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ted turner, the maverick man, premieres this sunday night, 7:00 eastern, right here on cn nrk. that's it for me. thank you so much for watching. "newsroom" continues right now with john berman and rosa flores. >> we're going to start this afternoon with some good news. great news, actually, for a change. i want you to take a look at live pictures out of san francisco where any moment, a news conference will begin there on the city which is transforming itself into gotham city for a day. >> why, you might ask? it's a 5-year-old boy's wish. he's in remission from a long battle with leukemia, and today, the city is honoring his dream of becoming a superhero. you see the bat mobile there on your screen. we'll keep an eye out on this and take you live from the ground and talk about superheroes, what's your favorite superhero? >> i'm a batman guy. i love aquaman, but i love more than anything that we're taking
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live pictures of the bat mobile which we're calling gotham city. that's my favorite car chase. >> i'm looking forward to talking to this little fellow. >> first, big news out of washington, d.c. the health care faces another test in an hour. >> as he labors to save his top first-term achievement, he is lost, quite frankly. he's about to meet at the white house with top insurance executives. >> some of the executiveerize insen insensed, furious, really angry that now president obama's back is to the wall, he wants them to reestablish health insurance plans he has slammed as practically junk. stand by. we're going to have that in just a moment. >> now, a short time ago, a firely debate in the house on the republican plan of revival plan to the president's fix. >> we're doing it for my constituents like carolyn and lucy and cindy and wilma.
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all small business owners. all female heads of households who have written us and have said, we are being forced out. forced out. of the plan that we like. >> the fact of the matter is, it will not fix that problem. but what it will do is undermine the ability of millions and millions and millions of people to have health security. i would urge my colleagues to defeat this trojan horse. >> you heard that right. trojan horse, he said, because democrats contend the republican plan would wreck obama care. in the name of saving it. about 20 minutes ago, that measure did pass, but it won't become law. we'll have more on that in just a moment. first, this meeting about to happen at the white house between the president and insurance executives. to help us figure all this out,
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elizabeth cohen, our senior medical correspondent. i'm guessing there's going to be a lot of tension in the room given the fact that the president quite frankly has not been very nice to these insurance executives. i imagine that there's going to be lots of tension because of the severe criticism. >> oh, rosa, i would love to be a fly in the wall at that meeting because i think it is going to be quite heated. i was actually speaking with an insurance executive who said they're infuriated because three years ago, the president said we want you to get rid of your policies and create new policies, and then in the ninth inning, as he put it, the president then said, oh, you can go back to the old policies, and the executive i was talking to said we have whiplash. administratively, this is a mess. financially, this is mess because we made all our forecasts based on doing what the president told us. and he said it's now we're going to look like the bad guys if we don't uncancel the policies that the president told us to put in there in the first place, we look like the bad guys.
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>> lots of pr -- bad pr all around. in the middle, of course, are these folks with these now-canceled policies. how difficult is it going to be for these people? >> you know, i think it's going to be tough for them. they're going to have to call their insurance companies and say you canceled by policy, but i liked it so can i have it back again? from what i'm hearing, a lot of kaerchls are going to say, no, we're not going to give it back. several reasons. one, again, an administrative mess to undo what they just did, and the newer policies are more expennive, many of them, so the insurance companies want to do this. i want to explain the 5% number on the screen. i want to be very clear this decision yesterday affects directly only 5% of americans. only 5% of americans buy insurance on their own without their employer. that's called the individual market. so this doesn't affect a ton of us. it's 5% of us. still, 11 million people, for those 11 million people, this is extremely important. >> yeah, but it's very, very important for all those people.
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elizabeth cohen, thank you. we're going to talk now about the politics of this and really the big political damage this has been doing to the president. joining us now from washington is candy crowley, chief political correspondent and anchor of "state of the union." the vote in the house, 39 democrats essentially voted against the republicanreds. they voted against the president. it's not this big, epic number that would have been a huge embarrassment. >> well, yes, the number is clearly smaller than it might have been had not the president yesterday gone out and said i have an administrative fix. they knew this vote was coming on a republican measure. they don't like it because the measure would allow folks to keep that insurance forever, not just for the year the president has in mind. and it would allow other people into the market if they wanted to purchase insurance on an individual basis. so the urgency behind what the
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president was doing was to avoid a big embarrassing vote. still, 39 democrats voting with the republicans tells you how deep the worry is among democrats that it is not just the rollout, not just that people were losing their health insurance after being told they wouldn't lose it. it is everything. and the democrats, and one of them i talked to this morning said, you know, the problem is they send the president out, and he is surrounded by people who love him and cheer for obama care. and then i go home to my district and i walk across the street and people are screaming at me because i voted for obama care. while they agree with the principle that everyone ought to beovered, they know this rollout and these mistakes and these fixes are needed. so a lot of them just thought they needed to vote with this republican bill, which will never see the light of day because the president already said he'll veto it. i doubt it would --
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>> harry reid will never let it get to a vote, anyway. >> exactly. >> these members of congress are facing their constituents and they're also reading all of the polls which are pretty bleak for president obama. his lowest approval ratings of his administration, and we've seen low approval ratings for presidents before in their second term. and they never really bounce back to the high numbers they enjoyed before. it's very, very hard for a president to recover in his second term. >> it is. however, if obama care, the affordable care act, begins to take hold in a way that there are more positive stories than there are negative stories next year, that will do something certainly for the president's number. it's not impossible to bounce back. but it's clear that they're very worried about next year's midterms. the president, if you listened to him yesterday, there were so many times he said we made a mistake, i made a mistake. this is on me. all those people on capitol hill
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who told voters that they could keep their health care, they did that because we assured them that was the truth. so that's on me, it's not on them. he said that a couple times. so they're very worried because nothing would put a halt to an administration seeing the end of its days anyway in thirty-two years as a republican senate and a still republican house, so they're worried. >> all right, candy crowley, thank you so much. candy will have so much more on this on "state of the union" on sunday morning at 9:00 a.m. >> if you have checked your retirement account lately, you know stock markets have been on fire, folks. they have been en fuego. today, they're climbing towards milestones. less than two hours from the closing bell on wall street. take a look at the dow. up again. approaching 16,000. and check this out. so far this year, the dow has gained 21%. and other -- the other two indexes are up even more. the s&p 500 is within striking distance of 1800, and the nasdaq
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is closing in at 4,000. that's a level it hasn't seen since the dot.com boom and bust more than 13 years ago. >> so, is the united states on the verge of a deal with iran? cnn's jim sciutto reporting that both sides are, quote, getting close to an agreement to stop iran's nuclear program from advancing. the deal would delay iran's ability to build a nuclear weapon and give the west better notice if tehran tried. this of course comes after the obama administration asked congress to avoid passing a new round of sanctions against iran. we'll give you updates as we get them on this story. and coming up, to our favorite story of the day. we're following batman in gotham city, and then of course, san francisco, just don't tell anyone. to fulfill the wish of a young boy. we're going to take you there live. >> love that kid, love that
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city. >> plus, as toronto's crack smoking mayor gets some of his power taken away today, he's ready for his big debut in a new television show. we're going to speak to the executive putting rob ford and his brother on tv on their own show. i'm not lying to you, folks. you don't want to miss this. >> i do not use crack cocaine. >> yes, i have smoked crack cocaine. i sincerely, sincerely, sinceresincere lypologize. life with crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis is a daily game of "what if's". what if my abdominal pain and cramps end our night before it even starts? what if i eat the wrong thing? what if? what if i suddenly have to go? what if? but what if the most important question
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council debate today, the motion to improve the decision-making environment at city hall. that, folks, is polite canadian speak for trying to get rid of their crack-smoking mayor. they did what they can by law since they can't actually recall the mayor. they passed a motion that stripped forward all of the powers the position has delegated in the past. it's the city's latest move to convince the mayor of north america's fourth largest city to take a leave of absence. he has admitted smoking crack and buying illegal drugs, and his latest gaffe, using an out of nowhere vulgarity that went live nationwide. >> olivia says i wanted to [ bleep ]. i have never said that ipmy life to her. i would never do that. i'm happily married. >> now we're going to live to toronto to cnn's nic robertson. and nic, what specific powers did this council strip from
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mayor ford? >> two specific powers, if you will, today. one which gives him authority to hire and fire senior staff members. that's been taken away from him. also, the right to sort of overrule the council if there's a state of emergency. that power appears now to be passing to the deputy mayor. there will be other powers thal wiseek to strip from him next week. it's the beginning of a process. he's indicated he will fight back. he'll take it to the courts. he said it will cost the taxpayers money. but in a strangely bizarre way, seems to sympathize today with the other counselors. >> if i would have had a mayor acting the way i have conducted myself, i would have done the exact same thing. i am not mad at anybody. i take full responsibility. >> but what he's also saying, he may be taking full responsibility, but he's not backing down. it was just he and his brother who were the only hold-outs on
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the vote. it went 41-2 against him and his brother, who is also a council member. back to you. >> thank you so much. in one word, drama. for that story. after the toronto city council stripped some of the mayor's powers, the mayor' young brother, promised a legal fight ahead. doug ford is also on the council, and he asked the city solicitor if lawmakers could take away resources from other council members. >> can they reduce their budgets? >> that's not before us. >> so it's all right to do it to one but not the other? that's what i'm hearing. >> i can't comment on that. >> okay. look forward to challenging you. >> a source tells cnn doug ford has asked his older brother to take a leave of absence. so whatever the brother says in private, one thing is for certainly, they are now going to be talking a lot more in public. why? because canada's sun news network has just announced the
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ford brothers will have their own tv show. it's called "ford nation." it starts monday. this is actually happening, folks. joining us now is the vice president of the sun news network, corey. i don't know where to begin here, but let's start here. the mayor says that he's getting some kind of professional help. we don't know exactly what it is. are you concerned that he's not in the right condition to be hosting a television show? >> well, i think that's one of the most interesting stories in the world right now. you're talking about it. it's all over late-night television, and in your country as well. i would even go so far as to say it's a little payback from canada for making us suffer through the wiener and blagojevich scandals up here. it's hard to explain why people are so interested in the story. all around the world, but they certainly are. it's been captivating canadians for some time up here. >> we're talking about it
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because you have a chief executive of a city who is doing thicks in public that are shocking to a lot of people. we're covering it, but we're not giving him a show every week. you're giving him a show every week. is that the right message to be sending to your viewers? >> i'll step in there. we're doing a first show, and we'll sort of see where things go from there. but i probably would better describe this as a news special. we're giving the ford brother, who used to have a weekly show, an opportunity to come on our airwaves and give in their own words their own explanation of some of the things that are going on. i think it's fair to say that canadians and americans and people around the world are interested in hearing what they have to say. and we're going to give them an opportunity to do that. it's a business decision. it's not a political decision or any other kind of decision. and our hope, and the ratings game, as you are, is that it will attract viewers. >> i know one of the things that i'm wondering is how did this
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deal come about? i know you mentioned this is a business deal. how big of a business deal is this? how much money is at stake for the fords? >> well, this is canada. the numbers are shockingly small. we're not paying the mayor or his brother anything for their time. as was the case with their radio program. we're simply making some air time available for them to bring their story forward, to say what it is they have to say to toron torontonians and canadians and people around the world following this story. >> let's leave the crack smoking admission. when you heard the mayor, i don't know how to describe what he said. he was talking about the allegations about him, you know, sexual allegations. he talked about what he does in the office and at home. when you heard that, what did you think, sir? >> well, i thought it's a good
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thing the show won't be live. so we'll have an opportunity to insure that nothing happens on our airwaves that is contravention of any of the broadcasting rules north of the border. >> i guess i respect the broadcasting sensibility there. >> in our case, the bleep button. all right, well, thank you so much for joining us. coming up for us next, china makes a big change to the rule that most families can only have one child. we'll tell you why. and coming up next, you dont want to miss this. san francisco becomes gotham city to make a 5-year-old boy's wish come true. you see him right there. all sorts of excitement. that city is his for the day. we're going to show you, live. welcome back. how is everything? there's nothing like being your own boss! and my customers are really liking your flat rate shipping. fedex one rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a promotion is in order.
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a 5-year-old boy who loves batman is having the superhero adventure of a lifetime today. riding around in the batmobile in the city by the bay. transformed into gotham city. he also defeated the penguin, of course, and did a flip to celebrate. miles scott has been fighting luchel leukemia since he was 18 months old. now he's in remission, so that's a great deal to celebrate there, to celebrate the entire city of san francisco was transformed into gotham city. the mayor and police chief pitched in to help fulfill the little guy's superhero dreams. now let's take you to gotham city. you're looking at the batmobile there. lots of people. it looks like a parade out
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there. it's actually a lamborghini on loan from a wealthy san francisco resident. again, everybody in the city pitched in to make this little boy's dream come true. now, i want to bring in dan simon, tracking the story live in gotham city. i'm surprised he doesn't have a batman suit on, first of all. so how did this adventure come about? >> reporter: well, hi, rosa. first of all, you can see the batmobile behind me. you can see the thousands of people who have converged on gotham city here in downtown san francisco. we've all covered lots of stories, but i have to tell you, and i promise you this, i have never seen anything quite like this. the amount of logistics and coordination to make this little boy's dreams come true is unbelievably staggering. so here's how this came about. he's 5 years old, little miles. he had leukemia. fortunately, it's now in remission. he was asked if he could have
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one wish, what would it be? he said he wanted to be batman. the make a wish foundation put all this together. you can see the bat mobile taking off. to his next adventure. the make-a-wish foundation put all this together. this is the culmination of it all. miles and his dad talked a little bit about his special day. take a look at that. >> he's my favorite superhero. >> it's really neat to see how many people got together for a stranger they don't know. and show support for. it's heart warming. it's a big party at the end of a long road. >> so once word got out this was happening, social media really pushed this thing forward. you had thousands of volunteers and so this is really what this is all about. people coming out and trying to support this very brave little boy. rosa and john.
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>> oh, this is fantastic. did you see the joker? >> it's amazing. a riddler, the penguin. this kid, the parents have said it. he actually is a superhero, the way he's been battling leukemia since 18 months old. the thing that gets me in the story, i get choked up thinking about it. this city was all in. look at it. thousands of people in on this for one kid. to respect this kid's bravery. kudos to them. a lamborghini souped up at the bat mobile. >> it reminds me of the movie, the scenes of the movie and that sort of thing. to think for him, that's reality for today. >> i can't wait to hear what he has to say about all this. all right, on the other side of the world, we have a much more bleak picture happening right now. one week after super typhoon haiyan hit the philippines, survivors still have nowhere to go. up next, cnn's anderson cooper caught up with a father. i have to tell you, his story you will never forget.
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three of her children are dead. she's keeping their bodies in luggage on the street. anderson cooper talked to families keeping watch over bodies. >> a body covered in a sheet, another in a makeshift coffin. there are flowers but no names. no one seems to notice anymore. to survive, the living are told to forget the past, forget the dead, but that of course is impossible. juan tries to stay busy. his child is missing. he still doesn't use the word dead. juan's father lays in their shack. his back injured in the storm. his family has suffered more than anyone ever should. how high was the water? the water was as tall as that tree? janet's two children slipped from her grasp and drowned. i did all that i could, she says. but i let them go. what can you say in the face of such sadness?
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this woman is trying to keep busy. she's collected old dishes and is cleaning up thup. we first met her on tuesday. she showed us the bodies of three of her children. she placed them in a piece of luggage under a sheet. she was searching for her three other children. has anyone come to help you? i really want to see them, she says. even if it's just their bodies. two days later, and she still hasn't found her three other children. has there been any help since we saw you? none, she says. my children are decomposing. they're still there? no help, no local government officials, no city officials, says her father. nobody is showing themselves. his injured son jericho sits
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quietly listening. his mother is dead. so is his aunt and nine of his cousins. in a daze, he asked me, when is my mother coming back? he never ever says she's missing. he still thinks she will come back. we didn't know there was a tsunami, he says. we thought it was just a storm. you didn't know there would be this storm surge of water? we have been throw sow many storms, he said, there were many times before our house gets destroyed and we hide behind a tree, but there's no water. it's just wind. it's the water that killed us. >> if somebody told you it would be like a tsunami, you would have left? oh, yes. he says. we would have left right away. jericho wants to leave now on a c-130, the kind of plane he sees every day overhead, flying evacuees to manila. his father tells him they have to stay. they have no money, just each other. that's all that's left. it's been almost a week since
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the typhoon hit. and the initial adrenaline of the storm and its aftermath has faded and the grim reality of what life is now has taken its place. people are trying to kind of rebuild is too strong a word, just trying to survive as best they can. people have hung up some washing on a shack that they put together out of scraps of corrugating tin they have been able to salvage. you see women doing washing of plates and clothing, whatever they can find. whatever they can find that they used to own that's been spread out throughout all this area. you see people walking around, trying to find their possessions. trying to find family photographs and plates and all the little things that make up a person's life. survival is still a struggle, for some more than most. two days ago, we met this man sharing rice with his neighbors. he desperately wanted to call
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his mother in manila to let him know he was alive but his wife and two of his three children were not. we dialed her number for him on the sat lyle phone. they're all gone. they're gone, he says. they're all gone. we're the only ones who survived. just the two of us survived, he says. i don't know why this happened to me. we found him again today. how are you? his grief is still overwhelming. he can't stop thinking about seeing his family drown in the storm. the first one that i saw was my youngest, he says. she fainted and then she drowned. the water was so fast. and then my wife, when i tried to grab her, i missed her. and then she drowned. and then i never saw her again. he admits he often thinks of killing himself but hasn't
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because he still has one child who needs him. it's like i don't want to live anymore because of what happened to my family, he tells me. all of us here lost our loved ones, but all i'm saying is people have different ways of dealing with how we feel, and in my case, i can't handle it. in tacloban, there is no time for grief, little chance for comfort. between death and life, the line is thin. sometimes there's no line at all. anderson cooper, cnn, tacloban. >> tough pictures and tough stories. tonigh tonight, anderson shows you an emotional reunion in the philippines. a family separated by the typhoon comes together again. as you know, ac 360 airs tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. tens of thousands of people are homeless. some hungry people surviving on coconut juice, and we know there's a lot of very generous people out there. if you want to help typhoon
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survivors, go to cnn.com/specials/impa cnn.com/specials/impactyourworld for more information. >> a terrific resource. >> coming up for us next, it's the middle of the night. a woman knocks on the door of a homeowner. moment later, he shoots and kills her. as protesters get impatient, prosecutors are revealing whether the homeowner will be charged. also, will the woman's toxicology results play a role in the case. >> plus, for the first time, we're seeing video from inside the mall where a man terrorized shoppers and fired shots before killing himself. we'll show you more of these pictures up next. [ male announcer ] this is jim,
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a firearm. he had claimed he accidentally shot and killed 19-year-old mcbride in the early morning hours, thinking she was trying to break into his home. lawyers for mcbride's family claimed she knocked on his door simply looking for help after getting in a car accident. police say she was unarmed. mcbride's toxicology reports says she has marijuana in her system with a blood alcohol level nearly three times the legal limit. does that matter? sunny, i want to start with you. the charges apparently mean police didn't buy the notion there was a self-defense reason behind this. how do you think they came to this conclusion? >> we know this was a very thorough investigation. 13-day investigation. and the police wanted to bring these charges, at least brought them to the prosecutor's office before today. and the prosecutor's office said, you know what, wait a minute. let's get more evidence. they waited until the toxicology
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reports came back and then made the decision. i know kim worthy, the prosecutor in michigan. we went to the same law school. i met her several times. she's extremely thorough. based on the totality of the investigation, the prosecution, the prosecutor's office felt that he does not -- this defendant did not act lawfully in self-defense. i think it's a result and a credit to the type of investigation that's obviously taken place here. >> now, we have to talk about the toxicology report because when you talk about blood alcohol level nearly three times the legal limit and marijuana, the question is obvious. does that really matter? is it relevant in this case? >> vinnie? >> yeah, that will be relevant. relevant to the defense. you bet you can believe it. they're going to make a big case of their case based on her actions, what she did. how she left the scene of an accident, she was driving under the influence, and what was happening on the front porch? if they're going to allege
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self's defense, which means i have a reasonable belief my safety is at risk here, they're going to try to paint the actions of her as being aggressive, unreasonable. how was she acting when she was under the influence? from the defense perspective, they want to make it a huge part of the case in trying to paint the picture of what was happening on the porch that night. >> now, one of the reasons i think this case has received so much national attention is because the victim here was black and the shooter was white. yet the police when they issued these charges today, they say race does not factor into their charges. they don't see it as a role, sunny. >> you know, they certainly did say that. but i think this harkins back to the trayvon martin case, this harkins back to the jonathan davis case. people don't want to talk about it, but this homeowner has to show he was an honest and reasonable fear of great bodily injury and imminent death. i've got to tell you, the fact that this victim, an african-american woman, was at
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his door, may have somehow led to his belief that he was being threatened. it's that insidious racism, that sort of racial profiling that may be a part of the case, that was a part of a lot of the other cases like trayvon martin. i think, of course, the police are saying, you know, race wasn't a part of our decision making, but perhaps it was a part of this defendant's decision making. it's something that people don't want to talk about but that we have to talk about. you look at the facts of the case and you have someone who was secure in his home. why not call 911 and instead go to your front door armed with a deadly weapon and shoot someone in the face? what made this woman apire to be such a threat to him? and perhaps race was one of those factors. unfortunately. >> vinnie, you want to get the last word? >> yeah, i think the real factor here is going to be from the defense perspective is going to be how she was acting, what she was doing. i don't know it has to do with
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race. it may have to do with the time of day, maybe he can lawfully have his gun, but problem is, was it reasonable what he did? was she trying to break into the house? was there a threat or just someone knocking on the door in the middle of the night, and ultimately, that's a fact question for the jury to figure out. this is not going to be an easy one for either side. >> and it's definitely going to create a lot more conversation. that's for sure. vinnie politan and sunny hostin, thank you so much. >> thanks, guys. so for more than 30 years, many families in china have been told they could only have one child. today, that very well-known policy, china has announced it's going to change it. we'll have details on that straight ahead. [ imitating engine revving ] that's mine. ♪ that's mine. ♪ that's mine. ♪ come on, kyle. ♪ [ horn honks ] that's mine...kyle. [ male announcer ] revenge is best served with 272 horses.
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welcome back. thanks for sharing your afternoon with us. historic changes announced today in china. the government there is relaxing its decade-old one-child policy according to the state media there. now, china also is abolishing labor camps in an effort to improve human rights. cnn's david mckinsey has more. >> authorities released the news late on a friday evening with simple statements, but they are about laws that have been around for decades. and some of the most hated policies in china. the one-child policy is
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extremely controversial, and the reaction on the streets was almost immediate. >> since the policy now allows it, i will definitely have another child. it's too lonely for a single child. >> when i get married, i would prefer having two children because i'm the only child in my family. my childhood was a bit boring. >> they introduced the policy in the late '70s to curb the population overgrowth. applauded by some, but criticized by many. forced aborstions, involuntary sterilizations, and a huge gender imbalance. faced with a clinkisclipging la pool, their hand was forced. couples now can have a second child if at least one of the parents is an only child. some human rights groups say
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it's not enough and want it abolished all together. the government has abolished another policy, education through labor camps. they were used for decades to detain petty criminals, activists, and agitators for up to four years without trial. a recent cnn investigation exposed widespread abused at one infamous camp. many felt the brutal system was out of place in modern-day china. the new leadership appears willing to shell all laws in a bid to protect its future. >> big changes there. coming up for us here, if things are what they seem at the white house, why would anyone stand up and tell the president about bad news? that the websites weren't working? we'll discuss. plus, anderson cooper defends cnn's coverage out of the disaster zone in the philippines. you'll hear the criticism and anderson's blunt response.
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welcome back, everyone. miami dolphins lineman jonathan martin is in new york city today meeting with an lawyer investigating the team's bullying scandal. what should we expect next in this ongoing story? joe carter here with a bleacher report update. >> martin actually is meeting with ted wells today, the
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prominent attorney appointed by the nfl to get do the bottom of what led jonathan martin to leave the dolphins on october 28th. our cnn cameras got martin arriving at the office today. you see there, he's sort of smiling buzz he did not respont to questions from the numerous reporters there. martin is expected to hand over pages and pages of notes today detailing his side of the story. and ted wells is expected to take those notes and head to miami next for a meeting with dolphin officials. meanwhile, richie incognito who has been suspended for his part in the scandal has filed a grievance for his salary. he believes he's due the $1.2 million the team could deny him if the conduct suspension lasts the maximum four games. >> when jose verfernandez was doing an interview about being named national league rookie of the year, an incredible emotional moment was caught on camera when the marlins surprised him and reunited him
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with his 68-year-old grandmother he hasn't seen since he defected from cuba five years ago. he credits all his baseball success to her. >> oh, boy. oh, my god. >> very nice moment. his 68-year-old grandmother, of course, is his biggest fan. at her home in cuba, she climbed to the top of the roof with a radio so she can listen to her grandson pitch. >> after suffering a gruesome injury on television, kevin ware is back in the court, which is where rachel nichols caught up with him. that means kobe bryant is going to have to make his way to louisville after losing a bet between the two. >> kobe is a competitive guy. the bet was whoever came back first, the other person had to come to their game. so i got a game because kobe
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hasn't got into a game. >> catch the full interview on unguarded with rachel nichols. that's tonight, 10:30 eastern time on cnn. that's your bleacher report update. back to you. >> joe carter, thank you so much. >> all right, it's the top of the hour. i'm john berman alongside rosa flor flores. we're live in new york. right now, president obama is meeting with the heads of insurance companies. this confab follows the president's mea culpa over his botched promise that if you like your insurance, you koo keep it, during which he proposed insurance companies reup policies set to be canceled at the end of the year. and there's also a republican vote allowing people to keep their existing coverage. dana bash is on capitol hill. dana, the president is facing a pretty big sales job with these health insurance big-wigs this afternoon. >> that is an understatement. i cannot even imagine how angry they are. i mean, we have heard what they have said in public to the media. i can imagine what they're going to say in private to the president.
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and that is because they feel undermined. they feel that they did everything they were supposed to do to comply with the obama health care law, and now they're told with 30 days they have to call everybody they gave kabsilation notices to saying never mind. it will be interesting to see if the president is successful. what he announced is not a requirement, not mandatory. it's a request. he's going to have to do a lot of persuading among a lot of not very happy insurance executives. >> there was a vote on the house floor on the republican bill to give people access to insurance. the president lost 39 democrats here. 39 democrats voted for the republican plan here. what kind of a hit is that? >> it's not good. but it is better than it would have been had the president not come out and made his announcement yesterday, not come out and tried to sort of mitigate this. but still, 39 democrats is about a fifth of the house democratic caucus. that is not an insignificant
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number. i spoke to one of the democrats who defied his leadership and voted for the republican bill, ron barber of arizona. listen to the reason he gave for voting yes. >> as you know, your leadership says that your vote would undercut the entire obama care law. >> well, i don't see it that way. i think any fix we can make, particularly when a problem arises, is good for the people. back home, and truth of the matter is, look, i'm accountable to the people who sent me here. i respect our leadership on both sides of the aisle, but leadership didn't elect me. my constituents did, and i'm going to do what i can to support them when they have problems and concerns. that's what i'm doing in this case. >> that is really illustrative of why you saw so many democratic defections. they were getting panicked calls from their constituents. everyone who has a canceled policy says help me do
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something. people like him, in a competitive race next year, said, look, i voted to help you despite democratic leaders were saying on the house floor in private to the rank and file members, don't vote for this because it doesn't just reinstate canceled plans. it allows people to get the plans that don't have the benefits obama care requires. >> they're listening to their voters and looking at the polls, no doubt. dana bash for us, thank you so much. >> thank you. now to more drama, but this time, north of the border. and an item the toronto city council debated today. motion to improve the decision making environment at city hall. folks, that's polite canadian speak for trying to get rid of the crack-smoking mayor. let's be honest here. the 44-member council did what they could by law, since it cannot recall him all together. it passed a motion that strips
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rob ford of all of his powers. the council has delegated the position in the past. and ford understood where the council was coming from. >> if i would have had a mayor acting the way i have conducted myself, i would have done the exact same thing. i'm not mad at anybody. i take full responsibility. >> now, it's the latest move to convince the mayor of north america's fourth largest city to take a leave of absence. ford has admitted to smoking crack, buying illegal drugs, and his latest gaffe, folks, using an out of nowhere vulgarity that went live nationwide. >> olivia says that i wanted to [ bleep ]. i have never said that in my life to her. i would never do that. i'm happily married. >> and joining us now is ashleigh banfield. how do we even follow that?
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>> how do you even report it. we can usually get around any profanity by describing it. i can't. all i can say is go to google. i feel like as one oz your resident canadians, i should start the segment off by saying i'm sorry. i'm sorry for all of this. >> is there a sense of shame? >> yes, there is. it's mortifying. >> now on top of everything else, rob ford and his brother doug are getting a stock show. we actually spoke to the news executive who's running the show. it's kind of crazy. >> oh, it's our proud estmoment, though, isn't it inwe used to have bob and doug m kensy. it was billed as a reality show, but he's saying it's tempering that, it's not a reality show at all, they used to do this radio program and this is a reincarnation of the radio program. a ratings giant. i asked, i have spoken to him. i said, is this the right thing to do? >> given his misfortune and his
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health. >> exactly. thank you for saying that, rosa. given the circumstances, is this the right in the to do? does this man need more attention? i don't think we gault the answer to that. >> is it ethical. >> what about legal advice? >> good one. is the mayor in legal jeopardy here? >> from what i gather, there has been plenty of legal advice this mayor has been given. is he following it? i have two answers, either it's the worst lawyer in the world or the best lawyer ing the world he's ignoring because he's threatbing to sue all those people, former staffers who interviewed with the police and made complaints to the police. there's nothing illegal about that, but he's threatening to sue them. he's threatening to take them to court. you can't do that. in both country said, you can't do that. he's also threatening to take counsel to court for doing their job, voting to strip the powers. these are the least things they can do. these are things they can do, so no, he's not a lawyer in my books and he's not following a good lawyer's advice. >> really quickly about the
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powers. is this their way to piece meal all of his duties so he's kind of like a shell mayor? >> i call this death by a thousand paper cuts. i don't know how many paper cuts they have in their kitty, but yeah. you can't appoint this guy. you can't call an emergency. there's something they can do. it's whether they will do it. they don't want to set precedent by going to the providence and saying help us, help us, because now they have something to go on for the feature. can i tell you something? inguy behind the tv show used to work for the canadian prime minister in communications. >> he knows what he's doing. he knows how to get people to listen. >> does he ever. have a good weekend, and we'll be back on monday, trust me, with more. >> absolutely, and there is more. catch ashleigh banfield's special on the mayor tonight at 1:00 a.m. right here on cnn. all right, this just in. nearly four-year mystery ends with a gruszm discovery. four bodies found in the california desert are believed
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to be those of a family that dispeered in february 2010. the remains of joseph and summer mcstay have been identified, according to the san bernardo county sheriff. two other bodies are believed to be those of the couple's 3 and 4-year-old sons. relatives reported the family missing after failing to hear from them for several days. there was no sign of trouble at their home in fall brook, california. their suv was found an hour away in san ysidro. skeletal remains were found made monday. some 150 miles to the north. investigators found two shallow graves that contained other remains. and also coming up here on cnn, san francisco is no longer the city of the bay. take a look at these pictures. today, it's gotham city. a 5-year-old boy is getting his wish after a long battle with leukemia. we'll take you there live. plus, a police officer finds out whether his job is safe after racing a civilian on the
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luchemoyeah since he was 18 months old. now he's in remission. to celebrate, the entire city of san francisco was transformed into gotham city. the mayor, the police chief pitched in. you have seen all those people there. lots of people in the crowd, all the city came together. let's take you there now. to gotham city. you'll see -- there. you're seeing batman. >> here it is. he does it too. the roll, the batman roll. >> that bat mobile was a lamborghini, some resident that decided to let them borrow the lamborghini for a day. why not, right? when they're trying to make this little boy's dream come true. there you have it, there you see it. i want to bring in dan simon, tracking this city live in gotham city. dan, how did this caped crusader adadventurer come together? there's lots of people involved, the mayor and police chief and all the people just on the streets. >> reporter: well, you know, the coordination and logistics to pull this off is really
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unbelievable. let me explain where we are. we are at city hall. this is where all this is going to come to an end. this is where bat kid is going to get a key to the city. and let me sort of explain to you everything that's happened today. let me read this to you because the itinerary they put together is truly amazing. so it began with a call from the police chief issuing the call that batkid is needed. he's traveling by batmobile and accompanied by batman. the boy receives a distress call saying there's a damsel in distress, he takes care of business. then he cakes care of the ridler, in the act of robbing a bank. he's at union square in gotham city, and basically, the penguin has taken the san francisco mascot hostage, lou the seal, and they're now headed to at&t ballpark, where things are going to unfold there. finally, they're going to come back here to city hall, as i
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said, the coordination to pull this off is truly impressive. and this is what batkid and his father had to say about all this. >> why batman? >> because he's my favorite super hero. >> really neat to see how many people have gotten together for a stranger they don't know and show support for. it's heart warming. it's a big party at the end of a long road. >> reporter: and it's really been so emotional for so many people out here. i have seen people with tears in their eyes. as we said, we're talking about a 5-year-old boy who had leukemia. fortunately, it's in remission. just last month, he had a tube taken out of his chest that was used to dispense medication. but really, what a wonderful thing that the make-a-wish foundation has done to make this little boy's wish come true. >> such great news that it is in remission. such a great showing by the city of san francisco. i cannot believe the turnout on the streets there. it's got to be such a wonderful
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feeling to be a part of it. >> just to be a part of it. i tell you what, the white house probably needs a bat call on this one. we're talking obama care, of course. coming up right here on cnn, president obama is meeting with insurance executives, and they're not happy. we could be hearing details from that meeting very soon. but next, the casualties from super typhoon haiyan are growing. cnn's anderson cooper is on the scene. >> the water was just oztall as that tree? janet's two children slipped from her grasp and drowned. i did all that i could, she says. but i let them go. >> truly heartbreaking stories, and anderson is also defending cnn's coverage of the tragedy. we'll tell you why. we'll have that for you after the break. mine was earned orbiting the moon in 1971.
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in the philippines, survival is a battle waged every single second. a wife keeps her husband alive by manually pumping air into his lungs at a hospital. his leg was amputated just days ago. these pictures are just g gut-wrenching. they really pull at your heart strings. the hospital does not have electricity a week after the typhoon slammed ashore. the husband is one of 12,000 people injured. in tacloban, crews are still collecting bodies from the streets and rubble and putting them into trucks. cnn senior international correspondent ivan watson has the latest from the ravaged city. >> the grim number of casualties is a result of the philippines
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killer typhoon grew. the official statistics now, more than 3,600 people dead and it's likely that number will continue to grow. there was some sign that the national effort to start to clear away the debris has improved significantly here in tacloban, the shattered city of more than 200,000 people. we saw road crews from the metro manila development agency. n they had brought in heavy equipment by ferry boats and were starting to clear away some of the rubble, open the roads mo more. we saw crews working on telephone lines and we saw that the cell phone networks have started to improve somewhat. still, this is a city largely without any power whatsoever. there's been intermittent rain throughout the night, which you can imagine how terrible that is for the hundreds of thousands of people whose homes were either demolished or at the least, their roofs were ripped off, leaving them without much
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shelter from the rain. we're heading into the monsoon, the rainy season, the winter months here. that's a major concern for some officials. the power has improved dramatically for the aid effort with u.s. cargo planes coming in as well as australian cargo planes. more ships coming in and out, evacuating many survivors from this area. but it's still important to note that seven days after this typhoon swept through this region, there were still bodies in body bags on the streets here in tacloban, awaiting collection. this has been a grim, difficult, horrific week for the people of this region. ivan watson, cnn, tacloban in the philippines. >> our thanks to ivan for that reporting. and thanks to all of the members of our team for simply being there. anderson cooper is defending his reporting and the coverage of the typhoon disaster in the philippines. in recent days, a filipino news
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anchor slammed cooper, claiming he said there was no government president in the hard hit area of tacloban, and he said cooper didn't know what he was talking about. sanchez is married to the nation's interior secretary who was part of the response effort. here's anderson's response. >> can would actually say that all week long in every report we have done, we have shown how strong the filipino people are. the people of tacloban and samar and cebu and all these places where so many have died, they're strong, not just to survive this storm, but they are strong to have survived the aftermath of this storm. they have survived for a week now, often with very little food, with very little water, with very little medical attention. can you imagine the strength it takes to be living in a shack? to be living, sleeping on the streets next to the body of your dead children? can you imagine that strength? i can't. and i have seen that strength
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day in and day out here in the philippines. and we honor them with every broadcast that we do. >> and anderson's reporting has been inspiring and heart breaking from the philippines. tonight, his show shows you the emotional reunions in the philippines. a family separated by the typhoon comes together again. ac 360 airs tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. coming up, right here at home, a woman is saved just moments before her car sinks into the water. you'll see the dramatic rescue. >> plus, are staffers inside the white house afraid to tell their boss bad news? how could the president not have known about the looming disaster of his health care rollout? we'll discuss. but first, every year, more than 10,000 children are diagnosed with cancer. some of these kids miss their treatments because of lack of transportation. that's where this week's cnn hero comes in. i want you to meet richard narez.
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>> it's paralyzing when you hear those words, your child has cancer. i know what those families are going through. >> sun's coming up. >> it's extremely difficult. my son, he was diagnosed with cancer. it was such a horrifying -- we were fortunate. we had rides to the hospital to bring emilio. many families don't have that support. good morning. we found out many of them were missing appointments. my name is richard. no child should miss their cancer treatment due to lack of transportation. ready to go? we give over 2,000 rides a year. our furthest cancer patient is 120 miles away. riding with emilio plays an important part of their treatment. we get them here in a nice, clean environment, and on time. >> we live here. it's every day. treatment.
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welcome back. i'm rosa florez alongside john berman in new york. right now, a tense meeting at the white house. president obama and the ceos of major health insurance firms were told some of those execs are furious, just absolutely
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livid that the president now wants them to reestablish health coverage plans he has slammed as practically junk. and he needs to be -- it needs to be done rather quickly. >> of course, the president's back is to the wall amid stories of people losing health coverage after his pledge under obama care, if you like your insurance, you can keep it. with us now from washington, gloria borger, and bob cusack. i want to talk about some of the things that have been said over the last couple days because they're startling to a lot of people. one of the things the president said is he was never told directly that the website that we have all been obsessed over for the last few weeks, no one told him directly it wasn't going to be ready. this has led many people to wonder, isn't there anyone inside the white house who can give him this kind of bad news? and i don't want to put the blame on them. if there is no one who can give him that news, isn't it his
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fault for not having them there? >> it is. i have been doing a bunch of reporting on this this week. and the question is, was there anyone inside the white house who had all of the bad news? there was nobody -- no czar in charge of this entire program. i think there was a bunch of bad news that was coming in and out of the white house. and i think nobody likes to give their boss bad news, but nobody knew the whole picture of just how devastating this was. this is a white house in which people are encouraged, i'm told, to sort of stay in their lane. if you're one in one lane, you don't want to tell stories out of school about somebody in another lane. and that's a problem. and i also think that there has to be kind of a designated truth teller who has immunity, if you will, to go to the president and say, you know what? we have a really big problem here. i'm not sure, but you need to know about it. >> bob, is this an issue of no-drama obama becoming no truth behind closed doors obama?
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>> i think this has -- the president has to think, how am i running this white house if i didn't get this information? i mean, congressional democrats are furious at this white house. they have been warning the white house that they better be ready for this rollout on the website. the enrollment, all that kind of stuff. obviously, senator max baucus said months ago he that it was going to be a train wreck, and it has become a train wreck. 2014, the election landscape has dramatically changed over the last month from the shutdown where republican s clearly took the blame, polls show. now we're not even talking about the shutdown. that's old news and this storyline, this obama care storyline, especially with the website not being fixed, we're going to talk about this for weeks if thought months. >> if not years. >> i think there was a sense inside the white house that this is a tech problem. they're going to get this fixed. they're really smart people. we've got reallymarte everyw, and it doesn't rise to the level of panic.
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this is not a white house that panics. and there are democrats that i talked to on the hill who have said to me, you know, we could have used a little more panic. we could have used a little more somebody running around with their hair on fire and saying this is a problem. and you didn't get it. >> bob, can i take like several steps back for the last question? doesn't it speak to an issue all second-term presidents face. they seem to run into such serious problems, almost unrecoverable. makes you wonder if we have to rethink this second term thing. maybe go to one single six or seven-year term. >> absolutely. with bush and clinton and now obama. legislatively, obama has gone 0 for 2013. no gun control, not going to get immigration reform, and a lot of the political media is talking about 2016 and hillary clinton. i think it's going to be difficult for obama to turn this around, and clearly, step one is fixing the website. >> thank you guys both so much.
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have a great weekend. >> thanks. and we move on. the police officer who quit after getting caught drag racing is keeping his job. >> let's see. >> carlos rogers quit rather than face discipline after he was seen on youtube racing another motorcyclist. the police chief in montgomery, alabama, offered him his job back saying rogers has a bright future. he'll be back on the job today, but hear this, not back on a bike for several weeks. a woman saved just as her sinking car went under water. it happened in sanford, florida. cynthia was heading to the mechanic when her steering wheel locked up. she lost control and ended up in a pond. garza called 911 but some bystanders got there first. >> i don't know if i should try to open the door, but water is coming in the car.
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>> by the time i jumped the curb, i already had tunnel vision in my head that i knew what i had to do. >> by the grace of god, they came right at the perfect moment and got me out before the car completely submerged. >> it went all the way under. you couldn't even tell a car was there. >> garza said it's a blessing no one was with her. hear this. she had dropped her kids off minutes before the accident. coming up after adopting him as an infant, parents send their 9-year-old son back to children's welfare. and now they have been charged, but no one can find them. this is a fascinating case. it's coming up next. store and essentially they
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welcome back, everyone. we have news just in here. president obama has been at the white house meeting with insurance executives. this coming on the heels of his announcement that he would like to extend to people insurance if they want to keep it, even if that insurance doesn't meet the standards of obama care. a lot of people on the individual market had received notices they would lose their insurance. yesterday, you'll remember the president announced he wanted to extend that for one year. a lot of executives were unhappy about that because the president had been bashing the plabs and they're accusing him of changing the rules in a ninth inning of the baseball game, and now he wants to reoffer plans he suggested were bad to begin with. the president meeting with what could be a hostile crowd at the white house. this has been going on for some time. a short while ago, we received video of some remarks he gave at the meeting. let's listen. >> all you all lined up? got it?
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sometimes they break things. well, i want to welcome the executives who are here from a lot of the insurance companies that are participating in the marketplace. we all share a similar value, which is we want to make sure that americans have good, solid coverage that gives them the security they need for themselves and their family members, if and when they get sick. and we know the demand is out there for that. we had, despite all the problems with the website, over a million people apply. many multiples of that wanted to see what options were available. obviously, because of the problems with the website, you know, some folks have been blocked from seeing the well priced benefits that are available in the marketplace. and so we're working 24/7 to get it fixed. the website is working a lot better now than it was a couple
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weeks ago. what we're going to be doing is brainstorming on how do we make sure everybody understands what their options are? because of choice and competition, a whole lot of americans who always have seen health insurance out of reach are going to be in a position to purchase it. and because of the law, we're also going to be able to provide them health, even if they are still having trouble purchasing that insurance, but they have to know what the options are in order to be successful. i appreciate all these folks coming in. we're going to be soliciting ideas from them. this is going to be a collaborative process. we want to make sure we get this done so in the years to come, every american is going to have the kind of affordable health care that they all deserve. so thank you very much for being here. appreciate you guys. >> you just heard the president there speaking with insurance kickatives at the white house. he called this really a brainstorming session to make sure people understand what
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their options are. he did not directly address what i expect will be a subject of conversation, which is his request that these insurance companies noallow people in the individual market to keep their insurance even if it doesn't meet obama care standards for another year. one of the reasons they will probably be talking about this is the president can't require it. he has to ask them. he has to ask state insurance commissioners, and it's no sure thing. i want to bring in dana bash right now, and dana, the president has his constituency in congress where you work so much of the time, and he's also got to deal with the insurance executives who he really needs as partners despite the fact they haven't always gotten along. >> that's right, they hadn't always gotten along. ironically, the insurance industry bought into this. at the end of the day, if obama care works, the insurance industry is probably going to make a lot of money because this is still insurance. if obubomba care is still insure through the private sector, so
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the -- they're required by law, people are required by law to get insurance they otherwise would not have had. yes, in some cases the government is giving them subsi subsidies, but it's still going largely into the pocket of the insurance companies. now, the sort of partnership that the obama administration has had with the insurance industry over the past few years in building up this system so that obama care could launch, is certainly threatened big time because of the fact the president yesterday said basically never mind. he wants them to call and send letters to the people who have gotten cancellation policies because the policies were not up to snuff, weren't up to the mandates and the requirements under the new law. so this is going to be a very tough discussion he's going to have. never mind what he said in public, got to be sure that's the subject they're talking about, not just brainstorming generally. >> you make a great point. the insurance companies have made money in the past.
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they're going to make money in the future. no question about that. the big picture, this shows only how complicated this has been and may not get easier despite what the president has announced going ford. dana bash in washington for us, thank you. still ahead on cnn, after adopting him as an infant, parents send their 9-year-old son back to children's welfare. now they have been charged, but no one can find them. let me tell you, this is a fascinating case, and it's up next. the day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day. he was a matted mess in a small cage. so that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers, you can find it all on angie's list. we found riley at the shelter, and found everything he needed at angie's list. join today at angieslist.com
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we're just about 15 minutes away from the lead right now, and today, jake tapper sat down with a certified mega star. the one and only matt damon. so my question to jake tapper who is with us right now, is how did you like them apples? >> i liked them just fine. what's interesting is we sat down with him because tuesday is world toilet day. and this is an issue that matt
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damon has been interested in and involved in through his group, water.org. bringing sanitation services, bringing water to these small impoverished villages all over the developing world. it's fascinating. you know, i think it's a jumbo jet every four hours crashing. that's how many kids die every day, jumbo jet full of kids crashing every four hours because of the illnesses that could be prevented if more people had access to clean water and sanitation. i asked matt damon, how did he first get involved in this issue? this is what he had to say. >> because i couldn't even relate to it as an american. i go, water, you know, the kitchen sink, the bathroom sink. you know, there's bottled water, water everywhere. you know, and sanitation. a toilet, yeah, there's the guest room toilet. there's the toilet in your bedroom. you know, there are toilets everywhere. how can this be?
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and yet, 2.5 billion people lack >> it's interesting because this is not an issue that the american people or anyone really wants to talk about. it's not glamorous or sexy but it's that precise reason why he thought he could make a difference by talking about this and bringing attention to it that first got him involved. of course, we talked about a lot of other things and you'll be happy to hear that he did bring up that baseball team you both root for. >> jake tapper and matt damon in the same room is a whole lot of dreamy. cannot wait for this. "the lead" with jake tapper starts in a few minutes. look forward to seeing it. still ahead, a couple is on the run after giving up their 9-year-old son. they adopted him as an infant and now are facing charges.
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now to new and chilling surveillance video showing the horrifying moments when a gunman opened fire inside new jersey's garden state mall earlier this month. you've got to get close to your television screen for this one. you can see shoppers panicked, running for their lives. the masked gunman, 20-year-old richard shoop, calmly roaming the mall. shoop stalked the aisles carrying a rifle modified to look like an ak-47.
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he fired at least six bullets without striking anyone in that shopping center. 911 tapes were released last week. you can hear the fear in callers' voices. >> somebody is shooting up garden state plaza right now. >> there's somebody shooting? >> somebody is shooting up garden state plaza right now. >> okay. all right. stay on the phone with me, sweetheart. how many people are in the bathroom with you? >> three. >> are they in your store? >> yes. >> 911, where is your emergency? >> garden state plaza. >> yes? >> yes, i'm at the garden state plaza mall, where there has been a shooting. >> yes. >> and i'm -- i work here. i'm inside the store, in the office by myself. but i'm scared and i want to get out the mall. >> shoop was later found dead inside that mall of an apparent police believe he never intended to harm anyone but himself.
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an ohio boy who was adopted when he was just three months old has been handed back to children's welfare by the parents who have raised him for nine years. the couples actually in legal hot water for this. the parents aren't talking so we haven't heard their side of the story, but after being indicted by a grand jury for leaving the boy, they yanked their other children out of school and disappeared, just completely disappeared from this upscale home in a suburb of cincinnati. here to talk about this case, cnn legal analyst and former federal procedures, sunny hostin and clinical psychologist jeff gardere. police were given a disturbing report in august which you have in your hands. >> that's right. i have the ohio incident report from the police department. it says she was very fearful because he threatened everyone in the house with a knife. she also reported that he had some sort of mental disorders that he had been treated for but
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that she believed he suffered from other disorders that had not been treated and she was actually going to try at least to get him to the children's hospital to place him on some sort of 72-hour hold and additional testing. >> one of the things that's really disturbing about this, one of the neighbors mentioned this was a bad seed child. what does that even mean? >> i think when you look at this issue of geno type, the genes you inherit, it is possible that you might inherit some criminal behaviors but pheno type is what happens, what type of environment do you need to have for this to actually take place, to develop this behavior. so you can't look at a child as being a bad seed. you can look at a child that is very troubled or in an environment that may be the perfect storm where they may inherit some sort of a disorder and then if they don't have the support of environment, will act out. kids don't say i'm really troubled, i need help. they do things like this child has done. >> that show they need help. one of the things this made me
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think about was the kid who snuck on to the plane to las vegas, the stowaway, and the father who kind of gave a heartwrenching plea after the fact. let's listen to what he said. >> i don't know how my 9-year-old son's brain acts. i been asking for help. no one stepped up to help. i'm in double jeopardy. if i whoop my son, i get locked up. if i let my son keep on doing what he's doing, i get in trouble. somebody please help me, please. >> you can hear the anguish in his voice. what's he to do? >> obviously, i think what's happened with this individual, but with the parents, they are literally at their wit's end. that's what's going on. they can't handle this particular child, but it is their child. you can't give the child away. >> we're sort of all dancing around this is an adopted child that they decided to sort of give back. you don't give back your child, adopted or biological.
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this isn't a pet. this is a human being. someone that you are tasked to love and care for. so i'm happy that the legal system has intervened but if they are convicted, only six months in jail. not much exposure there. >> you have to talk about the prosecution. is the prosecution sending a message saying we are going to charge these parents? >> i think they're certainly sending a message. i get a lot of flak because i'm a former prosecutor and we are tasked with sending messages to our community as to what behavior will be tolerated in our society. that's what this is saying. >> bottom line, you adopt a child, you know the child may have some issues, you're not sure as to the lineage what's going on, you are going to inherit problems. but that's part of being a good foster adoptive parent. you deal with it and help that child. >> you have problems when you have your own biological children. you don't give them back. >> who you going to give them back to? >> more than anything, you have to love these kids. >> it's all about the love.
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>> i appreciate you both being here. have a great weekend. that is all for us this afternoon. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for being here. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. tired of getting bumped by jimmy kimel? matt damon is joining us today. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the world lead. cnn has been on the ground in the philippines since the super typhoon hit, giving you the most comprehensive coverage of the disaster, and yet our own anderson cooper is being attacked now by the philippine elite for something he said on this very show about the government's response. anderson joins us live from the disaster zone in moments. the money lead. this toy looks awesome. a remote control boat suggested for ages 8 and up but wait a second. is that the logo for rock star energy drink stamped on the side? didn't the company swear to congress that it was not marketing to kids? and top

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