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landed safely and now are being interviewed by the authorities, erin? >> anna, thank you very much, we appreciate it. and we'll continue to cover the story because again we don't know what the security threat was. obviously, something that merited it going to a special location and the fbi interviewing the other passengers on board. this and other breaking news continues with anderson. good evening, everybody, 8:00 p.m. in new york, 9:00 a.m. in south korea, and the sunken ferry and criminal charges against the captain who abandoned ship. also, more information on the tracks of the flight 370, and the equipment that apparently failed to work. and later, avalanche on everest. a wall of snow buries 12 mountain guides, and there are rescue efforts on the way. but tonight we begin with south korea, where divers are doing some of the most dangerous
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work of their professional lives, slowly making their way in and around a sunken ferry, looking for survivors. more than 270 people, many of them high school students on a field trip did not make it off the vessel. and looking at this vessel as it sank it is not hard to see why. passengers, as you know, were initial initially told to stay where they were. and somehow, the ship's captain was among the first to leave. it is all making for a nightmarish day for loved ones on shore, and anguish as they wait for their missing loved ones. kyung lah has more. >> reporter: yes, the coast guard is saying that they have laid down those search lines. they're like physical rope that they put on the ferry itself, the sunken ferry where they can go room by room. they have not entered this ferry at this point, anderson, and from what we have been able to understand, anderson, they have
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been looking inside it. and they see things floating but will not be able to see beyond that. so there is more news. we're expecting to learn much more has the hours pass, on what is now the beginning of the fourth day of this hunt. >> and are families still waiting in the port area? i understand there are counselors on site. >> reporter: there are counselors on site. and what they're here for, the people you see over my shoulder, you can see the families just looking out at sea. and they can't see the ferry. they can't see the search operation. what they are hoping for, though, is some news trickling in to give them some sort of hope. ferry captain lee joon seok answering hundreds of questions of desperate relatives. why would you order passengers to stay on the sinking ship? the current was very high and the water temperature was cold and if you had not worn a life
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jacket or even if you had worn one, if you got off the boat with no judgment you would have been swept very far away, he says. the captain is handcuffed. arrested today on five different charges, including abandoning ship and causing bodily injury including death. in this new lee releasly releas you can see the captain after he was rescued off of his own sinking ship, and left behind the lives of many, in the eyes of the public eye he is enemy number one. charges that he was not on the boat when it sank, they still hold him responsible for failing to slow down and making the turn excessively. also released today, radio traffic between the sewol ferry and authorities. the first sign of distress came in at 8:00 a.m. local time.
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now all that remains of the ferry above the surface are buoys marking its position. new footage from inside the doomed ferry continues to surface. and in this survivor's video, the ship is already at an extreme angle as passengers run to high ground, others brace themselves inside as they were instructed by the crew. it is unclear if these people made it out alive. one man who did make it out alive couldn't bear the reality in the end. in a wooded area near where distraught relatives are camped out in jindo, police say the vice principal of the school where the children attended, in a suicide note, police say he took responsibility for the lives, and asked for his ashes to be placed by the site. i want to jump into the sea, she
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says, thinking about my child in the sea, how can i as a parent eat or drink? i hate myself for this. >> now, the captain said he had a reason for ordering people to stay put. i mean, it is hard for some viewers to understand why so many passengers listened to that as the ship sank, can you explain? >> reporter: yeah, it is very difficult, especially those of us in western nations to understand how anyone can abide by an order, sit in a room as it is beginning to fill with water or even sit as the ship is tilting. the reason why here in korea is this is a very unique culture, a very -- typical of asian cultures but especially strong in korea. what they prize is obedience, listening to your elders. and remember, we're talking about high school students on a field trip. there were hundreds of them. and they were told over a loud speaker by an adult to stay put. so it is a cultural norm to
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listen to that. that is why those students stayed. and that is why it is especially distressing to these parents who have really raised their children to listen to the elder s. >> all right, kyung lah, appreciate the update. and the commanding officer of the uss bonhomme, what is the latest, captain, you can tell us about the u.s. involvement in the search and rescue efforts? i know your vessel has been involved and the navy salvage ship is also moving towards the area. >> well, good morning, thank you, mr. cooper. i would like to say our thoughts and prayers on the bonhomme remain with the passengers of the ferry and their families. today the weather is much better here, it is clear, with easterly winds about 25 knots. also clear with seven miles visibility. so today looks to be a day that we can continue to help.
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so far the bonhomme has helped with missions, we're flying ospreys and are 350 degrees, five miles out from the site. >> and are you still with us? >> yes. >> okay, sorry, what are you being told by south koreans about whether there could be people still alive inside the ship? is that still an operating assumption as far as you know? >> well, we are still engaged in search and rescue operations with our korean partners. the koreans are to lead. we made our best speed possible to get here as quickly as we could and join the effort. and we remain committed to help them any way we can. we exercise about 25 times a year with the korean navy and we have a very strong working relationship with them. we believe this whole effort is really about friends helping friends.
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and the bonhomme is there to help them in any way we can. >> at this point you can no longer see the ship at 58 on -- at all on the surface of the water. there are just buoys? >> that is correct, the ship is completely submerged. >> and i know you say you're looking for anything on the surface. are you seeing debris on the surface? >> yes, sir, our missions that have gone out have seen some debris. and we saw that yesterday. we have three scheduled missions today that will be taking off here, the first one, in about an hour to go back and help with the effort. the south koreans have a tremendous effort on station right now. the coast guard, navy, air force, they worked throughout the night. they're working tirelessly, the south korean navy, and civilian divers. they used paraflares dropped on scene to do as much as they can
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to help with the survivors. >> well, i appreciate you being here talking with us tonight, captain, thank you very much. digging deeper with the cargo ship captain and maritime safety officer james staples, retired u.s. navy diver. bobby scully, let me start with you, how realistic do you think there could still be people inside the ship that are still alive? >> captain, can you hear me? apparently not. excuse me, bobby, can you hear me? apparently probably having problems with that. we also want to talk about the conditions for the divers who are undertaking the search and what kind of precautions they have to look at. for -- bobby, are you there?
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>> i am now. >> what are the conditions like for the divers in the water? >> this is the hardest diving and salvage job you could possibly imagine. the current is just ripping through there. these divers have to enter this hull of a moving ship that is under water. and they are diving in a surface supplied diving rig, which is a helmet -- and the air supply is being delivered to the divers through a hose that goes to the helmet. and they have to drag that hose behind them as they're trying to enter the ship and go through and search all of those spaces for the survivors. so they are being encumbered by that hose that also includes the communication, the light, the air that they're breathing. and that slows them down.
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they also have to worry about that hose being either cut by any of the sharp metal inside that ship or being pinched, which would have their air supply. it is dark in there. at the same time, they're trying to rush through to find those survivors because they know that time is of the essence. they have a limited amount of time for each dive. so it is just the hardest dive that they could possibly be making. >> do they use those air hoses to be able to stay down longer than they would if they just had a tank of air? and i guess a tank of air would be hard in narrow spaces. >> well, they are actually wear ing an emergency tank of air on their back. that is part of that rig. but it is in the u.s. navy and probably in the korean navy, as well, it is protocol that when you are going inside a closed space like inside this ship, you
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must have an outside air source. and that is why they have to use these particular rigs to have the air source coming from the diving ship through that hose. >> got it. >> and then -- the hard hat. >> and captain staples, we know that the captain of the ferry has been arrested. prosecutors are quoted by the south korean news agency as saying that the captain failed to slow down while sailing the narrow route and making the turn excessively. is that in line with what you think could have happened to the ship? and does it make sense that the captain even though he was not on the bridge at the time would be the one bearing the responsibility? >> well, absolutely it will be his responsibility to bear, he is captain of the ship as long as he is on the ship. if he had negative stability by the time he was getting down to his port of arrival because of fuel burnoff or whatever, then turning the ship sharply would cause a large inclination of the
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ship. and the large shift of cargo which changes the center of gravity, which has a great deal to do with the stability. and that could be the number one cause here. we still don't know the route he was traveling if he was inside or outside the traffic lanes. there are still variables to investigate where he actually was when this happened. what his speed was, and of course, why he was not on the bridge. and one of the reasons was he left the port late the night before due to fog. he might have been late due to fog, and early in the morning he might have gone down to get some rest, we just don't know what he was doing at the time. >> and this was important to point out, the boat had only life rafts as opposed to boats. >> we hear there were only two life boats deployed.
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but we don't believe there were any life boats at all, but rather life rafts. and the distinction was you would have had them available. what you have are containers that would have been manually released. if the vessel was stable, the life rafts would have had to go in the water in order to deploy. the passengers would have had to make their way down a gang way to get into the water or jump to get into the life rafts. given the temperature of the water, of course, that would have been a serious issue in and of itself. but the fact is the captain didn't call for an evacuation until the vessel was already listing which made it impossible for the crew to go and release the life rafts into the ocean. and which is part of the reason that we only saw two of them deployed. >> so in terms of trying to
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prevent something like this happening, that is something the south korean authorities will be looking at. >> i think so if you look at similar ferries out of the baltic, the ships have a similar size, they have an array of life boats and preservers, life rafts that are available in the event of emergency. that was not available to the passengers on the sewol. >> jim staples, bobby peterson, we appreciate you being here. just ahead, a former navy s.e.a.l. takes us inside the rescue effort step by dangerous step, showing us what it is like. also, we'll go to paula hancock who has an update on what the divers are doing. and later, what chances they have of finding fliefrs. flight 370
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tonight, breaking news, the search for the missing students on the ferry that went down. paula hancock is on a boat close by to the sunken ferry. what have you seen? what are conditions like, paula? >> reporter: well, anderson, you wouldn't know that a 300 ton vessel just went down in the sea, unless you see the markings. no part of the ship is above the surface. this is a huge search operation, just a rough guess when we got here, i counted about 120 that range from the large ships from the navy. and also the dinghys for the divers. it is not just an official search operation. you have a lot of fishing vessels joining in the search.
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now you we can see a number of dingys filled with divers. obviously, what is happening on top of the water is not as significant as what is happening underneath. the divers right now are underneath us trying to get inside parts of the submerged ship. that is the crucial point for them at this point to try to find out if there are any survivors. or if not to try to start the grim task of recovering some of the bodies that are below the water. and about maybe 500 yards away from the spot where this submerged ship is are two cranes. they're not being used at this point. on the other side i can see another two cranes. these are not part of the system, when they become part of the search this search changes dramatically. they could be moving the ship. but at this point it is very much search and rescue still, with a couple of helicopters in the air keeping an eye on the situation. so it is a heightened search
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situation. >> paula hancocks, thank you very much. we talked before the break about the remarkable challenges facing dive teams, the difficult conditions. as well as the formidable and unsurmountable situation. appreciate you being with us. first we'll take a look at the animation of the ship actually going down, that is the current position, let's take a view at it right here. now where would divers go, how deep would they have to go? >> well, the majority of the people that were told to stay put they were in these areas right here, which is the berthing departments. so you're looking at surface right there. 40 to 50 feet below the surface of the water for the fifth deck, which is where the majority of these people are. >> where would divers try to
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enter the ship from? would it be multiple location? >> it would be, and they were experiencing problems trying to get access to these areas here on the second deck. i understand they were able to access some of the areas down here on the fifth, which is where most of the people are, but again, they're 50 feet below surface. as a diver, the less time you have, the less you can go -- >> even getting in, the water has to be swirling inside. >> look, the diver's conditions they're dealing with, imagine being in a washing machine with 50 degree water and visibility of about six inches, that is what these guys are dealing with as divers going through a ship essentially using their hands. >> and when you try to go in, do you go to the bottom of the ship and work your way down? >> it all depends on the search patterns that they decide to use, they will have a crew here, then maybe here. they will start deep and they will try basically and converge in the middle.
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and they're just going to be basically working their way in the middle, starting at the lowest, which is the most dangerous and pressing and work their way up. >> and they try to do it as systematically as possible? >> that is it. >> and there is a lot of talk about the possibility of air pockets. we don't know if there are, if there were is there any way to tell where they might be? >> there are three things you had to have gone through to be a survivor right now. you had to survive, if they hit something, a blunt trauma, you had to survive that. number two, an area where there is breathable air. most likely those will be where the cabins are. i understand a lot of folks were in the cafeteria area. that is about an hour and hour and a half of being submersed in the water. one or two people were able to get a majority of their body in
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the water line, they're standing on something, it will fight off that hypothermia. >> could there be air pockets? the top level, which is the most under water, i mean, couldn't there be air pockets on each floor or is the bottom one -- >> if you go back one slide here, the best bet, obviously, the area is going to come up. okay, and as we see the ships going down we're realizing it is becoming less and less buoyant. so if there are air pockets anywhere, the best bet will be right here. look, we have three cranes out there, you go ahead and put one up there. they're going to be able to raise the ship up or at least keep it stable. and then you get crews, welding crews putting access into the hull. and you send people down into it. >> you think that is the best bet? >> right now that is the best bet, we've tried the option of
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getting there with divers, you literally do a belly band, two of the cranes there, one tlrks now you control the ship and start to send people down. >> it is just so horrific -- >> as a passenger and survivor, it is counterintuitive. so once you get there, trying to do that option right now it is going to be very difficult. >> thank you so much. and adding to the notion of the survivors under water, and the experience of this man, a nigerian cook, take a look at this video. he was rescued after three days under water, he is inside an air pocket in a sunken tug boat at the bottom of the atlantic. this is actual footage as they find him. suddenly a hand reaches out from that air pocket, 100 feet down, they thought everybody was dead. they didn't know there was going to be a survivor on board. at first the dive team thought they were encountering a corpse. he grabbed the hand, they
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grabbed back. coming up, why crews may be getting ready to put more vehicles in the water in the search for flight 370. and later, we'll tell you how teams deal with obstacles like debris.
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some new development s tonight in the search for flight 370. they add to what we know, only deepening the mystery. they talked about the course, how high it flew and what kind of emergency equipment that was on it that may have helped to locate the craft. and always, more to talk about.
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michael, new information about the plane's flight path. what do you know? >> yeah, you put it well there, anderson, about how it adds to the mystery about getting more detailed. the detail on the flight path from a malaysian aviation source who told cnn that mh-370 made that initial left turn, the departure from its route. and investigators are telling us that it went 9,000 feet, shorter than the 49,000 feet that we were told before. well within the plane's operating altitude. any number of reasons for those moves but it does show again that the plane was under manned control at that point, anderson. >> we're also learning more about the plane's emergency locater transmitters which didn't go off. >> yeah, this same source says that investigators have determined that the jet was equipped with four emergency
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locater transmitters. they're different of course from the data recorders. now those elts are designed to transmit the plane's location from the emergency satellite. and it does that when it is triggered by a crash or contact with the water. but the source was puzzled over why they appear to have not activated. or if they did activate why they were not picked up by the satellite. again raising more questions, did they not activate because they did not work or perhaps the plane did not have a hard impact. if it sank slowly that might not trigger them. again, more questions, anderson, not answers. >> from my understanding, a lot of that is triggered by the presence of water and salt water. adding to the mystery. let's bring in our analyst, david gallo, director of special projects of woods hole institution. and david souci, and cnn
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aviation correspondent richard quest, and inspector general mary schiavo who currently represents families of disasters. and the question we have been asking all along and certainly must be asking about the elts, the locater transmitters which are supposed to come off when it comes in contact with the water. >> well, they're not the most reliable for man or beast, there is a 20% failure rate off that particular instrument. then you have the question of where this took place. the most remote place on earth, way in the depths of the indian ocean. then you factor into it how did the plane actually land or go into the water. was it activated sufficiently? finally you have the question, if the machines work deep, deep
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under water. although it is a big issue there are reasons why the elt may not have given a reading. >> and david souci, there are questions about why the plane went up to 39,000 feet. that is within the range of this aircraft. does that tell you anything? >> well, it tells me again how unreliable the sources are, because they keep telling us one altitude and then another. i maintain they're getting this information from primary radar, not from secondary, so there is no transponder, nothing comes back and confirms that this is that aircraft at that altitude. >> explain to me the difference between primary and secondary radar? >> primary radar is just sending out a signal, it was designed to tell how fast something was coming at you and identify there was something out there coming at you. so that was a defense radar initially designed. the second radar has to do with the transponder. it receives the first ping from
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the primary radar, saying this is my speed, the altitude, the aircraft and where i am. that is secondary, the primary was not really designed to give you altitude. some advanced radar military can do that. >> mary, if you believe the source, they're being told that the plane maintained that altitude for about 20 minutes. >> well, and again, we have yet another set of altitude and directional data. this is now the fourth or 50 fifth time that it changed. and another important point to remember it was in vietnamese air space, with the question that somebody turned off the transponder before they entered into the air space. now we hear they were in vietnamese air space and that we didn't have the fluctuations in altitude, just close to where they went 5,000 feet or 10,000 feet because they fell off
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malaysian radar. yet another story, but i find it very interesting they were already in vietnamese air space. >> david gallo, a bluefin dive happened after. it is with the inertia navigation system. >> well, anderson, so underwater gps doesn't work because radio waves don't penetrate in the water so we have to bring our own system. it is a system based on accelerationings as and gyrosco. the computer keeps track of that and can tell you, it is a pretty about approximation of where the vehicle is. >> and the bluefin could have been cut short, is that just par for the course? >> it is par for the course, in the air france 447, they were cut short. every time you do that you learn a little bit more about the
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operation. so i expect they're already back in the water on their next mission. >> the malaysians now apparently have a commission that is looking into whether or not to have more underwater vehicles. do you think there should be? >> it is not a bad idea if you know exactly what they're going to be doing. it is all about the plan. and we have been calling it mowing the lawn. and i just keep thinking about having six or seven different people showing up to mow your lawn, you know if it is not coordinated right, you have a problem on your hands. missing spots, going over it two or three times. so they need a solid plan on how to deploy those assets. >> and they're not far from the bluefin, although they say they haven't seen anything. >> no, they say nothing of note has been found. and maybe it will be at some point they will release one specimen picture so we know what
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it looks like. but i'm sure the conspiracy theorists are happily concocting a tale that they're spinning it. the minute we go down that road we might as well turn the lights off. already, showing you what it is like trying to recover wreckage under water. and later, an avalanche with at least 12 sherpas killed. we'll have more on that. road construction, and gaping potholes. so with all that behind you, you might want to make sure you're safe and in control. ford technicians are ready to find the right tires for your vehicle. get up to $120 in mail-in rebates on four select tires when you use the ford service credit card at the big tire event. see what the ford experts think about your tires. at your ford dealer.
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. well, at this point there is no telling what search teams will have to deal with if and when they find wreckage at the bottom of flight 370. for all we know the black boxes could be stuck in other metal, with cables, so it could be slow and could take time to retrieve them. david mattingly joins us now live. david, if and when the team does find black boxes, how do they actually go about retrieving it stuck in wreckage? >> well, as you might expect, it is a very slow and tedious
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process. and we're down here to demonstrate it. there are a couple of things to show you. there are just a couple of tools at their disposal. on the left there, it looks like a vinyl record, a cutting saw. and we'll switch to the camera right now, and on the lower left-hand portion of the screen is another device, looks like a claw. with me is phil nuytten, a deep-water diving expert. and it would take a lot of time just to get a piece of metal or metal tool there to get to the instruments to use them. and while we're talking, let's go ahead and try to cut that. because that in itself is a process. go ahead. >> okay, jeff, you want to fire up the hpu? >> hpu is hot. >> >> hpu is hot and let's commence cutting. >> and this is just going to be for one cut. to process it takes about 30
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seconds. you're dealing with poor visibility down here. and at the bottom of the indian ocean, two, three miles down you will be dealing with all the pressure down there. and you can see how long this takes. are we close? >> we should be. >> here we go. oops, it didn't work. nope? there we go. that was it. anderson, all of that for just one cut. so you could imagine if there is a lot of wreckage to be moved, if the black boxes are trapped somehow it would be very slow and very difficult to get to them. >> how about can a submersible vessel stay down? >> well, there are about a half dozen submersible vessels that can carry people down to the bottom of the ocean at those depths and they can stay down for about six hours depending on how much time it takes to get
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down to the bottom. because they have to be very slow and very methodical to go and have a place to land. but also, you have to have safety on your mind because that is a real danger, getting entang entangled, you have to make sure there is another sub waiting nearby to help if you get stuck. >> right, you have to have a manned sub or a deep-diving rov. so you're always very cognizant of what is around you, particularly in wreckage where anything can hang you up. >> right, you saw how hard it is to make just that one cut in one pipe. if your sub gets stuck well, let's just say it is something you don't want to have happen. >> wow, that is amazing, the technology, thank you. coming up, 12 sherpsa on the
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sherp . well, it is the deadliest accident ever on the world's highest mountain. the accident on mt. everest killed 12 sherpas. right now, groups of people are setting ropes and getting camps
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ready for the spring climbing season which is the busiest of the year. more than 300 foreign climbers have been given permission to climb everest with about 400 sherpas helping them. it is a dangerous job to say the least. and last year, he wrote a disturbing piece called "the disposing man," a book on sherpas. so the idea of them being disposable, what do you mean by that? >> well, i think what i was writing about and really what it comes down to is this sort of routinization of sherpa death on the passes. there have always been sherpas dying on everest. but it was sort of done on the idea of speaker decisions for god and country. now it is done with the tourist destination. what we know is about 1% of everyone who leaves base camp is not going to come back. and as a work place safety statistic that is pretty much off the charts. so you know, if you're a sherpa,
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it is more dangerous than fighting in the u.s. military, certainly. and that is sort of where that title comes from. >> and i mean, they're risking their lives almost every day. are they paid well? i mean, why -- i guess there are not a lot of other job opportunities? >> well, know, i mean, it is the best job going in the region, if somebody wants to stay in their home valley and work and make a good living and if you're fit enough and strong enough to do it, these guys can make between two and $6 per month depending on the outfit they're working for. it is hugely risky, and they're carrying heavy loads through the passes, it is incredibly dangerous. they will do a dozen laps through the ice fall, compared with an american western commercial client who will do maybe three rotations at most. so what you have is a situation where the -- you know, the western climbers are essentially
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out-sourcing the risk to the sherpas who are climbing, who are doing not only the heavy lifting but also exposing themselves to more time in harm's way, to sort of rule out hazards that the mountain can throw at you. >> and why is that region, the ice fall region, is that particularly dangerous? >> well, you know, the ice fall is sort of the glacier that flows from camp one, at the base camp. and has these sheets of ice that are teetering every day. and both inside, and above it, raining down onto it. and you know normally you know, normally people try to get through there you know by six -- by the time the sun hits it. but in this case, you had a sort of rare avalanche that was you know, hit it at 6:30 in the
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morning, right during everest rush hour, and you had reports of as high as 50 people in the way of this thing. >> and when something like that happens on everest, do other sherpas, do other climbers then go to try to search for those who are still missing? >> yeah, you know, i mean in the buddha tradition, it is very important to have a the loved ones have a speedy reincarnation. people are waking up at base camp as we speak. and the first thing on their mind is to find the missing four sherpa climbers. yeah, they're going to go and be right in the line of fire. you know, shovels in hand, digging for their lost comrades. and they will probably stay as long as it takes to find them, even if they're in harm's way themselves. >> it is interesting what you talk about. the tourist nature of climbing. you can sort of sign onto a
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service that will basically get you up the mountain, right? >> yeah, that is right. and to their credit, outfitters have gotten very good in getting people to the summit mostly safely. but you know, the mountain is still the mountain. and you know, you can get fitter and have better nutrition and better equipment but you can't stop the mountain from raining down avalanches on you. so expeditions, commercial expeditions can now give somebody a slightly better than average fitness, but they can't stop the mountain from producing avalanches and people from having altitude sickness and that sort of thing. we've come a long way but it is still just as dangerous as it has been. >> well, i know you're leaving shortly, be careful. and i'm a huge fan of "outside." thank you so much. and upcoming, parts unknown with anthony bourdain.
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you haven't been -- you have been kind of critical of las vegas in the past. >> well, there is a las vegas that we see and a las vegas that presents itself to the world. so we're looking at the las vegas that not a lot of people see. on the high end, you know, these super secret massive luxury villa accommodations that are available to the super rich whale gamblers. and on the other hand, looking at the people who live in las vegas, who are born in las vegas, coming out of the side doors, the bowels. the people year after year, serving drinks, cleaning rooms. imagine, you live in a town that says come to las vegas, behave as badly as you want, and there will be no consequences. we have to see this. we talk to people about what their view of the world is, given that they see the most
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appalling behavior of their lives. it is pretty interesting how they answer. >> there are also great chefs who have gone to las vegas. >> we create and do quality food there because it is a place where there are people with too much money and are happy to spend it on a luxury like a very creative, exclusive meal. you know, possibly the greatest thai restaurant is in las vegas, and the interior of a frightening looking strip mall, where before they opened, all you could maybe get there was a massage and a beating. >> was this the same place? a massage and beating? >> i suspect so. there are some really good restaurants that are off the strip. and so you know, we try to visit both sides. the have's and the have not's,
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not built around las vegas, the dance clubs make more money than the slots a lot of times in las vegas. >> i always find it is depressing when you're leaving las vegas in the airport, and there are people at the slot machines, they have spent their money and the weekend is over and returning to their lives. >> come on, you never lost your last dollar at a gas station or come on, you haven't lived. >> i haven't lived, be sure to tune in with anthony bourdain, "parts unknown." and cnn tonight with bill weir starts right now. good evening, i'm bill weir. and this is "cnn tonight." as we head into the weekend tonight so many remain gripped on what is happening on the other side of the world, and the words that spelled doom for a plane.