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margaritas. >> that is it for "new day" it is time for cnn's "newsroom" with carol costello that begins right now. >> i went to my first jimmy buffett concert and i fell asleep. i slept through the whole thing. >> what? >> carol? >> #fail. >> i like my music a little heavier. chris, i'll see you in a minute. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom" a cnn exclusive. >> there is no doubt that when you start seeing chemical weapons used on a large scale is very troublesome. >> cnn sits down with president barack obama, syria, egypt, georgia and, of course, the newest member of the family. >> bo was starting to look a little down in the dumps inside
the house. and sunny, the new dog, she's only a year old and, you know, the truth is, she's faster than he is. she jumps higher. she's friskier. also, face-to-face. >> we made it. >> the 911 operator and hero antoinette tuff. >> she is a true hero. she missed her calling. >> i feel like i help somebody in need that god was able to use me and it was an honor to be able to be used. plus, woman after woman. >> he told me, your eyes have bewitched me. >> victim after alleged victim. >> and he placed his hand on my back, on my buttocks. >> slide his arm down and then give a little grab to my -- >> today san diego mayor bob
filner learns his fate. >> we're not just pieces of meat. "newsroom" starts now. good morning, thank you so much for being with me, i'm carol costello. o one-on-one with the president. chris cuomo and his exclusive interview. the most pressing concerns of his second term. dueling crises in the middle east and a time bomb facing middle class parents and their children. chris joins us now from new york to share some of the highlights of his afternoon with the president. morning, chris. >> carol, how are you? the timing was good for this interview. dealing with domestic agenda issues. he wants to work on getting the costs down for family and make it easier for graduates to repay. that's that. also how he's dealing with congress. what's going on with surveillance and privacy and, of course, the big problems abroad.
syria and egypt. many are demanding u.s. action. what is the president's perspective? what does he believe is the right posture for the united states? he was very open about it and also gave us a peek into life in the white house. what it's like now raising a teenager and a near teen and what this new puppy is really about. boy, carol, when you hear what that puppy has done in the white house. horrible things, horrible things. maybe federal violations of law. take a look. >> we are right now gathering information about this particular event. but i can say that unlike some of the evidence that we were trying to get earlier that led to a u.n. investigator going into syria, what we've seen indicates that this is clearly a big event of grave concern. and, you know, we are already in communications with the entire international community. we're moving through the u.n. to try to prompt better action from
them. and we have called on the syrian government to allow an investigation of the site because u.n. inspectors are on the ground right now. we don't expect cooperation, given their past history. and, you know, what i do believe is that although the situation in syria is very difficult and the notion that the u.s. can somehow solve what is a sectarian complexed problem inside of syria sometimes is overstated. >> but delay can be deadly, right, mr. president? >> there is no doubt that when you start seeing chemica weapons used on a large scale and, again, we're still gathering information about this particular event. but it is very troublesome. >> strong proof they used them already in the past. >> then it starts getting to some core national interests that the united states has. both in terms of us making sure that weapons of mass destruction are not proliferating, as well
as needing to protect our allies, our bases in the region. this is something that is going to require america's attention and hopefully the entire international community's attention. >> senator mccain came on "new day" very strong on this. he believes that the u.s.'s credibility in the region has been hurt. that a situation like syria, that he believes there has been delay and led by a boldness by the regime there. that in egypt, what many believe was a coup wasn't a coup. that led to the problems that we're seeing there now. do you think that is criticism? >> i am sympathetic to senator mccain's passion for helping people work through what is an extraordinarily difficult and heartbreaking situation. but what i think the american people also expect me to do as president is to think through what we do from the perspective of what is in our long-term
national interest. you know, sometimes what we've seen is that folks will call for immediate action jumping into stuff that does not turn out well. gets us mired in very difficult situations. can result in us being drawn in to very expensive, difficult, costly interventions that actually breed more resentment in the region. we have to think through strategically what is in our long-term national interest, even as we work cooperatively internationally to put pressure on those that would kill innocent civilians. >> the red line comment you made was about a year ago this week. >> right. >> we know since then things that qualify for crossing that red line. >> chris, i have to say this. when we take action. let's take the example of syria. there are rules of international law.
and, you know, if the u.s. goes in and attacks another country without a u.n. mandate and without clear evidence that can be presented, then there are questions in terms of whether international law supports it. do we have the coalition to make it work? and, you know, those are considerations that we have to take into account. >> you don't believe -- >> well, this latest event is something that we have to take a look at it. but keep in mind, also, chris, because i know the american people keep this in mind. we still have a war going on in afghanistan. we are still spending tens of billions of dollars in afghanistan. i will end that war by 2014. aer every time i go to walter reed and visit wounded troops and every time i sign a letter for a casualty of that war, i'm reminded that there are costs and we have to take those into account as we try to work within
an international framework to do everything we can to see assad ousted. someone who has lost credibility and to try to restore a sense of a democratic process and stability inside of egypt. >> doesn't have to be military, of course. i take your point, mr. president. when you look at egypt, it's an example of that. senator mcconnell is saying, hey, i think it's time to vote on the aid. and whether or not you give it. that's a nonmilitary measure that can make a difference. >> my sense with egypt is that the aid itself may not reverse what the interim government does. but i think what most americans would say is that we have to be very careful about being seen as aiding and abetting actions that we think run contrary to our values and ideas. so, what we're doing right now is doing a full evaluation of
the u.s./egyptian relationship. we care deeply about the egyptian people. there was a space right after mr. morsi was removed in which we did a lot of heavy lifting and a lot of diplomatic work to try to encourage the military to move in a path of reconciliation. they did not take that opportunity. it was worth it for us to try that. despite folks who wanted more immediate black and white action or statements. because, ultimately, what we want is a good outcome here. >> is it safe to say that we have a shorter time frame now in terms of what the u.s. can use as a period of decision in syria and egypt? >> yes. >> more abbreviated time frame now? >> yes. >> interesting. what do you suppose he meant by that? >> well, i think that's the question, right? the president is being very careful on this. he laid out some of the reasons
why and we let it play there, carol, on purpose because on these issues there is a very deliberative process. there's the need for coalition. here's the thing. such outcry because of the atrocities on the ground, especially in syria right now. that it has to abbreviate the time frame because there is a growing feeling that delay costs lives. but that said, the president, i thought, laid out a fairly clearly that the idea that you just assume american force isn't as simple an answer as it sounds to many, as well. >> you're going fobe back. hear more of your interview around 9:30 eastern time. chris cuomo, thank you very much. an emotional reunion you'll only see on cnn. school shooting hero antoinette tuff meets the 911 operator who helped her through that frightening confrontatierencroc. >> hello. how are you doing?
>> wow. >> we made it! >> we did. >> oh, thank you. oh, wow. >> yes. >> it was really a moment. >> i cried when i first saw that last night. when these two ladies first met it was by phone on tuesday when a man with an assault rifle and nearly 500 rounds of ammo entered an elementary school in georgia. tuff convinced that person to surrender without a single person being injured. >> i love cnn, but i have to tell you there are times i love it even more and last night with that interview that anderson did with antoinette tuff is just amazing. of course, it's her. but what we also found out is she didn't act alone. there was another voice on the phone and that is who we also got to meet. take a look at this. >> an amazing moment, only on
cnn. for the first time antoinette tuff, the coolest, calmest hero you've ever heard meets the 911 operator who had been the other voice at the end of that emergency call. >> we made it! >> we did. >> kendra said like everyone else she was in awe of tuff. >> she is a true hero. >> the two women recalling for anderson cooper the horror of that day. >> she said, he's right here at the door and i could see him through just her words. >> reporter: but their fear was never evident in the 911 call that has riveted america. >> oh, he just went outside and started shooting. >> reporter: tuff revealed the man's first shot was into the floor, just a few feet away. >> he actually took the shot to allow me and the other person who was in there to know that this was not a game and he was not playing and he was for serious. >> reporter: she also knew the lives of 800 students hung in the balance. >> you start seeing all this movement and he actually went to
that door with the gun drawn to start shooting. then i started talking to him and saying, come back in. just stay in here with me. don't go anywhere. stay in here. >> reporter: and so began one of the most frightening and fascinating negotiation as ever recorded. >> he said to tell them to back off. he doesn't want the kids. he wants the police. so, back off. >> reporter: the scariest moment tuff says was watching the man methodically load the gun. >> he had had bullets everywhere, on top of magazines. so, i knew when he made that last call that he was going to go. because he had loaded up to go. >> reporter: yet, instead of feeling fear or anger, tuff said she felt compassion. recalling her own personal heartbreaks, even contemplating suicide. >> i had been in that devastating moment when all of the things happened to me. so, i knew that that could have been my story.
>> reporter: just before her cnn interview, tuff got another surprise, ironically, over the phone, from the president of the united states. >> he just wanted to let me know that he and his wife and his family was very proud of what i had did and everyone wanted to thank me. >> reporter: all credit to her faith believing her role was part of a heavenly plan. >> i feel like i helped somebody in need. that god was able to use me. and it was an honor to be able to be used. >> reporter: the suspect had walked in with an assault rifle ready to kill. but in the end, was no match for a bookkeeper armed with love. >> i've never been so scared in my life. >> me either. but you did great. >> oh, jesus. >> you did great. >> oh, god. >> you can really hear there, i mean, the strain that this had put on you. >> oh, yeah. >> that moment when the police finally came in and he was taken
out, what goes through your head? what goes through your heart then? >> when i'd seen the police officers put their hands on him and they were all surrounding him, i knew i could just like breathe. >> you say to me one more time, baby, everything is going to be okay. >> baby, everything is going to be okay. >> that is, obviously, going to be a line that we will all remember. two very powerful women that relied both on their faith and, most of all, on each other. >> just incredible. >> that line that antoinette tuff used. i understand anderson cooper want it on his ring tone. so many charming parts. >> i want to have you on my speed dial. whenever i'm down, i want to talk to you. you're great. >> thank you. >> i want you to call me sweetie and tell me everything is going to be okay. >> it's going to be okay. >> it's going to be my ring tone. i'll get a ring tone with your voice saying, sweetie, everything's going to be okay. >> i learned that everything i've been through i was actually
telling god that even though it seemed like i've been through hell and back, i promised him december 31st that if he allowed me to live, that 2013 would be heaven for me. and, so, i know today that all i went through was actually for that one perfect day. >> such an outpouring of people saying how amazing you are. i just think you're incredibly heroic and that's a word that gets thrown around a lot. but you really are a hero. you save people's lives. >> you say to me one more time, baby, everything's going to be okay. >> hundreds of lives. we're talking about at least 600 students inside the building, plus the staff and plus the officers on the outside. nobody was hurt at all. >> well, you have to wonder what the future will bring for antoinette tuff. will she continue to go back to school and be a bookkeeper in a
school office? >> so many ways that a person with that kind of inspiration can do so much in their lives. she talks a lot about her faith. one thing she mentioned that we didn't show there is that she was inspired during that whole ordeal. she remembered a sermon that her pastor had given and it was essentially, you know, god is your anchor in times of hardship. that went through her head. that sermon heard just the sunday before. tell me things don't happen for a reason. >> i think god was there that day, too. martin savidge, thank you so much. we'll be right back. still to come in "newsroom" fire threat. flames as tall as buildings tearing through forests near yosemite national park. what is being done to save an american treasure? plus, the nasdaq shut down for hours trading frozen. a major trading glitch. opening bell just minutes away. you're live in "cnn newsroom." [ tires screech ]
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james johnson spoke to the "sydney morning herald." listen. >> i don't think it was for fun. i don't think it was at random. i think it was initiation. >> gang initiation. >> as i understand it. after that happened a list that pops up with my son at the top of the list and four others they were going to bump off. >> one of the suspects told them chris lane was shot and killed because the three suspects were bored. another suspect, james edwards jr., posted video of himself with a gun online. and his sister now believes he was, indeed, in a gang. >> i believe he may have joined in a gang because that they promised him so much. >> edwards' sister believes he was forced into committing that crime. more than a month of controversy in san diego could be over in just a matter of hours. the sexual harassment scandal
that surrounded mayor bob filner could end with his resignation at 4:00 p.m. eastern. the city council hears details of a proposed settlement worked out between the city and the mayor. he left city hall armed with boxes and other personal items but the bigger question remains. how much could san diego taxpayers be forced to pay to make mayor filner go away. casey wian is in san diego to maybe tell us. good morning, casey. >> good morning, carol. a very interesting afternoon here in san diego. as you mentioned, a city council meeting. a closed city council meeting 1:00 local time this afternoon to consider this mediated proposed settlement that would lead to bob filner's resignation. the key question, what are the details of that proposed settlement? all parties have vowed to keep those details secret until discussed by the city council. one thing we do know is that a settlement of the sexual
harassment lawsuit filed by the mayor's former press secretary, the first woman to come forward and accuse him publicly of inappropriate behavior is not part of that settlement. that according to gloria allred, her attorney. she came out yesterday saying they have no deal. they don't know what's in this deal with mayor filner. this proposed deal. further gloria allred saying we don't want any san diego taxpayer money to be used to settle this lawsuit. saying the taxpayer should not pay for filner's alleged misdeeds. what we may see is that the city council, which all nine members have publicly said it's time for mayor filner to resign. a small price to pay for some taxpayer money to go towards getting him out of office. carol? >> so, could we hear from bob filner some time today? >> that also is unclear. his attorney put out a statement late yesterday saying there will be public comment after the city
council session. but the attorney didn't say who that public comment is going to come from. we do know that the city council is going to speak and we don't know if filner himself is going to speak. >> casey wian, i know you'll stay on the case. thank you so much. a warm summer day in colorado quickly transforms into winter. that's not snow, though. that's hail. [ male announcer ] a guide to good dipping. little carrot. little bit of hummus. lonely wing... well we have got the perfect match for you. of course you can't beat the classics. delish... sabra hummus. dip life to the fullest.
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yosemite. the place has already burned 100 square miles and smoke in the area is so bad that several local schools had to cancel classes. indra petersons is following the story and kind of worried about yosemite. how are they protecting it? >> it is so scary. the terrain so extreme that is making it so hard for these firefighters to really be able to do their job. at one point 5% contained and even without a real weather problem it has gone down to 1% containment. now, the good news here. we'll start with that. no red flag warnings in the area. the reason for that, well, the winds are actually generally calm. but keep in mind, that's just in the surrounding region. it starts to create its own weather pattern. within the fire itself, you'll see erratic weather pattern out there. temperatures, well, we're seeing mid-80s not great and also not bad. humidity toughest concern here. we're talking about teens. at least not single digits. but in the afternoon we'll see
humidity drop to 17%. a visible satellite from yesterday. you can actually tell that is the smoke from the fire from yesterday afternoon. you can actually see it from space. there is so much smoke out there. this is one of the biggest concerns. we have air quality elerts out in the region. schools are having to close down and you can see without strong winds, yes, good that firefighters are having to deal with strong winds in the region and also means for the residents rezii residing in the area they're dealing with thick smoke in the valley that does not escape. you can see how much they're dealing with, carol. >> indra, thank you so much. checking our top stories 30 minutes past. bizarre story of domestic terrorism in las vegas. a 67-year-old woman and a 42-year-old man have been charged with conspiracy to commit murder and kidnapping. police say the two plan to kidnap a police officer, try the officer for treason and then execute him. the two claim to belong to a sovereign citizens movement that
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leadership will be will be a good thing for microsoft shares. microsoft up 8%. you can see over the past year how the stocks are done when tech stocks are doing well since the beginning of the year, middle of the year. this is what microsoft has looked like and now moving higher by about 8% higher here. steve ballmer. he is very close with a former ceo bill gates. they haven't announced who will be the next person to run the company. he's going to stay on for 12 months until they find a successor to run microsoft. and, again, the stock is surging on that. i got to tell you, though, carol, this is a stock, a lot of the stuff wasn't trading yesterday for three hours. major, major stocks weren't trading because that nasdaq glitch and that's something a lot of people are still very, very angry about this morning. everything is open. everything is up and running right now, carol. but to have a major stock exchange go down for three hours raising very serious concerns about how ngerous this
interconnected electronic trading system has become and whether humans don't know how to manage the risk from the machines that are running the stock market. 3,000 stocks affected yesterday, including apple and google and some of the biggest names in your 401(k). carol, i think a big hit to investor confidence. they got this thing fixed, they haven't explained what happened or promise it will never happen, again. but i want you to take a look at this. investors, regular people with the lowest share of stock ownership ever. right? people don't believe that the stock market is safe for them and absolutely appalling glitches like yesterday's only feed into that. so, you've seen wealth grow over the last couple years because of stock market wealth. that's been going to the smart money. not going to a lot of regular investor who look at things like yesterday and say, this is a casino played by a bunch of machines. i don't want to be in on it. i think it's very, very dangerous for ourability abilaw
wealth. still to come in the "newsroom" presidential praise. cnn's exclusive chat with president obama and what the president has to say about the school bookkeeper who averted a tragedy. >> i told her, i said, that not only did she make michelle and me proud, but she probably saved a lot of lives, including the life of the potential perpetrator. >> cnn's chris cuomo joins us with his exclusive one-on-one with the president.
interview. appreciate it. you know, it's nice to get a peek inside life inside the white house for the president. he may be the ruler of free world, of the united states. but also still has to be a parent and deal with all the issues that all of us do. take a look at what the president had to say. so, we have this horrible situation that was luckily avoided down in georgia. we saw something that we see too much of and then we saw something that we never see. we saw someone who is mentally ill that somehow wasn't being properly monitored and they find a weapon and then they create a tragedy. then we saw antoinette tuff. what do you think about her? >> she was remarkable. i talked to her today. >> i learned from the best. the best president in the world. >> i heard the 911 call and read the sequence of events, i thought, here's somebody who is not just courage and not just cool under pressure, but also had enough heart that somehow
she could convince somebody that was troubled she really cared about. i told her that not only did she make michelle and me proud, but she probably saved a lot of lives, including the life of the potential perpetrator. >> oh, absolutely. she was calm in the face of the gunman. did she keep her calm when she got a call from the president of the united states? >> she was pretty cool, too. she was happy about it. >> thank you, i really appreciate it. hope i get a chance to meet you, also. >> we might need to make a visit for her to the white house. >> that would be a great way to reward the behavior sdwr one of the things i see and one reason why i love these bus tours, you meet folks like this all across the country. every single day they're doing incredible stuff. usually not as spectacular and the stakes aren't as high as this one, but everywhere you go, you see people who are working hard, doing their jobs, looking
after their families, but also giving back to the community and, you know, sometimes i think in washington you lose sight of what exactly makes this country so great. it's not, it's not all the stuff that gets a lot of attention. it's that day-to-day courage, kindness, empathy that really makes a difference. >> on "new day" we call it the good stuff. reinforce the idea that people are going above and beyond. >> i appreciate it. >> my favorite part of the show. what is more daunting to you? the prospects of protecting the free world or dealing with a teenager and a near teen? what gives you more pause for concern? >> well, i got to tell you, and michelle gets all the credit. malia and sasha are just doing great. they are proiz oised, smart, fu. more importantly they're kind, they're respectful to everybody. i just couldn't be prouder of them. now, what i'm discovering is
that each year i get more excited about spending time with them. they get a little less excited. but they love me so they want to pretend like they want to spend time with me. so they'll come in to my office and they'll pat me and say hey, daddy, i love you. and they'll give me like a ten-minute conversation and then they'll say, okay, daddy, i'll be gone all weekend, i'll see you sunday night. >> is that what the new dog is about? >> there is an element from michelle and me, we see what's coming and we need to make sure we have somebody who greets us at the door when we get home. but part of it is also bo. bo was getting lonely because the two other puppies have grown up and, you know, they still have some responsibilities for him, but they're not always around between school, sports practice, all that stuff. and, so, bo was starting to look a little down in the dumps
inside the house. and sunny, the new dog, she's only a year old. and the truth is, she's faster than he is. she jumps higher. she's friskier -- >> every man has to learn that, though. >> he is trying to keep up and, ultimately, i think it is going to be great for him over the long term. right now, michelle is in full parenting mode and really focused on getting sunny to sit and, you know, catch and, also, there have been a couple accidents. >> oh, no. is that like a federal violation? >> well, we live -- >> that's a national museum. >> we live in rental housing. we didn't have to put down a deposit. we are making sure it gets cleaned up for the next occupant. >> he's right about sunny. sunny makes bo run. >> you know, it's nice. it's always nice to have some new blood and good for bo and good for the family and, you
know, they do have to try to keep some normalcy in such an abnormal existence, especially for the president. i think, carol, what really mattered there is antoinette tuff has captured our fascination for all the right reasons. right? she's showing just what grace under pressure is. and i thought it was interesting point that the president made that he sees her as a reflection of what he believes about this country. and that's an interesting perspective from the leader of the united states. you know, that he -- the way he sees her and what he valued and what she did on that incredibly faithful day where she certainly saved lives. >> you can see that in the way he described his daughters. he used the words kindness. they were kind to other people. that was one of the qualities he admired most in his own children. when you look at antoinette tuff. she defines kindness and love and belief in god. i totally get that. >> really crave stories like that these days. we really do. we need more of them.
>> they need to be caught, period. because that's senseless. beating an old man. what kind of person does that? excuse the expression, a wimp. police are searching for these two men seen on surveillance footage and as of for now the attack appears to be random. a maryland teenager was in the right place at the right time to help save three kids from a burning car. according to affiliate the driver had just crashed and a small fire was burning when 15-year-old mike ran to help. >> she was screaming on top of her lungs. my kids are in the car. they were 3, 4 year olds. in little car seats in the back. >> he got them out. able to get all three kids out just before the car exploded. the mother and her three children suffered minor injuries. the monsoon in southern arizona kicks up a wall of dust.
you're watching a sped-up time video. winds were so strong that 50 power poles were knocked down. at one point, more now from your exclusive cnn interview with president obama. he's joining chris cuomo talking about everything from college cost to gridlock in washington. where some republics are again threatening to shut down the government over obama care and there's even talk of impeaching the president. >> barack obama is a personal friend of mine. he became my friend in the senate. but that does not mean i agree
in any way with what he's doing or how he's doing it. i, quite frankly, think he's in a difficult position he's put himself in and if it continues, i think we're going to have another constitutional crisis in terms of our country in terms of the president. >> of course he was responding to one of his constituents questions. but these words from a man who calls the president a personal friend. well the president told chris cuomo why a friend would threaten impeachment. >> sometimes they say to me privately i agree with you, but i'm worried about a primary from, you know, somebody in the tea party back in any district, or i'm worried about what rush limbaugh is going to say about me on the radio. >> cnn chief political correspondent is here to talk more. i can't say i'm surprised by this but really, are there
grounds r impoaching the president? >> reporter: you know, i didn't hear the totality of senator coburn's statement. but i have heard a number of senators and congressmen one including ted cruise who i spoke to this week, talk about constitutional crisis. when they say that, what they're talking about is think believe the president has over stepped the bounds of the presidency by some of the things he's done. for instance they believe this idea that he's going to suspend an existing law which is the health care law for businesses for a year is not something he can do. do adisagree, no, but they think he's overstepping his bounds. they wonder about some of the thing he's dub op immigration needed to come through congress. so there are various things that he's done and they say he really can't do that. to me, when i talk to republicans, i have not heard
one of them say let's impeach him but there are those out there that said that certainly on the grounds. the republicans are concentrated very much on budget issues. >> let's talk about those budget issues because congress said the president is not doing his job when it comes to the budget pmt mr. boehner says congress should not be judged on how many new laws we create but how many laws rerepeal. >> they have stopped some. republics do complain when we talk about a congress that hasn't done anything. yeah, we've stopped a lot of bad law is their explanation that we should use a different dynamic to say how productive congress has been. this has been a congress that's passed very few big bills or any
bills for that mat per. but the republicans fundamentally disagree on a lot of what the president has done and that includes the president's health care plan which they continue to fight, though it's been a matter of law for almost three years. >> okay. well tell us what's coming up on your show this weekend. i understand you're going to be senator cruise? >> we will have senator tez cruise. we also want to talk to him about health care and what republicans would put in its place. republics object very much to our saying that republicans want to shut down the government. they say that is not the truth at all. we're starting with the maneuvering. you hear the president say the republicans want to shut down the government. what ted cruise says is we will pass a bill that funds everything that's being funded but after that want to stop all funds going to obama care. if the president chooses not to
sign that bill, well, he's closing down the government. you're going to see a lot of that dynamic going down. we're doing what our fom blgs want to do which is get rid of obama care which they say is forcing businesses to put people on less than full time. we will talk to him about that dynamic along with i jipt and a number of other subjects. >> candy krauly, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, carol. here's what's all new in the next hour of "newsroom." president obama schools congress. >> maybe you're not old enough to remember schoolhouse rock. remember how the bill gets passed ♪ i'm only a bill and i'm sitting here on capitol hill ♪ >> this is not that complicated.
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ryan was suspended for the rest of the season for violating the drug policy. guess what, he's not lying anymore. >> yeah, brawn is basically the lance armstrong of baseball, he doped, lied about it and attacked az accusers and now he's apologizing for it. he used a cream to help him overcome an injury. i kept the truth from everyone for a long time and i was in denial and convinced myself i did nothing wrong np in a letter he says he's committed to doing everything he can do earn back their trust an support. would you shea your beard for $1 million? >> yes. >> yes, of course, most people would but los angeles dodgers pitchers says no way. wilson has been offered a million dollars by 800 ray sores
to be an ak bas door. he turned down the offer and said he's taking his beard to the grave. >> the golden hurricanes now have the cutest mos cot. meet golddy. her job so to make apaernss and create smiles. how can you not smile at a dog studying in the library. she's got her own instagram account. she's got 1600 follows, be at all of their home games. they hope to train her to run out on the field and get the tee after they kick off. >> that would be awesome. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom" cnn's exclusive interview with president obama. >> i can't force these folks to do what's right for the american people. >> his frustrations in working
with congress, the nsa's mistakes and his new plan to help college students. plus, d-day for san diego's mayor. just hours from now he'll learn his fate. filner watch day 33 doctor's realize this is medication that can work for patients and they need to be able to obtain it whether they're rich or poor the great debate begin, is ben affleck really bathman materi material. is second hour of "newsroom" starts now. good morning i'm carol costello. one on one with president obama. chris cuomo scores an exclusive
interview with the commander in chief and we're breaking down the highlights. first off this hour, why another government shutdown may be looming. >> when they get back in session, do you believe you know the way to get things done for the american people so that that we don't have another shutdown of the government which punishing everybody but the lawmaker sns. >> the senate passed a budget and the house passed a budget. and, you know, maybe you're not old enough to remember school rock. >> no, i remember it. >> remember how the bill gets passed, the house and the senate try to work out their differences, they send it to me and potentially i sign it. we like to make things complicated but this is not that complicated. congress doesn't have a whole lot of core spobts. one responsibility is passing a budget which they haven't done
yet. the other core responsibility is to pay the bills they've already accrued. if congress does those two things when they get back then the economy can continue to recover and folks out there who are working hard or trying to find a job will have some sense of stability and we can start thinking about things like college education and some of the big structural changes that we have to continue to make to ensure that we're competitive. >> how much of the lack of action in washington do you put on yourself in terms to have blame? >> ultimately the buck stops with me. so anytime we are not moving forward on things that should be simple, i get frustrated. i've said before and i continue to say, i'm willing to do whatever it takes to get congress and republicans in congress in particular, to think less about politics and party and think more about what's good for the country.
then finally now what we've got is republicans talking about the idea that they would shut down the government, bad for the economy, bad for not just people who work for the government but all of the contractors and defense folks, everybody who is impacted by the sfs that they receive from the federal government we should shut that down because of republicans after having taken 40 votes to try to get rid of obama care see this as their last gasp. nobody thinks that's good for the middle class. i've made that 0 argument to my republican friends praiftly. by the way sometime they say to me privately i agree with you but i'm worried about a primary from, you know, somebody in the tea party back in any district or i'm worried about what rush limbaugh is going to say about me on the roop. it's really difficult. i can't force these folk to do what's right for the american
people but what i sure as heck can do is stay focused on what i know will be good for the american people. >> there's been a lot of discussion about what the nsa does and the surveillance programs. you have said it's not the business of the u.s. government to spy on its own people. the more that comes out, the more questions that seem to be raised. are you confident you know everything that's going on in that agency and you can say to the american people it's all done the right way? >> yes, but what i've also said is that it can only work if the american people trust what's going on. and what's been clear since the disclosures that were made by mr. snowden is that people don't have enough information and aren't confident enough that between all the safeguards and checks that we've put in place within the executive branch and the federal court oversight that takes place on the program and
congressional oversight, people are still concerned as to whether their e-mails are being read or phone calls are being -- >> especially when they heard they are. >> what was learned is nsa had accidentally pulled the e-mails because of technical problems they didn't realize. they presented those problems to the court. the court said this isn't going cut it. you're going to have to improve the safeguards given these technical problems. that's exactly what happened. all these safeguards, checks, over sight worked. now i think there are legitimate concerns that people have that technology is moving so quick that at 1078 point does the technology outpace the laws that are in place and the protections that are in place and do some of these systems end up being a loaded gun out there that somebody at some future point
could abuse? because there are no allegations and i am very confident knowing the nsa and how they operate is purposely somebody is out there trying to abuse the program or listen in on people's phone calls. >> you're confident in that in. >> i am confident in that. but what i recognize is that we're going to have to continue to improve the safeguards and as technology moves forward, that means that we may be able to build technologies to give people more assurance and we do have to do a better job of giving people confidence in thou these programs work. so what i've said is that i am open to working with congress to figure out can we get more transparency in how to oversight court works, do we need a public advocate in there who people have confidence in. but we have to do it in a way that recognizes that we've got some hostile folks out there potentially trying to do us harm. >> so you can see there it's
complicated situation but the president very strong about his feeling that congress should be doing its job. now how that message is received and what dynamic they figure out this fall in order to get the people's work done remains to be seen. >> yeah, because one thing is clear, the people's work is not getting done. hopefully they'll come to, i don't know, some sort of day taunt maybe? >> the way our process works, it's supposed to swing back and forth, right? we want ideas on both sides and they fight it out and find compromise that way. immigration is a really big instruction, a big example of what needs to happen. we didn't get to talk to the president about it and frankly his position really hasn't moved. it wasn't a news making opportunity in our judgment which is why we spent the time in other places where we needed to to show where the president was at this particular point in
time. that's an issue where you have almost die met cli opposed ideas of what the law should be about regarding immigration. they need to know how to work about. they need to remember it's about us, not them. >> we're going to have more on chris's interview with the president at the bottom of the hour. what washington can do to reign in the skyrocketing costs of a college edge occasional in other news this morning, a national treasure threatened as the california wile fired rages out of control just outside of yosemite jally. nearly 2,000 firefighters worked overnight trying to get the upper hand on a blaze that's less than 1% contained. >> reporter: good morning. the toughest ting they're dealing with is the extreme terrain in area. the weather, we do have some dry spots out there but that's really their biggest concern.
at one point was 5% don tand and now it's back to 1%. they're not seeing the moisture in the area. also in the afternoon as the sun heets the area up we're talking temperatures 80s and 90s, so not extreme. they do not have red flag warnings but they're getting close. also the winds, generally calm. you can see this. this is actually a shot from safe. you see the smoke out there. without the winds being strong enough we're talking about the air quality alerts and having to deal be all of the smoke snow plaus are getting some rare summertime work in colorado as heavy rains and hail make it look like wintertime. six inches of hail piled up in some places outside denver. they actually had to call out the snow plows to clear a path. the hail was up to an inch in ie
yam ter. it completely covered this football field the career of bob filner could be be over in a couple hours. the scandal that sur rounded filner could end with his resignation. at 4:00 p.m. eastern the san diego city council will privately hear details of a proposed settlement worked out with the mayor taen city. twice the week he's left city hall reportedly armed with boxes of personal items. how much could the san diego taxpayers be forced to pay to make mr. filner go away. casey wians live in san diego this morning. >> reporter: we don't know how much san diego taxpayers are going to be on the hook for bob filner's alleged misdeeds. the details of this proposed settlement that the city council will consider this afternoon remain confidential. i want to read you a statement that was put out late yesterday by one who helped negotiate the
deal. he said i joined these mediation discussion to ensure the city dpets the pest possible deal for the taxpayers. we must put this civic dysfunction behind us. how much do they pay him to go away in terms of covering his legal costs for the sexual harassment suit that has been filed, in terms of his pension benefits. he already stands to clek somewhere in the neighborhood of $95,000 a year in pension benefits. about 20,000 of this is from the city of san diego. the cost of him staying in office is significant. so that is something the city council will be considering. we will point out that all nine city council members have publicly stated that they believe it is time for filner to go. >> there are rumors floating around that filner is going to hold a news conference later today? >> question eve heard the same
rumors. we have not been able to confirm anything. filner's attorney put out that statement saying that after the city council has this closed session meeting to consider this negotiation there will be a public statement. they didn't say who that public statement would be from. we know the city councils are planning to talk still to come in the nmtz, antoinette tuff didn't run from a school shooting. in fact he asked him to come in the room and stay with her. >> come stay with me we're both going to be safe. bullets tonight have no name and if they shoot you, they're going to shoot me. ♪ [ male announcer ] staying warm and dry has never been our priority. ♪ catering to the conveniently located has never been our priority. our priority is, was and always will be
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checking our top stories at 16 minutes past the hour. shocking death in spokane, washington. a world war ii veteran has died after he was beaten to death on wednesday. he was called shorty by his friends. the friends and neighbors are expressing their outrage. >> to be caught period because that's senseless. man, beating an old man, what
kind of person does that but a, excuse the expression, a wimp. >> the police add for now the attack intend to be random. according to affiliate bay news 9, the 51-year-old man has been floating in the gulf of mexico for about 24 hours before he was found and rescued. he fell out of his boat during a storm. he didn't have a life jacket on. amazingly he's in good condition this morning. >> a major shakeup at microsoft. they've announced that the long term ceo will retire in the next 12 month ps. 'ben criticized for microsoft's lack of innovation when it comes to new devices. >> an emotional reunion you'll only see here on cnn. >> this is kendra mokray.
>> how are you? >> how are you doing? >> good. >> we made it. >> we did, oh my god. >> goods to see you. >> thank you. ourks, wow. it was really a moment. >> it was really a moment. when the two women first met it was by phone on tuesday when police say a man with an assault rifle entered an elementary school in decatur, georgia. tuff convinced the man to surrenderer without a single person being injured. her courage displayed when he demanded the gunman stay in there with her. >> he went out there to shoot at the police and they were shooting back at him. the bullets were coming from everywhere. i said come back in here right now.
don't worry about it. come back in here and stay with me. we're both going to be safe. bullets don't have no name and if they shoot you, they're going to shoot me. come back in here we're going to work this out. >> that's amazing that you were encouraging him to come back into the room where you were. a lot of people would be be happy he's out of the room where you are. >> he was firing bullets with him and they were firing them back and they knew that they were going to kill him. and i knew that he was not in his right frame of mind and he had all those magazines on him and i was know husband going to light it up. >> how did you remain so calm through this. >> i was actually playing on the inside. i was terrified but i just started praying knowing that if i get as hysterical as i was on the inside on the outside that he would wind up panicking. >> there were also some light hearted moments during that interview like when anderson said he wanted his own
antoinette ring tone. >> i want to have you on my speed dial. whenever i'm down, i want to talk to you. you're great. >> thank. >> >> i want you to call me sweetie and tell me everything is going to be okay. >> it's going took okay. >> imooh goi'm going to get a r with your voice saying everything is going to be okay. >> it is. >> it is. >> i was actually telling god that even though it seemed like i've been through hell and back, i promised him december the 31st that if he allowed me to live that 2013 would be heaven for me. and so i know today that all that i went through was actually for that one perfect day. >> there is such an outpouring of people saying how amazing you are. i think you're incredibly heroic. you saved people's lives. would you just say to me one
more time, baby everything is going to be okay? >> baby, everything is going to be okay. >> i feel pretty good myself now. a lot of people are saying they want to support antoinette. you can support for her page on go fund me.com. she raised more than 58,000 dollars for underprivileged children so they'll be able to travel and see the world. still to come in the "newsroom" were the higher benefits of medical marijuana come with a price tag but the nation's capital has a plan to cut pot prices. it's blew light special next. w . . . . i have low testosterone. there, i said it. see, i knew testosterone could affect sex drive, but not energy or even my mood. that's when i talked with my doctor.
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marijuana dispensary to subsidize pot for low income patients. >> those patients need to be able to obtain it whether they're rich or poor. >> they will have to set aside 2% of their revenue. dispensaries that don't comply would face a fine of 2,000 dollars per offense and risk losing their license to operate for multiple offenses. the marijuana policy project which advocates for legalizing and regular lath weeds says these discounts are a good idea. >> i think the original plan was to have the dispensaries contribute to a fund and that puts 0 the onus on the dispenries themselves. if you're on a low or fixed income you need to be able to obtain medication. >> at the recently opened capital city care dispensary within an ounce cost 380 to 440
dollars. they already offer discounts of 10 to 15% to seniors, veterans and low income patients and they say ear happy to do their part. met troll poll on the wellness also offers some discounts but the approach of discount or the fund that would be contributed to by the business isn't the best or most creative process. >> the rule is still undergoing the comment period. it's not a done deal yet still to come in the "newsroom," as millions strug wl student loan debt. president obama revooefs a plan that he says will help cut college costs but will it work? we'll talk about that after the break.
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happening now in the "newsroom," 37 million americans with a combined $1.1 april onin student loan debt. what president obama wants to do to relieve the burden. plus justice requires him to step down. >> bob, it's time for you redesign. >> for months san diego mayor bob filner has been urged to step down. today we may finally learn if he will. and this. >> love that. the caped crew saider unmasked. the new batman will be played by ben affleck. some critics are already predicts another daredevil disaster. >> good morning i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. checking our storying, the clock
is ticking in syria. the evidence will deteriorate in the coming days and the united nations is asking for access. jury deliberations have resumed in the case against the armmy psych tris who is accused of gunning down his former soldiers at fort hood. he face as death sentence. >> new numbers from the government show a huk cup in the houses recovery. now home sales dropped 13% last month. many analysts are pointing to mortgage rates that keep heading higher and a steady increase in home prices it is president obama's latest bid to bring some relief to the i.d. million class. he says higher education has never been more expensive and talked exclusively to cnn's chris cuomo about what he plans
to do about it. >> when you look at public colleges and universities, part of what's happened is state legislatures have dropped their support. and so the universities, rather than thinking about how do we save money and do more with less, they just pass on automatically those cost to students. and we've got to put, you know, some pressure on state legislatures. if you are serious about training a great workforce in your state, then you've got to invest in state universities and colleges and not invest in prisons which is what we did other a long period of time. one last element to it. once we develop the rating systems, part of what we're going to argue to congress is that we should tie in some way the way federal final aid flow to schools that are doing really well on this. so if a school has a higher default rate than it does a graduation rate, then we should
them a chance toism prove. we want kids able to get a degree and get a good job. >> congress has to pass legislation to get all of that to happen. he's dream a little bit this morning and think that someone will actually do something to lower the cost of a college education. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. good to be here. >> good morning. >> let's start with you, you heard the president. should colleges be penalized if students don't graduate and get a job? >> i don't think that would have help me at all. i've been paying on my student loans for 15 years. so any reform that happens from here on out is not going to help me or help anybody who is in the same predicament that i find myself.
>> so, what would help you? what needs to be done right now to g you some relief? >> well, first of all, i think the interest rates need to be capped at 3% instead of the current percentage rate that i'm paying. i'm like some adults who do a lot of volunteer work kind of just because this's the who we are. but i believe that we should be credited some, you know, that is time that we're spending that could be put towards student loan. how do we cut the loan down by our own service. those are some strategies that i immediately thought of that i would be willing to do. >> okay. so professor, let's move on to you. is it really fire to require universities to ensure that students finish schools? does a degree really translate into a job? >> does the degree translate into a job? with a high probability, yes. if you look at the unemployment
rate between college graduates and compare tight the people who stopped their education in high school, the difference is stark. so we hear lots of stories about recent college grads unemployed and the situation is not as good as it once was five years ago before the final meltdown. but getting a college degree remains perhaps the single best investment that a person can make in themselves. >> that's true. but you heard what the president said. in your mind, would that be a helpful thing to reduce the cost of a college education? we do know that state government taens federal government they aren't driving as much money to universities and colleges as they once did. >> yes. one thing you have to keep in mind is that cost and price are not the same thing. as states have diverted resources away from higher education and they're actually spending about 40% less, not in dollars but in comparing to the
size of the state's income, as they are redirected resources away from a higher education towards other pressing needs, colleges have had to make some choices. i think the president is wrong. most stiet clufrts have in fact learned to do more with less. but sometimes you can't always do more an what happens is that the quality of the programming suffers. this is one of the reasons that many state universities time to degree has increased and that's a cost on students. >> so can you get it to some specifics of why you think -- >> -- to focus on -- >> i just want you to get more into the specifics of why you think college costs are going up. why is that? >> all right, two things. first of all, if you look at the actu actual tuition, the average tuition that universities charge on average and subtract out f the amount of grant suspect the
student get, the average has been flat and at private universities it is lower than it was six years ago. but if you look over the long history, if you look back over ho or 50 years, almost all service prices go up more rapidly than the rate of inflation and it's particularly a problem in personal services like higher education and many others, legal services, medical services, getting your hair cut. the price of personal services goes up more rapidly than inflation because it's hard to get labor productivity growth. we don't have machines that replace what we do. that this is why the new push to think about digital techniques is one possible hope for getting some productivity growth in higher education. >> really what you're saying just to make it more clear for our audience, you're saying you need really high educated people in classrooms teaching kids and you have to pay those highly
educated people to do their jobs. you also need to very latest and best in technology in college as universities because people need to learn what's current and those things cost money. >> and, in fact, the way technology, the way technological change impacts higher education tend to be different than the way it affects the manufacturer of automobiles, for instance. in higher education we add a lot of new techniques and new technologies, new equipment because that is the state of the art for the world, the labor market that our students are moving into. if we did not adopt new techniques we would be quality of educational malpractice. we don't bring the new techniques in because they cut our cost. we bring them in to keep our education current. >> so does any of this make you feel any better? >> i don't think that we really
are addressing the individual challenges that people have. and, i mean, for example, i know someone who just finished her master's degree and her student loan was sold from one company to another and the price is going from $400 to $900. and the other thing we're really not addressing is the student loans that people take out is also subsidizing their basic living expenses and the textbooks. it's not just going to the university. but there's a certain degree of time that you're taking away from being employed in order to be successful in college. and we're really not addressing that, like myself, the student loans i took out help me eat and pay the rent. so it's not just paying for the school, it's paying for those things as well. >> you do get into trouble when you take out the private loans because you really don't know what the banks are going do with them in these times. >> my loan has been sold four times in the last 15 years.
>> that's ouch. best of luck to you and thank you professor feldman. we appreciate it still to come, a growing scandal and the potential for the mayor to resign. we're going the talk to one former san diego mayor who was in bob filner's shoes almost 30 years ago. i love it! how much do you love it? animation is hot...and i think it makes geico's 20 million drivers message very compelling, very compelling. this is some really strong stuff! so you turned me into a cartoon...lovely. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
we do have breaking news and it's pretty frightening. yosemite national park, the rim fire we've been talking about it's been burning outside of yosemite. fire is now burning inside the park. it's a dangerous thing because that fire has already taken 105,000 acres around yosemite. now it's lo kited eight miles within the park.
park rangers are warning campers that they may see black smoke. and if you're planning a trip to yosemite this summer, you should call the park first to see if where you're staying is safe. again, that huge wildfire burning out west has now entered yosemite national park. we'll keep a close eye on this for you it has been a long strange nont san diego and it may be over in a few hours. that's when the city council meets in a closed session to go over a proposed deal. it could force the taxpayers to pay in order to get past the sexual harassment scandal. filner watch reaches day 33. quite possibly the most anticipated day of the whole ordeal. those calling for the resignation is former mayor
hedgecock. are you surprised this has drag on as long as it has? >> actually i'm surprised that it's going to be over as quickly as it's going to be because we were already embroiled in a big recall campaign that would have taken many month to resolve. >> a lot of people have said that mayor filner is very stubborn and even though this are rumors saying he's agreed to a deal, there are rumors he's not going to do it. what do you think? >> the city council has to decide whether to spend public money in effect to defend the harassment lawsuit and let filner get off the hook on that lawsuit in return for his resignation. that's going to cause a lot of angst here in time. but on the other hand getting past bob filner is the goal of about 81% of the residents of
this city. it's something the city council is going to wrestle with this afternoon. >> what should mayor filner do? should he not accept city money and just resign? >> i've urged that for a number of days because as you pointed out, i was in this position of some 28 years ago of having to realize that the bond of trust that you have to have with the voters if you're a political leader that allows you to be a political leader was shattered in my case, it is shattered now in bob filner's case. i came to a real lie zags that even if i won my lawsuit, which i did eventually, it would not help the current situation of a city that was basically paralyzed. we're in that position today and bob filner ought to resign today. >> take us into the mind of a politician. a lot of people say, i can't believe that mayor filner would want to stay in office knowing that 81% of the people of san diego want him to resign. why is he so stubborn? why is he hanging on to his job?
>> i think he's hanging on to a dream. he's got a progressive agenda of the way he wants the stoi go. he's been very much hand and glove with the labor unions and issues that have been coming up in his ageneral can in the city. he's committed to this agenda and has been committed to it his entire life. it is his life's work to be here. u's not so much being personally stubborn. he's being very committed to what he wants to achieve. >> the city has been paralyzed for a month now. thank you so much for being with me this morning. >> thank you. >> before i mo on within an invitation for mayor filner. we would love to hear your side of the story. we've love to have you in the "newsroom" or on camera. still to come, a senseless murder by all accounts. now one of the suspects accused
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race relations in crime have been big stories across the country. i'm going to read you one tweet from one of the kids who is suspected in this awful killing. 90% of white people are nasty #hate them". is this a hate crime? how about finding a jury. because once you start ramping it up like this, it tends to be that people start marching in the street that that has not happened. we're going to dig into a lot of the parts of this story. it's troubling any way you look at it. >> we look forward to it. still to come in the "newsroom," ben affleck will be the new batman. he is bad enough to play the new bat?
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