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point. causes lung cancer, heart disease, and more. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn reporting. >> that's it for me. newsroom continues right now with my pal, brooke baldwin. >> brianna keilar, thank you so much. happy friday. i'm brooke baldwin. not exactly a happy friday for a lot of people in west virginia. more than 300,000 people can't use their tap water to bathe, drink, cook, or wash. this is happening in west virginia because of a chemical leak. it infiltrated a nearby water treatment plant in charleston. this is so serious the u.s. attorney is investigating here. look at the map. nine counties in the southwestern part of the state are currently affected. even president obama is stepping in, declaring the incident a federal emergency. let me take you back to yesterday when this began when
the leak 13i8ed into the elk river and made its way downstream. it came from the 48,000 gallon tank at the chemical storage facility. this is a mile away from the west virginia american water company and it set off anodor that has been described as black licorice when authorities knew something was wrong. the big problem is that officials say they can't tell how much leaked into the water system. until they can figure that out, folks are urged to heed this warning. >> if you are one of those customers, do not use this water. the only appropriate use is toilet flushing. flushing the commode will be appropriate, but don't make baby formula or brush your teeth or wash or shower with it. you can't drink it. you can't just boil it. it's a do not use advisory. >> you hear that. toilet flushing and that's it.
people come into contact with the full strength of the chemical. it could be harmful if you drink the stuff. testing of the water is under way with the army core of engineers. as for where people can get their water, fema dispatched 75 truck loads of bottled water, you look at the pictures and there has been a run on water in all the local grocery stores. >> now it's under chaos. >> you are grabbing every ice bag. >> it's about gone. >> have to close off one. >> they are taking off left and right. >> this is about the third place trying to get water. i have been resorting to ice. >> what are you going to do about showering? >> you melt this town like in the olden days. it's like a bird bath.
>> they are going to melt the ice and they have no timeline and this statement just in responsible for the spill. since the discovery of the leak safety for residents in surrounding counties, it has been freedom industry's first priority. we have been working with local and federal regulatory safety and goes on to environmental entities to fix the issue. the team has been working around the clock since the discovery to contain the leak to prevent further contamination. joining me now is the eastern federal correspondent and by phone, kent carper, the president of the county commission going around today, making sure people are doing their jobs and testing the stuff. first to you. me more about what you have learned today and how sick you can get if you ingest it. >> i went to the site and when
they say black licorice, they are not kidding. it's an overwhelming smell and it makes you feel nauseous. it doesn't smell good. it smells bad. we know that if you are expoedsed to this and you are taught to drink this chemical, it's crude mchm, you could get sick if you touch it or if you drink it. here's the thing though. people who are touching it or drinking it now and hope they are not now, but have been in the past say 24 hours. if they are getting it in a diluted form. it is so diluted. they said don't drink it and don't boil it and try to drink it and don't do anything except for flush it down the toilet. >> to you on the phone, the county commission, as you start
the commission, it this personally affecting you and your home water? >> i lefed here my whole life and i'm a former police chief and i live here in charleston county. yes. >> this is affecting you. talk to me about how you have been spending your day, making sure people are testing this stuff. how are they testing this? >> the water company has a responsibility because the chemical got in their system. the freedom industry put it there and they will be 20 pounds lighter. we are trying to do it and what we did immediately last night to identify critical risk individuals. people in nursing homes and hospitals and things like that. we saw to it as early as 7:00 or 8:00 last night. the nursing homes and hospital and folks at risk got the water. we began to process unfortunately we had a lot of practice and began the process
of requesting and seeing to it that we were able to get water and set up deployment stations. they are dealing with over 300,000 people. the frustrating part is that the frustration is going to turn the pure anger. you can't tell you don't yet know when this is out of the water system. right? >> the testing phone calls, there no testing protocols in a public water system. you don't put a chemical like this. it's not designed to be dumped into a water system for human
consumption. there no protocols. the protocols that seem to be the closest indicate that the amount of chemical was in the water system is much higher than for human consumption. i'm not aware and i had a lot of experience in this area. i am not aware of ever having a do not use issue. >> this could be a first. for all these different counties. i lived in west virginia and that was years working in tv. this would have been affected me. they are wonderful, warm people, but you mentioned frustration can turn into anger. is there panic? >> they used to interview me all the time. yes.
obviously the easteseniors, som sensitive, but we have a decent system. we are still an area that had chemicals and we have unfortunately practice in this area. this is different for us. i did a national day and i am not going to waste anybody's time. it's what we are paid to do. this is a significant issue and how long it will last, i don't know. we are preparing for a long duration event. >> good luck and keep us posted. it has been years. both from west virginia for us right now. the justice 2k79 in the meantime is putting itself on a collision course with utah over marriage is. eric holder said as far as the feds are concerned, 1300 same-sex marriages roentlecentl
performed in utah are legally valid. they rushed to get married after a judge returned the constitutional amendment limiting marriage to a man and a woman. they stepped in on monday and put that ruling on hold, prompting utah to nix marriages already. >> i am confirming that for purposes of federal law, these marriages and lawful and considered eligible from the same terms as other same-sex marriages. >> bottom line here, all the same-sex couples who rushed to the altar for now, the government said they are married and their state government said they are not. we are expecting here any moment new documents on the bridge jam controversy that embroiled chris christie and possible presidential hopeful here. you have been following this with us. there a lot of players involved. let me break this down. the bridge gate started with an
e-mail support by this woman. the deputy chief of staff, bridget kelly who cnn learned may now be seaped. this is the e-mail. it read time for some traffic problems in fort lee. that e-mail was then sent to this man, david wildstein to the port authority of new york and new jersey. he applied with two simple words. got it. a month later, this lane closures with an apparent bogus explanation snarling traffic on the george washington bridge that connects fort. the traffic jam lasted for days. it was a mess. why? possibly retaliation against this man, the democratic mayor of fort lee. he did not endorse christie, but whatever the case, christie spent 108 minutes yesterday in front of a lot of cameras denying any prior knowledge of this plan.
>> i had no knowledge or involvement in this issue. there is no way that anybody would think that i know about anything going on. i don't know what else to say except to tell them that i had no knowledge of this. i said i don't know and i am humiliated by the fact that i did not know this. the answer is i don't know. >> both wildstein and kelly are no longer in their posts. joining me now, our cnn political director. mark, we are waiting on this 907 or so pages of these do you means from the state legislative committee, waiting for the document. when do we expect to get it. what could we read from the documents? >> we are looking to see when they are finally posted on line to color in the lines of the story that we still don't have all the answers for. aides have been fired by governor christie and his deputy chief of staff and a staffer
left his job from the port authoritiment we know his top political aide was asked to leave the organization. we don't know what's in the e-mails, but more to give us more color and more colorful language in the e-mails about why these lane closures were shut down. >> a lot was redacted and we wait to get the details at some point. let's fast forward here and play along with me. we talked about chris christie's career and his possible presidential ambitions as many have been speculating. his first contest, you have been there in iowa. at this stage, is there any way to know if this -- let's take him at his word that he did not know about it until two mornings ago. it could hurt him there. >> let's assume we take him at his word and these were rogue aides that abused their own power. they thought it was the right thing to do. for whatever reason, let's
assume he does move beyond this in the sense that he actually did a good job during those 108 minutes trying to defend himself and sound more compassionate and beat down the image that we think of him as a bully. where it does hurt him is that it has opened the door to new jersey. the national organizations are flooding the state and trying to find out everything they can about chris christie. we were going to do it anyway. no question about it. he is the front-runner for the nam nation and it accelerated at this point. people want to know how he interacts with officials and voters and how he uses his staff to avoid the government. in the coming year, he is overseeing the republican governor's association. this was going to allow him to travel the country to raise money and build a national organization. he is still going to be able to do that. at the same time people look into every corner of his life.
there is political narrative and legal narrative and definitely into how this can affect him. whether they are civil or legal. a story that shocked me this morning while i was drinking my coffee. a couple through ivf two decades ago, they learned that the husband's sperm was switched with another man's. now obviously there concerns this sperm belonged to an employee at the clinic and there could be a lot of his kids out there. you have to hear the story. also, take a look at the big board. the dow reacting to the disappointing jobs report. what's the reason behind the surprising results. we will talk about it next. [ male announcer ] megan doesn't know
that coffee breaks down tooth enamel. thankfully, she uses act restoring mouthwash. it rebuilds tooth enamel, making your teeth two times stronger. act. smile strong. . >> listen to this one. years after the birth of a child they now cherish, a couple learned they are the victims of a switch before birth. somehow this is back in the early 90s. the husband's sperm was switched with another man's as it went through in vitro fertilization, according to kutv, the family is
afraid for other couples who now used the closed utah clinic. more from kutv's chris jones who made up the names of the family members to keep their identity concealed. >> i told my husband and he said that sounds interesting. >> for paula and their daughter, ashley, for $99 and a cheap swab, 23 and me.com can trace your lineage back 10,000 years. >> i was looking forward to get results back. >> jeff and ashley she found -- >> i felt my stomach drop. >> they were not related. >> when i brought it up and brought my daughter's and husband's dna up next to one another, it said they didn't share any dna at all. i said it is showing you are not related. you share no dna. he said are you thinking what i'm thinking? he said of course. how ashley was conceived.
they had trouble getting pregnant. they received artificial inseminati insemination, a clinic associated with the university of utah. in 1992, ashley was born, but now the question is, who is her father? is it possible that someone at the clinic made a mistake with the sample. >> i had come to the realization that it was true and unthinkable and unbelievable was true. >> paula, using the track down and a cousin of the biological father who said this meant thomas r lipper worked at the very clinic where paula had been inseminated. >> i remember that he was at the front desk a lot of the time. >> liber worked in the lab and kept a collection of baby pictures behind his desk. >> he was very proud of the pictures. almost seemed like a brag board. >> the mother agreed to a swab and the result confirms that he
is indeed ashley's father. but how? paula thinks he switched his samples with jeff's. >> all those photos of the babies he was proud of, i said oh, my god, how many of those are his biological children. >> is it story gets more stunning. >> finding out was a shock. >> tom lipper before working in rnt was a college professor who served two years in prison for a high profile kidnapping case that made national headlines. in 1975 he snatched up a coed and kept her for three weeks. keeping her in a black box and using therapy on him. the famed attorney f lee bailey represented him. they think it's possible others may have been victims of lipper's switches as well. when it comes to their daughter, ashley, paula said she wouldn't change a thing. >> we're wouldn't have our
daughter if it wasn't what happened to us. i balance out everything than that. nothing is better than our daughter. >> chris jones reporting. kutv reports that thomas lipper died of liver problems and there is no proop that he actually switched the sperm samples. the university of utah did not own, but was connected to the clinic is investigating. officials say it's possible the sperm sample was mislabeled. let me read you part of the official statement. they say this. in addition, there is no evidence to indicate the situation extends beyond the case in question. we want to help alleviate this dispress by providing free paternity testing for cloins who received artificial insemination between 1998 and 1993. the university adds because of the association with and proximity to the clinic, they will offer free testing to patients who received artificial
now to the hottest rapid fire rolling. >> we begin with a diplomat arrest and strip-searched. she is back in india and it will head home. the diplomat is accused of lying for how much she paid her housekeeper. she was kicked out after being indicted. india told washington to pull a diplomat from its new delhi embassy. it regrets the moves, but will comply.
they realized the car was stolen. rescue crews were able to get out of the water alive with only minor injuries. the saints take on the seahawks tomorrow in the nfl playoffs. the last two times the saints visited seattle, it was rocking. not just noisy, but loud enough this register earthquakes. equipment is in place to see if it happens again. the seismic network installed two portable size mom ter. is in a maintenance room and we will have to see what happens on saturday. >> less than a month away, they issued a travel alert saying citizens planning to attend the
game should remain attentive. six bullet-ridden bodies have been found. today was revealed that the fbi said the personnel are in russia to help with security at the winter games. but the six bodies were found in separate cars in three separate villages near two of the cars. explosive devices. the latest on the security ahead of the games in sochi. >> in the wake of twin terror bombings in sochi's nearest major transfer hub where 34 people died, russia's top olympic official said he is convinced they have it right. >> it didn't change at all. our initial olympic mode of screening. in terms of the security. >> the systems got a test from
the top down a year ago he insis insists. president putin oversaw rehearsals. >> it's i project number and under the permanent control of the president himself. >> on wednesday and thursday this week, barely 170 miles. 240 kilometer away from the newly constructed olympic village. six bodies were found in four vehicles. some rigged to explosives. one detonating as police approach the. an exclusion zone was designed to keep just such threats at bay. >> we hosted an incredibility amount of testament. it was a great for securities. it's not enough for everyone. fbi director james kirby said
u.s. law enforcement in officials are already here in russia, ready to assist american athletes in what he describes as a challenging safety environment. in sochi, u.s. athletes can count on help from global rescue. a medical and security contractor that is no stranger to danger airlifting americans to egypt in 2011. >> russian officials remain convinced they are ready. even though the latest shootings leave many more questions than answers. cnn, moscow. >> nick, thank you. coming up, a pregnant woman on life support. her husband said he and his wife agreed they did not want to be kept alive by artificial means if when when they die. the state said this woman must be kept alive for the sake of her own born fetus. this story ignited a huge
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this is a case that has a lot of you talking and tweeting. the question is this: who is in control of your when you are not in a position to speak for yourself. we are talking about a pregnant woman considered brain dead. her husband wants to take her off life support. the state disagrees. here's cnn. rep she was a 33-year-old mother of a young baby boy, a paramedic married to another pair medding, expecting their second child when it happened. she collapsed in her home of an apparent blood clot in her lung. her family got the news shortly after. they said doctors said she was brain dead and would never recover. her is connected to a ventilator in this hospital despite her family's wishes. >> we reached a point where you wish that your wife's would stop. >> the hospital refuses to
unplug the ventilator. texas is one of about 30 states that restrict a woman's ability to be disconnected from support if they are pregnant regardless of the patient or the directive. eric and his wife are paramedics and end of life issues is something they talked about often. >> they have seen things out in the field and we knew we didn't want to be on life support. >> officials here will not say if she is brain dead, but in a statement they said the hospital will follow the law as it applies to health care in the state of texas. every day we have patients and families who must make difficult decisions. our position remains the same. we will follow the law. >> tom is one of the advisers who helped write this law 15 years ago and signed by then texas governor george w. bush, the southern methodist law professor said if munoz is brain
dead, the hospital has the law all wrong. >> if she is brain dead, she is already dead. letting her die is not the concept. can he say take her off the ventilator? i believe he can. surrogate decision makers make those decisions with their doctors every day. >> she was 14 weeks pregnant when she collapsed. the fetus is almost 20 weeks. the fetus still has a heartbeat, but it's not clear if it can survive. in the meantime, eric has to stand by and watch his wife trapped in a position he said she never wanted to be in. >> i can't say enough about her. what she was, i can't do her justice. she is a great woman. >> cnn, ft. worth, texas. >> the husband has attorneys and they are figuring out what legal action to pursue, looking ahead. no doubt this is heading to
court. for both sides on the debate, we will talk to sunny hostin and hln host jane velez mitchell. sunny, since we have you, let's begin with you. i cannot imagine being this husband and seeing his wife on this ventilator, knowing she is pregnant. two sides to the case. from what i understand, you are taking or speaking for the mother in this case, yes? >> the father and the family in this case keep on saying they had this end of life discussion or they had this end of life discussion. she had explained that she didn't want to be put on support. i think this is a different situation. i haven't heard from the family that they had the discussion that if i am pregnant, still don't put me on support. that's a consider that we have to think about. the law is clear, yes.
if there is a pregnant woman that she is to be kept on life support. this case is not necessarily unusual. rare perhaps, but not unusual. since 1982, there have been 30 women that have given birth while brain dead. many of them to healthy children. i suspect this is a case of a grieving father and overelmed father that may not want to be a parent to two children. i suspect that this discussion about end of life directive that she didn't want to be kept alive, even if she were pregnant, i can't imagine that discussion took place. this was a wanted pregnancy. this was a woman who had another child. i think that the hospital is following what the law mandates in texas. >> they are following with the law. we were not on the inside of this conversation that this woman had with the husband, but that's what the family is saying. jane velez mitchell, you
disagree with sunny, but there is no paperwork or documentation showing the wishes that this woman or a husband would want to be taken off of life support. that has to complicate things tremendously. >> brooke, this is a bad law and it's being twisted into even worse behavior. this law essentially says if you are a pregnant woman, you can't be taken off life support. she is brain dead according to the family. she is a corpse being used for an incubator for a child the family does not want. sunny, i love you, but i couldn't disagree more with your position. it's something out of a tale and robbing women of their power. 100 years ago, women didn't have the right to vote. in this post feminist age, we forget that and assume all the rights we have we will keep
forever. there forces out there. >> this is not women's rights. >> yes, it is. absolutely. this would not happen to a man. this is a woman who was being used as a mere vessel. women have been reduced to vessels. she is a corpse being uses as an incubator against the wishes of the father of the child. this child according to the family could have severe disabilities. she was passed out for an hour. the circumstances of the pregnancy are dicy. >> there is no indication that the child has any issues. >> hang on. one voice at once, ladies. we heard jane. sunny, respond to jane. >> there there is no indication at this point that this child has any issues. again, i suspect that this is about a father -- >> there is no indication it doesn't. >> this is not about a father not wanting to care for a child that is less than perfect, but that doesn't -- i think sort of -- you know, you can't be
dismissive of what the law is in texas. it's really i think crafted so that most people who do want to bring their babies to life are protected. >> you can't be insistent of a woman's desire. she was an emt. >> it is a question. >> we don't know. let me jump in. >> could i argue why? it opens a pandora's box. >> hang on. i hear the passion in both of your voices, but let me ask this. trying to understand this when we talk about the law reading article after article. i read a quote from the medical ethicist and he said the law doesn't hold up because the woman is considered dead. jane? >> yes. she is being used as a mere vessel. as an incubator. this opens a pandora's box.
what's next? i'm not being alarmist when i say there forces who would like to see parts of the world where women can't drive. what's next? are we going to say when a woman gets to a certain trimester she shouldn't be allowed to drive. >> i love you, but that's so intellectually dishonest and ridiculous. >> it's not. this is law. not a question of -- >> this is not a question of women's rights. if anything it's a question of her right to keep her baby alive. i suspect with a wanted pregnancy those were her wishes. >> i imagine this conversation is a microcosm. >> she was a medical technician. >> this is a microcosm of conversations going around and around. we have with the hospital and we have what the family said. we have to wait and see what happens next. i ark appreciate the passion coming from both of you. appreciate you both. thank you. coming up next, more breaking news here from the chris
christie documents. the 90 pages of documents from the investigation that the state legislative committee is all dropped. we have been going through these. we will see what they say, next. [ male announcer ] this is george. the day building a play set begins with a surprise twinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪
907 or so pages of do you means have been posted online. this is the initial investigation that we have for the new jersey state legislature pertaining to the debacle of governor chris christie and the lane closures and the traffic study of george washington bridge in september. we are hoping to get new information going through and reading through the documents to see if there was a motive for the text and e-mail exchanges. we have folks in washington doing that as soon as we get that up and get them in the front of the camera, we will pass it along. if that is going on, let me but this letter. this letter was meant for just one person, but it is touching many, many more. >> what i would like to be when i grow up. i would like to sail the oceans of india and climb mountains and shout out with joy. >> a little girl with big hopes and dreams. taylor scout smith of tennessee
thought a lot about her future. she thought about it so much that just a few months ago she wrote a letter to herself. words of wisdom and advice to be open when she turned too. >> to be opened in 2023 only unless said otherwise. >> taylor will never get to open that letter. this week she passed away of complications from pneumonia. her parents discovered her special letter tucked away in a box of journals and poems. letters she had written to encourage others. listen to her father read the young girl's message to her future self. >> how's? is pretty simple right now. years in your past. congratulations on graduating high school. if you didn't, keep trying. get that degree. if we are in college, what are we majoring in. i want to be a lawyer, but it has been years and stuff has
happened, goed and bad. that's how works and you have to go with it. >> taylor went on to ask about her baby niece, doctor who, and adult taylor's relationship with god. heart breaking as it is, her father finds comfort about a future that will never be. >> initially it's shock. waves of depression. hoping that it's not real if it's god's time, it's god's time. he loved her. more than we could love her. so much that he said come on. a father lot of his daughter to not curse god tonight and not hate god. the only thing i can say is right now it's easy for me to trust god because i know my baby girl trusted him. #%tia[
. happening today, a meeting to discuss the future of the "fast and furious" film series. that's what actor vin diesel told his fans on his face book page. he said he, the studio and others are all talking about the completion of "fast and furious 7. diesel has kept fans in the loop ever since his former co-star paul walker died in that car
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involves chris christie's administration. what will they reveal? a motive possibly? plus, a teenager shot and killed by a police officer. family members are absolutely outraged. they say the teen at the time only had a screwdriver. next, we're asking the officers lawyer to explain what happened. >> did that officer yell for help or ask for someone to shoot this man? >> no, sir, did not. >> then why did the detective feel like he needed to use deadly force at that moment? ♪ humans -- even when we cross our "t's" and dot our "i's," we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with our auto policies. if you qualify, your rates won't go up due to your first accident. because making mistakes is only human, and so are we. we also offer new car replacement, so if you total your new car,
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a police union is backing a north carolina officer under fire for shooting and killing an 18-year-old meantally ill man. his family says the man, who weigh eed all of 100 pounds, wa not a threat to officers. >> reporter: shortly after he shot and killed 18-year-old keith, we could hear south port police detective on the radio saying he was defending himself. >> i don't know if you've been advised or not but shots fired. i've had to defend myself against the subject. >> reporter: apparently suffering through a schizophrenic episode and holding only a screwdriver, keith vidal had been hit with stun guns and was on the floor of his home restrained by two officers when detective vasi
shot him in the chest. vasi's attorney now tells me why. you're telling me this young man was not subdued, he was fighting back? >> he was, yes, sir. >> reporter: he was taking that screwdriver and stabbing one of the officers multiple times? >> in the abdomen area, yes, sir. >> reporter: but not causing any injury? >> apparently he had not. again, apparently the officer had a bulletproof vest on. >> reporter: just 5'3" and maybe 100 pounds, the smiling teen in these pictures, according to vasi's attorney, had become such a threat to the one officer that vasi had no choice but to use deadly force. did that officer yell for help or ask for someone to shoot this man? >> no, sir, did not. >> reporter: then why did the detective feel like he needed to use deadly force at that moment? >> because the stabbing motion traveled to an exposed part of the down officer. and he was not being subdued.
>> reporter: the police benevolent association agrees. calls the screwdriver a deadly weapon. and says the officer used action. in sharp contrast to the family's belief that keith should not have died. >> why would somebody shoot a 90-pound kid with two full-grown officers on top of him with two tasers deployed inside him? there's no reason. >> reporter: was that the only option here, to pull a firearm and pull the trigger? >> at the instant that it occurred, again, having to step up into the shoes of the officer to make that judgment call, he had to make it in a split instant. >> was it the right decision? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: dampld mavid matti
cnn, southport, south carolina. near the top of the hour. we begin with breaking news in the unfolding political scandal surrounding the governor of new jersey, chris christie. cnn now has the documents we have been waiting for all day, 907 pages just released by new jersey lawmakers, revealing exactly what went on behind closed doors in cyhris christies office. this is all over the so-called bridge scandal. two of christie's top staffers fired in the wake of of this after they conspired to shut down the country's busiest bridge. a bridge that connects fort lee, new jersey, to manhattan. why did they do it? apparent political pay back. the mate e mayor of fort lee re to endorse christie. so welcome to both of you. >> thanks, brook. >> peter, quickly to you, we have a team in washington going
through this document dump, 907-plus pages. what are we expecting to learn specifically? >> we don't know. i mean, this is -- >> we have no clue? >> no clue here. i mean, the new jersey legislature, you know, ruining the nights of political reporters up and down the eastern seaboard tonight because we have to download these documents and go through all of them. you know, early on we're not sure there's going to be much in here beyond what was leaking already. it seems, you know, you would think that the most damaging stuff would have been leaked out of the gate. but we're still going to go through here and see. look, brook, i think if you look at the christie story in isolation as a political issue, you can make an argument that he did what he had to do yesterday and he might survive politically. the problem for christie is things like this, the civil suit, if it ever gets to discovery, a potential investigation by the u.s. attorney's office, those are the things that have the potential to really damage christie,
ensuring that there's sort of a drip, drip, drip surrounding the story that could drag him down. remember, he's got to travel around the country in 2014 campaigning for republican candidates. if he's surrounded by the whiff of scandal, are republican candidates going to hold him at arm's length and say, hey, don't come here for a fund-raiser, i don't want to have the local media uk thtalking about your s i want to talk about my own campaign? look at what the u.s. investigation into governor bob mcdonnell in virginia did to his political career, it killed it. i'm not saying that's going to happen here but these are things that we're looking at. >> we don't know yet. there's the of course national perspective. paul, you are on the ground, you are in the weeds with this story with the new jersey "star ledger." we know that the deputy chief of staff, as he mentioned, yesterday, out. in this inner circle of chris christie's, he referred to them as his family, let's say christie wasn't asking questions over the last four months over
this whole thing. his chief of staff who has barely by name been mentioned, wouldn't he have been asking questions? where is he in this whole thing? >> well, nothing christie says has much credibility here. because his communications director, mike ruin yak, a form "star ledger" reporter, was called, according to the e-mails, back in september, september 17, when "the wall street journal" got on to it. now, at that point, they began crafting cover for this thing. i mean, you know, he's a smart guy, i would expect he tried to figure out what was going on there. and the explanation that there was a traffic survey just didn't pass the laugh test. so it looks like -- and then, you know, in early december -- they waited until the election, then they threw raustein to the wolves. according to the e-mails, the press release was approved by
christie. now, is christie -- are we supposed to believe christie had no inkling of all this? until the e-mails came out, he still believed there was a traffic survey. when it's been obvious for months there was no traffic survey. >> that's my next question for you. because how is it -- we're talking about the busiest bridge in america, one of the busiest in the world, traffic mess for days, how could the governor of the state, especially when these port -- these officials with the port authority, one of whom, you know, was a dear friend of his from childhood, up and resigned, how is it he was not asking a single question for four monthses? >> it just doesn't, you know, doesn't pass the smell test. he should have been working on all these things. but i have a theory here. word around -- interestingly enough, thursday, when he gave his press conference, was also the last meeting of the transportation committee that's been breaking all of this news, right.
now, that transportation committee, the legislative session ends tuesday. they lose their subpoena power tuesday. i strongly suspect that the christie crowd was sort of hoping to limp over the deadline, have the assembly lose its subpoena power, and the scandal goes away. now, unfortunately, when the e-mails leaked, you know, there was no reason to hold a press conference after the e-mails leaked except the embarrassment. if he wanted to apologize for the bridge closure, he could have done that on september 14, you know? so the timing -- i think they're trying to get past that deadline and hope the whole thing would go away with the loss of of two officials. now there's two more and i think you're just going to see more and more and more come out. >> here is the inconext layer o myriad layers in this story. there is also now a class action lawsuit. new jersey folks suing over lost wages. you have the fbi now assisting the feds in this investigation. this is -- this is, for lack of
a better word, this is snowballing pretty quickly. what are the long-term effects on chris christie's political career? >> again, i think it depends on what has turned up in e-mails like this. again, if that class action lawsuit -- >> let's say he's telling the truth yesterday, that he was blindsided. >> right, if he is telling the truth, i mean, i think the perceived wisdom in washington at the moment is that he did well yesterday. he fired people. he gave on this sort of performance. he was hundrhumble but also pers at certain times. the question is, i think it's hard to separate the politics from, as you mentioned, the sort of snowballing effect of the u.s. attorney's investigation, of these e-mails today, of a class action lawsuit. again, if that goes to discovery and documents are requested. you know, that can drag on and on and on. if this was purely a political scandal, i think he might be
okay. he gave a press conference yesterday. the attention span of the news media is notoriously short. we move on and, you know, the presidential -- the first contest of the presidential race is two years from now. again, i just think it's hard to separate those two things, brook. >> paul, what about his constituents? you're there in new jersey. were there a lot of eye rolls after the news conference, no love lost? what's the sense where you are? >> well, i think his problem with his constituents is, you know, this is a story you can grab. everybody hates being stuck in traffic. there's not a member of the whitewater scandal where you couldn't even explain it in 200 words, you know, this traffic -- >> this we can understand. >> 91-year-old lady dies in ambulance, you know, it's something everybody in america can relate to very easily. it's funny, you know, it's humorous scandal really. the idea of sticking people in traffic as revenge for some political stunt. so it's, you know, now here he's
just -- he hasn't begun his next term. so, you know, he won that big landslide. and the other thing he said that was very odd on thursday, he talked about -- i think he said, like, he got 60 democratic mayors to endorse him, right? now, in the midst of all this, you sort of say, if this is one democratic mayor's way of getting, you know, getting the endorsement, one democratic mayor what about the other 60? like, were they threatened with anything? were they, you know, was that just good politics. so that was kind of funny. >> paul moshine, you may be laughing. i know one person who is not. but i appreciate you. we'll be looking for your column this weekend. new jersey star ledge, peter hamby. we have producers combing through these 900-plus pages, these documents. we'll have an update later as soon as we get more information. 300,000-plus people banned from drinking, from cooking, from bathing in their tab water right now, all because of this
massive water contamination leak in west virginia. this spill happened yesterday. a chemical storage facility in charleston. that's the capital of this place called freedom industries. the water then traveled downstream into this local water treatment plant. you have the corps of engineers on site conducting tests to see how bad this contamination is. nine counties have been affected. the u.s. attorney's office is also investigating. we just heard from west virginia's governor ray tomlin moments ago. >> until we receive an all clear, we are focusing efforts on helping the most vulnerable, those in the hospitals and those in our nursing homes. we've asked the department of health and human resources and the west virginia national guard to develop a long-term plan to help ensure that adequate supplies of water and food is
available. if you are low on bottled water, don't panic. because help is on the way. >> the ban has forced people to rush to grocery stores. they're trying to grab bottled water. even ice to melt into water. because you see the shelves, they're empty. just trying to get something to use in place of tap water. fema has sent in 75 truck loads of bottled water to these areas affected. cnn went inside the water treatment plant in charleston just to see what it was like and we're told there was an odor similar to black li icorice. when we talk about this water, you've seen this for yourself, tell me exactly what it does smell like, and what is this chemical? >> it smells blik black licorice mixed with something really kind of putrid. when you get near the plant, it smells really overwhelming. i actually felt a little
nauseous when i was standing there. what we know about this chemical, brook, is it's used to clean coal, needless to say, it does not belong in the water system. i have here with me jeff mack entire, who is the president of the water system, thank you for being with us. and this chemical on its label it says it's an irritant. if you're exposed to it at full force. when this chemical is diluted in the water, as it has been in this case, what do we know about what it can do to people? >> i don't know all of the different health effects it could have. it depends on the concentration. i've been given information that -- because we have to protect the health and safety of our workers who contact this water fixing leaks. we talked to a toxicologist. he indicated we should have no concern with contact in the dilutions in the drinking water. >> but still, how about concerns with drinking it? what are the health concerns with drinking it? >> we're still working on it. this product is not supposed to
be in drinking water. it's new to us. we have a lot of people working on it, trying to help us assess what level of this contaminant can be in water and be safe and maybe still have an aesthetic issue but how much could be there and still be safe. >> you're faced with really an unprecedented situation here, having this chemical in drinking water. i mean, other people haven't faced this situation before. >> i can't say no one and i can't say never but in my 30 years, i've never come across it, i've never heard of it. >> i know you don't have a crystal ball but about how long do you think will it take to get this out of the system so people can start drinking their water again? >> that's a good question. the key piece for us is to understand how much of it our treatment plant is effectively removing, so how much in the system is actually being delivered to the customers. it could be days. we're working to keep it very short. i don't think we're talking weeks at all. but the company is committed to working with the state and the agencies to make this a short-lived, you know, issue as possible. >> okay, so days but you're
thinking not weeks? >> i'm definitely thinking not weeks. i don't want to overpromise because we haven't gotten to the point where we know what quantity is in the water. >> is it possible when you tell people hopefully in the near future, it's okay to drink this again, is it possible there will still be small amounts of this chemical in the water? >> we're going to have to work with our partner agencies and come up with a consensus. there could be an aesthetic issue, a smell, a small slight smell issue that remains but doesn't pose a health hazard. we have to look at our customers and say, do they need that water to wash their hands, shower? if they decide it's safe, then they can possibly drink it. we haven't made those determination, but it's possible. >> it's possible there might still be a little bit of this left in the water? >> that could be determined to be the proper course of action. >> the first time you smelled it, what did you think? >> i smelled it on my way into the office. inthought someone -- smelled like anecet or black licorice as
you indicated. i thought it was an air release of some kind. wouldn't consider it has anything to do with a discharge to the elk river. >> later you found out it was actually in the water. jeff, thank you so much, thanks for joining us, really appreciate it. brook, back to you. >> sounds like he's saying maybe days but it could be just days until you can wash your hands and who knows how much longer until you can finally ingest this stuff. what a mess in west virginia. thank you. we did finally hear from the chemical storage facility freedom industries. this is their statement. since the discovery of the leak, safety for residents has been first priority. we've been working with local and federal regular la toeshgs safety and environmental entities to fix the issue. we're working around the clock to contain the leak. stay with us, because we'll be staying on that story for you. you have seen the shocking video. a toddler in diapers swearing, making obscene gestures.
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the mother of a nebraska toddler taken into protective custody this week is defending her son after this video went viral. it shows several adults cursing at her son. the omaha police officers association, this union here posted this on the website, saying this video is an example of, quoting them, cycle of violence and thuggary. we will play here just a piece of this video. please be warned the language is very crass, it may be difficult for you to watch.
>> [ bleep ], you a [ bleep ]. >> you a [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> stop, you're throwing a [ bleep ]. >> [ bleep ] you, [ bleep ] you, [ bleep ]. >> you're ain't taking that [ bleep ] now, [ bleep ]. >> that's why you can't fight [ bleep ]. >> you're a [ bleep ]. >> you a ho [ bleep ]. >> you're a ho [ bleep ]. >> what's up then? >> the boy's mom is 16. she talked to affiliate ketv. she says she does not condone what happened but also says all kids curse. watch. >> they weren't worried about the video because he had a cl n diaper, a clean dine eshg the house was clean. kids cuss. he's a smart little boy. all the cussing he did, he doesn't do that unless -- my son doesn't cuss like that, i don't
allow it. >> her son is now in child protective custody along with two other children for safety reasons. kelly wallace, our cnn digital correspondent editor at large for cnn digital, every kid curses? really? >> no, no. >> really? >> no, no, no. right. no, we know that. we know. a 2-year-old child in diapers. i mean, the mom, as you heard in that clip, she did go on to say, you know, he doesn't do that, they were telling him what to say and he was just in essence repeating them. and that's kind of -- there's so many troubling aspects to this. but kids model what grown-ups do. and so if you're cursing and swearing and laughing about it and saying sexually explicit things, a 2-year-old doesn't know what you're talking about but might repeat it because he hears it from the grown-ups around him. >> it's two issues. what's we're seeing in this video and people are clicking on it and laughing at it when
there's such a bigger story with this family. then you also have this police union, they're the ones who choose to post this online for everybody to see. and you say no, they should have gone to child protective services first. >> yeah, i really disagree with their move here. i understand they say they want to bring attention to obviously troubling issues in our society, but going to child protective services is really the way to make sure that this child in question is being taken care of. you know what, brooke, you know, we're not in the minds of the police officers union, so obviously we don't know sort of their motivations, but what happens here, it leads to some really racially charged conversations and people saying, well, would you have p.osted ths video if it were a white child? we know this happens in all cultures. there's lots of issue. we're talking teens having kids. we're talking poverty. we're talking lots different cultures. it just led to a very racially charged kind of reaction. it seems like the best way to
protect this child would be to go to child protective services, not post it for all the world to see. >> that is precisely where he and the other children are. sparks such a conversation, a debate here at cnn. kelly wallace, thank you so much. coming up next, it is a remarkable story of a teacher reaching out to his former students. this teacher is terminally ill. before he dies, he wanted to see exactly what impact he had and all his students. what he found surprised him and his students. he's writing this book. we get to talk to him live next.
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now to a story about life triggered by a prognosis of death. it centers on a pan who taught 11th grade in miami schools for 15 years earning him a teacher the year reward along the way. in 2006, he found out he had terminal brain cancer with less than a year to live. a seizure later forced him out of the classroom. no longer able to teach, dying, he could have been overwhelmed by the sadness, but instead he chose a path that has led to this book. he's calling it the priority list. a teacher's final kwecquest to discover life's greatest lesson. it chronicles his visits to some of the 3 authorization stude,00.
he joins me now live from new orleans. it's truly a pleasure. i tip my hat to you as the daughter of a former teacher myself, welcome. >> thank you, brooke. >> let's begin with -- a point in time you could not physically be in a classroom. instead, you choose to bring the classroom to you. describe the process of when you picked up the phone and called all these former students. >> well, actually, i didn't initially use my phone. i used social media. i had posted on facebook that i'd like to do some traveling and asked who had a couch for me. i was shocked that within 48 hours i had offers from over 50 cities around the country. so from the facebook step, i then began contacting all my students. and asking them when it was good for them to have me and -- it was just overwhelming, the generosity and love that i got back in return from my kids. and they made this entire trip possible. not only did they give my life meaning while i was a teacher,
but even after i left the classroom, they continued to give me a sense of fulfillment. >> reading your column at cnn.com, i didn't have dry eyes. normally, i quote people who come on my show. if i may, i know you have a tough time seeing with everything, but can you quote this particular graph that we selected out of your piece? >> certainly. i hope you don't mind, but my vision is very limited. and i need to have it on a small scale so i can just hold it in front of my face, so i'm just going to read it from here. and this excerpt reads, what i learned from my travels was my students had grown up to be kind and caring people. people who picked me up when i fell over curb, read to me from books i could no longer see and cut my food when i could not grasp a knife. they shared me with their deepest secret, introduced me to their families and friends. sang to me my favorite songs and
recited my favorite poetry. they recalled favorite lessons in books from class. to my great surprise, it was our personal time together that seemed to have meant the most to them. those brief intimate interludes between lessons when we shared heartaches and vulnerabilities and victories were the times that my students remembered. >> how much did that mean to you? the moments in between lessons. the moments you may not remember that meant the most. >> it meant the world to me, it really did. because the truth of it is, those were the moments when i was trying my hardest. when i really wanted to be at my very best. so that i could set an example for them that they could look to and perhaps even some day look up to. but when standing in front of the classroom, i was standing on the shoulders of giants. i was standing on mark twain's shoulders, ernest hemingway. when it was just one on one, me talking with one of my students
with my undivided attention and theirs, those were the moments that meant the most to me as well as them. but i'm surprised that mark twain got forgotten quite so easily. >> can we -- let me ask you, david, students aside. this happened back in 2006. what has life been the last seven or so years thinking you could die tomorrow? >> it's true. i am one of those people that has had to face my fate squarely. and my reality is that i have a brain tumor. it's not going to go away. but in some way, rather than taking that as a death sentence, it just gave me a sense of urgency that if there was living to be done, now is the time to do it. i mean, if i had waited to be fully healthy to take a trip around the country to visit my former students, i never would have gone. but with that sense of limitation on longevitity, i got off the couch and went right out
to see them. >> let me ask you a question. i have never, ever, in my 12 or 13 years doing this asked anyone. that is, walk me through your death. have you envisioned your death? would you want students present? or what would you want your former students to know on that day? >> oh, my. i want them to know that i've got this. i mean, since we were speaking about mark twain earlier, one of his lines that has always resonated with me was, i was dead for billions of years before i was born and it didn't hinder me in the least. and that's similar to my attitude towards it. it's not something that i'm afraid of. it's a natural process that we all go through. i would rather not die in front of my students, as i do not want to traumatize them. i would sneak out of my classroom whenever i had a seizure because i didn't want them to see it. and i've done my best to keep my disabilities away from my students. because i don't want pity.
i don't want sympathy. i want to have a good time with them. >> david, thank you. there are no other words. thank you so much. make sure you check out david's entire story. read it. cnn.com/opinion. coming up next, our very first look at the e-mails surrounding the bridge scandal and new jersey governor christie, including these conversations between staffers and how to answer questions from the media. a live report on these documents next. to gauge whether or not the projects will be done in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians. the service providers that i've found on angie's list actually have blown me away. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.
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breaking news here. as this is the political scandal surrounding new jersey governor chris christie, cnn now has the documents just released by new jersey lawmakers revealing exactly what went on behind closed doors in chris christie's office. this is all over the bridge scandal. two fired over the wake of this after they conspired to shut down the country's busiest bridge. this is the bridge that connects fort lee, new jersey, to manhattan. look at the traffic. they're accused of doing this as political payback. retribution. because the mayor of fort lee
refused to endorse christie in his gubernatorial re-election. joining me, joe johns, cnn's crime and justice correspondent. i know you have been looking over some 900-plus documents just uploaded online. what did you find? >> we're just making our way through these documents and there are a lot of them. there's a lot of detail about -- here's one, the reallocation of toll lanes at the george washington bridge. this is sort of a study that came as the result of changes in traffic patterns that made so many people angry. report paints a picture of the level of widespread anger. there's an e-mail in here that says fort lee police chief called it a monumental failure. and one of the things that's very clear is the test, the down sides of the test absolutely outweighed the benefit. something like 2,800 vehicle hours of delay, this report says. now, there's an e-mail we found
in here, and you know we've talked so much about one individual's name is david wildstein. turns out of course he was big enforcer for governor chris christie on the port authority. a full month later, after all the excitement on the bridge had died down, he received an inquiry, an e-mail, and someone asked him, has any thought been given to writing an op-ed or statement about the george washington bridge study, or is the plan to hunker down and grit our way through it? so wildstein writes back in a very glib fashion apparently, yes and yes. so nothing conclusive there, and, again, we've seen this lack of sympathy for the people who really suffered out there on the bridge. one other thing, there have been many references, we've already found, to concerns among public officials about the problems on
the bridge around the time of a jewish high holiday. a lot of concern about that as well. so, again, we haven't found what anybody would call a smoking gun, but we're really getting a fuller picture of the uproar over this test on the bridge, brooke, as well as how some of the officials responded to it. >> just to be crystal clear, just for people understanding, we know the federal government is now involved and they're doing this preliminary investigation. but what you and so many teams of folks in washington are going through, this is from state lawmakers. this is from within new jersey -- >> absolutely. >> correct, yes, okay. joe johns, thank you. as soon as more of the e-mails, the conversations come out, we'll get it on air, on cnn. joe, thank you very much. in washington. coming up next here, more possible trouble for chris christie because he is also facing a class action lawsuit in connection with this bridge closing scandal. this has been filed on behalf of drivers and business owners who want money for their
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are named now in this class action lawsuit. plaintiffs allege they were inconve convenienced by the massive traffic problems. with us now, cnn legal analyst sunny hostin and attorney noah klein. when you consider that people can be subpoenaed and people can be deposed in civil lawsuits, could civil action here be as big a threat to governor christie as possible criminal charges? >> well, okay, so first of all, i don't know that there's any threat to christie now, civil or criminal, because i haven't heard or seen any evidence of wrongdoing on his part. we heard your legal analyst look through 900 or so e-mails, so far we don't see any connection to him. >> there's this class action lawsuit filed. >> anybody can file a lawsuit if they have $400 and a law degree.
doesn't mean there's any merit to it. a class action would be difficult in a case like this where you have to prove everyone in the class suffered the same damages. we hear some stories that perhaps ambulances were delayed. those would of course be very serious cases. some people missed business meetings. other people were just inconvenienced, maybe their dinner got cold. so no class action can be brought on their behalf. someone who perhaps medical care was delayed and suffered physical daniel mage as a consequence, i don't see how anybody can file a lawsuit. it's an infuriating situation that the government would do this intentionally but i don't know that always translates into a meritorious lawsuit. >> let's keep in mind that christie said yesterday he was lied to by his staff about this, that he knew absolutely nothing about it. sunny hostin, let's talk about the criminal end of this. u.s. attorney for new jersey, he
has opened this preliminary inquiry. i want you to listen to alan dershowitz. constitutional attorney alan dershowitz, i asked him about this investigation out of new jersey, if it would likely be compromised because of governor christie. this is what he told me. >> it shouldn't be new jersey, it should be new york, but he has a history of taking revenge. that's why the prosecution should be in new york, where he has no power, no authority. >> reputation for revenge. do you agree with that, sunny hostin? >> you know, i know professor dershowitz, of course, and i think new jersey would be the appropriate office to investigate anything. i think we really need to -- >> new jersey you're saying? >> new jersey, yes. >> not new york? >> not new york. i think we should make it clear this is a very preliminary investigation, in my view, looking at the facts of this case, without knowing more, without discovering more, i think criminal charges are really remote and so, you know, i don't think that's going to happen. but getting back to the civil suit, which i have a copy of, i
think this is problematic for governor christie. >> why? >> because i think that when you look at this complaint, in particular, brooke, you see that some people suffered panic attacks. many people were late to work. many people were docked pay. i think there could be a class certified here. i think it passes the smell test. what is most problematic, it does open up the door to governor christie and others being deposed in a civil suit. and that does spell trouble. because what are they going to do? are they going to plead the fifth like we saw yesterday before the new jersey assembly? and so to sort of suggest this is a frivolous lawsuit i think is -- >> nolan is shaking his head. >> yeah, you know, to the first point, you know, with all due respect to professor dershowitz, who i have great respect for, there's a difference between the state attorneys and the federal authorities. right now, the u.s. attorney is doing an investigation. any charges to be brought would be brought in federal court, where the state authorities, in
particular, the governor, don't have authority? so that's really the reason why i believe it was referred to the federal authorities. as far as the civil suit, civil suit doesn't have to pass the smell test. it has to comply with the -- >> passes more than that. >> one of which is commonalty. we heard sunny say some people had panic attacks and this and that -- >> -- went without pay -- >> that's fine, there may be people who were docked pay and maybe individually can be brought suits. but to lump all of these people together plainly doesn't comply with the typicality component of any class action lawsuit. >> sunny hostin and know what klein, i hear you disagreeing, we have to see how it plays out civilly and possibly criminally. thank you very much. coming up, have you heard about this story? there's a safari club right here in the u.s. they're auctioning off this permit to hunt a black rhino in africa.
it is meant to save the rhinos who are endangered. cnn's ed lavandera live in dallas with more on this. the dallas safari club, they are getting death threats because of this action. >> reporter: they have been receiving death threats. all of that information has been turned over to the fbi office here in dallas. we're told by the fbi that they're looking into those threats as well. the story has really sparked a fascinating debate over efforts to save the black rhino in namibia, the country on the southern african continent. what's fascinating about all this is both sides are essentially arguing they're trying to do what is best for the black rhino. there are only about 5,000 left in the world today, about 1,700 of those are in namibia. the namibian government for the first time has given a group outside of its own country the ability to auction off one of these permits. this will be done tomorrow night. the dallas safari club is holding a convention here in dallas at the convention center, tomorrow night they will auction
off this permit from the namibian government. as you might imagine, it has sparked all sorts of debate. the safari club says they're doing this to save the animal. while wildlife conservation groups are saying this is a terrible idea. >> when you talk to the scientists involved, sometimes having to sacrifice an animal for the overall good of the herd and the species is what you're trying to do. >> i think it's a farce to say this is being done for conservation. i do agree there is sometimes a need to manage wildlife population, in small areas, but there are less than 5,000 individuals left of this species. instead of killing it, it could be moved to a different area, be used to bring in photo tourism or ecotourism, something that doesn't kill the animal. >> i think it's important to point out what the dallas safari club is saying is that the namibian government has identified two or three black rhinos that can be hunted, that there will be government
patrollers that go out with whoever wins this auction bid and will tell them essentially which black ryhino they can kil. they say it will be an old male, an old cranky male who they say is more and this is a rhino that will not be reproducing or participating anymore in the species there in namibia and that will be the kind of black rhino that is targeted. people have all sorts of questions. but in the long run it's fascinating because both sides are arguing that they are doing what is best for the black rhino. >> i'm sure people are scratching their heads and there's so much more to this story. we'll watch the full report on this rhino hunt controversy, this auction tonight, "outfront," tonight at 7:00 eastern. ed lavandera, thank you very much. a manhunt in pennsylvania for a gunman who shot and killed
a victim in a road rage incident. the victim may have been chased for more than 50 miles before he was gunned down. jean casarez has more. >> reporter: residents of this community are frightened as the shooter is still at large. law enforcement say it was a case of road rage. >> we obviously have an individual out there who was so incensed that he continued to pursue mr. davidson and took it to that next step. he murdered an individual for whatever slight that he perceived. >> our daughter travels the highway every day and you think it could have been her. it's hard to think things like that can happen in this small area. >> it's just scary. you're just driving along and all of a sudden, boom. >> reporter: it was 30 minutes away from this community on interstate 81 where davidson was
driven off the highway saturday morning and then shot at repeatedly driven by somebody in a black ford pickup. he called 911 several times saying that he was being chased by a vehicle and that to be on the lookout for a ford ranger with recent damage seeking repair. >> jean ka rar sacasarez, let m you in. >> this is really interesting. not obama is the damage on the shooter's pickup truck, it's on the driver's side and also they believe that when they hit the victim's silver suv and pushed it into the median, that silver paint got on that pickup truck. so people are also supposed to look out for silver paint. you know what else they said, brooke, that the owner or a
driver of a pickup truck like that, look to see somebody that has problems, that is unstable. if it you see that, they want you to call the pennsylvania state police because they want to get this driver off the roadway. >> okay. look for the markings, call the police. there are reports that the gunman could be involved in other shootings. have police responded to that? >> they did finally and there was another shooting out of a pickup truck in the neighboring community that we went to yesterday. they are finding that forensically speaking they are not related. that's good and bad because that means there's two shooters out there but the one on the interstate is the one that shot and killed timothy davidson. his funeral is set for tomorrow. this is a capital crime, brooke. and so they are looking for him. >> jean casarez, thank you. you remember the target security breach, names, addresses, phone numbers stolen from 40 million customers? well, check that number because target now says it is much higher. try 70 million people victimized. so we wanted to know, how did
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it is friday and new jobs numbers have taken a lot of people by surprise and not a good surprise kind of way. take a look with me. after a couple months of strong gains, the dow jones was treading water. 74,000 is the number of new jobs created. maybe cold weather was partly to blame? the unemployment rate fell to 6.7% but most of the drop is from people bailing out of the job market, gave up looking for work. but analysts say, don't panic. one month does not make a trend. and if you shop at target and, really, we all kind of do, heads up. hackers stole information on a whole lot more customers than originally thought. alison kosik is joining me. we thought that number was 40 million and now that number has almost doubled. >> right. target is saying it's much bigger. it includes 70 million people. >> wow. >> even worse, the hackers, this is what they got. they got a hold of more
sensitive information than the company said before. now target says even more information was stolen. things like names, street addresses, phone numbers. that's on top of the credit and debit card numbers that were stolen. target's business is feeling the business. sales fell between 2 and 6% after target announced the security breach. its profits will also suffer. >> okay. what do i do if i thought i was in the clear. if i wasn't part of the 40 million. i could be the additional 30. what do i do? >> the company is offering free credit monitoring for a year. you have three months to sign up for that and it's going to give more information next week. plus, customer is telling customers, look, you are not responsible for fraudulent charges. companies like chase are issuing new cards to customers automatically. but if you see anything suspicious, call and report it. and now after hearing that
e-mail addresses and phone numbers are in the hands of tackers, be extra careful. don't give out any extra information by phone or e-mail. thieves could be posing as target employees to get your information. just be real vigilant of what is going on. >> alison kosik, have a good weekend, my friend. let's talk football. nfl playoffs continue. if you're watching, you may see an earthquake. let me explain. the saints versus the seahawks. the last two times new orleans visited seattle, century link field was rocking. not just noisy but loud enough to register earthquakes. so now they have actually placed equipment to see if this happens again. you're looking at this. the pacific northwest seismic network has installed two portable seismometers. just think, there could be serious rumbling happenings in
seattle. let me just quickly, before i let you go, my twitter has blown up over the teacher interview. thank you so much for everything that you have said. we will make sure we put that on the blog. if you want to pass it along to your teacher friends or whomever else, go to cnn.com/brooke. i'm brooke baldwin. "the lead with jake tapper" starts now. water, water everywhere and not a drop safe to drink. don't shower in it, don't even wash a dish in it. your honor itting water into poison for hundreds and thousands of americans. are you one of them? could you be next time? the politics lead. she's been the subject of a thousand thrown under the bus jokes since chris christie canned her yesterday in her apparent role of creating a giant traffic starl. but just who is