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this is cnn news room. i'm suzanne malveaux. it's judgment day for george zimmerman. the court has recessed moments ago. they're in a lunch break. when the jurors return the judge will give them their instructions. after that the wait is on as the six-woman jury decides zimmerman's fate for the shooting death of unarmed teenager of trayvon martin. we'll take you live back to that sanford, florida courtroom. attorneys from both sides delivered their final arguments. you had lead defense attorney mark o'mara setting out to convince the jury of what he called zimmerman's absolute innocence. then john guy delivered the rebuttal insisting that trayvon martin was the one who feared for his life on that faithful day. george howell is outside the courthouse in sanford, florida.
it's been amazing trial. the last person the jurors heard from was the prosecutor. let's start off with him. this is someone who said that child had every right to be there on that street and then a strange man following him first by car then by foot. how did people respond? what do you make of the argument? >> reporter: it seemed to be in every case. it was an appeal to emotion. he asked what was in the heart of george zimmerman? what was in the heart of trayvon martin? he mentioned that child. was there fear in that child's heart. take a listen. >> was that child not in fear when he was running from that defendant? isn't that every child's worst
nightmare to be followed on the way home in the dark by a stranger. isn't that every child's worse fear? that was trayvon martin's last emotion. >> reporter: in every angle and every case of his argument from what we heard it seemed to be an emotional appeal. it was more of an explanation from mark o'mara. it started as a legal lesson explaining what it takes to find a person guilty of a crime and not guilty. he showed charts. he showed that video reenactment he wanted to have admitted as evidence but used as a demonstrative tool. he tried to explain it's not his burden to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
it's just his burden to show reasonable doubt. in this case he was able to show his client was innocent. listen to what he had to say in court. >> trayvon martin, four minutes doing something. we don't know. we really don't. we know he's on the phone. we know he's talking. we know what rachel jenteel said he was saying. they get to talk stupidly if they want. i'm okay with that. i'm okay with rachel being 16 or 18 or whatever. who cares. >> reporter: i was in this courtroom listening during that time, listening as mark o'mara showed the charts and explained to the witnesses. he went witness by witness and described the state's witness and described the defense witnesses. the jurors were paying close attention. they were very much engaged through this process today.
you saw some taking notes. others would look up. they wanted to make sure they took all this in before they make their decision. i want to talk about some things outside the courtroom. there's no problems or situations outside. i did hear a couple of offers talking about mma style. you get a sense they are dialed into this. when you go into the courtroom security is tight. you see more officers out there. they are checking people who go upstairs. you have to have a media badge to get inside that room. today it's even more intense, more scrutiny of people going into that courtroom. they are watching every angle. >> there's a lot of attention around which way this verdict will go and how people will respond. i want to bring our legal analyst. we had mark o'mara spending more than three hours delivering his closing and john guy had a
rebuttal. we have faith jenkins and mark nejame. the defense started with this knock-knock joke. it fell flat. now he says this is all about self-defense. was he convincing? >> very good but i think the defense should have focused on a couple of key points. one of them is manslaughter. they focused a lot on second-degree murder and that's important but thaifr got to focus, he needed to focus on manslaughter because that's going to be the probability that the jury comes back with anything. i think that needed to be hammered a little bit more. i also think that a little bit of passion on some of the key points that he wanted to make. he was very folksy. i thought it was excellent with the pictures of the witnesses because it allowed people to be talked about who the jurors
might have forgotteforgotten. i think he did a good job. i'm concerned there wasn't enough focus on the manslaughter which is where the concern needs to be for the defense. >> faith, how do you think this will play with a jury of six women when you had john guy talking about the greatest fear that a child has is being followed, going home, being followed by a stranger in the dark. i imagine he's probably looking to those jurors who are mothers and thinking this is something that they can relate to. >> that's exactly right. as a mother you expect your child to be able to walk to the store and by snacks and make it home without being shot and killed. that's going to resonate with these mothers. the emotion in this case is all on one side and john guy brought that out today. of course, there are unanswered questions. he said it directly. we can't tell you exactly what
happened in that altercation when trayvon martin and george zimmerman met but here is what we can tell. george zimmerman followed him. he called him these names. he didn't know him. all these other incidents happened and he was frustrated and he said they always get away. then guess what, this one did not get away because he shot and killed him. john guy made those points and he made them well. >> i want us to play what john guy said something that resonated. listen to this and mark i'll get your reaction on the other end. >> trayvon martin may not have the defendant's blood on his hands, but george zimmerman will forever have trayvon martin's blood on his forever. >> weigh in mark. that was a pretty powerful moment. >> i think he's got a great command of the words and of the english language and i think he was an excellent speaker. no question about it.
a plus as far as his opening and his final summation. with all that said i think it's a bit patronizing to the women on this jury. fathers are equally concerned about their children not being able to make it home. of course he's playing the maternal instincts but where does that play to the issue of reasonable doubt? where are the facts? i think this case is riddled with reasonable doubt and it's unpatronizing to think they're unthinking and are only emotional. of course they'll be em pathetic and have some sympathy and empat empathy. without question but to suggest they are brainless and not listen to the facts because they are women and going to be simply only dealing on motion is really an insult. these jurors who happen to be six women will listen to the facts. they'll factor in the emotional aspect but they will make a determination. if they follow the facts there's
reasonable doubt riddled throughout this case. >> i haven't heard anybody suggest they are brainless. have do you heard that faith? >> no. there is an emotional aspect to this case. when you have a 17-year-old with snacks with no gun walking home minding his own business and he ends up dead of course there's e emotional aspect. he just turned 17 three weeks prior to being killed. one of the people is dead. he's not here to tell his side of the story. of course there will be unanswered questions. the prosecutor said don't reward this defendant for killing the only other eyewitness to this encounter. look at the evidence. yes you can draw inferences here from what we know and the prosecutor is asking the jurors to draw a conclusion. >> we have to take a quick break. we'll bring you back because we have a lot to talk about. we're watching and waiting.
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neighborhood watch coordinator and violate its corner stone principle and expect you to absolve him of his guilt. >> that was prosecutor john guy. weigh into that. that was one of the main issues from the very beginning is whether or not he had any right to follow, to pursue or defend himself as some have suggested he was doing in this case. >> that's where the prosecution has to go because the reality is their position is that but for him leaving the car, none of this would have happened and that started this whole process into motion. that's where the blame needs to lie. what the defense had to do is segregate that. if somebody didn't get up in this morning all of this could be set into motion. the issue is really did the
state prove that george zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation and did they prove he was unreasonable in his belief he was facing death or great bodily harm. did they prove that through the evidence? what i see is what concerns me the greatest and defense should have focused on it more is the state changed up its game plan the day before their closing. from the beginning on their opening statement they said george zimmerman was atop trayvon martin and by their demonstration with the dummies they showed not even that scenario. they showed trayvon martin on top of zimmerman. they all but conceded that point. when you have to change up your game plan 90% through the trial you have troubles. >> do you think the prosecution has troubles? there are a couple of things but i'll ask you that first. >> well, they've had trouble from the beginning because it's a difficult case.
it's an uphill battle when the only living eyewitness is now george zimmerman. that was a great point that the prosecutor made about neighborhood watch. what have we heard from the witness who testified. you use your ears and eyes. your reaears and eyes. there's this notion he had the authority and right to stop and question trayvon martin. trayvon martin had ever right to be where he was walking where he was. he does not have to answer to george zimmerman. he's not a police officer. he's not a person who in a position of authority who can stop trayvon martin. he had every right to be here and not answer a single question he asked. >> we agree with that that wasn't the issue. we agree with that. that's not the issue. that's a red herring you're throwing out. nobody is saying trayvon martin -- >> it has a lot to do with it, mark. >> he had a right to go to the store and a right not to be killed. >> george zimmerman didn't think
so. >> what happens -- >> mark that's a clear issue in this case. >> i'm not dealing emotionally. i'm dealing with the facts. did the state prove beyond a reasonable doubt what happened concerning that initial confrontation. what i'm talking about is legally and not morally, legally, did the state prove beyond a reasonable doubt that trayvon martin was attacked by george zimmerman? did they prove that george zimmerman was not in fear of death or great bodily harm. my answer is they didn't prove it. >> faith jump in here. i want you to button this up and tell us as well what we expect from these jurors. it's six women, five of the six who are mothers. >> we can expect them to listen to the law and the jury instructions and decide the case based on the facts and the law. they're not going to look just
at, i think what the defense, wants them to look at, that encounter, that altercation. they're going to take into account the entire narrative of what happened and mark, you and i disagree on this because the fact george zimmerman was neighborhood watch and never identified himself and was carrying the loading gun, he knew he had the gun, he already called the police. he had the power behind him and the inference is he had the incentury tisecentive and motivm based on everything in calls when he saw the young man. >> one last point. one of the things mark o'mara re made a point is that following someone is not illegal. that was an important point to make here. whether or not trayvon martin was essentially being hunted down. what was the significance that he was able to get that in and
make that point? >> it's what we've been talking about. it's not illegal to follow somebody. i'm not talking with a civil lawsuit but criminally we ask people to keep an eye on their neighbors. we asked people look what happened in cleveland with people call in. we want people to do that. did he go too far? that's not the discussion i'm having. that's for a civil trial. he's allowed legally to do what he did. now, with that said that's why the defense brought up what did trayvon martin do for those four minutes? it's beyond a tragedy that a 17-year-old kid is dead. it truly is. i'm giving you a legal analysis saying did the state prove what all the emotions are screaming to? i don't see where they brought out the facts that they did. >> we'll bring you back to talk
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world. education is the only solution. education first. >> pretty amazing young woman. after the shooting she was flown to britain for treatment and she and her family lives in birmingh birmingham. that's where she is back in school. elliot spitzer said he's passed a big run. he's submitted more than 27,000 signatures to the city's board of elections. that's about seven times the number necessary to get on the ballot. he said he's optimistic that the public will hear his case as he tries to get back into public office. >> just as i would never predict a jury verdict, i don't want to predict what the public will do. if the public is willing, i want to serve. that's the most i can serve.
if i get that opportunity i'll be happy. >> spitzer was governor in 2008 when he was caught up in a prostitution scandal. one poll shows him leading a democratic challenger. day after the stock market hit new highs, investors showing more caution. on wall street you're taking a look at this. the dow s&p 500 hit a record closing highs. that was yesterday. not so much today. the nasdaq hit its highest level in more than a decade. plenty of compelling testimony in the george zimmerman trial but certain witnesses stood out and provided key moments for the prosecution and the defense. watch. >> reporter: 56 witnesses testified in the george zimmerman trial. there was never any doubt that
zimmerman killed trayvon martin. the job for zimmerman's lawyers to show he pulled the trigger in self-defense. to do that they tore into some of the state's witnesses trying to discredit them or turn their arguments around to suit the defense. the first target wads the prosecution's star witness. >> describing the person what made you think it was racial? >> yes. >> that's because he described him as a creepy cracker? >> yes. >> it was racial but it was because trayvon martin put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy. [ expletive ] cracker is racial comment? >> no. >> reporter: then there was zimmerman's story that trayvon beat him up backed up by the testimony from a neighbor. >> what did you notice about the
condition of his jacket? >> the back was wetter than the front of it. it was also covered in grass. >> do you recall the conditn of his pants? >> vaguely. >> you said they were blue jeans? >> yes, sir. >> anything else about the condition of his pants? >> again the back was wetter than the front. >> you mentioned the second position or the change of position they were horizontal. at that point it was two individuals the same people? >> yes. >> okay. in terms of describing the individuals were you able to describe their faces or anything or just clothing descriptions? >> going back to when they were vertical i told tell the person on the bottom had a lighter skin color. >> reporter: george zimmerman's teacher said he knew about
florida stand your ground law contradicting previous statements but he presented a scenario that was more favorable to zimmerman's defense. >> someone feel they were being threatened and they countered that threat with a force that was disproportionate to the force that was directed towards them. that would be defense claim >> even under that scenario the person that may have started it with some lower level of force and the table turns on them and there's great level of force, a disproportionate level they have the right to defend themselves. >> reporter: did the defense strategy work? we shall know soon enough. don lemon, cnn, sanford, florida. >> we will know soon enough. the jurors are expected to be back in the courtroom. that's when they will get the instructions from the judge and begin their deliberations process. it could take hours or days.
the six women jury expected to start dleliberations. they're in a recess. we expect them momentarily. it's said to resume minutes from now. i want to go back live to sanford, florida. the judge will give the final jury their instructions and while we wait, of course, they will decide the fate of zimmerman in the shooting of r trayvon martin. let's bring in our legal analysts. sunny hostin, mark nejame. sunny, you were inside the courtroom. it was explosive on both sides very powerful arguments. we heard from defense attorney in the closing argument and the prosecutor, john guy, deliver the rebuttal point by point. tell us how the jurors responded to both of these men. >> having just left the courtroom and listening to john guy's rebuttal, he had them at
seen. they call them the cloerz. those attorneys that are chosen to close the prosecution's case. he was clearly the closer. >> before we go on to the other side,'s listen. i want our audience child had et to be where he was. that child had every right to do what he was doing walking home. that child had every right to be afraid of a strange man following him, first in his car and then on foot. did that child not have the right to defend himself from
you get to stop. you really do. why? because self-defense is a defense to everything. to littering, to speeding, to battery. if it mattered, to grand theft, to assault, to manslaughter, to second-degree. >> sunny, that was their case. he said this was an easy decision for the jurors because of the self-defense and the reasonable doubt here that they are stressing. do you think there's a point here that the prosecution has been able to open up that reasonable doubt? >> i didn't find the defense closing argument persuasive. mark o'mara is a brilliant attorney. he's an excellent attorney, but i don't think he had enough to work with. the bottom line is this is not a question of who done it.
it's why he did it. i don't think that is the benefit of a reasonable doubt. reasonable doubt arguments work really well when it's a who done it. you can't be sure this person did it. you can't be sure ladies and gentlemen because the eyewitnesss aren't being truthful or he's got great alibi. this is case of we know he did it. it's whether it was okay he did it. in those types of cases reasonable doubt argument are not as persuasive. i think the defense needed a bit more. the defense really tried to have it both ways. he tried to explain to the jury that they really shouldn't make assumptions and they shouldn't use their common sense, that they should instead look at what was before them without the prism of their experience which is not what the judge will instruct them to do but then they ask them to make a lot of
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has the nation awaiting a verdict in the trial of george zimmerman african-american leaders are calling for calm. the former neighborhood watch volunteer is accused of second degree murder in the death of black teen trayvon martin. police in sanford, florida, are prepared whatever the outcome. >> reporter: as the george zimmerman trial draws to a close, authorities are on alert.
>> we'll be prepared to deal with issues as they arise. >> sanford, florida, police chief cecis smith says his department has been in contact with state and federal law enforcement. detames of their plans are not being disclosed. do you get a sense of what it's going to be like here once there's a verdict? >> when you look around the streets now you see people riding bikes, it's nice and peaceful. this is what it's been for the past, i'm going to say 12 months. >> reporter: that's how they want it to stay. some are using social media to call for violent protests if zimmerman is acquitted. >> there's a great deal of chatter that's out there. the interesting part is that with social media now, you can be anywhere and do anything and believe that people aren't watching or tracking what you're doing. >> reporter: authorities are taking notice and community leaders are speaking out. the president of the seminole county naacp says no protests are planned. he released a statement saying in part, remain calm and peaceful. because we definitely are advocating nonviolence throughout the united states. not just here in sanford.
whatever the outcome is, accept the verdict. on a national level, african-american leaders also are calling for peace. >> whatever the outcome, there should be no gloating, and there should be no violence. >> reporter: back in florida, sanford's top cop is eager to see the end of a trial he's been closely following. do you think it's been fair? >> you know, it's the judicial system. we hope that there's always going to be a fair trial. >> police in south florida joined a group of young people to release this public service announcement urging for calm. take a listen. >> raise your voice. >> and not your hands. >> you need to stand together as one. no cuffs. no guns. >> let's give violence a rest. because we could easily end up arrested. >> i know your patience will be tested but. >> law enforcement has your back. >> back up and choose not to act up. >> we've heard closing arguments. we're now waiting for the judge to instruct the jury in the
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the other. please don't go off focus here. >> no, no, no. >> don't no, no, no me either. >> reporter: her no nonsense style might be a turnoff to some. to cnn legal analyst mark nejame who's presented cases before judge nelson, it's a breath of fresh air. >> this case could have easily unraveled, imploded. the judge is going to have no part of it. she's going to let everyone know who's in charge. it's going to be her. >> judge nelson wasn't originally chosen to hear the case. she replaced another judge who the defense claimed had a bias against zimmerman. she's been serving on the bench in florida's 18th judicial circuit since 1999. before that she practiced law in orlando. she earned her law degree from the south texas college of law. nejame says judge nelson tends to agree more with the state which is not uncommon for a judge. something on display as she clashed with defense attorney don west over jury instructions. >> i am not giving that
instruction. >> that's an error by not instructing this jury properly on the law. >> you continually disagree with this court every time i make a ruling. if i have made a mistake in this case, you will appeal. this is my ruling on this issue. >> reporter: but it was this moment after a hearing late into the night that will forever be cemented in trial watchers' minds. >> i'm not physically able to keep up this pace at this moment. it's 10:00 at night. we started this morning. every day. weekends, depositions at night. >> reporter: she simply decided it was time to go. she may not be warm and fuzzy, but judge deborah nelson is always on her game. >> when there is a difficult argument she said i'm going to go study it. that night she did or weekend she did and she came to court prepared. >> reporter: prepared and ready to rule. as she thought the law dictated.
randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> the jury expected to arrive momentarily after their recess. they'll get instructions from the judge and start the deliberations. in the meantime i'll hand it over to my colleague and friend brianna keilar who takes it from here. have a good weekend. >> you too, suzanne. was it murder or self-defense? that is what a jury of six women will decide very soon after a judge gives them instructions on the charges against george zimmerman. i am brianna keilar, as you heard suzanne say. any moment you will hear those instructions so i want to bring in our expert legal panel now. sunny hostin, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. she was in the courtroom today in sanford, florida. faith jenkins, a prosecutor. trent copeland, a criminal defense attorney. of course, don lemon also joining us from florida. you know, sunny, i want to ask you first. because you were theren