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brooke? >> on cue, the closing bell. alison kosik, thank you so much, in new york. that does it for me. i'm brooke baldwin in atlanta. if you missed anything go to the brooke blog. now, jake tapper starts right now with "the lead." >> i'm no jacques cousteau but wouldn't two robo subs be better than one? that mission? i'm jake tapper, this "the lead." the world lead, the tool moving forward to search for the missing plane, that bluefin-21, and it's back in the deep this hour. every other time it's gone down this week, it's come back, way too early. is this the best method? new questions why the co-pilot's cell phone was on after the plane made its wild left turn. was it on the whole time? did it show up anywhere else? was he trying to call someone? also, in world news, heard about those widespread attacks on ethnic russians in ukraine? they're a complete invention, according to the united nations.
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new report says while russia may claim its war machine isn't in motion the propaganda war machine definitely is. good afternoon, i'm jake tapper. welcome to "the lead." the world lead. a very rough, scaled down way of looking at the task before the bluefin-21. imagine, if you would, if new york central park was under water and it was pitch black, and you had to search every bit of it, 2 1/2 miles long, a half mile wide, and all you had was a single mag light, that is the challenge before the searchers, as they use the u.s. navy's unmanned robotic mini sub to search for flight 370, which disappeared 41 days ago now, with 239 people on board. the bluefin-21 is on its third mission, the map of the search area, miles under water, after technical issues forced the first two missions to end early. last dive cut short when the oil that protects the bluefin's
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electronics ran low. in fact, technical issues abound all across the board in this investigation, from the deep of the indian ocean to the briefing rooms of beijing where, as our rene marsh reports, passengers' families had another meltdown at officials whom they believe are concealing the truth. >> you're all bloody liars and lying to us again now. >> reporter: families explode in anger and storm out of a briefing in beijing, after technical glitches prevented a promised video conference with malaysian officials. >> translator: we will request the team of experts to come to beijing to conduct face-to-face communications and fulfill their commitment. what is truth? what problem do they want to cover up? >> reporter: families, still waiting for answers to a laundry list of technical questions they sent to malaysian authorities earlier this week, did malaysia airlines have regular
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maintenance checks for the emergency locator transmitters? disrupt apparent in their demands for a copy of flight 370's log book and the raw au o audiotapes from air traffic control. >> the families should have access to all of that kind of information. >> reporter: meanwhile, the search in the indian ocean remains stop and go, with the second setback in as many days for the bluefin-21. the underwater robot's 24-hour mission cut to about 11 hours, after an oil, used to protect its electronic components from saltwater, ran low. data collected, again, showed no sign of flight 370. mission three is now under way. the stop and go process is frustrating, but not unusual. >> it may happen once or twice more. in the 447 we had a lot of aborted runs from the robots, but you learn. >> reporter: three after ocean shield discovered an oil slick, a two liter sample arrived in
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perth for testing. the safety board has custody of the sample. but still, no time line on when the results will come in. >> would the oil have survived thus far? temperatures are cold, so it depends how warm the temperatures are and how strong the winds are for how long the oil takes to either evaporate or emulsify and sink to the bottom. >> reporter: i went over all of the families' questions line by line with former ntsb board member and he say there's are only two questions investigators would have reservations about, giving out personal phone numbers of members who are part of the investigation and the families also asked for flight 370's log book. that's usually, he says, on board the plane. obviously they haven't located the plane as of yet. even if they did have the log book, he says they wouldn't hand it over. they would only share in general terms relevant information. jake? >> rene marsh, thanks. we'll talk about the families' concerns in a couple of minutes.
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let's turn to the search, after its second aborted mission, u.s. search officials said the underwater drone search for flight 370 could take months. so, why isn't there an entire fleet of bluefins to cover the search area? tom foreman in our virtual studio to answer that question for us. >> jake, when you think about what happened on top of the water, that's exactly what we had, dozens of planes, dozens of ships looking everywhere. so why can't you do that below the water? why can't you go down there and put in not one or two but maybe a dozen or 20 different bluefins going through all at one time? think about it. right now, with just one down there, it's basically having to mow the lawn, as they describe it. that means a piece at a time, it's got to go back and forth, just like we're showing here. even if everything goes right, it's going to take six weeks to two months to get it done. so, why not kick in with more? bring in more here and have them all work together to get the job done much more quickly.
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several reasons. first of all, availability. these are highly specialized machines. ones down there now cost $3.5 million. only about 100 of these in the world. you have to have the cooperation of a lot of private companies, research organizations and governments to hand them over, even if you wanted to do this in the first place. secondly, there is support, each one of these weighs about 1700 pounds. getting it off the deck of a ship into the water is a difficult and dangerous task. it's not unlike taking a small automobile and lifting it by crane and putting it into the ocean and pulling it out, on top of which you have to have the whole crew up here. people who understand how to program it maintain it, get the data off of it, load it, unload it, and have that on every ship that you need up to here to support a fleet of 10 or 20 of these, jake. those are some of the beginning logistical problems. >> tom, if they could, theoretically, round up enough of the bluefins and similar
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devices, and they could launch them all at once, would that work? >> they have done it before in shallower water. they've had some of them work in concert with each other. they've never tried it in deep water like this. and there's a huge question about what is below that water. take a look. we're not talking about a billiard table. talking about something that may be more convoluted, something that may involve all sorts of hills and valleys. it could be very, very complicated. >> tom our foreman, thanks. our panel of experts. senior manager of met tron, scientific solutions and retired oceanographer and specialist rob mccallum. it seems the use of the technology has completely changed the pace of this investigation. >> that's correct. you know, whenever you're using auvs, because there's a daily cycle of launch ascend, search
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ascend, recovery you don't know what you found that day until you do the download. so it's a cyclical pattern. you're using deep towed sonar, you have real-time data coming up. for those that have active interest in the mh370 it's a frustrating time because we've got to wait to the end of the mission. >> frustrating pace and because of the technical issues that we've seen with the bluefin going down and coming up earlier than expected. it's happened now twice. does that surprise you at all? >> it doesn't, jake. we're using really extreme technology in a really extreme environment. one of the things that people forget, not only the pressure at the bottom, but it's a fact that that bluefin's got to operate completely on its own. no real-time data link with the wide band width. if anything goes wrong, it's smart enough to say, maybe it's time to go back to the surface before something catastrophic
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happens. it's the fact they're having glitches, they're able to fix them quickly on the deck and get them back into the water. that's a promising sign. >> i want to get you both to respond to this interesting quote i read earlier. a wreckage expert, not connected to the search, told the australian media, quote, i think essentially they have found the wreckage site, four very, very good detections with the right spectrum of noise and it can't be from anything else. >> basically, yes. i've said so on several previous shows, the two hour 15 minute episode, first event last saturday was very compelling. that is a man-made signal and there's only a handful of things it could, given how everything lines up, i'm confident that's the pinger they heard. it generates a small area for them to search, and i think they're on it. but it's just unfortunately going to take a lot of time and
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patience because of the pace these things move at now. >> rob what do you think? >> i agree. i think the first two pinger locator -- locations, the most promising. the other two, not so much. i think that the key sign that you're seeing in the level of confidence and search controllers or from the search controllers the fact they're using a tactical auv, honed down to a small area, high resolution imagery and a very specific place. >> talk about what they're using. yesterday i spoke with the deputy director for diving for the u.s. navy, and i asked why other underwater search tools have not been brought in to assist the bluefin-21. >> that's up to the planners. as i said, when we finish from tpl, and bluefin was brought in really as a tool to do a tactical inspection to confirm what we found and triangulated to, as we move out of the sprint mode, we're going to get in into
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a marathon pace, it's going to be long, slower and there may be a much different equipment set that's brought in. >> mike deane, adiplomatic man, rob. suggesting, australia, we've got tools, ask us and we'll bring them to you. what do you think? >> i think if it goes beyond this phase, i think if these potential pinger locations pan out to be inaccurate or nonexistent, then the next phase is more broad scale search along the southern end of the original calculated aircraft track. so that would mean using one, two or more towed sonar assets following along the flight path and mowing a much bigger slice of the zblaun vlawn. >> i want to ask about the garbage patch in the ocean. is that hindering the search.
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>> a lot of time when you use auvs you find a lot of garbage on the ocean bottom, things tossed overboards, barrels, cars, it's amazing -- >> cars? >> yes. each one of these things requires you to put the camera on it. >> sure. >> to make sure it's not what you're looking for. they're so far out in an area that's not trafficked that much in the indian ocean, that i don't expect there to be a lot of these sort of false positives on the ocean bottom. while there's a garbage patch, if they start picking up man-made objects it's most likely this. >> so far away from where mankind destroys the earth, it shouldn't affect the search to much, theoretically. distraught family members confront officials. why the daily briefings are more like cross-examinations next. two soldiers have been taken hostage in ukraine and six armored vehicles are now under russian control. but are russian people being
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welcome back to "the lead." more on our world lead. we showed you earlier how some families of flight 370 passengers were lashing out at malaysian officials today. one point, calling them, quote, bloody liars. it seems lack of information and ever changing details have led to suspicions about how the investigation's being handled and what authorities actually know. >> translator: we'll request the team of experts to come to beijing to conduct face-to-face communications and fulfill their commitment. if they don't come, lie go to malaysia again, ask the prime minister, is it truly so easy to break your promise? what is the truth? what problem do they want to
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cover up? >> cnn's senior international correspondent nic robertson joins us live with more. what is it that the families exactly want from malaysian authorities? >> reporter: they want a lot. as time's gone on, they want even more. specifically, they have a list of 26 different questions, some of them very detailed. the emergency locator transmitterer, the elt on the aircraft, they want to know how many there were, whether the flight crew trained in the use, some designed to hop off the aircraft and flow to the surface if it hits water. they want to know the frequencies they operated at. they want to know whether these were -- had some mechanical structure around them to protect them. so there's a lot of details, seven different questions on those elts, emergency locator transmitters. they want the serial number from the black box, they want to know precisely what data to expect from the black box, they want
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the log books, they want the captain's daily contact phone number. a very expensive list of questions. the details of which, clearly designed to give them a greater understanding of precisely what they may find out in the future, when the black boxes are recovered. but also to give them a much better sense of how there might be a possibility that their loved ones might still be alive, might be tracked by the locator transmitters. these are details that, in some way, will help them bear and understand why they still don't have information about their loved ones. of course, we know they're aware of the pensioners, they're a -- pingers and the search mission but many cling to that hope. loved ones are still alive. these questions seem driven towards just more fully appreciating every detail that could have been missed or could be helpful in finding out where they might be, jake.
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>> thank you so much. this has become a curious subplot in this ever evolving mystery of malaysia airlines flight 370. why did only the co-pilot's cell phone try to connect with the tower? did that a mean he was trying to make a call? investigators are not saying much. we have learned there's renewed focus on whether the cell signal was detected anywhere else. pamela brown brought us the tory earlier in the week. >> bottom line here, there are a lot of more unknowns than knowns at this point. questions are mounting. we've been speaking with experts, trying to figure out what it means the co-pilot's cell phone connected with the cell tower, this is according to the data from malaysia investigators are. it's very odd his cell phone would have only made contact with one cell tower. they say if it connected with that one tower, it should have connected with other nearby
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towers as well. another question we're trying to get answered here, was the phone turned on in the beginning of night or connecting with that tower? of course if that happened if it dinged that tower right before, a half hour after the plane's communication systems mysteriously shut off that of course would raise more questions about what was going on in the cockpit. experts also telling us, a plane has to be flying at only a few thousand feet, about 10,000 feet at most, for a phone to be able to connect with the tower and that's below cruising altitude. right now officials saying there's no indication, jake, a phone call was made by the pilot or the co-pilot. they've been looking through phone records, as we've been talking about. i want to put this into perspective. this is one tiny piece of a much larger, you know, puzzle. so it's hard to really make sense of what this could mean without more information. and we're only privy to so much information because this is
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malaysian's investigation and they're choosing what to share. >> is it definitively a cell phone or some other device like an ipad? >> sources i have been speaking with believe it's a cell phone because the companies did k. decipher whether an ipad or cell phone. also something else they're looking at, whether other passengers' cell phones pinged the tower. if the phones were on and not on airplane mode, other passengers' phones should have pinged, not just the pilot's. that's a big question we're looking to answer. sources say the only information we shared with them it was a co-pilot's but it doesn't rule out other possibilities. >> fascinating. pamela brown, thank you. pitch black and freezing cold. students on a capsized ferry are share their stories of survival as rescuers race to find more before it's too late. but why were some students told to stay put while the boat sank?
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. in other world news, another desperate search going on right now in bone chilling water with unpredictable currents for close to 300 people, most of them teenagers after a ferry sanction off of south korea's coast. the ship departed on the 102nd anniversary of the "titanic" with 459 people on board. at least six people are confirmed dead and dozens injured. supposed to be a class trip to a resort island considered something of the hawaii of korea. instead, hearing survivors telling stories of confusion and horror on board and overboard.
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>> the water came up to my face. i think it was a narrow escape from dying. >> translator: supposed to be still, jump on, but the boat could not be next to the ship they said jump and swim over, so i quickly jumped and swam over. >> translator: we were told, stay where you are, so we kept staying but later on, the water level came up, so we were beside ourselves. kids were screaming out of the terror, shouting for help. >> our paula hancocks joins us live from south korea. horrifying story. even worse, we are now being told by passengers they were told to stay put on a sinking ship? >> reporter: jake, this is going to be very much in focus with this investigation. what exactly were the crew thinking when they said, you should stay put, you should not move. there is a possibility that this ship just sank a lot quicker than they had expected.
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they had underestimated the danger, clearly, that these people were in. we did see that those that did manage to jump into the water were picked out and were taken into waiting boats. a lot of navy boats, a lot of fishing boats, private boats, any vessels around were there to try to save people. but as we know, there are almost 300 people still unaccounted for and the assumption is many of them could still be within the ship. so, we are hearing, for one particular man talking about what he thought when he was told not to move. >> translator: stay put, as it's dangerous. kept announcing it ten times, so kids were forced to stay put. only some of those who moved survived. >> reporter: so the rescue operations we understand started in the early hours of the thursday morning, and they were delayed for a few hours. according to the coast guard, what they've told cnn, they have
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not made it clear why that is the case but we know there are boats on site, we know there are divers as well. the yonhap news agency reported divers managed to get into three compartments of the ship but did not find survivors or any bodies. >> paula hancocks, thank you. in other world news, all about eight of the 129 school girls abducted by extremists in nigeria are free. members of the boko haram group, seen here in a training video, kidnapped the girls from their school in the middle of the night monthed. witnesses say attackers got into a firefight with soldiers guarding the school, and forced the girls into buss and vans, and took off with them. the military has been sweeping through the wood for them. a military official says one of the kidnappers has been captured, boko haram is notorious for attacking schools, loosely translated name means western education is sin.
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a geopolitical carjacking of sort. the ukrainian government sent six armored vehicles into a border town to knock back protesters. the same vehicles showed up in another city, flying russian flags. we still do not know what happened to the soldiers inside but it's a sign -- one more sign that pro-russian militants are tightening their grip on eastern ukraine. our nick paton walsh watching the chaos unfold from donetsk. that's an embarrassing turnover
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with the armored vehicles. who's winning the standoff so far? >> reporter: certainly pro-russian protester militants having momentum behind them. a shoddy day for the ukrainian army. an armored column ran into local residents who slowed them and pro-russian militants took it over, drove in with russian flag and the flag of the paratroop unit, where they paraded them around, local had picture taken next to them. well-equipped, disciplined militants running the show and relaxed enough to let foreign media like us to film what's going on. not far from there, too, another armored column moving toward the airfield where other troops have landed recently, they ran into a villa village, seemed they shot in the air, when residents weren't near them, also ran into a car damaging that, too. locals came out and surrounded it, entirely marooning them.
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couldn't go anywhere at all. negotiations with local police chief and afghan war veteran, even representative of the pro-russian militia turned into a solution where they agreed to give up, you won't believe this, the firing pins of small arms and armored vehicles in exchange for being allow to leave the way in which they came in. two counts there, disastrous day in terms of the ukrainian armored presence trying to establish authority. the last group i talked about, supposed to be elite paratroopers. atrocious all around. >> the shot we set up looks calm, like you're almost in prague. state department is issuing a travel warning for u.s. citizens telling them to defer all nonessential travel to ukraine. are people there, where you are, concerned that they are on the edge of a war? >> reporter: i think there's concern if things get out of hand here, russians, who still
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have 40,000 troops at a high state of readiness, may intervene if it gets out of hand. these are moving extraordinarily fast and one step away from lives being lost, a few cases of that so far. certainly in prague, jake, you're not going to find the level of anti-american sentiment you do see here. a lot of misinformation fed by pro-russian media out here, pro-russian individuals, which means a lot of hostility toward the west and the government in ki kiev. the problem is we see towns fall by one, everybody's waiting for the ukrainian government to step in. they seem to have been completely unable to do that in the fast few days. will that last? will they muscle firepower to do something of use here, or the manpower? we don't really know. it looks like talks tomorrow come in gone neev va between the u.s., eu, ukraine, looking for some political solution. moving so fast on the ground, you have to wonder if anyone will listen here.
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>> thank you, stay safe. talk about the misinformation. if there's one thing communists excelled beyond murderings mills of their own people, it propaganda. the soviet turn indoctrination into an art form. now, from crimea to the tense stand-off in eastern ukraine, it's clear moscow is taking a page from the old masters and bringing this fight to the airwaves. let's bring in the director of russian studies at american enterprise institute. thanks for being here. look at one glaring example from forbes.com. three different russian tv channels reportedly aired three different interviews with this guy, identified in all of them as andre petkov, shown lying wounded in a hospital. one interview he's a german spy, another exclusive a repentant extremist, beaten to a pulp, another one he's a pediatric surgeon attacked by neo-nazi
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extremis extremists. explain how this propaganda's being used in the stand-off. >> he kind of encapsulates the overall story, because from the moment putin started the crimean escapade the story was, the government is neo-nazi fascist government supported by the u.s. in the west, by the way, also supported by arms, and putin used a term which they apply to the muslim terrorists in chechnya. and the third is that they're all -- it's all against russia, it's all against the russian-speaking population of the ukraine. we see -- we see incarnations here. he's a german spy, something to that effect, he's a pediatric surgeon, attacked by neo-nazis, he could have been an ethnic russian attacked by ukrainian nazis. this is all there. i tell you, i was there in 1968, a teenager in moscow, and i
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don't recall the level of propaganda reaching this amount of frenzy and brazenness and hysteria. for example, no used, you know, a term for forced sexual intercourse to describe u.s. policy, putin did on march 18th. >> obviously, every country uses propaganda. the united states government uses propaganda. what's the difference between what our government does or has done historically and what putin's government is do? is it working, do you think? >> the basic difference is the u.s. government, i remember i used to do a show in russia for the voice of america, you know that the voice of america is not allowed to broadcast in the united states? because it was considered by congress too dangerous and it was licensed only to do it outside. well, flip it around. there are no television channels from where russians take 95% of its news, no television channels that are either not directly owned by the government or
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sensored by the government, no criticism of putin allowed, no critic of the regime is allowed. that's the basic difference. >> people in russia know that. it's still working? still effective? >> it's still effective, because -- especially with the older generation. putin uses certain kind of overarching themes, you know? the west is against us, nato is now almost always used in conjunction with nazis, that appeals to the historic memory. >> that's resonant. >> very resonant. there are 20 million. it's very resonant. and the -- to the extent the younger people or the intelligence want to check it on the internet, he does not care. two-thirds of russians, by the latest poll, believe is his base, he doesn't care what you think, u.s. thinks, it may seem ridiculous, he doesn't care. >> quickly, putin's an old kgb agent, fond of appearing in his
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own propaganda as a bare-chested tiger-hunting bad boy, hunting, playing hockey. we laugh at it in this country. does it work over there. >> it doesn't matter if you laugh. putin doesn't care. he cares about his political base. and the idea is here's our guy, he's strong, he's macho, knows how to do things. and he is the image of a new russia. mussolini liked to show his muscles as well. >> interesting. leon aron, thank you. wolf blitzer here with a prevuf "the situation room." you have breaking news in your show. the video surfacing of a high-level al qaeda meeting in yemen. what more do we know? >> barbara starr broke that story yesterday in "the situation room." it's amazing video. these are 100 al qaeda terrorists, training, including the number two al qaeda leader, all out there, high definition video. this is good quality video,
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posted on youtube. the question, did the u.s. intelligence community really know about this? if they did know about it, why weren't drones sent to strike some terrorists which the obama administration does a lot of the drone assassinations and suspected terrorists whether in yemen or elsewhere. barbara's got more. peter bergen will be joining us, he's got strong thoughts on what's going on now. the video, you've seen it, very dramatic. >> it's not al qaeda on the run. >> no. >> wolf blitzer, thank you so much. we'll watch "the situation room" next. >> coming up, a college dropout, living in his mom's basement and a dotcom billionaire, one of twitter's co-founders, biz stone, what the social media app is worth. in world, the hopes of flying flight 370 hang on one robot. things have not been going smoothly for the robot. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. the money lead now.
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#chaching. the stock soared by 10%, the biggest leap since its rough ipo in november. investors are now crowing over twitter's acquisition of the data partner which analyzes the more than 500 million tweets that users fire off each day. and shares that data with advertisers and other companies hungry for all of that information. the price jump united states more impressive when you consider the fact that 44% of twitter accounts have never sent out a single tweet. i had the chance to ask biz stone, one of the company's founders, about twitter's immediate orric rise, which he writes about in "things a little bird told me, confession of the creative mind." >> a great anecdote in the book you, meet with mark zuckerberg, when you were at twitter, and he wants to know what kind of money you want to sell twitter to facebook, to him. >> yep. >> and you just made up --
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>> made up a number on the way there. >> $500 million. >> on the way there. we had a quick chat with evan william, my co-founder at twitter and we were going down there, i was wondering why we were going down there. he was wondering that, too. but we agreed to go down there. >> mark zuckerberg wants to meet you. >> we know what it's going to be about. what if it come up? do we want to sell the company? and we didn't. and so, i thought, well, what's an easy way out? just -- what's -- just come up with a ridiculous number no one would agree to. honestly the biggest number i could imagine in my head was $500 million. we had a great laugh about that. we were -- we couldn't breathe we are were laughing so hard. who would pay that money? the offer came through. we had to be polite and, you know, say thank you so much, but we want to take this company all the way, build a company of enduring value. >> what's it worth now, twitter?
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>> it's north of $25 billion, i think. >> i mean, $500 million, when you look at some of the other companies, yahoo! bought tumbler for $1.1 billion. ebay pout paypal for $1.5 billion. >> the biggest number i could think of, it was huge. i mean i grew up with nothing. that's crazy. >> in the book you write about, it's your last day at twitter, you're upset to learn that twitter's doing a town hall meeting with president obama and jack dorsey is moderating it it, that bothered you. you wanted twitter to be government neutral, why was that important to you? >> i spent five years working there. i have this general fiphilosoph that it's really all about people, not technology. you know, i believe in the triumph of humanity with a little help from technology. whenever things happen around the world and twitter gets mentioned along with it i always try to make sure that the look,
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it's people that are doing this stuff. when the ber wilin wall came do at&t wasn't saying they used phones, phoned helped. i said, look, it's about the people and they'll use whatever they use. let's not use this -- any of this stuff as like an ad. >> that's not entirely genuine. you're proud of the fact that twitter is part of the revolutions out there, part of empowerment of the people. >> yeah, i'm certainly an advocate for the power that free speech gives everyone, especially when you lower the barrier to it so extremely low. getting back to the question, we spent just a lot of effort trying to -- trying to stay neutral and trying to -- invited multiple times to do like these very, you know, impressive things that are very -- like big compliments. so, yeah, i got upset when it turned out that we're going to be sort of visually linked.
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the company worked really hard to try to not do that. they explain to me later this happened and that happened. at the time, it didn't matter because i was upset. >> new app is jelly. we used it on the state of the union night. explain why you're passionate about it. >> my co-founder and i realized that in over 15 years, no one has completely reimagined the way that we get answers to our inquiry, completely reimagine it. we're living in a different time. everything is mobile, everybody's connected on social networks. jelly uses photos, maps and people in all of your social networks to route queries to people who know what they're talking about and can answer anything. it works better than computers in some cases because, you know, you can't just show a computer a leaf and ask what tree it's from but you certainly can take a
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picture. >> biz stone, thank you so much. appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me, jake. >> when we come back, as the days go by in the search of missing flight 370, is enough being done? some countries are saying they have more resources available but nobody's asking. that's next.
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welcome back to "the lead." back to our continuing coverage of the search for missing malaysia airlines flight 370. it's not the final frontier but in many way we know much less about the ocean floor than we do about space. and mapping the bottom of the sea's a slow and painstaking process. it's part of the reason why finding the possible wreckage from flight 370 has proven so difficult. so why is the australian team heading the efforts only using one single robot? the u.s. and japan are offering up underwater vehicles like the bluefin to aid in the search but the aussies have yet to ask for those. will riply is in perth australia
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with the latest. >> reporter: very same questions you're asking the united states, we are asking here in perth, australia. why is the bluefin-21 left alone to handle this massive task of mapping out a section of the indian ocean, the size of chicago, when there are other assets available in the area? we know the bluefin has run into trouble, dive one cut short after about eight hours because the water was too deep. dive number two cut short because of a technical glitch that had to be fixed. that dive lasted 11 hours. dive number three, under way right now, as far as we know, this would be the first full dive completed. we know there are more challenges that could lie ahead, as winter weather moves in, making it difficult to launch the bluefin with conditions expected to worsen in that area. so, with the united states and japan, both saying they have assets that might be better suited to a task like this, standing by, ready to be deployed, the australian government has not asked to bring that help in yet, we reached out to the joint agency
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coordination center and asked, why aren't any more assets brought in to assist with the search? still waiting to have that question answered but we'll stay on it. >> thanks. that it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to wolf blitzer right next door in "the situation room." >> thanks very much. happening now, breaking news we're following, the search setbacks, back-to-back glitches, plaguing the unmanned sub, seen as the best hope of finding flight 370. why isn't better equipment being deployed? ferry disaster, a boat rolls over chilly waters forcing some passengers to jump for their lives. the death toll is climbing lp rescuers be able to find dozens of missing people? face-off, pro-russian militants seizing tanks from ukrainian forces as putin issues a dire warning. is ukraine on the brink of civil war. massive terrorist meet, disturbing video