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i think she looks amazing. and hln avoided concealment measures by sticking to a side view. >> it looks like she's hailing a cab with that. every cab would stop short on a dime. >> every little girl's dream to dress up. >> reporter: even. you're state of undress leaves many shaking their heads. now this is too much. twerk alert. cnn, new york. >> and anderson starts now. good evening, thank you for joining us. the bowe bergdahl story is now a fire storm nearly each new detail fueling the flames including the breaking news tonight suggesting that sergeant bergdahl did walk away from his post willingly. as he recooperates in germany, president obama is feeling the
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heat. he's defending the deal, the release of detainees to free him and even in light of allegations that he deserted and may have been actively seeking contact with the enemy. >> regardless of the circumstances, whatever those circumstances may turn out to be, we still get an american soldier back if he's held in captivity, period. >> back in washington, the security adviser calling dianne feinstein who chairs the intelligence committee apologizing for not giving 30 days of the deal required by law. unclear if he accepted the apology, but she was not happy with the way this all unfolded. >> it comes with some surprise and dismay that the transfers went ahead with no consultation, totally not following the law, and in an issue of this kind of concern to a committee that
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bares the oversight responsibility, i think you can see that we're very dismayed about it. >> dismayed republican committee members even more so. we'll get a sense with it shortly with john mccain. white house press secretary jay carney joins us as well. a tweet now deleted that sergeant bergdahl's father bob apparently sent to a taliban spokesman. it reads "i'm still working to free aum guantanamo prisoners. god will repay for the death of every afghan child." the family declined comment. we're also learning more about what kind of intelligence the mi military had about where sergeant bergdahl was being held and what a preliminary report concluded about the circumstances of his disappearance. they are fascinating. covering those angles and more is barbara starr ats the
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pentagon. barbara, the army announced a comprehensive coordinated review of his disappearance. what have you learned? >> good evening, anderson. they are going to conduct another fact-finding investigation now that bergdahl is back. they will talk to him when he is medically and psychologically able. but there was a preliminary investigation conducted back in the 2009 timeframe when he first disappeared. u.s. military officials tell me that that initial investigation concluded indeed he did leave that post of his own free will. the evidence left behind, his weapon, his bullet proof vest and night vision goggles, very key items. they did not classify him as a deserter at that time. they'll have to talk to him, get the facts and find out what his intent was. did he intend to desert the u.s. military? >> is it clear at this point how he actually left the base? it's hard to just walk off of a
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base. i heard some reports he may have gone in a contractors vehicle? >> that's really interesting. we don't exactly know. this may not have been a full out military base, but rather a small outpost. maybe a couple structures, a guard tower. not clear because so far there's no soldier that was there that night that saw him leave. >> michelle, you're traveling with the president. the white house getting a lot of blowback the way they handled this. it led to some type of apology to members of the intelligence committee. >> this is confusing because what we heard was an apology, we thought that sounded strange because national security team has been completely unapologetic about this. today they put out a statement
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really spelling out why they feel that this operation was completely within the law. basically because they say that bergdahl's life was in danger. they have this window of time they have to act within. to delay that by involving congress at that point would have put his life in danger. so legal, they say. when they asked the national security team about the apology, they were just calling senators to express regrets that they weren't able to be reached personally on saturday when some other law mmakers were reachabl and they were briefed on the situation as it was happening. so they are pretty much denying this was an apology. i think more is going to be coming out on this as we have heard more and more from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. unhappy not necessarily with the fact that bergdahl was obtained back from the taliban. but how this went down and also the number and the type of prisoners released from guantanamo. they are saying the same thing. there were discussions with congress. some are saying that was as long
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ago as two years, but all the details they are angry about now were not within what they thought the scope of this would turn out to be. john mccain even calling this wrong, unacceptable to the american people he's saying. >> going to talk to senator mccain later on in the broadcast. he actually earlier said he would support some sort of exchange under certain conditions and depended on the details. i will talk to him about that. ed, i want to go to you in idaho. you're finding out new details about the tweet that i mentioned earlier. apparently by bergdahl's father saying i'm still working to free the prisoners. what do you know about it? have they confirmed that came from the father? >> we tried to double check with the bergdahl family today about whether or not that indeed came from bob bergdahl, they were told by the military spokesman that works with the family they
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would have no comment on it. but bob bergdahl has been tweet ing for some time and is used to this avenue to gather intelligence, gather information, communicate with people, send messages and their friends of the family says he has done this always with the hope of creating sympathy pr his son and in some way trying to save his son. but obviously, that tweet quickly deleted after it was sent out because it was causing criticism tonight. >> we'll have more from all of you later on in the broadcast, appreciate it. whatever you think of the latest developments, it's safe to say the picture has changed from the one on saturday in the rose garden. president obama alongside the bergdahls hailing his release as another piece of commitment to wind down the war. today that picture of the white house pride has become a defensive crowd. jay carney doing a lot of the
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defending. i spoke to him before the broadcast tonight. >> sergeant bergdahl was held by a terrorist organization. i know you were negotiating through a mediator, but in reality, can it be said you were negotiating with terrorists? >> anderson, sergeant bergdahl was held as a prisoner in an armed conflict, one that's been going on for more than a dozen years, has a general principle going back to our founding. the united states military does not leave its men and women in uniform behind when they are held by the enemy in captivity. in this situation as has been the case for the previous five years, we were doing everything we could and looking at every option possible to try to recover sergeant bergdahl. he was the lone captive remaining from either the iraq or afghanistan war. you pointed out in your question accurately that we had been
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engaged in direct talks with the taliban on broader issues including sergeant bergdahl but also exploring the possibility of reconciliation talks. those broke down in 201. in this case, through a third party, we were able to negotiate his release and the transfer of these guantanamo bay detainees. >> i understand the imperative of not leaving anyone behind, but at the same time, can it still be said that the united states does not negotiate with terrorists? >> it can be, anderson, because when you put on the uniform for the united states and you go and fight on behalf of your country in a foreign land at war and you're taken captive it, the principle that we don't leave our men and women behind doesn't have an asterisk attached to it
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depending on who is holding you. that's what we pursued here. >> even if it was al qaeda, there would be negotiations? >> that's not the case here. what i'm saying is he was a prisoner in an armed conflict and we were engaged in an effort for five years to try to recover him. as an admiral said on tv today, he said when one of your shipmates goes overboard, you go get them. you don't ask whether he jumped or was pushed or you fell, you get him first and find out. >> you said there was a window of opportunity because the end of the war to make this deal. secretary hagel said that bergdahl's health was in jeopardy. which was it? what was the reason? >> secretary hagel said that his health and safety. the fact is we had to move quickly in order to ensure that his life was not jeopardized. as you pointed out, he wasn't
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being held by a bunch of nice guys here. he had been in captivity for five years. we had reason to believe that it was necessary to move quickly and not to notify congress 30 days in advance and forego the opportunity of recovering him. and i would note, anderson, that the conversations about the exchange of prisoners here had been engaged in for quite some time including with members of congress during the previous episode when there was the potential for direct discussions with the taliban and recovery of sergeant bergdahl through that in 2011 and 2012. senator mccain himself said he would support such a deal, and that was not that many months ago. >> you have to note that the details of it, but he would support the deal. >> but the details are you had the secretary of defense in consultation with the entire
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national security team affirm that there is sufficient mitigation of the threat posed by these detainees to merit the exchange and the recovery of sergeant bergdahl. >> senator feinstein talked about your previous briefings, and e she said that there were strong views and virtually unanimous against the trade. she even suggested that might have been the motivation behind not consulting congress. to that you say what? >> a notification is a notification. it's not a request for permission. obviously there are diverse views on a matter like this, which is i concede, very complex. there are competing imperatives. what was a fact is that in her case, an issue that had been worked on for a long time reached a point where there was an opportunity to secure sergeant bergdahl's release. >> was there any concern about having a ceremony in the rose
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garden? why go to that level of public attention on it? you could have very easily brought this guy home and sort of kept it relatively quiet. >> i guess i'm perplexed by that kind of analysis, which i guess suggests that some of the reporters were surprised by the story that's evolved over the last several days. we were aware of the circumstances around this case. it was the right thing to do because of what we were doing to make it clear to the public that the president thought this was the right thing to do and to join with his participaents who been suffering to make that statement. >> jay carney, i appreciate your time. we had had to edit the interview for time. to see the whole conversation, visit our website. john mccain spent five years in the hands of brutal captors. his perspective and why back in february he supported the idea of making a deal to free
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sergeant b sergeant bergdahl who and has doubts. what made him tick? what made him leave his post? some possible clues, next.
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covering the bowe bergdahl story. the full circumstances of his disappearance and the motivations if he walked away are left from his unit. remain murky. we have yet to receive a final determination from the pentagon let alone hear from bergdahl himself. some of his fellow troops have been speaking out including sergeant evan, his team leader the night he disappeared and the soldier was sikhing out the ene enemy.
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>> i was standing next to the radio when they heard that there was an american in a village about wo miles from where we were at. it's a village that has a very large presence of taliban. the american is in the village, looking for someone who speaks english so he can speak to the taliban. i heard it straight from the interpreter's lips as he heard it over the radio. at that point, it was like, this is kind of snowballing out of control. there's a lot more to this story than just a soldier walking away. >> that may understate the case. more from pamela brown now. >> reporter: soldiers who served with bowe bergdahl tell cnn he joined the military as a quiet, well behaved soldier. a portrait two years ago, those who knew him said in the days before his deployment he seemed more interested in learning,
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reading military manuals and studying maps of afghanistan than socializing over barbecue and beer. but once he got to afghanistan, he started to change. >> as soon as had gone to afghanistan and things started to turn a little bit harder for all of us, he immediately started separating himself away from us and everyone in the platoon and started gravitating more toward the afghan soldiers. >> reporter: bergdahl's father told "rolling stone" his son was lured to the army with the false promise he would be helping afghan villagers rebuild their lives. e-mails to his family show bergdahl's growing disillusionment and one e-mail calling command stupid after an ambush on his unit. >> he did talk about how he did not agree with the war effort in afghanistan. or the way we were handling our
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war in afghanistan. >> in his final e-mail before being captured, he wrote, i'm ashamed to even be american. the u.s. army is the biggest joke the world has to laugh at. it's an army of back stabbers, fools and bull lis. it ends with some are seeing as a clear sign of what was to come. i'm sorry for everything, he wrote. there are a few more boxes coming to you guys, referring to his uniform and books. feel free to open them and use them. >> i think it was premeditated with the e-mails he sent to his father, mailing his stuff home before the mission. it definitely u shows intent. >> reporter: just days after the last e-mail, bergdahl disappeared pr camp and a frantic search ensued. one of his fellow soldiers remembers him asking a strange question about his sensitive equipment. his gun, bullet-proof vest and night vision goggles. >> he came to me and asked me, he said, what would happen to my
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sensitive items go missing? it's odd, but he still asked me. i told him. and it was just one of those other things. once he walked away and we had the items left behind, it just kind of made perfect sense. >> reporter: why he slipped away five years ago, remains a mystery. pamela brown, cnn, washington. >> it appears clear the experience of war changed him and war does unexpected things to different people. so does cappivety. john mccain endoured more than five years of nonstop mental and physical torture. he still has the scars to show for it. he brings a unique perspective to the debate of how far to kbo to bring prisoners home. i spoke to senator mccain just before the broadcast. >> when you and i spoke in february, you said you would support a prisoner exchange. you were opposed to releasing the five taliban leaders as a confidence boosting measure, but you did signal you were open for
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exchanging bergdahl that a lot would depend on the details. what has changed between then and now? >> first of all, i said it twice. depending on the details, in other words, do not trade one person for five hard core -- the hardest of the hard core murdering war criminals who will clearly reenter the fight and send them to qatar, of all places, where they will be free to roam including to the taliban headquarters there in qatar and then after a year will be allowed to go back into the fight in afghanistan. this is the hard core that we're judged time after time as unworthy of -- needed to be kept in detention because they posed a risk and a threat to the united states of america. these are the hard core.
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they are the cabinet that will go back to the fight and try to kill americans. that is a lousy deal. and let me say, again, i said to you twice it depends on the details. these details are terrible. and by the way, could i just say if a sailor falls overboard, a captain picks hum up no matter what. but also the captain did you want steer his ship into waters where the ship could be sunk, which is exactly what is happening in this case. so i'm sometimes entertained by mr. carney quoting me, but i wish he would quote me in full context. >> there has been a lot of criticism of the deal from members of congress. everyone agrees your voice carries an extraordinary amount of weight because of your experienc experiences. how do you reconcile the fact that you think this was a bad move with the reality that
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unless the deal was mad bowe bergdahl would likely still be in captivity. was there a better option? >> because we have a much larger obligation. that obligation is the lives of the men and women who are on the battlefield who are laying their lives on the line when we know full well that these five hard core, top level, which the taliban designated are going to go back into the fight and try to kill americans. unfrptly and tragically, they have succeeded. and by the way, when we sign up in the military, we know that we go into harm's way and we know sometimes circumstances may not work in our favor. so to somehow say under any circumstances we would bring this wonderful -- i'm sure he's a fine man and his family is happy, to bring him home no matter the cost to america and american blood and treasure is
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not acceptable. and again, when we sign up, when we volunteer, when we raise our right hand, i didn't complain about having been shot down. i knew what i was doing when i flew into combat. and so we all do take a risk unfrptly, and that's the nature of war and the nature of service in the armed services. this is the first time i have discu discussed it in this fashion, but i'm appalled to think that everything that the united states is submerged and lower priority than the release of one soldier. that's not how war works. and not how national security is addressed and my heart goes out to sergeant bergdahl, i'm glad he's home, but in exchange for that, you can't put americans' lives in danger. >> senator mccain, i appreciate your time. up next, a hostage survivor
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there aren't that many people that can relate to what bergdahl's family has been going through. he was reunited with his family after being held for five years
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in columbia. he went to the same facility where sergeant bergdahl is expected to go. in 2003 he was taking part in a narcotics mission for the pentagon when his plane wept down. the colombian military rescued him. e he joins me now live. appreciate you being with us. you were held for five years and you went to the same reintegration process that sergeant bergdahl is going through. what's the biggest challenge you face suddenly being free after having everything controlled for so long? >> gosh, i think the biggest challenge initially is the overwhelming emotional shock. you go from having nothing to decide nothing to do but sit. we were chained to trees for days on end. you go from somebody telling you when to brush your teeth to the
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modern world as we see today where we're surrounded by the internet. so just that ingest of information it's overwhelming and tough to deal with at first. it's tough to process it. . >> and lynn, it's a pleasure to have you on the program. we're hearing that sergeant bergdahl's time with reintroduction to his family is going to be carefully orchestrated. you experienced kind of the same thing with keith. what was that like? how did it work to be reintroduced to him. >> hi, anderson, thank you. you were kind enough to cover this while he was in captivity and we appreciate it. well, the army and the staff at bamc have it all well planned out. not only for the hostages who were released, but for all the family. and they couldn't have been more wonderful in terms of pacing
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everything very carefully so that keith and mark and tom would not have been overwhelmed. we only had half an hour on our first visit with him. after the tears and the hugs, they took him away and let him rest and then the next day we were able to have lunch. everything is carefully planned out for their health. >> was that hard as a mom to be told, well, this first time you're only going to have half an hour after big separated for five years. >> after five years, we were grateful for the half hour and we knew he was in good hands and everyone was extremely respectful and helpful and advised us that this was the best way to do it. >> keith, can you explaining that idea of half an hour? some people who haven't been through this would think it would be great to spend with family. is it just so overwhelming? >> that's the exact word for it. i remember when i was told i
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would only have 30 minutes. i said this is crazy. i want days with them, not 30 minutes. each one of us had a doctor assigned to us. the doctor said i promise you when you get in there, it's going to be tough. and we had a little csignal worked out if i couldn't make the 30 minutes that they would pull me out. i have to be honest. about 10 or 15 minutes into it, it was -- my breath was very rapid, i was breathing deeply. i had a cold sweat because it was an emotional overload. i was beyond happy but trying to keep it under control was tough for me. believe me, the half an hour i was sad when i walked out of the room and left my family in there, but i also walked out in the hallway and could settle down and breathe and i had to sit quietly to put myself together. >> that's fascinating. how long did that experience
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last for? was it kind of a little bit more every day? >> it was a little bit more every day. i think really the first reunion for us was the initial shock was the big one. after that it became normalized fairly rapidly. the next day we had lunch and spent the afternoon together. there was quarters on base where the families were kept. it was on the third day we were taken over there. so it's all programmed out. no matter what the outcome on this court of public opinion on bergdahl is for the family and for him, i hope that they trust in the folks will in san antonio because they know what they are doing and they have their best interest in mind. it helped us tremendously. there was a wall put up around us and we were protected for ten days to get our feet on the ground. >> what would be your advice to the family going through this? i've talked to some e people who say take your cues from the
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person who has been through this and the experts. what would you counsel them? >> well, i think that would be good advice if they could enlist the help of someone like keith, mark and tom and others who have been held hostage so long and are trying to reintegrate into normal life. the family is going to have to be the rudder and the rock and the anchor and the guide and take care of so many details that are not even anticipating yet. just minor things giving driver's license and just getting back into a normal life and setting up a home, that type of thing. it's a long process, and the parents are going to have to really be the strong anchor for their son. >> keith, i don't want to ask anything too personal, but are you a different person than the person who was first taken? has this experience forever
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changed you in some way? >> absolutely it has. i hope, and i would hope the people around me would say i'm a better person for it. anything that i can take from it and turn into a positive is a small win for me. i think that my life is by far better since my captivity than before, but that being said, better in many ways, but there's also scars i will carry forever. e we all face our own challen s challenges. we speak about these all the time, but there's some things you're never going to get over. some things for me i would say four to five nights, aoife dream about myself being in captivity still. i'm much better able to cope with that and the details and factings about my captivity don't bother me now.
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summertime we spend a lot of time outside. as you tan, i have scars on my body from the chains, scars on my neck and on my shoulders. as i get a tan, the scars don't tan. sometimes i look at those in the mirror and i think, gosh, how fortunate am i to be home, to be here because two of my crew members didn't make it out. so in one way it's a badge that i carry and look at, and it's a mix of pride and sadness. there's a lot of emotion tide up into it. but at the end of the day, i made it out alive and there's a couple companions that didn't. so all in all, you have to stack it up as a win just to be here. >> you both look great. it's good to have you here and to see how well you seem to be. i appreciate you talking to us. >> thank you, anderson. >> thank you, sir. we have severe weather pounding the midwest. nebraska is in the thick of it. the latest on that ahead. plus police say a child was
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a lot more on the release of o bowe bergdahl. many crime and punishment, a sleepover that ended with a girl nearly u dead. the two suspects are 12 years old, which is hard to believe. they have been charged as adults. all three girls attend the same middle school. the victim is in stable condition after being stabbed more than a dozen times. a bicyclist found her. tonight the 911 call has been released. >> what's your emergency? >> a 12-year-old female appears to be stabbed. >> appears to be what? >> stabbed. >> according to police the attack was not triggered by a fight or jealousy or disagreement. hay say the suspects tried to kill their friend to impress a madeup character. >> reporter: for three months these 12-year-old girls plotted
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to kill one of their best friends and finally put their plan into action on friday night. that's when they lured her out into the woods and stabbed her 19 times. according to the criminal complaint, morgan came up with the idea and enlisted her friend to help her. both girls were fans of horror websites where they were introduced to a fictional kax called slenderman. they thought he was real and could only meet him if they physically killed someone. >> both suspect hs a fascination with a fictitious character that posted to a website that's a collection of small stories about death and horror. based on our investigation, it is believed that the suspects had planned to kill the victim for several months. >> reporter: they invited their friend identified in the complaint only as a 12-year-old for a sleepover on friday night. they planned on duct tape iing
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victim's mouth and stabbing her in the neck while she was sleeping. gooizer told police that was so they wouldn't have to look into her eyes. by the next morning, the plan had changed. they plotted to kill her in a park bathroom because she noticed a drain in the floor for the blood to go down and the three girls left for the park. on the way there, they lifted up the side of the jacket and showed the knife tucked into hir waist band. she said, i thought, dear god, this was really happening. this is the park bathroom where they initially wanted to kill their friend, but they got nervous and started arguing. they decided to do it by playing hide and seek in the woods right down this way. they lured her down there. geyser did all the stabbing. geyser says they both did all the stabbing. once it started, they left their friend for dead hoping to then see slenderman. >> many of the stab wounds struck major organs, but
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thankfully the victim survived this brutal assault. >> reporter: the vick item managed to crawl to the road and was found by a bicyclist who called police. one of the knife wounds missed a major artery near her heart by just a millimeter. the two girls were found walking near the interstate. they later told police they plan to walk to slenderman's mansion after the crime, which they believed was in the nick let national park. they are charged with attempted murder and have been cooperating with police. >> that victim is doing better and better. she's able to sit up today for the first time and isn't talking to investigators. they say the investigation continues into looking into the hard drives of the individuals involved. they do not believe that anybody else is involved in this. >> thank you so much. let's dig deeper with a former profiler. two young suspects saying they want to kill someone in order to
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prove themselves to a fictitious online character. one girl says she saw him in her dreams, he watches her. have you heard of anything like this? >> no, this is really very unusual. not just because it involves young females, but the brutality of it. those two things together it's event unusual. >> one person to have this kind of idea that there's this fictitious, but for two people to believe in it seems odd. >> it's likely that a couple things will come out. there's going to be a leader and a follower in this crime. one of the girls reportedly said she dreamt about him. he spoke to her. almost took on perhaps more of a
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boyfriend crush kind of aspect to her because 12 years old, that's kind of the age where crushes kind of begin. but i really don't think that this website caused these girls, who would not have otherwise done it, to go out and attempt to murder their friend. i think there's more to it. i heard early on that maybe jealousy or problems with that friend were not the issue. but i think there's more there in terms of what came first. problems with the friend or the website? i don't think this website influenced them by themselves to go out and commit this murder. i think the investigation is going to show more than that. >> so you're saying this idea of this slenderman, that was sort of something that allowed them to act this stuff out or kind of gave shape to it, but issues existed before that. >> i think that's a real possibility that there were issues with that friend and then as they began to research it, it is pretty amazing that two
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12-year-olds are planning this for months, maybe even going back to december, but i think there's a real possibility that once they decided that they were going to act out in this very violent way, then they find the website and the two kind of merge and evolve together. >> just bizarre, appreciate your expertise, thank you very much. there's a lot more happening tonight. susan hendricks is here. >> anderson, parts of nebraska, iowa and missouri are in for a long night. severe weather is pounding the area. there's drenching rain and winds could top 80 miles per hour. some towns in nebraska are already getting hit with hail as big as baseballs. we are waiting for results in a nas i gop race. thad cochran is seeking another term. he's facing stiff opposition from 42-year-old state senator chris mcdaniel, who has the backing of the tea party.
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time now for the ridiculist. we're answering the question does a bear sit in a hammock? the answer is a resounding yes. this is daytona beach and what neighbor hs to say. >> it's a very important day. we didn't think you were going to do the ridiculist, did you? a very influential, highly intelligent and extremely attractive person was born on this day in history. i'm speaking about the singer denise williams, who you will remember from "let's hear it for the boy." it was on the "foot loose" sound track. but also one anderson cooper was born. so your staff wanted to wish you a very happy birthday and tell
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you how proud they are to work with you every single day. >> i would like to point out my birthday was two weeks ago. did i get an on-air tribute? i don't think so. >> happy birthday, anderson. we have so much respect for you as a colleague. your dedication is really an inspiration to all of us. even before you came to cnn, really you were the picture of professionalism, whether you're posing with dogs or selling big boy spring jackets. you put the model in role model. happy birthday. >> what is the big deal? does this kindergarten? everybody has a birthday. >> happy birthday. i was trying to think of what to get you and really racking my brain about it. what could i get anderson? and finally, it dawned on me. i heard about these really cool limo tours in denver in colorado, really cool, if you
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know what i mean. i thought, hey, you might want to try one of those. >> how much longer are you going to be there for? >> i think i need to come home. i'm coming home tomorrow. >> have you ever walked down the street with this guy? they go crazy. the men, the women. i always tell the women, don't get your hopes up. it's impossible. he's some blue-eyed gazelle with a crew cut. >> i'm wearing my ac 360 snug gi. when you fill in for anderson, they give you one of these. my understanding is that he's worn every one of them. so before you get it, anderson has to wear it because i can smell it in it which is the best way to celebrate anderson's birthday, to smell him. happy birthday, anderson.
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>> it's your 47th birthday. congratulations, what is that some sort of milestone, 47? this is [ bleep ]. >> happy birthday, anderson. it's such a rare gift to have a colleague like you. such a joy to work with someone i genuinely like and admire. the great thing is i know it's reciprocated. and i appreciate that. >> i had somebody yell at me on the street. hey drd drd. i was like [ bleep ] you. >> happy birthday. one thing shs do not celebrate with that glass of wine and the ambien you normally put together when you travel. >> happy birthday, anderson. >> on behalf of all of us here in the situation room and all of us at cnn, our viewers in the united states and around the world, happy birthday! ♪
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