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did you hear any other recordings in this case? >> no, not to my recollection? >> you the hear any recordings about his call, his being george zimmerman's call to the police that day? >> no, i don't recall hearing. is there any reason why you would have heard the story, you don't know why? >> no. because i was trying not to pay attention. >> on purpose. >> on purpose. i was trying not. i know that the news was going to be covering it. i just, and plus my work schedule, i'm not always home anyway. >> sure. if i play something for you, will you be able to recognize the voice that's on there, do you think? >> i'll try. >> okay. >> you haven't heard that recording where he's calling the police? >> i don't think so. >> where there is profanity
173. >> sanford police department. >> okay. we had some break-ins in my neighborhood. there is a real suspicious guy on the circle. 111 peachtree circle. this guy looks like he's up to no good or on drugs or something. he's walking around looking about. >> okay. is his white or hispanic? >> he looks black. >> did you see what he was wearing? >> yeah. a dark hooddy, like a grey hoodie, either jeans, sweat pants and white tennis shoes. he's just staring. >> just walking around? >> looking at all the houses. now he's staring at me. >> okay. it's 1111 or 111?
sample that's the clubhouse. >> are you near the clubhouse right now? >> yeah, now he's coming towards me. >> okay. >> he's -- >> he's a black male? okay. how old would you say? >> a button on his shirt. something's wrong with him. he's coming at me now. he's got something in his hands. i don't know what it is. >> just let me know. >> okay. >> when you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in, make a left.
actually, you go past the clubhouse. >> on the left-hand side from the clublouse? >> you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left, yeah. you go straight in -- down towards the middle, the entrance. >> okay. what's that? >> the back entrance. >> okay. we don't need you -- >> all right, sir, what is your name? >> george. >> george, what's your last name? >> zimmerman. >> at which house is your car
parked in front of? >> all right. jp morgan, do you want to meet with the officers when they get out there? >> yeah. >> where are you going to meet with them at? >> if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then to go past the mailboxes, it's my truck. >> what exactly are you parked in front of? >> i don't know, it's a cut through. i don't know the address. >> you live in the area? what's the home? >> oh, crap, i don't want to give it all out. >> do you want to meet with them near the mailboxes and stuff? >> yeah, that's fine. >> all right.
george. >> can you have him call me, i'll tell them where i'm at? >> okay. that's no problem. >> do have you my number? >> okay. i'll let them know to call you when they're in the area. >> thanks. >> you are welcome. >> miss benjamin, i played the whole thing because you indicated you have not heard that? >> that's the first time i have not heard the whole thing. i realize i heard bits and pieces as a part of the news. >> so you had heard parts of it through the news? >> yes. >> you recall what parts you heard of that? >> perhaps the part where he was trying to give an address. >> okay. all right. i'm assuming you recognize at least one of the voices on there? >> absolutely. >> that is definitely george zimmerman? >> definitely george. >> no dispute if your mind. >> no dispute in my mind. >> when you listen to it now,
was there a clang in his voice, did he appear to be excited doing something other than a normal monotone. >> to me it sound maybe like he's walking outside and perhaps wended or it's winded. >> or maybe even running? ? right? >> i don't know. >> you weren't there? >> no. >> based on these voice the voice does change, you acknowledge when after he says he's running, then you acknowledge mr. zimmerman's voice does change, correct? >> yes, it seems to change. >> in fact, you heard some profanity there, didn't you? >> you picked it out. >> i'm not asking you to repeat it, please. >> perhaps, but, well, go ahead. >> well, he used -- do you
recall hearing that? >> i don't recall hearing that. >> do you want me to play it again? >> no. >> okay. do you acknowledge his voice changes? >> it sounds like maybe the environment he's in changed to me more. >> so he's moving. >> like me might be walking or it might be windy. >> okay. but would you acknowledge and the reason i ask, because you mentioned you had heard his voice change on prior occasions when he was, i think you described whooping it up, like celebrating, is that correct? >> yes. >> is that what you were making reference to a campaign, when you and a bunch of other people were there, whooping it up, getting excited, correct? >> yes. >> so you acknowledge in this conversation you heard between mr. zimmerman and the 911 emergency operator, his voice does change? >> yes. not like the pep rally. >> he's not going, hey! right? he's not screaming? >> correct.
his voice seems more matter of fact to me. >> in this one? >> yes. than -- >> you don't notice? >> it seems to me it may have been outside while he's walking or it's windy or something. >> i'm going to play a part for you. obviously, you weren't there? >> correct. i was not there. >> i'm asking you based on the voice, on mr. zimmerman's voice, i want to ply one snippet of it for you that you heard. do you recall hearing that now? >> yes. >> you agree his voice does change there, correct?
>> no. >> you don't think it changes from what he was saying before? i know the words won't change. i'm talking about, you don't think his voice inflexion changes at all? >> not necessarily right there. >> okay. >> and then do you recall hearing this? >> he goes straight in. >> down towards the entrance. >> okay. which entrance is that? >> the back entrance. >> did you hear that last part? >> yes, i did. i was listening more for the backgrounds noise. >> you were hearing noise? >> yes. >> so you heard the defendant say --
>> i'm sorry, i was listening very carefully for the backgrounds noise. >> let me do this, if i could, may i approach this witness, your honor? >> yes, you may. >> i'm going to get closer to you, i'm going to put it right in front of you, we can get you head phones if you need. let me play it again, focus on what he says. >> so you want me to pay attention to more of what he was saying? >> yes, ma'am. >> than the backgrounds noise, whether it's winds or he's walking? >> or running, yes. >>. >> yes, you go straight in. >> okay, which entrance he headed for? >> the back entrance.
>> can you hear it now? >> yes. >> did you hear that? >> yes. >> you would agree that there is also background noise? >> yes, that seems to be between where he said he's running and the next thing he says. >> right. >> that it sounds like either the wind picked up or he was walking to me. >> but you agree, he's uttering that in terms of trying to follow somebody or did whatever? >> i don't take it that way at all. i think he was just observing. >> so he's observing and making a -- he's wrestling the person he is following or observing. >> if i may object. speculation. >> overruled. >> may i approach the bench?
may i have the question read back? >> you can have the question read back, if you need it read back? no need to approach the benefit. . >> i renew my request, the speculation of the speaker of the words was speaking. >> no speakingobased upon her previous answer, the objection is overruled. >> you believe when he uttered the words -- >> i think it was a comment he was making. >> about the individual he was following or chasing, correct? >>. >> kwhon how to answer that.
i think he was making an observation at the beginning. he may have had a comment to make. >> okay. >> but you agree -- >> but i don't think he was in an extremely excited state at that point based on my experience with him. >> you did something when you listened to that. >> i closed my eyes. >> did you close your eyes when you listened to the other 911 recording originally? >> originally, no. >> so this time you really wanted to focus on what was being said, who was uttering it. you closed your eyes. the first time you were watching, you were dock stuff around the house, so you didn't close your eye, you weren't prepared for it, correct? >> right. >> now are you saying that in those campaign things and all that he -- okay. so you agree there is a distinction, correct? >> a distinction between --
>> in terms of that language that was being used? >> we, yes. >> okay. >> and you heard the part will, you clearly made out the other language, the part -- >> yeah. >> okay. >> and his voice didn't change at all there? >> it may have been starting to change a little bit. but i think that he was commenting and giving out or trying to give out information. >> about the person he was observing? >> yes. >> okay. >> and so, in other words, based on what you observed and based on his knowledge of hearing his voice you believe testifies making a comment like referring to -- >> i heard those words, but i
don't -- i don't think it was in a heightened state of alert. i think it was just more conveying information. >> just like an observation like i would say you know, joe, and referring to some profanity like an every day observation of somebody? >> yes, i heard that before. >> right? >> usually, it's expressed in ranger, isn't it? >> not necessarily. >> so it's a complimentary term? >> not necessarily. but i have encountered people who use language like that in a conversation. it doesn't necessarily come across to me as angry or excited, just conversation. >> like a matter of fact. >> especially with my kids. >> with your kids, i don't mean to get personal.
>> well, when cussing. >> okay. >> it does not always indicate that there's, you know, an alarming situation. >> it might. >> it could. in this situation it did not meet. >> that's all you can go on, you weren't there you agree, i apologize, i cut you off. you finishing? >> yes. >> did i interrupt you? >> i don't know, go ahead and ask another question. >> okay. my question is, you agree in this case based on what you heard, he was observing somebody and he was making comment about the individual he's observing, right? >> yes. or about the situation. >> or about the situation. he's wanting to make sure the person doesn't get away? >> i don't know. that i think he was just reporting on what he saw. >> okay. >> so the bottom line is you believe he was making an observation to report it? those words to describe the person he is reporting about?
>> yes. >> now, why, when he was org untilly asked about the individual and asked in terms of what's his race, he referred to him as a black male, at that time did he -- >> what's the objection? >> speculation. >> sustained. >> i have no further questions. >> thank you. any redirect? >> yes, your honor. >>. >> that's okay. thanks, though. good morning again. so now you have heard the second tape? >> yes. >> you have not heard that before in its entirety? >> correct. >> now, you've had a listen can
you tell me anywhere in that tape where you heard george zimmerman speaking in an angry way? >> no. >> in a way that evidenced to you that he had ill will or spite? no. >> that he was acting with hatred for whoever may have been the subject of his conversation? >> no. when you heard mr. zimmerman use -- was he saying it the same way as mr. de la rionda said it? >> no. >> tell the jury the way mr. de la rionda and mr. zimmerman say it? >> it seemed to me like mr. della ron do was trying to highlight it, make it sound
heightened. yet, i don't feel it was that way at all. i think it was more a statement, a comment. >> you mentioned that you have children? yes. i have two sons. >> their ages. >> 30 and 33. >> okay. in conversations with them, have you heard them use such words as, let me premise this, in a courtroom bound by the evidence the curse words, with euse the curse words, just so you know why, i'm questioning you about curse words, okay. have you -- >> yes, i have. >>. >> does that always connotate anger, ill will, spite? >> not at all. >> and do you think it did from
listening to george zimmerman's voice in this recording? >> not at up a. >> you've heard the words and you closed your eyes. why did you close your eyes to listen to that tape? >> since i had been asked about the question and mr. de la rionda asked or said something about running, i was trying to listen very carefully to see if i could hear. and was it only by concentrating that you could even the third time -- >> i didn't hear it the first time. >> describe for the jury the difference that you noticed in a way -- mr. de la rionda presented it to you in his cross examination? >> i think mr. zimmerman said it more as a matter of fact kind of
casual comment type thing. and i got the feeling mr. dela ron do, while i could hear it in his voice, his voice was louder and he was highlighting those word words. >> when you were talking about this change in voice, were you indicating to the jury that you believed that it was apparent that george changed his emotional status or just his location? >> not at all, it seemed more locational perhaps that he was walking or if it was windy. >> was there ever a time in that that you thought that the tape evidenced that mr. zimmerman was acting in an angry way? >> not at all. >> so when asked the question by mr. de la rionda, did you hear
those words being yelled by mr. zimmerman in a campaign event, i think he said no? >> no. >> but you have, in fact, heard him yell? >> absolutely. >> during a campaign? >> yes. >> vote for us, vote for my guy, down with the other guy? >> pep rallies, and such. >> that's a part of the campaign? >> absolutely. get everybody excited and motivated. so, yes, i have heard him in that setting. >> is that a part of the experience level you bring to your testimony level here today having heard mr. zimmerman scream even though in a happy way? >> yes. >> of course, you never heard him scream for his life before, have you? >> no. >> but you did hear him on that 911 call? >> yes, i did. >> we talked about, you were asked about the continuous nature of the calling. i'm going to pose two different possibilities to see if we can
vet through them a bit. if i were to scream one scream over the next until my breath ran out, 30 seconds, aah, fair that to if i were to scream in segments, sort of with a cadence, do you know what that is? >> that is that it sounds more like. which one? >> the second one. >> more like several screams? >> yes. >> maybe fooims times for breathing in between? >> yes. >> objection. leading. >> nothing further, thank you. >> thank you. >> an further redirect, your honor? >> i was spiking louder, so you can make sure you heard the words. you are saying that mr. zimmerman, since he was aware he was being rorlded was uttering it under his breath, correct?
>> i don't know about that. i think he was just talking. >> right. you agree that the f'ing punks profanity, was uttered unhis breath, in other words, because he knew he was being rorlded? >> i don't know that at all. >> the second half had some speculation. >> sustained. >> you agree that it was hard, difficult to hear it the f'ing then punks, you agree to that? >> i heard it. >> i had to play it for you a few times. right? >> yes. >> okay. thank you, ma'am. >> any redirect? >> one question if you wanted to say something when you were on a phone call with somebody let's say that you knew was being recorded, so if you wanted to say something under your breath to make sure it wasn't recorded, what would you do with the phone another your mouth? >> take it away from my head.
>> nothing further. >> thank you, can miss benjamin be excused? >> yes, your honor. >> thank you very much, you are excuse excused. do you want to break or go straight through to lunch? >> they're good. call your next witness. >> george singleton, i'm association your honor, may i switch up my -- i'm going to call just a second. >> yes you may. >> we have rolled over the top of the hour. i'm ashleigh bandfield live in sanford, florida. the defense continues to call witness after witness. you just heard something that is really telling about this trial and about this judge. he wants this jury to make
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. >> defense witness number five today, john donnelly just took the stand. the reason you are seeing him. he is married to lee anne benjamin. they are both friends with george zimmerman. he will continue with his testimony now. >> we met george, my wife is a real estate broker and she owns her own business and we had an office in a building kind of a one one-story ranch type bvlgsd the real estate office was on the other side. i have my own business. my wived a an extra room.
so my office is right next to hers and we get along pretty well. so that worked out very well for us. we have worked right next to each other for 15 years now. >> would you -- >> oil sorry. go ahead. >> would you just give us a feel for how the friendship between yourself and mr. or mr. zimmerman has grown over the past several years. >> our friendship really started with george a lot of times coming to our offices. we always had refrigerators full of soda, food, microwaves, george took care of a lot of our insurance policies, all of our
policies with the insurance company. george helped us out a lot with that. we just got to be good friends with george he was a sharp guy, he stopped in, we would be there until 7:00. george would sit and talk to us, especially with the business stuff. he was very interested in business, how we were doing. and we just got to be very close to him. one time he came in and asked me to show him how to tie a windsor knot in a tie. and that just touched a very little personal part of my heart and he has always been there ever since. >> so he would credit you for the tie he is wearing? >> yes, sir.
>> as a matter of fact, we can credit you for more than just the tie, is that correct? did you help him with some clothing to get ready for his trial? >> yes, sir. i took george down and i believe i bought him three suits. >> let me interrupt you, i didn't tell you as well. we're very used to talking in familiar terms with our friends, george, mark, whatever. we need to use full surname, so the record is clear. i apologize to that, i should have said that earlier. when you mention george, please tell us his full name. >> yes, i took mr. zimmerman down to the clothing store. i purchased him suits, ties, shirts, for the courtroom. i have been in and out of courtrooms many times, not testifying, which can be a
terrifying experience but i have been taught by my attorney clients when you come to the courtroom, you dress out of respect. >>ory. that was up with of the ways you supported him, helping him out with clothing? >> yes, sir. >> you also donated money to his legal defense fund? >> yes, sir. >> you consider him a friend? >> a very close friend. >> can you tell the jury the spec forum spectrum of george and the laughing, yelling, you have your experienced level for his voice? >> yes, i've heard close experience levels with his voice, both from casual conversation, laughing, lunches, dinners. we bring several political
campaigns for which my feet still hurt and george and i would be holding up sign, yelling, so forth, during the campaigns. >> okay. you had not listened to the what we now call the louder 911 call until recently, is that correct? >> yes. >> when you were, before you studied to become a p.a., had you had any medical experience before that? >> i was a combat medic in vehicle. >> explain what that is. >> you are rennedering medical aid to your men that are hurt, injured. so it goes through, if you would
and i apologize to an exten. we will bring you back to that. with that as a premise, if you would explain to the jury what the normal day is in the life of a combat medic in vehicle. >> well, apparently, if you will give me a little patience here, when you are in the army, you are with 60 other men, you eat, sleep, shower, with them on a daily basis, a lot of times you are sharing your bunks with them. i got in vehicle if december of with 67 and through december. >> i apologize, sir,ly object to relevance. >> please approach. >> so sidebar called, you are just getting the backgrounds of john donnelly at this point.
the key point is that he is a friend of george zimmerman. this would make the fifth friend to get up on the stand, presumably mark o'mara is about to say, i want to play a tape for you, ask you who the voice is on that tape. while they are in sidebar, we will fit in a quick break and be right back after this.
that was an issue, what kind of things he heard on the battlefield. he is back to testifying. let's listen. >> 40 to 60 depending on availability. >> and then the medics are intibl obviously for the medical care for the combat troops? >> yes, sir. for the men who get wounded and hit. >> now, when we talk, is company the right term? there is truth at the time? >> well, there is squad, company, platoons, basically, you might mr. in a squad search and destroy, you might be a full platoon search and destroy. you might need a full company. >> okay. the 60 to the 100 combat soldiers that you were working with, can we come up with a term so we know the topic? can we call that the company or? >> yes. >> okay. so it might not be precisely accurate, for our purposes, we
will call that group of combat and who is mostly men back there in the '60s, right? >> yes, sir. >> so it's calling combat men of that company? >> yes, sir. >> so you maybe want three other medics were responsible for medical care of that company? >> yes, sir. >> these were, were these people that you would be with throughout the day and throughout the week and the month and the year? >> you are with them through the year the night, you are with them at all times? >> did you have an opportunity to talk to them and interact with them? >> yes, sir, when we were back at base camp, that's all you did was really take care of your equipment, talk, and, you know, the scuttlebuttt that goes on in the military, mess halls and so forth, you talk all day long, there is really nothing else to do. >> until combat begins?
>> and until you get sent out on a mission. >> during those times and with all of those men in the company, did you have an opportunity to talk to them both conversationally and what other forms of communication, yelling, screaming, laughing, anything like that? >> well, obviously, the casual conversations, laughing, joking, sometimes drunk and having 90 degree beers, but once you got into combat and, of course, the voices change. >> so you had a chance and i know that timing isn't going to be right, but you would interact with the soldis during the day, correct? >> yes, sir. >> presuming that the missions were at night. i know that wasn't always true, but for our purposes, hanging out with them during the day,
mixes might occur at night, is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> did you then have an opportunity where you would have to, when do you do your own work? what happens that causes you to now have to be a medic and do something? >> well, at base camp, you took care of the normal routine medical issues that come up from colds or people laceration, or anything else that happens, once you are in the field and once you get into combat and in 1968, i think everybody remembers, it started at the end of that january and you could be fighting in the field for five, ten days straight. . >> did you then have an opportunity as a medic to have to attend to people that you
knew during the day as they were wounded in combat? >> yes. >> and tell the jury about. it's a little difficult. >> well, let me, if i might -- let me. i was just going to sort of see if i could meet him? >> there has been a request to approach the bench. i don't know what it's about. please approach. >> yes, ma'am mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
there is one thing you missed. po seconds ago, sabrina fulton walked out of that courtroom with her attorney. walked out. not going to listen to the rest of this testimony. at lieft know she is no longer listening. >> times they're yelling out orders, yelling for ammo. sometimes they're yelling for a medic. sometimes they're screaming for help. >> okay. and based upon the year that you spent doing that, were you able to distinguish the yelling for help, the asking for a medic, and fair i compare that to those people you lad heard the day of or the day before the regular conversation with john? >> when you're in a combat acquisition like that in the den
of battle, for some reason, you develop i'm not sure what you would call it an ability, but when you hear that, you can distinguish the screams for help, distinguish the screams for medic, you grab the rifle, you grab your medic's kit. and your job is to run. you go to where they're rat. but invarably, because you know the men you are with, you know the men that you eat, sleep with, you know who it's going to be before you get there. >> you can tell that from hearing their voice screaming for help and comparing that to what you have heard in your every day life with them? >> yes. >> okay. >> i had started this a moment ago by talking to you about the evidence in this case and whether or not you had listened
to the phone call, the 911 call in this case, had you listened to it, when was the first time that you listened to it? >> i had heard pieces of it inadvertently, listening to the news or wherever, i generally tuned it out, walked away. i really didn't want to. >> why, tell the jury why you didn't want to listen to this tap tape? >> it can be very distressing. >> so listen to a friend of yours scream for help, if, in fact, it was a friend of yourings? >> yes. >> is that why you didn't listen to the tape? >> that's why. >> but you have listened to it recently, is that correct? >> i is will bed to it on this past saturday morning sitting in
my office alone and i found it on the internet somewhere and i played it exactly twice. >> we're going to play it for you again if i might. this is the tape that is in evidence. i'm thought sure what you listened to on the internet. i will ask you if you listened to this. i will play it one time through to the end of the tape. then if you want me to play it again, let me know. if you want me to go back to a certain point, let me know, at the end of which i will ask you if you have an opinion on the tape. >> yes, sir. >> obviously, i am talking about the person speaking to the 911 operator, but the noise in the background, okay. >> 911. >> it may be both. i'm not sure. there is someone screaming outside. >> what's the address? >> 121123 blaine.
>> twin tree blaine. is this in sanford? >> yes. >> is it a male or female in. >> it sound like a male. >> you don't know why? >> i don't know why i don't know mp. send one quick. >> does he look hurt? >> i can't see him. i don't want to go out there. they're sending. >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> what is your phone number? >> is that the tape or very similar to the tape you listened to last week? >> yes, sir. >> do you have an opinion as to whose voice that is scream ng the background? >> yes, sir. >> based upon your knowledge of your conversation with george zimmerman and the life experience that you now brought to the jury, whose voice do you
9th of this year, correct? >> yes, sir. >> that sound about right? >> yes, sir. >> i think your wife was first or maybe you was first? >> any wife was first. >> as it should be? >> yes, sir. >> we took yours and it was very brief, correct? >> yes. >> you never mentioned anything about testifying about identifying the voice or did you? >> i don't believe i did, sir. i don't believe it was asked. as i recall everybody was hungry. >> you think it was short or you didn't mention anything about that. didn't i ask you what you would be testifying about? >> i don't believe -- i don't remember being asked if i was going to testify about it. at the time through this whole thing i didn't want anything to do with the tape. >> okay. what you're saying is after the deposition on may 9th, 2013, you said it was last saturday that you on purpose listened to the
tape, right? >> yes, sir. >> your honor i have an issue but i'll address that after we fini finish. after the deposition and between literally last saturday, we're talking about like on today's the 8th, to we're talking about the 6th is when you listened to the recording? >> yes, sir. it was saturday morning. >> we're talking about last saturday, literally. >> this last saturday. couple of days ago. >> my recollection in the deposition you had not listened to the recording or would testify about it? >> i may have heard parts of it but i generally try to -- i always tuned it out. i walked away from it. >> on purpose, i think you said? >> on purpose. it was distressing. >> two days ago you on purpose listened to it to see whether you could identify the voice and be able to testify in court,
correct? >> i listened to it very purposely in a quiet setting because i think i just needed to before i came here today. >> all right. i think you said you listened to it twice? >> yes, sir. >> why did you have to listen to it twice if the first time you knew it was george zimmerman's voice? >> i don't know. i just played it a second time. >> just to verify in your mind you could be sure you could come to court and say absolutely? >> no. it was an motional emotional experience for me. i don't know why i played it twice. >> you were in a room setting where nobody else was present? >> yes. >> i believe your wife testified
and you weren't in the courtroom. my question is prior to listening to that tape on saturday had you discussed it with your wife in terms of whether she listened to the tape at all. i'm not saying it was improper, i'm saying do you recall? >> not really. we've never really tried to discuss much of anything with this. >> okay. all right. you mentioned you had given money to the defense fund? >> yes, sir. >> i think it was $2500 at that time. >> i gave a check for $2500 for his defense. i gave $500 to his personal website. >> that was 3,000 and then after that you bought him suits? >> yes, sir. >> do you recall how much money? >> about $1700. >> that includes ties and shirts and all that other stuff? >> yes, sir. they were on sale. >> was that at joseph banks, do you want to plug where you
bought it? no. did you get a good deal? >> jyes, sir. >> you testified before because people need to appear a certain way, properly? >> yes, sir. shows respect for the system. >> you would agree there's a bias on your behalf of george zimmerman, correct because of your friendship? >> he is my very dear friend. i think of him as a son. >> you contributed money to help his cause? >> yes, sir. >> you also as you mentioned clothing, et cetera? >> yes, sir. >> is that it in terms of total. you said 3,000 and about $1700, that's about $4700 give our take a little? >> yes, sir. other than taking food to his home. >> other than that, i'm talking about monetary? >> monetarily that's it. >> then did you listen to any
other recordings specifically the recording where george zimmerman is speaking to the 911 nonemergency operator? >> i believe i heard part of that on the news. >> okay. was that recently or back in february or march or april of last year? >> that was a ways back because we've tried not to watch anything. >> on purpose? is that correct? >> yes. >> i know you're nodding your head we need it for the record. >> i know better too. >> you have heard parts of the nonemergency, only snippets? >> probably snippets. >> those snippets do you recall what was said in the parts you heard on the muse? >> not really, sir.
>> let me do -- i want to play a recording for you if i could. >> yes, sir. >> for the record that's state's exhibit 173. >> police department. >> we've had some break ins in my neighborhood and there's a real suspicious guy at retreat view circle. the best address i can give you is 111 retreat view circle. this guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something. it's raining and he's just walking around looking about. >> okay. is this guy -- >> do you recognize the voice? >> yes, sir. >> or one of the two voices?
>> yes, sir. >> one of them is george zimmerman? >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> he looks black. >> did you see what he was wearing? >> yeah, dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. he had jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. he's just staring. >> he's just walking around the area. >> look at the houses? >> so far is that a normal conversation you would have heard on a regular basis with mr. zimmerman, is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> now he's just staring at me. >> you said it's 111 retreat view or 111. >> that's the clubhouse. >> he's at the clubhouse now? >> now he's coming toward me. he's got his hand in his waistba waistband. he's a black male. >> how old would you say?
>> late teens. something's wrong with him. i don't know what his deal is. >> okay. let me know. we got them on the way. let me know if he does anything else. >> okay. >> did you hear that in. >> yes, sir. >> did you hear that language? do you want me to play it back? >> your honor, i'll object. it's a mischaracterization of the evidence. >> sustained. >> you want me to play it back for you?