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her between the president and boehner, asking about miley so she's doing something right. i think she's getting great attention. i happen to like her. >> donald trump it's always good to talk to you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. thank you, piers. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome to "ac 360 later." thanks for joining us. on the table tonight, christiane amanpour speak to a girl targeted by the taliban. we'll hear perspective on the web site. and are lebron james and peyton manning making kids fat? we begin with breaking news in day ten of the government shutdown, double digits now. the news tonight seems to be good, though. both sides are talking. take a gasp. actually talking. that sadly actually does count as real news in this environment. talking about it here at our table tonight, cnn senior
analyst, choon political commentator and cnn commentator and republican strategist and shortly joined by dana bash. good news tonight? >> i think so. yesterday we began to see some thawing out. today there's been more thawing out. they're talking. they're saying everything's on the table. they're beginning to do what people should do when they're in the midst of making a deal and a negotiation, which is actually sit down face-to-face, talk to each other, throw around some different proposals and weigh them seriously. so definitely i think this is better than where we were ten days ago. >> anything off the table? >> i love how she keeps a straight face here. this was what representative jack kingston said from georgia. you know what reopens shutdowns more than policy are the polls. you have a string of polls coming out today showing the damage that house republicans are doing to your party. and i know your good friend jeb bush is probably looking at this well sort of problematic because you're absolutely killing your party. republicans right now --
>> what does jeb bush have to do with it? >> he wants to run for president at some point. but republicans have registered the lowest rating ever in gallup. >> let's look at some of the polls on the screen. >> really must we? >> who do you think is more to blame for the shutdown? president obama 31%, republicans in congress 53%. both equal 13, not sure say 3%. next poll here, if you could vote to defeat and replace every member of congress would you? yes? 60%, no 35%. >> let's talk about the main news of the day, which is that john boehner came out and said they now have a proposal to extend the debt ceiling for six weeks. that's considered progress. there was absolutely nothing said by boehner about reopening the government. i think it's so pathetic that our idea of progress now is avoiding a financial catastrophe but still not talking about reopening the government. >> let's bring in dana bash who's in washington. dana, explain what is now on the
table, what is being debated. as jeff was just saying, boehner came out saying just to lift the debt ceiling, president obama it seems like said no, we got to work on both of these things opening the government and the debt ceiling. >> reporter: that's exactly right. and i just talked to a republican source familiar with the meeting that went on tonight. and we are told that they really went round and round for about an hour saying effectively what you just laid out. the president saying come on, guys, we got to open the government. and republicans in various ways saying that they want to first deal with the debt ceiling. they got to get that passed. and then they want to sit down maybe over the weekend and start talks. and i'm told, so is our congressional producer that a key moment that happened in tonight's meeting was actually between paul ryan, the president's former opponent of vice president candidate, and the president where paul ryan effectively said, look, we the republicans we're not going away. let's try to figure out how to work this out together.
and it seems as though everybody was so exasperated by going round and round for an hour that the president said, you know what? okay. if you guys think that you can work out a way to reopen the government, to pass a funding bill that will make everybody happy, have at it. go ahead and work at it. that's exactly what's happening right now. >> dana, let me just quickly bring in republican congressman james langford joins us live from capitol hill as well. is obama care, the idea of changing it, of altering it in some way, defunding it, is that off the table now for house republicans? >> what's interesting is that's still on the table for us. that's still an ongoing part of our conversation but it hasn't been a part of this particular conversation in two weeks. that's not been news. the last proposal that we put out as house republicans was to remove penalty for the first year for people that made a mistake or didn't want to sign up for obama care just the individuals. businesses already have had the penalties removed from them by the president. we asked for individuals to get
same treatment as businesses did in the first year. and then to apply obama care equally to the white house and to members of congress. and so that's already been there. i know there's been a lot of statements to say we haven't moved. we feel like we have negotiated this. and i would take issue with a couple of things that dana had mentioned earlier. she was pretty close on a lot of those things. but actually being a person in the meeting i can tell you that there were a few discrep an says things she was mentioning there. >> like what? >> well, simple things like it was an hour and a half meeting. we did go round and round for about hour then had some breakthrough moments on it. but we've tried to talk for two weeks to say we should meet together and negotiate this. the impression is left that we really want to keep the government closed, but we'll do the debt ceiling on it. we really want to do both. we want to be able to bring it forward, but we also want to be able to talk about this. for two weeks we've had a proposal out there saying let's just meet face-to-face and finally today we meet face-to-face. this was not about polls. this is where we were two weeks ago. >> i want to bring in dan that go ahead. >> reporter: first of all,
congressman, i certainly did not mean to least impression that you didn't want to reopen the government. >> oh, no. >> reporter: in fact what i said was that i think you do want to do it but wanted to deal with the debt ceiling first. so i think that we're all agreeing on that. what i've heard, maybe you can say if this is accurate, is that the news "wall street journal" nbc poll that anderson and folks were talking about just moments ago hit republicans like a ton of bricks tonight. for lots of reasons, but because of the numbers, because it shows that people are so much more angry there you see republicans in congress 53%. they get the blame. and there are other numbers that show that it's even worse for republicans. and that that -- a couple of republican sources said that that hit you guys like a ton of bricks. and so you all do want to reopen the government. you feel like it's enough already. you've made the point, especially to some of the conservatives in your caucus that you tried this road, it didn't work. it's time to reopen the
government. i'm sure you're hearing like we are from your republican friends in the senate that they're done with this. they really want to move on. >> true. the one thing i'd change in that, it wasn't just the poll numbers that have come out today. from the very first day there were poll number issues. no one wanted to get to this point on it. the issue was two weeks ago we said we wanted to meet face-to-face. it took us two weeks to finally meet face-to-face with the president. we said we'd meet face-to-face with the senate or president either one. for two weeks they said no. today we make progress when we meet face-to-face. >> congressman, you said you want it reopen the government. here's an idea. why don't you reopen the government? >> why is that funny? why don't you just pass a continuing resolution? you could do it tonight and then continue negotiating. if you want to reopen the government, reopen the government. >> well, we would be glad to do that, jeffrey. you know, you've watched through a ton of negotiations over the course of the years.
we're dealing with multiple things here. dealing with the debt we were in the same spot we've been at the entire past three years in this spot to negotiate it. we have to find ways to be able to stop doing debt ceiling increases, looking at long term environment spending that you've been so sharp on for so long and say we've got to find a way to start chipping away at all the obligations we have as a nation we can't keep up with. a lot of things like the affo affordably care act. >> the government of the united states is going to stay closed while you deal with all those issues. >> no, not necessarily. there are simple ways to be able to get through this. the first goal for us was actually be able to sit down and find negotiations. i think what you're going to find, we've had a rational position all along. no one would talk to us on it. as we walk through and try to finally get to negotiations tonight and they're ongoing people are going to find out we're very reasonable on this. we just want to be able to be in the middle of the conversation to say let's all admit there are real problems with the affordable care act. some folks will say yes, there
are problems but we don't want to deal with it. we're sayinging we have to deal with it. people are paying higher fees. people are going to be quite surprised when they finally do get through the web site on it. there are lots of issues with small businesses. let me give you one example. in my district there's a husband and wife that own three franchises. the franchises all have extremely small profit margins so they own all three of them together to be able to hobble through a living on this. they are right now looking at divorcing as a couple because if they keep -- they're still married and they have all three of those franchises. they'll fall into the 50 or more limit and then suddenly they can't keep up. their profit margin is not large enough to be able to keep their business. so the solution for them is to legally divorce and so that one person can own two of them, the other person can own one. they can still maintain and be able to live. that is a crazy thing to do for it because of the affordable care act. that is multiplied around the country as people have to reshuffle their business, figure
what to do, change their insurance. real problems are happening out there. we can't continue to ignore that. >> congressman, one of the tragedies for me as a republican of this calamity that has happened in the last ten days for our party and where we've gotten, because we've been playing this out, there's been no attention paid to those issues that you just pointed out, those problems that there are with obama care. so i think we are giving frankly the white house and president obama a way out. we have been the distraction. we've taken all the air out of the room. and i think the smartest thing right now is to really figure out how to get to a solution. i am glad to see the movement you guys are making. i hope you are responding and you are as the senate is reaching out with some proposals that to me sound very creative, but just keep the lines open. >> i just want to ask a simple question. we had this debate about obama care and we had an election that -- elections we've had this debate and we lost it. but my question really is this. is this a way to govern,
congressman? is this a way for us to govern moving forward if democrats don't like something we shut down the government that a republican did, republicans don't like something they shut down the government to sort of rehash what was already debated? is this a way for democracy to behave, really? >> well, this is a way that democracy has behaved for the last 40 years. are you implying the eight different types that tip o'neal shut down the government or newt gingrich or bill clinton? this is not something we should ever want to have happen or occur but it is obviously something that has happened over and over again. our economy has continued to thrive and people go forward with it. we want to try to avoid this at any point as we can go forward on it. it's not like this is brand-new. i'm glad you think our economy is thriving. i'm sure the president will thank you for that support for his stimulus package. but truth of the matter is this is a little different, congressman. you have republicans in your caucus threatening to take us over the fiscal cliff. this sort of extremism quite frankly i think you have to say it is new.
when you look at the polling it's new because republicans are hitting an all-time low in gallup polling. i think most americans think this is different, congressman. >> well, i would say that's interesting for you to say on that since we just proposed 2k50 dealing with the debt ceiling before the deadline today. we're not driving to drive us over the cliff, resolve some real issues and say there are real problems let's deal with them. >> congressman langford, appreciate your being on. dana bash. a lot more to talk about. the web site that's almost unusable, healthcare.gov we'll discuss what's going wrong with it and what's going on with the architect of both obama care and romney care. that's next.
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welcome back. more on our breaking news. talks continuing between house republicans and the white house. at stake raising the debt ceiling and reopening the government. this all started when republicans tried to defund obama care. that didn't happen. however the web site healthcare.gov is kind of a mess. since its launch october 1st it's been plagued by slow connections, error messages. frustrating for many who have tried to sign up. >> it's just frozen. >> i've been trying to log on owl day and have not got through. >> it says we can call customer service, but i think we would probably just get a busy signal. >> they tested it. they told us they've been testing it. >> we've gotten errors and road blocks and some confusing requests to download software.
>> you'd think that they would know that they've got the critics standing on their shoulder. >> outside analysts have said poorly written code, out of date applications are a big part of the problem. back with my panel. i want to bring in a bona fide expert on all this, mit economist author of massachusetts romney care and obama care. when asked the differences he said they're the same bleeping bill. appreciate you joining us. how bad is this? i don't get why this signature piece of legislation for this administration, an administration which had a much vaunted online presence during the campaign, why it would have this many glitches more than a week out. >> this is, anderson, this is a very complicated piece -- process. very politic kated piece of software. and the key point is not october 1st. the key point is january 1st. that's the point where people have to have health insurance. the administration could have
said look we'll put it online at the end of november so people can get health insurance. instead they said let's put it on october 1. that gives us six to eight weeks to figure out the glitches so when people need their health insurance for january 1 it's good to go. >> they didn't put it out saying there's going to be a whole ton of glitches but we'll put it out there anyway. is it smart to put out a product which people are so frustrated with they can't use and then to tout how many people are trying to get on the site and not actually even come up with any numbers for how many people have actually been able to create accounts, which i just don't believe the government doesn't have those figures. it's bad p.r. for them to release it. my guess is not a lot of people have been able to actually sign up. am i wrong? >> look, i'm sure they'd be much happier if it was going better. no doubt. the point us you've got to put something like this online to figure out the glitches. take it through its paces to see where the problems are. in massachusetts we passed our law in october of 2006. by the end of 2006 we only had
18,000 people signed up. one year later it was 160,000 people. it takes awhile to work these things out. and the key thing for the administration is the pressure's not really on yet. the pressure comes on by the end of november when people need to get signed up. >> the question i think a lot of people have is, is the problem the web site or is the problem the underlying law? we all know that web sites don't work that well. the worry, though, that a lot of people have is that it reflects some problem in the law. what do you think? >> i don't see why this says anything about a problem in the law. once again this, law's been tried. a rare case in american democracy, we have run the experiment first. we did it in massachusetts first. the web site there is delightful. people can check it out at mahealthconnector.org. this will work fine. it's going to take time. we need to keep calm, recognize that we're buying a product you couldn't even get until january so it doesn't really matter if you buy it now because you can't get it until january.
yeah, there's going to be some glitches. the last major government insurance program medicare part d a beloved program now had huge glitches the first few months. people calling for the program to be repealed. these things just take time to get right. when you're making a major change like this, nothing wrong with the law. just like nothing wrong with medicare part d. technical barriers to getting it up and running. >> when is it that i can start calling glitches a debacle? in november? is that what you're telling me? >> i believe that if they do not have -- let's define what glitches mean. i believe it if by the end of november most people cannot get on and get their insurance that is a big problem. but not everyone has to be able to get on and get insurance. i think you have the congressman on previously talking about an example of a problem. there's going to be problems with this law the there's problems with he law. the question is are you going to highlight the few problems or on average is the system working? i think by the end of november on average the system has to be working. >> you talk about the
massachusetts web site working delightfully. and i know that there are some of these exchanges that are being run by states where the web sites are being run by states. is there a difference that you know of of how those are working vis-a-vis how the federal government one is working? >> some are working better, some are working worse. it's basically there's a huge disparity in how they're working. some states have said, look, we're just not quite ready to go on yet and haven't started yet. others like massachusetts is working very well. so i think there's a big disparity. i think once again, we have time to get this worked out. when you ask about sort of what's the key date, i think the key date is kind of is it working for most people by the end of november. if it is then that's great. but we can't hold to a standard that it has to work perfectly for everyone. >> i think quite frankly this is a problem you want to have. we have so many people trying to get health care that we're having -- they're crashing the site. this is a problem we want to have. [ overlapping speakers ] >> let me take you back stay on message. appreciate what i do here, anna.
salt lake newspaper headline on one side said [ inaudible ] on the other side headline of utah family gets health care coverage for $123. and that's what the reality is, that people are signing up for this and people who can't afford health care, people who have been one health care issue away from bankruptcy are now signing up and getting health care. >> do you get the salt lake paper delivered to your house? >> i read. [ overlapping speakers ] >> i read that article. ted cruz and mike lee have take an huge hit for this. and it was warned to them that this would happen that this would happen to the party. but they wanted to try anytime their own state. >> is cruz a double agent? >> i think you are. you're wearing ronald reagan cuff links to me. >> appreciate you being on. christiane amanpour has just spoken with the incredibly brave 16-year-old advocate for girl's education in pakistan nearly died when she was shot in the
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after the taliban banned girls from school. she nearly died for her cause last year when a taliban gunman shot her in the head. our christiane amanpour spoke with her just this evening in a riveting conversation. here's malala talking about that day last year when she was riding home from school and the gunman got on the bus. >> he asked, who is malala? he did not give me time to answer his question. and my friend told me -- my best friend that at that time just squeezed my hand, pushed it with force. you do not say anything. then in the snext few second he three bullets. one bullet hit me the left side of my forehead just above her. it went down through my neck and into my shoulder. and i think i was hit by only one bullet. and it also affected my ear drum, so now i have problem in listening as well.
it also cut down my face now. but still if i look at it, it's a miracle. my brain is healed. my spinal cord is safe. everything is fine. i am alive. i still can talk, i can smile. so i thank god for that. >> incredible moment. christiane amanpour is here as well as jeff toobin, anna navarro and robin quivers koe host of the howard stern show and author of a new book we'll talk about in just a little bit. it's all about healthy eating which i have now become sort of obsessed with. anyway, what was she like, christiane? >> amazing. that is an overused word. and i know people know so much about her because of her story and she's been on various interviews and she's promoting her book and this and that. but there was something completely magical about sitting with her and her father. she's so close to her father. this in itself is so unusual in that part of the world. her father spoke about how when a woman -- when a mother has a girl, it's a cause for a lot of grief and tears in pakistan.
when you have boys everybody celebrates and you have parties and this and that. and yet he developed this incredible love for his daughter. and he's so progressive and such a free thin free thinker. that's what he taught her. he said he doesn't have a regret sort of pushing her and being bind her. the government weren't taking on the taliban. the police weren't taking on the stall taliban. the only people talking about the taliban was malala and her father. she talks about her cause. she said they may have pierced my body with the bullet but they have not taken away this cause and this mission. >> let's watch. >> the thing is, they can kill me. they can only kill malala. but it does not mean that they can kill my cause as well. my cause of education, my cause of peace and my cause of human rights, my cause of equality will still be surviving. they cannot kill my cause.
[ applause ] >> christiane, how is the cause doing in pakistan these days? women's education? >> the thing is it's better but it's not good. there are still tens of millions of young pakistani kids out of school, many of those, most of those are women. the taliban was there terrorizing the swat vail. and listen, they've threatened to kill her again. they have threatened to finish her off. >> you work on this. >> i've been involved with the united nations girl up campaign, which is about educating people here about the plight of women around the world and providing that support to girls to get an education. what the u.n. has discovered is that in countries where women are not freely given an education, they have unstable governments, and poor economies. and so it hurts the entire fabric of a nation not to educate its women. >> it's also interesting in so many countries, we see this in
congo as well, when groups go after women it's a way of destroying the society. >> absolutely. >> when an insurgent group goes into a village they target the women because that destroys the family, the village life, the people who are doing the hard work in many of these societies. >> so the taliban outlaws schools for the girls. she begins anonymously blogging for the bbc in 2009. she was then 12 years old. she's now 16. i wonder, has she had a childhood? is she having an adolescence? >> do you know what? not really. although she is so wise. i say she's also a prodigy. i truly believe it. i've never spoken to a girl of that age or anybody of that age with that much aplomb and self-assuredness. you might very well ask her has she been robbed of her childhood. she said that this was what i was meant to do. i was a young girl who knew that if i didn't have education i wouldn't have a life, much less
a childhood. she told me about her friends who were the same age as her, and she talked to one of her best friends. she wouldn't say her exact name, but she told us on the stage tonight she had talked to her friend, she had called her, and this friend had one child already and another one on the way. >> that's what i was going to say. >> she was 16. >> none of these women -- these girls are having a childhood. they're married off early. they have children in their teens as they are still children. they are just subjugated their entire lives and -- >> girls not allowed to go outside the home often unless they were accompanied by a male relative. she talks about going into the marketplace. let's play that. >> whenever i used to go to the market, cover your face that. man is looking at you. that man is looking at you. i said mom, i'm also looking at
them. >> so you asked about her childhood. she's got a lot of humor. she's a teenage girl who also has feelings for boys as she just made clear. i asked her, what do you do when you're not an education activist? she said well you know, i like justin bieber. i like selena gomez. she also is a young girl who's part of our world. and even though she has been shot and nearly killed, she is not a victim. she is not a victim. and she absolutely refuses to be silenced. >> she lives in london or england? >> she was brought and saved, frankly, by coming from pakistan to birmingham. and that is where there's a specialized hospital that treated her. a lot of war wounded from britain who had been in afghanistan, et cetera. and what happened was there was this fantastic english doctor who had gone to pakistan for another mission at the time that malala had been shot and was actually her life was being
saved by pakistani surgeons. but this after care was not good. having saved her life, the vital signs were going down. she could have died. this british surgeon looked at her and said she could either survive brain damaged or not survive. let's take her to birmingham in a split decision they decided to do it and that saved her. >> in the first clip she talks about it being a miracle. when you talk about all these little things, incidents that just happen by coincidence but contributed to her saving her life and becoming the person she is now, the worldwide activist she is now. talk to me about her faith in god. >> oh, my goodness. she's not about to pound you over the head with allah as she says. but she believes she was spared. they are very religious people. we mustn't forget that. even though they mill tate
against the militant the taliban, they are very pious, very religious. she believes that's why she was spared. she believes the attack and the fact she was spared means she has a mission to complete. we've talked about her as a candidate for the nobel prize. officially nobody knows who is actually a candidate. so it's kind of word of mouth. we don't know who the contenders really are. and she obviously would be the youngest ever. i asked her about it. let's play that. she doesn't think she's worthy. >> anyone who has got a mow bell peace prize, they deserve it. but when i think of myself, i have a lot to do. so i think that it's really an early age. and i would feel proud when i would work for education, when i would have done something, when i would be feeling confident to tell people yes, i have done that school, i have done that teachers training, sent that many children to school. and i'll be feeling proud. then if i get the nobel peace prize i'll be saying yeah, i
deserve it somehow [ laughter ] >> amazing young woman. >> makes you feel good. >> actually she wants to be prime minister. her hero is benazir bhutto, first female prime minister of pakistan assassinated by the taliban. >> sunday night at 8:00 p.m. >> you can tune in for christiane amanpour interview with malala cnn special "the bravest girl in the world it's called." are peyton manning an lebron james contributed to childhood obesity by hawking junk food on tv? we'll talk to the panel particularly robin quivers when we come back. [ male announcer ] this is brad.
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welcome back. the sports superstars a lot of kids look up to these days are not just telling them to eat their wheaties. in a new study researchers looked at endorsement contracts for 100 professional athletes and founded food and drinks they're hawking are mostly junk. like lebron james, peyton manning, serena williams are doing commercials for everything from mcdonald's to papa john's
to oreos. and those commercials are being seen more by kids than adults. back with my panel. and robin quivers "the vegucation of robin" saved my life. >> you believe it saved your life. >> i don't just believe it i know it. before i became a vegan i was having chronic health problems and looking at really bad middle and older age. i couldn't walk, couldn't exercise, couldn't lose weight, i had no vitality. ways drinking gallons of coffee to try to stay on the air in the morning. my life had been reduced to just sleeping and working. >> how hard is making that transition? i've thought about it all the time. i love my big macs like twice a month. it's true i do. i'll eat a chicken every day. >> is it a chicken mcnugget? >> no. >> it's a real chicken? >> i've started to drink
vegetables because i hate eating them. >> that's something i always wondered about. is there a nutritional difference between eating a raw vegetable or even a cooked vegetable and eating anytime a drink form? >> actually what happens when you eat anytime a drink form, you can juice a lot more vegetables than you can eat. so it's called macro nutrition. you're actually extracting the nutrients out of the juice and a lot of -- all of the vegetables that you use in that juice. so you're getting -- >> so it's actually better to drink it than to eat it? >> it's not better. but in our day and age when we've been starving ourselves by eating lots of junk that has no n nutrition, you need to give your body a big dose of nutrition and enzymes and vitamins in order to start correcting all the things we've gone the wrong. >> back to anderson's question, how hard is it? we've seen bill clinton. and he loved eating. >> absolutely. he was at mcdonald's all the
time. after he ran, which is crazy. you're trying to do something healthy. >> can you find food on the street that you can eat? >> that's why i started cooking. it's not necessarily easy in this day and age to find healthy food anywhere you go. in new york it's a different story. but sometimes out there in the hinterlands when i'm traveling it's kind of hard to find something decent to eat. >> i'm hardly a nutritional model. but i always find you can usually find a banana somewhere. it's hard to screw up a banana. >> they have a lot of cash hir hydrates. >> why are you harshing my mellow here? >> didn't this sort of armor save you when you actually got very ill with cancer? >> absolutely. if i had gotten cancer in the condition i was in before i might not be sitting here talking to you. >> let me ask you a really important question.
what alcohol falls within vegan category? >> wine comes from grapes. almost all alcohol is fermented from something that grows in the ground. >> alcohol-based diet to be vegan. >> i want to bring in hln's dr. drew on call. dr. drew, what do you think about this? you see this study? >> first of all, just the word alcohol and automatically you drag me in thanks for that. a. b, doesn't robin look fantastic? so great to see her back at work. robin, thank you so much for the lovely e-mail today. i promise i'll respond to you. i was deeply moved by that. hard to argue with what you say. there are cardiologists who will tell you heart disease is a dietary disease. it's the western diet that may cause this thing. the fact is you mentioned alcohol. the reality if you want to look at carcinogens, alcohol and tobacco are still the major contributors to really serious health problems. if your going to be vegan you might want to limit that alcohol, too. >> i don't drink that much. that was her question.
>> but also for some people, i have a positive family history for heart disease. my dad died at 50 of heart disease. i've been told by my doctor that you can change your diet, try to radically change it but at a certain point you have to take medication. you have to take statins. >> at a certain point you do. >> diet alone is not going to do it for people with a real family history. >> i would beg to differ with that. because nobody is telling you how to eat to avoid those kind of conditions. you're talking about eating the standard american diet and then yes, you will have to take statins and other drugs at a certain point. >> right. >> let's agree with this one point. you can get that ldl down. let's say robin we followed your diet exactly to the letter and your ldl was still 100 to 120. then you're somebody with a gene that just will not move with diet alone. >> absolutely. i would like to look at that. i wouldn't automatically say you're always going to have to take medication. >> but it is tough for people to
stick to -- for me i wound find it hard as somebody who doesn't like vegetables would find it hard to stick to a vegan diet. >> i never ate vegetables before i became a vegan. it was a result of the education i got. if you felt as bad as i did when i started. >> did you get a nutritionist? >> i got a nutritionist and taught myself to cook at the very beginning. >> how many diets had you done? >> every one. >> the cabbage soup one? >> oh, yes. >> did you do the pineapple one? >> i never did the pineapple one but the fruit in the morning and you eat the rest of the day. i did them all. >> she hit the nail on the head in terms of if you can and i know many families cannot afford to do so. if you can -- >> that's the point. very expensive. expensive and requires time and attention and education. >> it's true. and i was very conscious with my son. luckily we were able to have home cooked food every night and he had vegetables and all the right stuff.
do you know what? he was not ill. my boy was not ill at all. >> absolutely. >> this gets back to this study of the pro athletes. the food that they are advertising, i guess food belongs in quotation marks, is basically pretty cheap. >> it's also high energy -- energy-dense nutrient poor. 93.4% of the 46 advertised beverages had 100% of calories from added sugar. >> first of all let's get lebron james out of there because i'm from miami. no hating on lebron. while i'm on this panel. >> just single out athletes, either. we have music stars, everybody who's big in pop culture gets these endorsements. and they sell this stuff to kids. >> on my way over here, knowing we were going to talk about this i called isiah thomas the basketball star a very good friend of mine. he talked about the kind of discipline he had to have during the 13 years that he was
playing. he said look for 13 years i ate chicken and fish. thank god my wife figured out how to make it 300 different ways but i would splurge. and his emphasis was everything in moderation. and you know what -- >> if you're exercising around the clock like these athletes are you can burn it off. >> they have a different capacity than we do. >> they need a different level. can an athlete be a vegan and still play? >> john sally is a vegan. >> there's a little bit of a political question here too also. my physician self i'm completely upset by the way the stuff is marketed to young people. but on the other hand, how much of a nanny -- how much nannying do we need to do here? should we hold the businesses accountable? do we have to legislate these things? i applaud robin to write about this. anderson to talk about it. to say they have no right to do this i have a problem. >> we should be dealing with not letting our nutrition education come from advertisers and marketers. that's what's happening now.
>> back to the home again. back to our home. >> yeah, michelle obama i think has done an enormous service. because her let's move, the whole idea of healthy eating no matter what they say politically it actually has had a major impact. and i think the figures show dr. drew correct me if i'm wrong, i think the figures show that obesity is going down in this country. >> robin, i think you're letting the athletes off the hook a little bit too much here. eli manning makes plenty of money for the new york giants even though they stink this year. and including tonight. he does ads for dunkin donuts. >> sure. >> he doesn't have to do ads for dunkin donuts. >> nobody who grows apples is going to payee lie manning $10 million to sell apples. the people who need those athletes to sell their junk are the people who are selling something you don't need. that's how it works. >> it doesn't have to work that way. >> you've just gotten way too used to this. >> anything about doughnuts.
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welcome back. time for what's your story where i ask the panelists for a story that caught their eye today. robin what's your story? >> miley cyrus said the other day she didn't think that people over 40 had sex. and the other day on "the talk" susanne somers who is what, 66? said that she and her husband are having sex twice a day. >> and he's like 77. >> right. they've been married something like 32 years. >> do you believe it? >> i didn't believe it. but then i read further. >> that depends on your definition of sex. >> but she said they're both on hormones. >> not only a little bit on hormones. do you remember when she was on oprah? she takes like 80 pills a day.
the amount of supplements. >> you have to take a lot of pills. >> christiane, what's your story? >> i know that was probably your story. she probably took it. >> she did. then i have to go to libya on my story. it's kind of sad, actually. the prime minister of libya was kidnaped, dragged from his place of residence undercover of darkness by a militia who apparently was associated with some element of the government, the interior minister. then he was let go. and the point of this, of course, is that 2 1/2 years later they're still immense anarchy really and no central control and central security. and it's very difficult in libya. >> if a prime minister can be pulled out of his home or wherever by a militia is insane. >> it's insane. >> jeff? >> i have a happy story. alice munro who won the nobel prize for literature, canadian short story writer frequent contributor of "the new yorker" and such a wonderful person and a wonderful writer. that's often a controversial prize.
not this year. i think everyone's happy about it. >> fantastic. wonderful. >> anna, what's your story? >> this has been a good week for women. i think we've gotten some pioneering actions happened this week that we haven't paid attention to because we've been so into the shutdown. but the first woman got nominated for the fed. i think that's absolutely -- 100-year history. i may disagree with her politically but she's callified and she's a woman. >> can you say her name? >> janet yellin. and colonel dawn dunlap who i saw an article about today, she was the first female air force fighter pilot in europe, first f-22 pilot. and god willing she will -- these are her words -- i will be the first female fighter pilot general in the air force. so chuck hagel if you're watching? >> women in all these areas make a fairer, better, more
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