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the nation, people vowed to fight to honor the fallen teen. others rallied to show support for george zimmerman. trayvon martin's family tried to heal going to church. the pastors mentioned the martins in sermons. meanwhile, george zimmerman is enjoying a first full day of freedom out of the spotlight. we have not seen him since he walked out of court last night. his lawyer said he is afraid for his life. when's next for george zimmerman? that's yet to be seen. president obama is weighing in on the zimmerman trial verdict the white house issued a statement just a few hours ago. here's what it says. the president says that the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy. not just for his family or for any one community but for america. i know this case has elicited strong passions and in the wake of the verdict i know those passions may be running even higher but we are a nation of laws and a jury has spoken. i now ask every american to respect the call for calm
reflection from two parents who lost their young son. and as we do, we should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to widen the circle of compassion and understanding in our own communities. we should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can do to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis. we should ask ourselves as individuals and as a society how we can prevent future tragedies like this. as citizens, that's a job for all of us. that's the way to honor trayvon martin. so despite the not guilty verdict, the nas's oldest civil rights association wants to keep the fight going against george zimmerman. ben jealous, head of the naacp is calling on the justice department to launch a civil rights investigation and they got a response that brought down the website briefly. this morning, on cnn's "state of the union," ben jealous spoke of
patience. >> it's important. just as we all put our faith in this justice system here in florida and in the jury, that we let the justice system run its course and the reality is in these type of cases with serious questions, we know there will be a state phase. there will be a civil phase. almost assuredly and then there will be a federal civil rights phase and we are putting our faith in that system. >> the department of justice says it is still looking at the evidence in this case. >> so let's head to washington now and check in with renee marsh. president obama is urging very measured words today using i should say very measured words today and actually commended -- commented on the trayvon martin case before, hasn't he? >> yeah, absolutely, don. at first, the administration told cnn that the president would not comment on the zimmerman case but a change of heart and received that statement today. but the last time the president
spoke about this case, he received quite a bit of pushback from people saying that the comments created a bit of a divide. here's the statement that we are talking about. >> if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. a and, you know, i think they are right to expect that all of us as americans are going to take this with the seriousness that it deserves and we'll get to the bottom to exactly what happened. >> all right. well, the president's approach different this time in that he is not speaking to the cameras about this case. and we likely will only get this statement that you read at the top there, don. during the trial, the president did not weigh in and when the administration was asked to respond to those calls for federal charges to be filed against zimmerman, all questions were directed to the department of justice so we can see that the administration seems to be
distancing themselves a bit and focusing more on the larger conversation. within his statement there, you saw that the president said that we should ask ourselves, are we doing all that we can do to widen the circle of passion and compassion in our own community and see the approach slightly different coming here from the president. >> renee, a question about the justice department getting involved. we heard from ben jealous. any indication which way they might go on this? >> well, we do know that the justice department is responding today and they say that right now what they're doing is looking at all of the evidence. the evidence that they've collected, also the fbi, also the evidence that came out in the state trial, as well. so, they haven't made any determination but we do know that they know that this call for filing a federal charges is out there. they do know that they have had an open case as far as the
zimmerman trial. they had it open looking at possible charges for quite sometime now. now, we just wait and see which way the justice department will go. don? >> all right. renee marsh, thank you very much. we appreciate that. we have been talking about protests happening in florida and -- not just in florida. acquittal of george zimmerman sparked rallies and protests all across the country. >> not one more. not one more. not one more. >> that was the scene in chicago. demonstrators taking the street shouting. many held pictures of tray skron martin as they marched and a dozen people gathered in downtown dallas following the verdict saying no justice, no peace. not all the protests were peaceful. this one took place in oakland, california. protesters smashed in the windows of a transit police car in the street. well, church leaders across the country pushing for peace.
many of them changed their sunday smons after this zimmerman verdict and john zarrella went to antioch missionary baptist church in miami gardens earlier today and a church that trayvon martin's mother usually attends. how was service there this morning? >> reporter: don, in fact, this whole area of miami gardens where trayvon grew up, his family, tracy martin, sabrina fulton, they live in the miami gardens area and perhaps some thought they might be there today. they were not. but pastor arthur jackson did say that he spoke with sabrina this morning and her message to the congregation was to trust in god because she is continuing to trust in god. now, while the parents were not there, an aunt and uncle and a cousin were there and their message was that they hoped this would never happen again. >> this has definitely been a
tragedy but coming from the tragedy has been the movement which we are and we would love it to be more awareness and now it's not just a few people in sanford that know about it but it's everyone. you know? so we're proud of that. and we just keep our faith. that's what's going to keep us strong and keep us peaceful. so we have peace in our spirit, peace in our mind. so that we can just continue on but we don't want this to happen to anyone else again. from's no reason for this to happen to any other families. no one should have to go through this. >> you know, pastor jackson told me that he was very, very proud of how the community stayed composed, how the community reacted in the aftermath of the verdict. you know, and in fact, members of the congregation said if you thought there was going to be violence in this community after the verdict, then that in and of itself was stereotyping. >> i believe so. i believe, again, you know, they
were talking about racial profiling of mr. martin. racial profiling of our community. that i realized that the leaders in our community, we have talked about it, dealt with it. you didn't see it. i don't think you're going to see it. i think you need to stop putting people in boxes and start dealing with the system. i understand that members who aren't african-american angry about the verdict. don't expect it from our community. >> you know, the overriding message of all of this came out today was a message of faith. and everyone that we spoke with said that it was faith that got them through this far and it is faith that is continuing to get them through. don? >> all right. john zarrella, thank you very much. sunday worshippers stopped to reflect on the zimmerman verdict today. in atlanta, ebeneezer baptist church, dr. martin luther king's home church called for all parishioners to step forward in
a tribute to trayvon martin. >> he is dead because he, another black men and boys, are seen not as a person but as a problem. isn't that what we heard on the 911 call? i see a problem. do you know him, sir? no. but i know he's a problem. not doing much. but he's a problem. what does he have? skittles and iced tea but he's a problem. >> well, this is sanford, florida, today. not far from where trayvon martin was killed last year and the trial was held. worshippers held a special prayer day and gathered for rally this afternoon at the courthouse. george zimmerman walked out of the courthouse a free man. but his legal troubles could be far from over. the reason he may face new criminal charges and florida state attorney angela corey and
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saving time by booking an appointment online, even smarter. online scheduling. available now at meineke.com. welcome back, everyone. don lemon live here in florida, continuing coverage of george zimmerman not guilty verdict. just because a florida jury found zimmerman not guilty doesn't mean he's free and clear. it ends the state's case against him. he could face a civil lawsuit by the family of trayvon martin. the justice department also has an open investigation in to martin's death. it's possible zimmerman could face a federal civil rights charge but that is still to be decided. all of it still to be decided, really. he's talk about the prosecution in this case. florida state attorney angela cory is getting flack for his post-verdict performance last night. take a listen.
>> this case has never been about race nor has it ever been about the right to bear arms. not in the sense of proving this as a criminal case. what we always believed that this was a case of details that had to be analyzed very, very carefully. i never could quite understand people, even people with law degrees, who had not read all of the police reports who had not read all of the witness statements, yet, who came up with opinions one way or the other. and this team of people standing with me, who stand with me every day in the 4th circuit and try tough cases like this all the time, knew that we had to do the best to get the entire facts and details of this case out and before a jury. >> some critics said corey sounded like she was accepting
an academy award instead of talking about a case her team lost. >> let's bring in marknejame and martin savage. i was sitting here with martin and it was sunny and i said why is she smiling? >> i wouldn't call that a smile. i would call that something that was painted on a face. to look like a smile. to me, it was insincere and if you -- if anybody does investigation in to the state's attorney's office, they see in my opinion deplorable prosecution of those who don't need to be prosecuted the way that she does. so this is such an anomaly to see -- to listen to her and to see her. she should have never, ever brought a second-degree murder charge. >> is there a personal agenda or career? >> with her? >> here?
>> i think we'll follow the bread crumbs. how she came to be appointed to this case. norma finger in that building never, ever to my knowledge had claims as a state attorney and then mysteriously he signs a recusal letter and no reason given and then all of a sudden we have ankara corey there, the governor's chief of staff as i understand it came from jacksonville, the place where she comes and so it looks like a special point was made and it was brought for whatever political pressure might have come to bear. to me, that's scary. now, there's legitimate issues about the manslaughter. no ifs, ands or buts. we have a discussion from there. but second-degree murder in my opinion by bringing that overcharge helped the defense get an acquittal. if there's any faces to look at for blame, it's the face and the office of ankara corey and the
governor's office to allow it to be so extreme and get people's hopes up when almost everybody that looks at the case and knows that second-degree murder was such a stretch that it really, really compromised their case. >> we're looking at each other and probably thinking the same thing. you said a lot here. invite angela corey and anyone involved in the courtroom to come here and give a response to that. >> i'd be happy to. dms this is my opinion of being a criminal defense lawyer in this area for a long time. >> mark o'mara, he says, look, how much did politics play in the case? you could tell he just about said it had everything to do with this case. >> right. >> what's interesting about the prosecutor team is normally they within an area know one another running across one another in previous cases and instances. these two had not crossed paths
before that i'm aware of. that's one of the reasons you had a very different and at times what seemed to be affronting kind of relationship. between the prosecution and between the defense team. angela corey, remember this was, i believe, the news conference when she announced the charges. many people thought that was hugely dramatic and shows up, well dressed, she presents and delivers this kind of a speech before she gets to what she's there for, the charges against -- >> but is this three guys out here and being sexist? other people said -- i don't want it to come off as that but a kind of beauty pageant kind of answer. how will you cure the -- you know, the world? >> i think the point to be made is there's a lot of pressure brought to bear on this team of prosecutors. already pointed out that they were appointed specifically she was named by the governor of the state of florida so right then and there and you know she's
placed up front and in the spotlight. her team had a difficult challenge. i think anyone would say based upon the evidence at the scene they worked very hard. they tried their best and did not work. whether we get in to the issue of ethics and violations here to still have to be -- >> don, let me say, we still never got an answer as to why did mr. wolfinger the state attorney of this circuit step down? there is no reason given. why does a prosecutor who's been handling cases for ten, 20 years, no question about bigotry or prejudice or anything, not a suggestion raised, step done. >> you practice law here. this is your community. >> i've been against this -- thank you. why? why? i leave it out there for the question to be asked. we never got an answer from anybody. why to the people that came in, why don't they tell us? we fought them tooth and nail for years. if this is truly as it's represented to the public a fair
and unbiassed investigation to determine which charges could be brought, when did we ever, ever hear of a prosecutor saying before they're making that investigation they meet with the family and they prayed with them holding hands the night before? >> yeah. >> that's a nice thing to do but if you're truly here as an unbiassed prosecutor, and you're not here with some sort of agenda, why are you doing that? you do that after you've made an unbiassed decision and then the next day or so, charges were announced. i'm concerned. i think that a manslaughter investigation, i totally get that. i totally understand it. i think that was totally appropriate. but to get the public's hopes up for something unattainable and then the backlash, no. consequences of actions and these are consequences of an overcharge. >> and got to run. >> to get to your point and love to talk to the prosecution team to share this and to bring out both sides. >> you read my mind. that's how i was going to end it. >> may i be there, too?
>> yes. ample opportunity. come on any time and talk about this. thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. one person who isn't talking today is george zimmerman. he's staying out of sight since leaving the courtroom last night. but next we'll hear from his brother. ♪ and i'll never desert you ♪ ♪ i'll stand by you yeaaaah! yeah. so that's our loyalty program. you're automatically enrolled, and the longer you stay, the more rewards you get. great! oh! ♪ i'll stand by you ♪ won't let nobody hurt you ♪ isn't there a simpler way to explain the loyalty program? yes. standing by you from day one. now, that's progressive.
this afternoon, more support for trayvon martin and his family. a rally is taking place in sanford, florida. alina, what's it like down there? >> reporter: this crowd started gathering about an hour ago. as you can see. started out pretty small and grown now. it's people from the community who have come out to show their disappointment with the not guilty verdict that the jury returned and i'm joined here by somebody who's been out in the community all day getting a pulse, a feel for how things have been. the sanford police chief cecil smith. give us a sense of how things are out in the community and how have they been? >> things have been very good. this is probably the largest crowd that's been out and as you can tell they've been very, very peaceful. they have an opportunity to talk about the things going on and express their feelings. >> reporter: give us a sense of what you've seen. >> thus far? >> reporter: yes. >> last night people had an
opportunity to come out and to the area shortly after the verdict was read and, again, it was an atypical saturday night where people were still out and talking and, you know, enjoying themselves. but, you know what's really interesting is the people here have been very, very, very peaceful. that's what we're talking about. a great opportunity for people to come out and express themselves. that's when's important. regardless of how you feel about the verdict or the case has gone, it's that if you're going to do something, you do so in a peaceful manner and people in this town have been outstanding with that -- remaining peaceful. >> where were you when the verdict came down? >> i was in sanford. >> your thoughts? >> that judicial system ran its course. >> reporter: when's your message to people here in sanford and the country? >> sanford is put in the spotlight for 17, 18 months and we are in the process of now
opening up a new chapter and going in a new direction, learning from the things taken place and seeing how to improve and to each other and how we can better communicate with one another and how we can make the community better. >> reporter: well, you guys heard it from the chief. he's been out and about and says things have been pretty calm around the community and this is -- this is the largest protest or gathering that we have seen here in sanford so far today. don? >> all right. we'll get back to you. thank you very much for that. the criminal case against george zimmerman is over and whether he decides to stay in florida or move away and start over his life will never be the same and his brother spoke with our kate bouldan and chris cuomo this morning. he had choice words for the naacp, news media and answers if george zimmerman will carry the gun he used to kill trayvon martin. you should listen to this. >> from your brother 's perspective, do you believe he
looks at things he did that and night says i wish i hadn't, regret having a round in the chamber or following him when i was told it wasn't necessary? what does he regret? >> i'll tell you what. when this happened, george wasn't the same. he was profoundly saddened. he was completely a somber person just not himself. regret is a very strong word. regret implies that your actions -- you have culpability in what you did for what happened and i think that's what you're asking. does he accept or share the blame. i think that george outside of the word blame feels and has felt and i've expressed this before very bad. he even told the police officer doris singleton, are you catholic? that came out in court. in my religion, death by any standard is a tragedy. abortion or self defense or what have you. so he does have emotion about the fact that he had to take a life in self defense but that is imcompatibility with what he
did. >> did you ever hear him say i wish i didn't do that? >> no. he's said the opposite. >> what do you mean? >> he had that interview and presented in court and i don't think people who are forthcoming and forthright with what they do and believe they're doing the right and would go back. if you do the right thing all the time or what you believe to be right you don't have to go back and make amends for that and say it should have been this way. if you can think of that in hindsight then it should have been that way then. >> you're saying what he did was right that night and today. i'm asking something different. taking someone's life is the last thing you should want to do. >> right. >> does your brother feel that way? that he wishes he hadn't taken that 17-year-old's life? >> that's a different question. taking a life is the last thing you should want to do. i agree that's what came out in court. he didn't find out until he was at the police station that he had, in fact, taken someone's life and distraught by that
thought. >> really didn't know? >> no, he really didn't know. he asked officer singleton and revealed to him in the first interview with police that martin expired, that he had died and he was dismayed by that. what you are saying is that what i should or shouldn't do, self defense is self defense. they're trained and taught there's only one reason or one legal way that you should discharge a weapon. not to wound or brandish them or shoot up in the air to control a crazy party. that's what happened. he was an armed person and mr. martin unfortunately isn't here to express any regrets he might have today but mr. martin had plans for george that night and unfortunately his plans and his encounter with george began with breaking his nose. i wish it weren't that way. but it is. >> there is a lot of very big push now for bringing civil
rights charges against your brother. what do you say? >> it sounds like you're saying race is never a factor and she alleges or beliefs which is disproven in a court of law that george criminally profiled trayvon martin. i encourage mr. jealous who i describe as a self professed civil rights leader. i don't think he does anything for civil rights perpetuating a narrative that's proven false and calling for an arrest and then a conviction and it didn't happen and now there's more agitation by the same players insisting that george was a murderer and racist to begin with. >> the justice department is gathering information. the justice department is not directly responding to the naacp's request but it has -- it is gathering information and there is an investigation. >> right. we welcomed, actually, that investigation through the fbi when they originally started investigating george. they investigated i think about three dozen of his closest friends and acquaintances and not an inkling of racism and evidence to show the opposite,
so i would encourage them to cool their jets, give everyone sometime to process what's going on. agitation doesn't help us. it doesn't do anybody any good right now. i'm not angry with the media. you have people injecting race in to things. red flag has to go up right away. especially after a case like this where two very crafty attorneys got away with fabricating a completely scripted narrative and selling it to the american people through the media. through cnn. through abc. through nbc. they did it themselves. to borrow a line of "argo." if you want to sell a lie, have the media sell it for you. >> will george carry a gun now? >> i don't know. i heard from piers morgan his gun was returned to him or eligible to have it returned to him. i don't know if he'll carry a gun. i think he has more reason to now than before because there's so many more people that want him dead that know that he's free and he can move about more
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welcome back to the continuing coverage of the george zimmerman not guilty verdict. you're looking at live picture of the white house. 5:34 p.m. eastern time. so how's president obama impacting the fallout of the zimmerman verdict? the white house issued a statement just hours ago. the president says the death of tray jon martin was a tragedy. not just for his family or any one community but for america. i know this case has e liz sited strong passions and in the wake of the verdict i know those passions may be running even higher but we are a nation of laws and a jury has spoken. i now ask every american to respect the call for calm reflection of two parents who lost their young son. and as we do, we should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to widen the circle of compassion and understanding in our own communities. we should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to stem the
tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis. we should ask ourselves as individuals and as a society how we can prevent future tragedies like this. as citizens, that's a job for all of us. that's the way to honor trayvon martin. let's bring in the panel now. i have a feeling that we have to separate all of these guys. attorney and tv host mo ivory joining us from atlanta with diversity and inclusion expert buck davis. in new york, radio host and new york city tea party co-founder david webb. so, i'll going to start with mo first. how does president obama's statement affect the fall yut of the zimmerman verdict if at all? >> sure, don. i think the statement gives us a little bit of comfort and he is the president of the united states and we want to hear from him. we need to hear from him. it's especially comforting after saying that trayvon could have been his son. he would have looked like him. i wanted to hear him say something and brought me some
comfort and just a little bit because i'm still angry, still upset. i'm trying to process this verdict and figure out where we go from here. so it's a wonderful thing that he did that but -- >> what are you angry about, mo? mo,mo, mo. >> david, what am i angry about? that you're asking me that question. >> it's don! it's don. >> i'm angry because a murderer got away with murder. george zimmerman's brother robert said that trayvon had plans for george. a boy walking to the store and he was getting a snack and he got mushded and a murderer got away with it yesterday. that's what i'm mad about. >> do you have to be mad about it? because, listen. people don't like verdicts all the time. and do you think it's productive to be angry? i mean, maybe it's not the right emotion that you're -- i don't know. >> no, don. it's the right emotion. no, it's the right emotion.
i'm angry about it. i'm angry we live in the society where this kind of thing can still happen. and that we're having this conversation like, oh my gosh, i don't understand why people are pulling a race card. you don't have to pull the race card. it's out. we wake up an it's out. we go to work and it's out. we go to trials and the race card is out. nobody has to pull it because it lives outside in america every day. that's why i'm angry. i think everybody, not just african-americans, everybody should be angry a 17-year-old boy was murdered in cold blood and the murderer is free. >> okay. all right. mo, let's get in -- buck you can talk this time. why are you shaking your head in disagreement here? david? david? >> well, look. i understand outrage over not getting the verdict you want. if mo reaches back to the legal premise, walking is not a crime,
hoodie is not a crime. this is a terrible tragedy. but the incident that happened happened -- >> shooting somebody in their chest. >> let me finish. >> let him finish. >> because a young black man was just murdered in chicago for refusing to join a gang. >> wait. hold on. david, david, david, david, david, david, david. david, david. stop both of you. mo! mo! stop. david stop. david, do not do that false equivalent. that is not -- >> but outrage -- >> but, listen. >> i'm not comparing -- >> it happens all the time and because it does not mean that you should shift the focus of what happened here. let's stick to this particular plan. >> okay. on this issue -- >> this case. >> thank you. >> on this issue, then, the system played out, again, we needed to see due process. not outside agitation. he was tried. the jury was picked. they were selected. they had a jury that made a
decision on second-degree murder. on the manslaughter charges. they acquitted him. the system worked. now, if you don't like the verdict, i can understand that. but to take it beyond that in to the continued h ed hyper bolbol race. with 5911 call to back it up, he couldn't identify him clearly and wasn't racially profiling him. this is a tragedy and a travesty is the point where race becomes the overwhelming issue rather than the justice system. >> david -- >> don't you think it's broken? >> hold on, guys. you have to let me lead this conversation. so, you have two people of color. i assume you're both african-american. excuse me for assuming that. >> i am. i'm not sure of david. >> i'm a black man. i'm an american. that's what it is. >> oh, okay. keep with that. >> okay. so -- girl, you are crazy. so, you have two people --
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i'm dan lemon here in sanford, florida. let's get back to the conversation about race and the president's impact and the culture around the trial. is it appropriate for the president to weigh in on the case when there is so many other cases that don't get a presidential mention? so, we talked about that. i want to finish up with that before we get to buck and i said i was going to let buck in here. do you think it's appropriate for the president to weigh in here, david? >> well, the president had to follow up on his initial statement when he made the xheent that if i had a son he would look like trayvon so i expected that. i don't think that should surprise anyone. >> okay. so buck, you've heard from david has to say. you heard what mo has to say. two people of color. both feeling differently about race here. how do you feel about race in this particular situation? >> well, let's start with the energy that surround this case which is an indicator of the
pulse of the racial problems in this country. the reason why people are stunned but not shocked, i don't know a lot of people who are shocked at the verdict. i think that it's a very familiar space for black people. i think that this is nothing new. for their group. and for many of the people in my fold it is yet another unfriendly reminder of a justice system that seems to be working so effortlessly for other groups of people and not working as well for people of color. so, that is the tension. now, david, i want to ask you this. don't you think this is worst-case scenario for making assumptions? that he first started profiling him by a couple of data points. i see this all the time in corporate america where we look at someone's height, weight, skin color or sexual orientation and use it as an indicator of capability on job, as an indicator of their potential. so you take that same filter and
you apply it to this situation and he's on some level, david, he has predicted criminal behavior. wouldn't you agree, david? >> he didn't profile a black man. if you listen to the 911 call and you get the answer that he wasn't even sure of it. two, whether he profiled -- >> wait, wait, david. >> wait a minute. >> he wasn't sure he was a black man? >> he told them that he thought he was a black man. >> he was not sure in the black call except for the nbc edit the try to portray it as black. he didn't remember if he was black or hispanic. wasn't profiling just a black man. that's part of the false narrative used here. now, there was a problem in that area and for better or worse, george zimmerman made a mistake in my opinion by going ahead and profiling some form of behavior from someone he didn't recognize. that is an error. these are two elements. >> an error. an error that led to murder.
>> mo! mo! i have to ask you, please, you will get your turn. okay? but i think you are being disingenuous. he wasn't sure of the exact ethnicity of the person he was following but he could see the person to figure out it was a person of color. maybe black, maybe hispanic. i think you are disingenuous, david, saying -- >> he was asked by the operator, the operator used the term, first. he didn't know. he followed. now, even this aside, that doesn't speak to the incident which led to the tragic death of trayvon martin. that is one incident and that was a bad decision that led to a worse incident but the two are separate. both under florida law under what happened because none of us here or for that matter likely will ever know because trayvon is dead unfortunately and george zimmerman, even telling the story can be questioned, none of us will ever know what happened
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saving time by booking an appointment online, even smarter. online scheduling. available now at meineke.com. i'm back with my panel. first to david. we have to be honest about this. we can't be disingenuous and start saying things aren't about race when they are about race in this country. otherwise, when are we going to get over this? >> racism exists and will always exist in some form in society. where it exists we should take it on and do our best to defeat it. what i don't like is when so many things are made about race when they are not maybe the dominant issue. because that actually
marginalizes when we need to take on the issues, whether it's racism or other forms of bias. we need to get rid of those issues in our society as much as possible. when we argue about race as the only issue, we do a disservice to the true nature of, frankly, advance in our culture. >> i'm going to unleash you now because you've been sitting there and very contained. you are expressing the feelings of a lot of people i've been watching and talking to on social media. >> listen, don, nobody is saying every single time something happens it has to be about race, but most times it is about race. let's not say it's not the biggest issue. it's the issue that permeates throughout the way we live our lives in america all the time. this days just brought it out in the spotlight because of the nature of a 17-year-old black boy dying. let's not ignore what it is,
david. yes, there was a trial. i accept what the jury decided. it was not about racial profiling in this case. it was about what happened at the moment they came together. that doesn't mean you throw out everything else that happened, that he got into his car, that he followed trayvon. these are the conversations we need to have. on the one hand, maybe it's not the biggest issue, but if it is a part of the issue, it's a problem and it's something we cannot ignore by just saying that it's not there. >> but mo, i agree. let's have those discussions when blacks kill whites on the same level. >> buck davis, i've got to get new. this is your profession. >> if we are trying to widen the circle of compassion, we need to narrow the focus of self-reflection and pay attention to our automatic assumptions we are making about people who are different from us that leads us into a tragedy. if you're looking for something to do tonight, america, think about what is resonating with
you as you listen to this coverage. what is bubbling up for you? that may be an indicator of a bias that you can get a handle on. >> like going out and meeting someone who is different than you and not just meeting, but becoming friends with them. you going to their home, them coming to your house. getting to know other people who don't necessarily look like you or not necessarily in your particular class and station in life. thanks to my panel. appreciate it. we are back in a moment.
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i'm susan hendricks in atlanta. back to our live team coverage from sanford in a moment. first, want to get you caught up on other news of the day. we start in iraq where a string of blasts killed 22 people today. car and roadside bombs exploded across several cities. dozens were hurt. it is the third consecutive days bombs slammed the rocky cities. a flurry of activity today as egypt's interim government tries to get on its feet. the most significant development the swearing in of ebabardai.
prosecutors have frozen the assets of 14 people including several members of the muslim brotherhood and other islamist leaders themselves. in an interview with an argentine newspaper, glean greenwald says the man who leaked the material has more information that would be dire for the u.s. if released. edward snowden has enough information to cause more harm to the u.s. government in a single minute than any other person has ever had. the u.s. government, he said, should be on their niece praying nothing happens to snowden. if something happens, all information will be revealed and that would be their worst nightmare. snowden has said he will ask russia for temporary asylum but russia says it has received no quest. in texas, demonstrators took to the capitol building as the senate passed one of the most restrictive abortion bills in the country.
senator rick perry plans to sign the legislation. he defended it on cnn's "state of the union." >> we put substantial amount of money onto the women health care programs partly because the obama administration pulled our funding to the state of texas because they disagreed with texas' restrictions on these abortions. most people believe six months is too late to be deciding whether or not these babies should be aborted or not. we put the limit at five months in this bill. >> critics argue the law will force the shutdown of most abortion clinics in texas. cory monteith was found dead in his hotel. police ruled out foul play.
earlier this year, he entered a rehab facility for substance abuse. he was released in april. the "glee" star was 31. the next hour of cnn newsroom begins right now. i'm don lemon here in sanford, florida, with cnn's special coverage of the george zimmerman not guilty verdict. strong emotions are still pouring in. we have complete coverage from here in washington to all around the world. the first time since his arrest last april, george zimmerman began his day a free man. a six-women jury acquitted him in the death of trayvon martin but the story and debate do not end there. this case captured so much interest in part, because it combined elements of race with topics like gun violence, gun rights and self-defense.