tv New Day Sunday CNN July 7, 2013 3:00am-6:01am PDT
well, ten >> ten minutes of calm end in horror. and that's where we begin this "new day sunday," live from san francisco on the crash of flight 214. >> the back end was hit and flies up in the air and everybody's head goes up to the ceiling. >> while the crash was fatal, it seems a miracle that more didn't die. you'll hear one survivor's terrifying story. >> and as more images and more answers emerge, there's still the question, who's responsible? a former transportation chief says she has the answer. good morning, everyone. thank you for joining us. i'm pamela brown. >> i'm victor blackwell. 6:00 on the east coast, 3:00 in
san francisco. thanks for starting this "new day" with us. >> and we start our special coverage in san francisco, where an asiana airlines flight bounced down the runway and burst into flames. at least two people are dead and nearly 200 injured. >> some bumps and bruises, but others are critically injured, some people with spinal injuries and there's a huge range in that category. there's one child from that flight that was in critical condition, still in critical condition. miguel marquez joins us live from the san francisco international airport. miguel, good morning. what do we know? >> reporter: yeah, good morning. the ceo of asiana airlines saying it was not engine failure for this plane, leaving the obvious, that perhaps there was human error that happened here. we also know that some of those survivors were found in the water of this accident, and the
flight crew on this plane actually asked some of the emergency responders for knives so they could cut people loose from their seats. 11:34 a.m., asiana flight 214 had been in the air just over ten hours. passengers report the pilot increased engine power seconds before crashing. >> seemed like we were a little bit high, and, like, we could see the tarmac down below us, so we were coming down kind of sharp. and then right when it started to coast, like for the landing, all of a sudden, the engine was off, like he sped up, like the pilot knew he was short. >> reporter: the plane's tail struck the sea wall at the very start of the runway 28 left. the tail disintegrated, the engine disappeared, whipping sideways across the runway. witnesses report hearing an explosion, then a large fireball. the plane's fuselage, mostly intact, finally came to a start. the right engine next to the
fuselage smoking. >> the back end was hit and flies up in the air and everybody's head goes up to the ceiling. and then it just kind of drifted for a little bit probably for a good 300 yards, then tips over, fire starts. everybody's pushing the doors out. >> reporter: from the violent landing, passengers started to emerge. on this video shot by a witness in the terminal, you can see the plane's emergency chutes deployed and people using them to get off the plane. and in this video from passenger david yoon, a samsung executive, it shows people, some of them even holding on to their bags as they staggered from the plane. his tweet shocking as the incident itself -- just crash landed at sfo. tail ripped off. everyone seems fine. i'm okay. surre surreal." witnesses shocked that anybody survived. >> pancaked immediately. then it kept sliding and sliding and finally stopped. you could see how the fuselage
kept buckling many times. i'm surprised it didn't come apart altogether. and it was unreal. >> reporter: helicopter pictures show the trail of destruction, the impact on the stone embankment at the runway's beginning. one set of landing gear, wheels, the plane stabilizers, the very tip of the tail, debris from the plane littering the runway. officials say there was no sign of trouble before the plane crashed. the weather ideal, a clear day. all traffic using visual flight rules to land. >> 214 out of san francisco. >> air traffic controllers can be heard guiding in asiana 214 and then you can hear others in the room alerting to the crash and the stress in the voice of the air traffic controller as the emergency unfolds. [ inaudible ] >> air traffic controllers continue talking to the pilot of the now crashed asiana 214, assuring the pilot that emergency personnel are responding.
>> asiana 214, heavy emergency vehicles are responding. we have everyone on their way. >> reporter: passenger elliott stone says some of the injured were thrown from the plane. >> 20 minutes later, this lady just appears from like 500 yards away, just like crippled, just walking. so, we start running over, and there's like another five bodies that were like 500 yards away that nobody saw. and so, we were running over there, calling the ambulance and stuff. but the ambulances took like 20, 30 minutes to get there. it was pretty ridiculous. >> reporter: despite the clear day, pilots say landing at san francisco international can be tricky. this google earth image shows the final approach, runway 28 left and right close to each other. the runway starting right at the water's edge. now, the asiana ceo also cnn that there was no emergency indication given to passengers before that plane landed confirming what we believe, that
passengers knew nothing before that plane crashed. the national transportation safety board investigators are on the ground and a team, an investigative team from seoul are also on their way here. back to you guys. >> all right. miguel marquez, thank you so much. and we have heard that even though passengers weren't warned of something happening, they had a hunch. we've heard several passengers say they had a hunch something wasn't right upon landing. >> chaos, then quiet, and then that rush out of the plane. >> well, flight 214 was one of boeing's 777 model jets. the aircraft manufacturer released a statement, saying "boeing extends its deepest condolences to the families and friends of those who perished in the asiana airlines flight 214 accident in san francisco as well as its wishes for the recovery of those injured. boeing will join the u.s. national transportation safety board at their request to provide technical assistance to their investigation." and speaking of, the go team for the ntsb has now arrived on the scene of the crash. their official twitter account
sent out this image early this morning. take a look. you can see investigator outside of the plane examining what remains, but it's what this other picture shows inside the plane what's so striking. you can get a closer look inside the charted plane. as you can see in the back right where the twitter sign is, you can see those oxygen masks deployed and the rows of seating thrown about inside that plane. tough to see, but if you look up close -- >> if we can keep this picture up. so many of us fly for jobs or travel. this is the summer travel season. you're inside that plane and you kind of listen to the instructions, but this is what happens when those are important. the plane goes dark. those seats -- i don't know if you can see on your television -- are kind of slammed over. as pamela said, the masks have fallen, the overhead luggage has fallen, there's smoke, there's fire. that is the worst nightmare of anyone who flies, but imagine being in this. and 305 of the 307 leave with their lives. of course, we know this morning
that, unfortunately, two chinese women did die, but -- >> but it's amazing when you look at this that there weren't more fatalities and more injuries. >> yes. >> and san francisco general hospital is the only level one trauma center in the city and they've been inundated with injured patients. >> right after the crash, the staff pitched tents outside of the e.r. to handle this huge rush of patients. and that's where cnn's sara sidner is, right outside the hospital. what do we know about the number of patients and their injuries there at that hospital, sara? >> reporter: well, we know that there were 26 children and 27 adults who have been treated here at san francisco general. we know there were 45 patients treated at stanford medical center, which is another level one trauma center, which is about 45 minutes south of here. and so, we know 52 patients here, 45 there, a total of 182 patients that have been taken to 11 bay area hospitals. we can tell you about some of
the injuries because the hospital spokesman came out several hours ago and just talked about some of the injuries that they have been treating. many of them are, you know, cuts and bruises, but also broken bones, spinal injuries, so we're talking very serious injuries. and then we know that six people have been in critical condition. they're also dealing with internal injuries, very dangerous as well. and so, we're waiting to find out just exactly how many patients are still inside. we know that six have been released from san francisco general and six are in critical condition. i want to let you listen to one of the passengers who survived this -- >> all right, so clearly, we're having some problems with sara's shot, but we do know, again, as she said, 52 people at that hospital, 26 of them children. >> unbelievable. and one in critical condition. and as she said, there is a range of injuries from very serious injuries like spinal cord injuries to bumps and
bruises. >> and especially with these children, you know. some of the injuries you can see. some of the injuries you can repair with some medication or an ointment or surgery, but when you're that young, there are probably some psychological injuries as well. >> emotional scars. >> we won't be able to see just yet, but we'll try to get back to sara at san francisco general hospital. >> and flight 214 originated in shanghai before stopping in seoul, korea, the home base for asiana airlines. from there, a scheduled nonstop flight to san francisco. >> diana is in san francisco. what do we know from the officials there, either from the government or asiana airlines? >> reporter: well, asiana airlines, the ceo has given a press conference talking about what he knows. he says he doesn't think this was engine failure. this was one of their newer planes bought in 2006, this 777, and obviously, we've heard also from transport officials here that it would be easy to locate
the black box, seeing as this plane crashed on the runway, but it may take as long as two years to actually fathom out what the cause is, and there are a team of korean investigators on route to san francisco right now to help the ntsb in their investigation. the ceo really just an abject apology to the people involved. let's just take a listen to what he said. >> translator: i am very sorry to worry families of passengers as well as our people. i bow my head in apology. >> reporter: he said that the pilots were extremely experienced. the lead pilot who was flying at the time was a veteran pilot of asiana. he had been with the company since 1996, had around 10,000 flight hours, and some more details about those two teenaged chinese girls who lost their lives in this accident. >> so sad.
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15 minutes after the hour now as we continue our special coverage of the crash landing of flight 214. ntsb go teams have been on the ground in san francisco for about six hours now, and they'll be joined by the south korean investigators and officials from asiana airlines and boeing. now, terrorism does not appear to be the cause of yesterday's crash. but besides that, the ntsb chief says everything is on the table. >> joining us now via skype from
charlotte, north carolina, is mary schiavo, a former inspector general for the federal department of transportation and an aviation attorney who represents crash victims and their families. mary, thank you for being here with us. we heard from asiana's ceo. he says he doesn't think this was engine failure, and this corroborates with what you think. as you've made clear, you think the pilot is to blame, is that right? >> well, the pilot and the instrumentation or lack thereof. we have a lot of clues in this accident. we'll get them from the black boxes, the cockpit voice recorder, the flight data recorder, but also from the absence of some instrumentation. now, on this particular runway -- and of course, it was notice to all pilots, there was no instrument landing system, and that would have also meant that they didn't have accurate glide slope information. and then there are visual lights that help called the vasi lights, the visual slope indicators, that weren't
available either. but on a clear day, they were given clearance to land, which isn't a problem. but if you're used to having all the instrumentation, sometimes that can catch pilots off guard. doing a full visual without the major instrumentations at major airports around the country. >> what will they want to know from the four pilots assigned? what are the questions they're asking these pilots? >> well, they'll really just go from "a" to "z" on the flight. you know, what did you learn in your prebriefing before the flight? when the crews changed, what were the briefings, when did you get the updates? when did you check the available instrumentation-equipment at sfo? when did you start the approach? were you doing like a 12-mile straight in to the runway or did you turn in from the parallel approach to the runway to make a straight-on approach? they'll want to know exactly the whole sequence of the flight. and then, the most crucial question will be, when was additional power applied?
eyewitnesses and air witnesses said it looked like the plane had come and touched down, and then the engines were revved up, more power was given to the plane. or did that happen before the plane impacted the sea wall at sfo? those are all critical questions which will make the difference as to the judgment the ntsb will apply to the pilots' skill and performance. >> mary, aviation experts are saying that the boeing 777 actually has a pretty good safety record, but there has been one memorable crash with the boeing 777, at london heathrow airport involving a british airways boeing 777. it also happened upon landing. but how is this crash different from that crash? >> well, in that crash, icing was indicated. the weather was such, it had been a long flight in cold weather, and they attribute that one to icing having built up. there was a problem with icing in the fuel and it affected the engines. here it was a beautiful day in san francisco and there's no indication of icing. and another clue comes from those eyewitnesses and
earwitnesses, very valuable, because they heard the engines increase. if the pilots were losing power, had lost power because of some kind of engine failure, it would have sounded differently. they would be losing the engine, not getting engine power. so once again, those witnesses are very important. >> all right, mary schiavo, thank you so much for offering your expertise on this. >> thank you. >> just amazing details as we learn what went on inside that plane. up next, we're going to hear from the daughter of one of the survivors who will tell us how a hero stepped up during the chaos to save their fellow passengers. that's right after this break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
23 minutes after the hour now. you know, we've been hearing so many amazing stories about what happened on that plane inside the cabin on this airborne asiana flight 214. earlier this morning, we spoke with bird rock. >> her father, anthony, was actually on that plane. he is now safe at home with family, but you can imagine what that must have been like when she learned her father was there. listen to her describe the scene and how some of the heroes on that plane jumped into action after the crash. >> it was a flight attendant who was stuck. you knoew the inflatable slide that comes out of the emergency doors, it had actually inflated inside the plane, and she was in her seat with the seat belt on,
and it blew up, i mean, inflated right in front of her. and once it crashed, he said that he saw her leg just kind of hanging midair, and she was moving it, trying to cry for help and she was trying to cry for help, but obviously, she couldn't even breathe because it was just inflated in front of her. and so, my father, another gentleman, and actually, her husband was also on that flight, they tried to free her and they couldn't deflate it, obviously, because there's no sharp objects allowed on the plane. but eventually, a gentleman was able to move it and free her. so, she's at the hospital right now. but you know, he said it was just very surreal. everyone was very calm and that the flight attendants were very calm and very professional to escort everybody out. >> take us back to that moment when this plane is on the
ground, it's burning and your father's telling you the story of what he's seeing and the people around. you mentioned one woman and her leg. what else did he see, these rescues, the people, the other injuries? >> he did mention that there were some heroes that he definitely wanted to praise, including one flight attendant. she was a woman and she was very -- her build was very small, but he said that she was helping men twice her size get out of the plane and that she was very calm and very cooperative with all of the passengers on board and he really praised her for being so brave and so courageous and he's been trying to get in contact with her, you know. and he also said the other passengers themselves were very cooperative when they were trying to assist the flight attendant who was trapped. so, everybody was just kind of helping each other, which is a relief in a situation like that. >> amazing to hear that.
you look at that plane and you think, gosh, you would think the first instinct is i'm going to run off of this, i'm going to try to get off of here as quickly as i can, but as bird said, so many of the passengers jumped in to help others before they helped themselves, essentially, and stayed calm throughout it all. >> and we see the pictures and it is amazing that people were able to walk away from this situation. we're going to tell you why one survivor says one of the biggest struggles getting out of the wreckage was the language barrier. >> plus, getting back on a plane after a crash. we'll talk to an airline expert who once lived through a crash herself. and walmart's super summer savings event is here. this 5-piece dining set on clearance, save over $49! how bout all these bikes on rollback? like this mongoose adult bike, you save over $20! get more summer for your money at walmart's super summer savings event. [ male announcer ] you wait all year for summer. ♪
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good morning of the hour now. welcome back, everyone. nice to have you with us on this sunday morning. i'm pamela brown. >> i'm victor blackwell. this morning's top story, the crash of asiana flight 214 at san francisco international airport. the national transportation safety board's go team is now on site investigating the accident. they sent out these pictures this morning. for now, the death toll stands at two. both women were carrying chinese passports. witnesses to the crash reported seeing the tail of the plane -- look at this animation -- clip there the edge of the sea wall at the runway like in this animation. and then you see the plane spin around with the plane's belly sliding along the tarmac before it then burst into flames. >> survivors say the ten-hour flight across the pacific was calm for the entire flight and
then turned to chaos in the final seconds. more than 180 survivors were taken to the hospital. cnn's karin caifa has the latest. >> reporter: harrowing accounts from survivors of asiana flight 214 after a crash landing at san francisco international airport. >> the moment it touched the runway, there was bang. >> we thought maybe we would go back up for it, so i'm flying again, trying to improvise another landing, but we went back down again. so as i said, felt like slow motion. >> all of a sudden, the engine was all, like he sped up, like the pilot knew he was short? >> reporter: instead of a routine landing, an impact that resulted in smoke and flames. >> asiana 214 heavy san francisco tower. [ inaudible ] >> asiana 214 heavy, emergency vehicles are responding. we have everyone on their way. >> reporter: the boeing 777 was on the end of its flight.
all passengers have been accounted for. >> it is incredible that we have, and very lucky, that we have so many survivors. >> reporter: nine bay area hospitals treated 182 passengers and crew. by saturday evening, some were headed home, others still being treated for burns, bruises, fractures and other trauma. >> some of them are in smohock, some are very tearful, some look stunned. >> reporter: the investigation continues. in addition to an ntsb team from the nation's capital, south korea will also send representatives to san francisco. u.s. officials said there were no signs of terrorism. in washington, i'm karin caifa. >> passenger ben levy knew something was wrong when the asiana flight 214 was coming in for a landing. he recalled how the ordinary flight turned quickly to chaos and then calm as the passengers tried to help one another escape the plane.
>> it sounded like we're about to land. the nose of the plane, as you know, goes up a little bit. and then we full throttle started hitting hard, and then we felt like we were going up again. so, that's why i said i felt like we were -- it was almost missed landing and come back up and it didn't happen. we just crashed back. so, as i said, if we flipped, none of us would be here to talk about it. it's like a six flags show, right? you're tied up to your chair, and then, again, we're skipping on the runway and i felt like we were going back up. i thought maybe we would go back up and start flying again, trying to improvise another landing, but we went back down again. so, as i said it felt like slow motion. i was still tight to my chair until i unbuckled, but the whole row was completely crushed on the chairs behind. it was chaos. you know, first of all, there was a lot of koreans that might not speak english that well, but yes, it was disbelief, screaming, a bit of chaos, but i
think we managed everybody to calm down pretty quickly and really started getting out and not pushing each other, stepping on each other, and so, it felt like it went pretty fast. >> many of those passengers on the plane took to social media right after the crash, really giving us the first reports that something had gone wrong on that plane. >> yeah, listen to how one passenger on board the jet described the scene. and you'll actually see the passengers trying to get away from the plane before even the ambulances arrived. >> we just crash landed on my flight from seoul to sfo. the plane hit the runway really hard on the landing and we skidded to the side. i thought we were going to flip over. everyone seems to be okay but is shaken up. i don't have shoes on and hit my head pretty hard, but i think i'm okay. as much as i fly, don't think about this stuff happening.
anyway, everyone seems to be okay but shaken up. wow. >> you look at that video and we know two passengers lost their lives in this crash. as the san francisco mayor said, this could have been much worse. >> just looking at the video of smoke and fire after the crash, some feared for the worst for the other souls in the sky until it was confirmed that, in fact, 305 other passengers managed to survive, some, of course, with very serious injuries. nancy stortz is the former chairman of the consumer product commission. nancy, thank you for being here. you actually survived an american airlines crash back in the '70s. if there's one thing we can all take away from a tragic incident like this, it is not to ignore the flight safety briefings at start of each flight we take. but nancy, first off, how do you get back on a plane after going through a crash? i can't imagine how much that would rattle you. >> well, it was very difficult. it actually took me three attempts after i did go through that crash. the first one, i got to the door
and left. the second one, i got on the plane and then made them stop the plane before they took off. and the third one, i said to the stewardess, do not let me off this plane. i have too much to do, i travel all over the world and i must get back into the air, which i did. >> can you take us to that moment when you know that this is more than just an indelicate landing on the runway, you know that this could be catastrophic? and give us an idea of what was going through the minds of the people on 214. >> well, what happened was that we were coming down, we passed the washington monument, and i said, i hear something, it doesn't sound right. and the landing gears were not coming down. first they said we're going to go through the tower to make sure that it's not just the indicator light. they went by the tower, and they said, no, the gears were not coming down. they then started pulling up the
first class carpeting and going down to see if they could hand ke them down. that didn't work either. so, what went on in our minds, what went on in my mind was that the seat that i was in and nancy stoerts was going to get down that that ground safely. so, i went into a very calm situation. i tried to keep the lady next to me very calm. she was an elderly woman. and we then listened carefully to the crew who were incredible. they told us absolutely what we were going to do. they took off -- they came with these big, black bags and we had to take everything off except a skirt and a blouse and our jewelry, everything, and then we went into survival mode. and it was incredible crew. we knew what we were doing, but the most important thing was we had to know how to exit that plane. listen carefully to where that exit was going to be, look for
another exit in case the plane was going to be on fire, which the pilot said it could be and then went into that mode that we were getting down, we were getting down safely, and there was no panic. and i just heard on this plane that just went down in san francisco there was no panic, because you have to survive. >> yeah, we're hearing very similar stories of not only flight attendants, but also the passengers really being heroes in those chaotic moments. and nancy, through your experience, you actually have some safety recommendations for passengers. can you tell us what some of those recommendations are? >> yes. one thing, be very sure that on every plane that you go on that you listen very carefully to what the steward or stewardess is telling you as far as survival. number two, if you have the choice, sit on an aisle near an exit, because this way, you're able to get out without anybody impeding your progress. number three, if possible, wear natural fibers, because if
you're wearing synthetics, they can burn much more quickly. and number four, if you're going into a survival mode, be very calm, meditate, pray, and also, help another passenger. that's very, very critical. >> all right. safety expert nancy stoerts, thank you so much for your insight, having survived a crash yourself. >> you're welcome. >> you know, as nancy said, there's that moment of the chaos of something is wrong and then calm. and then we are going to get out of this plane. and we saw that -- >> that determination that will. >> yes. she said nancy stoerts and this seat were going to get on the ground safely. >> incredible to hear her perspective. edward snowden is a man without a country. the u.s. wants him back, but will a latin american rival get him first? the latest twists in the nsa leaker saga, up next.
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17 minutes before the top of the hour. we're going to have much more for you on this deadly plane crash in san francisco, but there are other big stories that we're following. one of them, the confessed nsa leaker edward snowden, he may have a new country to call home. >> three latin american nations are indicating they would welcome him with open arms. we begin with frederik pleitgen. yesterday there were two countries offering snowden asylum.
now there's a third. tell us about that. >> reporter: the t i livia and the bolivian president, evo morales, says the reason he's offering edward snowden asylum in his country is to protest the fact that his plane when it returned from a conference last week in russia had to land in austria because several european countries didn't allow him to cross their air space because they thought morales was harboring snowden on board. so, that's the third country that is now offering him asylum, but it still seems as though, pamela, venezuela is the best option. certainly, that's what the russians think. a high member of the russian parliament came out with a tweet a little earlier today saying that he believes snowden should take asylum in venezuela, and this might be his last chance to get political asylum anywhere. so, certainly, the russians are looking for him to leave the country as fast as possible. we're not sure whether or not he'll take up that offer. so far, the venezuelans say they are still waiting for an answer and will wait until tomorrow.
>> last hour you left with us a little nugget that there was a flight leaving moscow heading for cuba, boarding at that time. any sign of snowden being on that flight? >> reporter: yeah, we had our man at the airport who was telling us they just started boarding when we were live last hour. it doesn't appear snowden was on the plane. certainly, the person we have at the airport saying he did not see snowden at the plane. also, they talked to some passengers who were boarding the plane as well who were going to keep a lookout. it does not appear as if edward snowden boarded the plane. and also, there don't appear to have been any cars, any diplomatic cars or anything that went to the plane afterwards. of course, that whole thing about the cuba flight is one that is quite dicey. there's one flight a day that goes from moscow to cuba. we believe that if he's going to take a commercial flight, it would be that one, because it would be the only way for him to go to venezuela that way because there are no direct flights to venezuela. normally, the route of that flight actually goes through u.s. air space. they fly along the eastern
seaboard. it would be interesting to see whether that flight would be diverted, if, in fact, edward snowden were on the plane. we said last hour as well, evo morales's flight was grounded. it's a whole different thing to try and stop a russian jetliner from crossing your air space. >> absolutely. a big unknown there. frederik pleitgen in moscow for us, thank you so much. right now, we have a cnn senior and international correspondent, matthew chance, live in caracas with the latest on venezuela's offer of asylum. >> hey, matthew, the government's offering snowden asylum there, offering him a home, but is there a response? i mean, what's the level of communication between the venezuelan government and edward snowden? >> reporter: it doesn't seem to be very great at this moment. in fact, the foreign minister of venezuela has come out and said, look, we haven't even spoken to edward snowden yet. we're going to do that on monday, about whether he actually wants to come to venezuela for asylum. so, the expectation has moved somewhat. he's obviously not going to be
boarding a flight until he's at least consulted with the venezuelan government about whether or not he actually wants to go to the country, although his options are narrowing pretty much, so it's difficult to see how he's going to say no to that. but yeah, the expectation is that the venezuelan government are going to be speaking to him on monday, as i say, and discussing with him how he's going to get out of the country, because it's going to be very difficult practically for him to get to venezuela from the transit terminal of moscow. it's not clear whether the venezuelans will give him a travel document. without a travel document, he's not going to be able to get on a plane. and it's not clear, either, that european governments won't act, as they did with the plane of evo morales, the bolivian president, and ask the plane carrying edward snowden to land or refuse it to fly across their air space. so, the practical difficulties for edward snowden to get to venezuela from moscow are going to be very difficult, indeed. >> in light of that, you wonder how realistic these offers are. is it a way for these three countries just to make a statement, make a point to the
u.s., given their contentious relationships with america or are they really serious about offering snowden asylum? >> reporter: well, i think that they're seriously angry, for instance, about the forcing of evo morales's plane to land in vienna. they're angry with the fact that it was searched. they see that as a national insult, an insult to the continent of south america, but here's my take, and i've spoken to a lot of venezuelans since i've gotten here. the general feeling is the last thing the venezuelan president wants is for snowed dwroen actually come here. he wants to be able to talk the talk of fighting what he calls u.s. imperialism, but it's going to be very difficult for him to do that. the country's in a dire economic mess, inflation is running at 35%, it's got massive product shortages, everything from chicken to pilot patoilet paper. what they want is a better relationship with the united states. over the course of the last month, the government has been reaching out to the united states to forge a better relationship. this is obviously going to derail that process if snowden
comes here. >> also hurt their economy, hurt trade. there would be a big ripple effect from that. matthew chance, thank you very much. >> speaking of relationships with the u.s., strong u.s. ally egypt is bracing for another big day of protests. >> yeah, a lot of people there not happy with how the military ousted the country's first dramatically elected president. i'm going to bring in cnn's reza sayah in cairo. reza, rival protest effort today, is that right? >> reporter: that's correct, pamela. one of the things, one of the outcomes of the 2011 revolution is that egyptians have learned to protest and demonstrate. they're very good at it. we're expecting more demonstrations and protests today on both camps. you have one side that's very happy, that's celebrating. these are the anti-morsi demonstrators who are thrilled that he and his government are gone and egypt is on its way to transitional leadership and then a new leadership. then you have the other camp that's outraged. they feel they've been robbed of the democratic process. these are supporters of the
ousted president, mohamed morsi, supporters of the muslim brotherhood and elements within that particular group who say we just support the democratic process and we believe that democratic process was violated last week when the former president was ousted. they are planning demonstrations in several areas in cairo, including in front of the headquarters of the presidential guard, where there are reports that mr. morsi is being held in custody. not to be outdone, the supporters of this new transitional government, the people who are happy, they're planning their own demonstrations behind us in tahrir square and elsewhere in this conflict, these rival demonstrations that go on and on. at this point, no end in sight. >> reza sayah in cairo, stay safe. thank you. coming up, dramatic images of that jumbo jet in ruins. the people who witnessed the san francisco plane crash first hand take to social media to share what they saw.
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you know, some of the most remarkable images we're getting in the aftermath of the crash come from social media. a photograph posted to twitter by david eun. it shows what appears to be passengers walking off the plane with their carry-ons, their bags. smoke, as you see, already rising from that plane. he writes "i just crash landed at sfo. tail ripped off. most everyone seems fine. i'm okay." then he ends it with one word, "surreal." >> in his twitter feed, he was giving a play-by-play after the crash. interesting perspective from those on the plane and those watching the plane. within moments, fire crews were on the scene dousing the fuselage with water and foam. anthony kasterani, who witnessed the landing from a nearby hotel, says he witnessed the plane hit the ground and noticed a plume of white smoke. he told cnn he saw a large,
brief fireball that came from underneath that aircraft. >> we have a picture from cnn ireporter timothy clark. he was at a hotel nearby. he heard a loud crash and then he told cnn, this is very unnerving. why? because i have a long flight home on monday. >> a lot of people feeling that way. i have to hop on a flight today. i'm not too excited about it. when you see the images of flight 214 on the ground in san francisco it seems incredible. we've been talking all morning about how incredible it is that so many of the passengers and crew were able to survive this tragedy. ahead, we'll talk with a former ntsb top official about why the construction of the plane itself may have actually helped protect passengers. southfork ranch in dallas for a cookout with world champion grill master brett galloway. he's serving his guests walmart choice premium steaks. but they don't know it yet. they will. it's a steak-over. steak was excellent. very tender. melts in your mouth. it was delicious. tonight you are eating walmart steak. what???!! good steak.
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florida, report over a million dollars worth of flood damage, but the ridge of high pressure along the eastern seaboard still keeping things very hot there, but it looks like the heat wave will be breaking as we begin the workweek, so that will be good news for places like philadelphia, also into boston. but no mistaking, today's still going to be a sizzler. look at the counties across the southeast, still under flood watches and flood warnings. we had one area right around crossville, tennessee. they saw about 3 inches of rainfall, also in cincinnati yesterday streets were closed. they had a rough time rerouting some buses around the city there. an additional 2 to 4 inches of rainfall expected across northeastern sections of georgia and into the ohio river valley. the panhandle, some of the reports coming out of there staggering, between 15 and 22 inches of rain. additional rainfall expected today. but in new york city, 92. tomorrow, temperatures expected in the 80s. pamela, victor, back to you. >> scorcher. all right, thank you, karen maginnis.
we appreciate it. and thank you for starting your morning with us. >> we have much more in the next hour of "new day sunday." hour of "new day sunday." that starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ten hours of calm end in just a few minutes of horror. we're live from san francisco on the crash of flight 214. >> the back end was hit and flies up in the air and everybody's head goes up to the ceiling. >> while the crash was fatal, it seems a miracle that more didn't die. you'll hear one survivor's terrifying story. >> more answers are emerging, but there are still more questions. two of the most important -- how did this happen and how do we prevent it from happening again? >> good morning, everyone. i'm pamela brown. >> i'm victor blackwell. thanks for starting your day with us. we begin this morning on the west coast, where about 16 hours
ago, a boeing 777 crashed at the san francisco international airport. two people were killed. at least five people have been critically injured. now we know the identities of the two women who were killed in that crash, two young girls, actually. their names, mengyuan ye and linjia wang. both girls were 16 years old. >> witnesses say they saw the tail of the plane appear to clip the end of that runway as the plane came in for landing, and that's when the tail ripped off, leaving a trail of debris along that runway. >> some survivors say it took as much as a half hour, 30 minutes for ambulances to reach the runway, and it left many of the passengers to help each other escape from that wreckage. >> a lot of heroes that played a role yesterday. miguel marquez joins us live from the san francisco international airport. miguel, you've been following this story. what do we know? >> reporter: yeah, we do know that the two people that were killed on that flight were found on the runway. the ceo of asiana airlines spoke
just a short time ago as well, saying that there was, as far as he could tell, no engine failure on that plane. that was one thing that passengers on that plane said it felt like the engines sort of revved up just before the plane made contact with that embankment. he also said that there was no emergency warning to passengers before that plane landed. now, investigators from both the ntsb, the national transportation safety board and the south korean agency are either here are on their way here at this hour. survivors also say that they were -- that the individuals who came, the rescuers who came to the plane, they were asked for knives from the flight attendants on board so they could cut people loose from those seats. here's how one passenger described that crash landing. >> as it landed, like, it was a
hard, loud noise and then the masks fell down, and then, like, i don't know, severe stuff started falling down on people and everyone started screaming. >> reporter: now, from what we understand, we have an animation about how the train came in for a crash landing, the tail hitting the embankment, the nose pitched up and hit the runway very hard. the tail essentially disintegrated. the engine on the left side of the plane disappeared. we still don't know exactly where that was. the plane skidded to a halt. the engine on the right side came to rest right next to the fuselage. it was very hot, it was smoking. that's what eventually caused the fire on that fuselage. we also know that there was a united flight sitting right at the head of that runway waiting to take off, waiting for that asiana flight to clear out so it could then take off. they must have had a front-row seat and investigators will certainly want to talk to them. back to you guys. >> hey, miguel, i've got a question before we let you go. we know that the u.s. investigators, ntsb officials there on the scene, the south
korean officials are on their way. what's the indication of what this morning their focus will be? >> reporter: well, i think they're going to be wanting to talk to everybody that they certainly can. a lot of the passengers have already been talked to about what happened on that plane. the pilots, obviously, survived. also, they'll want to collect the black boxes out of that plane and try to figure out everything that was going on here at the airport and on board that plane to see what exactly happened. victor? >> miguel marquez live at san francisco international airport this morning, thank you. >> we mentioned the ntsb is now on site at san francisco international airport. we want to call your attention to two of the images that they tweeted out. take a look here in these pictures. you can see the investigators standing right outside the wreckage of flight 214. you can also see a view inside the cabin. take a look at this. a brief look at the chaos those passengers faced in those moments right after that plane crash landed. you can see barely, if you look
close enough, you can see rows of seating tumbled over and the little yellow dots right there are the oxygen masks that were deployed during that crash landing. you just can imagine being a passenger in those moments. all of a sudden, it goes dark. the oxygen masks are deployed. the seats tumbling over -- >> and then the smoke and the fire. >> the smoke and the fire. you don't know if the plane's going to blow up, what's going to happen. and amazingly, as we've been hearing from passengers all morning and their loved ones, so many jumped into action. instead of running off the plane, they went to help others. >> and some of the first reports that anything went wrong came from the passengers themselves through social media. i want you to listen to how one passenger on board the jet described that scene, and you will see the passenger trying to get away from, several of them, in fact, trying to get away from the plane before the ambulances arrived. >> we just crash landed on my flight from seoul to sfo. the plane hit the runway really hard on the landing, and we
skidded to the side. i thought we were going to flip over. everyone seems to be okay, a little shaken up. i don't have shoes on, hit my head pretty hard, but i think i'm okay. as much as i fly, i don't think about this stuff happening. anyway, everyone seems to be okay but shaken up. wow. >> you heard him say, as much as i fly, you don't think that's ever going to happen to you. >> yeah. >> but i'm sure that this is a reality check for a lot of people who fly to maybe pay closer attention to the safety rules and -- >> and there was an additional challenge because there were some south korean citizens -- >> right, language barrier. >> chinese citizens and american citizens, so a language befoarr, but 305 passengers made it out with their lives of the 307. 182 were taken to hospitals in the bay area. san francisco general is the city's only level one trauma center. right after the crash, the staff
pitched tents outside the er to handle the rush of patients. >> sara sidner joins us now from san francisco general hospital. what can you tell us? how many patients are still there and do you know what their condition is? >> reporter: pamela, at this time, the hospital has been saying 26 children, 27 adults being treated at san francisco general hospital. there are six patients that are critical. six patients have been released. and you mentioned those tents that they had put up because they thought there there would be many, many more dozens of patients, considering that there were 307 passengers initially on that plane and seeing the number of passengers, they figured that the fatalities or the injuries or the number of people that needed to be treated would be quite high, and so, they were prepared to bring in quite a number of people here. they had extra staff that they brought in, but it turned out, they only had to deal with about 52 to 54 patients. again, six patients have been released from this particular hospital. in all, 182 people taken to 11
bay area hospitals. this one obviously being one of the closest and with that level 1 trauma center, they were able to deal with some of the wor worst-case scenarios. i want to also mention to you the news coming in from china, that very sad news. two 16-year-old students from china are the two people who died in this crash, and their names ye mengyuan and wang lingia. so, we now know the names of the two people killed in this crash. they are 16 years old, from china and they are students. so, very sad news and our prayers go out to their families as well. and obviously, here in the bay area, there are still many, many people being treated for injuries ranging from cuts and bruises and broken bones to spinal injuries to critical internal injuries, pamela. >> quite a range there. we heard san francisco's fire chief saying that when first responders got to the scene, there were actually passengers
coming out of the water. do we know, sara, if those passengers were trying to douse themselves because of chemical exposure, perhaps, or flames? >> burns? >> do we know why? >> reporter: we don't know that yet. we can only assume, and there was an assumption made by the san francisco fire chief who made that statement, that some of the passengers that had gone to the water, that they may have been trying to douse themselves. we do not know that for a direct fact. we haven't gotten second confirmation on that, but the san francisco fire chief did mention that, and it is an interesting point that may be made. you did see the fire there. you saw the damage from the fire and the chemicals that may have been on the skin that people may have been trying to wash off. but we do know that the two people that were found dead were found on the runway. and so, there's still so much that needs to be investigated as to not only how all of this happened, but still, the number of people who are being treated, that's changing on an hourly basis as people are able to leave the hospital and the hospital releases them.
and we'll try to get that information to you as soon as we get a bit more, pamela. >> okay. sara sidner, thank you so much. >> well, the investigation has already begun. the ntsb's go team has been on the ground in san francisco for about seven hours now. they'll be joined by the south korean investigators and officials from asiana airlines and boeing. terrorism does not appear to be the cause of yesterday's crash, but besides that, the ntsb chief says that everything is on the table. >> cnn's rene marsh is following this angle of the investigation. rene, can you tell us what investigators will focus on today? >> that's right. well, pamela, victor, good morning. you know, no detail will be too small. and what we've done is we've highlighted some parts of the crash scene based on what we've been able to see in both the pictures and the video so far. so, here's what we know. going from the left of your screen to the right, we have debris in the water right there on the left, and we also know there is a debris trail where the land meets the water. we have a graphic, a map that
shows you all of the debris that we're talking about here. now, in the same vicinity, a couple of wheels from the plane and then the tip of the plane. now, shift your eyes to the right. that's where the vertical stabilizer, that's the up-and-down part of the tail, that fell off. and to the right of that is the horizontal stabilizers. that is the left-to-right part of the tail. next, we're going to move on over to the right again. one of the landing gear sections. and then, finally, move your eyes all the way to the far right of your screen, and that's where the fuselage and the passengers ended up. again, victor, you mentioned, the ntsb investigators have been on the ground now for about seven hours. they're going to be looking at how close these parts are in relation to each other, which part came off first. of course, within the ntsb there are specialized teams. they will analyze critical areas, several critical areas. the recordings will be crucial.
we're talking about the flight data recorder that holds information like the altitude and the engine thrust, the cockpit voice recorder. that could pick up things like voices, background noises and warning signals that may have gone off. both, we should note, are located in the tail area of the plane, and we know that the tail broke off, but those boxes are pretty sturdy, and the experts that we spoke to say they are likely intact. next, they're going to look at human performance, namely, the four pilots, their training, the possibility of fatigue on a more than ten-hour international flight, what they ate, drug and alcohol tests for the flight crew. they'll also look at the training for the flight crew and getting passengers off the plane. >> you know, rene, you mentioned and detailed the ntsb probe and what the u.s. officials will be looking into, but there is another crew of investigators on the way from south korea from their transportation ministry. is this going to be a
jurisdictional nightmare? i mean, this did originate from seoul, south korea. >> right. well, you know, ntsb's chairman, deborah hirschman, who's leading the go team there in san francisco, she mentioned all of these parties that will be a part of the investigation. and this is normal. this is routine. and this is a plus, because the ntsb is going to be relying on the expertise of boeing. they're going to be relying on information from all of these different agencies to simply work together. they have a lot of experience in working together to piece together all the elements of what led up to this crash. so, short answer is they will all be able to add something to this investigation, so, perhaps, we'll get some answers. >> all right. i know that the families, of course, and the survivors, 305 survivors, are waiting for those answers. rene marsh in washington for us. thank you. >> sure. >> we're going to have a lot more on the crash of flight 214.
this tragedy took the lives two of young women. their names have been released this morning. but the construction of the boeing 777 may have saved other lives. we'll talk with a former top official at the ntsb. and in other news, where is nsa leaker edward snowden headed? several u.s. rivals are offering him sanctuary. we'll find out if he's taking them up on it, right after this break. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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but what i saw as it was coming in to land at the last minute, you could see the front end pop up and then slam down, and then it went from there and it eventually became the big explosion. >> 17 minutes after the hour. let's talk now about the investigation that has begun into what caused the deadly crash of asiana airlines flight 214. it is just beginning, and it could take months, maybe even years. >> we know now that two young chinese students were killed, 16-year-old mengyuan ye and linjia wang. remarkably, 305 others on that aircraft survived. the plane was a twin engine boeing 777, capable of carrying between 305 and 440 passengers, and newer models can travel more than 8,000 nautical miles without stopping.
pet peter goles is a former managing director with the ntsb, joining us on the telephone. tell us more about the configuration of this aircraft and how it could actually have prevented a worse situation from happening. >> well, the 777, which was, you know, first put in the air in 1994, is required to have a new generation of 16seats, called 1 gcs, which means that every seat in the aircraft is attached to the frame so it does not come loose in a violent crash. and prior to these seats, investigators found that passengers would be badly injured and killed because the seats were coming loose. so, this was part of an effort in the 1980s and '90s to really strengthen the cabin interior so
that when a crash like this occurred, people really had a chance to get out, both in terms of, say, seats, the flammability of the material used in the interior of the cabin, and the burn-through rate on the outside of the aircraft. and i think all three of these things contributed to the very, very positive outcome of this accident. >> can you walk us through the early stages of what will become this investigation as we go through the next weeks and months? i mean, is this one of those situations in which investigators will want to put this plane back together? what happens in the first few weeks or so? >> i would say the first thing that happens today is there will be an organizational meeting that's probably going to take place at the break of dawn in which they'll break into working
groups. and each of these working groups, whether it is flight operations, data recorders, witness statements, whether it's survivability, whether it's human performance, will be headed up by a senior ntsb investigator, somebody who has years of experience investigating accidents. the korean safety board will be invited to participate. they will most likely be on the ground some time today, if they're not already there. and this investigation will be conducted under a set of broad rules that all of the nation's air -- you know, all of the nations have signed a treaty at the international civil aviation organization that sets the ground rules, so there's a process that everyone is familiar with that the ntsb will
follow. the first order of business is after you take care of the injured and those affected is to recover the data recorders, and they could be in the water off the end of the runway, it could be still on the plane. they will go after those as soon as possible, recover them, send them to washington, d.c., to be -- to have the data downloaded. >> we know that the ntsb is already seven hours into that work. peter goelz, former managing director with the ntsb, thank you. >> and as he said, upgrades, more secure seats, fire-proofing the cabin, reinforcements in the fuel system all contributing factors in preventing even a worse situation. well. well, we are following some other big stories this morning. a trio of latin american nations reach out to edward snowden, but will the fugitive nsa leaker find a way to get to them? that's the question. we'll have an answer after this break. ready?
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it's about 24 minutes after the hour. we'll have much more for you on that deadly plane crash in san francisco, but we are covering other stories, including edward snowden and his possible new country, his new place to call home. >> three latin american nations are indicating that they would welcome the nsa leaker with open arms. and right now, cnn's senior international correspondent, matthew chance, is live in caracas with the latest on venezuela's offer of asylum. >> matthew, has venezuela taken
any logistical, practical steps to bring edward snowden to caracas? >> reporter: at the moment, victor, it's not clear. certainly, we've had word from the foreign minister of the country who said that so far they haven't spoken to edward snowden directly, who's believed to be hold up in the moscow airport, of course, about whether or not he even wants to come to venezuela as a political refugee. and so, it seems at the moment that they haven't contacted him. they don't appear to have issued any travel documents at this stage. and of course, that's a key issue. it's not enough for venezuela simply to say, yes, we accept edward snowden to come to our country to claim political asylum. they have to provide him with some kind of travel documents so he can leave the airport in moscow. that's possible, of course, but we haven't received any indication yet that any such documents has been given to edward snowden, and so, there are still big questions hanging over whether or not he can come here.
>> you know, venezuela and america has had a history of having a contentious relationship, but it seems like recently, they've been trying to build bridges there. this could have a very big impact on venezuela if it does offer asylum to edward snowden, is that right? >> reporter: yeah, i think that's true, and it's really remarkable that just a month ago, john kerry, secretary of state, was meeting with the venezuelan foreign minister. they said they wanted to put the relationship between the two countries back on a positive footing. they were talking about the possibility of exchanging ambassadors. there's no diplomatic resilatio at the moment between the two countries. and so, yes, there have been a lot of efforts made by the venezuelans to reach out to the united states to build bridges, particularly since the death of hugo chavez earlier this year. venezuela's got some very severe economic problems, it's got huge food shortages, product shortages, massive inflation.
the united states is the biggest customer for its vast oil reserves, and it wants to kind of increase that relationship to try and lift the country out of its economic problems. offering edward snowden asylum is potentially going to derail that initiative. so, it's very risky for them. >> all right, matthew chance, thank you so much. coming up, we're going to have more on the san francisco plane crash and one survivor said it well. he said we were ten seconds from home. ten seconds from home. we're going to hear from someone who was on that flight. and will it be a special day at yankee stadium? very possibly. we'll tell you who the team is hosting at today's game. it's a brand new start. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions,
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bottom of the hour now. welcome back, everyone. i'm pamela brown. >> i'm victor blackwell. now to five things you need to know this morning. number one, the deadly crash of asiana flight 214 at san francisco international airport. the ntsb is on the scene investigating right now. part of the go team dispatched from washington last night. two girls, 16-year-olds, were killed in the crash, both of them carrying chinese passports. at least 180 others were treated at local hospitals. five are in critical condition. and at number two, more countries are offering nsa leaker edward snowden asylum. first it was venezuela, now bolivia and nicaragua are rolling out that welcome mat. so far, though, no sign of snowden, presumably still somewhere at an airport in moscow. number three, more on that train crash saturday in quebec. one person is confirmed dead,
dozens of others reported missing. this train carrying 72 cars of cruel oil rolled unattended for nearly seven miles before derailing and exploding into a spectacular inferno. we showed you the pictures yesterday. here's pictures of the plumes of smoke there. continues to burn this morning. officials say the train came loose after it had been parked. and at number four, a very somber procession begins in phoenix later this morning. 19 hearses will carry the bodies of the granite mountain hot shots home to prescott, arizona. they died last friday after battling a fire at yarnell near prescott. area fire departments will cross ladders over the procession to honor their fallen brothers. story five, newtown day at yankee stadium. the team will host about 3,000 residents from newtown, connecticut, at today's game with the baltimore orioles. the names of the sandy hook school shooting victims will be displayed on the stadium's
scoreboard as part of a special pregame ceremony. let's go back now to our top story, that deadly plane crash in san francisco. >> amazingly, some even calling it a miracle that all but two of the plane's 307 passengers survived. now we go through the crash and what it was like for the survivors. >> reporter: harrowing accounts from survivors of asiana flight 214 after a crash landing at san francisco international airport. >> the moment it touched the runway, there was a bang, you know, and we knew that something has gone wrong. >> i thought we were going back up. i thought maybe we would go back up and start flying again, trying to improvise another landing, but we went back down again. so, it was, as i said, felt like slow motion. >> all of a sudden, the engine was all, like, he sped up, like the pilot knew he was short? >> reporter: instead of a
routine landing, an impact that resulted in smoke and eventually flames and an alarming hole in the fuselage. >> asiana 214 heavy, san francisco tower. asiana 214 heavy emergency. we have a crew on their way. >> reporter: the plane landed from seoul on saturday with 307 crew and passengers aboard. all have been accounted for. >> it is incredible and very lucky that we have so many survivors, but there are still many that are critically injured, and our prayers and our thoughts continue to go out for them. >> reporter: nine bay area hospitals treated 182 passengers and crew. by saturday evening, many were headed home, but still, others remained being treated for burns, bruises and fractures. >> some of them are in shock. some are very tearful. some look stunned.
overall, i think it's amazing how well most of the patients are coping. >> and much of what we know about the crash of asiana flight 214 has actually come from the passengers who survived it. >> elliott stone gave a detailed account to our colleague, wolf blitzer, including his encounter on the runway with passengers who were apparently flung out of the plane. watch. >> seemed like we were a little bit high, like we could see the tarmac down below us. and so, we were coming down kind of sharp. and then right when it started to coast, like for the landing, all of a sudden, the engine was all, like he sped up, like the pilot knew he was short? and then just boom, the back end just hit and flies up in the air and everybody's head goes up to the ceiling, and then it just kind of drifts for a little bit probably a good 300 yards and then tips over, fire starts, everybody's pushing the doors out. and then once we were on the ground, everybody was all
huddled on one side. my family and i went to this other side, and like, 20 minutes later, this lady just appears from, like, 500 yards away, just like crippled, just walking in the flames. so, we start running over and there's like another five bodies that were like 500 yards away that nobody saw. and so, we were running over there calling ambulance and stuff, but the ambulances took like 20, 30 minutes to get there. it was pretty ridiculous. like, we were just yelling at people, yelling at firefighters, get over here, get over here! and they were just lagging hard and probably at the airport for four hours for nothing. so, i don't know. we're not very impressed with the whole protocol and systems in place for this kind of thing. >> elliott, where were you sitting on the plane? >> we were really fortunate. we were central, so, my girlfriend, her sister and two other students, and we were all pretty central to the back end, got knocked off right on that
landing. and so, the flight attendants that were out on the tarmac, you know, were way in the back because the back end got hammered because we landed short, and then they all fell out. >> and another person who was on that plane, ben levy, he knew something was wrong with the way asiana flight 214 was initially coming in for that landing. >> he talked about how it was just an ordinary flight that quickly turned to chaos and then to calm as passengers tried to help each other escape the burning plane. take a listen. >> sounded like we were about to land. the nose of the plane, as you know, goes up a little bit. and then we full throttle started hitting hard. and then we felt like we were going up again. so, that's why i said i felt like we were going to pull almost like a mislanding and go back up, and it didn't happen. it was just crash back. as i say, if we flipped, none of us would be here to talk about
it. it's like a six flags show, right? you're tied up to your chair, and then, again, we're skipping on the runway, and i felt like we were going back up. i thought maybe we would go back up and start flying again, trying to improvise another landing, but we went back down again. so, as i said it felt like slow motion. i was still tied to my chair until i unbuckled, but our chair, the whole row was completely kresh crushed on the chairs behind me. it was chaos, a lot of -- first of all, there was a lot of koreans that might not speak english that well. but yes, it was disbelief, screaming, a bit of chaos, but i think we managed to get everybody to calm down pretty quickly and really started getting out and not pushing each other or stepping on each other. so, it felt like it went really fast. >> cnn's senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, joins us now with more on the injuries passengers suffered in yesterday's crash. >> elizabeth, nice to have you here. >> thank you. thank you. >> tell us what the situation is right now. what are you hearing as far as injuries go? >> right. so, let's look at the overview of what's happening there.
so, you have 182 injured, and that's a huge number, and in fact, couldn't all be handled by the one trauma center that's in san francisco. they had to go to 11 area hospitals. and there's a real collection of, a real array of injuries. i mean, everything from cuts and bruises to broken bones, spinal fractures, burns, internal injuries. so, they're dealing with a lot and they're dealing with a wide variety of injuries in this crash. >> what are the more serious injuries? >> you know, the most serious thing -- i was talking to a doctor who has handled these situations before, and he said the very first thing you look for is trauma to the head, because if someone has had trauma, an impact to the head, there could be bleeding inside the head, and that then really doesn't leave any room for the brain to put it sort of in layman's terms, and that's immediately life-threatening. you have to go in there, you have to do surgery, you have to stop that bleeding. also, bleeding in the abdominal cavi cavity. and if you think about seatbelts, if seatbelts were on
and if that made an impact. if there is bleeding in the abdomen, that's also immediately life-threatening, something surgeons have to go in right away and stop that bleeding. >> we talk about the physical injuries, but what about the psychological wounds, the emotional scars? could there be problems with ptsd for some passengers? >> oh, absolutely. you can imagine landing. we've seen what the plane looks like. you can imagine landing in that. and you've got to make some very quick decisions on your own. you don't necessarily have a flight attendant right there telling you what to do. hopefully, you watched the inflight video, but still, you're not prepared to start making these life-and-death decisions. and you know, it's very -- it's interesting how different people deal with it. i've talked to people after these kinds of traumas, and some people, they deal with it okay, they work through it, and other people, it psychologically scars them for life. i mean, everyone is very different and you can't always predict how people are going to do. >> we're going to have that conversation in detail coming up next hour, the psychological scars. we know from sara sidner, who's outside this hospital in san francisco, the san francisco
general, that 26 children were taken there. and although they may just have cuts and bruises, imagine being 6, 7, 8 years old and you see this. clearly some psychological injuries. >> and imagine if you get separated from your parents at some point in the process. you can only imagine the mayhem that followed. we've heard about these, some of the folks were wet, some of the folks went into the water. you know, imagine the thought process that has to happen. you're landing, you think everything's going to be fine, then all of a sudden, you've got to think through, i feel heat, i'm going to get to the water. it's really traumatic. >> this reaction trying to save your life. >> exactly. >> it's amazing to hear how many people stayed calm, but for some of the passengers, you imagine it hasn't even sunk in yet. >> still in shock. >> elizabeth cohen, thanks. >> thanks. egypt rocked by unrest now is bracing for more protests today. [ female announcer ] now you can apply sunblock
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and we have new details about the crash in san francisco. new details from the ntsb. those black boxes have been recovered from asiana flight 214 from this boeing 777. >> and we've learned that those boxes are on their way to d.c. right now. of course, those boxes will hopefully provide some critical clues into what happened the
moments before that crash landing in san francisco. >> and we'll continue to have updates as they come in. the ntsb go team has been on the ground for about seven hours now. and of course, we'll continue our special coverage of this crash in san francisco. well, after days of unrest, we could see more big protests in egypt today. >> supporters and opponents of ousted president mohamed morsi plan to take to the streets again in rival rallies. let's bring in cnn's reza sayah in cairo with more on this. tell us what the situation is like there right now, reza. >> reporter: things are calm right now, pamela, but cairo and much of egypt bracing themselves for another day of rival protests and demonstrations in this ongoing conflict where on one side you have egyptians who are happy. these are opponents of the ousted president, mohamed morsi. they're happy that he's gone and egypt is on its way, seemingly, to establishing a transitional
government, then on to a permanent government. but then you have the other side, supporters of the ousted president, mohamed morsi, supporters of the muslim brotherhood. they feel robbed and betrayed. they feel that the democratic process was violated when mr. morsi was ousted. they're planning demonstrations in several locations in cairo, including in front of the presidential guard headquarters. that is where they believe, according to state media reports, that their president has been held in custody over the past several days, according to reports, facing possible charges of inciting violence. so, they're holding dplonsions. not to be outdone, opponents of morsi are holding their own demonstrations. they're calling it legitimacy belongs with the people. they'll be celebrating in a show of force. but if you look at the way things are right now, victor and pamela, egypt seems to have a problem because it's divided. some egypts are happy, some
egypts are not and we'll see how it ends. no signs of it ending any time soon. >> after mohamed morsi was ousted as president, this new interim president was installed, supported by the military, but there is confusion about who will be the next prime minister. >> reporter: yeah, that confusion came last night where there were reports that mohammed el baelbaradei, the diplomat we liked by liberals and moderates as an interim prime minister to move the country forward. he is not well liked by the islamis islamists, the conservatives, the supporters of the muslim brotherhood. they don't believe this is a man that represents their views. so, when these reports came out last night, supporters of mr. morsi were outraged, but then several hours later we got word that an appointment has not been made. the first signals that setting up a transitional government is
not going to be easy, some resistance from the ultra-conservative solivis.noor party playing a role in the pushback against the government. >> a volatile situation there. reza sayah, thank you very much for that report. nsa leaker edward snowden may soon be a man with a country, because venezuelan president nicolas maduro, who called snowden a brave youth and said his country is ready to protect snowden so humanity can learn the truth. bolivia has also extended an offer of asylum to snowden and nicaraguan president daniel ortega said that his country would do the same, if circumstances permit. and now to pretoria, south africa, where the feud among relatives of nelson mandela and one of his grandsons continues. the south african press association reports his grandson plans to file a complaint accusing the family's lawyer of misleading the courts about mandela's health. it's all part of a dispute over where mandela's three deceased
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and the defense called its first witness. >> george zimmerman's mom testified that it was her son screaming on a 911 stap the night that george zimmerman shot and killed trayvon martin. who is up next for the defense? >> we really don't know. because there is no formal list given to the media as to who is expected to testify on the defense's behalf. but that being said, we can anticipate that you're probably going to see, number one, the same medical people, the paramedics, first responders that were interviewed. because it's very important for the defense to show the injuries and to reinforce to the jury how the defense were to george zimmerman. that is, after all, part of the his self-defense claim. and i would look for witness deja vu, and he is the witness
who took the frafs of george's bloody head. and probably a medical examiner, but a different medical examiner, brought in by the defense team to bolster and go through a lot of the science and dna and the other information and evidence that came from the body of tray john and also from george zimmerman. all of those will probably be in the mix next week. >> and how many days do we expect it to take for the defense to make its case? >> reporter: that's another good question. talking to the defense, they would say that it might be three, four days that they will need. some of this could develop over time. we'll see how the questioning goes. but i think that they possibly believe by thursday, i won't necessarily it goes to the hands of jury. because there are some motions that the judge delayed and said,
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seven hours. we just learned this morning that the black boxes with are found and are on their way to washington. >> and those will give the ntsb and the south korean investigators were on their way, information about what happened and what was done tech logically before the flight smashed into the sea wall and the tail broke off and as we know later, burst into flamed. 305 of the 307 people were able to escape with their lives. two young women, 16-year-old, actually girls, chinese girls lost their lives. we have more information coming up at the top of the hour. some of the most remarkable images came from soeshlg media. a photograph posted to twitder, they've got bags, laptops and you see the smoke there coming from it the plane. he wrote on twitter, i just landed, crash landed an sfo.
and then he leaves this one word, surreal. >> it's amazing you see people walking off the plane with their bags. how they had the time and sense of mind to do that. >> well, the question is, is it calm or shock? i think that will be something we're going to talk about in the next hour, the psychological affectss of what has happened. >> and you can see fire crews there dousing the fuselage with water and foam. this man witnessed the landing by a nearby hotel and then noticed a white plume of smoke and saw a large, brief, fire ball that came from underneath the aircraft. you can bet the ntsb investigators will be talking to people like him. >> and there was frustration people there, okay, we are safe,
i know as much as anyone has said, let me go home, but they were held at the airport for a while. and we've got a lot more on this story and other big stories that we're covering this morning. >> the next hour starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ten hours of calm end in a few minutes of horror. one person says they were seconds from being home. we're live from san francisco on the crash of 214. >> the back end hit and slides up in the air and everybody's head goes up to the ceiling. >> you'll hear one survivor's terrifying experience. >> and more answers are emeshlging now, but there are still questions. who is to blame? the transportation officials have now arrived on the scene and the investigation has begun.
>> good morning, everyone. so nice to have you along with us on this subpoenaed morning. >> 8:00 here on the east coast. 5:00 out west. we have new information this morning about the investigation into that deadly crash in san francisco. the flight and data recorder on asiana flight 214 have now been recovered and on their way back to washington, d.c. at this moment. >> we've been showing you images that thief sent out via twitter from that seen. miguel marquez is at the airport. what do we know at this hour about the investigation? >> reporter: the ceo of asiana airline confirms that it was no emergency announcement to
passenger before the plane hit the embankment. he says that there was nothing wrong with the engines as far as he could tell raising the possibility that this is human error. 11:34 a.m., passengers report the pilot increased engine power seconds before crashing. >> seemed like we were a little high and we could see the tarmac down below us. we were coming down kind of sharp. and right when it started to coast for the lapding, all the sudden the engine was like he sped up and near hily was short. >> reporter: the plane's tail struck the sea wall and it disintegrated the engine. the plane whipping sideways across the runway. the plane's fuselage mostly intact finally came to a stop.
the right engine next to the fuse large was smoking. >> the back end flies up into the air and everybody's head goes up to the ceiling. and it drifts for about 300 yards, tips over. fire starts, everybody is pushing the doors out. >> reporter: from the violent landing, passengers started to emerge. on the video you can see the plane's emergency chutes deployed and people using them to get off the plane. in this video, it shows people, some of them even holding onto their bags as they staggered from the plane. his tweet is shocking as the incidentist itself. i just crash landed at sfo. everyone seems fine. i'm okay. surreal. witnesses shocked that anyone could survive. >> it kept sliding and 14r50iding and slighting. and it finally stopped.
and you could see how the fuselage kept buckling. it was unreal. >> helicopter pictures show the trail of destruction, the impact on the stone embankment at the runway's beginning. the very tip of the tail, debris from the plane littering the runway. officials say there was no sign of trouble before the plane crashed, the weather, ideal, a clear day. they were using visual flight rules to land. pilots say that landing at san francisco international can be tricky. the runway starting right at the water's edge. now, the two individuals who were killed were found on the runway, say officials. there were also survivors found in the water. and when emergency workers showed up to the planeist, the
crew on board asked for knives so they could cut passengers free and get everybody off. >> we've been hearing so many heroic stories throughout the morning. >> the ntsb's go team has now been on the ground for about eight hours. i want to show you this video before we talk about that. the video that miguel just mentioned from david eun, i think we have it. he shows people kind of walking away from the plane. and you can see them with bags and carryons. i want you to watch and listen. >> we just crash landed on our flight to seoul to sfo. it hit the runway and skidded to the side. i thought we were going to flip
over. everyone seems to be okay. i don't have shoes on and i hit my head pretty hard. but i think i'm okay. as much as i fly, you don't worry about this thing kind of happening. everybody seems to be shaken up, but okay. >> we're going to be talking about the psychological impact for the passengers coming up in the show. you can imagine all of the them will have emotional wounsds for a long time after something like that. >> is 82 of the passengers were taken to hospitals in the bay area. san francisco general is the city's only level i trauma cent center. >> cnn's sarah sidner brings us up to date.
how many passengers are still there and what's their condition? >> reporter: we can tell you just jen zragss about their situation. they had about 26 children, they treated 27 adults being treated at this hospital alone. the 192 patients were spread across 11 bay area hospitals. i want to tell you the new information that we've gotten about the two people who were killed. both were 16-year-old girls, one is men men way and the other linjia wang. and one was born june 27th and just celebrated her 16th birthday. both are from china. the chinese consulate did confirm that two of their nationals were killed in this crash. there was a group of students on
the plane, several students from a summer camp in china. and there were stuptss on the plane that did survive and had been going to a summer camp and they belonged to a school a few hours outside of shanghai. what we know is that there are still people here in critical condition, still people at standford hospital. they have about 45 patients that they have treated. they have some critically injured patients. doctors are trying to deal with the number of people who showed up. however, speaking to the spokesperson here, she said there was never a time that they were completely overwhelmed. they had put up tents just in case the number of people they had to deal with, put into triage, that they were ready for that. they didn't really have to use it. they did deal with the patients that they needed to deal with
inside the hospital. >> good news. a lot of patients have been released. >> as we told you the flight data recorders from flight 214 are on their way to washington. meantime, the ntsb's go team is in their eighth hour on the ground there. terrorism does not appear to be the cause of yesterday's crash. but besides that, the ntsb chief says everything is on the table. >> cnn's renee marsh has been tracking investigations in this. tell us what they're focusing on today. >> i just want to go back to the flight recorders that you spoke of. i do want to also add that we've confirmed that they are in good shape and that investigators, they expect that they could have a preliminary readout of the information recorded on these flight recorders later on this
afternoon. now, lots of critical information on those recorders. the flight data recorder we can tell you it has information like the altitude, engine thrust, the cockpit voice recorder, that would pick up things like voices, background noises, any warning signals that may have gone off. also what's going to be critical, is human performance, pilots, the possibility of fatigue, what they ate, drug and alcohol test for the flight crews, as well as the flight crews' training. what's also going important was mechanics. was everything working correctly. the landing gear, the engine, the pilots' instru pmts. and of course, they'll annual lieds the conversations between the pilot and air traffic control. here is a portion of the part of the kofrgts between the pilot and air traffic control once they made it in.
take a listen. >> 214, heavy, emergency room vehicles are responding. >> emergency landing. >> that's air traffic control essentially telling the pilot help is on the way. i want to show you this map. based on video and pictures that we've seen so far, the debris field looks like this, going from left to right. we have debris trail where the land meets the water. and it continues all the way to the far right of your screen where you see the fuselage where that ended up as well as the passengers. severe weathers are going to be documenting every piece of debris and the pattern of damage to get a full predict. >> renee, they're going to want to hear more from these four pilots than what is reported on the flight data recorders.
let's talk about those conversations that they're likely going to have with the pilots. >> they're going to want to talk about the moments leading up to this, what was done, what maybe wasn't done. they just want to find out every little piece of information. i mean, when we talk about what they ate, i mean it's going to get that critical as far as every piece of information that they're going to need to collect. they're also going to want to know about their training. what did they do? did they follow the proper procedures? all questions that these pilots could be asked. >> we heard from the ceo of the airline, he said that one of the main pilots had a lot of experience, he had flown, eight, ten thousand miles over his career. thanks for bringing us up to date. and up next, aviation expert joins us. >> he'll break down the crash and hunt for answers from a
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coming in to land at the last minute, you could see the front end pop up and then slam down. it went from there and eventually became the big explosion. >> that's mike murphy. we have many eyewitness accounts of this morning's tragedy at san francisco airport. >> jim tillman joins us on the phone for his expert opinion of this crash. you were on cnn when this broke. we have learned this morning that the flight data recorders are on their way to d.c. what will investigators be listening for? >> reporter: they'll be checking out the flight data recorder
which will give them indications on a large number of items about what was happening with the engines. and it will be on a time line of exactly what happened, when. it will have all kind of information about the attitude of the airplane, what the control inputs were like. they will literally be able to plug this into a computer and reenact everything that happened during the crash sequence. the flight data or voice recorder will be a treasure trove of all kinds of information in terms of what was being heard in the cockpit. conversations that will be taking place. the sounds of some of the warnings. i would imagine there were all kinds of warnings going off and it was in its landing sequence. that's the ideal glide path for
the aircraft when it touches down. it's going to give them a very, very good and very, very accurate picture of what was happening just prior to and during the crash itself. >> and of course, having heard from the pilots, as we talked about, the captain has been flying with asiana since 1996 and he's flown 8,000 to 10,000 hours in his experience. do we know how critical what they tell investigators are to the investigation? >> no, we don't. there are far more questions than we have answers for this early in the investigation. i would suspect, however, going back to your flight recorders, that you're going to get a lot of information that will give us some concrete evidence as to exactly what was happening during the actual crash. now, the training that thief experienced will be brought out during the investigation and
some of the interviews they're going to do with the airline and pilots and some of the regulatory people who administer all of this training analysis. so i'd say in the next 24 to 48 hours we're going to be a lot smarter. >> our remay marsh is reporting that the severe weathers want to interview these pilots and want to ask about their sleep schedule and if they consumed any alcohol or anything like that. but one about what they ate and other things that -- their personal routines i guess. what's the impact of those types of things from a pilot's perspective on a flight? >> reporter: well, all of those things have a bearing on what they come up with as they're contributing factors to the accident. there are something called human factors as a whole segment of the investigation. but they concentrate their
efforts on, yes, what we ate, when they ate it. how much rest they had. what their -- the best they can come up from a emotional state. they will -- in listening to the cockpit voice recorder, they're going to get some feeling about the crew coordination between the pilots. there's going to be a lot of very detailed investigation that goes into this crash. it's just to be a very voluminous, large investigation packet before they ever come up with with what could be the contributing factors. >> we'll find out more this afternoon. aviation expert, jim till moip, thank you for your perspective. and candy controlly will be
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24 minutes after the hour. we'll have much more on the tragic plane crash in san francisco. but there are other stories we're following this more than. >> three countries have indicated that they will welcome the man who has been a thorn in the side of the u.s. government, edward snowden. he's getting asylum offers from venezuela, nicaragua, and bolivia. >> matthew chance is live in krauk kos this morning. i'm surprised that he's applied
for asylum in more than 20 countries. >> reporter: he hasn't been given the opportunity to respond yet. the venezuelans said they haven't even made contact with him yet. and what venezuelan officials say is that that they intend to speak to him on monday. until then we're not going to hear whether or not he'll come. having said that, there was a plane that was leaving moscow earlier today, edward snowden not to believed to have been on it. but, of course, there are daily flights that would take edward snowden from moscow to cuba if he chooses to accept this offer of asylum. >> and if he does accept this offer, it can have serious
economic repercussions for venezuelan. in about light of that, do you think that some of this is just talk. >> reporter: i think it could be, yes. i mean, you're right. the economic consequences are potentially quite severe for a country like venezuela. it's got dire economic problems. inflation is at 35%. there's a huge shortage of basic products from toilet paper to chicken. and in the last month, they've been reaching out to the united states to try and build relations. if edward snowden does come here as a political refugee, that could derail that process. and that's why many people in venezuela feel that the president, ma durra, is merely saying this. but he doesn't want snowden to come here. he. >> we'll see what the next step
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welcome back, everyone. bottom of the hour. i'm pamela brown. >> i'm victor blackwell. now to the five things you need to know this morning. >> number one, the plane crash in san francisco. the ntsb has recovered the flight and data recorders, and they're on their way back to washington for investigation. witnesses said they saw the plane clipping the tail of the runway and sliding along the runway and bursting into flames. >> story two. bolivia and nicaragua are rolling out the welcome matt for edward snowden. no sign of him still. >> more on the plane crash saturday in quebec. one person is presumed dead and others missing. and derailed and exploded into a
spectacular inferno which continues to burn. >> number four. a very somber procession begins in phoenix later this morning. 19 hearses will carry the bodies of the grant the mountain hot shots home to prescott, arizona. they died last saturday battling a fire at yarnell hill. they will honor the fallen brother. >> and at number five, it's new town day at yankee stadium. they'll host the people from newtown connecticut and it will be displayed on the score board as part of a special pre-game ceremony. >> we have more now on our top story this new day. the crash landing of asiana flight 214 in san francisco.
we now know the names of the two girls killed in the crash. ye mengyuan and linjia wang. both were 16-year-old. >> and amazingly out of the 307 passengers on the flight, those were the only two fatalities. more than 180 people were treated at bay area hospitals after the crash. and there were spinal conditions, broken bones and smoke inhalation. >> it was the survivors who saved so many of their fellow passengers acting as both victims and first responders. >> we spoke with this lady. her father was on the plane. listen to her describe the scene and some of the harrows who jumped into action. >> it was a flight attendant who was stuck, you know, the inflatable slide that comes out of the emergency doors, it had
actually inflated inside the plane. she was in her seat with the seat belt on and it blew up, inflated right in front of her. and once they crashed, he said that he saw her leg kind of hanging in midair. and she was moving it. trying to cry for help. and she was trying to cry for help and obviously she couldn't breathe because it was just inflated in front of her. so my father, another gentleman and actually her husband was also on that flight, they tried to free her. and they couldn't deflate it, obviously, because there's no sharp objects lo s allowed on t plane. they freed her and she's at a hospital right now. he said it was very surreal. everyone was calm, flight andiants were calm and prochgsal to escort everybody out. >> take us back to that moment
when this plane is on the ground, it's burning and your father is telling you the story of what he's seeing and the people around. you mentioned one woman and her leg. what else did he see? these rescues, the peopling, the other injuries? >> he did mention that there were some harrows that he definitely wanted to praise, including one flight andiant. she was a woman and she was very -- her build was very small. but he said that she was helping men twice her size get out of the plane and she was very calm and cooperative. which all of the passengers on board. and he praised her for being so brave and so courageous and he's been trying to get in contact with her. and he also for the other passengers themselves were very cooperative. and when they were trying to free the flight anti-ant who was trapped. everybody was helping each
other, which is a relief in a situation like that. >> pamela, i just cannot imagine being bird and you hear that a plane from seoul to san francisco has crash landed. >> and whenever my loved ones have a flight, i'm praying for you, and to actually find out your father, sister, brother, mother or friend was on that flight, it must have been terrifying. but we've been talking about how it's unbelievable more people weren't killed when you look at the devastation there. >> let's talk about the crash survivors injuries now. >> elizabeth cohen joins us now with licensed psychologist and ptsd expert eric fisher. tell us what the situation is right now, what can you tell us about the injuries. >> as you said, it's amazing
there weren't more deaths. but there are quite a few injured people. 182 injured people are at 11 area hospitals. the injuries run the gamut, everything from cuts and bruises, broken bones, spinal fractures, burns and internal bleeding. >> and some of the injuries we can't see. the cuts and bruises, those are easy to identify. but dr. fisher, tell us about some of the psychological issues, ptsd. >> in any situation we have something beyond the scope of what we experience, we have the ability to experience post traumatic stress disorder. you can have symptoms from six months to years later. and what sets them off might be triggers. and when people see these he wants on the news it could be difficult.
one thing that's coming to mind to me is the core spoent at sandy hook day and today's tragedy. it's a tragedy that some parents could be reminded of their tragedy going back to major newtown events. >> so the newtown victims could retraumatized from this? >> it's the events that went on. and all it takes is a trigger to prompt somebody who might have signs and disturbing emotions or recurrent thoughts. this kind of says, why bother, there's always going to be a tragedy and there's always going to be something. people with ptsd are waiting for the next shoe to drop and weighing for something bad to happen in their life and it reinforces that belief that i have to be ready for trauma. >> i think the randomness of it,
that that's part of impact. no one thinks that this is going to happen when they get on a plane. >> that's what david eun said. you never think this is going to happen. but what's incredible, you see the passengers walking off the plane with their luggage garage in hand looking calm. are they in shock or what do you think? >> there's a shock. our body has the ability to move into the ability to handle these situations in the moment. it's afterward that we have to be concerned about. people moving from victim to rescuer, it's a very powerful feeg to have. when you have a moderating factor to help you increase your power over the event sks that's have positive. that's a very good thing as they're working through healing. you sometimes have first
responders who have ptsd from er, people, doctors, they often are talking things through. so even your questions you were asking her about what she had experienced in one of the people before was a great question. the woman you had on in the last hour who had been through a crash and it took me three times to get me on the plane, it was a great therapy. she did a great job working through her therapy. >> and it speaks to the strength of the human spirit and mind. that in this situation, you're landing in a plane like every time you've landed and something bad happens. people really snap to it. they know how to help others and keep calm. and yes, they're feeling shock and trauma, but they know how to handle it. >> and we heard from the fire chief that some jump sd into the water right after the crash.
do we think there could have been -- >> the fire chief was saying that you can make assumptions that they must have felt something that made them go to the water. we don't know what it is. maybe they felt the heat and it's a natural human reaction to go to the water when you feel that kind of heat. maybe they did smell something. it's unclear how it was an automatic reaction versus something we don't know. >> thank you so much. >> and in other news, this morning, egypt on edge. the country's first democratically elected president has been toss the out of power. we're watching the volatile situation up next.
fearing up for new demonstrations. >> supports are taking to the streets. in the past few days, when that has happened we've seen the situation turned violent. we want to bring in reza sayah in cairo. it's been calm, how long do we think that's going to last? >> reporter: it may not last much longer because it country is bracing itself for another settle of rival demonstrations. on one side you have egyptians who are happy. they're thrilled that he's gone and egypt seems to be on its way to establishing a transitional government that will lead to a new government. then you have the unhappy egyptians. and other ones who say they simply support the democratic process that they say has been violated.
they're frankly angry and shocked that a week ago they were marking his one-year anniversary and now he's in custody fighting for his freedom. they're going to be holding demonstrations and demanding him to be freed. they're not to be outdone, his opponents, mr. morsi's opponents. they'll be holding a celebration saying legitimacy is with the people. that's what they're calling the demonstrations. whenever you have these rival demonstrations there's some concern that some elements are going to cross paths and be violence as we saw over the past few days. >> speaking of opponents, there were a lot of people who thought that a prominent opposition leader would be named the interim prime minister this weekend. what happened with that? >> reporter: it's hard to say what happened last night. but there were all sorts of
reports that he was appointed as interim prime minister. this is the egyptian diplomat. many among the liberals and moderates like him as an interim prime minister. however, when he talked to the islamists and supports of the ousted president, they do not like him. when word came out that he had been pointed interim prime minister, they were outraged. however, hours later, we learned that the reports were false. these could be indications that establishing an interrim government is going to be challenging. >> reza sayah in cairo for us. thank you. >> and the defense has the floor tomorrow morning in the george zimmerman trial. picking up after a week of dramatic testimony. we'll tell you what to expect up next. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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to florida now where the trial of george zimmerman is set to resume tomorrow morning at 9:00 eastern time. before the weekend recess, the prosecution rested friday and the defense called its first witness. >> george zimmerman's mother testified that it was her son screaming on the 911 recording the night that zimmerman shot
and killed martin. our martin vaf vij is reporting. he says the case will go as long as it takes. how long do we expect that to be? >> reporter: that's a very good question. i would think that it's probably not going to take as long as the prosecution has taken for a number of reasons. primarily some would say, well, it looked like prosecution was almost putting out the defense's case. but on top of that, you know, the initial premises have already been brought up by both sides in their opening statements and in their cross-examination. i would think the defense won't take as long. we've been told expect three, four days. there's other issues that would have to be dealt with right at the very end and then it goes to the jury deliberation. what a remarkable day. you mentioned friday.
it was breathtaking. and i don't mean to make it sound like a spectator sport. this is clearly far more serious than that. nobody believed that you would see both trayvon martin's mother and george zimmerman's mother take the stand on the very same day. talk about dramatic. >> who else can we expect to go up for the defense to bring up when the trial resumes? >> reporter: well, they don't give us any kind of list. but we can assume from talking to both the defense and prosecution, a number of things. you would expect that you're going to see a sear series of witnesses that will come on and reinforce the injuries that occurred to george zimmerman he says has a result of the altercation that he had with 17-year-old trayvon martin. so think of the paramedics, think of the doctors who have treated him. think of people who can analyze both the medical records and photographs and try to reinforce
to that jury that these were serious injuries. because there were people put on by the prosecution that said the injuries that zimmerman suffered were insignificant. and if george zimmerman is saying that my life was flashing before my eyes, i had to shoot him, they have to reinforce that the initials were serious. >> thank you for your insight and perspective. >> the data recorders from the flight 214, they're heading to washington. and the chief of the ntsb promises a thorough investigation into that crash. >> meantime, over in egypt, 30 people have died over demonstrations over hoe haumd morsi. we want to bring in candy crowley. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> you were speaking with ntsb chair woman debra hearseman this morning. tell us what the latest in the
investigation is. >> a couple of things i know. the first is when the ntsb promises a thorough investigation, it is always preceded by a lot of noninformation. they don't like to talk until they have it all. the other thing i know is that most crashed are multi determined. they tend to be kind of this happened and then this happened, and then together here's how it all came out. we know something from the passengers who said there wasn't any announcement overhead. they think they were flying too low. but as we all know that eyewitnesss, particularly the nonexpert eyewitnesses, sometimes experience things differently than the reality of it. >> let's shift to egypt. mohamed morsi is out. what's at stake for the u.s. here? >> well, in the -- in the broad term, it really is stability in
the middle east. egypt has always been seen as a key to that stability. obviously with democratic casey coming in a year ago with the election of morsi, the u.s. was hoping it was on a path. now we see that once again egypt is not in chaos, but it's future is undetermined at this point. so the larger issue is middle east peace. but we're already seeing that what happens in egypt can spill over into neighboring countries and that's how, you know, sparks get ignited. so the u.s. is very interested in seeing that whatever goes on in egypt from this day forth, it is not about violence but about a process that the u.s. hopes will get egypt back to a democratic process. >> and of course we're watching that. reza sayah there live in cairo. thank you, candy. keep it here for "state of the union" with candy crowley. at the top of the hour.
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live pictures this morning from san francisco of the wreckage of flight 214. >> you look at that video right there, but we're hearing from flight experts this morning, it could have been much worse. we spoke to someone earlier who are saying that there have been up fwrads to these planes recently, and perhaps that could
have prevented more deaths. we fwhoe that two people were killed, two 16-year-old girls from china. >> and we'll continue follow this story throughout the day. now the weather. it is a sloppy wet mess and it has been more days. >> what else is going on across the country? >> we've got the heats that's cranked up into the northeast. my husband is a 777 air palestine pilot and we were rifted to the coverage that was going on there. across the southeast, we've got lots of moisture and it looks like some of the flooding rainfall is expected to continue across this region. even in some areas we might expect as much as 2 to 4 inches possible. so still quite stormy for the afternoon. but up towards the northeast, the temperatures are expected to be into the 90s. we'll esome cooling off as we
head towards monday. but watch out, it is going to be very oppressive. back to you. >> that will do it for us. thank you karen. >> thank you so much for watching. "state of the union" starts now. "state of the union" starts now. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> we are following two unfolding stories today. first the dramatic crash of flight 214 at the san francisco airport. investigators arrived just a few hours ago. the flight data recorders have been recovered and on their way back to washington, d.c. for analysis. and half a world away the growing turmoil in egypt. now a country divided after the military ousting of its democratic government islamic government. and