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havoc. >> your "new day" starts right now. announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> this morning iraq's largest oil refinery is up for grabs. the militant group isis is battling for control of it as it presses closer to baghdad, and now the group's influence may have spread to the u.s. two men have been arrested on terror charges in texas. one of them interested in isis activity in syria and joining the fight himself. the iraq crisis is weighing heavily on the white house, president obama telling congressional leaders he'll keep them in the loop but doesn't think he needs their authority to act. cnn is covering this story like no one else can. we begin with white house correspondent michelle kosinski. what do we know? >> reporter: the question has been what is going on, and the administration has been
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repeating since last week options are being discussed. now we know a little bit more about their thinking and what went on in that meeting with congressional leaders, an hour long closed-door discussion. now we know some top officials think that the iraqi prime minister has to go. are we any closer to hearing a decision? maybe. america's four top lawmakers called to the white house on one of the several decisions facing this country now, what to do or not about iraq. but this was not, it turns out, a session for the president to lay each option on the table and start choosing but more an assessment. nancy pelosi called it informative, interesting. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell less enthused. the president briefed us on the approach he's taking towards developing a strategy. on a day that one analyst called iraq the start of the possibly the worst of both worlds, a deep division into two terror states,
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one dominated by al qaeda and the other by iran. the administration had to grapple with potential outcomes of u.s. action there and some fierce words at home. former vice president dick cheney in cowboy hat with daughter liz. >> empty threats, meaningless red lines, leading from behind and an engagement with rogue regimes have put america on a path of decline. >> reporter: on the same day they launched a new pac and wrote an excoriating op-ed piece. rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many to which the administration now replies. >> about which president was he talking. >> reporter: other democrats have not been so oblique in that reference calling out cheney himself. >> if there's one thing that this country does not need is that we should be taking advice from dick cheney on wars. >> reporter: so the administration will not answer questions on virtually any detail. are air strikes off the table right now, even though iraq has
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been asking for them? does maliki need to go? what they are saying is iraq needs to show something politically, militarily and that this decision-making process will only be done through the lens of protecting american national security interests. kate? >> all right, michelle, thank you so much. you wonder what is the timing in his decision-making. continue to get questions at the white house for sure. michelle at the white house for us. now to troubling think details and potentially a new angle in all of this about the arrest of those two texas men on terror-related charges. officials say the men wanted to travel overseas to wage violent jihad, one of them accused of even wanting to join isis, the group we're talking about in iraq right now. cnn's ed lavandera has for more on this from dallas. what are we learning. >> reporter: a disturbing story, news of the arrests and it highlights an even more disturbing trend as well. these two american men arrested
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in texas have been charged with supporting terrorist groups in syria and somalia. a swath team surrounded 23-year-old kahn's home in austin. according to a complaint he used internet chat rooms to develop and conduct jihad overseas and the other wanted to enter into syria through turkey and provide his services to radical groups. wolf referred to al qaeda representatives as righteous brothers according to the criminal complaint, even showing the fbi agent a youtube video of foreign fighters in syria. wolf discussed which militant groups he should join, including the brutal islamist group isis, currently staging an offensive against iraq. the texas native also told undercover officers he had been physically preparing to join jihad by practicing martial
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arts, running and cross-fit, the competitive sport which uses military-style tech next. >> this is something that has been going on for a while and since even the early 2000s people from america have gone over to terrorist camps overseas, but sites like youtube can be used to recruit people, even in the united states very easily where before they were -- they were out of reach. >> reporter: analysts believe as many as 100 american citizens have made the trek to fight in syria. last month an american suicide bomber who grew up in florida set off a massive truck bomb at a syrian military checkpoint. syrian jihadists tweeted several photos of the american before he took his life with bombs strapped to his chest. social media has now become one of the many ways al qaeda recruits westerners to fight alongside radical islamists. both men have been charged separately. they do not appear to be working
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together. if convicted, they face up to 15 years in federal prison, and they will be making their first court appearance friday afternoon in austin, texas. chris? >> if they were acting separately, it's even more troubling on some level. thank you very much for the report. cross-fit has nothing to do with terrorism. this is just about what the motivations are for these men involved so let's get into that. lieutenant colonel rick francona former leeson military officer to the u.s. embassy in baghdad and also assigned to the cia in northern iraq. in other words, you are the right man for the job today. let's talk about this first. as we get education on how this works, we think terrorism, this is about the feds. this is about the intelligence community. they do this. you say no. that's not who finds whole grown terrorists. >> that's the work of the local fbi and nypd is excellent at this, a large effort sorted to finding these guys before they travel overseas. >> so it becomes a little bit of
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a coordination job also because if you have law enforcement doing it at some point they have to communicate to the terrorism side, right, because they have to coordinate efforts here and there. >> absolutely. and they run the sting operations, and they are very effective. self-radicalized and are looking for a way to get into the fight. that's the breakdown because they have to contact somebody and that's where they come to the surface. >> the new here is it used to be that mainly recruiting here at home was limited to either rogue mosques or a harsh brand of wahabi being taught in prisons and now you can self-radicalize, what we believe is going on with this man wolfe. >> the internet is a great medium and isis has spent a lot of money. the jihadi organizations produce slick videos, almost romantic. they draw you in. >> draw you in on what basis? what tells michael todd wolfe who has what we believe a pretty stable life in the u.s. i want
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to throw that all away and go and do the worst thing imaginable. >> didn't look like the kind of guy that would do this, but then he was reading the jihad, the romance of it, the fighting, and they show these slick videos, and it's almost like we used to say joining the french foreign legion, like going off and doing battle for your religion. >> was this part and parcel of all the same thing, i want to fight and become a muslim or was he a muslim that became self-radicalized. >> they are a muslim firm and then they get into jihad. it could mean struggle or holy war. it determines how you choose to self-radicalize. >> learning about being a muslim and islam as a culture has nothing to do with wanting to become a terrorist. >> absolutely not. jihad is a holy word, inner
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struggle. >> it's been perverted to become something that's an instrument for violence. >> now we get rahatul khan. what do we know about him in. >> actually from bangladesh. kind of strange because he wasn't raised as a devout muslim, a muslim, of course, and then at some point he became more radicalized and i believe through someone in his mosque. >> this was a little bit more of a dip call thing that we're seeing, not as if the guy had to come up with his own ideas. someone was inculcating. >> he fits the pattern we normally see, someone with a background and the south asians find them to be's prey because they don't find life they wanted here in the united states and they say there's a better life for you out there and you're being discriminated against because you're muslim. >> they play on disenchantment. even if it seems obvious it's difficult for law enforcement to infiltrate because these are
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often happening, these situations, in religious places, right. >> very closed communities, a lot of family and you have to be very careful. most of them tend to be american citizens and you have to be very careful how they are approached and everything has to be done by the book because you're trying to be part of a base. remember the nypd came under a lot of scrutiny because of their activity in mosque situations. >> now, why are we worried about these guys because of this guy, an american holding a kitten there, obviously it's a juxtaposition because he wound up taking it to the next level. he's dead now because of his actions. >> he's from florida, joined the jihad and converted to islam and he was involved with the rival group to isis. he drove a truck full of tank munitions into a restaurant
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which was actually an officer's club on a syrian military installation. slick videos that are put together. he made his statement that he was going to do this. got in the truck and you see this massive detonation and killed everybody in the restaurant and, of course, himself. >> and al amriki means the american title. >> when these guys join they develop a nom du guerre. these all say i'm a libyan, i'm a tunisian, be careful not to draw conclusions that they are related. >> one guy who is self-radicalized through the internet shows the power of the propaganda, one who didn't find
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enchantment in america who came from bangladesh and the last kid, the one who killed himself, went abroad and learned about the world and wound up being radicalized while he was there. thanks, rick, for getting into the new threat of what is terrorism. >> more of your headlines right now. bowe bergdahl's former comrades opening up at a house hearing on the army sergeant's capture and the deal that secured his release. one said bergdahl was a deserter and committed ultimate betrayal putting his fellow soldiers at risk. bergdahl is currently recovering at a military hospital while the army investigates his disappearance. an 89-year-old philadelphia man has been arrested on nazi death camp extradition. johan briere was an armed guard at auschwitz during world war ii. german authorities say he was complicit in the killing of
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216,000 jews from hungary, czechoslovakia rand germany in 1944. he's lived in the u.s. since about the '50s. his extradition hearing is now set for august. more dangerous weather in the midwest. a twister touched down in south dakota taking aim at a small town briefly trapping some folks in their homes. the tornado ran right through the heart of wessington springs. extensive damage there, many homes and businesses literally torn apart. in another part of the state, looks like twin tornadoes from the same storm system. you can see the white vore investigation twisting around itself on the ground ripping apart what appears to be a barn. want to get straight to our meteorologist karen mcguinnes in for indra petersons. rare that we're seeing them in the first place and now we're seeing them again. >> it's made them explain for a couple of years. the double tornado that we saw
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in nebraska, let's go ahead and show you the video from several days ago. turned out to be a deadly tornado. this was so spectacular because meteorologists photographed it and it's quite unique to see the two cells together. here are the dynamics of that. a super cell. that's a large rotating thunderstorm, spawns one tornado. enough energy in the atmosphere so there's another tornado spawned so there's two tornadoes spawned. in north dakota there was one tornado with multiple vortices. it's unusual when you see it because it is spectacular. the little vortices can produce damage in themselves but it's the primary maine tornado that produced the damage. we see the flare-up of thunderstorms across the midwest, great lakes and not to
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be outdone. washington, d.c., a slight risk for this afternoon so watch for the potential for there to be delays at the international airport there. here's a strong to severe storm, about 41 million people in the line for severe weather today. mostly in the form of severe thunderstorms with hail, high winds and very heavy downpours. looking at minnesota and wisconsin and south dakota. they have seen 3 and 4 inches of rainfall already. back to you guys, chris and kate. >> thank you very much for that, karen. coming up next on "new day," we'll learning more about the special forces raid that led to the capture of the alleged benghazi mastermind including that he tried to fight back. live with new details. plus, it could be just what the doctor order for the u.s. world cup soccer team. an injury could force portugal's star player cristiano ronaldo to the bench, so what does this misfortune mean for team usa's chances? yeah, when it comes down to
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okay . welcome back to "new day." learning more details this
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morning about the operation that led to the capture of ahmed abu khatallah, the alleged mastermind of the attacks in benghazi. he was grabbed last weekend by special forces without a single shot being fired. right now he's on a slow boat ride back to the united states undergoing interrogation all along the way. let's go live to barbara starr at the pentagon for more. what are we learning this morning. >> reporter: this was a secret mission in the works for days. intelligence agents on the ground, commandos on the beach, but as our justice reporter evan perez has found out, in the end the bad guy really didn't have a chance. new details emerging about the capture of ahmed abu khatallah, a senior law enforcement official tells cnn u.s. special operations forces, including members of the fbi, arrived by sea over the weekend. the officials tell cnn khatallah
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was lured to a villa south of benghazi where he was apparently expecting someone else when u.s. forces swooped in sunday. we're told khatallah tried to wrestle with the troops. the key operative in ansar al sharia, the group the u.s. blames for the 2012 compound on the attack in benghazi was quickly apprehended and were told no shots fired, no one hurt. the official also tells cnn u.s. special forces did recover some form of media at the villa. investigators are analyzing it. after the capture, special forces whisked khatallah to the "uss new york" in the mediterranean where he's undergoing questioning. >> reporter: the main thing is to get the detainee, the subject, to a safe environment with a minimum of distractions. in this case in likely international waters. >> reporter: khatallah will be brought into the united states via helicopter once the ship is within range of the mainland, according to the official.
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it is unclear where he will be held before facing trial. and, of course, the big question for u.s. investigators will be what intelligence does he have and can he point them to any other perpetrators in those 2012 attacks on the u.s. compound in benghazi. kate? >> that might be your answer to my next question, barbara, because you've been able to pull out new details about the raid. quite honestly it's relatively little that we're learning of the specifics including the other special forces operations in recent past. are they giving you any reason why? >> you know, that's what's so fascinate begun this. the world knew more about the raid that got osama bin laden, a much bigger fish, than this guy. why is this one so secret? the pentagon saying nothing really officially. all the indications are we getting is it's all about the intelligence and the tactics that the commandos used on the ground. it seems pretty clear what is emerging behind the scenes. if they didn't have direct help on the ground, they at least had
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some intelligence from libyan sources on the ground, what they call human intelligence, something very sensitive that made them feel very confident they could pull this off. kate. >> need to protect those intelligence sources in order to continue to look for the other perpetrators of the benghazi mission attack. barbara, thank you so much. barbara starr live at the pentagon for us. >> sure. >> coming up on "new day," will he play or won't he? apparently only portugal star player, the hand some cristiano ronaldo knows for sure whether he'll suit up for the u.s. now, what will it mean if he didn't play? he had the ice bag on the knee. is this gamesmanship? is it cautionary? we have people on the inside who knows. stay with us. >> shelly sterling on offense trying to protect her people from being harassed or intimidated by her estranged husband over the sale of the l.a. clippers. what's going on there? when folks think about what they get from alaska,
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good to have you back with us here on "new day." a look at your headlines. president obama says he'll consult with congress but doesn't need their permission to take action against isis in iraq. president obama discussed options with top house and senate leaders but has not decided just how yet to help iraq through its latest crisis. calls are growing for iraqi prime minister nuri al maliki to step down for the belief he won't be able to end sectarian violence. more trouble for general motors after the release of an e-mail that warned of a second ignition switch defect back in 2005. a gm engineer told colleagues the switch in the chevy impala
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that she was driving popped out of the run position and caused the engine of that vehicle to shut down. she then urged a massive recall at the time, and gm didn't issue the recall of over 3 million vehicles until recently. the families of three missing israeli teenagers got quite a surprise visit, from '70s pop singer tony orlando. he tied three yellow ribbons to the tree outside one of the family's homes in israel. orlando famous for his south carolina "tie a yellow ribbon around the old oak tree." those three teens disappeared last week returning home from a jewish seminary last week. already won two cy young awards and now dodgers pitcher clayton kershaw has had a no-hitter on his resume. he struck out 15 colorado rockies, walked no one in the 8-0 win. almost had a perfect game in the seventh but missed it due to a throwing error by the shortstop hanley ramirez. this was kershaw's first no-hitter but the second of the
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entire mlb season this year. josh beckett, also a dodger, did it against the phillies last month. yes, i'm reveling in this. it's awesome. he is a stand-up guy. >> how many no-hitters are accomplished in a season? two have already happened. >> two already this season and both are dodgers. a near perfect game. >> why we celebrate them. >> and he was celebrating, as he should. >> thank you, michaela. >> stick with sports, bigger than sports. world cup is bigger than world sports, culture, and the big question now, especially if you're a fan of the usa and of course you are, is whether or not in the match against portugal the supposedly best player in the world may be out. he is cristiano ronaldo. he plays for portugal, and he has a big old ice bag on his left knee. gamesmanship, brinksmanship, or does he have a real problem.
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>> reporter: what's the latest? a nice set of thighs, shorts rolled up. >> i didn't even have to say it. >> ice bag on it. what do we make of it? >> i don't know if we should make much of the ice bag, another big one on his knee and left practice yesterday seven minutes early. he did the same thing before portugal played germany. he ended up playing in that match but the new development in this situation is roenlo's doctor says he needs to shut down and not play in the world cup the rest of the way or else he could risk a career-threatening injury. roenlo says he'll get the last word. he's probably going to end up playing on sunday. >> give us a little insight here. there's a theory afoot that the u.s. has a good shot or maybe better shot than they would otherwise because the germans spanked portugal so badly that their spirit may be broken. that's a little foreign to us here in terms of u.s. sport. usually you take a beating, you
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want to come back stronger. what's this about? >> well, we just saw that happen to spain. they got spanked by the netherlands, and what did they do, came out yesterday and laid an egg to chile? might be something to that. roenlo has a lot of criticism in the past about his play in the world cup, 2 goals in 11 matches. either way, chris, their spirit might be beaten and they might not have a 100% ronaldo out there who is the biggest weapon. can take over the game by themselves like a few people. argentina has messi and portugal has cristiano ronaldo, guys that can singlehandedly take over games in the world cup. we won't see them at 100% in the u.s. we should all be thoughtful of what ronaldo's injury, is and maybe send messages that they should sit this out and not risk career injury. >> it's about the long term. don't think about the short term. >> wouldn't want to do anything that would otherwise mar his
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physical perfection that i have to hear about at this table. >> gone two days with only images of him with the shirt off. >> let's talk about what happened in the tournament ma that was really impressive, referred to it a little there. chile, they came at it. going against the reigning champs, and it wound up being really such a shocker match. again, it's the world cup, reverberates and the significance of the whole country involved. tell us what happened. >> we're seeing video from these fans before the game, guys. these guys didn't have tickets and they were like, let's try to rush the stadium and got in through the media center. she is guys knocked down a couple of walls, throwing over big-screen televisions before security finally caught up to them. 85 chilean fans were detained and now they will be kicked out of brazil in the next 72 hours for trying to do that. either way, guys, getting kicked out. got in the stadium for a little bit.
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sure they are leaving brazil happy. chile beat spain 2-0. spain, the first world cup defending champions to be knocked out in their first two games. a very disappointing world cup for them. chile, on the other hand, celebrating moving on to the next round. i've got world cup fever, i'm sure you do, too. i'll watch all the games today once again. i can't wait. >> over and over again that soccer fans are like no other. >> yeah. >> you can't hold them back, not even fences and security can hold them back. >> real bigger than sport, captures a national identity in a way most other sports don't and i've learned something watching this world cup more than the others. used to be a little bit of a hater about the celebration, scored a goal, and they are so into it, and now i appreciate the game more, it's so hard to score, thanks, end, by the way, that i get why they celebrate so much. it's so hard to score in that game, and when you do, i think they should take more time to
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welcome back to "new day." this morning a new twist in the saga surrounding donald sterling and the los angeles clippers
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s.sterling now intimidating witnesses? cnn has learned that shelly sterling will appear in court to ask a judge to issue an order protecting witnesses from donald sterling and his legal team. let's talk more about this with mel robins, cnn legal commentator and analyst, and dominic romano, a friend of cnn and sports and entertainment attorney. thank you both so much. what do you think is going on here? i wonder who is being intimidated or who do they think is going to be intimidated, or is this a legal tactic? >> the story is bizarre and keeps getting stranger. according ing ting to allegati sterling's attorneys and sterling himself have been leaving messages to these doctors that determined that sterling was mentally incompass tutted that are threatening and disparaging, telling them to put their insurance carriers on notice and telling their attorneys that there's going to be a fight and the determination was improper, according to reports. >> is it likely to have an
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impact? do these doctors say that now they don't want to testify or have any part -- or be deposed in this suit? >> it might have a chilling effect and that's the problem. >> yeah, but it could also be completely unfounded, and it's a tactic to try to neutralize sterling. mel, weigh in on this. people involved in litigation have the benefit of lots of debt and law school. when you hear something like this, i think mel is going to intimidate my -- you have to show it or dismiss it. >> it's against the law, it's called dissuading or intimida intimidating witnesses saying you don't have my permission, a hipaa violation, not a big threat for a first-time violation. they can fine you for as little as 50 bucks and as much as, you know, 50,000. i think what he's doing is being annoying, harassing witnesses.
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it could have a chilling effect so shelly is just going to church -- church, which is becoming their church, the court. she's going to court, and she's basically saying rein him in. shut him up. tell him to stop harassing our witnesses. it's like a slap on the wrist, a small restraning order and they will move on. of course, what's happened, and this is the bigger story, he's trying to revoke the terms of the trust because he doesn't want her to be in charge of the family trust. >> well, that he can do, right? let's talk about that, domenic. always been a little complicated. the ownership of the franchise, that's the league's to give or take, but how he deals with his particular valued asset, that's up to him. >> exactly right. >> assuming it's a irrevocable trust. >> and assuming that the determination was indeed incorrect, but, again, these are reports. >> we know how that goes. you're on tv. it's obviously true.
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let's talk -- mel, i think you two are both on the same page on this one. the washington redskins. they have had their trademark protection withdrawn for being disparaging to native americans because of the mascot. what does this mean in the real world because this legal battle is clearly far from over? >> well, what it means in the real world is very simple. it means nothing with regard to whether or not they change the name. it's just symbolic and now you've got the federal government agency saying guys, redskins, very offensive term, derogatory term. we won't give you protection. a huge win for people who make counterfeit jerseys because now they are not going to be sued under some sort of federal trademark violation. they might be liable under virginia law because states offer some sort of protection for business marks, but, look, you know, this is a slow march towards what will probably happen at some point which is they will change the name.
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the owner is buckling down but does this ruling mean they will change the name? of course not. >> why do the owner seems so confident? why does dan snider seem so confident in his position, seen this story before and just hike last time it's not going to change ownership or the name? >> i think the key word is seem. i disagree that this is insignificant. this is a very different decision from the first one which was basically reversed on appeal on a technicality. look, there's a perfect storm going on. you've got 50 senators that have come out against this. you've got the president of the united states saying what he would do if he was the owner would be to change the name of the team and you've got public opinion starting to shift. the appeals court determined that 30% of native americans found this term a racial designation on the basis of skin color offensive, disparaging. >> but you know what they don't have, and this is why i disagree with you. they don't have an inside player. unlike the situation with sterling, you don't have -- you don't have a situation here
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where you've got somebody inside the nfl, a player, a sponsor, a coach, a major star that's been offended, that's championing something different happening. >> or the league. >> but you don't know that yet. >> it's only a matter of time. >> yes, that's true. >> it's only a matter of time before somebody wakes up and says it's wrong. it's wrong to use the "r" word just as long as it would be to use the "n" word, a racial designition to define a minority group and when someone speaks up, public opinion is already shifting on this, you're going to see a change here, and it will come probably sooner than you think. >> not hearing from the league is relevant. >> yes, hugely relevant. >> i've got to tell you, 30% is not an impressive number to me. >> this is big business, we're talking about merchandise. the nfl and redskins will have a very difficult time controlling that trademark, especially as you mentioned, products coming in from abroad, and that's going
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welcome back. as you know, i hope, a decorated u.s. marine has been jailed in mexico for more this two months, all for what he calls a mistaken left turn that sent him across the border. since then sergeant andrew tahmooressi has endured some of the worst abuse the mexican prison system has to offer, so bad it led him to try to kill himself. now he's got his third lawyer, maybe he's going to get a hearing soon. maybe things are looking up. we're very qualified in this because we don't know what's going on down there. we're joined by sergeant andrew tahmooressi's mother jill. jill, sorry to see you under these circumstances, but thank you for joining us to take the opportunity on "new day."
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>> thank you, chris. >> you did get a chance to see your son a little bit of a silver lining here. you got to spend some time with him. how did he seem, and how did you feel about it? >> it was bittersweet because when i saw him on friday he was once again without legal representation, so going into almost 90 days in mexico without any shred of evidence in his file to help support his innocence, that he unintentionally entered mexico so it was bittersweet in the sense that as a mother i felt like i had failed him twice. i had selected two attorneys that just could not provide the strategic level of defense required, but i was also encouraging him at the same time that i believed that with the help of phil dunn, a criminal defense attorney in california who this time helped me interview legal teams last wednesday and thursday in mexico, that i was confident that the third time was the
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cha charm. >> he's still in isolation, right? how do you feel that he is physically and emotionally because he is dealing with a significant pts? >> absolutely. he was in san diego and diagnosed with ptsd and, yes, he's not able to get therapy for his ptsd in mexico because they are not equipped to handle foreign combat associated ptsd. i will tell that you a pastor still visits him twice a week so he does get inspiration from his faith. however, legitimate psychological care is denied in the mexican prison system because they are not capable of providing that type of therapy. >> now, assuming that there is no strong proof that exists that suggests your son was there for nefarious or illegal reasons,
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gun-running or whatever the mexican authorities are suggesting at this point. this comes down to what the united states is doing reclaiming one of its citizens being unlawfully held, let alone a tech rated veteran. john kerry said they were helping. you got 123,000 signatures for a petition which means the executive should take notice of a situation. have you heard anything from the president's office? have you heard anything from the state department? >> i have not. i was responsible in following up on that platform, we the people that president obama established for the american people's voice, and did i reach the 100,000 signature threshold but that was may 30th, and i go on every morning, the first thing i do when i wake up, i go online and i've not received a response yet on that white petition site so that's frustrating. >> nothing from the state department either? >> no, except at the local level. they are supporting andrew's,
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you know, well-being needs at the local level. >> hillary clinton was interviewed, and she said she would be doing more than, that it's not enough just to have the local support there. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. i loved her statement that she would have been burning up the telephone wires from the beginning. >> so this is your opportunity. "new day" has a big reach here with cnn. what do you want to say first to secretary ker and the state department? >> please, please talk once again to the attorney general who has the ability to dismiss this case based on absolutely no grounds to continue holding andrew. please talk with them with jesus krom once again, and president obama if you could reach out to counterpart president nieto and help him understand that he's a decorating marine anguishing in
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his jail and he needs his freedom and liberation restored so he can have a productive life back in america. >> what does it mean to you that the u.s. government has not responded to your pleas when they have to be and know they are aware of the situation? >> well, i am still very grateful for the legislative branch. there are so many representatives. andrew will be visited this weekend by three, representative duncan hunter has just been leading the charge and demanding the release of tahmooressi so i remain hopeful just knowing that the legislative branch is being so supportive. >> and now, look, a part of this that's hard for to you talk about but i think it's just too important to ignore, how long do you think your son can last inside? he did not sound good when we spoke to him the way he discusses why he hurt himself was very troubling, his reason for it was a little irrational, as you know, not taking any kind of medicine. not kind of condition that gets better. i'm not trying to scare you.
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you know much more what's going on medically than i do. what's your concern about how long can he do it? >> as a nurse i know what anxiety disorders are like, and he's extremely anxious. he's in a foreign country and honestly he has no reason to believe he's not among the foreign enemy, so, yes, i'm absolutely concerned for him. there's a great urgency for him to be released so that he can get the care that -- that's requir required. i mean, he served honorably and with respect and i think the country needs to help get him home. >> you've been a responsible advocate for your son but the key word there is son. i know this is tearing you up as his mom. i know this is difficult for you. you can count on us, and there are others in the media as well, who have been trying to help. we're not going to let this story go away, miss tahmooressi. we promise you that. >> thank you so much, chris. i appreciate it and so does
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andrew. i'll let him know when he calls me this morning. >> stay in touch with us. we're here for you. >> thank you. >> all right. now we're going to stay on that story because until we have evidence that these allegations are sustainable this is someone being held for a bad reason and deserves our report. and other veterans in the news this morning to talk to you about. we have the situation in iraq and we have the world cup to talk about, so let's get to all of it right now. >> one of the thorniest decisions facing this country right new. >> maliki has to be convinced to retire. >> after a decade of war, the american people have had enough. >> ahmed abu khatallah undergoing questioning for his role in the attack. >> we want to know who was behind it. >> the intelligence that could save american lives. >> should not be able to desert your fellow americans without consequences. >> the main question in the bowe bergdahl controversy, is he a
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deserter? >> this is about somebody's service. the benefit of the doubt belongs to mr. bergdahl. >> good morning and welcome back to "new day." the crisis in iraq may lead, may lead, to a minimum wage in leadership there. the obama administration signalling this morning that prime minister nuri al maliki should go and that iraq needs new unifying leadership in place, this as isis militants and iraqi forces are reportedly continuing to fight for control of the country's largest oil refinery. we've got complete coverage for you at this hour. michelle kosinski is live at white house and also senior international correspondent nic robertson following developments from the ground. it's believed now that officials say maliki should go, that they don't believe he's the man that can lead this unification process politically in iraq what. more are you learning from the white house? >> right. this is starting to emerge now. i mean, you asked the administration directly that
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question, does al maliki need to go? does the u.s. have confidence in him, and they will not answer the question. they basically say, well, it is not for the u.s. to decide. that needs to be up to the iraqis, but you ask them virtually any question surrounding making a u.s. decision about what to do in iraq on time line, on details, and they make it sound like in their responses that something needs to happen first on the part of iraqis politically as well as militarily, so they are sort of saying it without saying it, but now there's some top u.s. officials are telling us, as well as top members of congress, that they feel al maliki needs to go. how is this going to happen? because the u.s. doesn't want to appear as though it's orchestrating a regime change there. it really does need to be the will of the iraqi people, so that's the political element of this that is happening behind the scenes well before obviously a u.s. decision on military action there, kate.
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>> it's very interesting which one needs to come first before the next step can take place. that's a huge question on the u.s. front. nic, from the ground in baghdad in iraq, how strong is maliki's hold on power right now? is this possibility even realistic that he would -- he would leave? >> he's got a strong grip on power and has sway over the military forces in the condition try. yesterday i was talking to a top politician here who told me he'd been in conversation with american officials here, and he said that those american officials told them that they believe maliki should go so i said, okay, how do you do that? this politician said it wasn't for him to be able to do it, and he's on the other side of the sectarian divide. i said, okay, what about those politicians in maliki's party? maliki's party just won the election here in the past month half. he said, look, those partitions
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are too afraid, are not strong enough. been marginalized enough and even in maliki's own party it doesn't seem like someone is going to couple and push him out so i said, okay, who is it going to be? he said the religious leaders, the shiia religious leaders in the country who stood up last week and called for men to come and join the fight, essentially supporting the iraqi army and supporting nuri al maliki so it doesn't seem that this call for maliki to step down is going to come any time soon. bottom line is he is essentially accused of fermenting the sectarian situation that led to all this. on top of that his actions since the crisis began have further alienated the sunnis here so the wide consideration and belief here is that maliki cannot be part of any discussions that go further forward because he can't make the compromises necessary. politically even people on the other side of the line can't be seen dealing with him, kate. >> seems to be a complete lack of trust there at the very
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least, nic, and what nic is saying, michelle, does not sound like any sort of change is going to be coming any time soon, but it sure seems from the u.s. angle that there are growing and growing calls for some kind of immediate action from the united states. is there anything more that you think that the united states can do to try to bring about this change without looking like they are orchestrating a regime change? >> well, it's the pressure behind the scenes. we know the vice president called and spoke to maliki as well as another top u.s. official yesterday. look at iraq. they are calling for u.s. air strikes, asking the u.s. repeatedly to help them more militarily than the u.s. has already done over the last year. now it's reached this crisis point, so it comes to the point where if they want the help and they seem to need that help enough and the u.s. is saying there needs to be these conditions met first, it will have to come to a change at some point. i mean, there has to be some
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compromise there. apparently before the u.s. will act in that way. that's not to say that the u.s. isn't going to continue to help iraq militarily with the training, the equipment and to increase that, but if there is something dramatic where the u.s. is going to step in there and take military action or do something substantial or be in that there for some kind of longer term, obviously something needs to change on the part of the iraqi government. >> sure doesn't sound yet like the administration is ready to come out publicly to call for maliki's ouster. before i let you guys go, michelle, let me ask you about the next step from the part of the white house. the president met with the four top congressional leaders yesterday. coming out of that meeting on iraq congressional leaders, seemed to be consensus where there rarely is, said he would keep congress informed and keep them posted about what he does, but that the president doesn't think that the actions he's going to take are going to need congressional approval. what do you think that means? >> right, that's based on the
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war resolution and the powers that exist by law. doesn't have to ask congress for this right now and congress agrees with that. if there were to be something like air strikes over iraq, kate. >> michelle kosinski at the white house and nic robertson on the ground in baghdad, thanks, guys, thanks so much. >> it's almost worth googling the war pours act, declaring war versus making war and understand what's going on, the relationship between congress and president when it comes to these types of military actions. you'll be surprised by what you see. we're following up details this morning about a different story involving the military, the special forces operation that captured the alleged mastermind of benghazi. right now ahmed abu khatallah is being interrogated on a navy ship as it makes its way slowly back to the u.s., and i emphasize slowly, barbara, because they want all the time they can get with him before he gets back to the states and maybe some rights set in.
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fair assumption? >> reporter: a slow boat to justice indeed but justice the u.s. says there will be for ahmed abu khatallah. a senior law enforcement official now telling our own justice reporter evan perez that it was u.s. commandos along with the fbi that over the weekend actually got to the libyan coast by sea to set off this entire operation to get khatallah, that he was lured to a villa near benghazi, south of benghazi along the coast line, and that's when special operations commandos and the fbi swooped in on him. at the end of the day he basically is taken with no shots fired, nobody heard, no force. this official telling evan perez that khatallah tried to wrestle the troops a little bit but look, they very quickly subdued him. yes, he's on board the "uss new york" making its way across the mediterranean, across the
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atlantic. eventually, you know, i think there will be logistics involved here. he'll be put on a helicopter and flown into the united states proper, but they want him on that ship as long as possible so they can interrogate him. they got some media, not saying what kind in the raid. they want to see what intelligence there is. they want to know what abu khatallah may know about additional perpetrators involved in the 2012 attack in benghazi. they want to know what he knows. chris, kate. >> barbara starr, barbara, thank you so much. in texas, a really interesting story. governor rick perry is taking the offensive to deal with a flood of undocumented immigrants. the state beefing up its security with the so-called surge at the texas-mexico border. >> perry says they can't afford to wait for washington to address the border crisis. what will this mean? let's have cnn's rosa flores here with more. look, you've been looking into this story the right way.
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where are we going to send them? they want to repatriate them, send them back home. talking about mexico where there's great dialogue and mechanisms in place. you went to see what happens in honduras and countries like that. what does this mean in terms of the calculation if this gets better or worse. >> from the side of texas it means they want to secure the border and like you just mentioned earlier, they are saying we can't wait for washington. can't wait for that to happen and we need to do something and, of course, texas has a wallet the size of texas. they are ready to say, okay. we are planning to -- to spend $1.3 million a week to flood the border with law enforcement to make sure that it's secure. now, it's important to look at numbers because we've been talking about the 60,000 unaccompanied minors that are expected to make it to the u.s. i tloo i looked it up this morning according to the u.s. customs and border protection, the
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impact on texas in particular. in total 47,000 in the southwest region from texas, from the area i grew up in south texas in the rio grand valley. that number is 33,000. so that's the flood that they are talking about, that they are dealing, and one important thing to note is that the -- that the routes to smuggle people are the same routes that are used to smuggle arms, to smuggle drugs and that is the worry on the side of texas, that not only are we seeing the smuggling of humans but that also means an increase in crime. >> rosa, you talk about texas obviously has a huge wallet. they will be flooding the border, but what does that mean in terms of resources? is perry telling us? >> they only mentioned they will be increasing law enforcement and manpower and technology but they don't go into all of the details. it's important to know that they have tried this before and texas says that it has worked. when they flood the border with resources, it just works. there's less illegal activity
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along the border. >> isn't there also a concern that you flood that border but there's still porous borders along other states so that's pushing those problems to those other states. >> absolutely, absolutely, and i can tell you because i grew up along the border, two miles from the international bridge, and it's never been this bad. not only when you see the -- the influx of people coming into the united states but the crime along the border. i talk to people there all the time. my family is there. there's a huge concern, and so i can see why the state texas would come out and say, okay, we need to do something. >> rosa, thank you so much. keeping our eye on this story. especially since they need to figure out what they will do with all the people here right now. >> getting ignored too much. you have these kids now. got here the wrong way. have to figure out what to do but you have to take care of them. the allegations about the conditions are true, very un-american what's going on. >> and there's u.s. policy so there's a lot of policy. have you to follow u.s. law and
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according to u.s. law each individual immigrant, if they are unaccompanied, and if they are minors, by law you've got to look at their individual cases because they could be persecute federal they go back to their home country. >> rosa, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> nine minutes after the hour. other headlines right now. two texas men are in custody this morning. they are charged with conspiring to provide material support to terrorists. federal agents say they planned to travel to the middle east and africa to wage jihad. rahatul chann is accused of attempting to join an al qaeda-linked terror group in somalia and michael todd wolfe tried to join radical groups in syria. and 63-year-old murder john rafael henry was executed on wednesday. the executions were the first since a botched lethal injection in oklahoma in april. henry, denied a stay of execution by the supreme court, was convicted in the 1985
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stabbing deaths of his wife and her 5-year-old son. the other lethal injections took place in missouri and georgia. another dangerous tornado touching down in the midwest, this time taking aim at a small town in south dakota. this damage is in wessington springs where many homes and businesses were destroyed. some people were even briefly trapped in their homes. in another part of the state, what looks like another set of twin tornadoes from the same storm system. you can see the white vortex twisting around itself on the ground and ripping apart building structures there. i mean, we've seen some very severe weather this year and even this week alone. we're two days away from summer starting, and this is the intense weather we've been getting. >> it's a mess. >> yeah, it is. >> different type of tornado going on of the legal variety, the donald sterling sag a. here's new developments for you. cnn has learned that the estranged wife in the situation shelly, she's going to head to court today to seek an order
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protecting witnesses from possible intimidation by donald. what does this mean. the source tells cnn there's clear indications of threatening behavior coming from sterling. put someone on the story, and his name is brian todd joining us from washington. what's going on here? is this just a tactic? what do we make of it? >> could be something serious. we'll find out later today when the two sides go to court. we're told that shelly sterling's attorneys will ask a probate judge protecting witnesses from donald sterling having to do with a trial coming up on july 7. that trial will determine whether shelly sterling is the sole trustee and if it is found she does then she will be able to sell the l.a. clippers on her own. this trial, chris, is going to be all about donald sterling's mental condition, and three doctors have filed opinions in
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court last week staying donald sterling lacks the mental capacity to make decisions on the l.a. clippers. we asked our source if there were specific threats, specific indications donald sterling's side gave that were intimidating. it was said this is not a case of goons or higher guns being involved but said, quote, there's clear indications of threatening behavior. could not get immediate contact from donald sterling's attorneys. >> starting to make a little bit more sense because understanding the law involved, he's got a trust set up that holds the asset. >> right. >> you would think he was probably in charge of that, if it's what's called an irrevocable trust. shelly is saying i'm the trustee, i control it which means donald can't. how can donald not do it? that means he must not be able to and that's where the doctors come in to say he's not compete competent. he can't make this thing so this would be to try to step him from testifying in that regard. what do we know about what
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doctors say about his mental condition? >> some of the papers were pretty striking. three doctors said he was mentally unfit to own or run the team. in tests sterling gave him, sterling was unaware of what season of the year it was, unable to spell the word world background and had difficulty drawing a clock, another said he had symptoms consistent with early alzheimer's disease. these are the best opinions money can buy and they are emphatic he's not mentally incapacitated. this trial starting on july 7 is all about that, chris, and if the judge finds in favor of shelly sterling, then this sale will go through but there's also indications from steve ballmer's side he won't wait around forever for all of this to be involved. he's starting to get a little impatient. >> an interesting dynamic as well. brian todd, thanks very much for the reporting and having a huge cuts of the country now wondering if they have early alzheimer's because it's difficult to spell world backwards quickly. >> sure. >> i saw you trying to do it.
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>> brian is like kate can't do it anyway. coming up next on "new day," two weeks after his release army sergeant bowe bergdahl has not spent with his family. remember, he spent five years cut off from everyone. what's going on? a former military psychiatrist is here to weigh in? and inside politics for you. brett favre, why is the former green bay packer shilling for politicians in mississippi? well, he is from mississippi. we'll take a look. nice beard. and if i tap my geico app here i can pay my bill. tap it here, digital insurance id card. and tap it here, boom, roadside assistance. on'tday ooklay, it's axwellmay. the igpay? otallytay. take an icturepay! onephay, onephay! really, pig latin? [ male announcer ] geico. anywhere, anytime. just an aptay away on the geico appay.
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welcome back to "new day." bowe bergdahl has received medical care and psychological help, that is to be expected, but he's not asked to see or even speak to his family. now is that unusual? army officials say it's bergdahl's choice and he hasn't chosen to. joining us this morning for perspective is cnn's ed lavandera and the chief clinical overs for washington, d.c.'s department of behavioral health and a former military psychiatrist. i thank you both for joining us. ed, you're on the ground there. what is the word about why bowe bergdahl hasn't chosen to see his family? >> well, it's been really hard to figure out exactly why other than what the army officials who are around him have told us and that is that the family is a
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very integral part of that reintegration process that the army has talked about so much with -- with bowe bergdahl, and they have made it clear that it's his choice, the moment they want to call them the phone call can be made and the reunion arranged. not exactly clear why that hasn't happened because we haven't heard from bowe bergdahl at all. >> give us some guidance here because there's going to be two suggestions, one is he doesn't like his family. other one is that this is a sensitive thing and the timing and the reintegration is not as simple as it will seem to us who haven't gone through it. what's your take? >> good morning. it is not clear why he doesn't want to see his family, but what we do know is that he was in captivity by himself for five years in very difficult conditions. he was very fragile psychologically before he was taken captive, and looking at other prisoners of war a whole
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constellation of reasons that they may have reintegrating with the family so we don't know specifically about sergeant bergdahl but look the at other prisoners of war from vietnam and other conflicts we know that going back to the family is difficult. the other thing that's important to remember is unlike vietnam prisoners of war, korean prisoners of war, sergeant bergdahl was by himself and apparently kept in the dark for long periods of time, perhaps tortured, so these are very difficult circumstance and, again, it was a long captivity. >> it may not be about his inclination. it could be about his capacity and the timing here will be important. >> it could be about his psychiatric state. according to the reports he was hearing voices before he went and deployed, and he had some what appears to be delusional material. now i say this just based on his writings. i haven't interviewed him, but if indeed he was delusional before he could still be
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suffering from some of those issues. >> certainly wouldn't have made it better, that's for sure. ed, a couple of nuts and bolts questions. do we know if the family is on the ground and whether he's met with anyone else from his personal life? >> reporter: as far as we know, been trying to figure out if he's talked to friends, childhood friends that he had. we've not heard of any kind of communication with anyone, and his family has real kind of shut down since the day after he was freed in afghanistan. in fact, they have gone out of their way to say that what we thought we were going to be told and had been told by various military officials, that the bergdahl parents would be heading down to san antonio as soon as bowe bergdahl was making his way there, but then they kind of turned that off and said they wouldn't be making their travel plans public. >> a big part of the situation is this puzzle surrounding the circumstances of his departure and eventual capture. i want to play you some sound right now and get your take, doctor, on what this could mean
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and whether or not we trust the sound at all. this is from one of the platoon mates of bowe bergdahl about his disposition in terms of what the mission was there. play the sound. >> and it didn't take long for bergdahl to start voicing his disagreements with the way the missions were being led, didn't understand why we were doing more humanitarian missions instead of hunting the taliban. >> so now, ed, we had been led to believe that bowe was questioning the mission in terms of whether or not the u.s. should have been there fighting in the first place. this guy, this veteran is saying he actually wanted to do more fighting, wanted blood lust. does this square with the other reporting done on this? >> very different from the way his family, family and friends are the people i've communicated with the most over the last five years since we first started covering this five years ago. it's always been framed from his family friends that he was very sympathetic to the afghan people, that he was there wanting to help them, but perhaps through the course of
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his time there, not on the ground for very long, perhaps he had seen things that made him change his views. i think what those soldiers are saying has been very different from what family and friends, many of them who have received e-mails or who had heard communications between bowe and his parent leading up to him being captured, so, you know, i think this is what adds to all of this confusion is to what exactly is going on here because, again, we haven't heard from bowe or haven't been given any kind of version of event that he's told investigators. >> we're giving people the information as we can as you vet it. you can't come to a conclusion until you know what has been found from his side of this story and we don't have, what we do have is a developing sense of a clear disorder, anxiety, unusual stress on this soldier is this something that they should have known there? as a former military
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psychiatrist, shouldn't they have been more aware of this kid, instead of seeing him as being eccentric? doesn't he seem to be displaying that he was more than stressed out. >> in retrospect there's often fb a lot of red flags and what we do know is he was given a training discharge from the coast guard, apparently for psychological reasons, and so he should have been flagged and he probably was and probably received a waiver to join the military. remember at the time he joined, we were struggling to bring enough troops in, and so it is likely that he got in when he really shouldn't have. having said that, it's easy to look back in retrospect and there's a lot of people just like him who probably came in and did fine, but he clearly didn't. >> well, you know what, you make an important point, doctor, and something else that this story raises awareness to and you've covered it a lot.
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a lot of young men and women are in the exact same situation as bergdahl and it raises the question are we doing our best to take care of these kids to deal with the stress they experience there and what they bring back home and i think bowe bergdahl's story will wind up speaking to that as much as everything else before it's all over. doctor thank you very much and, ed, thank you so much for being on top of it. >> coming up next on "new day" is brett favre getting political? coming up why the former green bay packer star is cutting ads now for police, and also ahead on "new day" soccer star cristiano ronaldo limped off the practice field for the second time in the world cup. will he be able to play against the u.s. this weekend and what does it mean for our prospects coming up. i'm m-a-r-y and i have copd.
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welcome back. it is 7:30 on the nose. let's take a look at your headlines at this hour. the obama administration is suggesting iraqi prime minister nuri al maliki should step down in an effort to curb sectarian violence there. meantime, the president has told congressional leaders he'll keep them in the loop about the ongoing crisis but doesn't need their blessing to take action. they discuss options and the president hasn't decided just yet how he'll respond. the number of veterans waiting at least 30 days to see a doctor has more than doubled than what was first reported. about 10% of vets have to deal with the delay up from initial estimates of 4%. the updated figures are in a new
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report due out today. the acting v.a. secretary says the increase is probably because more accurate data is now being reported after widespread manipulation of wait times was exposed. scientists have found a new clue that could reduce the risk of heart attacks and strokes. researchers discovered that patients with mutations that break a gene the body uses to make fat particles have a 40% reduction in their risk of coronary heart disease. these findings suggest a new strategy in developing new drugs against heart disease. again, number one killer of men and women. one in four people have heart disease so this is a big finding. >> especially when there's so much we can do ourselves to prevent it and don't. >> time for "inside politics" on "new day" with mr. john king. a lot going on out there, my friend. take us through it. >> it is a busy day. kate, chris, good morning. let's go inside politics to share the reporting.
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let's start with what michaela was talking about, the president's sober choices about iraq. the administration thinks maliki should go and is pondering air strikes and as washington debates this seems like we're relitigating 2003 more than talking about the president's choices now in part because a lot of the bush officials who are involved in the iraq war to begin with coming forward including dick cheney, talked about this yesterday morning, wrote an op-ed in the "wall street journal" criticizing president obama saying essentially president obama had lost iraq but came up at the white house briefing yesterday, jay carney's last day. listen here. >> rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many talking about the situation in iraq and the middle east. >> which president was he talking about? >> i believe -- >> a little deadpan jay carney there trying to turn it back on george w. bush and dick cheney was on megyn kelly's show on fox news and put the question to him. why should people listen to you,
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many think you are the architect of a war that cost $1 trillion, the cost up to 2 drill crop and dick cheney said, no, he's still right. >> no, i fundamentally disagree, megyn. we had a situation where after 9/11 we were concerned about a follow-on attack that would have involved not just airline tickets and box cutters as the weapons but rather something far deadlier, perhaps even a nuclear weapon. >> is this helpful? does it help the country? does it help the president and washington and more importantly the country which is very reluctant to do anything, sort through what the president should do here when we're relitigateing? did >> doesn't bring any clarity to the debate but certainly helps the administration. you've got to wonder if the cheneys are on the obama payroll, you know. >> no. >> i'm thinking -- >> i'm not wondering if they are on the obama payroll. this is like an in kind
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contribution to the administration to have the cheneys back on the scene and a lot of other proponents of the iraq war, but this really does klute cloud the debate. this is a different debate. it isn't the same debate as we were having in 2003 about whether to invade iraq, a much more nuanced discussion. nobody is talking about a new invasion. nobody is talking about boots on the ground so i do think it actually clouds and makes it more difficult to understand the choices that are in play here. >> and the administration's perspective is the president brought down, the congressional leadership, gott god forbid they don't get in the room more often. democrats and republicans there to have a conversation with the president. everyone left saying it was a fruitful discussion. the republicans seemed a little prickly, my word, not theirs, the president saying i'm commander in chief and have the authority to do whatever they want to do. a debate within the administration, they want maliki to do, trying to do it through diplomacy and the clock is ticking as isis moves. >> they feel like maliki has
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cracked down and hasn't brought in sort of all the warring factions, the sunnis and they very much want him to go so there's disagreement in the white house and disagreement amongst republicans as to what to do, sort of a fight there between the cheney wing and the rand paul wing, and i think within that whole debate then you have americans there. when you look at way obama has done with foreign policy, tend to agree what he's done line by line but overall he hasn't projected american leadership. the question is how do you project american leadership without boots on the ground at this point, what does that look like? >> a and at the moment a government they fundamentally do not trust. let's bring it home to domestic politics. we always ask who might challenge hillary clinton in the democratic primaries and one of the names that comes up from time to time is the former
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governor schweitzer. he's in a profile in "fashion journal." she eats chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee. for a long time she was supporter of some pretty tough tactics that a lot of liberals criticized, the nsa and cia tactics and is now a critic and here's what was said about dianne feinstein. she was the woman standing under the streetlight with her dress pulled all the way over her knees and now she says i'm a nun when it comes to this spying. maybe that's the wrong metaphor but she was all in. there's a democrat saying something about women. i think he figured it out himself. could have found a better metaphor to make the point and the report calls him back on election nuclear a week or so, when eric cantor, the republican house majority lost and here's what he said about eric cantor. if you're a regular person you turn on the tv and saw eric cantor talking, i would say i'm fine with pay people but my gaydar is 60%, 70% but he's not,
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i think, so i don't know. again, i'm accepting. we like frank people in our politics, funny people in our politics. are those presidential -- let me ask is that way. >> my friend marin makes this point, that people like him because they find his candor refreshing, but the reason most politicians are more calculating than this is because when you never know what's going to come out of somebody's mouth, that's pretty dangerous. that's a pretty dangerous place to be as a politician and you do end up saying some things that are pretty off color. reminds me of when i had to teach my 3-year-old the difference between positive and negative attention. it's not -- it's not clear that he knows the difference. >> maybe you need to spend more time with brian schweitzer. >> seems to be a figment of brian schweitzer's own imagination, the idea that he's the progressive alternative to hillary clinton. if you talk to progressives they don't mention brian schweitzer or his bolo ties and i think
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this goes to show that cantor -- maybe this is the montana folksy way but it certainly doesn't fly certainly well. won't fly with progressives. >> big runoff election in mississippi, babcock, a republican senator in a runoff now. most people expect his tea party challenger to beat him because in a low turnout runoff those with passion come out. let's consider it's the fourth quarter and ed cochran is down a couple of points, what do you want? mississippi's favorite son, brett favre. >> when it comes to our state's future, trust me, mississippi can win and win back with ed cochran as our strong voice in washington. >> let's go. >> this is the establishment riding to thad cochran's rescue. the chamber of commerce trying to prop him up in the runoff and thad cochran much more than chris mcdaniel needs to expand the electorate from the runoff.
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needs to get attention of people who may not be regular republican primary voters because, you know, mcdaniel can pretty much count on his hard core republican base voters to come to the polls so the chamber here is throwing a hail mary trying to get the attention of regular mississipians and getting them to vote in the runoff. >> and bring in the guy who endorses wrangler jean and that looks like a wranglers jeans commercial tlal with him on the truck. i don't know. we've talked about this. skept calf endorsements in general and i'm not sure this will matter. i'm not sure brett favre, folks like what he's done on the football field. i don't think they will necessarily take his advice that thod cochran will be good for education and good for mississippi. >> better to try that than to put another politician on the air. >> better that than another politician on the air. thanks for coming. what do you think about that, mr. cuomo? a lot of experience in politics. like the beard on brett favre.
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>> i was surprised. made him look completely not like brett favre. had to be done. >> i think when you get a local hero which he certainly is to come out, it helps you, especially for politicians, because people have such low opinions of politicians and high opinions of their sports stars. i don't know how it could hurt the guy. >> i don't think it could hurt thad cochran. >> maybe republicans should have had thad cochran run. >> isn't that a novel idea. >> maybe that's what the beard is telling us, i don't know. >> i like the beard. looks like wolf blitzer to me. >> a little wolf blitzer-esque. good morning, wolf. going to try to do this at least once a week. coming up on "news day." will he or won't he play? soccer's biggest star may be sidelined in the world cup, and it could help the united states. we're going to take a look at it and get the take from greg wallace. (vo) after 50 years of designing
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so-called group of death? the man to talk with us is the editor-in-chief greg lalas is here with more on the world cup. that's the big question. seen the eyes on the knee and the limping and hear there's maybe an injury going into the world cup, et cetera, et cetera. bottom line, is he in? is he out? what are you hearing in. >> right now we don't know. that's the biggest issue. we wish we knew. >> when will we know? >> probably not until an hour before kickoff. >> what's the chance he's fakeing? is there gamesmanship? >> i don't think it's faking. just came out of the long season with real madrid limping. he's played so many games over the last year that his body basically is starting to break down. his doctor back in portugal in fact said he needs to stop or he'll cause damage and needs two months off. >> which begs the question. what is this, is this a chronic
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with a bum knee or is on the verge of blowing a tendon? >> a career ending injury? >> i don't think he's on the verge of blowing out his northeast. right now the doctor says there's pressure on his patella basically which could cause some damage. i'm not a doctor so i really don't know. >> is he that much of a game changer? >> yes, i especially on the portuguese team. when they get the ball first thing they do is look for cristiano ronaldo. he and lionel messi, the great players where you try to do everything you can to isolate them against somebody else, and then let him go and do his thing and he connection cute that way. >> what do you make of this theory that we're hearing, it's foreign to the idea of sport in the u.s. usually you get beat in a sport, football, soccer is a sport but like the big sport that we folks, you come back stronger than ever. what do you make of the theory that the germans beat them down so badly that portugal may not have the will to fight?
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>> i think that we do see a difference between what happens here and in the united states. in major league, soccer, for example, the way things are set up, which i love, it's more competitive. no matter how far down you, are you always feel like have you a chance and part of that is also mentality. >> right. >> i think in europe, in particular, there's a sense of you know what, everything is going against us so why are we trying so hard? >> so it's real? >> it can affect the whole thing? >> there's a sense of source of realism -- they would call it realism and they would call what we have is idealism in a way. >> the u.s. coach klinsmann says the u.s.' worst nightmare is a mad ronaldo. if he does play, the team is down. they lost to germany. they could come back with a vengeance. >> i think we should take everything the coach says and mean the opposite. >> we've seen that before. >> a mad ronaldo is not somebody you'd want to poke anymore in
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this case. not just ronaldo, pepe, coentrao, he's out as well. >> key defensive guys out for the u.s. as well. if altidore's hammy is no good he can't come out. >> it sounds like altidore won't go but chris wondolowski could step in there and do a very good job against a defense on portugal that's not always alert to what's happening. >> what are our chances? you were 50/50 in our first match. where are you right now? >> our chances of getting out of this group are very good now. >> in this match. >> in this match in portugal, 65/35 for the u.s. >> and who are the names we'll be talking about? >> oh, here we go, the names we have to talk about. i think that we're going to be talking about, in this case, again, clint dempsey. >> okay. >> mainly because he's coming into this one with a nasal fracture and all the talk about whether he with breathe through his nose, wearing a mask and all that and i think he'll score another goal. >> don't sleep on brooks. >> there's one, and i think the
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other player in this game that's so vital is kyle beckerman, a midfielder for real salt lake, one of the most incredible players to watch because he's got huge dread locks and fly all over the place when playing. his defensive ability in the midfield is the kind of thing that will slow down the two creative guys who are not cristiano ronaldo for portugal, mainly-monthio, and if they can slow him down. >> go u.s. >> if they win this game. >> they are through. >> this group of death. >> they are alive. >> easy, easy, easy. >> this is why they hate us. >> american exceptionalism. >> reminds us of american exception exceptionalism. >> christiano is there shaving
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good morning and welcome once again to "new day." it's june 19th, 8:00 in the east. growing calls for political change and leadership in iraq as fighting raging on there. the obama administration is signaling now this morning the prime minister nuri al maliki should go and that iraq needs new unifying leadership to defuse the crisis. isis militants and iraqi forces are reportedly locked in a fight for control of the country's largest oil refinery, and now the militant group's influence may be spreading to the united
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states. two men have been arrested on terror charges in texas. one of them accused of being interested in joining isis. cnn is covering this story like no one else can. let's begin at the white house once again with white house correspondent michelle cosinsky. good morning. >> the white house won't answer that question. does al maliki need to go, and would it be better if he did. in response to virtually every other question they tend to put it on the iraqis saying they need to step up militarily as well as militarily. the u.s. action won't work unless there's that inclusive political framework in place so obviously the white house doesn't want to be publicly calling for a regime change here but some are now doing that. senior u.s. officials say the administration thinks iraqi prime minister nuri al maliki has to go if the country hopes to unify and defeat isis. it's a sentiment shared on capitol hill. >> maliki has to be convinced that it is in the greater
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interests of his country to retire and to, for this newly elected government to put together a new government, because that's the one place where iran can be of help if they want to. >> reporter: america's four top lawmakers called to the white house on one of the thorniest decisions facing this country right now. what to do or not about iraq. but this was not, it turns out, a session for the president to lay each option on the table and start choosing but more an assessment. nancy pelosi called it informative, interesting. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell less enthused. "the president briefed us on the approach he's taking toward developing a strategy." on a day one analyst called iraq possibly the worst of both worlds, a deep division into two terrorist states, one dominated by al qaeda, the other by iran. the administration had to grapple with potential outcomes of u.s. action there, and some
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fierce words at home. former vice president dick cheney in cowboy hat with daughter liz. >> empty threats, meaningless red lines, leading from behind and engagement with rogue regimes have put america on a path of decline. >> reporter: on the same day they lunkd a new pack and wrote an op-ed piece, rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many." to which the administration now replies -- >> which president was he talking about? >> reporter: other democrats have not been so oblique in that reference calling out cheney himself. >> if there's one thing this country does not need is that we should be taking advice from dick cheney on wars. >> reporter: iraqis have been asking for help, asking for air strikes but one thing the white house will say is that this ongoing decision-making process will only be done through the lens of protecting america's national security interests. chris?
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>> michelle, thank you very much. now we want to go to the two texas men charged with conspiring to aid terrorists overseas. according to federal officials, both of the men had plans to travel overseas and join militant groups. one is accused of wanting to join isis. cnn's ed lavandera is in dallas with more. ed, what do we know about this? >> good morning, chris. both of these men have been charged separately. they don't appear to have been working together, but it highlights a disturbing trend in what's going on in this region. these two men americans arrested in texas are charged with supporting terrorist groups in syria and somalia. s.w.a.t. team surrounded 23-year-old rahatul khan's home in austin. according to a criminal complaint khan used internet chat rooms to spot and assess potential recruits for committing violent jihad overseas. michael todd wolfe, also 23 was arrested at houston's george
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h.w. bush airport before flying. wolfe referred to al qaeda representatives as righteous brothers, according to the criminal complaint, even showing an undercover fbi agent a youtube video of foreign fighters in syria. wolfe discussed which militant group he should join including the brutal islamist group isis, currently staging an offensive against iraq. >> allahu akbar. >> reporter: he told officers he'd been physically preparing to join jihad practicing martial arts, running and cross-fit, the competitive sport which uses military style techtechniques. >> this is something going on since the early 2000s. people from america have gone on to terrorist karpz ovcamps over. sites like youtube can be used to recruit people in the united states easily.
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before, they were out of reach. >> reporter: analysts believe as many as 100 american citizens have made the trek to fight in syria. last month an american suicide bomber who grew up in florida set off a massive truck woman at a syrian military checkpoint. syrian jihadist tweeted several photos of the american before he took his life with bombs strapped to his chest. social media has now become one of the many ways al qaeda recruits westerners to fight alongside radical islamists. >> all right, our thanks to ed lavandera there. how is this being done and what are we doing to stop it? let's bring in someone who knows, philip mudd, senior fellow at the america foundation, former cia counterterrorism official. mr. mudd, thank you for joining us as always. >> good morning. >> it used to be we were worried about what was happening in prisons with an extreme brand of
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wah wahabism, but in the international age there's a whole new wave of reach for bad guys to turn americans against america or just to include them in the fight. tell us what we know. >> when you look at what we've seen in terms of extremism and terrorism in the united states, three quick phases. after 911, when i was at cia we had al qaeda guys sent from pakistan. few years later, saudi arabia, yellen and somalia, become centers of terrorism. starting i'm going to guess in about 2008 we see kids or young people like what we just saw in texas who say via youtube, via friends of theirs, i'm not part of the group but i want to join up because i believe in the fight and i want to go protect women and children. what's happening now is that syria is serving as an accelerant to expand the pool of the extremists who want to go fight. it's a magnet for him. >> is this a real threat? is the media overhyping it or are we dealing with home grown
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terrorism? >> no, this is a significant threat, because in my world, let's say you get 100 kids go over, 200 kids go over. couple things are going to happen. one, even if 20% of them comes back home, the priority for the fbi and state and local police is that you cannot miss one of them if you have 98% success, that's not good enough because you'll get another boston, but what are the tragedies here not only for the kids but for their families is most of them believe it or not are going to come home in a box or they're going to die on the battlefield. they'll fight with isis and die in a trench. >> it's not easy to find these guys, as i understand it, because you're not the one looking for them. this is local law enforcement. why is it that way and how do we deal with the coordination without slowing down the process of finding these guys? >> boy, this one's really tough. let me give you a contrast between 2001 and 2014. the problem with al qaeda was that it's a strategically powerful group with a global reach but it's a good target for
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intelligence because you know where the nerve center is. you know where to go with the satellites and human informants. you if you have young people in dallas, houston, l.a., sit in a basement how to put together an explosive device and radicaled by something they saw something on youtube, those guys have less capability than the guys we chased 13 years ago but they're harder to find because they're not connected to a broader network. >> so how do we stop this? >> one of the ways you stop it is first cooperation with foreign security services in places like turkey and jordan. we need people on the border who say every time i see somebody cross that border, i'm going to collect information on them. for example, biometric information, things like fingerprints. we also need help from families and communities across america. they're going to see people 17, 20, 23 years old who separate out from the community and who start talking about extremism. it's not people in groups i
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worry about. it's people who separate out. at that point, somebody needs to make a phone call before there's a federal violation of terrorist statutes and say there's a bad kid, we need to talk to him >> when the guy says to his wife i'm getting into cross-fit because i want to get in good shape so i can fight jihad, say something about it. don't just write him off as another dumb husband >> right, say something, that's correct. most of these situations there's a misunderstanding among a lot of your viewers, the internet is an accelerant for radicals. it is not usually the cause. human beings don't take acts like this without another human being who persuades them, an older brother figure, somebody they meet on the internet, a husband, a wife who persuades them that going down a path of extremism is okay. then they start looking at the internet and saying hey, i'm seeing kids die. i've got to go do something about it. those human beings in that sort of cycle of terrorism have to make a phone call. >> another muddy situation i need to you help me with, what is going on in iraq with isis?
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we're having some trouble getting traction on this story, getting americans to pay attention, because there are no americans fighting it right now. the concern is that if isis gets into control and gets more reach, there's no reason they couldn't extend their fight here at home. is that a fair point? or am i exaggerating the significance of what's happening there? >> i'd worry more about syria right now than i would about iraq, for the simple reason that the jihadists, the militants in iraq are spending more time finding government troops, fighting government troops than they are thinking about an attack in new york city. let me give you one quick thing to understand about threats to the united states. when terrorist groups get comfortable because they've gained territory and they can spend less time worrying about fighting government forces, that's when terrorist leaders start to say okay, i've got a bigger cause. my cause isn't just baghdad. it extends from new york city. right now i'd be thinking and worried about iraq if i were in the chair in d.c. but i expect the jihadis are figuring out how
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to use an ak-47 against the government troop, no the in times square, new york. >> for now they're dealing with a more local battle but you never know what happens next. >> well for the moment, but remember, what's happening next door in syria is you are getting that sense of safe haven among the jihadis. too much time and space to plot without worry being a drone and without worrying about government troops. that's what i'd be worried about. >> philip mudd, thank you very much. muddy situation, i'm thinking of branding that when you come on, when things are difficult, it's a muddy situation, you bring in philip mudd. >> well, try to grow up as a sixth grader and have your name as mudd be a fact. that's a tough life, man. i'm happy to be here. >> you've clearly overcome, clearly overcome. it's great to have you. >> thank you. >> let's get to the other headlines this morning. there are plenty of them. he's a warrior to be sure. here is a look at more headlines at 13 past the hour. another round of tornadoes,
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dangerous ones touching down in the midwest, taking aim at the heart of the town in wessington springs, south dakota, extensive damage there, homes, businesses, all torn apart. we're told some people were briefly trapped in their homes. in another part of the state, what looks like twin tornadoes from the same storm system, white vortex twisting around itself on the ground ripping apart what appears to be a barn. texas governor rick perry launching a law enforcement surge along the border to combat a stream of undocumented immigrants. state officials authorized the extra security at a cost of more than $1 million a week. perry says the move was triggered by lack of federal resours to secure the border. he says texas couldn't afford to wait for washington to address this ongoing crisis. breaking overnight, donald sterling's estranged wife shell shelley is headed to court to protect witnesses from possible intimidation by mr. sterling.
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cnn source "there are clear indications of threatening quhafor." shelly recently reached an agreement to sell the clippers to steve ballmer for $2 billion but donald sterling as you know is suing to block that deal. some wild video to show you, police in morehead, minnesota, chasing a suspect to a golf course. officials received help from fargo police. fargo police however did not drive onto the golf course. police are reviewing chase policies to make sure they ensure public safety. looks like something out of a film. that's real life right there. caused some damage to the greens there as you can imagine. >> there is the concern. >> honestly looked like there is a guy with his head down and getting ready to tee off at the bottom of the picture. >> when you're on your game, you're focused, not really paying attention. >> i don't golf, so, so i'm told. i only putt-putt.
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>> different kind of focus required. >> you still focus. >> absolutely. we take that seriously >> that windmill can come and get you any time, send you down and screw you up for the clown's mouth. >> you've had a lot of experience with putt-putts. >> boy, oh, boy, a combo putt-putt place to use your beautiful little term and soft ice cream place called joe jacks out at the beach. woo. good for the soul. coming up next on "new day," new details on the dramatic capture of the man behind the deadly benghazi attack, how did officials lure him in and what did they find during the takedown? we'll take you inside that raid. and the ceo of american apparel finally let go, why do i say finally? a dozen sexual harassment lawsuits. what was it that finally got him canned?
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welcome back. we have new details about the takedown of the alleged mastermind of benghazi without a single shot being fired. so right now, achmed abu khattala is being interrogated aboard a navy ship as it makes its way slowly to the u.s. bar ba starr is live at the pentagon. you heard me dragging out the word slowly all morning because time is a valuable commodity to those speaking to this man, yes? >> indeed, chris, they want to talk to khattala and find out everything he knows about everything, but this mission, this was a secret mission in the works for days. intelligence agents on the ground, commandos on the beach, but in the end, they got khattala with very little drama.
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new details emerging from the capture of ahmed abu khattala, a senior law enforcement official, tells cnn, u.s. special operations forces including members of the fbi arrived by sea over the weekend. the official tells cnn khattala was lured to a villa south of benghazi when u.s. forces swooped in sunday. we're told khattala tried to wrestle with the troops. the key operative in ansar al sharia, the group the u.s. blames for the 2012 attack on the compound in benghazi was quickly apprehended and we're told no shots fired, no one hurt. the official also tells cnn u.s. special forces did recover some form of media at the villa. investigators are analyzing it. after the capture, special forces whisk khattala to the "uss new york" in the mediterranean where he is undergoing questioning.
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>> the main thing is to get the detainee, the subject to a safe environment, with a minimum of distractions. in this case, likely in international waters. >> reporter: khattala will be brought into the united states via helicopter once the ship is within range of the mainland according to the official. it is unclear where he will be held before facing trial. and of course, as he is on that boat one of the big questions is will they be able to get any intelligence out of him about other perpetrators in the benghazi attacks. kate? >> barbara starr at the pentagon, thank you so much. as barbara has mentioned khattala is on his way to the united states. so where then will he be tried? that is quickly become a source of much debate especially in washington. let's bring in mel robbins, cnn legal commentator and analyst to discuss. mel i want to get your take on this. despite calls from many republican lawmakers otherwise, the administration has plans at
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least at this point to try him in federal court. what is the concern? they've had success with this in the past. what's the concern that folks have then? >> there are a couple concerns and we've been debating this topic since 2001 when we tried four terrorists for bombing the embassies in libya, excuse me, bombing the embassies that killed 224 people, one in kenya, one in tanzania, and what the concern is that there are very different rules of evidence between a military commission, kate, and civilian courts. in military commissions, you can introduce hearsay evidence. you can introduce evidence that was coerced, in other words, without an attorney present, without miranda rights being read. you can also have greater protections for classified information, but i think the real reason why many people, including myself, really don't like the fact that we try terrorists in civilian courts -- >> why not?
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>> it doesn't feel right. i don't think that when you have somebody that is the subject of a manhunt overseas for committing an act of war against one of our embassies that results in not ohm our ambassador but three other people being killed, that they deserve the protections of our civilian justice system. yes, we have tried terrorists, many with success, but going back to that bombing case, kate, from 2001, where 224 people were killed, including 12 americans, that was a case where four defendants were convicted, and at the very end of the day, one juror out of 12 decided that he didn't want to deliver the death penalty, so it can have also a significant impact on the sentence that's delivered. >> then what do you make, mel, because you're laying out your position why he should be taken to gitmo. pat leahy was asked about this yesterday, he said "we go to guantanamo, the rest of the
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world says how do you lecture us about secret prisons." he goes on to say "you go to our federal courts we show the rest of the world we're brave, we can do it, we don't have to run and hide. i like our justice system." >> i completely disagree with it, because we're also setting precedents, by the way, because when they brought in the main guy behind orchestrating those bombings back in 2001, they didn't even seek the death penalty. so for me, i think that we're taking too soft of a stance, and that there are consequences. by the way, breaking news yesterday, one of those four terrorists that was convicted for the bombings in 2001 of the two embassies is now getting looser restrictions on who he can talk to in prison, so i just don't believe that terrorists have the same rights that somebody that's a u.s. citizen has, when they commit a crime. i don't believe it. >> there still seems to be a little bit of debate what rights he may have while he's on this boat, if there are any rights at all on his way to the you state.
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lot of legal folks looking at that as well. great to see you. >> great to see you. >> it's a big source of debate and has been for a long time. >> it is much more difficult to make cases like this because they're remote, you don't have access to things like that and civil court has a higher standard of proof. >> but they say they've got the evidence and they can do it, why no th not? >> certainly it winds up making a more clear case but they have two systems for a reason as well. coming up on "new day," olympian amy van dyken speaking out for the first time since her devastating injury. find out why she's calling it the toughest competition of her life. plus, he is out. the controversial ceo of american apparel finally fired after a stack of sexual harassment suits and showing up to meetings in his underwear. i hope it was american apparel, among other things. we'll tell you what finally made the board snap.
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two u.s. citizens arested in texas facing terror related charges. officials say one planned to fight in syria and potentially join isis. the other to join al qaeda linked to a group in an al qaeda linked group in somalia. ahmed abu khattala tried to wrestle with special forces in the operation that captured the mastermind. some form of media was found during the raid and now being analyzed. cnn has learned that shelly sterling is headed to court today. she is looking for protection for witnesses from possible harassment by her estranged husband, l.a. clippers owner donald sterling. oh, and i'm feeling good about number five, a no-hitter for clayton kershaw the dodgers, struck out a career best 15 in the 8-0 win over colorado. would have been a perfect game if not for throwing error by hanley ramirez in the seventh ending his first. congratulations to a standup
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guy. always updating the five things you need to know. go to for the latest. >> it would be nice if you did it when you lost as well. >> why would i do that? >> show a little fairness. >> why would i do that? >> l.a. sports dominating. >> you'll fit in well with new york teams. only like your team when they win. it's cnn money time. christine romans is in our money center. no she's not, she's sitting next to us, the firing of america's controversial ceo and bewant to get a look at the overall markets >> i see on my computer screen shows futures up slightly right now. good news from the federal reserve is drying it. interest rates are going to stay low, not likely to raise until next year. the fed chief said the job market is getting a little bit bet sore that's good news. we have new details also about what general motors knew about
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ignition switch problems in millions of its cars. e-mails show a gm engineer asked for a recall back in 2005. that recall because of an ignition switch problem only took place earlier this week. now that major story of american apparel, the troersial founder and ceo don charney ousted for cause. it's the strangest ceo i've called. he's called himself strange. he said "i should be locked up, i am my own worst enemy." he has the sex-infused advertising around the company that bothered parents. he's had multiple accusations of sexual harassment. in one claim against him it said he conducts his meetings in his underwear, interviews in his underwear, numerous relationships with people who work for him. >> is there a rule against it? is that wrong? >> we've asked to you stop before. >> and chris, under threat of
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legal action has stopped. >> i'm mocked because i can't believe this company waited so long. >> they've backed him up many times but this time the board says -- >> the last straw. >> some people are saying last straw might be the fact the company is falling apart. the stock $15 a share. the board is backing the $15 a share and $1 a share, losing too much money. it has a lot of work to sur vuf and one of the board members saying it's time for him to go. >> i was in the loss acless market working there for a decade and the stories that came out, he accused women early on in 2011 or something of cl colluding him, and shaking him down. he's the scandalous one it would appear. >> his defense, he said i'm a strange guy. i love my product. >> anybody prove anything against him? >> no, he has been cleared but now the company is saying that they're firing him for cause and
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that there is an ongoing investigation into matters surrounding hum and that it's time for hum to go. we'll see. there will be more written about this. we'll find out what they think the board has found but his personal conduct. no one alleging anything criminal but his personal conduct. >> do you see anything his personal conduct has anything to do with how poorly the company is doing? they've got a lot of problems. >> look, none of this is a surprise about him. from the very beginning stories have been written, business reporters scratching their heads. there's been a lot of bad choices made, they took on way too much debt, sales have fallen and he is the founder and ceo of the company. >> undocumented workers were discovered there. >> one of the interesting things about that, he for a time had been vocal about legalization of illegal immigrants in the united states and proudly says "made in america" on his shirts and starped legalize l.a. and federal officials found a quarter of his workforce in l.a. the papers didn't match up, the
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social security numbers didn't match up with other paperwork. >> happens to be a problem in the textile industry. >> absolutely. guy many said was getting high and mighty about his position about imfwrags refomigration re. >> he wanted all of his illegal workers legalized. >> now he's out. >> where will he show up next? >> i think he might fight. just knowing and having followed his career, he started this in his dorm room, moved it to l.a. this is his baby. he might really fight it. he might really fight it. >> my jaundice isn't about him and the allegations, that the company's fine at 15, when they're at one -- >> i thought the advertising was too sexualized to young people. some of the kids look like they're 12 years old and i didn't like that. >> thanks, christine. coming up next on "new day," amy van dyken opens up about the accident that left her paralyzed and the moment she had to tell her husband good-bye, thinking at that moment that it was the end.
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welcome pack. former u.s. low pressure swimmer is speaking out about the near fatal accident that left her paralyzed from the waste down. six-time gold medalist amy van
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dyken was injured in an atv accident just two weeks ago. she's showing what an low pressure spirit truly means. elizabeth cohen is at the cnn center with much more. amazing to see her talking already. >> it is to see how well she's doing. such an incredible example of strength and grace in the face of adversity. >> are you going to do any tricks for me? >> not today. >> reporter: six-time olympic gold medalist amy van dyken was smiling and tracking joke as she boarded a plane from arizona to a rehabilitation hospital in colorado. in her first public aexperience hee opened up about her experience, looking at everything with a positive attitude. >> i'm excited to get to this new part of my life, you know. it's almost like a rebirth a little bit. i get to learn how to do everything all over again and i'm anxious to do that. >> reporter: vandyken-rouen
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severed her spinal court. she and her husband were told to say their good-byes as she was rushed into emergency surgery. >> there's a good chance i wasn't going to make it out of surgery. i looked at my husband and basically said "i love you, good-bye. please continue on with your life." to do that and then to be here now and to be with them is the most amazing thing. >> reporter: paralyzed from the waist down she copes daily with gruelling pain and physical therapy but she's not complaining. >> yes, this injury sucks and yes things hurt, but i'm alive and i'm so thankful to be alive enso that's why i can be positive about it, you know? it helps get me through the pain. >> reporter: the champion swimmer became the if first american woman to win four gold medals at one olympics the 1996 games in atlanta and went on to win two more gold middals in sydney in 2000. inducted into the u.s. olympic hall of fame eight years later, calling this injury the toughest
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competition of her life, she says through her good days and bad, it's been the support from family, friends and social media that's kept her going. >> i can definitely feel the thoughts and prayers. keep them coming. this is just the beginning. >> reporter: she remains positive about her recovery, even if it means she'll never walk again. >> i'm going to get the best wheelchair ever. i'm going to make it so cool. i'm going to do my hair to ma much my chair and i'm going to rock it out. >> now when amy and her husband said those good-byes to him, she said "you can date other people if i don't make it through the surgery." thankfully he doesn't need to do that. he'll be right by her side through her recovery >> what a rock star. >> she's amazing. >> we know that olympians are different and better than us, and we try to see it in their sport but i don't think there's a more perfect example what have makes them better and stronger than what we just saw right there. >> she'll need it. she's amazing. thank you for bringing us hadder
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wrote "a rumor of war" about his experiences during vietnam, his latest book is "the longest road." what a delight to have you here. we know you're wrong the first ground combat units deployed to vietnam. i have to say, when we talk about the fact it's been more than 50 years. >> yes. >> we are still feeling the effects of the war especially hooking at iraq and the rest of the area. >> yes. i think of it this way, is that vietnam was often called the quagmire, and it was, but i think iraq is kind of proving that sand is stickier than mud, so it's certainly similar in that way, and as well is that you've got in president obama as in lbj, you've got two presidents whose hearts and passions were in domestic
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policy, who suddenly found themselves completely tangled up in foreign wars. >> continue the metaphor for us, because the way we got into vietnam very different obviously, the hunt for communism and what's going on in iraq. however, there became a similar, are you there to occupy, if not how do you extract? when is it over? we struggled with that in iraq as well. what should we have learned from vietnam? kreerl we did n because clearly we didn't follow that lesson. >> the best statement i heard about the lessons of vietnam was given by john kenneth gallbraith, 25 years ago, the lesson of vietnam is you should never get involved in a land war in vietnam. but as far as iraq goes, and i would even include afghanistan, is that these conflicts tend to be analogously speaking kind of like the domestic disputes that
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police officers like to stay out of, in the sense that those tend to be the most dangerous for police officers, and these civil wars are usually the most dangerous for the outside power that intervenes, which has proven to be the case other and over again, and especially i would say in iraq even more than afghanistan. there was a real justification i think for going to afghanistan, because of the 9/11 attacks, but not so much with iraq. >> now, for those who have not read your book, i mean, so many people have read it, pulitzer prize winning. i want to get your take, telling your story over and over again is probably what people always ask to you do. what changed in you? what did you think going in sent to vietnam and what changed in you? that is a lot of the crux of what i got a sneak peek of this episode of "the sixties" and
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that's what you see in this, the view coming from the public, the view even within the oval office, just changing so quickly on a dime of what they thought they were doing in vietnam and what they realized was happening. >> well, when i went over there in the mid 1960s, we were still living in the afterglow of world war ii, and i think i and most of the marines that i went over there with kind of thought this was going to be a bit like world war ii. we would be welcomed as liberators. we were fighting against an oppressive foreign invader, never considering that north vietnamese are as much vietnamese as south vietnamese were, and that perspective changed a lot faster for us than the american public. i think after we've been there about six, seven months, we
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realized how delusional we had been, but i don't think that the american public really questioned what we were doing there and why until about 1968. >> and those protests are so striking to see how passionate they were. >> absolutely. >> a big thank you to you for coming in to share this with us. i have a feeling a few more people will seek out your book now and hopefully they'll tube in tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific "the sixties" set your dvr. you don't want to miss this. this is another episode as kate was telling us, she got a sneak peek of it, it's really powerful. philip thanks for sharing your stories and wisdom with us. >> thanks for asking. >> and thank you for your service and reminding us that veterans need to be concerned with the rest of the population when they're at war and when they come home. >> thank you. >> appreciate it, sir. coming up, a 7-year-old psyches up a pro football player for the fight of his life. the amazing video that will make you think anything is possible. that's why it's the good stuff. replace your laptop?
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the man ♪ ♪ yes, i am, yes, i am, yes, i am ♪ >> he has a weird name. time for the good stuff. you know how we often say out of the mouths of babes? well here's why it is too true. texas offensive tackle david quessenberry. great player but diagnosed with non-hodgkins lymphoma. he promises he's going to beat it and getting help along the way in the form of a texans fan pint-sized powerhouse jake daniel. he's only 7 but he's already faced non-hodgkins lymphoma and he beat it so he decided to send words of encouragement david's way. take a listen. >> here's some tips. number one, keep your head up. number three, never give up. number four, when you get your mouth sores always eat yellow
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and good luck, buddy. i will be praying for you. >> i'm in love with this child. 7-year-old with the sweetest, sweetest disposition. i love the jell-o tip. good to know. >> he was inspired, quesenberry because of the kid's infectious enthusiasm and he tweeted back to jake "you just made my day, my friend. wise words. young stud can't wait to meet you!" day, i can't wait for that to happen. >> that's going to be special. >> and hopefully quessenberry will have the news he, too, is following jake and getting over it. >> the fact that he had it, beat it, and it is so strong at that age to give advice. >> hopefully he's already dealt with the worst life has to offer him. thanks for being the good stuff. we appreciate it. lot of news with what's happening in iraq, and here at home as well. so we take to you "the newsroom"
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and the closest to perfecting we have, poppy harlow. >> oh, if that were true, chris. always flattering, thank you, guys. appreciate it. good to see you. "the newsroom" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- good morning, everyone. i'm poppy pharlow in today for carol costello. thanks for joining mean. in iraq prime minister nuri al maliki says his troops are pushing back the terrorist groups but his leadership may become a casualty of the conflict nonetheless. many in washington and our arabb auto a lies believe he can't unify the country. more lawmakers say he has got to go. i also want to -- take a listen. >> it seems to me that maliki has t


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