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worked for a lot of prominent republicans. had worked on a lot of legislative issues and very horrifying crimes of which he has been accused. not convicted, but accused. >> chris lawrence watching the story for us. what a horrible story it is. thank you very much. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." "newsroom" continues right now with brooke baldwin. hi, there, ymg brooke baldwin. thank you for being here with me on this thursday. let me tell you, it's a big day for washington and a big day potentially for folks all around the country who are flat out sick and tired of this partisan food fighting here. you have the u.s. house of representatives, tah-dah, will soon vote on a long-term budget. no government shutdown, no crisis talks at the white house, no temporary fix concocted on the fly. no, no, i'm talking today about a real live budged. very adult of everyone, wouldn't
you say? that said, we have some drama breaking out. this is among republicans. john boehner, remember this moment yesterday? telling off fellow conservatives, in particular, conservative lobbying groups saying some of his own people are trying to kill this budget without even seeing what's in it. let's hold it there and bring in dana bash because you have talked to speaker boehner today, correct? is he singing the same tune? holding his ground, as it were? >> he doubled down, brooke, big time, and it was at a press conference earlier today with me and other reporters. he went off again on these conservative groups and explained more why he was doing so. listen to what happened. >> mr. speaker, you were pretty tough on outside conservative gri groups for their criticism of the budget deal. they had a lot of sway in a lot of the decisions your members have made over the past couple years. does this budget mark a turning point and our your members at
your behest going to be more focused on compromise and maybe less on what the outside groups are pressuring hem to to. >> i take my fair share of criticism from the right and the left. i came here to fight for a smaller, less costly federal government, and this budget agreement takes giant steps in the right direction. it's not everything i wanted, but when groups come out and criticize an agreement they've never seen, you begin to wonder just how credible those actions are. it's not everything we wanted, but our job is to find enough common ground to move the ball down the field on behalf of the american people who sent us here to do their work. >> and brooke, he also said they're misleading their followers and even went back to the shutdown and noted the fact that it was these groups in part that pushed his rank and file to want to tie the obama care defunding to funding the
government, which led to the shutdown, which he admitted he didn't want to do from the get go. very interesting that he decided this is the moment that he would kind of go unplugged with regard to these groups which have been making his life pretty difficult as a leader here. one last thing, i just spoke to a representative from one of the groups, heritage action, just before going on with you. they're not backing down. they say they're a little perplexed because they feel they have genuine policy differences, but a lot of republicans on capitol hill aligned with the leadership say, you know, this is a long time coming because there are a lot of different factors at play here. politics, money, and pressure. >> you know, and hearing speaker boehner there as well, he said, listen, this is not everything we wanted. by the way, i'm reading it here from my perch in new york. i know all the action is where you are in washington. this is sort of a classic compromise. let me run through some of what both sides wanted and didn't necessarily get. first you have republicans wanted but not getting this newer, simpler tax code, set at
simpler rates. they're not getting social security reform, not getting medicare reform, and then on the flipside, democrats failed to get a tax increase on the wealthy. they're not getting another extension of unemployment aid. so obvious question, but i have to ask it. do they have the votes to pass this in the house and presumably, shortly down the road, in the senate? >> that's a very important question, brooke. we expect the vote later today in the house. you know, i was talking to a republican member who was against this, a conservative against this and will vote no, who told me he's surprised at how many colleagues who weritel him they were going to vote now. it's unclear exactly at the end of the day what the final vote count will be, but the presumption among democrat and republican leaders is there will be enough of both parties to put this bill over the edge, and it sort of brings us back to where you started the segment, which is that is not something we hear
very often these days and we haven't heard in a long time. bipartisan push among leaders in both parties to sort of say to the extremes of each party, we know this isn't what you want, but we have to start somewhere, and this is a compromise. >> we'll watch for the vote some time today. dana bash for us on capitol hill, appreciate it. he says he is a champion of sign language. others say he's odownright fraud. the man on stage at the nelson mandela memorial telling his side of the story to cnn, and he's defending his ridiculed performance saying he's schizophrenic but qualified. let me be clear. cnn has not confirmed that diagnosis, but he has reportedly told other media outlets he was hearing voices in his head and hallucinating as he was up there signing. now, an equally bizarre statement from an official in south africa admitting the mistakes did happen but defends
this interpreter saying there's no sign language standard in that country. joining me now, david mckenzie, who interviewed this man, and david, how is he defending himself? >> well, he's defiant, brooke. he said he did a good job, as you say, he used those words, he was a champion of the event. several hours, you saw him standing next to the world's most prominent leaders including president barack obama, signing away. he looked confident to those of us who don't understand sign language, but right away, people started complaining, saying he was talking rubbish, none of it made sense. the obvious question i put to him is could you sign something for me? let's take a look. can you show me some of the signs? >> people, i interpreted for
them through these years. they say i'm -- i'm speaking rubbish. but if i was speaking rubbish, and then there was nothing that had been done, and then it's only now when something has been done, and then i must again make another sign, so you want me -- you want to call me what? >> no, i'm just asking fuyou can show me some of the signs. >> let's be realistic. >> he wouldn't show me the signs, but he did say he has been doing this for several years and that's true. we dug up old footage. he was doing this for president zuma several years ago. he said no one has ever complained about his performance, but in fact they did. several years ago, they did. the question is how did he end up on the stage in such a prominent place, basically signing nothing to an audience
in south africa where this was probably the most important event in this country for several years, if not decades. >> talk about being on the world stage, and of course, someone is going to notice. the other important question, david, is the fact he is mere feet from world leaders. the president of the united states, i mean, we talked so much about security in this country. do we know, was he vetted? >> they say he was vetted. they say the government, any one part of the service had appropriate security clearance. so they went through the right security channels. it's not as if they just walked in. well, that probably is true in this case because he has been part of the entourage of signing with world leaders or at least south african leaders for some time. the question is, again, why did it take so long to point him out? we went to the company which supposedly contracted him for the big job, and they say they know nothing about him. and so there might be something else going on here, relating to cash. we don't know. but he's saying that though he's
schizophrenic, this did not impact on his work. but everyone who understands sign language here in south africa says he was making no sense at all. >> something is not adding up here. david mckenzie, thank you so much. sknloo coming up next hour, we'll talk live to a former secret service agent. we're pushing this forward. how could someone with this mental illness get so close to these world leaders, i.e. barack obama, what kind of security checks could have been done, should have been done. that's coming up next hour. now this. >> i'm back to week one. we have accomplished nothing here. my healing process is out the window. >> this man's wife and daughter were killed because this teenager drove drunk. but this teen won't be serving any time. why? because he is rich and spoiled. you have to stick around to hear this defense. this is absolutely outrageous. plus, a stunning twist in the case of a police officer convicted of shooting a man
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and a judge okayed it. now, the teen who had faced up to 20 years in jail, will not be going to jail at all. let's begin with cnn's randi kaye. >> he got drunk then jumped behind the wheel of his pickup truck and plowed down four people in a drunken haze. so why isn't ethan couch behind bars? keep in mind, he's just 16. too young to legally drive with any alcohol in his system, and in this case, his blood alcohol measured .24. three times the legal limit in texas. eric boyle's wife and daughter were both killed. >> we had over 180 years of life taken. future life, not 180 years lived, but 180 years of future life taken, and two were my wife and daughter. >> investigators say surve surveillance tape shows couch and his friends stealing beer from a walmart store in june. then they got drunk at a party.
leaving there, police say couch gunned his pickup, going nearly 70 miles per hour in a 40. just about 400 yards down the street, he slammed into holly and shelby boyles who had stopped to help brianna mitchell fix a flat tire. youth pastor brian jennings was driving by and had also stopped to help. all of them were killed. ethan couch was charged with four counts of intoxication manslaughter and tried as a juvenile. in one of the most bizarre defense strategies we've ever heard of, attorneys for couch blamed the boy's parents for his behavior that night, all because of how they raised him. a psychologist and defense witness testified the boy suffered from something called affluenza, a lifestyle where wealth brought privilege and there were no consequences for bad behavior. he cited one example where couch, then 15, was caught in a parked pickup with a naked 14-year-old girl who was passed
out. couch was never punished, according to the psychologist. he also testified that couch was allowed to start drinking at a very early age. even drive when he was just 13. prosecutors fought for a 20-year sentence, but the defense argued couch needed treatment, not prison. the judge agreed. and gave couch ten years probation plus time in alcohol rehab. no prison. she told the court she believes couch can be rehabilitated if he's away from his family and given the right treatment. he will likely end up at this pricey rehab center in newport beach, california. his father has agreed to pay the half a million dollars or so it will cost. >> taking him away from his family and teaching him to be a responsible citizen, that's a consequence. >> a consequence? for killing four people? not even close, says this woman, whose daughter, brianna
mitchell, died in the crash. >> he'll be feeling the hand of god, definitely. he may think he's gotten away with something, but he hasn't gotten away with anything. >> randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> affluenza. you know these ladies, sunna hostin, and jane velez-mitchell. let's begin with you because you have seen many a case in your day, sunny hostin, affluenza, have you ever heard of this? >> never heard of it, it doesn't really exist. the psychologist who testified in court said he coined the term and he's been using it for quite some time. he's a psychologist and not a medical doctor, but i think what is so fascinating about it is we in the legal community have often said there's this disparity between wealthy kids, people in general, and poor people. you see that play out in the system. well, now we have a name for it. someone has actually put a label to it, calling it affluenza.
i think what is so sad and jane will agree, this kid now has no consequences for his action. it's not only a disservice to the child. it's a disservice to our comubts because we're saying if you have enough money, you can get away with murder. there are no consequences to your actions. and that flies against everything that i believe in and the judicial system, and it's not what the judicial system is supposed to stand for. >> you say this happens time and time again. >> the entire criminal justice system has affluenza, and this case is bringing the secret to the surface. we have an industrial service in the country that is complete with racism and clasclassism. i see this time and time again when i get there to cover celebrity cases and i see people spent away for years with boom, boom, boom, and then the celebrity comes in and everything is drawn out. >> great lawyers. >> great lawyers and money. our justice system is supposed to be blind, but it has 20/20
vision. >> let me flip it around and let me say, have you ever hurt of a reverse defense, where it was a poverty defense, where someone has never had a family, isn't taught consequences for a much different reason? >> that's used oftentimes by defense attorneys in sentencing hearings. they say this kid or young adult has had such a dysfunctional upbringing that they can't be responsible for their actions. i have never really seeb it work. >> if this was a poor minority kid, he would be going to the slammer doing hard time. i liken it to a plane. take our criminal justice system and make it a plane. those in first class go to rehab. those in coach go to prison. >> let me play some sound because this just, i think, hits it home. anderson talked to this man who lost not only his daughter but his wife, as part of the whole accident. this is what he told him. >> the defense attorney said, and i quote, there is nothing the judge could have done to lessen the suffering for any of those families. that's just not true.
>> and here's why i disagree. for 25 weeks, i have been going through a healing process. and so when the verdict came out, i mean, my immediate reaction is, i'm back to week one. okay, we have accomplished nothing here. my healing process is out the window. >> how can you not grieve for this man who lost two people so, so close to him? what about, though, if we're talking money and power and how oftentimes in our justice system, it prevails, what are grounds for an appeal? >> i have been, i think, the only legal analyst who says i believe the prosecution in the case can challenge the sentence. now in texas and other jurisdictions, you can challenge a sentence if it's illegal and sometimes part of that is you challenge because it's excessive or too lenient. i know i don't have a lot of support in the legal community, but i hope, i hope that the
government, the prosecutors are watching cnn and other outlets that are covering it and have the courage to stand up and challenge the sentence and say, this is too lenient. this is an inappropriate, bor r borderline illegal sentence. i think it could be successful. >> i think these victims will not have died in vein. if we use this as an opportunity to examine the criminal justice system. there are groups who have case after case of people who have done nothing and been sentenced to decades for non-violent drug offenses. we have to realize we're not being equitable and fair, and this is a travesty. we're saying there are some people who count and some people who just don't count. >> jane velez-mitchell, watch her every night, hln 7:00 p.m. eastern, sunny hostin, thank you to both of you. coming up, the police officer convicted of shooting a man after hurricane katrina has just bib acquitted. you'll hear why. plus, any moment, a vote is
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he killed him and got away. it's wrong. it's wrong! >> cnn's victor blackwell joining me live from atlanta. this policeman, man by the name of david warren, found guilty of murder several years back. his conviction tossed out. he's acquitted on retrial, but i guess it's not a surprise that the family of henry glover is so upset, looking at the mother. >> they believe a murderer walked free. we have to go back to 2005, to the days after hurricane katrina. officer david glover with the new orleans police department, he is -- i'm sorry, david warren with the new orleans police department, is outside of a police facility, but it's on the second level of a strip mall, so he's above ground. he sees 31-year-old henry glover walking toward, he says the stairs that lead up to the balcony. he thought is up glover makes it up the stairs, he's dead. so the officer shoots and killed henry glover. he then says that he does not regret it. he goes to trial in 2010,
convicted on federal charges of manslaughter. 25 years he's sentenced to. then in appeals, the officer is ordered to have a retrial because he was tried with the officers who led to a cover-up. glover's body, the man who was killed, was burned in a car after the shooting. all the officers were tried together. in appeals they determined because the officer who shot him did not know about this scene, the burning car with glover's body in it, he should get a retrial, and he did. after just a few days of testimony this week, he was acquitted. listen. >> okay, let's listen. >> the moment they delivered that verdict. >> it was a blow, like someone stabbed me in my heart. >> that was glover's sister, just inconsolable there as one would imagine. >> so what about back to this police officer, this man david warren. this is a man who has already
spent three years in prison, yes? >> yes, after that 2010 conviction, he was sent to prison to begin that 25 years. he'll be home for the holidays, and he spoke moments after that acquitt acquittal, and he said he understands how the family of henry glover, how those relatives feel. i want you to listen to him as well. >> elated. we think our client was innocent, we think he's been innocent since the beginning and he spent 3 1/2 years in jail, but the system ultimately worked. we'll also say we do understand the sadness of the glover family. they lost a son, a father, a brother, and we're not unmindful of that. >> and that was warren's attorney. he says that he is elated to be home. right in time for the holidays. he is a father of five and he said he has no interest in going back to law enforcement, brooke. >> victor blackwell, thank you. now to a story about a man imprisoned for a crime he did not commit. back in 1987, michael morton was
convicted of the brutal killing of his man. he spent 25 years behind bars. cut off from the world, losing contact with his only son. and then finally, dna evidence proved that morton was innocent. this is what he claimed all along. new day's quchris cuomo sat dow with him before the airing of our film titled "an unreal dream." >> i'm probably the personification of that old axiom from school, you can't prove a negative. how do you prove you didn't do something? >> how rough was it inside? >> i never liked it. but i got used to it. >> how long did it take you? >> probably 14 or 15 years. >> 14 or 15 years. >> to get where i was used to it. >> are the first years the hardest? >> the first years are hard just because it's a shock and it's
new. and it's constant adjustment. constant recalibration. >> what did you son mean to you? >> as i began losing pieces of myself, my reputation, my assets, most of my friends, as those things diminished, my son's importance rose, just if nothing else, supply and demand. >> how were those visits? >> to me, i'm a starving man looking at food on the other side. and i'm just eating it up and it's great and wonderful. i have since found out, well, he's looking at me as this guy that really doesn't exist in his life. somebody he just sees once in a while. >> as he started to grow up and wanted distance, how did you deal with that, and what u ultimately did it lead to? >> he suspended the visits, and eventually when i found out he had changed his name legally and
been adopted, few things are as powerful to a parent as the abject rejection of their child. >> you say, i always thought that i would get out. what fueled the hope? >> it's difficult for me to say whether it was just faith that i knew i was right and i wasn't guilty, that this would work out. or just that i didn't know how deep i was in. >> cnn film is called "an unreal dream." airs tonight, 9:00 eastern, right here on cnn. coming up, here's a scenario for you. you're flying, sitting back, relaxing on the plane. suddenly people to the right of you, to the left, to the front, to the back, start yapping on their cell phones. annoying, right? any moment now, a vote on whether that could soon become a reality. >> plus this. a fraternity pledge dies during
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desperately wanted out of her marriage to cody johnson, so she deliberately pushed her husband off the cliff after some kind of argument. keep in mind, like i mentioned, graham and johnson had been married all of eight days. any moment now, the federal communications commission will vote on whether to pursue a move that polls already show you don't want, allowing airline passengers to talk on their cell phones while in flight. maybe of you do, but many don't. look at this poll showing 59% of americans do not want people yapping on their cell phones midflight. but 30% of people say, we're okay with it. >> i need to be in touch with people, and the hour and a half i spend flying between atlanta and d.c., i lose that time. >> aviation and government
regulation correspondent rene marsh is live in washington. just so we're crystal clear as we're talking about this talking about a vote. the fcc isn't actually voting on whether or not to allow this, so what exactly are they voting on today? >> right, so the fcc, brooke, is moving forward with its proposal to allow flyers to text and talk on their cell phones during flight. and they're about to vote on whether to consider lifting the ban on cell phone use above 10,000 felt. we know fcc chairman tom wheeler defended the proposal at an oversight hearing on capitol hill this morning. he said technology is advanced enough to allow texting and cell calls midair without interfering with towers on the ground. he calls the ban outdated. take a listen. >> i'm the last person in the world who wants to listen to somebody talking to me while i fly across the country. but we're the technical agency, and we'll make the technical rules that reflect the way the
new technology works. >> all right, well, not everyone likes the idea. you saw those numbers there. some airlines have already said that this is a no-go for them, and we know one congressman already introduced a bill to block phone calls in flight, brooke. >> what about the department of transportation? they may preempt this issue anyway, right? >> absolutely. you know, on the same day that the fcc is talking about steps to allow cell phone calls on planes, the department of transportation just a short time ago, they say that they're taking steps to block them. secretary anthony fox said in a statement to cnn, that they're beginning a process that will look at the possibility of banning phone calls in flight. so what does that mean? it means that you may not get to make those calls midflight after all, because ultimately, d.o.t. decides aviation rules. >> i know we're supposed to be objective, but let me ask you, would you want someone on a phone next to you on a plane? >> no, i want to sleep and not
be bothered. how do you feel about it? >> i am the same way. i love the quiet. i love the quiet. rene marsh, thank you very much. coming up next here, more than a dozen teens arrested for allegedly ghost partying. have you heard of this term, ghost partying? police say they went to this vacant home, partied and walked out with a $250,000 stuffed snow leopard? okay. also walked out with some medieval armor, armani suits, but that didn't last very long. we'll tell you the one thing -- let's just say what it is, a dumb, dumb thing that led to their arrest, coming up. male a] if you can clear a crowd but not your nasal congestion, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter.
if you are ever invited to a ghost party, here's some advice. pass. a ghost party is thrown in an empty home that doesn't belong to anyone at the party and it often gets out of hand, as this one party did in los angeles. police caught these partiers after some of them bragged online. here's our affiliate kcbs on the case today. >> this youtube video shows this estate known for parties. but sheriff's deputies say the most recent one was what was called a ghost party, thrown by teens who cased unoccupied homes for sale. >> the suspect hosted a party, charged a fee, and probably 100 plus kids or so attended the party. >> then the party got out of control. >> somebody broke into the house, which caused a looting
frenzy. they started looting can causing damage. >> to the tune of $1 million. they recovered many items, versace suits, medieval masks and a snow leopard, a now extinct species. 100 teens made it into the house. 16 arrested, 13 of them juveniles. >> they were bragging about the party, showing themselves within the residence, showing themselves carrying some of the stolen property. >> we learned it's owned by a trucking magnate. he was out of the country when the party and vandalism occurred. he pointed us to his facebook pictures of the house. neighbors told us there are often parties behind these gates and they didn't think much of the commotion the weekend before thanksgiving. >> probably jumped the fence. not very hard because it's quiet. there are no street lights. and everyone has large acreage. >> deputies say parents have
been cooperative, but the teens face serious charges. >> they're kids of means that shouldn't be doing these things, but they got caught up in doing something wrong. >> next hour here on cnn, i'll talk to a member of the show-called bling ring, this group of teenagers who threw parties in the homes of celebrities in l.a. and left with a lot of loot. we'll talk to him about what's going on with teenagers and taking selfies with the loot they take from homes. don't do it. >> coming up, the butler completely shut out of the golden globes. that includes oprah. we'll tell you the three things to look for since the nominations have officially been revealed.
welcome back. i'm brooke ball wn. he was supposed to bond with his brothers, but now a fraternity plij is dead, and his brothers could be facing criminal charges for not acting fast enough when he lot consciousness. the 19-year-old man died monday. he was a student at faruk college in new york city. prosecutors say he was taking part in this ritual with the fraternity. it's called the glass ceiling, and suffered a fatal blow to the head.
>> i'm surprised it's pi delta si, because i heard good things about them. i am surprised one of their members got hurt or killed. it's shocking to me. >> let me bring in frederick maken, who is doing more on this, and glass ceiling, this fraternity ritual. what is that? >> you sometimes wonder what these people are thinking. it's a gauntlet ritual, where the person has to put a heavy object on their back, usually a bag, and then he gets blindfolded and someone makes noises and he has to reach that person while blindfolded and other people try to tackle him along the way. this is apparently what deng was doing, and in that process of that, he suffered a really bad head injury. then what happened is they brought him inside. he was unconscious, and later, they drove him to the hospital, but they never called an ambulance. they never called an ambulance. you could get medical treatment inside the ambulance.
this is one of the things that investigators are going to be looking into, was there some form of negligence. >> what about the fraternity? >> they say they're equally as shocked as all of us. they put out a statement. our early understanding is this incident occurred at an unsanctioned event strictly prohibited by our organization. as a result of this incident, we are immediately suspended all new member education ngzwide until further notice, and they said they're cooperating with law enforcement authorities. they say they're trying to get to the bottom of this as well. apparently, totally illegal event that was going on. >> i'm sure the kids feel horrible. >> i'm sure they feel horrible. >> fred, thank you very much. now this, coming up, much more on our breaking news, the newywed, this bride accused of pushing her husband off a cliff. the deal has been reached. we'll discuss that. what does this mean, legally speaking, this deal she's agreed to? >> plus, that interpreter in
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news here. i'm brooke baldwin live here in new york. we have been following this murder trial playing out in missoula, montana. it involves a new bride and an incident that happened in july in glacier national park. she had just said i do to her husband eight days prior and she ultimately admitted to pushing him off this cliff. the question became, was this self defense or was this murder? now, the prosecution had been out during the trial thus far, and they of course are arguing this was purposeful, that this was premeditated. she was charged with murder one, murder two, and lying to investigators. a deal was struck in which she has pleaded guilty to murder two, but it waives the other two charges. let's talk about the nitty-gritty of the trial, how this really was a gift, according to sunny hostin. sunny hostin rejoining me, jane velez-mitchell joining me. first, the deal. was the deal a surprise? >> it's a surprise to me because
prosecutors, once they have put in the resources to try a case like this, generally don't offer a plea after the case is closed and it's about to go to the jury. she was looking at first degree murder, which is life in prison. second degree murder, i mean, under the federal sentencing guidelines, you could still get life, but it's more likely she'll get 19 to 25 years because she has a clean record. it's still significant, but it is a gift for a federal prosecutor, which is what i used to do, to give that kind of a gift in a trial like this. >> what do you think? >> i think it was becoming more and more of a powerful circumstantial case. i think she felt that she could push him off the cliff and say it was an accident, big whoop, and walk away. and not so fast because what she did after that was so self-incriminatin self-incriminating. >> let's walk through the steps. >> instead of saying i was there with him, she said, some buddies picked him up and took him on a ride. then she created a fake e-mail
where someone named tony said stop looking because he died. then she tells a bunch of people, i don't know where my husband is. have you seen him? >> not to interrupt you, then what's interesting is she leads a group of people to the exact spot that he is found dead on the floor of this national park. >> and she says, well, i figured he'd be here because he always wanted to see this spot. >> before he died. >> thas not good. >> the other piece that came out, they found some sort of piece of black felt, right? going down the river, and this was a question of whether or not she had blindfolded him, thus perhaps premeditated murder. >> i thought they did. i thought this was the most incriminating piece of evidence because she was telling all he had said that she had told him there was a big surprise, that she wanted to give him. all these people testified, yeah, cody said, that's the husband, i'm going to get a big surprise from my wife today. yme i'm going to going a big
surprise. then they find the blindfold. how do you deliver a surprise inyou put the blindfold on and say, hey, honey, i have a surprise for you, boom. >> she did admit to pushing him in the back with both hands, which cuts against the argument of mistake. i didn't even think the prosecution needed the blindfold. the judge wasn't inclined to let it in because there wasn't a connect. i think this case was always about who does that? that's how juries look at these cases. i tried enough cases to know when juries go back in the juryroom, they use their common sense and say, wow, what newly wed would behave this way after pushing her husband? she admitted to pushing her husband. the only question was whether or not she intended to do it or whether or not it was an accident. >> let me ask you this, how does this even work? the prosecutor had plained their side of things. the defense hadn't done that. they were going to say this was a frightened young woman, she
didn't know what she was doing. this was self defense. her name is jordan. did jordan say, hang on. i'm sitting in this courtroom listening to this side of the story, i don't feel great about this. let me plead guilty. >> correct me if i'm wrong. i think the defense put on a case, and the prosecutor hadn't put on a rebuttal case. oftentimes what happens when there's a plea deal after trial, which again is very rare, that defendant is thinking, man, this evidence looks really good. this evidence looks really strong. this jury is looking at me in a funny way. i think i need to cut a deal. and then that person will go to the lawyers and say, you know, wow. or the lawyers will say to the defendant, this is where we're at. >> the reason why the prosecution did it is you never know. look at casey anthony. you never know. since there were no witnesses, only two people on the cliff, the husband and wife, that they thought, well, this is a gamble. we would rather get something that's firm than take a gamble and not get anything. >> and what i do wonder is
whether or not the prosecutor spoke to the families of the victims. because that's something i typically did before offering a plea, because it's very much about how the victims will feel. we just saw when we were talking about the affluezna case, how will the victims respond to whatever sentence is given? how will the victims respond to a plea deal? i suspect that the prosecutor spoke to the families and said, you know, what do you think about this? >> when i look at a case, i often look at how would i perceive this evidence if i was a juror? and for me, the blindfold was significant because people can have arguments, and things can happen in the heat of passion. oh, yeah, boom. and then you might want to give the person a benefit of the doubt in that kind of situation, but i thought it became very sinister when you find out about a blindfold and him saying his wife had a surprise for him. that crosses over into premeditation. when i heard that, i thought, i connect the dots.
>> now murder one off the table, pleading guilty to murder two. 15 to 25 years. >> if my memory serves me. >> i bet it does. sunny haaostin and jane velez-mitchell, thank you. and watch jane on hln tonight at 7:00 p.m. >> political pop in washington, the house of representatives, tah-dah, moving toward this vote on a long-term budget. this time, we're not talking about a government shutdown, not talking about last-minute crisis talks, the white house, no temporary fix, no kicking that can down the road. we're talking about a real live budget. first time in quite a couple years. we have dana standing by. dana bash and jake tapper, host of "the lead." dana, to you first, though. you were in the room. you were questioning house speaker john boehner, who i believe your words to me were, doubled down on his criticism of fellow conservatives for opposing this budget agreement. you also told us those
conservatives are doubling down as well. what is the feeling right now going into today's vote? >> the republican party is going to be split. the democrats, too, probably to a lesser degree. and that's what you get when you compromise. this is what a genuine compromise usually looks like. not everybody is happy on either side of the aisle. with the deal. but generally, enough people say it's a good first step or it's enough of what they want that they're going to approve it. but focusing just now on the republican side, it is a fascinating turn of events that you have the house speaker trying to get his rank and file in line or maybe a more specifically, giving them cover to vote for this by lashing out at these outside groups who continue, started yesterday and are continuing as we speak to send notices, to make calls to members of the house of represent tsks saying do not vote for this. substantively, the reason they say is because they feel it
increases fees or in some cases taxes. it does not do enough to address the long-term problem with the debt and deficit, and that it should not be something that conservatives should agree to, they should stick to principles. john boehner said, it's not enough, but it's a first step. >> this isn't just republicans not getting everything they want, this is democrats as well. just so you can understand neither side is getting not all they want. republicans wanted but are not getting a newer, simpler tax code. they're not getting social security reform. not getting medicare reform. on the flipside, democrats failed to get a tax increase on the wealthy. they're not getting another extension of unemployment aid. jake tapper, i know you today talked to nancy pelosi, the top house democrat. what was her advice for her troops? >> well, she's not a huge fan of this legislation, as you mentioned, it doesn't extend unemployment insurance for 1.3
million americans. sheul also said she would have liked to have seen some job creation measures in the bill, infrastructure by eliminated tax loopholes, for example, but ultimately, she told her members this morning that they should hold their nose and vote for it. that's not actually the precise term she used. we'll take a listen. >> so this morning, you told your members, embrace the suck. that's a quote. >> yes. >> that's a quote. >> that's a quote, yes. >> first, before i get to the substance of the bill, where did you get that? >> i think it really captured the moment, wouldn't you think? >> oh, i'm not criticizing it. it seems to sum up what you think of the legislation. >> it's not just the legislation. it's the whole process and the fact that we don't have unemployment insurance and those kinds of things, but at the end of the day, we need to have a budget. so what we decided is that our approach would be to -- >> you're not going to say it.
>> not on camera. >> embrace the suck. okay. >> embrace the suck. >> you tried, tapper. >> she got the expression from former congressman patrick murphy who was an iraq veteran and knows about days, months, years that suck, and she also noted that voting for this is not half as sucky as that. of course, she wouldn't use that term, but that was her implication. >> tapper, the eloquence you bring to my show. you and leader pelosi, i really appreciate it. >> i'm just quoting public officials. people say things and i quote them. i'm just the messenger, brooke. >> if that's just a sliver of this interview, we'll all tune in on "the lead" to watch more of the interview with nancy pelosi, embracing the suck on "the lead." coming up next, we're learning more about that interpreter who was signing at nelson mandela's memorial. he now admits he suffers from
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side of the screen. take a look on the left here, because that's an authenticating signer, her movements. vastly different from his. you see the difference here? he's still defending his performance, saying he is, quote, a champion of signing. >> i have never, ever, ever in my life have anything that said i've interpreted wrong. you can go through all the medias of south africa, all the medias of south africa. you can see my portfolio, i have been in papers for a long time. no one says i'm interpreted the wrong interpretation. >> he also says he suffered from schizophrenia, although cnn has yet to confirm that diagnosis. he also reportedly has told other media outlets he was having a schizophrenia episode, hallucinating, signing and hearing voices as he was on stage next to president obama.
>> i would like to see the people with deaf disability be accommodated as much as i want to be accommodated. >> what sort of disability do you have? >> i'm suffering from schizophrenic. >> anthony, a former secret service agent and vice president of international business development at trailblazer international. welcome to you. first question, your reaction. your reaction that this guy here was feet from barack obama. >> well, he was close by. and anyone that's going to be onstage during an event like this, and this was planned well in advance, was a responsibility in the selection of the host government. how they do work and have a plan of action or reaction with them. and what you would see in a large cut-away is the president came forward, his security detail and inner simple was
never compromised. >> we would have seen other secret service agents jump in at a moment's notice if something went awry. but you're saying it is on the host government, south africa, to vet. do you always 100% trust the host country to do so? >> well, again, we have to respect that the host government is going to select who's going to be onstage and such, but the secret service is going to work with them to find -- >> clearly, things were missed in this case, though. >> the host government were probably felt comfortable with him, but the secret service was not going to take anything for granted. >> what sort of risks does the president of the united states assume when he does travel to another country? i mean, i know you're saying he's at the mercy of the country in which he's traveling all the time. >> fortunately or unfortunately, the secret service agents, the men, the women, the uniformed
division, the agents, the professional administrative staff, we have a reputation for being very, very pushy and very forward thinking, and wanting these things to be done a particular way. and when we hear that they're going to take care of vetting and deciding who's on stage, fine. we'll acceptable that, but we're going to make -- we're going to put in place mitigating factors in case the work that they're doing is not up to our standards. >> did you find in your time that you had to do a lot of that? >> every time the president leaves the white house, it's for us, it's our super bowl. and everything must be absolutely perfect. and you're going to find our guys, our team are the hardest on themselves. and you know, after each event, even if on its face it's a perfect event, we're going to go threw and find fault and find ways to do it even better. i'm doing that now in private practice. >> anthony, thank you so much
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pay loads. what they're having trouble with is a sticky valve that's now allowing us to reject heat from internal to the space station. >> i love hearing about pay loads and space stations and everything else, but let's get real for a second. is this something that would make you nervous? the notion of an emergency space walk makes me nervous, but i'm no astronaut. >> well, so let's be perfectly clear. the engineers and the researchers here on the ground are aggressively working the problem. as i understand it, they have come up with a temporary solution. there's two loops that are available to them on space station. a loop a and a loop b. they have reconfigured the space station to handle the loads on loop b. they have shut down some of the electronics inside the space station as well as in the japanese experimental module and in the columbus laboratory. they're in a good configuration. there's no kind of imminent danger.
with regard to doing a space walk. it does have its hazards out there that make you want to be very cautious about doing it. >> hazards such as? >> well, so obviously, there's a litany of things because this is not something that's planned. it's referred to as a contingency space walk to do a repair. first, we have to understand what repair we would have to do if indeed we did have to go out there. it could be anything from just simply checking some connections, all the way to changing actual boxes and configurations out there. now, earlier this year, they had problems with one of the space suits. and they had water fill up, completely fill up, basically, extra water in the helmet. >> nearly drowned. >> well, so we never got to a situation where it was, you know, life or death. the astronauts worked through the problem. the ground team has been analyzing the hardware and trying to determine what the root cause was. they haven't yet been able to identify it or even replicate it on the ground, so it is a little
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here on this bride who has now accepted this deal, accepting murder two for pushing her husband off this cliff this summer. kyung lah has been on this as the trial has been under way in missoula, montana. huge news there for this woman. >> it really is a very surprising development. her own lawyers seemed very surprised. what happened was toward the end
of the morning, they were approached with a new deal, a plea bargain, saying they would drop the first degree murder charge, the lying to federal investigators charge, if she would agree to plead guilty to second degree murder, so she did. before the judge, before cody johnson ffs family, her groom of eight days, she told the judge what she said was finally the truth. they got into an argument on that cliff. that she did not walk away during that argument. that she pulled and then she pushed him with two hands off the cliff on the shoulder and the back. she pushed him off the cliff. that she panicked, and then she tried to cover it up by telling numerous lies to her friends, to her family, and to police at the local level as well as to the fbi. so certainly a very startling development in this case that is officially over, though. the jury was sent home, brooke. this case now over this young woman, 22 years old, now could face a maximum, since she has
pled guilty, to life in prison. >> quickly, on this young woman, i mean, what has her demeanor been like day in and day out in that courtroom? >> today, we actually saw this morning when her wedding video was played, we did see a little more emotion from her. throughout the trial, she's been quite reserved. she's been very stoic, but today, we saw her tear up quite a bit morph. the other thing that we did see inside the courtroom when this video was played is that people were quite emotional as far as cody johnson's mother and his friends and the other family members and this very packed courtroom. the other thing i should mention, brooke, when she did say the words, when jordan graham said the words to the judge, guilty to second degree murder, you could physically see her mother slouch. her aunt become very emotional, say the words yes, and that her friends were very, very emotional. certainly these were the words that they were hoping to hear
when she was explaining what happened on the cliff after being lied to for so long. >> understandably so. she's going away for quite a while, as you point out, kyung lah in montana for us. thank you. and now to a story here. this is about a boy. we're going to call him daniel. when daniel was 9, without anyone knowing, he repeatedly fought to save his brother's life. how? by ignoring the voices in his head. let me read you this quote from daniel's story on cnn.com. on a fishing trip, stephanie, daniel's mom, watched as daniel pushed their lunch supplies, one by one, off the top of a picnic table. when she scolded him, he apologized. he kept the real reason to himself. voices urged him to shove his 3-year-old brother into the lake so he would drown. daniel puxed things off the table instead. it was his way of deflecting the voices and keeping his brother safe. these are the secret struggles
of families who live with a person with severe psychological problems. too often we hear and report on what happens when families do not get help. newtown, aurora, columbine, and now one family allow eed cnn in their lives to help you understand the often unspoken side of living with the mentally ill. here's dr. sanjay gupta. >> when people meet my son, they don't see the mental illness. >> hey, mom. >> i want to tell you a story about the love between a mother and her son. >> they don't see the 20 hospitalizations. they don't see that he's hallucinating. he striechbs to be a normal kid, but he has something that holds him back from doing that. >> to protect his privacy, we're not going to she you his face or use his real name. for the next few minutes, he'll
be known as daniel. we wanted to get to know daniel and understand what life is like for a teenager with mental illness. there's laughter. fights about homework. >> that's all i got. >> daniel's in the eighth grade, but also this. >> is there any way i can show up there and wait in the waiting area? i don't want to be driving around with him like that. >> i was hearing voices and all of a sudden, i had the urge to cut, so i started cutting my arm. >> he was cutting himself again. it ended with a trip to the hospital. daniel stayed for a week. if stephanie seems to take it all in stride, it's only because she's seen worse. even worse than what you're about to see. >> go away. please go away. >> what is it like to record your son? >> it was horrible. what gets me the most are his
eyes on the video. he's got these huge beautiful eyes and he's crying and you see the despair in his eye. you know, it breaks my heart. >> make it go away. >> sanjay joins me now, along with wayne drash. you were the senior producer, the writer who broke the story initially, who spent months and months, i know, with this family. your piece is on cnn.com. i just tweeted it out, folks who are following me. wayne, i want to begin with you because since this piece went live on cnn.com, i know you have e-mailed with me saying you have gotten hundreds if not thousands of e-mails from people. take me back. when did you first meet this family and how much time did you spend with them? >> i first traveled out there in june. and we really -- that was an initial visit to see how we got along, to see how comfortable everyone was. with the kid, with these issus s
that daniel faces, you want to do a slow introduction. so we thought that was going to be about a two-week process, but stephanie and i got along immediately. and by the next night, i was introduced to daniel, and -- but i didn't interview him, where didn't talk to him. we did tell him about what our hopes and dreams were, that he would be able to affect and change a lot of lives by coming forward and speaking out. >> we'll get to those hopes and dreams, and i know stephanie's desire to defy the stigma. but sanjay, you, too, talked to daniel. at the age of 14, this young man is fully aware of what's happening to him and what his illness is doing to his family, which really is remarkable. >> yeah, you know, and i tell you, i spoke to wayne a bit ahead of time and read a lot of his reporting on this. and even despite it was still jarring, brooke, when you actually sit down and talk to
daniel, because you realize how self-aware he is of just how profound this mental illness is. and you know, he's a young kid. he's 14 years old and he's been dealing with this since he was 10. you also see the impact on his family. wayne talks about stephanie, who is this incredibly powerful mom. she comes home at the end of every day, not sure if daniel may have attempted suicide. that day, she just doesn't know from day to day what her life's going to be like. to see that first hand is incredibly powerful. >> we'll hear from stephanie in just a minute. wayne, you know, in reading where it sounds like daniel is self-aware enough to say it's time for my pill. i'm hearing these voices, or mom says we need to go to the hospital. but let me quote one more thing from your piece talking about stephanie, this mother. worry will occupy stephanie the rest of the night. if we're asleep and he does something, you know, that's just one of my fears, she says. i have never had that fear as bad as i have it now because
he's getting older, bigger, stronger. so she's having a tough time sleeping. how does she afford all this? we saw the shot with all the pills, when you talk about the hospitalization. >> just to back up for a second, like that episode of psychosis you saw on that video, daniel was 9, 10 years old at that time. so he was a young boy. so she could scoop him up in her arms. now, he's 14 years old. >> tougher. >> about 5'7", 5'8". 150 pounds. so she no longer has that. that is something that she worries about, as you say, getting older and getting stronger. >> what about the cost? >> yes, the cost, that's a fascinating question. she lives in the state of texas. with obama care coming, the restrixzs on medicaid have kind of come into effect.
actually, they were dropped from medicaid as of last month because of this income gap/disparity that has kind of been created by this non-expansion of medicaid. however, she does have insurance through her wo. that coeer much of the cost. but when you're seeing a psychologist twice a week, psychiatrist, and then any potential hospitalhospitalizatit the co pays s alone add up quickly. >> just the access this mother allowed both of you into their homes, she talked to wolf earlier today about why she gave this raw and open access to her family's life. here she was, stephanie. >> i made a promise to myself that one day i was going to do something to help others that were just like me. and now here we are.
it's actually very overwhelming. i fight back the tears because it's something that i wanted to accomplish, and i'm actually doing it, and the overwhelming responses, everybody -- i have a lot of people behind me, supporting me, and it's awesome. >> i just want to hear from both of you. sanjay first, and then ending with you, wayne. the response that you all have received, that she has received since being so open about this. >> yeah, it's incredible. you know, there was an expert that wayne had quoted in his piece that one person's love can make all the deferenifference. and stephanie embodies that. she's making a huge difference. it hasn't been easy. simply to get her son treatment, for her to believe it, and then to get her son treatment, has been a remarkable journey. but we hear from so many people. i have heard from tons of people in social media and e-mail. i think we pay attention to these things in the wake of some
tragedy. at that point, no one really thinks about all the preamble to this. hopefully, you know, daniel is going to plateau, he's not going to have increased problems. but he's an example of just how difficult it is for mentally ill people in this country to get the help they need. >> wayne, just 20 seconds. response. do you expect it would be so overwhelming? >> no. when you do a story on mental illness, when you have access like this, that's a worry, you're not sure how it's going to be received. but really, it was her honesty that really helped the story. she would tell me time and again, i don't want you to sugar coat it. >> wow. and you didn't. neither of you did. sanjay dwugupta, you'll have mo on this saturday, 4:30 p.m. eastern. sunday, right here in the morning on cnn. and you can read this entire poignantly, eloquently written piece here on stephanie and
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we'll pause, of course, for that, for the victims of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. we're two days away now from that one-year anniversary. the town will be marking exactly one year without their loved ones, 26 people of that 20 were children. poppy harlow is in washington for us right now. and poppy, tell me who's attending this service. >> people from all over the country, brooke. they're expecting about 1,000 people to be here, and it will start in just a few minutes. as you said, after the bells toll. this is a vigil, not only to honor the victims lost in newtown a year ago on saturday, but also to honor all of the victims of gun violence. we're going to hear from survivors of gun violence, going to hear from family members who have lost ones, both in newtown and elsewhere, to gun violence. but there's a fascinating and touching back story to this. it's about the two men that are largely responsible for putting
this vigil together. their names, monty frank from newtown, and pastor sam sailor from hartford, connecticut. pastor sailor lost his son to gun violence last year. and monty frank, of course, a father in newtown who grieves with that entire community. the two of them met after that tragic shooting, came together. they have been lobbying congress. they have been fighting for stronger gun regulation. and they are both very outsto pn against gun violence. they worked to put this together. we sat down with them for a long interview last week. i just talked to them again today. i want you to listen to what they told me, why they're here, why they're doing this. >> well, i hope it sends a message that we're united, honor with action, the children who have fallen, the lives. we honor their dreams, the lives that were lost with action, to make sure we have a better world. >> for u, monty?
>> when americans look at the faces of the people on the stage, all those who have been lost to gun violence, i want them to see that this is unacceptable. i want congress to see this is unacceptable, and i want them to have the courage to move ahead with stronger gun legislation so we don't come back here next year and have to honor another 30,000 gun victims. >> and the reason this is being held here, brooke, is for a few reasons. first, obviously, to send that message to capitol hill. both of them want to see tougher federal gun laws. but it's also so that it's not in newtown, because as you know, the town of newtown has asked the press to stay away on the one-year anniversary, to give them the privacy to heal on that day, so they're having it here, hoping people won't go there but come here to honor the lives lost. it's going to be a beautiful service. we're going do hear from singer carole king, from the world children's choir and the speakers i mentioned.
it's about to begin in a few minutes, and the bells will toll for three minutes before the vigil starts to honor not just the newtown victims but all victims of gun violence. >> poppy harlow for us at the beautiful national cathedral. >> as we go to break, i just wanted to pause just for all of us to remember. my mantra? family first. but with less energy, moodiness, and a low sex drive,
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talking about medieval masks, versace suits and a leopard. oh, yeah. these teenagers posted it online. this isn't the first time this happened. a group of teenagers got so famous for pulling this type of crime it was turned into a movie. but they targeted the hollywood elite. >> oh, my god. that's paris hilton. >> that's kirsten dunst. >> we wanted to be part of the lifestyle. the lifestyle that everybody kind of wants. >> paris hilton is hosting a party in vegas tonight. >> you guessed it. they went after paris hilton, lindsey lohan, and a member of "the bling ring" himself joins me live from l.a. to talk about what prompts young people to do this sort of thing. nick, nick, nick. listen, you were part of something similar so let me just ask you. when you look at all the loot that these kids took from this house, this mansion recently,
and then they took to social media and posted selfies with some of the stuff, really, let's be real, why are teens so stupid? >> i mean, i think it goes back to people wanting to show off, especially, well, teenagers. when i was a teenager, i kind of wanted to show like look what i have, and with instagram and twitter and everything, you can kind of get a constant live feed of what everybody has and what everybody is doing. i blame social media. >> you blame social media. how about blaming the teenagers? >> well, of course. of course. absolutely. no, they should not be in people's houses. that's really bad. but i just, i feel like there's a lot of pressure on our youth and teens not to steal but just to, you know, have the nicest things or just because of, you know, who we follow and look up to on these reality shows. >> remind me, when you were doing this, i think we even have a picture of you wearing the
orlando bloom jersey in your mug shot -- sorry about that. so when you did this, remind me, social media, were you guys tweeting and facebooking your loot as well? >> there was a little bit of facebooking. it was kind of before instagram and twitter was just more for celebrities, i think, then. but yeah, there were a couple pictures of us wearing the jewelry and clothing and it's like a weird kind of thrill, i guess. >> it's a weird kind of thrill. i'm also curious, do you think these kids, you know, most recently, is it the sense of entitlement because -- these are multi million dollar homes, these are celebrities who maybe wouldn't even miss some of these items, they have so much. is that part of it here, part of this thrill? >> i mean, that might play into why you could rationalize that it's not so bad to do that, but
i mean, i don't agree with just because somebody has a lot, you should take from them. but i mean, that might be a way to rationalize it. >> just couldn't believe the snow leopard they walked out of there worth $250,000 and they got caught. nick prugo of the original "bling ring," the real life bling ring, thank you so much for spending time with me. thank you. >> thank you. coming up next, big announcement, speaking of social media, from instagram today. we will tell you all about its new feature. plus, just in, the fcc moves a step closer on allowing cell phones to be used in flight. (vo) you are a business pro. maestro of project management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the
this just in to cnn. the fcc has voted 3-2 to seek public comment about lifting the cell phone ban on airplanes. to be clear, this is not a move to actually lift the ban, but it is a decision to pursue the idea even further. but when you look at this recent poll, it found that nearly 60% of americans do not want people to talk midflight on their cell phone. there you have it. instagram is going private. the company today revealed a new messaging feature called instagram direct. what this does, it allows users to send a photo or video privately to up to 15 followers with comments in realtime. what makes this app different
from the rest is that instagram users can only direct message text along with photos, private text only messages are not an option. and add another name to the growing list of celebrities' bands not performing at sea world orlando. trisha yearwood has now canceled her upcoming concert there. she was supposed to perform at the marine park february 22nd but her reps say in light of recent concerns, she has yanked her gig. it is not clear if those concerns are specifically because of the cnn film, the documentary "blackfish" that raised all kinds of questions about killer whales in captivity, or because of a petition on change.org that asked her to back out, but as we have been reporting, she is joining this growing list of performers who have canceled their shows following this film. initially you had the bare naked ladies, willie nelson, heart, cheap trick and now trisha yearwood.
that does it for me. i'm brooke baldwin here in new york. thank you for being here. you can check out our interviews on the brooke blog. now to washington. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. has anyone checked the temperature in hell? because when we're this close to a bipartisan vote on a budget and it looks like it might pass and we're ahead of schedule, no less, it's got to be pretty chilly down there. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the politics lead. minority leader nancy pelosi has told her side in the house of representatives to embrace the suck and vote for the budget deal. will they listen? pelosi joins us exclusively as the house prepares to put the budget deal to the ultimate test. the world lead. he was supposed to be interpreting for the deaf but an interpretive dance would have made more sense. the hand signer from nelson mandela's memorial