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>> reporter: greg tee finally got his tongue untied by pouring water over it. >> reporter: it was so cold a prison escapy in kentucky turned himself in. robert vic came to this motel and asked him to call the law. >> he had frostbit on his fingers. he was pit i full. >> reporter: akagsly those covering the weather uncovered tmi. >> reporter: a have three layers of fleece-lined pants. >> things are freezing on my body that i didn't know were possible to freeze. >> reporter: probably somewhere south of her polar plexus. jeanne moos, cnn. >> this is the polar vortex. >> reporter: new york. we are in for a big warmup. thank you for joining me today. >> legal view with ashleigh banfield starts now. president obama's ex defense chief, suggesting the commander
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and chief didn't believe his own war strategy. wait until you hear the bombshells about hillary clinton and joe biden. also, this hour, maybe the worst scam ever by some of new york's finest. heads down, through the door, ex-cops and firefighters accused of collecting millions in disability benefits based on a big lie tied to 9/11. long before anyone ever heard of edward snowden, a low-tech, high-stakes brakeeak at the fbi revealing underhanded spy tactics and dirty tricks. >> and what muhammad ali and joe frazier had to do with the whole break-in. it is wednesday, january 8th. welcome to "legal view." it has not hit the bookstores yet. robert gates, no holds bar
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memoir is shaking washington like an earthquake. everyone is talking about duty, memoirs of a secretary at war, which is due out next week. the republican, gates, delivers some scathing assessments of president obama, senior white house officials and former secretary of state, hillary clinton. his sharpest barbs are aimed at vice president, joe biden. jim acosta with some of the juicy details. >> reporter: at his farewell ceremony in 2011 after serving every president since richard nixon, bob gates left the pentagon hinting he had issues with washington. >> i spent a good deal of time venting frustrations with the pane ta gone brocureaucracy. >> reporter: as it turns out, gates launched a blistering attack on ebb pr. his white house was about i far the most centralized and controlling in national security of any i have seen since richard
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nixon. on afghanistan, he says, the president doesn't believe in his own strategy, and doesn't consider the war to be his. for him, it's all about getting out. he goes on to say, suspicion and d distrust of senior military officers became a big problem for me. >> i think his words will have a significant impact. frankly, i'm a little surprised, because a lot of times people are not quite as candid as it appears that his book is. >> reporter: how is this for candid? >> on biden he writes, he has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades. on hillary clinton, he said, hillary told the president that her option on the 2007 surge in iraq had been political. considering his place sitting in the room with obama, biden and
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clinton, his memoirs are seen somewhat as an act of betrayal. he said it was one of the most courageous decisions he had ever witnessed in the white house. >> you owe your loyalty to that man or woman in the white house. if you can't handle it, you leave and you are quiet. gates wanted to have it both ways. >> reporter: back at that farewell ceremony in 2011, the president praised gates as an example of service to country. >> the integrity of bob gates is also a reminder, specially to folks here in washington, that civility and respectful discourse and citizenship over partisanship are not quaint relics of a bygone era. >> reporter: according to the excerpts from the book, gates offers some kind words for president obama, vice president biden and former secretary of state clinton. it is clear the white house does feel stunned by this memoir. according to a statement, the president disagrees with gates
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assessment of vice president biden. the white house is planning what may be perceived as a show of support for biden allowing still photographers to observe the president and vice president having lunch later today. >> jim acosta, live for us at the white house. joining me now with more on this bombshell from robert gates is pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. your the perfect person to speak on this. you covered him as the defense secretary. he seemed to always be known as a very mild mannered person, not outspoken. you traveled with him. you probably know him best out of anybody on the cnn staff. does this come as a complete surprise? >> not as a complete surprise. i have to tell you, outwardly, publicly, bob gates, the consummate loyalist, the team player, always a little bit of that cia operative. he serveds as director of the agency. keeping his poker face about what he really thought, he thought that was the best way to
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get things accomplished. often, when it came to the troops, we would see the emotional side to bob gates. i have talked to a lot of people. the content of his criticism, no the a surprise. the emotion, being willing to put it out there publicly and be so emotional in this book, that's what's taken people by surprise. i don't think people expected that from him. it is not the bob gates that we saw publicly for so long. so that may be part of it. an act of betrayal or an act of emotion. if he was so sooeething and so angry during all those years, why did he stay? that may be the question a lot of people want to ask him. >> that emotional part, you stuc touched on something he just released today in the wall street journal. he talks about how on some of the times when he was before congressional hearings, he was so angry at the partisanship and
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the myopathy of the congressmen that are asking questions that just served their purposes and perhaps not the country's purposes. he said, i may be the secretary of defense but i'm also an american citizen and there is no s.o.b., i have to say, he says it full on, there is no s.o.b. in the world who can talk to me like that. i quit. find someone else. that's what he said he felt like saying and doing, folding up his briefing book and walking out of those hearings. did he ever actually belie those emotions? >> well, certainly not to the press core or publicly. every secretary of defense, every one of them that i've covered and all the people at cnn have covered, they get exhausted, tired, emotional. they get frustrated and upset with the washington bureaucracy. i think everybody thinks about throwing their hands up in the air and walking out the door. how close was bob gates to doing it? perhaps the real question is, if he was so upset, not just why
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didn't he go through with it and resign? if he was so upset and he stayed, can he assure people that he was giving president obama his best dispassionate advice as secretary of defense? could he do both things? could he be upset and still be effective? the one thing that there is no question about bob gates, is his emotions were tied to the troops? he was very publicly emotional in afghanistan when he visited iraq, when he talked to troops, when he saw wounded troops at walter reed? >> that's not unusual. i don't think i have ever seen a sec def not emotional when they talk about troops. what was surprising, perhaps, and enlighten me, barbara, a sitting president, memoirs are memoirs but they don't usually target your boss as he is still in the office. >> they don't.
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you have to decide when you do these things, you serve a commander in chief, a sitting commander in chief. there are sources that say that he is very comfortable with it, that is a historian, he wanted to tell his version of events while they were still current and relevant. he presumably doesn't expect to serve in the obama administration again. so he pays no particular price for it. there will be a lot of public discussion about whether this, again, is that act of betrayal. he has got the first amendment right, ashley. he can say as he chooses. that's as it should be. it doesn't mean washington isn't going to talk about it a lot. >> the speaker of the house has his first amendment rights to say anything he wants. a lot of people are talking about timing as well as the content of what he had to say. barbara starr, excellent work as expected and as delivered.
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thank you. there are certainly some bad apples in every bunch. now, it is true inside the new york city police department, fire department, some of these officials accused of stealing and cheating your money, folks. the charges and the lies are tied to the september 11th attacks. we'll explain in a moment.
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gets to the root of dandruff and hydrates the scalp. selsun blue itchy dry scalp. as scams go, the allegations you are about to hear are pretty big, shocking even in their brazenness and i'm quoting the manhattan d.a. when i say that. he is charging dozens of retired new york city police officers, including this martial arts instructor with faking ptsd, to claim millions of dollars in undeserved disability payments. the man you are looking at claimed he was too mentally traumatized to hold any kind of job but there he is with his mixed martial arts job. that's the brazen part. now, here is the shocker. many of the accused scammers, including ex firefighters and
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others, claimed they were scarred and incapacitated by 9/11. our susan candiotti has the details and some pictures that may be very hard to explain. >> reporter: the accused new york city police officers and firefighters were supposed to be disabled, unable to work, suffering from severe depression and anxiety. more than half claiming post-traumatic stress after the 9/11 terrorist attacks but photos filed by prosecutors paint a very different picture. this retired officer flipping the bird on a watercraft. this defendant playing basketball. and this one deep sea fishing. the retired tops, firefighters and alleged ring leaders pleaded not guilty. defense lawyers say photos don't prove anything. if you have somebody fishing on one particular day, that doesn't mean they do not have some kind of psychological illness. >> reporter: prosecutors contend it was massive fraud. a social security disability scheme designed to rip off
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taxpayers to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. dating back to 1988. >> this fraud not only forced federal taxpayers to finance the lifestyles of new york scammers, it took away from the already limited resources we have for people who actually suffer from psychiatric disabilities. >> reporter: authorities charged four masterminds with recruiting and coaching applicants on what to tell doctors, even duplicating forms, sometimes in the same handwriting. i am unable to perform any type of work activity in and out of the house, matches another form word for word. documents charged the accused ring leaders got kickbacks when defendants received their disability checks. they were also warned not to withdraw too much at once to avoid suspicion. authorities say videos and wiretaps will help prove their case. the man in the middle demonstrating martial arts is a retired officer, allegedly on
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permanent disable. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. pretty surprising when you see the pictures, you hear the details. they are all allegations at this point. that's why lawyers weigh in. for us, today, our defense attorney and cnn legal analyst, danny savalis is here and cnn course possible dent, denny jackson is here. do they prove anything, danny? >> there was a time when joey and i probably had to hire some gum shoe private investigator to wait in the hedges and take pictures of people claiming they were injured. i have no doubt they come from facebook, twitter, social media. that part of the job is completely gone now. if you want to get photos of people engaging in activity when they are engaging in activity, it is shockingly easy now. maybe that's the price of being
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social in america. that's what i'm betting these people did. not a thought to the fact that they might get caught. >> you used a term nudniks. >> for the defense, if i may, the long island railroad did the same thing when there was a disability fraud. there were dozens of people who were indicted. i happen to represent one of those people. things did not go go well for her in addition to a number of other people. some of these are defensible. there is a distinction between a disability and an occupation the disability. there are certain things you can do in your regular life, walking for short periods of time, running for some period of time. that doesn't mean you could comport with the job requirement, chase bad guys, jump over fences, sit for long periods of time. that distinction will be very
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important. >> we are over 100 cases at this point, 104 or so cases that they are going to have to incompetent ve investigate at this point. i wanted to high lalight a coup of them. one of them is a lawyer and former fbi agent and the chief of the rackets bureau in the d.a.'s office. he is 83 years old. another one, a disability consultant, who you would think would know better, a union official and a retired police officer. does that change the metric here? when you are talking about the kind of person you are charging as opposed to just the charge that's defense i believe? >> in many cases nowadays, we charge certain people with a heightened sense of duty, whether it be doctors or police officers. even if not legally, than morally, they tend to owe us more. i think that's the way the public views it. it makes them more appetizing
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defendants. this kind of thing is going on everywhere. this kind of disability fraud. if you make a subjective complaint, the words that come out of your moth at the doctor's office can affect what your benefits are going to be. if they can prove that those were coached, i think that goes a long way. >> to the 9/11 part of it. that also ups the anger. >> it is big when you look at a jury pool. at the end of the day, you have jurors that have to evaluate this case. if they are not sympathetic to this cause and poisoned by learning these were abusive claims, it becomes problematic. when you have people in positions of authority, you have the element of knowledge. it is hard to claim from a defense perspective my client had no idea this was occurring. defensible but very difficult to defend. >> when she say time heals all wounds, this will be a really good one for you guys to chew on
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an extraordinary confession has come from five burglars. we're burglars. we did it. we are coming clean. it was 40 years ago. they stole secret fbi documents from an fdi office that they pried open. they also helped blow the lid off of j. edgar hoover's vast spying on u.s. citizens and stuff back then people calmed dirty tricks. sound familiar? going to tell you all about this in a moment. open to ambition. open to bold ideas. that's why new york has a new plan -- dozens of tax free zones all across the state. move here, expand here, or start a new business here and pay no taxes for ten years... we're new york. if there's something that creates more jobs, and grows more businesses... we're open to it. start a tax-free business at
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decades before edward snowden showed the world the breathtaking scope of the united states government surveillance, there was a tiny group of peaceniks that broke ground there. they were convinced they were being spied on. what did they do? they pulled off a break-in that is only now being fully revealed. the burglary is the title of a new book by one of the first reporters that received the smoking gun documents that were
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mailed to the press by the burglars. those things were pilfered almost 43 years ago, march 8th, 1971. betty metzger, the writer, persuaded five of the eight people involved to speak out about what they did and why they did it. he are going to hear three of them in this video report from "the new york times." ♪ in the spring of 1970, the war in vietnam was raging. >> american battle deaths in vietnam now number 40,142. >> at home, anti-war protesters and law enforcement officers were violently clashing. >> it felt like a nightmare was unfolding. i took what was outrage and horror and i realized i had to
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take it somewhere. >> bonnie rains worked at a daycare center in philadelphia. her husband, john, taught religion at temple university. they were the very picture of a golden couple. >> we had an eight-year-old, a 6-year-old and a 2-year-old. we were family folks who also wanted to keep another track active in our lives, which was political activism. >> that activism attracted the attention of the fbi, it's director, the powerful and feared j. edgar hoover, received the anti-war movement which ranged from rat cal revolutionaries to peaceful protesters, as a threat toings nale security. >> at one rally, i had one of my children on my back. not only did they take my picture but they took her picture. >> protesters like the raines became increasingly convinced the fbi was conducting a covert campaign against them, tapping their phones and infiltrating anti-war groups. >> we knew the fbi was
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systematically trying to squash dissent and dissent is the life's blood of democracy. >> determined to get proof they were crossing the line, fellow activists and physics professor, william davanon hatched a plan, reached out to the raines and six others, a sougs woerk kerr, graduate student and taxi driver named keith forsyth. >> he we agreed to meet. he said, what would you think of the idea of breaking into an fbi office? i looked at him. i thought, he was serious, aren't you? i was pretty vehement. i felt like marches up and down the street with a sign was not cutting it anymore. it was like, time to kick it up a notch. >> the crew decided to break into a small fbi field office in media, pennsylvania. >> once i got over the shock of thinking this was the nuttiest thing i had ever heard in my life, it was like, this is a
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great idea. we are not going to make any allegations. we are going to take their own paperwork, signed by their own people, including j. edgar hoover and give it to the newspapers. let's see you argue with that. >> reporter: in the raines third floor attic, the team divvied up responsibilities and assigned tasks. they hung maps to learn about the neighborhood, planned escape roots and took extensive notes on the comings and goings. >> i signed up for a correspondence course in locksmithing. practiced several times a week. after a month, you get pretty good. >> bonnie was assigned the job to go inside and case the office. >> i was to call the office and make an appointment as a student doing research on opportunities for women in the fbi. they gave me an appointment. i tried to disguise myself as best i could. i went to say good-bye. i acted confused about where the
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door was. that gave me a chance to check out both rooms and know where the file cabinets were. >> bonnie discovered there was no alarm system and no he can is kurt guards. she also found a second door leading inside. >> when she came back with that news, we became convinced, yes, i think we can get this done. we had more to lose than anybody else in the group, because we had these kids. >> we faced the reality of if we were arrested and on trial, we would be in prison for very many years. we had to make some plans for that. >> with a solid understanding of how they would conduct the break-in, they now needed to figure out when. >> march 8th, 1971, frazier and l ali were fighting for the championship of the world. we had the feeling that maybe the cops might be a little bit distracted. >> while the crew waited at a nearby hotel, forsyth arrived at
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the office alone. >> pull up, walk up to the door and one of the locks is a cylinder tumbler lock and not a pin tumbler lock. i just about had a heart attack. i could not pick that lock. >> they almost called it off but the second door bonnie noticed gave them another chance. >> at that point, you know you are going to have to wing it. knelt down on the floor and picked the lock in 20 seconds. that ir was a deadbolt on the other side. i had a pry bar with me, a short crowbar. i put the bar in and yanked that sucker. at one point, i heard a noise inside the office. i'm like, are they in there waiting for me. basically said to myself, there is only one way to find out. i'm going in. >> next, the inside crew walked into an empty office wearing business suits and carrying several suitcases. they cleaned out file cabinets and then made their way down stairs to the getaway car and drove off unnoticed.
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the group reconvened at a farmhouse an hour's drive away and started unpacking. >> we were like, oh, man, i can't believe this worked. we knew there was going to be some gold in there somewhere. >> we are sorting files. all of the sudden, you hear one of them, oh, look, look at this one, look. >> incredible stuff. there is a lot more on this. if you want to see the entire story, "the new york times" website. go to that site and search out the retro report. there is an even longer documentary. a whole lot more information. a lot of legal implications as well. speaking of legal implications, i don't know if you have ever heard of the george washington bridge but it is one of the busiest bridges in the country, if not the busiest. it is on the left-hand side of your screen. what does it have to do with chris christie on the right -had side of your screen, the governor of new jersey. there are some pretty damming
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e-mails tying him to some intentional lane closures that messed things up for a community on the opposite side of manhattan. a community belonging to a mayor that didn't endorse him and his campaign. wow. more on that in just a moment. . first, i want a way to help minimize my blood sugar spikes. then, a way to support heart health. ♪ and let's not forget immune support. ♪ but now i have new glucerna advance with three benefits in one. including carbsteady ultra to help minimize blood sugar spikes. it's the best from glucerna. [ male announcer ] new glucerna advance. from the brand doctors recommend most. advancing nutrition for diabetes.
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e-mails emerging from top aids to chris christie bolstering the case that the lane lohclosures back in septem were born of a political vendetta against his opponents and not an incompetent traffic study as his administration made the claim. i have been reading some of these e-mails and they seem very, very damming. these are christie's aids but does anything go to the top and tie him to this? >> not as of yet. we have no evidence that he knew anything about these e-mails, the contents of these e-mails. they are damming. they do seem to very strongly
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suggest that the lane closures on the george washington bridge in september, 2013, were done directly to harm the mayor of fort lee, new jersey. that is the inescapable conclusion from the e-mails and text messages we contained. let's get to some of them. first of all, that is this one sent a few years from bridgeette anne kelly. she says, time for some traffic problems in fort lee. david wildstein responds, got it. that is the first time in these e mapl e-mails and texts that we see any sort of suggestion that there will be some action on the george washington bridge and it is not about a traffic study. time for some traffic problems
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in fort lee. the next thing that happens is the morning of september 10th, day two, the mayor of fort lee, here is the context, the mayor of fort lee and ruffle 60 democrats, when governor christie was running for re-election, one of his big points was that he was bipartisan, able to achieve things in a bipartisan way. he sought the endorsement of dozens of democrats. the democratic mayor of fort lee, new jersey, mark sokolich was not one of them. that is the accusation from democrats in new jersey. until now, without proof. now, bolstered by these e-mails an texts, that the mayor says in a text message to david wildstein of the port authority. presently, we have four very busy traffic lanes merging into only one toll booth. the bigger problem is getting kids to school.
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help, please. it's maddening. wildstein sends that text message to somebody else. that person writes back, is it wrong that i'm smiling. then, the person writes, i feel badly about the kids. a minute later, he or she texts, i guess. then, wildstein responds, they are the children of buono voters, barbara buono was christie's democratic opponent. the idea of revenge against people that are not on the christie side. >> this was the first day of school. the buses were all showing up late. there were also first responders, who said they were having trouble responding to their emergencies. there was radio silence. those are the actual words in some of these e-mails when there was a request. what's being said when the mayor reaches out and tries to get an
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answer from you at the port authority. radio silence as though that is sort of a badge of honor. this is very, very trouble willing. >> the mayor of fort lee, new jersey, calls in. bridget anne kelly asks if anybody got back to him. his name comes after mayor, i believe his name is fulop, that mayor is a democratic mayor of jersey city who refused to endorse republican governor chris christie in his re-election bid. that mayor said there was a lot of revenge against him for refusing to endorse christie. he didn't say specifically christi christie had anything to do with it. he refers to democrats that
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supported him as christiecrats. he says one of his bills was scuttled because he didn't endorse christie. on september 18th, after the story starts to get some tracks in the news, because there is the suggestion it was a political vendetta and a mystery as to why the lanes were closed on the first day of school. david wildstein says to bill stepien who is the campaign manager. he says, he is ready to go to work for empty boxes. he says the mayor, the little serbian, is going to have a bad november. he writes back, christie's campaign. it is fine. the mayor is an idiot. win some, lose some. there are ai lot of questions for governor christie based on
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these very damming e-mails from some of his top aids and advisers. we weren't able to reach christie. he said in december he took his aides word for it it was just a traffic study gone wrong. he did accept recommendations from a few of the officials. >> we are not going to get those answers at the swearing-in ceremony. we just got the notice an hour ago that chris christie has revised his schedule and this has been postponed. we will see if we can get any response otherwise. be sure to watch jake in "the lead" weekdays at 4:00 p.m. we have some bombshells about vice president, joe biden and secretary of state, hillary clinton. bought democrats are thought to be presidential candidates in 2016. does this make a difference? no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself.
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we talked earlier about how robert gates memoir which is due out tuesday is already rattling cages in washington. that includes the 2016 presidential race. gates is a republican.
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he takes a swipe at two top democrats weighing white house bids. he says that joe biden, quote, has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades. gates also recalls this exchange between president obama and hillary clinton. hillary told the president that her opposition to the 2007 surge in iraq had been political, because she was facing him in the iowa primary. so while that sinks in, joining me now, cnn political commentator, will cain shaking his head and ali cone who is shaking her head and laughing it off. you don't seem to think this is merely as critical as others. >> i don't. i haven't read the book. will hasn't read the book. no one has read the book but those quotes are in it. first of all, with he should note that gates says far more
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incredibly flattering things about hillary clinton, who he calls a friend and says he respects her judgment on a number of issues. he says all these things too. this is a republican smearing in a few passages two of the leading presidential candidates for 2016. republicans could find gum on the bottom of their shoe and use it to smear hillary clinton and biden. >> this is a guy that has been very muted. for most, he would be considered one of the most partisan players. he is not your average republican. >> he has worked for every administration since richard nixon except for bill clinton. the indictment here can't be overstated. what he has said is that hillary clinton and barack obama made decisions about war and fought foreign policy for political calculation. for some, whoa, politicians become politicians. he said president obama was
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skeptical, if not outright certain that his afghanistan strategy would fail. he sent 30,000 troops into battle knowing this would not work. that is unconscionable knowing how the battle is going to many could out ahead of time and going in any way. >> then, he said he made one of the most courageous decisions going after bin laden when i, bob gates didn't think it would work. he called him one of the most courageous presidents and lincolnesque. >> he did not say obama was an evil character or a village. what he said is that obama is not a leader. he is a follower. he followed political calculation. >> that is a critical issue, that he brings up with people that he knows have he well. 30 seconds. >> there are 400 pages in this book. we pull out a few quotes. there are other quotes where he said he respects the decisions that the president has made.
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republicans have fallen behind. they used to have the dominance on foreign policy. that was the one issue where they hands-down beat democrats, because of president obama. this is a desperate way to get it back. >> if we are going to make political calculations to affect our foreign pol circumstance we should elect gallup. >> something tells me this will come in. will kaine, sally kohn, thank you another book exposes a man named roger ailes. he is the former chairman of fox news. how he wanted to elect the next president of the united states? some allegations that are pretty serious, including offering a female employee an extra $100 a week for sex. a joke? appropriate? all that coming up in a moment.
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the former chairman of fox news, current chairman of fox news, being accused of serious stuff right now. sexism and racism. and wanting to elect the next president of the united states. again, a news man. it's all part of a brand-new book called "the loudest voice in the room" that hits stores january 21st. and let's just say it is loud, explosive, in fact. and to say that fox news is not happy about it might be considered an understatement. i want to bring in brian
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stelter, cnn media correspondent and host of cnn's "reliable sources." let's just say right off the bat, this is not a book that roger ails or anyone at fox news took part in, was interviewed or, correct? >> that's correct. >> they interviewed over 600 people for this book. >> that's right. and it's 500 and some pages ng,ttempt to be the defitive book about roger ailes and about fox news. it's been in the works for three years. and some of the allegations are pretty damning. >> among the allegations, as i skimmed through, some pretty embarrassing stuff, like suggesting that a producer named randy harrison, while negotiating her salary back in the '80s, offered her an additional $100 each week, quote, if you agree to have sex with me whenever i want. >> this was one of the biggest surprises, i think, in the book we have heard about so far. it seems outlandish. and yet the producer's name is attached to it and this former producer spoke to the author of the book directly. so that is a pretty serious
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allegation. fox says these charges are false. they have also said, by the way, that the publisher of the book, random house, did not fact-check the book with fox news. one of their responses. >> that fox news would not partake in the action. >> i presume if gabriel sherman had e-mailed a laundry list of questions, fox wouldn't have responded or would have denied it all. the point is, in the interview this morning, roger ails is quoted saying what's new is that random house refused to fact-check the content. and that tells you everything you need to know about this book and its agenda. and it's underable why roger ailes is out there trying ahead of time to downplay this book and say it's wrong. because it is going to be pretty explosive. >> explosive, to say the least. fox news has put out a statement, in fact, in response to this. these charges are false. while we have not read the book, the only reality here is that gabe was not provided any direct access to roger ailes, and the book was never -- flip that screen, if we can, because i don't have a copy on my desk,
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i'm going with it live. fact-check with fox news. >> this book is going to confirm their suspicions about fox news. it's going to confirm, once and for all, that fox is essentially a part of the republican party, or that roger ailes is the head of that party, so to speak. >> he also had some kind of scathing things to say if the book is to be believed, about his two big stars, bill o'reil y o'reilly, and brian killneed, says he's a soccer coach from long island. where did he get these things? >> clearly sources in the room with rorj roger ailes. authors don't make up this stuff. this comes from anonymous sources well-placed inside and around fox news. that said, they are usually anonymous. so some people are going to not believe a word of this. >> and this claim that roger ailes was so committed to having mitt romney elected as president in the 2012 race that he advised his running mate, paul ryan, that his tv skills needed some work and recommended that he get a speech coach. >> right. these sort of things seem true to me.
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i've covered fox news for decade and it's very well documented he speaks frequently to republican politicians, and has in the past given advice to people like former president george w. bush. that said, i think this book is going to go deeper than ever before. >> personal experience. roger ailes tried to hire me many years ago and i was in a conference room with him and i asked him about the fair and balanced tag because he had been lambasted as a conservative who had no come punctual about making his network conservative. and i said fair and balanced, is that fair. and he said ashleigh, it's not about whether i'm fair and balanced. it's whether taken in whole part with the rest of the media, my network makes the media fair and balanced. >> and you believe the rest of the media is liberal, then fox is a very important counterweight. the thing about fox, it is both a news operation, with respected news men and news women. and it's also in operation with pundits and republican commentators and former republican politicians. presidential candidates. it's both of these things.
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and that's why it's so fascinating. >> it's interesting, and it will raise a lot of hackels and i'm sure -- >> and just a couple minutes ago, booked gave sherman unreliable sources this sunday. >> that's the guy you're going to watch, reliable sources sunday at 11:00 a.m. good to see you in from the cold. >> thanks, yes. much nicer. >> we'll be right back. the human factor is brought to you by cancer treatment centers of america. care that never quits.
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♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday to you >> so that is the ever flamboyant dennis rodman singing happy birthday to north korean leader kip jong union who turns, everybody figures 31 today much his performance just before his squad of former nba stars played their controversial game against a north korean team this morning. rodman's team lost. this game comes a day after rodman's tirade during a cnn interview in which he strongly implied that kenneth bae, an american imprisoned in north korea for over a year may, in fact, have committed a crime against kim's regime. even though there have been no charges released or trial, it
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seems. bae's sister speaking on cnn "new day" this morning says rodman doesn't know what he's talking about. >> i was shocked by his words, and i think i don't think dennis rodman -- i'm not sure where he's getting his information. and i'm not sure how much credence i would give to his outbursts. i don't think -- he's certainly not a diplomat, and not an authority on this case at all. >> in case you're wondering, ap says that rodman's team played only the first half against the north koreans and lost 47-39. they split up and merged the teams for the second half. rodman played only in the first half, and then sat next to the president, kim, during the entire second half of the game. want to show you some amazing video from my hometown of winnipeg. all this week we have been talking about the bitter cold and snow across the united states. and is i keep telling you, i feel the pain, because i grew up in minus 40 in winnipeg. and here is how some of us in
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winnipeg like to enjoy the cold, winter months. >> this is winnipeg winter water gun fight. >> don't try this at home. we're trained professionals. >> thank you, winnipeg free press for giving us this awesome video and telling us what it's really like to live up there in the cold arctic temperatures. that was minus 33 celsius, minus 27 in fahrenheit. thanks for watching, everybody. stay warm. "around the world" starts right "around the world" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- basketball and a birthday song. dennis rodman pays tribute to north korean leader, kim jong-un, while many wonder why he is literally bowing to a dictator plus, harsh words for president obama by his former secretary of defense. but it doesn't even stop there. robert gates slammed vice president joe biden and former secretary of state hillary clinton, as


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