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shout out goes to those pilots for their quick thinking in saving lives. you inside a 777 simulator to experience what crew members may have seen, heard and felt as their approach went terribly wrong. for the first time since their rescue, three young women are telling the world what they went through during that decade in captivity. >> >> we begin with the zimmerman trial. the judge planning to rule tomorrow morning on that video. the defense meantime saying it plans to rest tomorrow but not
before calling more witnesses to bolster its case that george zimmerman, while suffering a life threatening beating and crying for help, shot trayvon martin in self-defense. first, martin savidge gets up to date. >> reporter: dr. vincent demayo said the bullet hole in trayvon martin's clothing and body proved a key point, that it was martin who was on top of george zimmerman as they struggled. demayo, a gunshot expert, said he could tell it was martin on top of zimmerman because even though zimmerman's gun was touching martin's hoody, the hoody was not touching martin's skin. >> we know the clothing was two to four inches away is consistent with somebody leaning over the person doing the shooting, and that the clothing is two to four inches away. from the person firing.
>> reporter: he also countered the medical examiner's testimony for the prosecution who said martin could have survived and suffered up to ten minutes. >> he's going to be dead within one to three minutes after being shot in this case. >> reporter: finally, he testified that zimmerman's injuries fit his account, saying his review of photographs taken that night indicated zimmerman's head suffered at least six impacts. >> is this injury consistent with mr. zimmerman's head having impacted a sidewalk? >> yes. >> reporter: the prosecution jumped on a key question that the defense expert couldn't answer. >> you're not testifying as to who started what led up to the death of trayvon martin? >> that's correct, sir. >> and you're not saying who attacked who, whether it was george zimmerman who attacked
trayvon martin or whether it was trayvon martin who attacked george zimmerman, you can't say? >> that's correct, sir. >> in fact, you can't testify as to who threw the first punch. >> that's correct, sir. >> and you can't say whether it was trayvon martin defending himself or george zimmerman defending himself in terms of when this first started. >> when it first started, that's correct, sir. >> reporter: the prosecutor got the witness to admit the defense was paying demayo $400 an hour for his expertise. but demayo said the case didn't require a lot of his time. >> up to yesterday, $2400. this is not exactly a complicated case. >> reporter: the state was also to get the pathologist to say that trayvon martin could have been trying to move away just before the shot was fired. >> at that point, you don't know if trayvon martin was backing up, backing away in terms of providing an angle or whether he
was going forward, you can't say? >> all i said is it's consistent with his account, mr. zimmerman's account, that's all. >> it's also consistent with trayvon martin pulling back in terms of providing the same angle. >> told you that too. >> reporter: the last testimony of the day was from zimmerman's former neighbor, too ill to appear in person. she said she believes the voice screaming for help sounded like george zimmerman. >> based on the fact that i've only heard george's voice and it's a white male voice, i would say that it was his. >> and when you say you've heard him talk, tell us again about how long you've known him. >> by that time, it was 2 1/2 years. >> reporter: perhaps the most powerful statement made in court today didn't take place on the stand. but when mark o'mara said the defense planned to rest wednesday. martin savidge, cnn, sanford, florida.
>> want to dig deeper with our panelist. sunny hostin, marcia clark. and the defense table, danny savalos and mark geragos. and dr. lawrence kobalanski. mark, just about that neighbor who testified, do you think anybody buys that? if some neighbor of mine testified about what my voice sounds like when i'm screaming, how would a neighbor know this? >> you know, there's a more cynical view as to why they played that neighbor's video in court today. and i'm not going to inflame what is already an inflammatory situation. i don't think anybody is saying this is the ultimate in terms of a piece of evidence that they put on.
i have to say that i'm a little cynical about this. >> sunny, what about you? how do you think it played in the courtroom? does it make any sense to you? >> not really. it's sort of the law of diminishing returns now. when you have george zimmerman's mother and uncle saying those are his cries for help on that tape, i think that's okay. even if you have some close friends saying okay, you know, those were his cries. now you have everybody but the mailman saying those were his cries. i think, you know, the defense is in trouble now. because what was very effective at one point now is sort of like a joke. everyone in the courtroom and the courthouse is joking about it right now.
i think they've overstepped at this point. >> we were talking about this last night about overtry thing case. do you think that's an example of overtrying the case or are there other motives? >> it's always a danger when you overplay your hand. piling on with this last witness, which you've already made the point. it's really kind of obvious what they did with this witness, and you can really very much alienate your jury if they see you're playing your hand this way and manipulating them this way. i'm not sure it did more good than harm. >> let's talk about the medical examiner williams, the forensic witness for the defense. he was clearly a much more confident witness than the medical examiner who testified for the prosecution, who didn't seem to know much about the case and changed his opinions. i want to play some sound from what he said on the stand today. >> if you pulled my heart out now i could keep talking and
talking and talking for -- and just talking and talking and talking without a heart? >> that's right. >> okay. >> 15 seconds or so? >> right. it's between 10 and 15 seconds, it's dependent on the oxygen supply to the head. that's why some of the s.w.a.t. people will prefer shooting somebody in the head if it's a situation where the person has a gun on somebody else. >> now, each though my heart is gone, i would still feel pain or would i not? >> well, yeah, you would still feel pain. >> is this true? i find this fascinating that you can live for 15 seconds or speak for 15 seconds with your heart ripped out? >> well, when the heart stops beating, you have clinical death and you have a depletion of oxygen to the brain. but as he pointed out, there is a reserve of oxygen where the brain functions fairly well for about 15 or 20 seconds. thereafter, cells start to die by about five or six minutes,
the entire brain is dead, and the brain waves go flat. you're really dead legally. and so i think what he said was crucial, because we know that george zimmerman said that after he shot trayvon martin, trayvon martin said you got me. so he could speak. we also had to explain the reason why trayvon martin's arms were underneath, kind of clutching at his chest. he had to be able to move, so this would explain that. >> so danny, this bolsters obviously the defense's case, it verifies what george zimmerman's story is. >> of course. it's more than that. this is an example of a terrific pathologist who uses imagery to drive complex issues home. even though he says it's not a complex case, talking about the operations of the heart and how it affects the brain and how long you can live, he uses some
simple images, the idea of someone reaching into your heart and yanking it out. we can imagine that, and that drives it home. i think this underscores the importance of having an expert that not only knows the science but is able secondly to communicate it. if they can't communicate it, they're not worth what you pay them. >> mark, you used this guy on the stand in cases of your own. does the jury -- they got it out on evidence today that he's been paid some $2400. does the jury hold that against a witness? >> no, but i do. i've never gotten away with only paying him $2400. i can't remember the last defense expert that only charged $2400. no, i don't think they hold it against him, especially when you contrast it with the witness for the state who i'm sure is a very nice man but not the most
effective communicator. i think that the reason -- it's not the tall wagging the dog. they're not effective because they're a superstar. they achieve superstar status because they are effective in the way they communicate to jurors and to lay people. and that's what you want. the lawyers that are best, the people that are best in a courtroom are ones that can take what are seemingly complex concepts and distill them down. and he's clearly one of those guys that can do it. >> dr. kobalanski will be back later tonight. everyone else, stick around. we'll take you behind the scenes in the making of the re-enactment of the crime scene. the judge will determine on wednesday whether or not to allow this in. it's very controversial. it would be very important for the defense if it did get allowed in. i'll be tweeting tonight. also ahead, later that horrific train wreck in canada,
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again, the zimmerman trial going into extra hours tonight. the defense fighting to enter a commuter reenactment of the confrontation into evidence. the prosecution saying it would prejudice the jury. the judge promising to rule on it tomorrow morning, on wednesday morning. whatever the decision, the
video's technical sophistication is remarkable. in fact, it's straight out of hollywood. details from randi kaye. >> reporter: this is one picture of what might have happened in the moments before trayvon martin was killed. this 3-d computer animation of the confrontation between trayvon martin and george zimmerman. the re-enactment video comes from animation expert daniel shoemaker, a witness for the defense. his company, contrasts forensics, claims to be the only company in the united states with wireless motion capture technology for crime scene and accident reconstruction. he uses a motion capture suit to track the movements. on the company's youtube channel, we found this re-enactment from another chase. he reconstructed a poor quality security camera video showing a pedestrian hit by a vehicle. see how his wireless motion capture suit regards the person's movements at every location?
he uses what's called excelerometers. he used to use a tape measure, then lasers. now he creates a series of points at a scene, sometimes as many as 500, all in 3-d space. he says it's the most accurate reconstruction tool on the market. >> the laser follows me around. so it only takes one person to operate. >> reporter: in court, he told the judge how he created the model in this case and whether or not it matched the same conditions the night zimmerman killed martin. >> talk to me about the conditions, i assume it was filmed in the daytime. >> correct. >> i assume it wasn't raining. >> correct. >> the grass wasn't slick. >> correct. >> there weren't these other items of physical evidence out there? >> correct. >> reporter: he said he created the animation of the
confrontation by simply re-creating the witness statements that are not in dispute. >> the scenarios that can be created are consistent with testimony, witnesses and evidence at the scene. >> reporter: still, the prosecution argued against showing the animation to the jury, claiming it's an inaccurate depiction. the technology is also used by police agencies, even by the entertainment industry for animated movies like "avatar." >> the suit that i have was used in "avatar," "iron man," "x-men," and they use it for creating movement in the characters and it's also used in gaming. >> reporter: as we wait for the judge to rule on whether the animation can be shown to the jury, he says if it is rejected, it will be the first time in his 13 years doing this that his
animation re-creations were not allowed to be used. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> this will be a very important ruling for the defense and prosecution. let's go back to our panel. any of the four of you, any of you believe this judge is going to admit this into evidence? okay. >> the resounding silence. >> marcia clark, why not, just too prejudicial, too hollywood basically? >> no, not too hollywood, anderson. you have to have a certain level of accuracy and re-creation of the actual conditions. so as was pointed out in some of the questioning, it wasn't raining or nighttime. you didn't have other pieces of evidence that were present. to make it more probative, you have to show that kind of accuracy. i'm surprised maybe he's never been refused admission of this kind of re-enactment before, but
a criminal case standard is pretty high. >> danny, you think that's the case, he hasn't done it in a criminal case. in this video, you see trayvon martin hitting george zimmerman first. that's george zimmerman's side of the story. >> exactly. they're trying to admin this as substantive evidence. we can talk about "iron man" suits and video games, and i would agree if these two parties had been wearing these suits at the time of the incident, this would be admissible. but that's the problem. it's the underlying data being fed into this computer. it's based on statements, the data coming in is probably that's really what the prosecution's argument is. if it was merely just a demonstrative exit, the technology and science is good, but that's only good for "iron man," it's not good if the underlying data doesn't demonstrate what happened. >> are you surprised it has
gotten this far giving each side so much to discuss this and will wait fill tomorrow to rule on this? >> no, not at all. i agree -- my guess is, and i'm sure i'll get an e-mail from this gentleman tonight, but my guess is he's always had one of these in a civil case where you're fighting over money. having said that, i have seen and have been on the receiving end on the l.a. county d.a.'s office where they've had some not quite animated but in murder case where is they had somebody throwing a watermelon in their backyard to demonstrate how the murder took place and that has been admissible. i think the reason the judge is struggling with this is there is some case law which would
suggest that when the defense has a theory, they've got a re-creation of evidence, that they can get that in. and the problem is, how they have re-created it here. i think that's what she is struggling with. i think her honor is struggling with the idea of, well, even if you're basing it on what george zimmerman's account is, is the way that they've done it true to it like a hypothetical question, so to speak, or is it taking liberties? and she doesn't want to be in a position if they get a conviction and this goes to appeal and some justice rules you should have let that in, and therefore, we're going to reverse this unlikely conviction. >> they're also arguing about some texts or tweets that trayvon martin seemed to have a conversation indicating he knew how to fight or had been in fights. the prosecution is saying is look, this is prejudicial. you're basically trying to tarnish the memory of trayvon
martin. the defense is saying no, this goes to whether or not he knew how to fight, he knew how to throw a punch. >> yeah, this is like the marathon hearing day. because they've been at this for quite some time. i'm sure everyone is exhausted. this is an issue that has been looming for quite a while. we heard about these pictures of trayvon martin holding a gun, perhaps conducting some sort of transaction to buy a gun. i don't know that this type of evidence comes in. if the judge gave any indication of where she was leaning pretrial, she said no, you're
not going to talk about this in opening. now they're revisiting it. they would like to get this information in, but it's not relevant. even if it is, it's more prejudicial than probative and it's just speculative. >> sunny? >> yes, mark? >> i didn't hear the argument -- the defense -- did the defense argue for this admission that once the prosecution brought up the mma fighting in the records, that this puts that on to the table? was that the defense argument? >> the argument that was just made, and i know, sunny, you're outside the court, but while we've been discussing it, i just got this as a tweet. one of the arguments the defense was making, i don't know whether they specifically referenced the mma thing, but they said it's not about reputation, it's about physical capabilities and martin's knowledge of fighting. there was a tweet to somebody saying to trayvon martin, when are you going to teach me to
fight? the defense saying that's an indication he knew how to fight and had been discussing it. >> i can see where the defense would be arguing, look, there's been testimony about somebody on testimony mma style, a pound and ground and things of that nature, and the prosecution got in the references and the records of mma fighting which caused the trainer to come in yesterday. her honor may struggle with this and she may do a solomon-like thing and eliminate the animation and say i'm going to take that away but let you have the tweets. >> everybody, stay with us. we'll examine the charge against george zimmerman. obviously he's charged with second degree murder, but there is another option. prosecutors could ask the jury to consider a lesser charge. we'll talk about the likelihood of that. and investigators interview the pilots for the asiana airlines crash. we know the plane was flying too slowly.
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there's been a lot of talk whether george zimmerman was overcharged when the decision came he would face second degree murder. the prosecution still has the option to go for a lesser charge if the judge allows it. zimmerman, if he is convicted of a lesser charge, still could face decades in jail. ashleigh banfield investigates. >> we're on the record, state versus george zimmerman. >> reporter: the prosecution
wants to see george zimmerman behind bars for the rest of his life. but to do so, they need to get a second degree murder conviction. and to do that, the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that zimmerman intended to kill trayvon martin out of hatred. >> trayvon martin was murdered. in the back of two sets of two town homes. there's no street lighting back there. there's no pole lights. there were one or two porch lights on. >> george zimmerman is not guilty of murder. he shot trayvon martin in self-defense after being viciously attacked. >> reporter: if the prosecutors see their case slipping away, there the another option that
could still put zimmerman behind bars for years. if requested, and allowed by the judge, the prosecutors can ask the jury to consider lesser charges, like aggravated assault, which still carries the potential for decades in prison, due to a florida state statute called the 10-20 life law. it's dubbed the "use a gun and you're done" law after a popular campaign that newly elected governor jeb bush championed and signed into law back in 1999. it basically means that with certain crimes in the state of florida, if you use a gun, you'll face enhanced time in prison or mandatory minimum sentences. like 10 years for showing a gun. 20 years for firing it. and 25 to life if you injure or kill someone. california is the only other state to have this specific law, but a lot of other states have what they call gun enhancement laws on the books. they bump up the maximum time you might spend in prison. but they argue a judge is better equipped to use his or her discretion when assigning prison
time than a legislature. as for the zimmerman case, many legal experts say the prosecutors may have to include those lesser charges for the jury to consider. maybe like manslaughter, which in this case carries a maximum sentence of 15 years. unless, of course, a gun is used. and then that time is doubled. in the end, the prosecution's level of confidence will likely determine just what charges they'll go after. ashleigh banfield, cnn, florida. >> our panel joins us again. sunny hostin, marcia clark, danny savalos and mark geragos. sunny, what do you think the chances are that the jury will be instructed in an opt for lesser charges? >> i think there's no question the jury will be charged on second murder and manslaughter. that's a lesser included offense. the way i read the statute, it has to be done.
and i suspect that the government is going to request it. there's evidence to support manslaughter. this jury will have a choice of what to convict george zimmerman on, if they're going to convict him at all. >> and that's how it goes, it's up to the jury, they can go for second degree murder or manslaughter. >> exactly. it's very, very common. manslaughter is what is called a lesser included offense within second degree murder and it's a very rare case when the manslaughter instruction is not given when you have a murder charge like this and the jury makes the call. >> but you think that in the summation by the prosecution that once they're allowed to give their version of events and tie all the pieces together, you think they may still be able to make a second degree murder case? >> it could happen, anderson. we feel the way we feel.
but remember it's an ongoing moving thing. we dissect what happened the day before, the hour before. but we have forgotten many of the inconsistent statements. there's a great deal that the prosecution has shop but has been forgotten because we've been focused on what's been happening up to the minute. when the prosecutor stands up and puts it all together, you may see a very much more compelling picture, more indicative of a second degree murder than a manslaughter. >> from the defense's perspective, does it make all that much difference? as we just saw in that piece, if a jury acquits him of second degree murder, but convicts him of manslaughter. >> it's ironic, because in a lot of cases it's the defense that wants the lesser included. here in california, remember how this works, what's explained to the jury is first you have to decide the murder charge. if you find not guilty on the murder, then you work down to the manslaughter. basically the difference between the two is whether or not there's malice. so all of this talk about ill
will and intent and everything else is for the jury to decide. if they can't find malice, then they work down. the irony is normally the defense would want the lesser because it's punishable by much less or it does not have what is the l. next to it for life. here you have that. so the defense is going to be in the position of saying no, we want all or nothing. the judge is going to give the lesser included, it's a no-brainer, so to speak. and then it's going to be up to the jury to decide whether once they make the decision, if they find not guilty on the murder, then they have to move to the manslaughter and find not guilty there and then boom, you're done. >> danny, what school of thought are you of? do you believe it's a mistake for the prosecutor to overcharge
if it turns out that second degree murder is not what they go for or is that a smart thing for the prosecutor? >> i don't think it's a mistake. i think there are many critics who say this is a routine practice to overcharge. but when you overcharge, you hold yourself to a higher burden. commentator said the same thing about the casey anthony case. it's these cases that people perceive as overcharged. there is that chance by gambling and overcharging, you may sour a jury to that lesser included offense that you could have gotten away with the first time. critics say it's a tool. if you overcharge, then you can get the defendant to come to the table and say look, if your knees are rattling about a second degree murder charge, let's talk manslaughter. if your client is in custody, maybe they're more willing to think about it. up next, what investigators are focusing on as they try to determine the cause of that asiana airways crash. and the heroism of one of the flight attendants. and police have found evidence that a criminal act may
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breaking news tonight in canada. investigators say there's evidence of criminal tampering aboard a train that derailed and exploded over the weekend. but police in quebec have not revealed that evidence. they were checking to see if the brakes were disabled. no one was at the controls at the time. it was loaded with crude oil at
the time it derailed and wiped out part of a town. 15 people were killed, 35 others are missing. firefighters may have shut down an engine that powers the brakes when a fire broke out aboard the train. in san francisco, investigators appear to be making progress in determines what caused that jet to crash on saturday, killing two passengers. late this afternoon, the head of the national transportation safety board released new details of the investigation. the pilot actually in the driver's seat was still training to fly the boeing 777 aircraft, although two experienced pilots were in the cockpit with him. the key points of investigation, the speed of the jet and pilot
performance. >> oh, my god! >> reporter: investigators gathering perhaps the most crucial evidence in their investigation. interviews with the pilots of the plane. >> all of the crew members have been very cooperative and forthright with our team. >> reporter: it's clear the plane was flying too slowly. three seconds before the crash, it was coming in another 103 knots. it needed to be at 137 knots to land safely. why was the plane so slow in initial reviews of the data recorders don't appear to show any mechanical problems with the aircraft before the crash. the pilots told investigators they set the plane's auto throttle to maintain descent speed. investigators will now determine if it was set properly. >> we are now going to be looking at flight data recorder information to validate parameters associated with the auto pilot and automation, things like the auto throttles. we need to work to understand what the different modes are, what can be selected and what the crew understood. >> reporter: what the crew told investigators they did understand too late was that the aircraft was way too low and
slow. >> we have a flying pilot, and we have two other pilots that are in the cockpit and they have a monitoring function. one of the very critical things that needs to be monitored on an approach to landing is speed. so we need to understand what was going on in the cockpit and also what was going on with the aircraft. >> reporter: the asiana flight crew was not tested for drugs or alcohol after the crash. as a u.s. flight crew would have been. the ntsb also confirmed that at least one emergency chute inflated inside the plane. the ceo of asiana airlines said he does not believe the plane itself was faulty. but did not suggest the pilots were at fault, either. the ntsb will interview the entire asiana crew, including the flight attendants, credited with helping to save lives after the crash. two flight attendants were ejected right after the first impact. this flight attendant was the last person to leave the aircraft and carried injured
passengers, some twice her size on her back to safety, even though she herself was injured with a fractured tailbone. she said she didn't even realize her injuries. >> dan simon joins us now. that's incredible. i understand she revealed information about conversations she had with a pilot after the crash. what did she say? >> reporter: that's right. she is a veteran flight attendant. she had been with this airline for nearly two decades. the plane has just crashed. he knocks on the door and checks to see if the pilots are okay after the crash. she asks if she should begin the evacuation procedures and initially she is told no. >> dan simon, thanks. the investigation into what caused the crash is going to be a long time before they reach their conclusion. but tonight we wanted to get an
idea of what it was like inside the cockpit as the crew was approaching san francisco airport on saturday. gary tuchman takes a look. >> reporter: we are flying into san francisco international airport. >> here we are, approaching san francisco international's runway 28-left. just like the asiana 214 crew was doing. >> reporter: we're flighting on a flight simulator as the california airways training facility in hayward, california. >> we're coming in here, just like the crew did at 137 knots, which is exactly what their view out of the window would have looked like on that day flying the 777. >> reporter: on this day, i'm the co-pilot. >> at a certain point, the pilot disconnects the auto pilot. it allows the crew to continue to maintain proficiency in flying the airplane as opposed to auto pilot operation. >> reporter: but it can be done? >> absolutely. if you wanted to, this airplane
would land itself and stop without you touching a button. >> reporter: an electronic slide slope was out of commission on runway 28-left. but forward lights on the side of the runway give you guidance. when two are red, two are white, your altitude is perfect. >> if i see all red, i'm too low. all white, i'm too high. if i see that, i'm going to correct that. in addition to that, you as my co-pilot will announce that you're too low or too high. >> reporter: we continue to descend. >> we're slightly low. i'm going to correct. now we have our two reds and two whites. we're coming in nicely and we're slightly high. i'm going to reduce power to compensate. we begin to bring the nose of
the airplane back and we touchdown. >> reporter: a successful and typical landing. now it's time for a much different landing. now the airplane is a little low. look at the air speed. it's dropping below the target value. >> reporter: we're dropping rapidly under 137 knots or 157 miles per hour, the target speed of a 777 landing. but we now know it was going 40 miles an hour slower at that point and for some reason didn't speed up. >> right now my chance to correct the problem by adding full power. i'm very low. right now i should be aborting the landing. >> reporter: you have a lot of time to do it. >> i have a lot of time right here to fix the problem and avoid the crash.
>> reporter: now we're at 103. >> now it's too late. i add power, but boom, we hit the sea wall and we crash and we spin around and very bad things happen. as you see, i had plenty of time to abort the landing and go around and try again in a more safe fashion. >> reporter: an unexplainable accident to this flight instructor and so many others. >> it's interesting to see how much time they would have had to actually correct the problem, with those lighting blinking telling them thinks weren't going right. how off do pilots use autopilot to land the plane? >> reporter: very common, anderson. most modern passenger jets have the autopilot and it's mandated that if the weather is bad, that they have to use the autopilot. i have a friend who currently flies the 777. he says when there is visual flying, he always lands the plane himself. but if he wanted to, he could
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for the first time we're hearing from the three women kidnapped and held captive in cleveland for 11 years. the abuse they suffered at the hands of ariel castro, who now faces 329 counts. as for the alleged victims, as they address the world for the first time, their faces are brave, their words full of gratitude. >> reporter: in a four-minute youtube video, the three women are speaking publicly for the first time to say simply thanks. >> i want to thank everyone who has helped me and my family through this entire ordeal. everyone who has been there to support us, it's been a blessing to have such an outpouring of love and kindness. >> thank you for the support. thank you, everyone, for your love, support and donations. we helped me build a brand new life. >> reporter: more than $1 million has been donated to the courage fund to help the women heal after abuse and captive by ariel astro. he is accused of beating and starving them. yet in the video last week, the women seemed upbeat and not bitter. >> i'm getting stronger each day and i ask that everyone continue
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with that being said, we need to take a leap of faith and know that god is in control. we have been hurt by people, but we need to rely on god as being the judge. >> reporter: they were once nope only as silent victims. now amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight want the world to know they have a voice and have reclaimed their lives. >> i'm looking forward to my brand new life. thank you. >> reporter: pamela brown, cnn, new york. >> we wish them the best. let's get caught up with some other stories with randi kaye. osama bin laden liked to wear a cowboy hat to avoid being identified by satellite and he wasn't recognized when police pulled over his car because he shaved his beard. these details are in a report list from a pakistani commission. mixed reports about the status of edward snowden. wikileaks, which is assisting
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