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but of course, we want to know what you think. how much money would you need to have to feel rich? let us know on twitter at erin burnet. "ac 360" with the pink paernlts "ac 360" with the pink paernlts starts now. -- captions by vitac -- tonight part two of rehab racket, billing taxpayers for a bundle and how teenagers that don't need rehab at all are being recruited to help. judge mtd day for bradley manning. he leaked 750,000 classified documents and videos but the question is, how much damage did he do? jeffrey toobin and glenn greenwald and later, believe it or not, $136 million in stolen jells was the tip of the iceberg. we'll go inside a heist gang some are blaming for that crime and more than 300 other rip offs the gang known as the pink pa t
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panthers. keeping them on nest in part two of rehab racket. we're talking about shady rehab clinics filing bogus claims for pan tom patients happening in the state of california but because it involving federal medicaid funding, we're all paying for it. $186 million in state and federal tax dollars over the last two years. a year-long investigation by cnn and the center for investigative reporting lays it out. operators billing the government for bogus clients and getting away with it, but maybe not much longer. in the wake we learned that 29 clinics have been temporarily suspended, cutting them off from state and federal money and there is a state senator after seeing last night's report is calling for a full audit of the program. we'll talk to him shortly. part two, how teenagers were roped into the operation. drew griffin keeping them honest. >> reporter: outside this drug rehab center in southern
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california teenagers from a group home are dropped off, but according to former employees of the alcohol and drug recovery center, many of the teens they saw come here over the years didn't have substance abuse problems at all. a one-year investigation by cnn and the center for investigative reporting found the drug med cal program in california that cost taxpayers half a billion dollars over the last six fiscal years is ripe with fraud and plagued with weak government oversight. victoria byers said she was driven in a van every week with other teens while living in a group home. >> we used to do drug tests, and we would sit in these classes. they would teach us not to do ectacy or whatever. >> reporter: she thought it was strange because she didn't have a drug problem.
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>> i told them why should i be here? i have no drug issue. i had to go because all the other girls had to go and they couldn't leave me at the house by myself. >> reporter: we obtained documents where she signed her name. that's a requirement allowing rehab centers to bill the state and signatures meant money. the more signatures, the more the med cal system reimbursed the clinic. michael remembers the trips to so cal health services as well. he says he was drif in a a van each week with other teens from a different group home. you've never abused alcohol or prescription drugs -- >> not at all. >> reporter: so all the time you spent there for three years, three years, was a waste of your time and a waste of taxpayer's money? >> yes, definitely. >> reporter: that doesn't surprise damara a former manager of so cal with the same
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operator. she estimated 30% of the teens didn't have a drug or alcohol issue, so counselors just made them up. >> it took an audit for me to know how deep it was, how deep fraud was going on in there. >> reporter: other whistle-blowers came forward and claimed so cal was creating drug fraud by labeling teens with fake addictions. riverside county officials said they didn't have an easy way to prove so cal was making up addictions but the county pulled the clinic's funding anyway because so many clients were dropping out. that forced so cal to shut down. the other clinic in los angeles county remains open. a report on palmona drug and alcohol center found serious and significant deficiencies in the program. the operator of both clinics is
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a man named tim agindu who says his business is a pillar in our community. the fraud allegations, they came from disgruntled fired, ex employees. he wouldn't tell us anything. drew griffin with cnn. >> who are you? >> reporter: i just told you my name is drew griffin with cnn. your former employees say you are billing for county services you aren't performing. he left without talking to us. mr. ajindu, if you have nothing to hide, why are you taking off? we found case after case with a history of problems that are allowed to keep billing the state. tamera is a former counselor at pride health services, she was told to bill for clients she didn't actually see. did you have client lists? >> yes, i had a client list. when i first got there, they
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gave me about 20 folders, 20 folders of clients that they had. >> reporter: did you ever account for the 20 cases that you had in your folders? >> no, i never could because -- >> reporter: you couldn't find them? >> some were in jail. one was dead. a lot -- >> reporter: what? >> one was dead. >> reporter: and still a client? >> and still listed as a client. >> reporter: she confronted the operator of pride. >> i told goffery i said i don't know how you want me to bill for clients i don't see and have and he basically in a nutshell told me how do you think these lights will get paid? >> reporter: he fired her. would you describe it as anything but throwing away taxpayer's money? >> yeah, just throwing away taxpayer's money. >> reporter: that was in 2009.
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regular radars found severe deficiencies at pride health services from 2005 until 2011 including evidence of ghost clients. two years ago, the county uncovered what appeared to be fraud length documentation used for billing, a state auditor urged pride be shut down. not only did pride stay open, it got even more medical money, more than a million dollars in a year. the most recent investigation brought by another employee accusing pride of billing for goes clooinients, county investigators couldn't prove it but did find the operation extremely troubling discovering missing paperwork, signed and dated medical wavers with no client information, and missing treatment plans. despite that poor review, pride is staying open. if the county investigators
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couldn't find evidence of ghost patients, maybe they should do what we did, go there on a wednesday when they are closed for treatment but apparently still billing. we saw no one entering the center on wednesdays. we'll go in. so we went in ourselves with hidden cameras. do you have rehab going on today? >> no. >> reporter: mondays, tuesdays, thursdays and fridays? not wednesdays? in group on wednesdays? today is wednesday. there is no group today? >> no. >> reporter: even though it's closed for rehab, pride has been billing for clients on wednesdays, as these records show, including 60 on the day we went in with hidden cameras and found no clients there. as for the operator, he told the county two years ago pride accepted responsibility for deficiencies. we went looking for him seen in this police mug shot for an
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unrelated arrest in 2003. hi, drew griffin with cnn. how are you doing? >> hi, how are you doing? >> reporter: is godfry in? godfry? >> reporter: markeeta jones denied any wrongdoing. we wanted to ask about an investigation of ghost people, people signing names and faking signatures and billing the state and county for treatment that's not happening. do you know anything about that? >> no, i don't. because that's not going on at this office. >> reporter: godfry never asked you to sign papers saying these patients come and they aren't? >> no. >> reporter: as we waited for them to show up, employees inside called police. they told us that the boss was coming, we're camped out here waiting for him to show up. then abruptly shut down for the
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day. did he call back and say he's not coming? we never heard from anyone at pride health services again. >> it's just unbelievable. i guess, the most upsetting is that despite repeated times that the county and the state knows there is fraud going on, these things stay open. >> right. what we're finding is a lack of oversight at a much higher level that we'd like to get to the bottom of. i mean, the regulators, inspectors are finding the fraud. report after report, they are finding the problems. >> right. >> the problem is nothing ever happens, and we can't seem to figure out why, who is it in authority that is allowing even after seeing the reports thanks is allowing these clinics to not only stay open, anderson, to grow. >> i want to bring in state senator lu. how concerned are you finding
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fraud in these clinics for years and they remained open but increased in value? >> i'm very concerned. a few days ago i talked to my chief of staff about increasing funding through rehabilitation clinics, because i believe they are a vital tool to preventing jail and prison overcrowding and reducing substance abuse. in writing my letter asking for more funding when the investigation came on and two things dawned on me. the first was outrage. i was surprised apparently how easy it was to commit fraud and second, i began concerned that not only could i not request more funding, but if that we don't fix this fraud immediately, it would under cut the public support for this program. >> that's one terrible thing because there is obviously people in need of rehab. it helps people and there are legitimate clinics out there but without proper oversight, we don't know which are legitimate and not. after seeing the report on the program last night you called for an audit on these drug rehab programs. what specifically do you want to see happen? >> so you're correct, this
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program has undoubtly helped tens of thousands of people. over 60,000 people were treated through them but i request an audit because i want to get to the bottom of what happened. an independent audit agency separate from the executive branch. >> i know the state is reacting so for 29 clinics, temporarily suspended but all that comes after we told the state what we were finding, what drew was finding. so can the people of california really trust the state audit? i guess that's the question. >> well, i think it's a good step for administration to suspend payment or shut down the clinic but i think it's important to have a separate audit agency in charge to conduct the audit to find out
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who knew what when and how do we reduce the weaknesses in the system and what laws or policies may need to be changed. >> drew, we're seeing some clinics temporarily suspended, some shut down. do you think the state is serious? >> i think the state senator is on to something. i think it needs to be taken out of the agencies that have been overseeing this, to have an independent audit and look at the big picture with oversight. the auditors, investigators found the fraud. nothing was done. that's the bottom line as far as reporting. whether or not the state, the agencies, health agency is serious about it, tomorrow night you'll see how hard it was for us to find that answer, anderson. and it was shocking for us to see state officials really refusing to address the problem and refusing to address us. >> and that's the thing, drew, as we've seen in so many investigations you've done whether bogus charities claiming to raise money for cancer or
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giving money to fundraisers f you have nothing to hide, they should grant you an interview. it's like cockroaches scurrying when you turn on the lights. people running in cars and taking off. >> you're right. we're trying to find out what happened to our money. >> right. >> our money and these are state public officials paid for with our money. so it's not outrageous what we're asking here. >> drew griffin appreciate it. we'll continue to follow your efforts and look forward to part three of drew's interview, investigation tomorrow and if you get a tip for drew on this or any other subject, let him know at let us know what you think tonight on our report, follow me on twitter at anderson cooper. we'll tell you which bug so to blame and private first class bradley manning accused of the biggest security leak in u.s.
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history charged with aiding the enemy and life without parole hears from the judge. her verdict and the debate and glenn greenwald who says washington's power brokers leak all the time and never pay the price. [ male announcer ] it's a golden opportunity to discover the heart-pounding exhilaration beyond the engineering. ♪ come to the golden opportunity sales event to experience the precision handling of the lexus performance vehicles, including the gs and all-new is. ♪ this is the pursuit of perfection. ♪ a quarter million tweeters musicare tweeting.eamed. and 900 million dollars are changing hands online. that's why the internet needs a new kind of server. one that's 80% smaller. uses 89% less energy. and costs 77% less.
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turning over three quarters of a million documenteds to wikile s wikileaks. the judge convicted him of violating the espionage act so he's facing 136 years behind bars. they touched off a debate over the harm manning has done and whether the government over stated the damage like edward snowden, private first class manning is called a trader by some and hero by others and frankly, everything in between. let's talk about it with jeffrey toobin and glenn greenwald. jeff, let me start with you. what's your reaction to the verdict? >> i thought it was a good verdict. i think the charge of helping the enemy was excessive and i think it was good the judge acquitted him of that charge, but i think what manning did was appalling. i think he betrayed his fellow members of the military and service and he should be going to prison and will be. >> glen, i know you disagree.
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>> i do. i think the verdict and i also think that jeff's comments kind of under score what a lot of people hate about washington, which is if you're rich and powerful in washington, the laws don't apply and you don't get punished. the only people that do are bradley manning. one of the theories they used was that he engaged in espionage and helped the enemy because the material he caused to be published on the internet was helpful to osama bin laden. bob woodward wrote books and published secrets more secret than what wood ward published and nobody would talk about bob wood ward the way jeff tuben did because he's in good stand income washington. they leak out tame. washington is nothing about leaks and yet, the only people that get punished for it are
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people that are marginized in washington and that's a broader reflection of how the law is abused. >> you do have people leaking all the time for political reasons. >> you do have leaking going on and we could have a debate on case by case basis but bradley manning released 700,000 cables including the life's work of a lot of foreign service officers that risk their lives and the people they talk to risk their lives to talk to american officials, and the idea that bradley manning has the right and it was somehow justified in releasing this material, i think is completely wrong, and, you know, bob woodward is a separate story and unrelated, as far as i'm concerned. >> glen, does the government in your opinion have a right of secret in the discussions overseas? those were things preventing the
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release. >> the government has limited rights to secret si but it's wildly abused. they say there is nothing significant or news worthy on these cables, then why were they marked secret? the government marks everything secret and the thing i find most bizarre is that anybody that would go into the field of journalism would call for the prosecution and imprisonment for decades on a source like bradley manning who didn't publish anything top secret the way sources for large media outlets do all the time. it's baffling what he did the job of journalist to bring transparency to what the government is doing, and even the pentagon admits early claims how he has blood on his hands and all this damage was overly stated. he released low-level secrets that informed the world about the u.s. government. >> it's not up to bradley manning to make the decision to
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disclose this. the people that wrote those cables devoted their lives to try to make the world a better place, particularly foreign service officers. i admire the foreign service a great deal, and i trust their judgment about what is a secret a lot more than i do about bradley manning. >> right, look, jeff, you can make that argument in every leak case. people in the 1960s said daniel ellsberg burg wwas a trader. i trust u.s. generals way more than a daniel ellsberg did was expose sis mat tick lies. in the bush years they said whoever told dana priest or the new york times that the bush administration was fine without warrant, what right did they have to disclose secrets? to this is how investigator journalism works, people inside the government with a conscious come forward when they find out
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things the government are doing that are wrong and disclose it to the world in media outlets and journalism. if you think that's offensive, you're calling for the end of what journalism is. >> i appreciate your education on journalism but releasing cables in that way is not the same work as dana priest and bob woodward. >> how about daniel ellsberg? >> he disclosed what he wrote, which is very different than -- than bradley manning disclosing hundreds of thousands of cables he didn't even read muchless right. >> you didn't know that he didn't read them. >> glen makes an interesting point, and accurate point that when this was all revealed, you had politicians up and down saying he has blood on his hands. you have people in the obama administration saying this is causing damage, long-term damage
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to national security and later on in secret testimony revealed in news outlets, they kind of said you know what, it was embarrassing but it didn't really amount to much. >> i have no doubt that the government officials here over stated the amount of danger, but that doesn't mean there was no danger. that doesn't mean that we don't know fully what the danger was, including the risk -- the fact that many people may not talk to government officials anymore as a result of these kind of disclosures. >> jeff, what legal president do you think this sets, if any, for edward snowden? >> a big one. i think snowden will be confirmed in his desire to stay out of the united states because i think their situations are very parallel in terms of the amount of disclosure that went on, and i think he's likely to face exactly this kind of prosecution and exactly this kind of result and sentence. >> jeff, what do you make the way bradley manning was treated
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and held on kconditions under which he was held. >> that was, as far as i'm aware, an appalling, too much done. it was inappropriately hash conditions but doesn't justify the underlying behavior that led to the case. >> glen, you posted on twitter and said so weird how most people who claim i respect snowden's act if he didn't flee, don't apply that to bradley manning. explain what you mean. >> it's interesting. so many people love to say of course we need more transparency and they find a way to attack whistle-blowers. if know den didn't flee, i would respect him and manning didn't flee and most of the people attacking snowden are attacking manning. manning is wrong because he didn't read the documents that he leaked. i can asure you every single document edward snowden turned over to us he very carefully read before he gave them to us and every single document is
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filed according to top pick. if what jeff is saying is true, the problem with manning is he didn't read the documents, he should be prizing snowden and he's been a hash credit tick. people have excuses to attack anybody that brings transparency to the government unless they are powerful officials in washington, which is okay. >> i'm not talking about powerful officials, i'm talking about foreign service officers on the street in every capital in the world and small cities around the world trying to gather information, report it to their superiors. the idea that bradley manning is the only one or edward snowden is the only one who has a conscience and who is descent and has the right to disclose the work of all these people is just probably absurd to me, glen. >> glenn greenwald, good to have you on and jeffrey toobin as well. an incredible jailbreak
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caught on camera. an armed robbery suspect takes a phone call and hurls himself through an open window and high tails to the a get away car. how the escape played out and how authorities think the fugitive had help. also tonight, fire officials think they know what cause that explosion to a propane gas plant in central florida, details ahead.
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the search is on for a man whose dramatic escape from an arkansas jail, the man had people help him conspire the attack up to the woman waiting in the car. >> reporter: this man is about to escape from jail in the ease with which he does sit breathe taking. his name is derrick estel and 33 with an extensive wrap sheet, theft, burglary, breaking and entering. this past march he had to be tear gassed out of an apartment after he stole a vehicle and wrecked it in arkansas. that brings us to the jail. he was here awaiting a court day on his latest charges. he's on the phone, but not necessarily talking to anybody. it's the beginning of his escape plan. >> there were two deputies in the booking room at that time and at that time it was actually also our visitation, sunday visitation for the inmates. >> reporter: estell starts running and jumps through a
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window he knew would be open and lands in the public lobby. watch again. looks like a bad cartoon and followed by a guard caught off guard and the chase begins. he sprint s as fast as he can to the parking lot and so do the sheriff's deputy but a car waiting. he gets in it and the car driven by a woman who is now is serious legal trouble, too. the deputy got up to the car as it was pulling out and hit the passenger window, but they got away. this is the car, it was later located without it's occupants. so how did this happen? how did a man now considered armed and dangerous get out of jail in less time it takes to run a 50-yard dash? first the phone call. inmates are allowed to be on that phone, which is in a good place for a potential escape, close to that open window. then there is this man, william harding, he was visiting the jail and the sheriff's office says he's partly responsible. mr. harding asked one of the
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deputy as question at that time they turned their back to get the information. >> reporter: harding who was free is now in custody. and police think harding and the driver of the get away car aren't the only ones part of the plot. >> seems to be well-thought out and evidently there were several individuals involved. >> reporter: authorities aren't saying much more than that as everyone here tries to figure out how something that is supposed to be so hard is made to look, so, so easy. >> unbelievable. a lot more happen gts. isha here is here with the 360. human error and equipment failure are likely to blame for the explosion last night according to a fire official. >> last night about 10:30 we had the first ignition over here at the blue rhino plant. i live about 2 or 3 miles away from here and it shook my house, so i knew it was bad right off the bad.
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so responded here with crews. we've been here through the night. the fire is out, so you're in no danger here. >> amazingly, only eight workers were injured. it took firefighters three hours to get the blaze out and residents said it felt like bombs going off. hillary clinton breaking bread again in washington. she had breakfast with joe biden. her potential democratic rival in the 2016 race to the white hou house, after she had lunch with president obama. the drill sergeant in the 1980 film and she starred in the sting and had guest roles in several other tv shows, brennan was 80. a new mystery at king richard the third understand aeroparking lot. they found a coffin inside the coffin containing unidentified
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human remains. this is just fascinating. a lead coffin. they don't know who is in it. they have a hole at one end of it and can see feet. >> wow, that's weird. >> yes, indeed. there is a hole -- >> i thought they already found his remains, so this is another cough snn. >> you're very right. it's found near where richard the third is buried. they found this coffin and inside is another coffin. they don't know who is it in but hey. >> quite an active parking lot. $136 million in jewels stolen in broad daylight. are the pink panthers to blame. talked to five members of the pink panthers and joins me with the brazen heist ahead. hey linda!
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crime and punishment, police in southern france are looking at surveillance tapes for clues in the brazen jewelry heist. they made out with $136,000 in jewels, the same hotel where alfred hitchcock's "to catch a thief" was filmed. it's the third gem theft since may and came days after a member of a notorious gang called the pink panther jewel thief gang escaped from prison. he's the third from the gang to bust out of prison in three months. the gang is linked to more than 340 robberies 2344 34 countries. in 2007 they drove two cars into
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a dubai shopping mall and through the window of a jewelry store and in less than a minute made off with jewelry. it's called "smash and go." i director got five of the gang's roughly 200 members to open up about the crimes and the elaborate smuggling members they use. the documentary is fascinating. you tracked down fve of the pink panlters. what was it like meeting them? >> each one was different. each personality was different and each was in a different scenario. one was, i had to go to a deserted war memorial. i wasn't allowed to take a mobile phone and had to go on my own and wait for another car to pick me up and things like that. there were scary moments, but then there were also moments that were extraordinarily relaxed and i couldn't understand that we weren't more paranoid about it. >> what interested you about this group? >> it's no coincidence that they
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all come from the same kind of time and place. they were absolutely straight, clear historical reasons why that part of the world was completely criminalized and why people in a sense were forced to turn to smuggling and crime in europe, which they were so good at it, it then snowballed to a global scale. >> you interview in the documentary one of the members, a guy named mike and talks about what the group is like. let me play that. >> i didn't have a badge that says pink panther on it. we're working together and as i was involved, i became part of it. everybody has a specific job to do. so we all depend on each other. those in the inner circle are called family. you get six from your own supervisor but a chain of command. >> it took authority as long
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time to figure out the operational structure. do they still have a clear -- i mean, do they have a completely clear idea how it works? >> they are a contemporary crime gang. they are much more flexible than the traditional -- sort of your traditional mafia. there isn't a straightforward higher ark ke er arer ark arch key. >> do they know each other? >> most of them tend to come from two particular cities. most of them grew up together in different parts. and they all seem to have forged those connections during those conflict periods of '80s and '90s. >> is there somebody at the top? >> people talk about someone at the top. you know, or an organize nigina
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panthers. there are people more experienced than others and people doing it for longer. >> there is more -- i want to play from the same person before, mike. >> i don't know why people spend money on diamonds. i don't like showing off. i have a rolex as a souvenir. the diamonds? they don't attract me. for me diamonds mean good cash. nothing else. >> it's interesting he keeps a rolex as a souvenir from a heist. are they rich? >> i would say, again, it comes down to the individual. there are some that have sensibly managed to invest their money into real estate or something like that, and they like to show themselves off. they are bringing money back into the economy where the government isn't. but i think an awful lot of them also investment into the heroin trade and a lot of it is just
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spent gambling and playing, especially. >> i mean, the diamonds, i guess are the easiest thing or one of the easier things to sell because diamonds are -- you can take them out of the settings and things like that but other things they steal are less easy. >> yeah, i mean, diamonds are their main -- their main currency and they -- i mean, they steal watches, as well and things like that but essentially diamonds are the key thing that they are most professional at and do the best at, mainly because they have incredible connections to diamond senses. there is a huge european sense of diamond trading. i was lucky enough to meet a contact of the panthers, mr. green, and he's the person they take the diamonds to. he gets them recut. he creates completely new sort of specific origin for them, and
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is able -- he has the connections to then sell them back into the clean market. >> it obviously too soon to tell with the latest robbery. i mean, do you have any sense of it? i mean, does it have the hallmarks of something they might be involved with? >> absolutely. you know, if it was discovered to be a panther robbery -- >> wouldn't surprise. >> it wouldn't be surprising at all. also, there are -- again, there are few people in the world that would know what to do with diamonds that valuable. >> right. >> and where -- how are you going to suddenly resale them? how will they disappear? the panther -- if we don't see diamonds suddenly being found somewhere, chances are, it's a panther robbery. >> fascinating. thank you so much. >> thank you. ahead a medical mystery. officials identified bug they say is responsible for turning a
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check back in with isha's 360 bulletin, isha? >> new details about last week's train derailment, the driver was on the phone with rail way staff when he crashed. he's charged with 79 counts of homicide. officials ceda to recorders show the train was going 90 miles per hour, that's nearly twice the speed limit for that church. health officials in iowa have linked prepackaged salad mixes for a stomach bug outbreak that sickened 100 iowa people and nebraska people. they haven't named the salad manufacturers. federal health officials don't know if the salad mix is linked to a wideout break of food poisoning affecting 16 states. >> and reports on tsa found misconduct cases rose 26% over the last three years, more than 3,000. 20% dealt with violating
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security standards such as allowing travelers to by pass screening. in kansas city three children and one adult suffered serious injury when is an suv slam into a car outside a daycare center, causing the car to push inside the building two. were trapped for a time but were eventually rescued. we wish them well. >> yeah, terrible thanks very much. ridiculist is next. y y couldn't e at a better time. these chevys are moving fast. i'll take that malibu. yeah excuse me, the equinox in atlantis blue is mine! i was here first, it's mine. i called about that one, it's mine. mine! mine. it's mine. it's mine. mine. mine. mine. mine. it's mine! no it's not, it's mine! better get going, it's chevy model year-end event. [ male announcer ] the chevy model year-end event. the 13s are going fast, time to get yours. current chevy truck owners can trade up to this chevy silverado all-star edition with a total value of $9,000.
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oh, yeah, time for the ridiculist and we have the lawn or thement that showed up in a woman's yard in georgia. not a garden gnome or anything like that, a kentucky fried chicken bucket. a 7 foot tall kfc bucket. the woman spotted it and feared she had to be imaging it. >> i thought for sure that i was hill lou seeing things so i called my teenagers to check and have them go outside. >> sure enough, the thing was
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there but why? she had no idea where it came from or who it belonged to. was it a message from colonel sounders? no, her landlord collects vintage signs and had it dropped off on the property. >> the bucket doesn't say kfc but kentucky fried chicken. it probably 40 years old. >> i didn't notice that. the landlord will kick it up a notch and mount it on a pole for permanent display. the giant plastic know globe your neighbor puts on the lawn around christmastime doesn't seem so bad. here in new york city we don't have yard sos we don't have to worry about those signs. we kind of do. the seinfeld clip. >> wow, kenny rogers roasters open. look at the size of that neon chicken on the roof.
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[ laughter ] >> what is going on in there? >> what? >> that light. >> oh, the red? yes, the chicken roaster sign. right across the window. >> can't you shut the shades? >> they are shut. >> i have to say the georgia woman who has an unexpected view of a giant kfc sign is handling the situation well. she's not sweating buckets. >> too often we need something to laugh about so i put it on facebook and told them i would bring chicken to the next pot luck. >> she points out there are other benefits to being that lady with the giant chicken bucket in their yard. who needs gps when you have kfc. >> it makes good landmarks. you can say come down to the giant kfc bucket and turn right. >> that is what i call the power of positive thinking in action. when life throws you a curveball in the form of a 7-foot tall fast food memorabilia in your front yard, make the most of it.
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we learned the original recipe for happiness. cross it off the bucket list on theory di ry diidiculist. theory di ry diidiculist. "piers morgan live" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- there is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. the jailbreak in arkansas, the whole thing caught on dramatic tape and also in arkansas, a small town teaches, no secret how i feel about that. an awful idea. but we'll hear from both sides on the grill tonight. i'll talk to a woman who has strong feelings about that and the bradley manning verdict and male pop tillations badly. quit isn't the way we roll in new york city. we fight through tough things. we're a tough city. >> tonight star jones on scandals high and low. wait until you hear about what she