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cross-examined? >> i don't think it would have done anything -- been any different. >> more of anderson cooper's conversation with the juror known as b-37 in the zimmerman trial. plus, the latest statement she has just released. also -- the attorney general of the united states, eric holder, blasting the stand your ground law. does that mean we can expect changes in the law? we'll examine the possibilities. and it is certainly the question a lot of people in the northeast are asking right now, when will the heat end? we'll try to have an answer. this is "cnn newsroom." i'm wolf blitzer in washington. the only juror to speak publicly about the george zimmerman trial has just released a new statement to cnn. the woman known as juror b-37 spoke earlier and in an exclusive interview with anderson cooper in a new statement, she says this, let me quote. thank you for the opportunity to vent some of the anguish which has been in my since the trial began. for reasons of my own, i needed to speak alone.
there will be no other interviews. my prayers are with all of those who have influence and power to modify the laws that left me with no verdict option other than not guilty in order to remain within the instructions. no other family should be forced to endure what the martin family has endured and goes on to say this, now, as for the alleged book deal, there is not one at this time. there was an agreement with a literary agent to explore the concept of a book which discusses impact of sequestration on my perception of the serious case while being compared to perceptions of an attorney closely following the trial from outside the bubble. the relationship with the agent ceased the moment i realized what had been occurring in the world during weeks of my sequestration. my prayers are with trayvon's parents for their loss, as they have always been. i now wish for me and my family to recover from being selected for the jury and return to a
normal life. god bless. >> in her interview with anderson cooper, juror b-37, says george zimmerman was justified in shooting trayvon martin. here's part of the interview. >> george zimmerman obviously did not testify. but his testimony essentially was brought into the trial through throws videotapes, a number of videotapes, that he walked police through a reenactment of what he said happen. how important were those videotapes to you? >> i don't really know because, i mean, watching the tapes, you -- there's always something in the back saying, is it, is it right? is it consistent? but with all of the evidence of the phone calls and all of the witnesses that he saw, i think george was consistent in what -- and told the truth basically. i'm sure there were some fabrications, enhancements, but i think pretty much it happened the way george said it happened. >> would you like to have heard
zimmerman testify? would you like to have seen him on the stand to be cross-examined? >> i don't think it would have done any -- been any different. i don't -- i don't think he -- i think he's -- he would have told the story the same exact way. >> so you don't think him being on the stand being cross-examined would have made any different? >> i don't think it would. i really don't. >> do you think the state overcharged going for second-degree murder? do you think if they had gone into it, started off opening statements saying, manslaughter, it might have made a difference in terms of the end result? >> wouldn't have made a difference in they gave us the same paperwork they gave us. they gave us the laws and we went by the laws and that's how we found him innocent. they would have given us manslaughter and everything attached to it it would have come out the exact same way. >> you hope you never serve on a jury again? >> i told them that.
after we polled and gone downstairs, anything that anybody wants to add to this? and i said, can i get out of jury duty for the rest of my life. the one girl said, you can for a year. i think i should get out of jury duty for the rest of my life. >> can you tell me, about the last day in the jury room, deliberating? you want for so long. did you know you were close? >> we are knew we were close. we knew we were close five hours before we get to where we were. we were slowly making progress the entire time. we didn't come to a stumbling block. we were just reading and reading and reading and reading and knew were progressing. >> did the jurors, did you all get along well? was there conflict? how did the deliberation process, how was being together this long? >> deliberation was -- it was tough. we all pretty much get along.
it's hard sometimes to let other people talk, you know, at one time and then have somebody else talk instead of adding your comments to whatever they were saying trying to help figure out what we were trying to figure out. at times i thought we might have a hung jury because one of them said they were going to leave. we convinced them, no, you can't leave. you can't do this. you've been in this too long to walk out now. >> they were going to leave for personal reasons, family reasons? >> uh-huh. >> when you lay your head, tonight on the pillow, in your heart, in your head, you are 100% convinced that george zimmerman in taking out his gun and pulling the trigger did nothing wrong? >> i'm 101% that he was -- that he should have done what he did except for the things that he
did before. >> you mean he shouldn't have got on oust the car, he shouldn't haver. sued trayvon martin but in the final analysis, in the final struggle -- >> when the end came to the end -- >> he was justified? >> he was justified in shooting trayvon martin. >> the juror's comments raised lots of eyebrows including those of fellow jurors. late last night 4 of the 5 other members of the panel sent this statement, distancing themselves from her public comments. let me put it up on the screen. we the undersigned juror understand there's a great deal of interest in the case but ask you to remember we are not public officials and we did not invite this type of attention into our lives. ealso wish to point out that the opinions of juror b-37 expressed on the an dderson cooper show we her own and not representative of the jurors listed below. jurors identified by jury poll numbers and not by names. let's get perspective on what's going on the jury comments and
the fallout from the verdict in the zimmerman trial. let's bring in judge glenda hatchett, former chief presiding judge of the juvenile court. also joining us, mark nijame, cnn legal analyst. judge, what do you make of the comments by juror b-37 about zimmerman being justified, 101% in her words, in shooting trayvon martin? >> i -- i am still struggling with this verdict, wolf. it's no secret that i have always said that i thought that the prosecution didn't meet the burden on second-degree murder but i thought that there should have been a conviction on manslaughter. but to really put more of this now on trayvon martin, in her interview she talks about the fact that he could have avoided this, run away. also, zimmerman could have avoided by this not getting -- following him, getting out of the car that night.
and i feel strongly that he would not have gotten out of the car had he not had a gun, which opens up a whole other conversation for us. >> yeah, the point, though, being though though he disobeyed or ejected advice of the 911 operator that was not necessarily illegal. >> it was not. >> what he did. >> it was not. >> it was a public area, if you will. >> it was absolutely not illegal for him to disobey instructions. i agree with that. but i think that we really are going it have to have a very different conversation in this nation, wolf, about what this means. although they did not assert stand your ground, the jury certainly was instructed on stand your ground and the question for me has always been in this case, could he have retreated? could he have avoided this? did really have to come down to an argument about self-defense in this case? >> i'm curious, mark what you think about the four other jurors, there were six women on the jury, we heard in the
anderson cooper interview with one of them, four others put out their statement apparently wanting to distance themselves from one juror, b-37, had to say. what do you make of that? >> well, there's so much attention that attaches to this case, passions run so high that i think that if they have a voice they want it to be their own and not come from somebody else who has their own individual perceptions than doesn't surprise me. i am impressed, though, with what judge hatchett had to say. she's right on point. the challenge we've got is that this particular jury truly followed the law. they did not make a moral decision. they made a legal decision based upon the jury instructions that were given to them. and that what happens we need to address. if the public and the legislatures need to understand that the law is the law. even though we might disagree with something morally, spiritually otherwise, we are a contract of laws. i have a hard time with the
public going after jurors when that's our system. if now if we start having a system where jurors are intimidated to sit on a jury or they're going to make decisions based upon public opinion, we're going to hell in a hand basket in our country and our democracy quickly. >> absolutely. i couldn't agree with you more. >> thank you. >> particularly highly visible publicized juries that are being -- that jurors are really out front and out centered. but i also worry, too, the other side of that is that i don't want jurors really trying to get on a jury, maybe not being completely truthful in the examination process of being a juror thinking they're going to have instant fame and are going to be interviewed and have book deals. that troubles me, too. >> me, too, judge. thank you, judge. after the casey anthony verdict i proposed legislation in florida that the committee --
died in committee with scott randolph, so that no juror could make money for six months after they served their jury duty. they could talk, but what happened is somebody would talk before somebody ould could get money and that would kill future money deals. that would be stopping a stealth juror. doesn't impede on the first amendment rights. they can't get pay for it for six months after the service. >> one more reason i adore you. that is absolutely so wonderful. >> thank you. it died after casey anthony and hopefully with this, we can at least resurrect that have some good come out of this mess we fine ourselves in. if we ignore it and keep doing the same thing, what's the definition of insanity? continuing the same behavior and expecting the same results. >> these six women on the jury, to a lot of folks out there, you know this, their decision, not guilty, unanimous decision obviously, is -- was not popular
and they feel, to a certain degree threatened. they don't want to go public, they don't want their names released or faces well known. that sends a pretty awful signal that people can do their sieving responsibility, sit on a jury, but then for the weeks, if not months or sometimes the rest of their lives, they have to worry about some nut out there wanting to get even, if you will. how worried are you about that? >> i'm really concerned about that. it's not fair. people are called to jury duty. it is their civic responsibility. they did what they believed they had to do. i disagree with the verdict, but i was not one of the jurors. and our system says that these six women came a decision, that is the decision, and stthat is what we have to live with. for us to target -- not us -- but people in the nation to somehow target them, harass them, make their lives miserable is absolutely intolerable.
i urge us as a nation to understand that they did what they felt they had to do and that we should respect that and support their privacy. >> glenda hatchett, well said. final thought, mark? >> i just got to add, you know, this is a microcosm of what the judge and i have seen every day in courtrooms. >> yes. >> every case there's a loser and winner. 50% of the people in every case are unhappy. let's do something about it rather than complain endlessly. we've got an opportunity to adjust mandatory minimum sentences, 10, 20, life laws which completely take the discretion out of the judge when you have mitigating circumstances. we have an opportunity to address the issue of a stealth juror not getting paid. address them and then move forward and leave something positive to the legacy of the death of trayvon martin and this case. rather than just finding ourselves tomorrow having another trayvon martin situation or another situation where the nation's divided.
makes no sense. >> absolutely. >> good discussion. thanks very much. judge hatchett, as usual, mark nejame, thanks t you as well. more fallout from the george zimmerman trial four days after the verdict. civil rights groups planning nationwide vigils and more than 1 million people signed a petition calling for federal charges against zimmerman. in a speech to the naacper rig holder careful not to promise he'd file federal charges but stood by his pledge of a fuel investigation into the zimmerman case. >> as we confirmed last spring the justice department has an open investigation into it. now while that inquiries ongoing, i can promise that the department of justice will consider all available information before determining what action to take. >> president obama hasn't said very much in the wake of the george zimmerman acquittal. beyond releasing a press release
written statement right after the decision the verdict came out. for spanish language affiliates interviewed the president. they didn't ask him one question about the zimmerman verdict. joining us now, our chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin. though the president's attorney general has blasted what's called the stand your ground laws the president has not yet made any verbal, any comments, about it, about the george zimmerman case, other than that written statement trayvon martin. what's go on behind the scenes over the white house? >> reporter: wolf, look, they -- they think of the courts -- we foe that the courts are a separate branch of government and area the president doesn't on first blush want to wade in and any way look like he's questioning the decision of a jury. in fact, in the immediate aftermath of the verdict, the president, as you point out, did issue a statement and in part that statement said this, the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy, not just for his family
or for any one community but america. this case has elicited strong passions and in the wake of the verdict the passions may be running higher, but we are a nation of laws and a jury has spoken. i now ask every american to respect the call for calm refor example from two parents have lost their young son. we should ask ourselves if we are doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across the country on a daily basis. we should ask ourselves, as individuals and as a society, how we can prevent future tragedies like this. wolf, he's not commented on camera since that statement has gone out. he has not made any comments about trayvon martin or george zimmerman on camera since the verdict. this is a bit of a no-win situation for the president politically. on the one hand, you know, his supporters in many -- most core passionate supporters would like for him to speak out about racial -- their views this was in a sense of racial profiling,
there is deep racism in the country. and on the other hand many people that would be politicizing a case that doesn't deserve it. and so, for the leader of the nation, it's a tricky spot. and i think that they're trying to choose their time and moment carefully. >> i know the president did sit down for four television interviews yesterday, jessica, with spanish-speaking tv stations, hispanic anchors who questioned the president and based on what i heard the president was fully ready to discuss the verdict but no one asked him about that which was pretty surprising to white house officials, certainly surprising to me. >> reporter: yeah. and my sources tell me he was fully ready to answer the questions, and expected to get them. and you know, there were no ground rules, meaning the reporters were not told you play not ask this question. so, the questions apparently
just didn't come up. the hispanic language stations were focused on immigration reform and the president made news on immigration instead of trayvon martin. he said he would veto a house bill that doesn't include a path to citizenship. he made news there. but not on trayvon martin. wolf i will say this. i expect the president to come before cameras and speak on this issue at some point. i've not been told that by sources, i just have covered this building long enough. i've covered this president. this is an issue he's spoken on before. he's addressed race. he's addressed these issues. i believe at some pint he will have to wade into the issue and speak on it. so, it's just a question of when. >> i'm sure he will. let's not forget a year or so ago, more than a year ago, he made that public comment saying that, i'm paraphrasing, to the effect if he had a son that son would look like trayvon martin. so, i'm sure the president has strong views on what's go on in this case, on the stand your ground law and other stuff.
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>> you heard right, the legendary singer stevie wonder telling an audience in quebec, he's refusing to give concerts in florida until that state repeals its stand your ground law. that's the self-defense law the jury in the zimmerman case was asked to consider in its decision. stevie wonder didn't mention the george zimmerman case directly by name. he certainly isn't the only person calling for the repeal of stand your ground. the u.s. attorney general, eric holder, says the law causes dangerous conflict in neighborhoods and florida's senate leader has called for the reexamination of the law. some 30 states actually have stand your ground laws. they allow people fearing for their lives to use deadly force without having to retreat from confrontation even if it's possible. florida was the first state to enact the self-defense law in 2005. since then copied in some form by many other states. joining us now, the "miami herald" political reporter mark
caputo, writing an argue about stand your ground. despite calls to be repealed, that's very unlikely. why do you think it's unlikely, mark? >> well, you have to think about politics. politics it's never having to say your sorry. republican legislature says the law works well. the violent crime rate has decreased. the homicide rate has not only decreased since 2005 and this coincides with loosening gun laws and increasing number of concealed weapons permits. on its face they don't see the data that justifies it. certainly there is other data that gun control proponents site. it's a pro-gun state. reversing that tie in that state is really difficult. >> this was a statement that was released after the verdict. the florida govern rick scott set up a task force to take a close look at it and the release put out by this spokeswoman,
melissa sellers. the task force recommended that the law howl not be overturned, and governor scott agrees. so basically what you're saying, knowing the politics of florida, it's unlikely any significant change no matter what stevie wonder says or other folks are say, it's unlikely florida's go change this? >> yeah, right. stevie wonder is not going to be performing in florida for the rest 0 his life because if he says he's not going to come here because of stand your ground on the books, it's going to be on the books. if there were changes, which i think is unlikely, you see changes give clear direction to juries or judges how to apply the law, whether you can pursue or not again, i think those are unlikely changes. >> you cite a tampa bay times statewide analysis -- and i've read it as well -- of the stand your ground law in florida as used in some 200 cases. the paper wrote this, the paper wrote, people who kill the black person walk free 73% of the time
while those who killed a white person went free 59% of the time. so, what's your analysis of this tampa bay newspaper review of some 200 cases? >> well, it was a really great series. the tampa bay times is a part of the "miami herald," i have to plug that, if you look a the entire story there's more data there. one of the reasons that people who killed a black person walked free more on than people who kill a white person according to the tampa bay times analysis, was that the black shooting victim in those cases happened to be either armed and therefore was a threat or was in the process of committing some sort of crime. and stand your ground says, you have no duty to retreat, you can meet force with force and use deadly force if you fear that the other person is doing something wrong or something illegal that could harm you and harm you gravery. >> you heard marc caputo saying
he doesn't think stevie wonder will be performing for the rest of his life in florida. he has a lot of fans in florida. if you say they're not going to change that law and he doesn't change his mind, that's going to be sad for a lot of folks. >> they can catch him on youtube. >> it's always bettor see him in person, listen in person. stevie wonder is stevie wonder, a true, true legend. thanks for joining us. >> thank you much. >> the daughter of the former vice president dick cheney sets her sights on the united states senate. the man liz cheney is challenging says not so fast. why he thinks wyoming voters will stick with him.
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already. edward snowden sitting in the airport new york passport, unlabel to leave new york clear destination if he does leave. he's now formally requested asylum in russia, if you call this handwritten letter formal. the letter dated monday. snowden's lawyer in moscow predicts his client will be able to leave the airport eventually his words, in fact, in the next few days. let's see what happens there. senator lindsey graham isupping into the dispute over the nsa leaker. the south carolina republican wants the u.s. to boycott the 2014 winter olympic games if russia grant as siylum to to snowden. letting snowden stay would be a slap in the face to the united states. snowden has been holed up in the moscow airport and as we reported, he's applied for temporary asylum in russia. another cheney enters the political arena. liz cheney, the former vice president's eldest daughter will
run for the united states senate from wyoming next year. hoping to unseat mike enzi. in her campaign announcement, cheney says the country needs a new generation of leaders to step up to the plate. senator enzi say, wait a minute. he thinks voters in wim willing eventually stick with him. our chief congressional correspondent dana bash caught up with mike enzi on capitol hill. what did he have to say about liz cheney's challenge. the idea of liz cheney running for senate is a big deal, last name cheney, one of dick cheney's daughters and challenging a fellow republican and somebody who is a longtime family friend. mike enzi might not have national name recognition, but he's somebody who is well known in the state where she's running in wyoming. he was quoted, mike enzi, as telling some reporters, yesterday when the news broke, that i thought we were friends. when i caught up with him today
after a health care committee meeting i asked him about that and a few other things. why do you think that she believes that you aren't doing a good enough job as a republican senator representing wyoming, that she would be better? >> i don't know. she's never been to any of my listening sessions. i do listening sessions all over wyoming i sit and listen to what constituents have to say. eem an old shoe salesman. i though there is a customer, i know who the customer is, i listen to the customer and i see how that fits with inventory i've got which is what we're doing with legislation. >> reporter: one of fascinating things about the decision by liz cheney to challenge mike enzi is, as you know, we've seen in many instances where you've had intraparty fights, it's because ace senator has been here for a long time, maybe work too much with democrats and somebody has challenged them from the right, be who is more conservative. mike enzi is extremely
conservative. the other instance somebody has just lost touch with people back home. mike enzi's not known as somebody who has done that. he does go home to wyoming every weekend, as you saw there. he talks to people there all the time. it's not the case with him. from the perspective liz cheney, i talked to people close to her. she bought a house in wyoming, just last year. she has been there growing up with her father, and her mother who have been from wyoming, in fact, she said in her video announcing her candidate circumstance her family goes back there to 1852. so, she clearly wanted to run for the senate. mike enzi decided he was going to stay in though he's a third-term senator and decided now's the time to do it. better strike while the iron is hot. we'll see how hot it is. >> it's going to be intense. more with dana on the story later in "the situation room" as well. thanks very much. coming up this hour, here in cnn's newsroom, attention all
if you walk around with your cell phone when you go shoppinging guess what in big brother may be watch you more than you think. pamela brown is joining us in new york, she's got details, shocking details i must say, retail tracking. pam, we know surveillance cameras are watching all of us when we walk up and down the aisles but what else is going on? >> reporter: wolf, turns out when you walk into a store with your cell phone you could be tracked by the brick and mortar stores. nordstrom tracking their smartphones, they are not alone. we accept being tracked online but retailers are doing the same thing at their brick and plorter locations. some shoppers are not happy about this.
>> hello, welcome back to the gap. how did the assorted tank tops work out for you. >> reporter: will the futuristic shopping experience be coming to a store near you? not as farfetched as you think. retailers turning to technology, using video surveillance, tracking signals from smartphone to figure out how to get you to spend more. >> the in-store analytics makes it possible for retailers to understand things like where they go, where they stop, and ultimately how all of it translated to sales at register. >> reporter: nordstrom ended a test program that gathered pings from wi-fi signals on phones as they browse through the store. some outraged after learning about the in-store surveillance. way over the line, one consumer wrote on facebook. take a look at this video. camera. set up in the ceiling near the entrance. as people enter the software pinpoints them follows them
throughout the store. retail next, which is one of the companies providing the technology, says the software is so specific, it can tell exactly where inside the store a person is standing and even which direction their head is looking. >> they know there's a person and they know what that person is doing but they can't marry it back to your personal identity. >> reporter: these heat maps are another tool. red areas are spots where people stood looking at products for a long time. still shoppers have mixed feelings about being watched by big brother. >> when they're storing data, figuring out exactlier where you go it's an invasion of privacy. >> and retail next says its technology is in more than 5,000 stores worldwide and that is just one company. nordstrom says it was testing the program. it ended in may. it didn't store any data, nor did it have any way of identifying individuals. but, wolf, still a lot of shoppers are just freaked out monitored through cell phones.
stores are saying this is our way of competing with online stores. obviously they have a leg up on them. >> certainly do. the technology i must say, breath taking to see what's going on in these retail operations. pamela brown, thanks very much. here's a question that a lot of us are interested in right now. ben bernanke, when he speaks, what happens? well, wall street listens very, very carefully. the latest remarks from the fed chief and how the markets are reacting. hi, i'm terry and i have diabetic nerve pain. i worked a patrol unit for 17 years in the city of baltimore. when i first started experiencing the pain, it's, it's hard to describe because you have a numbness... but yet you have the pain like thousands of needles sticking in your foot. it was progressively getting worse, and at that point i knew i had to do something. when i went back to my healthcare professional... that's when she suggested the lyrica. once i started taking the lyrica, the pain started subsiding.
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ben bernanke spent the morning testifying here in washington up on capitol hill, taking questions from lawmakers about the future of the government's massive stimulus program. alison kosik is over at the new york stock exchange following the reaction. what's the reaction so far? the open flow of stimulus apparently is going to keep oncoming. >> exactly. that easy money, that stimulus will continue to flow at least for now. but ben bernanke also says the stimulus will likely begin to wind down toward the end of the year and then wrap up completely by the middle of next year. what that's going to defend on is how well the economy does. the program could wind up being shortened. it could be extended. if economic signals get better or they get worse. on the one hand ben bernanke sup beat about the housing market which he says can only help the
economy. >> rising home construction and home sales are adding to job growth, and increases in home prices are bolstering household -- and consumer spending. >> on the other hand, while bernanke clearly acknowledges the job market is improving he also says it's still far from satisfactory. there are still 11.8 million workers out of work right now, wolf. he is considering that as well. wolf? >> he's pretty clear, though, as you know, that the fed would start pulling back on some of that stimulus toward the end of the year. when he keeps saying that, you would think the markets would be a little more upset. apparently not so much. >> you're right about that. it was last month, actually, that bernanke made those comments about pulling back on stimulus. it actually spooked the market. we saw big selloffs because of those comments. to be quite honest with you, i watched today's testimony. nothing really new came out of it. no huge surprise in this testimony. wall street is used to hearing about this kind of general road map of the fed, of scaling back
on bond buying as the economy improving. and this is what makes investors happy to hear. that there is a contingency. to know that the fed won't just pull the rug out from under the market if the economy is still struggling. it's no secret that the stimulus has been the main thing that's been propping up stocks this year. there are some concerns about how stocks are going to fair without that crutch. investors also know in the back of their minds that the punch bowl, it can't stay out forever. wolf? >> good point, alison. thanks very much. ahead here on the c"cnn newsroo newsroom", panama investigating a seized north korean ship. but they are coming up with more questions than answers. we'll have the latest. that's coming up.
it's a story of international intrigue. authorities in panama right now intensifying their search of a north korean ship that's loaded with hidden weapons. the ship remains at the panam n panamanian sport where it was seized. the senior u.s. official tells cnn the u.s. had been tracking the vessel for several days as it sailed from cuba. "rolling stone" magazine is infur rating many of its readers by putting the boston bombing
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