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30-year-old "glee" actor cory monteith. i'm woman blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> we begin with breaking news and dramatic development in the aftermath of the guilty verdict of not guilty. eric holder questioning stand your ground, florida's controversial self-defense law in the spotlight because of the case. the attorney general addressed the naacp convention in orlando just a few moments ago, an organization of activists that's now amassed 1 million signatures calling for federal charges against george zimmerman. >> these laws try to fix something that was never broken. there has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if -- and the "if" is important -- if no safe retreat is available.
but we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat outside their home if they can do so safely by allowing and perhaps encouraging violent situations to escalate in public, such laws undermine public safety. the list of resulting tragedies is long and unfortunately has victimized too many who are innocent. it is our collective obligation we must stand our ground to ensure -- [ applause ] we must stand our ground to ensure our laws reduce violence and take a hard look at laws that contribute to more violence than they prevent.
>> let's bring in our chief political analyst gloria borger. also joining us, prosecutor tanya miller and ann bremner. tanya, what do you think about the attorney general saying we have to do away with the stand your ground laws? >> i think it was one of the strongest takes at the naacp. he also put a very personal face on the issue of racial profile, which when it meets with the stand your ground law can be deadly for young african-american males. he did not give any indication whether the department of justice would file charges, not
that i expected him to. i think what he said will resonate with african-americans and i think he's feelin personal pressure to take action in this case, whether he ultimately can or not. >> what did you think of his recommendation to do away with these state laws in florida, for example, stand your ground? >> well, i think that if he was going to announce today charges investigating further in civil rights violations or hate crimes, we would have heard it. i think there's more of an outcry saying let's get all of these laws out there that made this possible or impossible in terms of prosecution. many states have stand your ground. i think it was really the problem in this case and the reason the case didn't get charged from the get-go. >> it's very hard, gloria, as you know and you've been doing your own reporting on this for
the justice department, the attorney general, to go ahead and charge george zimmerman for violating hate crimes or civil rights abuses. the evidence may or may not be there but everything we're hearing, it's probably not enough to go ahead with these formal charges. >> he did make the case today that the justice department has an open investigation, as he called it, that he's going to look into it. but the bar, as you point out, is very, very high, wolf. my sources over there at the justice department say to me it's not likely at this point that they would bring some kind of civil rights charges. but what the attorney general did was take it in a different direction, take on the stand your ground laws, which by the way are laws in 22 states in this country, including the state of florida, going out of his way to say that it foments violence and, you know, so it's very clear that along with the voting rights act, which he talked about now, stand your ground is going to be something else the administration will be talking about. in many ways, wolf, eric holder
up until this point, we may hear more from the president later today, but up until this point eric holder has become the spokesman and the voice of this administration on this case and now on stand your ground. and we may hear more from the president, as i said, but he's the person who has been out front and center on this. >> he's been very personal today in speaking about trayvon martin. i'm going to play a little clip from the speech because he could relate. he said he could relate to what the trayvon martin family is going through and he also spoke about his own son. listen to this. >> trayvon's death last spring caused me to sit down to have a conversation with my own 15-year-old son, like my dad did with me. this was a father-son tradition i hoped would not need to be handed down, but as a father who loves his son and who is more knowing in the ways of the
world, i had to do this to protect my boy. i am his father and it is my responsibility not to burden him with the baggage of eras long gone, but to make him aware of the world that he must still confront. >> powerful words, tanya. i'm sure you agree. >> i do, i do. and i think many african-americans agree with that and understand that uniquely. these are conversations that mothers and fathers have with their sons regularly because, you know, the fact of the matter is when these children go out into the world, there are people who view them as criminal based on just how they look or how they dress. and i think that this is part of why we see many people so divided on the case of trayvon martin. because this issue of racial profiling, this sort of subjective viewing of african-american youths as thugs or as criminals is something that many in america don't deal with. so they can't relate to it and
therefore they don't understand it. >> ann, is there still from a legal perspective a double standard in the united states for young african-american boys and young white boys? >> well, that's part of the outcome of this case. i think that people have concluded that, that it started from the beginning, wolf. it started first when he was viewed by george zimmerman and it didn't change. i think a lot of people see that and i think everyone has said or many people have said that are critical of this verdict that if you switch the races, switch roles in this case, we wouldn't have had this outcome. i think we need to look are we either part of the solution or part of the problem. but what did we learn out of this place and how can we make it different in the future? you can't solve the issue in a trial. the kinds of issues we had in this case, you can't solve them in a trial, you have to solve them in a national conversation level. i'm encouraged to see a lot of conversations about this issue very, very frank and ongoing.
>> wolf, what was the most effective to me, not only eric holder talking about his son but here you have an african-american attorney general talking about his own experiences having been pulled over by the new jersey when he said he wasn't quite sure he was speeding or having been pulled over on his way to a movie in georgetown when, as he pointed out, he was a federal prosecutor. and so he talked about how this situation, how being so-called profiled without using the word, how that has affected him. and i think that it's very important to hear that from the attorney general of the united states, who also happens to be black, wolf. >> i suspect we're going to be hearing more from the president of the united states on this sensitive subject as well. gloria borger, thanks as usual, tanya miller, ann, thanks for both of you for coming in as well. when we come back, a trayvon
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this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news in the entertainment world, we just learned what killed the "glee" star cory monteith. tragically it may not come as a huge surprise to people out there who knew about his substance abuse. let's go to tory for the latest information. what have we learned? >> the justice department just released new information. autopsies and toxicology testing
concluded that the "glee" star died of a lethal combination including heroin and alcohol. his body was found in vancouver on saturday afternoon after he failed to check out of his hotel room at time. he was going out with friends the night before but came back to his room alone. the 31-year-old actor described himself as an out of control teen who abused drugs and alcohol that, who would often skip school to drink and often smoke pot when he was just 13 years old. it was a far cry from the character he often portrayed on screen. he has been relatively open about his struggle. this past spring he checked himself into rehab. the coroner's office is saying at this point that there is nothing to suggest that this is anything other, wolf, than a very tragic accident. >> what a tragedy indeed and what a good, good actor and
singer and all of that. what a waste. thanks very much for that report. cory monteith, only 31 years old. coming up, what happened inside the jury room? the juror revealing dramatic details about their emotional path to a verdict in a jury trial. and stevie wonder weighing in on the zimmerman verdict. stay with us here in "the situation room." we know it's your videoconference of the day. hi! hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast are something to smile about. book a great getaway now and feel the hamptonality in cities like charlotte,ing. atlanta, and chicago,
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that trayvon martin was shot and killed. our anderson cooper sat down for an exclusive interview with the only juror to speak out in this case, the juror called b-37. >> do you think trayvon martin threw the first punch? >> i think he did. >> what makes you think that? >> because of the evidence of -- on the t or on the sidewalk where george says he was punched, there was evidence of his flashlight and keys there and then a little bit farther down there was a flashlight that he was carrying. and i think that's where trayvon hit him. >> so you think based on the testimony you heard, you believe that trayvon martin was the aggressor? >> i think the roles changed. i think george got in a little bit too deep, which he shouldn't have been there, but trayvon decided that he wasn't going to let him scare him and get the
one over up on him or something, and i think trayvon got mad and attacked him. >> let's get some reaction from natalie jackson now. she's a family attorney for the trayvon martin family. natalie, what's your reaction when you heard this juror explain her sense and one of the reasons why she and the others apparently decided that george zimmerman was not guilty? >> i was kind of shocked because i was shocked to hear so much personal opinion as opposed to her -- you know, them looking through the law or saying they were confused with the law. even when asked the question that was just posed, i think her answer was, yes, i think that he was aggressor but said that she thought the roles changed and she wasn't able to explain how the roles changed except trayvon
sucker punched george. >> she said she believed it was george zimmerman who was trying out for help, he thought his life was in danger and he shot him. and she went into the jury deliberations convinced that he was not guilty. >> right. and i watched the interview, too. once again, i was just surprised that the amount of benefit that -- when she talks about even rachel jeantel and she didn't feel she was honest, i understand that. but then she said in the same token that george had inconsistencies but felt he was telling the truth. the whole self-defense of george zimmerman was based on george zimmerman. many thought his credibility being a problem was one of the reasons the jury would convict him. >> have you had a chance to
speak to the family, the mom and dad of trayvon martin about this interview that the juror gave to anderson cooper? >> no, not about the interview. one of the things that sybrina said was that she was not going to allow this verdict to define her son and that she would define her son. a lot of people in the community were upset and we heard the jury insinuate that trayvon martin was responsible for his own death. >> listen to what rachel jeantel, what she says to piers morgan in the interview about trayvon martin and his use of marijuana because i'm anxious to get your reaction. listen to this. >> no. >> did you ever see him with a gun? >> no. >> what about drugs? >> drugs. okay. weed, you say marijuana but in my area we say weed. my area weed for trayvon i can
say one thing, weed don't do -- make him go crazy. it just makes him go hungry. best thing i can say, it makes him hungry. >> did he take a lot of weed? >> no. >> how much would you say? >> like twice a week. >> twice a week. >> yes. >> what the defense again tried to paint a picture of was somebody who because of the drug use, that would make him more violent. >> no. like i said, that's b.s. that's just their opinions. that's the problem in this case. that was their opinion. >> so what do you think about that, natalie? >> i think it's very revealing. and even the question that piers asked, because marijuana was never introduced as evidence in this case. so the fact that we're talking about it means that we, you
know, it's a part of a conversation surrounding trayvon and what we think and who we think trayvon is when it wasn't even introduced as evidence in the case. >> the parents, how are they doing? >> they are -- they are continuing on. they're disappointed in this verdict. like i said, they won't let it define their son and the conversations that are trying to be had around their son, such as the marijuana question in the context of the trial, it's not fair because it was no evidence in the case. and i think we need to talk about that. like why is it that those are the conversations around trayvon? >> natalie jackson is a family attorney for the trayvon martin family. natalie, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> up next, the zimmerman juror reveals what happened during the first vote. how many wanted a guilty verdict from the start. also, we have word of a major
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happening now, a member of george zimmerman's jury reveals what happened during their difficult and emotional deliberations. also, compromise, compromise. stand by for details about how capitol hill dodged a major crisis today. and the mayor of a major city despite allegations of sexual harassment, he says he is not quitting. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." nationwide demonstrations in the wake of the zimmerman verdict have not let up, most remaining very peaceful, though with some few exception. cnn's martin savidge is working this part of the story for us. he's joining us with the latest. what are you seeing across the
country, martin? >> reporter: wolf, you know it's having, for the last 18 months the city of sanford was the epicenter of controversy when it came to trayvon martin's death and the trial. the trial is over and it is calm but across the nation, that's not necessarily the case. reaction to george zimmerman's not guilty verdict continues to reverberate across the country. most demonstrations have been peaceful, like this one in tallahassee, florida. a noon rally also wound through the heart of housn. in atlanta demonstrators took to downtown streets. in cleveland they gathered outside the cuyahoga county justice center. >> this is what we need. this is who we are. >> reporter: but not all protests have heeded the calls for harm. oakland have seen nights of
limited violence. the los angeles police saying enough is enough. stevie wonder says florida is off his concert list, singling out the state's controversial self-defense law. >> and until the stand your ground law is abolished in florida, i will never perform there again. >> there are also efforts under way, wolf, to target the state of florida online. there is at least one petition that is asking for people to boycott the state, trying to hit it where it can be hurt most, with the tourism industry. it should be pointed out in this community they cite one of the reasons it has remained calm is the fact that trayvon martin's parents continually ask that people respect and observe peace. wolf? >> thanks very much, martin savidge, in sanford. jurors deliberated more than 16
hours before finding george zimmerman not guilty saturday night. what you may not realize is just how emotional and grueling that entire process turned out to be for the jurors. more now from anderson cooper's fascinating and exclusive interview with the juror called b-37. >> did you take an initial vote to see where everybody was? >> we did. >> how was that first vote? >> we had three not guilties, one second degree murder and two manslaughter. >> can you say -- do you want to say where you were on that? >> i was not guilty. >> how do you then go about deciding things? >> we looked through pretty much everything. that's why it took us so long. we were looking through the evidence and then at the end we just -- we got done and then we just started looking at the law,
what exactly we could find and how we should vote for this case. and the law became very confusing. >> yeah, tell me about that. >> it became very confusing. we had stuff thrown at us. we had the second degree murder charge, the manslaughter charge, then we had self-defense. the second degree -- it wasn't at second degree anymore -- >> so the person who felt it was second degree going into it, you had convinced them, okay, it's manslaughter. >> through going through the law. and then we had sent a question to the judge. >> you sent a question out to the judge about manslaughter. >> yes. and what could be applied to the manslaughter. we were looking at the self-defense. one of the girls said -- asked if you can put all the leading things into that one moment
where he feels it's a matter of life or death to shoot this boy or if it was just at the heat of passion at that moment. >> so that juror wanted to know whether the things that had brought george zimmerman to that place -- >> exactly. >> not just in the minute or two before the shot actually went off. >> exactly. >> did you feel like you understand the instructions from the judge? because they were very complex. >> right. and that was our problem. i mean, there was a couple of them in there that wanted to find him guilty of something. and after hours and hours and hours of deliberating over the law and reading it over and over and over again, we decided there's just no way -- other place to go because of the heat of the moment and the stand your ground. he had a right to defend
himself, if he felt threatened, that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right. >> so even though it was he who had gotten out of the car, followed trayvon martin, that didn't matter in the deliberations, what mattered was those final seconds, minutes when there was an altercation and whether or not in your mind what the most important thing was whether or not george zimmerman felt his life was in danger? >> that's how we read the law. that's how we got to the point of everybody being not guilty. >> when you all realize, okay, the last holdout juror has decided, okay, manslaughter, we can't hold george zimmerman to manslaughter, there's nothing we can really hold him to, not guilty, in that jury room, emotionally what was that like? >> it was emotional to a point but after we had put our vote in and the bailiff had taken our vote, that's when everybody started to cry. >> tell me about that. >> it's just hard thinking that
somebody lost their life and there's nothing else could be done about it. i mean, it's what happened. it's sad. it's a tragedy this happened but it happened. i think -- i think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into. i think both of them could have walked away. it just didn't happen. >> it's still emotional for you. >> it is. it's very emotional. >> and let's discuss what we just heard with three cnn legal analysts, jeffrey toobin, sunny hostin and mark nejame. sunny, were you surprised there was this split among the six women of the jury right in the beginning of negotiations? >> no, i wasn't surprised. you often see that. i'm much more surprised by the fact that there were two jurors leaning toward manslaughter, one for second degree murder and
those three were able to be sort of swung all the way to not guilty. that surprises me a lot more and it really says something. some people said this prosecution team didn't prove second degree murder, this prosecution team didn't prove manslaughter. well, they started out with three jurors in favor of conviction so i think that speaks volumes. >> were you surprised, mark? >> no, not necessarily. i think a jury is often a microcosm of society. if you were to poll the country, i suspect we'd be pretty much split 50/50. and i think it breaks down exactly along those lines. a percentage think it should have been manslaughter, a smaller percentage think murder two and half the country thinks it should in fact be not guilty. but once you get into the group dynamics and the interaction, things often change. there's really something strong to a jury dynamic rather than an individual looking at that.
>> they spent, though women on the jury, some 16 hours or so discussing the final decision, final not guilty verdict. i guess it shouldn't be all that surprising that people change their minds in those intense kinds of deliberations. >> not at all. this is how the system is supposed to work. this is why jurors deliberate together, they talk about the evidence and listen to each other. if we had a system by casting a vote by pushing a button at the end of testimony that, would be one kind of system. but we have a system where judges encourage the jurors to listen to each other, to talk and there is no shame and there's certainly nothing at all unusual about jurors changing their mind. and the only verdict that matters is the one at the end, the unanimous one, not the first straw poll that jurors often take. >> the jurors in the send said they unanimously came around to the conclusion that george zimmerman had a right to defend himself and they specifically
heard this charge that the judge debra nelson gave them on friday just before the deliberations. i'll play the little clip on what the judge said. >> if george zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forceable felony. >> and as a result, the juror told anderson that they found george zimmerman not guilty in part art of that. >> the defense did a good focus of taking the focus off stand your ground. stand your ground never really
left this case. i mean, this notion that you can be outside, not even in your home and have no duty to retreat, have no duty to sort of back off and say let's let cooler minds prevail was very much a part of this trial. and could you see that because that is one of the things that the juror b-37 referenced when she spoke to anderson. she said we believed that he could stand his ground. so i think there's much reflection that needs to be made on the stand your ground laws. it was very much a part of this case. >> as you know, mark, a lot of people are upset about this verdict. they say that trayvon martin, who was walking in an area that he had every right to walk in, he had a right to stand his ground as well when he felt threatened by some guy who was following him. what do you say to those folks? >> i think that the prosecution did not prove that beyond a reasonable doubt, and that becomes the rub here. stand your ground laws have been
in florida and now they're really taking over a majority of the states for a long time. we had that in jeb bush's administration as governor of florida. even though there was not a stand your ground hearing, it's been in the self-defense instruction for a long time, and we all knew that it was there. and i think that too many, especially the prosecutors, glossed over that and they did not address that head on because they knew it was going to be coming. so i think that they really, really simply did not anticipate the jurors listening to the jury instructions and they did not properly prepare during the course of the case to defeat that, exactly the point that you just made. you did not hear the prosecution or convincingly bring that out to many? >> button this up, jeffrey, for us. >> well, i'd just like to say if you listen to those jury instructions, good luck understanding them. jury instructions in this country are legal gobb
gobblyity-gook. yes, it's true that self-defense was a successful defense here but it would be a better system if we had clearer, simpler jury instructions that everyone could understand. >> couldn't agree more. >> i'm not holding my breath for that but let's see what happens. guys, thanks very much. jeffrey toobin, sunny hostin and mark nejame. >> thank you. >> there's still a lot more from anderson's interview with juror b-37 that have not aired. you can watch the rest of the interview tonight 8:00 p.m. eastern only here on cnn. we're going to have much more ahead on the zimmerman trial about the 6:00 p.m. program. and we're just getting information from the former vice president's daughter, liz cheney, now running for office. we'll give you the details when we come back.
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years old, but he's under fire for alleged behavior that would be unacceptable even for a teenage boy. multiple reports alleging the mayor groped, forcibly kissed, and sexually harassed some women. let's go to stephanie elam joining us with the latest. what's going on here? >> reporter: the san diego mayor bill filner, he says he's a demonstrative person. he's a hugger of both men and women. but some of the people who have been his biggest allies say it amounts to more than that. they're calling it sexual harassment. >> bob filner is to blame. and he needs to resign. >> reporter: san diego mayor bob filner hasn't been in office a year yet, but he's already fighting for his job. filner's chief of staff has resigned, his fiance has left him and is now calling for his resignation. and calling up the chant is
debra frye. >> we need to stand by our women who have been abused. who have been sexually harassed. and stand up for them and get him out of office. >> reporter: the political fire storm prompted the mayor to release this video of youtube. >> when a friend like donna frye is compelled to call for my resignation, i'm clearly doing something wrong. i'm embarrassed to admit i have failed to fully respect the women who have worked for me and with me. >> reporter: michael gonzalez a lawyer for one of the accusers has alleged the mayor groping and forcibly kissed many women. >> he says things like come on you know you love me. just give me a kiss. no one will know. >> reporter: but filner has made it clear he's not going to step down. >> i think it's important we continue with my priorities. that's what i was elected to do with the vision i have for the city. and we have made some good strides. and those will continue.
that's why i'm not resigning. >> reporter: the director of the institute of politics at usc. is there any way you think he can come out of this and keep his job in. >> politics ultimately about trust. when your fiance and friends and allies level these accusations against you, it's almost impossible to rebuild that trust. >> reporter: now, attorney marco gonzalez says there will be a sexual harassment claim filed with the city. it's not clear yet at this point how many women are poised to make their case in court saying they were victims of this alleged sexual harassment. just in case the mayor has gone ahead and hired legal counsel on his own dime to prepare that he will get due process like every other american citizen. >> thanks very much, stephanie, for that. when we come back, a major arrest in the drug wars. a man called an absolute demon.
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mexico's military swooped in and captured the suspected boss of one of the world's most notorious drug cartels. it happened only miles from the united states. brian todd has the dramatic warning. >> we have to warn viewers ahead of time some of the images are disturbing. the accounts of what this man allegedly did is jaw dropping. he worked his way up from the chain of the zetas who not instilled fear in everyone he came across but also relished in inflicting pain. >> in a world of bad charactering, analysts say morales held a special place. >> he was the most sadistic cartel leaders in the americas. >> reporter: travino of the zetas drug cartel is now in
mexico's authority. george grayson, an expert on the zetas says an absolute demon has been removed. one of his alleged favorite tactics, the stoop. >> he delighted in putting his victims in barrels, pouring gasoline all over them, and then setting them on fire until they were nothing more than a crisp set of ashes. >> reporter: his other signatures? beheadings and leaving the bodies of rivals or those who'd otherwise crossed the cartel hanging from bridges. analysts say he and the zetas in other incidents years ago killed dozens of migrants trying to get to the u.s. including these victims left in a warehouse just south of the border. >> he tried to recruit them as perhaps couriers-lookouts.
>> reporter: grayson sites another recruiting method. he told the chronicle on at least one occasion, the zetas hijacked a bus, forced the men out and gave them weapons. >> he would have them fight each other until the last man was standing. then he would say well, you are now worthy to become a zeta. >> reporter: analysts say he relished in this sadism but also did it to instill fear in rivals and the police. it was effective. the zetas are now mexico's second largest drug cartel. and his breach of violence also moves into the u.s. >> he was responsible for some executions or killings in the united states. and certainly the zetas have if not their own cells, but they do work with gangs and most crime units in various american cities. >> reporter: with miguel
trevino's capture, who lo take over the zetas? his brother omar could take over. but he is a far weaker person. meaning the struggle for this cartel will be messy. >> and there are a lot of reports that trevino and the zetas were responsible for killing a u.s. agent. >> that's right. and another agent were ambushed as they were driving from monterey to mexico city. one was killed, the other wounded. >> brian todd, thanks very much. happening now, breaking news we're following. the coroner finds a fatal mix of heroin and alcohol in the "glee" star cory monteith. we're standing by on a press conference for his death. plus dr. sanjay gupta. plus the personal remarks of
trayvon martin by t. and two exclusive cnn interviews and two different takes on the george zimmerman trial. we're comparing the views of juror b-37 and rachel jeantel, the witness. i'm wolfe blitzer. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. you're in "the situation room." all that and more coming up. more news on the shocking death of cory monteith. the 31-year-old member of "glee." he was found dead in a hotel over the weekend in vancouver. autopsy reports have just been released confirming the worst fears of the actor's family, friends, so many fans out there who witnessed his long struggle with substance abuse. we're standing by for a news conference from the vancouver police. but first let's go to tori
dunnen. what did the coroner say? >> well, the british columbia coroner's office just released new information regarding cory monteith's cause of death. an autopsy in toxicology testing confirmed he died of a lethal combination involving alcohol and heroin. he was found in his hotel resume in vancouver on sunday afternoon. that was after he failed to check out on time. video surveillance showed the actor going out with friends the night before but coming back to the hotel alone. monteith was relatively open about his struggle. it was just this past spring that he decided to check himself into rehab. and also in previous interviews the 31-year-old actor had often described himself as an out of control teen who abused drugs and alcohol. that he would often skip school to drink and smoke pot when he was just 13. his teen years were a far cry from the character finn he
portrayed on screen. there is nothing to suggest this is anything other than just a very tragic accident. and wolf, we're told his family knows about the circumstances regarding his death. we should find out more information soon. >> in fact, we're going to find out more right now. let's go to the news conference in vancouver. authorities there are speaking out. >> -- and that this was an overdose and a tragic accident. the file will remain with the coroner's office. the police investigation has been concluded unless new information is received. again, we'd like to express our condolences to the family, friends, colleagues, cast mates, and fans of mr. monteith. at this time i'll try to answer any questions you have. [ inaudible question ] i don't know. the coroner's report doesn't suggest levels of alcohol and heroin. it just indicates that it was
heroin and alcohol that were -- that killed mr. monteith. so i don't have the levels. so i can't answer that question. >> do you know whether it was injected, smoked, or snorted? >> that would be something that's now in the hands of the coroner. they'll have to provide that in their final report. >> you said this investigation is concluded. so going to make any attempt where he got the heroin from? >> there is -- from the police perspective, the investigation has been concluded. this -- there are provisions in the criminal code like criminal negligence, provisions that there's a duty to provide the necessities of life. our investigation shows that mr. monteith was alone at the time he died. and that's the factors involved in his death wouldn't be relevant to an investigation of that sort.
>> did he take the heroin alone, while he was by himself? >> that's our belief. [ inaudible question ] i'm sorry? that's something you'd have to ask the coroner. i don't have that information. >> how is it possible to get these results so quickly? >> you'd have to ask the coroner. they're responsible for toxicology reports and findings. >> have the police been able to identify and discuss with people who were with cory earlier in the evening -- >> so there you have it. cory monteith died of what the coroner says was a mixed drug toxicity involving alcohol and heroin. let's bring in dr. sanjay gupta. this combination of alcohol and heroin, two substances potentially can kill you. >> it could. and you obviously just heard there from the official report that it was a mixed drug toxicity. so these two substances
together. we've talked about this with other tragic stories, wolf. one thing to keep in mind when you talk about these types of substances, heroin is really sort of a derivative of morphine. and both that and alcohol basically they suppress your body's central nervous system. what that means is that your body constantly has a reflex to beat the heart on its own, to breathe on its own. when these two substances are in too high a dose as you just heard there, the body's drive to breathe is essentially recessed. we heard of the same thing with michael jackson. but that's a common scenario. in this country, accidental drug overdoses involving all sorts of different substances accidentally kill somebody every 19 minutes. so we're talking about with regard to mr. monteith. but this is a very common and tragic problem. >> only 31 years old. he told "parade" magazine back in 2011 he began using drugs at
the age of 13. he went into rehab the first time at the age of 19. earlier this year he was in rehab. i guess it must be so hard once you're hooked on heroin or alcohol, unless you're an incredibly powerful person with a great desire to stop it, even if you have the best rehab people in the world, it's very hard to get off of it. >> heroin is one of the most addictive substances on the planet. and so you're absolutely right. you know, they grade these types of things. heroin, cocaine, nicotine, alcohol. heroin ranks at the very top. and it is incredibly difficult to recover from the addiction. the sadder truth is a small fraction of the people who need treatment for addiction actually get it. then of the people who actually get treatment, maybe 20% to 30% actually have abstinence after a few years. so a lot of people go through rehab over and over again and
have relapses. those aren't considered failures in the addiction community, but you're absolutely right. it usually involves multiple trips to rehab. and even then 50% stay abstinant. >> what a waste of a great, great talent. he was so great in "glee." our heart goes out to his family and his friends. sanjay, thanks very much for helping us better appreciate this horrible, horrible addiction. now to the backlash from the george zimmerman trial that continues. just a little while ago the attorney general of the united states eric holder faces hundreds of the harshest critics of zimmerman's not guilty verdict. he spoke to members of the naacp. not simply as the nation's top law enforcement officer, but also as a father. >> trayvon's death last spring
caused me to sit down to have a conversation with my own 15-year-old son. like my dad did with me. this was a father/son tradition i hoped would not need to be handed down. but as a father who loves his son and who is more knowing in the ways of the world, i had to do this to protect my boy. i am his father. and it is my responsibility not to burden him with the baggage of eras long gone, but to make him aware of the world he must still confront. >> it was a very personal take on the death of trayvon martin as the obama administration now facing growing pressure to pursue civil rights charges against george zimmerman. the naacp says it now has 1 million signatures on a petition urging the justice department to take action against zimmerman. our national political correspondent jim acosta is at the white house getting more reaction over there. what else are you hearing?
>> reporter: wolf, under pressure from civil rights groups across the country, president obama and his administration, they are under growing pressure to take some kind of federal action with respect to the stand your ground laws in place in florida. and eric holder sharply criticized that law. he made the comments at the naacp conference in florida, the law allows people in florida and more than 20 other states to use deadly force to defend themselves if they feel they are seriously threatened. that would be something they would do instead of fleeing or retreating. stand your ground was not used in the zimmerman defense, but one of the jurors in that trial did tell cnn's anderson cooper that they felt or at least this one juror felt that zimmerman had a right to stand his ground in his confrontation with trayvon martin. holder did not say the justice department would take direct federal action against florida to challenge stand your ground, but he did say the law needs to
be re-examined. >> it's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and so dangerous in our neighborhoods. these laws try to fix something that was never broken. there has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if -- and the if is important -- if no safe retreat is available. >> reporter: now, holder did seem to go a bit further than jay carney who said earlier today at the news briefing here at the white house that the president believes some of the laws in these states need to be examined through the prism of gun violence. now, as for the law in florida, florida governor rick scott a republican there, he is defending stand your ground. his office put out a statement earlier today saying that a bipartisan commission examined that law in the aftermath of the george zimmerman/trayvon martin case and that at this stage, the
governor there believes that that law should be kept and that he defends that law. and i should also point out president obama did sit down for a series of interviews with spanish language tv stations. no definitive word yet as to whether or not he commented on that case or the stand your ground law. but at this point the white house and the attorney general says these laws need to be re-examined. but not that any action will be taken at this time. >> thanks very much. jim acosta from the white house. up next, the juror that has spoken out. whether racial profiling for a factor. this is a cnn exclusive. and secret weapons hiding in the cargo of brown sugar setting off a violent confrontation. and lots of international intrigue. members of the american postal worker's union
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cnn is getting ready to roll out never seen portions of our exclusive interview with one of the six jurors in the zimmerman trial. she spoke to cnn's anderson cooper. the first juror to speak out publicly about the testimony, the deliberations, and the not guilty verdict. the juror called b-37 told anderson she doesn't believe race or racial profiling were factors in the trial. listen to this clip that's been getting lots of attention. >> the prosecution didn't use the word racial profiling during the case. they used the word profile. >> uh-huh. >> that was something that was worked out between the judge and the lawyers when the jury wasn't in the room. >> right. >> do you feel that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin? do you think race played a role in his decision? his view of trayvon martin as
suspicious? >> i don't think he did. i think just circumstances caused zimmerman to think that he might be a robber or trying to do something bad in the neighborhood because of all that had gone on previously. there were unbelievable number of robberies in the neighborhood. >> so you don't believe race played a role in this case? >> i don't think it did. i think if there was another person, spanish, white, asian. if they came in the same situation where trayvon was, i think george would have reacted the exact same way. >> why do you think george zimmerman found trayvon martin suspicious then? >> because he was coming through the back. it was raining. he said he was looking in houses as he was walking down the road, kind of just not having a purpose to where he was going. he was stopping and starting. but, i mean, that's george's rendition of it.
but i think the situation where trayvon got into, being late at night, dark at night, raining. and anybody would think anybody walking down the road stopping and turning and looking, if that's exactly what happened, it's suspicious. and george said that he didn't recognize who he was. >> well, was that a common belief on the jury that race was not -- that race did not play a role in this? >> i think all of us thought race did not play a role. >> so nobody felt race played a role? >> i don't think so. i can't speak for them. >> that wasn't part of the discussion in the jury room? >> no. we never had that discussion. >> it never came up did george zimmerman profile trayvon martin. >> no. i think he profiled him because he was neighborhood watch and he profiled anybody that came in acting strange.
i think circumstances happened that he saw trayvon at the exact time that he thought he was suspicious. >> the prosecution tried to paint george zimmerman as a want to be cop. overeager. do you believe that? >> i think he's overeager to help people. like the lady that got robbed while he and her baby were upstairs. he came over and offered her a lock for the back door. he offered her his phone number, his wife's phone number. he told her that she could come over if she felt stressed or she needed anybody. come over to their house. sit down, have dinner. not anybody -- i mean, you have to have a heart to do that and care to help people. >> so you didn't find it creepy -- you didn't find it a negative -- you didn't buy the prosecution when they said he was a want to be cop? >> i didn't at all. >> is george zimmerman somebody you'd like to have on a neighborhood watch in your
community? >> if he didn't go too far. i mean, you can always go too far. he just didn't stop at the limitations that he should have stopped at. >> so i don't -- is that a yes, or -- if he didn't go too far. is he somebody prone to going too far? >> i think he was frustrated with the whole situation in the neighborhood, with the break ins and the robberies, and they actually arrested somebody not that long ago. i mean, i would feel comfortable having george, but i think he's learned a good lesson. >> so you would be comfortable with him now because he learned a lesson from all this? >> exactly. he just didn't know when to stop. he was frustrated. and things just got out of hand. >> people have now remarked that he gets his gun back. and there's some people who said the idea he can have a gun
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two women. one a juror, the other a witness with two completely different takes on george zimmerman's murder trial. both exclusive cnn interviews truly fascinating to watch. and we learned a lot about what jurors were thinking during the trial. later when they found that george zimmerman was not guilty. rachel jeantel, trayvon's friend we saw on the witness stand as well. but their conflicting views may have stood out most of all. let's bring in brian todd. he's been comparing these respective interviews. >> reporter: what is extraordinary here is these women both crucial players in this trial each sat in the courtroom for extended periods
and they come away with such different views in the case. we are talking about juror b-37 who did an exclusive interview with our anderson cooper and rachel jeantel a witness for the prosecution whose testimony was controversial. she did an exclusive interview with our piers morgan. first we'll look at their takes whether george zimmerman was racially profiling trayvon martin. you're going to hear first from the juror. then from jeantel. >> no. i think he just profiled him because he was the neighborhood watch and he profiled anybody that came in acting strange. i think it was just circumstances happened that he saw trayvon at the exact time that he thought he was suspicious. >> it was cial. let's be honest. racial. >> the juror saying no racial profiling. rachel jeantel saying clearly racial profiling. now we get their versions of whether trayvon martin threw the first punch in the encounter. first you'll hear from the juror.
>> i think he did. >> what makes you think that? >> because the evidence of on the t on the sidewalk where george says he was punched, there was evidence of his flash light and keys there. and then a little bit farther down there was a flash light that he was carrying. and i think that's where trayvon hit him. >> so the juror with the strong view that trayvon martin threw that first punch. but rachel jeantel was asked by piers morgan did trayvon have that in him. take a listen. >> no. no. trayvon was too quiet, and why trayvon going to run if he wanted to confront him, beat him, why would he run? >> and that brings us now to a comparison of their takes on trayvon martin himself based on everything that they knew about him. first, you're going to hear the
juror's description of how she thinks martin's personality played into the encounter. then you'll hear rachel jeantel. >> trayvon decided that he wasn't going to let him scare him and get the one over up on him or something. and i think trayvon got mad and attacked him. >> he was a calm, chill, loving person. loved his family. definitely his mother. and a good friend. >> they were both also asked about race in the trial overall. the juror told anderson she didn't think race played a role and that none of the other jurors thought so either. jeantel said the jurors were all white with one black or hispanic lady quote, stuck in the middle. and that jeantel thought the verdict would come out the way it did because of all that. two polar opposite takes on this trial and on the personalities
involved. it really speaks to the incredible split that this whole thing has drown in the country. >> it certainly does, brian. thank you for that report. brian todd reporting. the president of the national urban league is joining us now. thank you very much. let's talk about these two cnn interviews. i'm going to play a clip. this is from the juror known as juror b-37 in a shadow. she didn't want her identity to be revealed. and rachel jeantel, the 19-year-old star witness for the prosecution. watch this. >> was that a common belief on the jury that race was not -- that race did not play a role in this? >> i think all of us thought race did not play a role. >> so nobody felt race played a role? >> i don't think so. >> the jury -- the juror made it clear that the jury never really discussed race as being a motivating factor here. >> imagine. they're white. well, one hispanic. she was stuck in the middle.
>> five white women on the jury and one hispanic. lady. >> yeah. i had a feeling it was going to be a not guilty. >> if you watch these two int interviews with the juror in the shadow and this 19-year-old woman rachel, it's as if they came from two different worlds when they were speaking of the impact of race on this case. you're the president of the national urban league. >> i think rachel nailed it. who's on the jury counts. who's on the jury determines what gets discussed and what doesn't get discussed. there's a human dynamic and a human element. and i always sort of put it in this way, wolf. here you have a teenage boy unarmed and he's being pursued by a grown man with a gun. would that grown man with a gun have pursued a white teenager walking in his neighborhood? i dare say not.
>> why didn't the prosecution bring up the whole issue of race? they never -- they said there was some profiling, but they never said racial profiling. they tried to avoid the whole racial aspect. >> we have a problem in this nation that we think that discussing race even in intelligent terms, even when it's a factor, is wrong. we have a problem in this nation that by not discussing it, we're solving the problem, we're diminishing the problem b with we're getting away from the problem. i think what this demonstrates is we are a better nation if we can intelligently discuss it. if we can recognize it's not a factor in every single thing. but it is a significant factor. and i think it played a role. and that's why the emotions around this have been so raw. that's why the sense that justice has not been done is so strong. >> i want you to listen also to rachel, the 19-year-old woman, the last person who spoke with trayvon martin before he was shot and killed.
and she was asked about the use of the "n" word. and she had this to say. watch this. >> was there anything you wished you'd said, rachel? when you finished and went home and saw the reaction and everyone giving you a hard time. is there anything you wished you'd said in there? why? >> the whole world says it's a racist word. imagine around 2000, that was not. they change it around i think. it starts n-i-g-g-a. >> what does that mean to you? that way of spelling it? >> that mean a male. >> a black man? >> no, any kind of male. >> black or white? >> any kind. chinese can say nigga. they could say that. >> and rappers and everything
use it in their music. >> they use it. >> and that's what they mean. >> but nigger best not be to black people. because that's a racist word. >> they're two different words and different meanings in your community. >> no. in a generation. >> to young people. >> old people use that too. >> all right. >> she's -- i hear her. she's promoting a difference without a distinction. however you spell it, however you say it, it's an offensive word that we shouldn't use. now, we use a lot of offensive and raw language in close company in this nation. we do. but we shouldn't. and the reality is she was sort of saying okay, i use it in a broader way. but it's a derogatory term whether you spell it with an "a" or with an "er," wolf.
i think people should recognize that. i hear exactly what she's saying. people may say does that sanction it? does that say it's okay because she may say, well, we use it and i don't think it's offensive. it is offensive because it's a very derogatory way to refer to people. you can't change the ending and whitewash its offensiveness. >> one final question. you have a son. get personal, if you don't mind, for a moment and just tell us what this whole trayvon martin saga has been to you. >> you know, it's -- it shocks your consciousness because we've had to talk to our children about it. they watch the media. they understand it. look, my son likes to wear a hoodie. that's part of what he and his friends do. black kids wear it. white kids wear it. latino kids wear it. they like to wear hoodies. because trayvon was so young and had so much of his future ahead,
you shudder to think that if my son walks, you know, a thousand feet from home, that if somebody profiles him he could not come home. that's the important impact of this. this young boy was not where he wasn't supposed to be. this young boy was not acting out of sorts, acting out of turn, trespassing, interfering with someone and he loses his life. it hurts, wolf. and you try not to personalize it, but any and every parent in america shudders. look. whether it's trayvon martin or sandy hook, the fact that our children -- our children are being victimized by intentional, illegal, raw violence means there's something wrong in this nation that we've got to get hold of. >> mark morial, former mayor of
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studied the judge's instructions and the state law before deciding that zimmerman killed trayvon martin in self-defense. >> well, because of the heat of the moment and the stand your ground. he had a right to defend himself. if he felt threatened, that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right. >> so even though it was he who had gotten out of the car, followed trayvon martin, that didn't matter in the deliberations. what mattered was those final seconds, minutes when there was an altercation and whether or not in your mind what the most important thing was whether or not george zimmerman felt his life was in danger. >> well, that's how we read the law. that's how we got to the point of everybody being not guilty. >> let's bring in anderson cooper. anderson, i know you have much more of this interview that has not yet previously aired that you'll be airing tonight. share with us what else she has
to say. >> we have 15 to 20 minutes we haven't aired yet. it's fascinating. she goes more in depth into what happened in the jury room when it was in the hands of those six women. she talked about a lone holdout juror. one of the jurors who was the last one to decide not guilty. and the pressure that person felt and what it took to get that person not to hold onto manslaughter but to say not guilty. she talks about the dynamics inside the jury room. that's be on tonight on "360." >> 8:00 p.m. eastern. you spent some serious time with this woman. >> i did. i spent about two hours or so with her before she decided to do the interview. it was all very last minute. it was all nothing had been planned in advance. we were just to meet and to talk. and after about two hours, you know, she clearly -- this has been a really traumatic experience for her. and she says for the other
jurors as well. there were a lot of tears, she said, shed after their reached their verdict. in the meeting i had with her, she was quite emotional as she was on camera at times as well. this is clearly something that, you know, she never really said she wanted. she had never been on a jury before. she never wants to be on a jury again. she hopes she never gets selected for a jury again. but she was also really stunned at the amount of attention this case has gotten. she says while they were sequestered, they really had no idea how big this case had gotten. but once it was done and once they were escorted from their hotel rooms, she saw helicopters and media she described as being like something out of disneyland. it's something she's not very comfortable with and is hoping it will all go away. >> well, thank you so much, anderson. excellent work. we'll all be watching tonight. part two of this interview, new part that has not yet aired with this juror called b-37.
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it's not just hot out there, it's dangerously hot. much of the united states right now, millions of people sweltering in what feels like a triple-digit scorcher. cnn's aaron mcpike is joining us right now. she's here in washington. what's going on around the country, erin? >> reporter: well, wolf, it was actually 103 degrees in new york city today and there have been heat advisories in effect throughout the northeast and the
mid-atlantic and even the upper midwest. >> cold water! get your cold water! >> reporter: up and down the east coast, the heat index is pushing 100. >> extended periods of heat can kill individuals. >> reporter: in baltimore, a code red heat alert from the health department. >> we're going to have a series of four really hot days, and so the effects of heat and the stress on the body are going to be cumulative. >> reporter: tourists in times square were feeling it too, where the temperatures cracked triple digits. >> here it's really hot and humid. >> reporter: making it a terrible time for a massive water main repair in maryland's prince george's county, just outside of washington, d.c. >> conserve as much as possible because come tomorrow morning when everybody wakes up and takes a shower, we're going to run out of water pretty fast. >> reporter: officials estimate the outage will impact between
150,000 to 200,000 residents. in one of the worst heat waves of the summer. outages are expected to last three to five days. >> what do you tell the tourists when they go to check into their hotel, that they're not going to have water for five days? >> reporter: like at the gaylord hotel at national harbor. >> this is a 4,000-person conference. i'm not sure how we can possibly deal without having water. >> reporter: other businesses are sweating it out too. >> it is a new business and bill collectors still come. we've got to still make a profit and it's kind of hurting us. >> reporter: of course everyone with access is soaking up as much water as they can. what are you going to do with all these wet kids for the rest of the day? >> it's going to dry off. >> reporter: are you going to pour water over your head? >> no. we have a fan. >> reporter: good thing, because from washington to philadelphia to richmond to new york -- >> it's hot! >> reporter: now, if he thinks
this is bad, just wait until august. but i guess we all need to heed the warnings and drink some more water. wolf? >> good advice, erin, thanks very much. coming up, a panda in need of privacy. jeanne moos is next. how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? new purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com when you do what i do, iyou think about risk..
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so it's hard enough having twins without the eyes of the world on you. cnn's jeanne moos explains. >> reporter: can't a panda get a little proivacy around here? can't a mom even give birth without everyone watching and clapping? exposed in front of a morning tv audience of millions. >> and then two minutes later as she kulcuddled her newborn baby something happened that no one expected. >> reporter: not even mom. two babies. she had twins here at zoo atlanta, and every bit of it was on camera. it's like something out of "anchorman." >> and watch. the mood is tense. >> reporter: the panda cam is
focused on lunlun 24/7 and even beamed out the moment her water broke. >> somebody caught that off of panda cam before we did. we started getting phone calls about the same time the keeper saw that. >> reporter: long before that the zoo proudly released her sonogram. >> containing the fetus. >> reporter: fooled them. not the fetus. there were two fetuses in there. the newborns are about the size and weight of an iphone, which, by the way, you can use to keep an eye on the panda cam, spy on the pandas on the go. how would you like people watching you toss and turn, trying to get comfortable with one of her babies tucked close to her. even in the wild, pandas won't take care of two, so the zoo swaps the cubs out every few hours so she's raising both of them, just not at the same time. when the second cub is not with mom, it stays in an incubator. she doesn't think it's the same cub, she realizes it's two
different cubs? >> the assumption is she realizes its two different cubs but if she does, she doesn't care. she's just taking care of whatever cub is in front of her. >> reporter: some cried ew, they arrived underdeveloped. these aren't ton cooking, posted someone. they'll definitely cuten up. some called them hairy hot dogs? hairy hot dog? who are you calling a hairy hot dog? some day that hairy hot dog will be big enough to kick your buns. chew on that. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. before we go, a big honor for this network and our team. cnn has received eight, eight emmy nominations in the news and documentary categories. i'm proud to say i was involved in our emmy nominated coverage of the israel/gaza conflict last year, also the election night in america coverage here on cnn.
i want to congratulate everyone at cnn who played such an important role. by the way, the news and documentary emmy awards will be handed out in new york city october 1st. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. outfront next, missile equipment intercepted on the way from cuba to north korea. we'll tell you what authorities have found on that ship. we have new developments tonight. plus new developments in the death of cory montieth. the coroner revealing tonight what killed the actor. and protests continue across the country in reaction to the george zimmerman verdict. the big question, will the department of justice file new charges? eric holder spoke today. let's go outfront. good tuesday evening to everyone. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, new developments on the ap