with the lloyd's murder, but we learned that he turned himself in after seeing himself on a wanted poster. he was all over the news since late last night. walked into the police department in florida where he lives and said here i am. i'm not going to talk but want a lawyer present. so they are in the process of extraditing him to massachusetts. there is a second man, carlos ortiz and he was in court today here in massachusetts picked up on a fugitive charge. he was in connecticut. now right now, they have only put up a weapons charge on him, but we have court documents that state that he allegedly acknowledged to police that he had a gun with him in north attleborough here when odin lloyd was murdered. now these are the two men that
prosecutors say aaron hernandez got together to him him settle the score, allegedly, by killing odin. hernandez as we know has pleaded not guilty to this. >> it seems they have a lot of information what was said on the night odin was killed. how do they know that? >> it seems obvious if they know actual conversations that they have talked about in court, about what was being said in the court with odin lloyd, there is only three people that would have known it, aaron hernandez and these two men police say were in the car that night. so it would seem as though one of them may be cooperating with authorities. we were only able to talk with the lawyer for carlos ortiz, and he had no comment when we asked about that. >> we're also learning more about a possible connection between hernandez, odin lloyd and an unsolved murder near boston last summer.
>> reporter: right, we talked with you about that last night. my sources are saying boston police department is very active in making progress in trying to establish a link between that unsolved double-murder and aaron hernandez. the boston globe is reporting unnamed officials saying the motive for lloyd's murder might have had to do with the fact that lloyd might have known something able this possibility link. hernandez found out about it and decided to allegedly take him out. >> all right. thanks for the update. the murder charge against hernandez raises questions about his past, a past ranging from drug use to possible gang involvement. randy kay investigates. >> reporter: when he signed the 5-year 40 million dollar contract with the new england patriots, he told reporters it was probably one of the best days of his life. >> it's a life-long dream and still kind of surreal but take
it over the next few weeks, months, years and it's a blessing and hopefully, i might the right decisions with it and have a good life. >> reporter: now those decisions are under scrutiny. even those he made early on. in 2007 he enrolled at the university of florida. as a junior in 2009, hernandez won the john mckee award given annually to the nation's best tight end. his future was bright, so bright he decided to skip his senior year and enter the nfl draft, but come draft time his history started to catch up with him. word spread hernandez used marijuana while playing with the florida gators and fell to the fourth round in the 2010 draft. were drugs a sign of trouble ahead? >> the only, you know, serious red flag was that he, you know, he smoked marijuana in college,
which is not the most damming accusations and certainly, if smoking marijuana in college makes you a murderer, a lot of us would be cold-blooded killers. >> reporter: it wasn't just drug use that raised concerns but possible gang involvement that forced many teams to keep hernandez off the bored for the draft. in sports illustrated one teammate described his circle of friends as a quote thug life but not even that kept the patriots away. >> there was no inkling of other activities that were dangerous and bad. he was a young guy with a lot of tattoos but considered part of the culture and part of his growing up. >> reporter: hernandez' star rose quickly. in the second nfl game he became the youngest player since 1960 to top 100 receiving yards in a game. hernandez was named to the pro bowl, then last year, that $40 million contract plus a $12.5 million signing bonus, life was
good until now. ten months after celebrating that big contract, aaron hernandez' past once again is catching up with him with the murder charge and a possible connection to a double homicide. and there's more, in mid june an acquaintance of his alleged hernandez shot him when his gun discharged causing the man to lose one eye. it said the shooting occurred in july. the lawsuit was dropped four days later. it's unclear why. but hernandez' alleged involvement in that miami shooting while a patriot, raised questions about the team's background checks and scrutiny of it's players. if hernandez is guilty of various transgressions, how was he able to keep his behavior under the radar? >> they run the team like the pentagon. everything is well-thought out. well-researched, double checked.
that's what is so amazing about the fact this guy was able to make fools out of them on their watch. >> reporter: just 23 and a multi millionaire now on the hook for murder. randi kaye cnn atlanta. a dangerous heat wave will roast a big chunk of the southwest. where it will be hottest and what you need to know to stay safe. the great outdoors, and a great deal. grrrr
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we'll likely see the records tumbling in salt lake, las vegas, phoenix, death valley where we could see the 100-year record come crashing down. the reason the upper levels of the atmosphere causing the air to sink and warms as it sinks and we see this incredibly high temperature. you can see in the satellite picture, big ridge of high pressure and this pattern to me is looking rather monsoon. it's not monsoon yet but seasonable reversal of winds and high pressure builds in and picks up moisture. as it comes across the gulf of mexico and california and we see the explosive thunderstorms and a lot of rain across the southwest, that will bring an end finally to the heat wave and all part of the extreme pattern that stretches across the nation, excessive heat in the west and excessive moisture in the east, anderson. >> and as you mentioned, in the east, new york, parts of pennsylvania, they have already faced flooding.
you say we're likely to see more flood warnings on the east coast. >> with all the rain, 4 to 6 inches in pennsylvania and there you see how folks are coping with the flood waters across much of the ohio valley and in through the northeast and guess what? even after this front passes through, we're likely to see more rain across the northeast throughout the weekend. so the flooding concerns are not over yet. they tuned. >> all right. samantha, thanks very much. a lot more happening tonight. susan hendrix has the 360 bulletin. anderson, a short time ago two of the plaintiffs that challenged california's ban on same-sex marriage were married at city hall. they exchanged vows two days after the supreme court ruling that killed prop 8 and a federal appeals court cleared the way for county clerks in california to resume issuing marriage licenses to same sex couples. president obama is in south africa, the second stop of the week-long trip to africa.
mr. obama has said he'll leave it up to nelson mandela's family to decide if the icon is up for a visit from him. his i ten rarely concerns a visit to where he was in 2006. oscar returns to the running track for the first time since he killed his girlfriend. in a statement his family said they encourage the double amputee sprinter to resume training for his emotional health as he prepares for his murder trial. and alec baldwin a string of profanity laced tweets he blast add journalist who claimed the actor's wife was tweeting during james gandolfini's funeral. he denied it. "the ridiculist" is next. w is something we all share. but who can help you find your own path? who n build you a plan,
look at the captain here. do you notice anything wrong? very, very wrong. >> missing a finger. >> let's do a close up here. according to u.s. navy, three straps indicate the ranking of a commander which captain crutch has, that's lower than a captain, which you see on the left there. that's four stripes. calling himself a captain and he's a commander. >> commander crunch doesn't have the same ring. >> next thing you'll tell me count dracula isn't a real count, cheer owes aren't cheer owes. the scandal doesn't end here because cap'n crunch has responded. he called a press conference. ♪ >> i stand before you today to answer the ridiculous acquisitions levelled against me by co-host rivals that i cap'n crunch are not a real captain.
you may have noticed a few other things about me. i have four fingers. my first mate is a dog. my eyebrows are attached to my hat for crunch sake. >> i come to think that i never noticed his eyebrows are on his hat, which is troubling but he sidestepped the question and john was certainly impressed. >> first, let me profess my satisfaction we were able to help shine the light on this. >> are you kidding, john? >> a response from cap'n crunch but let me say how impressed i am about his ability to inflict the deflection. lance armstrong, the irs, how to handle it. >> there is a breakfast mafia, tony the tiger, tell me those aren't mob names. i won't rest until drew griffin sits down with snap, crackle and especially pop. we'll get down to the bottom line on cereal "the ridiculist."
>> good evening, welcome to tonight's "ac 360" special report. tonight, two key witnesses tell what happened during and immediately after trayvon martin's deadly encounter with george zimmerman. one neighbor saw their struggle up close and provided testimony. was zimmerman or martin the aggressor. i'll speak with trayvon martin's stepmother. she says she lost a child she raised, the young man she calls not just a stepson but a son. >> i'm the one that took him to the football games. i'm the one that was there when he was sick. >> we'll hear more from her shortly. first, martin savidge.