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da dobbins reserve air base, where that plane is expected to touch downen in a few hour's time. nancy writebol and kent brantly contracted it in liberia. in hard-hit west africa, more than 700 have died from ebola in recent weeks. ebola is so infectious is kills up to 60% to 90% of patients who catch it. >> contracted through transition of bodily fluids include fever, muscle ache and general weakness. >> following twitter or facebook you know there is a huge concern about bringing these two people back to the u.s. who are infected and that's the question we're asking today. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta with us now. >> there's a lot of questions
about this, and i'll tell you, i asked the head offed cdc specifically that same question. he made an interesting and fundamental point. that is, they are u.s. citizens. there's not an exclusionary policy in america, even if someone who an infectious disease they can't come back in. the state department had the to oversee it, cdc gave approval but they are u.s. citizens. the health care workers are the ones most at risk. that risk is an interesting thing. a chance to talk to the doctors leading the team and asked about that. take a listen. >> we know that the risk is small, but even smaller if these patients did not come here. >> reporter: if you don't have anything magical to provide, why take the risk at all? >> i think you've been in that part of the world and know the level of care that can be delivered. these are americans. who went over there to supply humanitarian mission of medical
care for these individuals. and our feeling is that they deserve the best medical care to try and resolve this infection that they can get. >> reporter: part of it, they say, they can do the same things done in africa bet do it better. you quote the fatality numbers they have a better chance of saving someone's life here. >> a very high level had to sign off on this. state department, cdc and health authorities getting together to realize that to bring these people back, more benefit to them being here, not only for them, but possibly for doing something for the disease and figuring out the disease? >> everything's a risk benefit analysis. i think despite the warranted fears. this has never happened before, but when you look at the actual risk, the chance of an outbreak, for example, occurring in the city of atlanta or elsewhere in the united states is so remote that that wouldn't happen here that the comparison has always been to these more remote villages in africa. a very difficult medical atmosphere there.
>> what's interesting, taken to emory, and you still among all of the things the man does, perform surgery at emory. so if you were working with this team, would you have any concerns? >> i wouldn't be coming in contact with the patients directly. i wouldn't have any concerns for me. i don't think this is how this sort of thing spreads. i think the big concern would be, is it going to affect people being, you know, wanting to take care of the patients? doing their jobs? health care people fearful about it. that hasn't seemed to happen. one of the things dr. ribner told me, two of the nurses on the containment unit were supposed to go on vacation and cabsaled vax eed vacations beca wanted to take care of these patients. a sense of this is what we do, what we prepare for, one of the best in the world at this. so let's do our jobs. >> the fact it's the first time they've ever had to deal with it is interesting. that plane is interesting. three water-tight barriers between the patient, the victim, and the people caring for them on the way over here.
>> right. >> that same process once off that plane on a helicopter into emory? that same double, three, four barriers? >> a great question, miguel. i've tried to get a better answer. when they land at dobbins air base, you showed there, are they in a helicopter? go by ground? we don't know the answer that that. part of it, they aren't telling us, because they don't want a lot of media following the craft, whatever it may be. but an isolation procedure, wherever it is, helicopter, ambulance, we don't know what it is exactly. a better idea what it's going to look like when they get to the hospital. that you imagine a glass box. not a bubble. a bubble we typically think of, but it's a glass box, going through a series of rooms before going into the patient's room and gowning up and the patient has an intercom, phone and people can see into the box, but that's how you isolate somebody. >> talking about this experimental treatment they're going to possibly perform on both of these patients. is there any gauge as to when
they might start seeing a significant increase in and some benefit to these patients? >> it's really hard to tell. i was sort of amazed, christi, how little the doctors here at emory know about the patients that are coming. they know then have ebola, not the basic blood chemistries. they've never even been drawn. asked if they're on a ventilator, answer, we don't think so. typically when a patient comes to a hospital like this you have an entire medical record it's what's going on. that's not the case because of where they're coming from. a very different atmosphere. >> unprecedented what's happening today. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much for walking us through it and watch san grey gupta m.d. live right here on cnn at 4:00 as he goes more in-depth on the ebola epidemic. by then the plane may have landed and we may have more answers for you. keel keep you posted. >> thank you. talk about the crisis in the
middle east now. an official palestinian delegation is headed to cairo right now we understand for talks aimed at curbing the bloodshed in gaza. israeli media reports israel will not send a delegation. >> asia's president this morning laid out a cease-fire initiative he called "a real chance to stop the fighting" a plan agreed to last month but hamas rejected. the cairo talks come as an israeli soldier is still missing after a firefight that shattered that truces, intended to last through theed weekend and only lasted 30 minutes. president obama is blaming hamas saying goldin must be unconditionally released as soon as possible. hamas is deny they go have the 23-year-old soldier. >> meantime, israel has been pounding gaza. israel says it has hit 200
targets in the past 24 hours alone. but military operations may be winding down. >> today israel sent text messages telling residents they can return to their homes. near gaza's northern border specifically with israel, also advising them, though, to, "be aware of explosive devices that hamas has spread across the area." our martin savidge is in jerusalem anchoring coverage of crises in the middle east for us what's the latest on the cease-fire talks and missing soldier from where you are right now? >> reporter: we seem to have activity on a number of fronts, both military and also perhaps on the political side regarding whether in are going to be further talks in egypt regarding a possible cease-fire, rekindling the seefires talk. doesn't appear so. the palestinians are saying they're on their way and that they're representatives, hamas and other militant groups are going as well. israel isn't saying anything officially on the record. israeli media saying, no, no
israeli delegation going. that doesn't look good. you report on these text messages going out from the israeli military to residents in northern gaza. saying they can go home, but be careful. it should be pointed out as far as any warning or any message getting through in northern gaza to people might be difficult, because electricity isn't funkdsing. we're not sure of the cell service or whether peoples phones are charged, on and on. you could see how getting that me message will be difficult at best. and other indications coming from the israeli government there could be a shift in tactics in the north, center part of gaza. in the south, keep it sealed off looking to are their missing soldier. we anticipate there could be some official announcement later 20ed tonight. checking in with cnn's john vause in gaza city with a view from there. what are you seeing? >> reporter: marty, for the first time in a long time it is fairly common, at least here in gaza city, not the sound of
artillery or tank fire, or air strikes. it's very, very calm, at least here in gaza city. and you're right, advised residents in the northern strip they can go back home. we've also seen what looks like tanks on the horizon, repositioning. they've pushed up a lot of are sand and dust. you can tell they're on the move. maybe moving back. we don't know. residents south of here are reporting that the israel forces are moving closer to the israeli border as well. hamas, though, is still firing rockets. in fact, just moments before peeki speaking with you we saw hamas racket fire into the south heading in the direction of ashkelon. hamas continues to fire rockets. we must say, too, israel is probably moving its troops back saying its finished operations to look through the tunnels abtsz destroy them, at least in the northern part of gaza, maybe
possibly the central part of gaza as well, that may bring an end to that operation. it doesn't mean that the air strikes have come to an end. we'll see what happens with that. marty? >> john vause talking to us from gaza city and, again, sources here saying that the movement of israeli forces, those messages going out, telling people in the north of gaza to go home, they can go home, would be correct perceive those are looking for rockets and tunnels, it's apparently wrapping up. let's go back to atlanta, christi and miguel. >> all righty. martin, talking about how israel seems to be pulling back a bit. just to clarify -- do we think they're repositioning themselves and moving further to the south? they may be telling some people, yes, you can go home, but really, how safe is it? >> right. again, the warning that came from the idf, watch out for boobytraps they blame on hamas, and where the forces are going. withdrawing completely from
gaza? will they hang outside the border, the northern border there of gaza and israel? it's unclear at this particular point, which is why we're waiting for some sort of official message. there's been no real official notice since all of this broke apart yesterday. this is holy time, holy day, shabbat, once the sun goes down, it's possible we may get some official notification. >> we'll watch for it. thank you both so much. appreciate it. >> thanks, guys. israel says hamas has captured one of their soldiers, but hamas is denying the ac accusati accusation. is an escalation of air stroois strikes imminent. and what hamas stands for and what they really want. let me get this straight... [ female voice ] yes?
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15 minutes past the hour. the israeli military is telling palestinians now, palestinianing who fled the fighting in the northern gaza town, they can return home. >> but the idf still looking for one of its missing soldiers. a delegation heads to cairo to attend negotiations. bring in our cnn military an thrift lieutenant colonel nick francona. colonel, they can do targeted strikes, they have very, very good weapons system, but how targeted can one be pumping that much force into such a heavily populated area? >> you can't. that's the bottom line. you can hit the target you want. the problem is, as you hit the target you've got a lot of collateral damage, because the weapons put off a huge explosion. the air strikes are probably more accurate because those are planned. the pilots take off, know what
they're going to hit. they can hit that precisely, if they're flying the targets of opportunity guided in by drones or drones themselves, very precise. the problem comes in when using tank fire and artillery. these are not guided, aimed, not guided. when they hit a tremendous explosion and as we've talked before, in this densely populated area, there are always going to be civilians present. it's just the nature of the business in gaza. >> one of the things possibly complicating this just in the last 90 minutes, the palestinian delegation we know son its way to cairo. we heard this morning. egypt back under military rulers hofrtal to islamists like hamas. israeli media saying they're not going to the talks. your estimation what do they do from this point out? let me ask you this, does it come down to that israeli soldier that's missing? >> the israelis not being there is really -- i mean kind of makes the point, why go?
but the palestinians believe and the other parties believe they need to go at least sit down and provide the opportunity for there to be some talks. the israelis are really going to concentrate on trying to recover this soldier. that's why we are seeing an increase in air strikes and seeing a lot more troops. martin talked about a lot of movement of tanks and things. the israeli were in the middle of a troop rotations. bringing in fresh forces, rotating others out. that probably on hold now until they resolve the status of this missing lieutenant. >> and i take it, everything stays in stasis until that soldier is found or they figure out what happened to him and where he is? in other words, the israels won't engage in any talks. they won't move units out entirely that they will keep everything on lockdown? >> i think that's -- that's a fair assessment. the israelis have this, you know, this tradition of not leaving anyone behind.
they would even stay and try and recover human remains, if they could. they're going to have to resolve this before they go and i think that hamas knows this, and that's why they're playing this game of, we don't know what happened. it may have been another group. we're not sure, and all of that, because they know that if they admit it or it comes out hamas was behind this, they'll incur the wrath of the israelis much more than right now. right now, a waiting game. israelis are searching and hamas standing back s. there a severe split, do you think, between the political wing of hamas and the military wing? >> yes. always tension between the two. the military wing is wanting to take the fight to the israelis. this is the resistance. they've been planning for this for a long time. the political wing much more pragmatic. they understand that they are up against the ropes right now. and they're allies in past, egyptians no longer have their backs. when this is over, they're going
to have trouble re-arming. so the political wing is looking for some long-term agreement that they can live with. the military wing, the resistance, as they call themselves, is looking for a fight with the israelis, and the two are not on the same sheet of music right now. >> clearly. lieutenant colonel rick francona, thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. >> sure. the u.s. labeled them a terrorist group, remember. in gaza, seen as protectors. we're going to get the real story on hamas, in just a moment. vo: this is the summer.
with so many fast-moving twechlt developments in the fight between israel and hamas, it's easy to lose sight of the big picture. >> a deeper look at hamas. cnn's paula hancocks clues us into how the group was formed and what they want now. >> reporter: propaganda video, recruiting tools. call it what you will, but hamas wants israel and the world to see its military might. created in 1987, its name means islamic resistance movement, formed specifically to fight the israeli occupation, but within the lawless territory of gaza, it became so much more. >> hamas began to expand its social and economic reach to include social welfare programs,
subsidies and a variety of other educational and cultural programs for palestinians in gaza. so it played, and still to this day has a political dimension, an administrative and social dimension and, of course, a military one. [ sirens ] >> reporter: april, 1994, hamas carries out its first suicide bombing in israel. an attack in a northern city kills eight. it is just the beginning. hundreds more israeli citizens will be killed by hamas, mostly in suicide bombings. a deadly pattern that leads the u.s. and others to label hamas a terrorist group. [ chanting ] >> reporter: a moment of legitimacy for hamas. 2006, winning democratic palestinian elections in a landslide victory. it is one of the first islamist groups in the world to win political office. >> this is a new beginning for palestinians. >> it's the decision of the people.
>> reporter: but the west refused to deal with a terrorist organization. experts estimate hamas has a fighting force of some 10,000. short and medium-ranged rockets handmade within gaza, longer range projectiles smuggled into the territory. the u.s. says from iran. millions of dollars of annual financial aid from iran have largely dried up since the uprising in syria. supporting the group through israel. throughout this israel tightened hold on this territory, controlling what goes in, restricting who comes out. it is this blockade hamas wants completely lifted. a wish shared by 4 million palestinians and human rights groups. a wish israel says it can not grant as long as the group on the other side of the border refuses to recognize its right to exist. paula hancocks, cnn, new york. paula hancocks, thank you.
listen, we've learned in the last 26 minutes it is doctor kent brantly, one of the americans who contracted the ebola virus in africa who is on that flight back to the u.s. right now. >> looking inside the high-tech transport plane they will travel home in as well as his colleague in the days ahead. that's coming up.
bottom of the hour. i hope saturday morning's been good to you so far. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm miguel marquez. the stories we're following, paul george's leg injury. could it end his season? i think so. and official announcement, george hurt during a team usa scrimmage when he slid into the base behind the basket, it bent his lower right leg in a way that is just too graphic, that
even fans and players there reportedly had to look away. george later tweeted he'den back, and better than ever. brave guy. >> and wishing him the best. china, 62 people dead, after an explosion, china state news agency reported 158 people hurt. investigators say flames may have ignited dust inside a wheel hub. that factory supplies to general motors. and cracking down on central america making it easier to deport children. the legislation includes money to reimburse the state of texas for sending guardsmen to the boarder. president obama calls the bill extreme, and says the senate is unlikely to approve it. number four, international monitors say substantial recovery efforts have been made after 70 dutch and australian experts were allowed to ent are
the crash site of malaysian flight mh-17. as many as 80 victims could still be among that debris waiting to be sent back to the netherlands and from there back to their families. number five, an official palestinian delegation is headed to cairo right now for negotiations aimed at curbing the bloodshed in gaza. according to israeli media reports, israel will not send a delegation. israel is still trying to determine the whereabouts of a soldier it blames hamas for capturing. hamas denies taking him. so what are u.s. lawmakers doing to stop the bloodshed and attacks on both sides? wa can they do? >> congress han engel, thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it. we've seen a cease-fire erupt into a major escalation. in your estimation what does the u.s. do at this point? >> well, i met with the president a day before yesterday
and the president, of course, wants to see if we can get a cease-fire back in hold, but you know, the problem is there was a cease-fire that was agreed toe. a 72-hour humanitarian and it's clear hamas broke it and ambushed an israeli soldier in those tunnels. it's become clearer to me there can't be any cease-fires in the tunnels are destroyed bear used for one purpose only, and that's to capture israeli citizens, capture israeli troops, and i think that israel now, until that soldier is returned, is not going to agree to a cease-fire until all of those tunnels are destroyed. >> congressman, the secretary of state kerry, he's come under withering attack in the israeli media for what they say is just his bungling of the negotiations and discussions that he's talking to qatar and turkey. they don't trust them obviously.
now this possibility has popped up with egypt. where do you think this is going? is this egyptian possibility real? is this something the israelis could come to the table on if they've discovered and figure out and perhaps get back their missing soldier? >> well, the cease-fire, if it had stayed, would have been broken by egypt, and there we were -- there was going to be negotiations in egypt to keep the cease-fire going. so i think if there is, to have a cease -- if a cease-fire is going to be put back, and is going to be effective, i think egypt will have to be the broker of it. i think that the turks and the qataris have not played a very constructive role in this whole thing. really just turkey is a nato member and for them to be buddy buddies with hamas a terrorist organization, is something that makes me very sad. >> hamas denies that they had
this israeli soldier. but would you expect them to come forward and say that they did have this man and say that they have him to try to use it as some sort of negotiation strategy? >> well, i assume that's why they took him. you know, israel not so long ago traded over 1,000 palestinian prisoners for another captured israeli soldier that they had held for five years. look, the bottom line is this -- hamas is a terrorist organization. and it denies israel's right to exist. if they agree to -- if they accepted israel's right to exist and agreed to abide by all commitments that the palestinians have made, i think then you could have negotiations, but you cannot expect israel to negotiate with a group whose charter is the destruction of the state of israel, and i think that that's a problem. the fight is not really between
israelis and palestinians. it's between israel and a terrorist group calmed hled hamd that is a very big problem. >> seems like a brick wall as well as big problem. the israelis, when they traded over 1,000 palestinian prider ins, hamas prisoners and others for his safe return, did they up the ante for hamas? is this something i hate to say it, brought on themselves? >> it's always a criticism when you make deems with tals with t organization. you perhaps encourage them to do the same thing. we did a similar thing with sergeant bergdahl and there's criticism for that. it's a decision that has to be made. i know we said we don't leave anybody behind. the israelis have said it as well. that's a decision that a government has to make. yeah, when dealing with a terrorist organization like
hamas, they are going to try to spread terror and to use this to further their own inend. i guess it will play out but it's clear to the israelis this soldier was ambushed and that the hamas used the cease-fire as a pretext to be able to ambush the israelis, kill some of them and capture this soldier. >> okay. quickly, i want to ask you about immigration and the crisis there, because i understand you were up quite late last night voting on that nearly $700 million bill that deals with the influx of these minor migrants that are at the border. we're told there is no chance of passing it at this point. what was the issue with the bill? >> is thno chance are passing a the senate. we have a crisis at the border. the president asked for money to deal with the crisis. house republicans refused. this -- these bills went beyond
just the crisis at the border. these bills went to try to deport these young people, the dreamers we call them, who were brought to this country when they were 2 or 2 months, and have not known any other country but the united states. the series of votes last night by the republican majority in the house were a series of mean-spirited votes that are dead on arrival. just to throw red meat to this base and try to gin up campaign contributions, not a serious attempt to try to solve the situation. the senate won't pass it. the senate has passed a comprehensive bill, bipartisan bill that they sent over to the house. it's been languishing in the house for a year. the speaker won't put it on the floor, because he knows if he puts it on the floor it will pass, and so we go around and around and around. what happened last night i think was just really shameful. it wasn't a serious attempt at all to solve the problem. it was throwing red meat to their base. >> all right.
representative elliott angell, thank you so much for your insight today on both subjects. >> thanks. >> thank you. on his way home. a specially equipped plane is flying an infected doctor with ebola back to the u.s. right now. we'll take you inside that plane that is transporting him. [ female announcer ] there's a gap out there. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. at humana, we believe if healthcare changes, if it becomes simpler...
dobbins air refers base just north of atlanta and the plane carrying an american aid worker infected with the deadly ebola virus is headed there right now after leaving liberia. dr. kent brantly will be treated at the emory hospital. the first time an ebola patient will be treated in the u.s. infected. the secretaond patient is expec to arrive next week. the specially equipped plane can only carry one patient at a time. >> on a virtual tour of that plane bringing dr. brantly home. good morning, tom. >> reporter: christi and miguel, if you're going to transport somebody with a highly infectious disease there are certainly pieces of equipment and protocols which it make it safe offering three letters of protection. what we mean, inside an air plan for this transport what they would do is build a room or a tent. it's a framework covered with
impermeable plastic so nothing can get in or get out. negative air pressure, meaning the pressure is higher inside than outside. if there's a rip, things flow in, not out. it's not an airborne disease doesn't make a difference, but this is a basic protocol. second layer of protection, those who will work in here. any doctors or nurses will wear full head-to-toe protection, so they're not exposed to the virus. that's the second layer of protection. and the third layer of protection is on the patient, because the patient will be enclosed in another tent here. this is also impermeable plastic. they will be able to take his temperature, monitor his heart, his respiration, all of that, but any treatment, even if he starts violently vomiting or bleeding which can happen with ebola, they have to reach in with special gloves and work on him and keep everything inside
the containment area, including all of those bodily fluids because that's what contains the virus, and as much as they may want to save one life, they must have of primary concern keeping that virus away from so many other people where it could do so much more damage. christi, miguel? >> tom foreman, thank you so much. we appreciate it. boy, so much talk, too, about the latest suspension in the nfl. >> causing lots of controversy. baltimore's ray rice, suspended two games. some say that is a slap on the wrist. when you run a business, you can't settle for slow.
switch to comcast business internet and get the fastest wifi included. comcast business. built for business. now to a story it seems everyone has a very sharp opinion about. two days suspension of baltimore ravens running back ray rice stemming from a domestic violence incident at an atlanta city hotel and casino. >> nfl commissioner roger goodell spoke out yesterday calling domestic violence unacceptable and defended the length of the suspension against critics who say it's just too lenient. >> reporter: hey, christi. two issues, the legal case and the nfl's response to it. legally the nfl confirms the case has been resolved. ray rice agreed to enter a pretrial intervention program after a year of the charges against him will be expunged.
a lot of people saying the nfl should have and could have sent a much stronger message about domestic violence. >> my actions were totally inexcusable. >> reporter: ray rice publicly apologizing to fans and his wife for the first time since his arrest in february, stemming from a domestic violence incident at an atlanta city hotel. at the time, rice was seen in surveillance video dragging his unconscious then fiancee janapalmer out of an elevator. >> and i just replay over and over in my head. >> reporter: but it's the nfl's response to the matter that has some scratching their heads. rice face as two-game suspension, but does the punishment fit the crime? >> 45% of the audience is made up of female viewers. how will they take the suspension? apparently a risk the nfl is willing to take. >> reporter: u.s. senators are now sending a letter to the legal pushing a heftier
punishment. nfl commissioner roger goodell defended his decision friday. >> what's important here is that ray has taken responsibility for this. he's been accountable for his actions and recognizes he made a horrible mistake and it's unacceptableable by his stands, by our standards and he's got to work to re-establish him. >> reporter: it's not entirely surprising -- >> if you compare to the history of the nfl, it is entirely in line with past suspensions for this type of conduct in the nfl. what it's out of line with is past suspensions that have been put in place by roger goodell, during his commissionership of the nfl. >> i don't think it's fair, really, but i don't think it's -- nfl, they're all about playing games, not about how to tell a person what to do. >> trying to say, it's bad, but we don't really care. >> making millions of dollars
off of our children that are supposed to grow up looking at our athletes that make all of that money and that's cool? that isn't cool, to touch your woman in any fashion. >> and along with that two-game suspension, ray rice is fined an additional game check and christi and miguel, cost him about $530,000. >> well a good amount of money, but i'm sure others would like to see him pay more. shocking. alexandra field, thank you very much. this week's cnn here other a writing a new peaceful chapter for guatemala's future. >> how he's fighting vile innocence guatemala with love, when we come back. let me get this straight... [ female voice ] yes? lactaid® is 100% real milk? right. real milk. but it won't cause me discomfort. exactly, because it's milk without the lactose. and it tastes? it's real milk! come on, would i lie about this? [ female announcer ] lactaid. 100% real milk. no discomfort. come on, would i lie about this? frommy family and is to love ice cream. however some of us can't enjoy it without discomfort.
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along the east coast next week. that's it. it is heading towards puerto rico already causing intense thunderstorms. dominican republic next. beneficial rain. welcome rain across puerto rico, winds 39 to 36 miles per hour now. really not a bad storm when you are comparing tropical storms and hur karricanehurricanes, ofd be must worse. given rain to port reik uerto r. they need it. it stays away from the u.s., good news, and thes nasty side of these storms typically on the east side. that is also good news. seeing higher than normal surf most likely on the east coast and rip current risk, but that's about it. over the weekend, though, the southeast. watch out for rain. seeing anywhere from two to foufour inches from south florida to the
carolinas. >> hold to you that. general ferp grjennifer gray. >> that does it for us. turning it over to fredricka whitfield and wolf blitzer aenking fraenk i anchoring from jerusalem. >> it is the 11:00 hour of the "newsroom," which begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com for the first time ever the deadly ebola virus is coming to the united states in a few hours. the plane carrying one of two inforgeted americans will land in atlanta. but is it really safe to bring ebola to the u.s.? plus, israel lashing back. attacking what it calm calls m than 200 terror targets in gaza and searching for a soldier they say is being held captive by hamas. something hamas is now denying. all this as a palestinian dep
gatien heads to segypt to try t broker another cease-fire. we begin with the latest on the deadly ebola virus. the first of two americans infected with ebola is now en route to the united states for treatment. it is the first time ever a patient with ebola will be treated in the states. a doctor and an aide worker contracted it. they're being flown to an air reserve base in georgia today and treated as a highly specialized unit at emory university hospital in atlanta. cnn's dr. sanjay gupta asked the doctor who is running the unit about treating these patients. >> why take the risk at all? >> i think you've been in that part of the world, and you know the level of care that can be delivered. these are americans that went
over there to supply humanitarian mission of medical care for these individuals, and our feeling is that they deserve the best medical care to try and resolve this infection that they can get. >> the world health organization says the disease is now spreading faster than efforts to actually contain it. in west africa, more than 700 people have died from ebola in recent weeks. with an ebola patient about to enter the u.s., what are the risks? dr. sanjay gupta joining me now. we know that the doctor who is infected is dr. kent brantly. can we read into how sick she, and how he was the first of the two to the make it to the u.s.? >> it could be -- they're both sick, but have to be stable enough to fly. we know the plane can bring one patient at a time. how that decision got made on the ground exactly i'm not sure, but typically the patient more stable, because it is a long flight. >> remarkable, emory hospital
hasn't necessarily treated an ebola patient before. this is the first time. what is it about emory that says we are equipped to handle this kind of highly contagious disease and patient? >> let me put an exclamation mark on that. ebola has never been in atlanta, in the united states, or in the western hemisphere in the world. this is the first on many levels. i asked the doctors the same thing. part of it, the cdc, they have a close relationship. a collaborative effort and with emory university and the cdc, and a hospital of one of four of these isolation units. there are others, and so those isolation units get used for different things. i think they've used it for marberg virus in the past, during the sars ten years ago. a little protocol, never with ebola. >> and the medical team, of course, treating this patient, they are all going to be wearing protective gear. you wore protective gear when
you went to west africa. >> that's right. >> when you helped reveal what a terrible problem it was. this comeback of ebola, but were these doctors that are -- these medical -- these two medical teams, were they using this kind of protective gear, and how did they end up with the disease? >> it's a little unclear. we've tried to figure it out. they do wear the protective gear, to your question. what seems to have happened here, another health care worker who was a local health care worker in that area also became sick, became symptommatic and still came in to work one day and may have spread the virus within an area the doctors shared. that's what we're hearing from samaritan's purse. it's hard to tell. i want to bring in a spokesman who's on the phone with us, a spokesman for the world health organization. he's in guinea now, i believe. i was there not too long ago. first of all, can you hear me? >> caller: yes, i can hear you. >> okay.
i was probably not far from where you are now, and i want to get a little idea from you just broadly speaking the headlines are that this is out of control. out of control is a pretty scary thing when you hear about it coming from the world health organization. is that how you characterize it as well? >> well what we are saying, really, is it is a really serious outbreak. what we have here is a transmission chain ongoing in several locations. you have been here. you have seen it yourself. i'm just coming from a region in the eastern guinea and was going across to sierra leone. there are a number of fof fatals we have not map pd the chain. this is worrisome. that is why the director general came here yesterday met with the presidents of three countries saying this is so serious that we need a full commitment from everyone, and world health organization is launching a new plan to be able basically to have enough resources, enough of
material to put all of those measures that are needed in place to have capacity to have treatment centers and comprehensive operations going on. this has to be a turning point, as the doctor said, we need now to act fast and put everything in place that we need to do. >> let me tell you as well, tell our viewers, that our affiliate, wkadi is reporting now that the plane bringing back dr. kent brantly, the first american infected with ebola, to land on u.s. soil, is now in bang oor, maine. refueling there. the plane route is still ongoing. we're hearing the world health organization doesn't have the resources or funds to do the job they're supposed to do. i want you to respond to that. can world health organization adequately respond to what is
now happening in west africa? >> well, this is what the wto responding, it has to be a collective effort led by wto, but all the other partners who have expertise to be able to help ministries of help. we should not forget we are talking about those two case, but since the beginning of the outbake more nan 100 health workers are infected and 60 of them die. this is why we need to protect these health workers. we need to train them and we need to have enough of them so they do reasonable shifts to stake care of themselves as well as the patients. so we really need collective action from all of the partners cdc atlanta as you know is here helping with daytime management. others are hempi ihelping a lote management and this has to be stepped up by all of us and world health organization has a mandate to coordinate this. >> i want to be really clear, though, because this is an
important point. we hear that 80% of the countries that are supposed to make good on donations to the international health fund have not done so, and that the w.h.o. is strapped for resources. now you're faced with one of the largest ebola outbreaks in our world's history. does the world health organization have what it needs to respond adequately? i know there are other organizations involved, but i'm asking about the world health organization. do they have what they need? >> well, we have certainly -- the capacity to mobilize, those who know. as you have seen, we really need people with experience. we need to bring partners from all areas of work. she we we have something called global alert, outreach, we mobilize more than 25 physicians working on the ground. we have employed more than 120 people. saying to everyone today, this is a priority. we need to work around the clock
to try to help and i think if we get what we put in this ebola response plan, it's been now -- each country also mobilized all the resources there is and if other partners help, this is the only way basically to go forward. >> spokesman for the world health organization. i know you're very busy. i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. you keep hearing the same thing over and over again. a grave situation. when they say the worst ebola outbreak in the history of our world, fred, more than one therpd of the cases ever reported have now occurred just over the last few months just gives you an idea. >> sobering to hear it is worrying. a real disparity, is there not in the fatality rate? rural versus urban? why is that? >> they seem to have better
splice and doctors think they can improve on statistics more for the same reasons. simply replacing fluids, giving blood back to someone bleeding. not options in some of the more remote areas. that doesn't prove the statistics. they want the body to fight the virus on its own. they just need to give it the time to do so by supporting it. >> there's much more and we'll be watching your special today, dr. sanjay gupta, m.d., 4:30 p.m. eastern time. dr. gupta will bring you the latest efforts to fight the ebola epidemic and one of those american patients now en route to the atlanta area. thanks. moving now to the middle east where an offer for new negotiations on the gaza conflict may not get very far. egypt is now pushing for a new cease-fire, and a palestinian delegation is going to cairo right now, but according to israeli media reports, israel is not sending a delegation. the last attempted cease-fire
fell apart less than two hours after it started yesterday. israel blames hamas saying, militants attacked israeli soldier, trying to dismantle a tunnel. and it captured a second lieutenant, hadar goldin, but hamas is not admitting to the disappearance of this soldier. it blames israel for starting to shell gaza again. the u.n. relief and works agency said today, one of its workers was killed in a strike in gaza yesterday. today, the israeli military says it hit what it calls 200 terror targets in gaza. that includes a university, that israel says hamas was using to work on weapons. israel says it is also facing attacks. the israeli military says 65 rockets have been fired into israel in the past 24 hours, and 11 were intercepted. wolf blitzer joining me live from jerusalem. wolf, what has it been like
there today? >> reporter: very intense, fred, as you see. the israelis are keeping their military operations going from the air, from the sea, on the ground. hamas continues sending rockets and missiles into israel from gaza. in fact, one was sent out about 6:00 a.m. local time in towards the tel aviv area which is pretty far north, not just in the southern part of israel. so the rockets and missiles keep coming. the israelis keep their operations underway searching for those tunnels, those hamas tunnels that go from gaza into israel. israeli military officials telling me they are making what they call very good progress in destroying those tunnels and think they know where almost all of them are but are not 100% sure. one ary e israeli analyst sayin don't know what you don't know. they think they're making progress on that. in the rafah area in the south, major operations are underway because of that missing israeli soldier you just mentioned, second lieutenant hadar goldin.
so the israelis are keeping their operation underway. hamas is continuing to do what its been doing, even as the diplomats pursue, perhaps, some sort of diplomatic initiative, but it's -- that cease-fire looks illusive. i will say one thing, fred. we are getting indications that the israeli government is going to be making a significant statement in the coming hours about its military objectives, what it's doing in gaza right now. we'll see what they have to say. but that could be significant. we're bracing for a major israeli announcement that should be coming forward fairly soon. but, fred, it's still a very intense thing. >> and so, wolf, is there an explanation, a public explanation, as to why israel is not sending a delegation to cairo? >> the israelis, you know, have a much better relationship with the current government in cairo under the new president el sissi than with the former president
mohammed mored morsi, a muslim brotherhood leader. they want a good relation. ry el sissi, working on it and want it to be strong. we she reza sayah there now. a delegation representing the palestinian authority, representing islamic jihad, hamas, all of the various factions of the palestinian elements are on their way now to cairo. i don't know if they've landed yet, but set the scene. this could be significant, the egyptian government saying they want to try to revive that cease-fire initiative? >> reporter: yeah, that's the latest, wolf. we do know according to the leadership of the palestinian authority, representatives of the palestinians are on their way here to cairo, but it's not going to be much of a talk if the israelis aren't here. so unfortunately, on that front, there's no a lot of movement. i don't think there's any doubt much of the world is looking at the conflict in gaza, at the
fighting and want someone to step in and get these two sides to stop fighting, end the bloodshed, get them to sit down and establish a lasting truce. unfortunately, that hasn't happened yet, and egypt seemingly at this point hasn't been a factor in getting the israelis to come here. of course, this was the day when all warring factions, the leaders, were supposed to come to cairo and start the truce talks. of course, that fell apart with the violence yesterday. earlier today egypt's president, abdul fattal el sissi held a meeting with the italian prime minister, a lot of people eager to see if he had something to say about the status of the peace talks, but strangely, he didn't make reference to the u.n./u.s.-backed cease talks. he made reference to the egypt-backed cease talks and of course, that wa made on july 14th and immediately rejected by hamas. hamas complaining that none of their demands were in that proposal and all of israel's debhands in that proposal.
still waiting for word that anyone other than the palestinian representatives will come here, and so far we haven't received that word. wolf? >> all right. we'll see what happens on the palestinian front. the israeli front. i'm told israelis want to have a strong reship with the new egyptian president. the new egyptian government. and they have a pretty good dialogue that's been going on, whether or not they send a formal delegation to cairo right now they're in constant touch with various elements of the egyptian military, the intelligence community and the political leadership. reza, stand by. we'll get tack to you, but back to fred in the meantime. >> thanks so much, wolf. we'll get back to you as well in jerusalem. fighting in gaza is making life miserable for those who live there and taking an emotional toll on aide workers trying to help them. >> reporter: the rights of palestinians even their children, are wholesale denied and it's appalling. [ crying ] >> heartbreaking for so many.
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the israeli military texted residents in northern gaza today saying they could return home, but israel defense forces say that hamas has spread explosive devices near the israeli border. the health ministry said at least 50 palestinians have been kill fld gaza just today and as the almost con tastant bombing continues, civilians caught in the middle are returning out of places to hide. here's cnn's randi kaye. >> reporter: it's a situation that for some relief workers is too much to bear.
>> the rights of palestinians even their children are wholesale denied and it's appalling. [ crying ] >> reporter: the children, there are according to the gaza health ministry, more than 325 killed and according to the u.n. nearly 2,000 wounded. the cease-fire that never materialized was supposed to provide an opportunity to treat them. but as the fighting renewed, there was hardly that chance. cnn john vause saw at this hospital in gaza doctors frantically treating the newly wounded, while standing in blood. >> the shot, injury, open wound. cut, amputated lower limb. >> reporter: more than three weeks into the conflict around 7,000 people in gaza are reportedly wounded. medical supplies are returning
low. and the very issue of powering the hospitals is a challenge. the power plant is destroyed. so the main hospital including all of the life support machines, now running on two generators. food and clean water are a problem, too. water pumps and sewage are failing leavie reportedly only % of water able to drink. little security keeping the children especially out of harm's way. this woman and her six children are desperately trying to find somewhere safe to go. >> translator: they've killed 45 members off my family, destroyed our homes. my aunt and anuncle, all them killed. >> reporter: a quarter of a million are housed in their shelters say the u.n. and can't take many more. if the fighting continues, tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands, could be stranded in the streets. randi kaye, cnn, new york.
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the american doctor infected with the ebola virus is on his wane home right now for treatment. she being flown from liberia to a highly specialized unit at a hospital in atlanta right now his plane is refueling in maine. the american aide worker also inforgeted is being flown home in the coming days. meanwhile, the death toll from the ebola outbreak in west africa has now passed 700. why is this outbreak so bad, and way weren't re able to contain the virus more effectively? here's will ripley. >> reporter: doctors in west africa are fighting a losing battle. more than half of these patients could be dead in days. >> tragic that the people who are dieing from it, but it's really despablizing all societies. >> reporter: this professor has hospitals are struggling, borders closing, trade and commerce is grinding to a halt. >> an unprecedented outbreak.
>> reporter: co-discovered ebowl fla 1976, almost 40 years later doctors still don't know how to prevent it or where it lurks between epidemics. >> it came out of the blue in west africa. >> reporter: one leading theoryish bats are carrying ebola possibly spreading the virus to other animals and then to people. testing the theory is difficult because outbreaks are rare and little market demand for a vaccine. money for research often comes from the government. countries like the u.s. worry it could be used in an ebola terror attack. studies have been promising, saying real world testing is what patient desperately need. >> see whether we can offer that to people suffering with infection up to 90% mortality. >> reporter: stakes have never been higher. for the fires time the virus is spreading across borders to populated areas. >> it's far more difficult to
control and epidemic such as ebola when you go into the big cities, far more difficult to trace all the contacts, isolate people. >> reporter: until scientists find a cure, doctors will keep struggling, as ebola keeps killing. will ripley, cnn, london. all right, we'll get more on that coming up. meantime, who and what is hamas? and what do they really control? we'll look at who has the power in gaza. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america.
welcome back to our special coverage of the crisis in the middle east. i'm fredricka whitfield in atlanta, and i'm wolf blitzer in jerusalem. >> deadly blasts are rocking gaza once again. the palestinian health ministry says 50 people have been killed just today. the u.n. relief and work agencies says one of their staff
members was killed in a strike in gaza yesterday, and fighting has been raging since a failed cease-fire attempt on friday. israel says hamas violated the truce by capturing an israeli soldier. hamas denies that, and today the israeli military sent text messages to people in one region of northern gaza saying they could go back home, but that they should be aware of explosives hamas may have put there, and violence is also breaking out in the west bank. people protesting the attacks in gaza clashed with the israeli military yesterday. one palestinian was killed according to appropriate medics. wolf? >> hamas certainly as you know, fred, has a political wing and also an important military wing, but as the fight rages on, it's still unclear who's really in charge. who exact lipt ly is calling ths in gauze dia paula hancocks has more on this part of the story. >> reporter: this is what israel is up against.
a secretive group of well-trained killers who will stop at nothing to destroy a state they believe should not exist. but this is not hamas. this is the brigade, one of more than half a dozen different militant groups in gaza. this group says it helped kidnap the israeli soldier in 2006 and training to kidnap more. a perfect example why they should be worried by far more than just hamas, but with an israeli soldier now gone, the blame is on hamas. >> we can't confirm, we can't deny, unless we have solid information. this is a real position. if that soldier was captured by any other organization, we don't have any information. >> reporter: sounding as bafralled as anyone, the hamas political leadership not even in gaza. it's based in qatar saying the occupation prevents them from going home. the reality is, israel would likely target them if they did.
the leader has only been to gaza once back in 2012 to effectively run gaza, you have to be in gaza. another problem for hamas, logistics. imagine an yaearea the size of detroit with no pow herbs little water, 1.8 million residents who can't leave, being run by a group that's a shadow of its former self. with a military wing worried about using cell phones that can be tracked by israel. >> internal communication within hamas has been disrupted. and so they have a hard time even getting on the same page internally, much less bringing outside groups into line. >> reporter: despite this, israel says hamas rules the strip with an iron fist. so whoever breaks the cease-fire, has smaus accountable. hamas is accountable. the reality is complex. islamic jihad, army of islam, a few of the better known groups. the question is -- how many more splinter groups are there that until now may have been operating under the radar. >> we know there are jihadi
groups in the gaza strip. this is the sort of environment that jihadi groups tend to thrive in. >> reporter: israel blames hamas for sparking this latest conflict. perhaps to try and force concessions. the longer this lasts, the more this becomes a life or death battle for hamas as well as the people of gaza. paula hancocks, cnn, new york. so with no end in sight, what is next for israel and gaza? joining us now to prbreak i down, retired air force lieutenant colonel rick francona. colonel, how big a turning point is this that israel believes that hamas is holding an israeli soldier captive? >> this is, this story is a real wrench into the israeli plan. the you ary plan all along, go in there, do the damage they needed to do. take out the tunnels, degrade the rocket inventory a try and demilitarize hamas as best they could and then go home. now they've got a soldier probably in captivity, and
agency you know, the israelis will not leave someone behind. so they're doing everything they can right now to find out where the he is and try and rescue him. i think it's a -- the odds are against him, but they're going to try. that's why we see this ramp-up in military activity. >> colonel, it's wolf in jerusalem. what would the u.s. military do in a situation like this, hypothetical, military situation, whether in iraq or afghanistan or some place else. few american soldiers, they sgee a house, and all of a sudden they see there's an entrance to a tunnel. someone comes out of the tunnel. with a suicide vest, blows himself up. kills two of the american soldiers, and some others inside that house, then grab a third soldier and they go down in that tunnel. what would the u.s. do? the u.s. military do, in a situation like that? >> well, we've had these situations happen in iraq. several soldiers at a checkpoint had been taken, and as soon as that happens and alert goes out over the radio and everything stops, and everybody goes into,
let's find these guys, mode. all of the assets. intelligence, air yell surveillan surveillance, people on the ground. similar to what happened when sergeant bergdahl was discovered missing. all the offensive operations are halted and everything goes into a rescue mode, but you can only do that for so long and some some point have to recognize that this guy may be a captive. so the israelis are going through this process right now. they pretty much took parts of rafah apart, but have not been able to find him. so i think they're trying to isolate rafah. you saw they are allowing people in the northern part to return to their homes, because they're concentrating on where they believe this lieutenant might be. >> and, colonel, and wolf, the president, president obama, made a statement yesterday about the u.s. role in this conflict that was rather telling. let's listen. all right. well, essentially the president was deploring the fact that so
many citizens on the palestinian side have died, but at the same time, israel has the right to defend itself. so, colonel, just how much further can the u.s. go, or even other countries, in terms of playing a role at this point? >> yeah. every time you come out in favor of the israelis defending themselves, you put yourself in the other position of, then, almost justifying the damage done to the infrastructure and more importantly the civilian casualties in gaza. i mean, everybody understands the density of the population there and it's almost impossible to conduct military operations without this huge loss of civilian life, and if you even come out and support israel at all, then people assume that you're justifying this, and i hope the president is not taken in that context. >> and, wolf from your standpoint, has there been any reaction there in israel as to what the president said
yesterday? really trying to play both sides, being a realist, acknowledging the civilian death toll, but at the same time, talking about the right for a country to defend itself? >> no. the israelis were very pleaseed by what the president said in his news conference at the white house yesterday. the president earlier, secretary of state kerry, basically almost completely accepted the israeli version of what happened, 90 minutes into that so-called cease-fire, that supposed cease-fire. the israelis, the president accepted the israeli vegs version and said hamas must release that israeli soldier right away without conditions. secretary kerry said it earlier a written statement. so the israelis believe on this particular issue, as of yesterday, they got a strong vote of support from the president and the secretary of state. they were very pleases and also were pleased that the president made a point specifically at that news conference theying that hamas usually puts a lot of their rocket launchers, other
weapons nbc heavily populated areas, concentrated, popular areas, populated areas in gaza and have themselves at least partially to blame for the civilian casualties. as far at yesterday was concerned, israelis liked what they heard and i spoke way hamas spokesman yesterday, in dough h qatar and did not like what the president of the united states said and he said sewed frankly. >> thank you, wolf and thank you colonel. americans joining pro set ofs against the violence they see in gaza. but in some cases the anger with israel's response is turning into an anti-semitic attack aimed at all jews?
the world is watching. the bloodshed and rising death toll in gaza. anger is rippling through communities from the u.s. to europe. protesters, many pro-palestinian making sure their voices are heard. in some case, deborah feyerick trorts cou reports it could be getting close to anti-semitism. >> reporter: from parts of the west -- to the east, anti-israel
protests are garining m ingaini momentum and getting nasty. almost 200 rallies across america since fighting intensified weeks against palestinian israel and hamas. showing images of hitler, the holocaust and apartheid, images that confuse historical facts and fan the flames of religious intolerance. >> it con flats issues people they have ish israel with the issues there is with jews. that's anti-semitism and dangerous. >> reporter: heading for the jewish anti-defamation league tracking protests. >> it's not just israel or israelis chaired to hitler and the nazis. it's jews. the focus at the rally, demonize jews. they don't see the difference. >> reporter: europe has seen rise in anti-semitic attacks over the last few week. moat blatantly, jewish-owned
businesses vandalized and one burned in paris after an anti-israel raly. the uk reported a spike. more 2345than 100 incidence repd and america not immune. smaller acts of vandalism directored not towards israeli institutions but towards synagogues like the one in miami sprayed with nazi swastikas and the word "jew" written in hand cream on a car. online hackers also targeted synagogue the websites with claims denying the hol caught. the islamic group care warns this could trigger an anti-muslim flashback like this flyer found in a brooklyn neighborhood. >> i think the rhetoric has to be contained to the point of the questioning of human rights. and to the question of politics, and, but not anti-jewish. >> reporter: no one can say
whether the level of anger and violence in europe will spread to the u.s., but some american jews fear that the growing anti-semitic rhetoric and hate speech could reach levels not seen in generations. deborah feyerick, cnn, new york. and many of you are still outraged over the apparently light punishment given to nfl star ray rice after the brutal physical assault of the woman who is now his wife. nfl commissioner roger goodell is trying to make his case that a two-game suspension is fair. we'll bring up the latest reaction. ,
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patient like this, it's the first time they're actually tweeting somebody who has ebola. >> we're hearinging of no specific incidents op the plane, the patient is stable. that was of high concern, quite a sick patient, making sure they're stable enough for this flight. this is the first time in atlanta, first time in the united states, first time in the western hemisphere of the world to have a patient with ebola now in this location. they're going to be going to emory university hospital. it's interesting, any hospital really has an isolation unit can likely take care of a patient with ebola because it's not an airborne disease. it spreads through bodily fluids and most isolation units are well equipped to handle it. you can see those images as well. maybe ambulances coming up to the plane, it's hard to see, but that is the question as well. simply getting the patient from point a to point b. from dobbins air force base to the hospital.
do you go by ground, helicopter, something like that. and keep many mind that the people who are transporting, this is obviously, they're the most at risk here because they're having direct contact with this patient and trying to avoid any contamination whatsoever in the plane and whatever vehicle is next. >> so, with this patient, how was this person transported in the plane to contain whatever contaminant that person may have and then now at that airstrip and then to be transported into any one of these vehicles or helicopter. >> it's pretty sophisticated and the goals are, one, we want to make sure the patient stays stable. two, want to make sure nobody else gets infected and then obviously know where you're going. i think we might have some images of the inside of the plane. we can show you while we're trying to figure out what's
happening, but if you think about these series of tents within the plane and the patient goes inside these tents and then there's these specially designed passage ways for doctors pau put to put their arms in. >> without person to person contact. >> that's the key. you don't want contact or drop lift contact. any body fluids get iting from e patient who is ill to the health care providers. >> dr. kent brantly is this patient. there are two humanitarian workers overseas who came down with this. they are the two making their way. this man right here, dr. kent brantly is the first to arrive. this containment that you speak of kind of in a bubble in the airplane, that entire bubble with the patient in it would then be transported into any of these ambulances or medevac helicopter. that's what we should envision? >> that's the plan, i believe. keep in mind we talk about these things, but this has never happened before. we are reporting it first in medical history, this has never happened before.
there's no, images of what we're talking about in terms of how this is done. that's the inside of the plane. you get an idea of what that looks like. so the idea of movinging that unit into an -- >> there it is. >> into a helicopter, whatever it may be, is probably what's going to happen next. right now, we're seeing the plane. >> we're going to talk more about this on the other side of a short break. thank you so much and you're going to have a live special this afternoon on this. >> and we'll go to emory where the patient's supposed to be probably over the next couple of hours. >> we'll be right back and talk you back out to the air reserve base in a moment. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 50,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000
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will be transported to emory university hospital where he will receive treatment. that, too, is a first time ever for that hospital. dr. sanjay gupta with us now. you have intimate experience with this virus, having been in west africa and seeing firsthand the kind of contact that the medical community has with those patients and now, we're talking about someone who was one of two humanitarian workers. he was in west africa, who contracted the disease and now, he is the first to receive treatment here. >> this is the first ever. first in atlanta, first in the united states. this particular patient though, there's a lot of concerns about a medical evacuation like this, would the patient be stable enough, healthy enough, if you will, for the travel. would they be able to protect the workers and also doing the transport and then figuring out where he was going to go. they figured he would come here to atlanta and go to emory. we are hearing there are no incidents on the plane, the patient stayed stable throughout. a major concern. as far as protecting everyone
else, it's quite extraordinary, really, to look at some of the technology here. you're looking at the plane where dr. kent brantly is located. but if you take a look at some of the images inside the plane, you get an idea of the type of technology involved. sort of almost a bubble within the plane. a series of tents that protects the patient, protects the workers from having any bodily fluid whatsoever get on them because this is how this particular infection, this particular virus, is transmitted. not through the air, but through bodily fluid. this is something that i as a doctor, i have not seen something like this. it's not something often used. we are talking certainly about a medical first in the united states with this patient. >> then, we're trying to envision, you've got this
plastic tent in the cargo of this plane. and it would seem then the patient along with that plastic tent would have to be removed and then put into whatever other transport vehicle to take to emory, but we don't know if that's how they're doing it, do we? >> we don't know exactly how they're doing it. even what that vehicle is, an ambulance sh a helicopter, a portion of that tent. the entire tent. the goal is to basically continue to protect the patient from the other patients and -- >> so we're told these are the live pick which atures of the a which is transported him. so, clearly, that tent wouldn't have fit inside the ambulance. >> some version of the tent. my guess is they're very, very stringent infection protocall over there. you know, i think one of the reasons they hadn't told us whether it was going to be an ambulance or helicopter, they didn't want to create a fuss. this is ebola now traveling through the city of atlanta. i think the risk to the citizens of atlanta is small.
>> what about from the medical team, those who are driving the ambulance, those flying the plane. what kind of precautions would have to be taken to protect them? >> well, the big precaution is trying to isolate the patient within that you know, again, we call it a tent, a bubble, whatever it is. that you want to call it. i don't know if the pilots for example of the plane were in bio contamination suits or just the health care workers. >> that's something you wore when you were in west africa. >> when i was there, i wore that same sort of bio suit and basically, the goal is to cover every square inch of your body. no skin showing. no way that any droplets of fluid could get on your skin because the thing is, we all have breaks in our skin. that's one of the things about ebola. if it lands even on your hand, it could potentially cause an infection.
a small amount of fluid. which is why the extraordinary amounts of precaution are taken. >> and what's extraordinary about this disease that we have learned through your reporting as well as information coming from the world health organization is that incubation period of more than 20 days, so you as a medical, could have it for a period of time before any real symptoms are exhibited. >> that's right. up to 21 days. it's important to keep in mind though, you are not going to be spreading the virus during to that time. it's not until you become sick yourself and people who are sick with this are in bed typically in a hospital. they're not up walking around, shaking hands with people in an airport. the understandablescientificall so unlikely this turns into an outbreak. >> we know that the distance between the dobbins air reserve base and emory could be about 20 to 30 minutes depending on who's dri
driving. they have an escort, it may be shorter and nick valencia is at the hospital and i wonder, nick, what kind of precautions or what signs are you seeing there at the hospital that this arrival is imminent and what kind of protections with being put in place? >> well, just a short time ago, we heard from one of the doctors that's going to be part of the team that treats this american who's been, who's contracted the ebola virus and he was saying he urges the public for as many concerns as there may be, to have someone like that here in their own backyard, that's thought to be the first case of an american being treated here. he really urged compassion. he said this is someone's husband, son, child and really, what better place to treat this person than here at emory university hospital. as we've been reporti ining as gupta has been reporting, this is one of four facilities with this type of isolation unit. they feel they're prepared here
to deal with the case of the americans who have contracted the ebola virus. there is mixed emotion. we've talked to students all morning and while some are very excited about the prospects of this being an historic moment, it's very deadly virus, others are a little scared about what they don't know about the ebola virus. but as we've been r reportinging, this is a highly infection disease, it is not contagious though. it's not airborne. this isn't sort of like the flu where you sit next to somebody and have a high likelihood of catching that. from the doctors here, they want to emphasize that to the public, to students here on campus and really, the general community in and around atlanta. >> now, nick, i imagine that patients or family members who are there at emory because their loved ones or themselves are getting treatment at the hospital, might have a lot of questions about the arrival of
this patient. is there anything that you know that the hospital is is telling people about their personal safety or about the isolation of this patient? >> well, this is a highly sophisticated unit, only four of its kind in the united states. also equipped with an air filtration system. dr. gupta took a tour of one of these facilities yesterday and we got a better sense of what we're going to expect this patient to be dealing with here as they're treated by these doctors, but really just a short time ago, that doctor came out and was very emphatic that there isn't a risk to the general public. we spoke to the cdc director yesterday and tried to get them to go on the record about there being 100% certainty about not being a risk to the public and while they wouldn't say that, they said the likelihood is very small. as i mentioned, very infectious,
but not that contagious and they keep emphasizing that point, that there isn't an imminent risk to the public and their concerns and fears shouldn't outweigh the compassion they should have for this american, these two americans returning to the united states. >> right and that's a great point. highly infek shower shouse, but not contagious and i think when people hear those two words, they think they're one of the same. infectious meaning the droplets from a patient, any kind of bodily fluids, coming into contact with somebody else and opening of their bodies or a crack in their skin, that's what makes this highly infectious, but it's not contagious by way of airborne transmission. that is not something that takes place here. again, we're looking at live pictures of the ambulance, which inside is dr. kent brantly, one
of two u.s. humanitarian workers who contracted the ebola virus while doing work in west africa. and he has been transported by air and a very special plastics tent like bubble within the cargo of an airplane to the united states. this is the first time that the united states has received for treatment a ebola victim patient and the reason why this plane has landed in atlanta is because now, this patient via ambulance is on route to the emory university hospital, which nick has been explaining has one of 2004 containment facilities in the u.s. and because of the emory university hospital's proximity to the cdc, medical specialists feel highly confident this is the right location for this patient to receive this kind of medical care. now, nick, what more can you tell us about this containment area at the emory university hospital? and by the way, you're going to be receiving some company, nick,
momentarily because dr. gupta left the studio here. he'll be heading over to emory and joining you on the reporting. our public also probably knows or maybe many don't know, that emory university hospital is also a hospital in which our dr. gupta is part of a neurosurgery team at that hospital, so he has many contacts within emory. what more can you tell us about the containment facility, this isolation facility at emory? >> we know it's separated from the general population and the patients that are already in emory university hospital, we know also that it has its own air filtration system as well as that team. i mentioned that i spoke to one of those doctors that's part of the team. we know they will be wearinging hazmat suits, sort of moon suits, if you will, covered from head to toe. every inch of their body covered so as to limit the risk of infection of this ebola virus,
which has roughly a 90% rate of death for those who contract it and perhaps, these fears, fred, we should talk about west africa and perhaps the fears stemming from this deadly outbreak, one of the biggest of its kind. being seen in city centers in downtowns and capitals. that has really shaken the nerves of a lot of those in the medical field, those observers watching this case of ebola virus, the first case coming to the united states and in the western hemisphere, really, and part of the concern at least in west africa, we've heard them raise their concern about these ebola viruses being seen in rural areas, country side areas, but this being one of the first times we've seen them cases coming up in the city centers. places like konokery, lie beber
and nigeria, that has stemmed concern on social media. everything from conspiracy they are theorists to others who really find it odd these parents, these two americans would be brought back to the united states. we should mention this decision, this benefit analysis of bringinging these two americans back to the united states was a decision that was made by samaritan's purse, these two americans that were, that came down with the ebola virus, they were affiliated with samaritan's purse, this non-profit charity organization doing work on ebola patients in west africa and they're the ones who made the call to bring them back. that was endorsed by the center for disease control, health officials here as well as the state department, who have been part of this process the whole time. on that plane, we should also mention there was a gulf stream jet, it was specifically outfitted to deal with a situation like this, for somebody who has a highly infectious disease.
there was a portable tent in the plane specifically designed for a situation like this. i'm not able to see those pictures you're showing at the airport of this plane landinging, but i'm sure that that was clear from the health officials surrounding that plane. they've been very careful and in fact, a point to be made here as i talk to people in an around this campus at emory, a place that's very proud of its reputation as a prestigious public health school, they say what better place than to treat a historic moment like this to treat two people who have come down with the ebola virus at emory unit. people very confident in the abilities of the doctors and physicians here and the team here all together that will no doubt have their hands full in the coming days and weeks. >> thank you so much. so, just to bring some folks up to date who just are joining us, you're looking at live pictures of an ambulance.
inside is dr. kent brantly. one of two u.s. humanitarian workers who got the ebola virus while doing work in west africa. the other aide worker was nancy writebol, she continues to be overseas, but dr. brantly is now the first american to come to the u.s. with the virus and receive treatment in the u.s. this is atlanta, georgia, where you're seeing that ambulance. it's made its way from the dobbins air reserve base and now making its way via ground presumably in a protective containment, but now making its way to emory university hospital. as you heard nick in his reporting, it is a hospital that has one of four isolation facile theties in the u.s. and that's why the medical community feels confident this is the right place where he will receive treatment. dr. gupta is on his way over to emory and sanjay is on the line
with us right now. so, sanjay, why, i think many people still want to know. even though there are four isolation facilities, emory has one, but i think many would presume that say the naval hospital in maryland might be a location where a patient like this would receive the best health care. why emory? >> yeah, there's no question there are several probably places in the country that could take care of a patient like this. keep in mind again, this is not something transmitted through the air, so there's no specific airborne containment unit that was necessary. most hospitals have isolation units like this. part of why emory i think has to do with the centers for disease control. originally, it was set up to basically be able to take care of for example a cdc field worker who came back with some sort of unusual infection. how would you care for that person.
this isolation unit was set up. it's been used for things like sars, bird virus, patients like that, but this will be a first with regard to ebola. this has not been done before. we had a chance to talk to the leader of the medical team who is waiting for the patient to arrive. they feel very equipped to be able to handle this because they take care of infectious diseases like this all the time. ebola is a different infectious disease, but their protocalls are very much the same. >> so, is there a way to determine how the decision was made? dr. brantly or nancy writebol. is it an issue of who was worst case scenario with the infection or you choose the one who has a greater survivability by receiving treatment in the u.s. how was the determination made that he would be first? >> it's a great question. we heard both patients had
stabilized, so i'm not sure how much ended up being a true medical decision, but there's lots of different factors that weigh in. one of the big ones is the medical stability that's anticipated during the transport. that's a big deal. you don't have as many resources up there on a plane for example as you would on the ground and you want to make sure that the patient is going to be able to simply tolerate if you will, that flight, but we don't know. we may get more details on that as time goes on. it could have been just a decision that the patients made themselves. you go first. we just don't know. >> okay and just as we look at these shots of that ambulance, i think i'm recognizing the general vicinity, maybe about five or so minutes away from emory as this vehicle's transporting. it seems like it has been an easy drive, so clearly, they have opened the roadways for
this ambulance to endure no obstacles. what about at emory itself? it is a very popular teaching hospital. any day of the week. how will they ensure that this ambulance and this patient makes it into the isolation area right away without anyone or anything standing in the way? >> same way they take care of a lot of patients who need to get to some high level of critical care immediately. they have places where patients come in, they can go straight to an intensive care unit, they have an area where patients go straight to an operating room, a ct scanner. it's probably going to be a similar thing here, where you just basically have a plan, where the patient is to go. my guess is that the patient goes straight to that containment unit for obvious reasons. they're not planning on stopping anywhere obtaining any scans or
testing. i think they go straight to the isolation unit and that process can take just minutes after you arrive at the hospital. could be a special elevator that's on stand by. i don't know the exact route they're going to take, but that's a pretty typical thing for a big hospital like this. >> and while dr. brantly is in that ambulance on his way to that unit there at emory university hospital, we understand that nancy writebol, the other humanitarian worker is next. she is overseas, but we have images of that same plane, that same gulf stream jet that was fashioned for dock dr. brantly that arrived at the dobbins air reserve base, we have images of that plane taking off because apparently, it would be bound for cartersville, georgia, where it will be prepped for that next patient before arriving in west africa to pick up miss nancy writebol, presumably, she's still in liberia, and then she will be transported in the same method we understand and she,
too, is it your understanding, she, too, will end up at emory university hospital? >> that's what we're hearing. we found this out yesterday from dr. ribner, the team leader for the stations. just moments ago, we spoke to him in the afternoon yesterday. he received that confirmation as well. up until that point, that's when they were taking one patient, they didn't know if those patients were going to be coming, but they confirmed that was the plan. obviously, these plans can change based on obligations are doing. how stable they are for flight, but one patient at a time was what we heard and both patients coming to emory. >> okay. and this isolation location. that would mean if they had family members who wanted to see them or visit them, they would not be able to have contact in
any way, correct? or would it be they would be suited up just like the medical community would be before any kind of contact from family members? >> well, my understanding is that they're not going to allow the family members to wear the suits and go into the room because of safety concerns. they only want health care providers to be in the rooms, but just imagine a big glass box and that's what the isolation area sort of looks like, so they can look in through glass windows into the patient room. there's an intercom system in the room, there are telephones in the room, so there are ways to communicate, see each other. ways to even get close, but always separated by that glass. >> sure. just moments away now from this ambulance, it's on the emory university campus now making its way to the hospital. you see of course a lot of live tv trucks right there, satellite
trucks. this is the kind of greeting this ambulance is receiving with dr. kent brantly on board. the first american with the ebola virus who is receiving treatment in the united states at the emory university hospital there where they have special containment facilities there and nick is there on the ground and sanjay gupta also en route there to emory. it's taking its turn into the hospital. so, paint a picture for us as to what you're seeing. >> the campus for a weekend is relatively empty compared to what it would be during the week, but there are still people here looking on to see what we believe is the ambulance carrying the american infected with the ebola just behind me. we believe they just arrived. we're seeing helicopters overhead. minutes before that, we saw a
police car turn on their lights and make room for this ambulance following this caravan into the hospital. we're seeing activity behind us here. doctors walking towards the entrance, what appear to be doctors dressed in medical garb here. lots of activity just picked up. not sure if you can hear the helicopter, but we see a helicopter, also. it appears to be an affiliate report, affiliate helicopter watching this ambulance coming as it makes its way into emory university, where the first american with ebola virus will be treated here in one of those isolation chambers as dr. gupta was reporting. we know it could just take minutes before that doctor is transferred from this ambulance into the highly secured isolation chamber. again, one of four facilities of its kind in the united states and as we've been talk iing abo
as well, why emory unit? well, this is a premier health institute. a premier institution of public health that has had so much experience with infectious diseases, rare types of viruses. no better prepared as any other place i've been told here by students on campus, members of the staff here. there's no better place than to treat somebody with this type of illness and ailment than emory university hospital and we as we've been reporting and now, we understand that that ambulance and that person who has contracted ebola virus has finally arrived here in atlanta. >> and dr. gupta back with us now. while this is a first, just seeing how well oiled of a machine this transport is, it would seem as though there were some incredible rehearsals in which to make this as fluid as possible. we understand that upon landing, that gulf stream we're told by the officials there at the dobbins air reserve base that the flight was routine and
uneventful. quoting them now, and that that patient, dr. kent brantly, was met by officials with the cdc, emory, as well as representatives of the base. and now, we see that transport taking place fluidly there via ambulance to emory unit hospital where he will be in that isolation area. sanjay, would a rehearsal taken place or is this just something that these medical technicians are trained for and they knew how to handle it even though this was the first? >> they talked about the rehearsals, if you will, taking place. at least going through the protocalls again. you have several people involved with the isolation unit. people who that's basically their job within the hospital is to make sure they're able to staff up that isolation unit as necessary. so, even dr. ribner yesterday talked about some of the training that takes place. simple things, i find some of this fascinating, but a sort of buddy system if you will.
you've seen the people gowning up and it's a pretty standard thing to gown up in one of these suits, but you want to have a buddy to make sure they take a good look at you now to make sure you are in fact completely covered. >> that is right on point. sorry to interrupt because i don't think you're able to see the return video, the shot we're able to look at, but we are seeing that the ambulance, suppose that was the driver who just stepped out, is in fact wearing that projective gear, but in near proximity is a security official who is not, but presumably, it's the ambulance driver who had closest contact with of course the patient inside and now, awaiting i guess the opening of the rear doors and we will be witnessing as long as we have this live shot extraordinary images from our affiliate, wsb, their helicopter vantage point, to see the removal of this patient, dr. kent brantly, the first american patient with ebola virus being
transported from the ambulance to that containment area within the body of that hospital. >> it is you know, one thing to keep many mind, obviously, people who have direct contact with the patient in this case, they need to be wearing this sort of, this gear, this space suits, the bio contamination gear, but not everybody. this isn't something that spreads through the air. i know we've made this point several times, but it's wort making it again as you're looking at these images. the people around that you know, i don't know if there's people who are watching -- >> it looks as though, yes. it does appear, i don't know the rule of the five people i see, expect that three are in security guard, police uniform, but the others are not who are stanninging nearby, but go ahead with your point in terms of whatever potential dangers or lack there of. >> right, so the people close by, but not directly involved with the patient are just not at
risk. this is not going to spread from the patient to them just by them being close by. this is direct contact with bodily fluids in that you'll see how the patient is secure in na regard to prevent those from getting on anybody, but obviously, p people caring for the patient most directly want to protect themselves in every way they can, which is why you see the suits in addition to the way that the patient is being secured and contained as well. >> and sanjay, the doors have opened now. yet another worker it appears three in all, two additional coming out of the vehicle now. we're seeing three who were inside with those protective suits. one stepping out very gingerly now from the rear and we're just going to watch and see, okay, the door now is closing. but it -- wait a minute, but perhaps one might be the patient being escorted in. what do you think, sanjay?
>> yeah, i can't see the images right now. we're right outside the hospital ourselves, trying to get a better vantage point as well. it's hard to say, so i don't want to speculate. >> i know, i'd be asking you to guess, but would it be realistic that a patient would be walking out of the that ambulance even with the protective gear or if there would be a special gurney. >> no. >> so, no to the walking. >> i can't imagine the patient walking. i imagine there would be some sort of way that the patient is being sort of protected you know. i don't know if it's still a tent like structure or what it is, but there's probably going to be something around the patient or certainly the people who are in most close proximity are going to be wearing the suits, but keep in mind, it's
worth stating again, that they go through this sort of protocall many, many times. they do training exercise, they've had other infectious disease patients, but this is a first. this is something they've developed some of the protocalls for this just over the last couple of days when they got word that the patient was going to be coming here. >> so, now, we have in all, we were able to see three people with protective suits coming out of the ambulance. two have gone into the building presumably. it's difficult to see from the vantage point when they left the frame and then one went back into the driver's seat of the vehicle, but the doors for the ambulance are closed, so it's anyone's guess i guess as to what's taking place, whether that patient remains inside, you did mention it would be unlikely that person would walk himself into the hospital, but we're going to try and rerack that imagery again so that we can, okay, so, now, we're looking at it again. this is moments ago.
trying best to describe it to you because i don't think you're able to see what i'm able to see. so, you have one person in the suit who was assisting, almost like having to stabilize the other person as they were walking out of the rear of that vehicle and now, together, either they're holding something and carrying it in or one of the people in the protective gear was holding the arm of the other as they walked out of frame and into presumably the building. does any of that sound -- >> well, they may be -- and i'm on the property now, we're walking towards the site, so i can get a better idea here, we just drove fwr the studio where you are to the hospital. and you see there's obviously the helicopters overhead. you see a lot of television crews here. what probably happened inside the ambulance often is some stabilizing of the patient just now you have another step, which is to get the patient from the ambulance now to the containment unit. that's another step in this
whole process and you want to make sure every time the patient is moved, that you ensure that the patient is stable. they may be iv lines, other things, you want to basically contain those as well and make sure that everything is ready to go. and also, all those people that you're describing, they all have specific roles. sometimes, they'll go through what that role is again before the transport actually takes place. in a trauma situation when we take care of patients who have had traumatic injuries, things move very, very fast. time is of the essence and while certainly, they don't want to slow things down here, they do take their time to make sure that the patient is also able to completely secured, that no iv lines accidentally get pulled out. those things take on a greater significance because of the patient's infection. this ebola infection. no rush.
make sure everything's under control and then start to move the patient. >> okay. sanjay, hold on for a hot second. i want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm talking to dr. gupta here about a first. an american patient who was a humanitarian worker working overseas in liberia, contracted the ebola virus. highly infectious disease. and has been transported, a first for an american with the ebola virus, to be transported to the united states for treatment. and in a special containment like a plastic tent, dr. sanjay gupta has been describing all morning long, he was in the plastic tent within the body of a gulf stream jet that made its way from overseas to the united states and arrived just about an hour or so ago in the united states in atlanta, georgia, and then was transported via ambulance, again, likely in some sort of protected containment in
an ambulance. traveled about 30 minutes via highway and city roads making its way to emory unit hospital, one of about four facilesy ts, has one of four special containme containment facilities in the united states. dr. kent brantly was that doctor, is that doctor, now being treated at emory and we've been trying to ascertain what we've been seeing live with this vehicle arriving at the hospital, pulling up ever so gingerly behind one of the structures, the buildings there, and then watching three people with protective gear emerge from that vehicle, that ambulance and then two of them making their way inside what appears to be one of the hospital buildings there. but unclear whether perhaps that second person might be a patient, might be dr. kent brantly or now we're looking at
it again, or whether it appears they may be carrying something very carefully. dr. gupta back with us, nick valencia at the hospital. it does appear now, and there you have in front of the camera now, it appears that perhaps those two people were carrying something and you say while time is of the essence and there may be an urgency, there's also a great responsibility to be very careful in caring and sometimes, take their time for other things, so perhaps they may have been carrying something that pertains to this patient or to the research or treatment of this patient? >> maybe some medical records perhaps, some information they may have gathered during flight. it could be something that accompanied the patient from liberia that may be relevant to his medical care. have you seen a patient emerge? has there been a gurney? >> no.
no, we haven't seen -- >> i don't know -- >> we're continuing to look at this live picture from wsb. again, this is moments ago that we have rewracked this video, so you are seeing what we saw with three people in protective suits emerging from the vehicle and fou, we're looking again at the last two as they close the door and now, they do appear to be helping each other carry something inside. so, go ahead, sanjay. >> yeah, and i don't know what exactly their protocall is here, but there could be several people involved with this transport. there's a doctor, most likely that accompanied dr. brantly on the ambulance. this could be the same doctor that has accompanied dr. brantly all along the flight. it's unclear if they changed staff along the way. it's the same staff to establish some sort of continuity of care, take care of the patient through the the journey, but the,
wouldn't be surprising if there are several different people involved. obviously with the suits on, it's harder to get an idea of what their roles are, but their mission is very clear. they want to get the patient into the containment unit. they're not going to waste a lot of time once they start moving. they may be a elevator just standing by waiting. they want to come into as minimal contact with anybody as possible and get dr. brantly into this isolation area. >> what's iraqable, too, here, unless you are familiar with the hospital and this medical community, you can better paint a picture, but it's not representative of one building. the medical campus there is quite sizablsizable. there are several different buildings and wings to the hospital, so just because we see that that vehicle has pulled up behind one building and possibly delivered something, it doesn't
necessarily mean that's going to be the location this patient is unloaded, transported, because there are so many different facets of this medical facility there at emory, right? >> yes. absolutely. there are different areas, they have different responsibilities. the isolation unit that we've been talking about, we may have some pictures to show you, you're not going to look at it, it's not going to look like anything particularly extraordinary, but it is an isolation unit that is separate from all other patient areas and that's an important point. as a faculty member here, we got an e-mail from our leadership basically outlining some important points including that one. that this isolation area, which has been used in the past, is separate from all over patient areas. there are isolation units in hospitals all over the country, but this is something specific about emory. again, designed to take care of rare infectious diseases in
collaboration with the centers for disease control, often time, workers are out in the field, could be infected with something rare. this was set up to help care for them and now, obviously, for dr. kent brantly. >> you mentioned that cooperation and coordination between emory and cdc. it's very easy because there may be a half mile that separates that campus and the cdc campus. so, clearly, the proximity is advantageous. we're going to take a short break and when we come back, we'll have more on the transport of this humanitarian worker with the ebola virus to the united states at the emory university hospital right after this. jooix honey, look i got one to land. uh-huh. (vo) there's good more... honey, look at all these smart rewards points verizon just gave me. ooh, you got a buddy. i'm like a statue. i just signed up and, boom, all these points.
overseas. we are watching a first. an american with the ebola virus has been b transported from liberia, west africa, to the united states. he's in atlanta now. he's been transported via plane and then on the ground via ambulance just within the past hour and a half or so, making his way to emory university hospital. one of just four hospitals with special containment facilities here in the united states. it's a first that an ebola patient is being treated in the u.s. these are the images just moments ago. we saw two people emerging from this ambulance, appears to be carrying something as they're transporting it into the plane. it's not presumed that either one of these people may be dr. brantly, a 33-year-old doctor from texas who along with nancy writebol of north carolina, also contracted the ebola virus while doing humanitarian work in
liberia. dr. brantly is the first to be transported. it's presumed that next week, if everything goes as planned, nancy writebol of north carolina, will also be transported from liberia and make her way to atlanta to receive similar treatment there at the emory unit hospital. 1300 people in three west african nations have been sickened by this ebola virus. 700 have been killed in west africa. but the feeling is this emory university facility has the best medical equipment and expertise to the centers for disease control in atlanta and have treatment for dr. brantly and nancy writebol. dr. sanjay gupta is a faculty member of emory unit hospital. he's joining us as well, helping us understand how highly
infectious this disease is and what a likelihood of the treatment is for these patients once they receive it there at emory and when this treatment actually begins now that dr. brantly has arrived. we still don't know if he has been transported out of the that ambulance into that hospital. >> a couple of points, this is a highly infectious disease and we've been making the point, there's a difference between being infectious and contagious. this is important because infectious basically means that a small amount of body fluid that contains the virus can cause an infection. it's not that contagious. it doesn't spread easily, certainly not through the air, so this is highly infectious, but not as contagious. we know that when we hear these awful mortality numbers from western africa, mortality rates are 60 to 90%.
meaning six out of ten to nine out of ten people will die if they contract this. the question has been if you take those same patients and put them in a situation where you have more resources, isolation units, you can better manage fluids, give back blood products, perhaps try experimental vaccines and medications, could you improve those survival rates. and the doctors here, i spoke to them them, he says he believes that absolutely to be true. that the 60 to 90% mortality rates will be greatly improved by being here and that's part of what drove the decision. he was working for a chartable organization known as sa marin b tin's purse. it was the organization that called emory, the cdc and started the wheels in motion for this whole medical evacuation to occur. i learned this yesterday, but the state department, u.s. state department, oversees an
evacuation like this, but this wasn't a question of obtaining approvals because dr. brantly is a u.s. citizen, he is allowed to return to the united states. this was more a question of lodgistics and emory is what the organization chose. >> and that emory said yes really speaks to its level of confidence then, doesn't it? >> i think so. and you know, we asked that same question and let me tell you, i pushed and asks if there were any reservations at any level from the health care providers to the administration to really anybody within the emory community. one of the anecdotes, the doctor who's going to be caring for them, there's a whole team of people involved with the care. two of the nurses were supposed to be on vacation this week. he said these two nurses came up to him and said we are canceling our vacation. we want to be here to care for this patient. this is what we do. this is what we're trained to do. and that's a little bit of the
sense that you get here within the medical community. they know how to do this and while ebola has never been in the united states before, certainly never in atlanta before, the protocalls, the methods by which you isolate somebody and provide care, those are the things they know really, really well. >> let's talk about that again because some may just now be voining us and didn't get to hear you explain this bubble like tent, this containment area within the cargo of the plane in which dr. brantly was installed before it actually went airborne, meaning the plane, then making its way to the u.s. and what kind of protections are in place to transport him from the plane into the ambulance to the airport. >> it's really excite extraordinary from a medical and technology standpoint, fred. i don't know if you're looking at these images now -- >> we are. >> we have some images inside the plane and think of this also like creating bubble, a bubble, maybe even a series of bubbles
to try and protect all the health care providers, the transporters, anyone involved with this patient. protect them from getting any bodily fluids from this patient on to them. that's really the goal of this sort of transportation. you want to make sure the patient is medically stable enough. you want to protect everyone involved and then you want to have a destination where they're going to provide care. but that technology is extraordinary after the plane lands, we saw the ambulance pick up the patient. you remember fred, we were talking about it onset, we didn't know if it was going to be a helicopter or ground ambulance. they made the decision for dr. brantly to go by ground along with people providing care for him and then arrive probably in some sort of protective bubble still or some sort of enclosure, something to keep him sort of isolated, if you will, from the people who are providing care for him. but it is, it's, you know, i've been a doctor for a long time. i've not seen anything quite like this, to be able to take
care of a patient with this sort of disease, ebola, in the united states with the types of resources that are here. you can see just everything that goes into making this all happen. >> and then as we continue to just rerack and look at the images, when we saw three people emerging from that emergency vehicle, two of which from the rear and for a moment, it looked as though one was assisting the other and then we highlighted an area where it started to appear like maybe instead of assisting one another, it was something that the two of them may be carrying, so it's unclear whether the patient is dr. brantly, is in the ambulance still and will be you know, taken out in a stretcher or whether dr. brantly is one of those standinging there and is also carrying something inside. is there any more to helping us to ascertain what we're seeing?
what would be logical? >> we did hear that dr. brantly's condition had stabilized in liberia. that made him a good candidate for medical transportation a few days ago, we heard he had periods where his health had deteriorated, so it's unclear what sort of medical condition he was in during the flight other than being stable. stable can mean a lot of different things, but if he was able to actually assist himself getting off the ambulance, i don't know. typically, after a long flight, a medical flight like that, people often need some sort of assistance or even to be carried in completely, but it's just unclear. but obviously, the people who are wearing those suits that you're seeing are the people who have the most direct contact with dr. brantly. it could be doctor, nurses, technicians, lot of different people involved with the transport like this.
don't know if it was the same exact team that was also on the plane that ended up coming by ground ambulance to the hospital. those are all, it's hard to tell, obviously, in part because of those suits everyone's wearing, but never the less, the mission an the goal is clear. we know that the isolation unit is here at the hospital. they want to get dr. brantly up to that isolation unit. it's not so much a question of urgency or even emergency, it's a question of doing it in a very methodical to minimize exposure to anybody else in the hospital. >> would you be able to paint picture for us what would not be in our view, once he were to arrive and go through any doors there at emory, would he put, be put in some sort of containment bubble similar to what we saw on the plane and then wheeled to the isolation area or would the ent
entry way take him immediately into that isolation area as it were kind of blocked off in a certain wing of the hospital facility. >> from a scientific perspective, keep in mind because this is not an airborne virus, people who are close, but even a few feet away are really not at risk. and i know that's alarming to people. that's scary, i've seen a lot of e-mails and things on social media about the concerns for the average citizen, they're just sploi simply not at risk. so, if the patient is covered in some way, so no bodily fluid can come off of the patient on to anybody in the surrounding area, that would not be an issue. so i don't know what that means for their specific protocall here. i'm sure part of that may have been dependent on how he was feeling during his transport, whether they would just go ahead and usher him through closed hallways, they don't want him coming in contact with people nonessential in getting him to the isolation unit, but simply
having an elevator. in many ways, like any other patient, except for the fact there's a bio contamination, bio hazard suits being put on to protect people who are in the most direct proximity and have some sort of responsibility for patient care. >> we're looking at the images shot friday when you were able to see this containment area, or at least the protection the medical community would be enduring that at the atlanta emory unit hospital. so, dr. gupta, nancy writebol of north carolina is the other humanitarian worker who will be making her way to the u.s. we understand that the plane, the gulf stream jet that flew dr. brantly in today is is now going to be in cartersville, georgia today. it will be prepped, suited for her arrival. it will make its way to liberia, pick her up and she will go through a similar kind of transport. so, once at emory hospital, are we sayings this containment area
is going to be suitable for more than one patient in the same room or this containment area has separate rooms for these two patients? >> there are sort of separate areas within the containment area, but we hear they are equipped to be able to handle at least two patients. an interesting thing, i was speaking to the doctor yesterday, i said what if there is a question of an exposure to a health care worker. what happens at that point and what was interesting, i think, maybe obvious to you at home, but the health care provider, whether it be a doctor, nurse, they would then also be on that isolation unit as well. so while they, until they either get confirm ed to have ebola or not, that would be then as well. so provider, patients together on the same isolation ward and the typical protocall at that point, if there's a question of exposure, is to take someone's temperature for 21 days. that is the longest period of
incubation time for ebola. if someone doesn't develop a fever, they are given the all clear sign, but they have to make those contingencies. you have patients who have ebola, if there was a questionable exposure, what do you do with that person. they've got to make sure they have those resources and spaces available as well. >> i have so many more questions, dr. gupta. thanks so much. we're going to take a short break and when we come back, we'll talk more about the transport of this first american with the ebola virus, transported to the united states now receiving treatment at emory, the hospital where dr. gupta is also a member of the faculty there and when we come back, i'm going to ask him about the protections for the medical community coming into contact with this patient, dr. kent brantly, beyond the protective suits, but does it mean those doctors and medical care workers will also have to be under a similar quarantine.
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome back. we have a lot we're covering for you from here in the united states, the transport of the first american with the ebola virus now being treated in atlanta, georgia. going to take you overseas to the middle east where wolf blitzer is in jerusalem as well as a number of correspondents in the region on the crisis in the middle east. our top story, the transport of an american doctor who contracted the ebola virus in west aftrica, now back in the united states. we understand he is in that ambulance right there. which was transported from an air reserve base in georgia and transported to the emory unit
hospital. we don't know yet whether he is actually exited that ambulance and has begun his isolation, but of course, as we get more information and better able to understand these images, we'll bring that to you. he is one of two americans who contracted the disease while overseas. his colleague, nancy writebol of north carolina, may be transported as early as next week. the same airplane that brought dr. kent brantly to the u.s. is being suited for the return to liberia, where it will pick up nancy writebol of north carolina. cnn's chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is as emory. you're also a member of the staff there, we all watched this ambulance make its way from the air reserve base in atlanta to emory unit hospital, but still unclear, dr. gupta, as we were looking at the images, unclear
whether the patient himself has been transported. have you learneded anything the there? >> we are getting notification that the patient is now inside the hospital. i'm not seeing the same images you are. i'm not sure what point that took place. it could be they assisted the patient/passenger, dr. brantly, off of the ambulance. he may have gone into a wheelchair after gettinging into the building, but we are hearing, we got a report from emory telling us the patient has arrived. we know the plane landed at 11:20 and the patient was here by 12:30. things went by pretty quickly, fred, and they say the patient has arrived safely. they made comment earlier that the patient was stable throughout the plane ride. that all obviously bodes very well. we heard a few days ago he had a deterioration in his condition. the images you were describing
that i saw some of as well, he did not appear to be on a breathing machine, even able to take a couple of steps himself. these are things that doctors look for and those things point to some potentially good news for him. long road still ahead, but again, maybe i'm stating this a a few times now, but this is a first. this has not happened before. you have not had a patient with ebola in vaatlanta, in the unit states or even in the western hemisphere of the world. the doctors here, the team, feel very, very ready and equipped to be able to handle this. >> and this doctor, dr. kent brantly, clearly making huge risk, calculated risks to do this kind of humanitarian work in an area that has been stricken in a big way by this highly infectious disease. so, one has to wonder whether he
is also allowing himself to be used as research and that's in large part why emory hospital and its relationship with the cdc has been selected, he is hoping his treatment may benefit in the research of this very mysterious virus. what do you think about that notion? >> yeah, i think the first and foremost, the goals, i can tell you at a clinical hospital like this under these sorts of situations is to provide patient care. i think that's first and foremost the goal. that's what sort of allows this sort of extraordinary effort to take place. is that you think you have a better chance of saving someone's life if they are here at this location versus where they were. that's what drives the decision, but there are some interests in these experimental vaccines and
medications, some of which have been in trial for some time around the world. we know the doctors here have been talking to the doctors at the national institutes for health, the food and drug administration, about trying to see if maybe they would fast track one of these vaccines for use in dr. brantly or obtain a compassionate care, compassionate use clauses, so that may happen. that may be part of the research as well. they will certainly examine blood, antibodies, but first and foremost, i think they want to roh sprid the best care they can and want to implement it reliablely. there's not a magic potion as you and i have talked about, about being able to give back fluids as necessary and blood. those end up being a big deal when taking care of a patient with ebola. you're allowing the body to fight the virus and keeping the body alive during that time. that's the real goal of what is known as supportive care. and they just feel like they can do that really, really well here. >> and sanjay, when you went to west africa, we saw it again
with the medical community in the protective suits today and on friday when they demonstrated to you at emory, the precautions they would take, but can you give me an idea to what extent the precautions are being made for the medical community? those who come into contact with dr. brantly and miss writebol as well. beyond the protective suits because there is an incubation period of some 21 days if you've been exposed, would it be expected that in of those members treating this doctor or miss writebol, that they would have to stay in quarantine or isolation areas during the period of their treatment? >> it's a great question. and i asked the same question to the medical team here yesterday. would they have to basically stay in the hospital, stay in the isolation ward during this time. here's how they explained it. if there is a known exposure, if some of the bodily fluid gets on
your skin or there's an accidental needle stick, blood is being drawn and the needle is introduced into someone else's skin, those are the exposures and that would warrant isolation, but short of that, if you're wearing these suits, they're designeded to be impermeable. if there's no concern about an exposu exposure, these doctors, nurses, the teams, they will be able to go home. dr. ribner, who's going to be leaving the team. he lives here in atlanta. he's married, has children. he's going to be going home every night. i asked him, i said, you got the call saying this was going to happen. did you have any reservations. no. then the next person, you call your wife and explain this to her as well and he said her response was you've been training your entire life for this sort of thing. you've got to do this. but he did tell us that he is
going to go home every night. if the patients are critically ill and he needs to stay, that would warrant him staying, but other than that, he doesn't see a need for him to stay in isolation. >> it's a giant commitment. we know dr. brantly is appreciative of that as will be miss writebol and really the entire medical and research community, which hopes to learn and gain a lot more about how to treat, perhaps how to e rradica or eliminate or slow down the growth of this highly infectious disease, ebola virus. we're going to check back in a moment because we know there are other developments that we're hoping to learn about the transport of this patient and the next step. what is straight ahead. the other big story we're following today, the fighting in the middle east. wolf blitzer is there live in jerusalem. we'll go there next for the latest. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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hello, again, everyone. we'll get back to our coverage of the first american with ebola virus transported to the u.s. for medical treatment, but first, our other top story, the crisis in the middle east. wolf blitzer is live for us in jerusalem. what's the latest? >> there are dramatic developments happening now here in the middle east. the prime minister of israel is getting ready to make a major address to the israeli public about where he is going. where israel is going next as far as this operation in gaza is concerned. there may be some unilateral israeli moves to start withdrawing israeli ground forces from gaza. the top of the hour, the prime minister will be in tel aviv and make i making a major announcement. all this comes a day after the
violence in gaza with a lot more shelling, a lot more death. one strike in gaza actually hit a unit. the university of israel says hamas was using to work on weapons. israel has accused hamas of captures an israeli soldier. they have denied that. it's not clear that's happened to that israeli soldier. also, today, egypt is pushing for a new cease fire and delegation headed to kcairo today, but according to media report, israel is not sending a delegation, at least not know. in the united states yesterday, the u.s. congress approved $225 million to support israel's iron dome antimissile defense system. let's go to sara sidner in southern israel near the border with gaza. she's got more of what's going on. we expect to hear from the prime minister at the top of the hour. prime minister netanyahu and the word is he's going to make some unilateral announcements, starting to withdraw israeli
ground forces from gaza keeping the air power in place, keeping naval power potentially in place, but start moving those ground troops out. what are you seeing on the ground where you are? >> well, what we've been hearing are the thunderous booms of artillery going from the israeli navy. we've also been hearing quite a few iron dome, basically the rockets coming over, there have been quite a few starting to cross southern israel today. in the last few hours, especially plenty of that, we understand that a 70-year-old man was actually severely injure ed after being hit by a mortar in the counsel area as well of israel. certainly, the fighting continues, but there is a lot of talk about exactly what happens next. what do you do after you're in your fourth week of fightinging. what happens next and remember, we talked about this, it was on
your show when we heard from the southern command, that basically said look, it's in the next few days, perhaps a week, we will complete our mission, so bill curious to hear what ben jamin netanyahu says about 45 minutes now. the country will be b watching for sure. certainly people curious exactly what he is going to do and say and what that's going to mean for the israeli soldiers on the ground and of course, what that's going to mean for the people in gaza. hearing from the health ministry in gaza, that more than 1650 people have been killed. they say most of them are civilians and much of gaza has been just blown apart. the pictures are absolutely just devastation across a lot of gaza strip. >> sara sidner reporting from near the gaza border in southern israel. thanks so much. i want to go to cairo now.
as this palestinian delegation as far as you know, already arrived in cairo for talks with top egyptian officials on the agenda of course is trying to come up with some sort of cease fire. >> wolf, that's not clear. what we know according to palestinian authority leaders is that representatives of various palestinian factions are making their way to cairo. again, it's not clear if they have arrived, but here's the problem. if you're going to negotiate, you need two sides and with israeli leaders making it clear they're not planning to come at this point. it's not going to do any good with the palestinian leaders here, but obviously, a lot of people around the world want these two sides to stop fighting. to get to cairo and sit across the table and establish, reestablish the truce talks, but unfortunately at this point, not a lot of movement on that front. we've been talking to egyptian officials for the past 24 hours and they sounded seemingly more optimistic yesterday, but as we go in deeper foo into saturday,
it's now roughly 8:00 p.m. here, you get the sense, the hopes for truce talks between these two sides are slowly fading although egypt has not given up. earlier today, president fatah held a news conference and a lot of people were eager to see if he would make reference to the u.n. backed peace proposal yesterday. he didn't. instead, he made reference to the egypt proposal made back on july 14th. hamas immediately rejected that peace proposal by egypt, saying they weren't consulted and that cease fire proposal did not include hamas' demand, so again, much of the world watching to see if any group can end the fighting and get these two sides to sit across from the table together. at this point, nothing happening, but many here in cairo will be watching israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's speech to see if he
has news regarding the prosoez sal. >> i suspect he's going to start anonouncing some withdrawal, bu we'll see, but people here are getting ready for a major announcement from the prime minister of israel. let's bring in our guest right now, kai lev myers, a prominent attorney here. what do you make of the word on the street right now, what i'm hearing at least, is that there could be a unilateral israeli ground forces withdrawal that could begin and may be underway right now. >> actually, wolf, we've started to withdraw troops from the northern part of gaza and like you said, our prime minister will be giving an announcement at the top of the hour, so it looks like israel has determined -- on its terms, then it will withdraw unilaterally, which i think makes sense. fool me once, shame on me. fool she six times, shame on
you. we had all these cease fires that were grossly breached by the hamas and now, israel is determining under what terms it will withdraw from the operation. >> what are you hearing about this missing israeli soldier, second lieutenant who the israeli said was taken by hamas yesterday. now, there's conflicting reports. hamas is is denying it. there's fear he is no longer alive. >> i'm hearing what you're hearing. right now, people are saying that the chances are, he's probably no longer alive. we're still hoping and praying for better news, but that's all we know right now. >> and israel has undertaken a massive search in the southern gaza area. >> as far as i know, the search is still going on. >> so, you live here, you understand the mood of the country. does the prime minister have the backing of most israelis right now? is there division within the country? because the pictures we see out
of gaza are awful. >> the vast majority of israeli citizens wants our government to get the job done, then pull our troops out. nobody wants this to continue forever. nobody is saying let's reconquer gaza, but the question is, have they gotten the job done. these tunnels are and for our citizens, tomorrow, a terrorist can pop out of their backyard and fire on them is a very scary thing and so, people want to make sure the job is done. the vacuum that the prime minister has is make sure you get the job done before you pull out your troops. the military personnel, they think most of those tunnel have been identified and almost destroyed. there may be a few others. are you hearing the same thing? >> today is that the vast majority of the tunnels have been destroyed. these are underground. it's obviously, some are under for instance, the main operation
based in hamas is under the hospital in the center of gaza. well, we can't go and destroy that because it would harm so many citizens and so, there's no way to 100% eradicate it. >> that would be one explanation why ground forces are coming out. we'll hear from the prime minister of israel in a couple of hours. there's the news. we'll stand by to hear from the prime minister netanyahu, he'll be address iing the nation shortly. we'll see what he announces and where this takes the military situation in gaza right now. lot more news coming up we're following very closely. >> look forward to that. thanks so much. we'll have much more after this. honey, look i got one to land. uh-huh. (vo) there's good more... honey, look at all these smart rewards points verizon just gave me. ooh, you got a buddy. i'm like a statue. i just signed up and, boom, all these points.
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zwl gl @ was -- a soon to be leased report detailing the cia's interrogation program. to talk more about this, i'm joined by josh rogen, the correspondent for the daily beast. what do we believe josh is coming? >> the white house has sent back the senate intelligence committee the final redacted version of a 6200 page report that details interrogation and detention practices by the cia all over the years in the years following 9/11. according to everyone who has seen the report, it's going to reveal new details about the way we captured and interrogated people and according to president obama, about the way we tortured people. it seem that is the committee itself won't use the word torture, but what president obama said yesterday is that anyone who reads it will have to conclude it's torture. that means that there could be political diplomatic and even legal implications of the report. it's also caught up in this huge fight between the cia and
democratic community staff led by dianne feinstein, the cia and spying of computers of investigators. they admitted that yesterday and also, there's a republican minority staff here that wasn't involved in the report and they're going to call in a political hack job, so when this comes out, unless it leaks hopefully to me, we're going to have this huge food fight erupt and also we're going to learn a lot about how our nation acted. >> the president has been on record as saying torturing endangers americans, especially those in military uniform by having a policy that allows or even if it's not a policy, a practice of interrogation of torture. certainly, endangers them. i wonder if there's the same feeling about release of this kind of information, whether it, too, threatens to endanger those in uniforms abroad.
>> it's a great question. one issue is did the cia lie to its bosses, to the congress, to the american people about what they were doing. the second issue is were those interrogation techniques affected. did they produce unique intelligence and were they better than all of the other ways we used to get information from suspected terrorists. and the third issue is the one you just brought up, which is when this information becomes public, no matter what it is, what will the reaction around the world be? will people in u.s. embassies abroad be under danger? has the state department repaired? they say they have. republicans on the senate intelligence committee are not sure, but the bottom line, a lot of this information is going to come out. there's a fight over how much. regardless, we're going to learn a lot of shocking and new details about interrogation techniques that were performed by cia personnel or their
contractors and people are going to be outraged both here and abroad and according to president obama, that's part of what we have to do to own up to our behavior. >> what's the timetable on this release? >> the senate got a version yesterday. they're fighting now with the white house and intelligence community over getting a few more details released, but now that a lot of people have this declassified version, it could leak out any moment. the committee said they won't release it until -- so that means the formal release will probably come next week. >> all right, thanks so much. senior national security correspondent for the daily beast. you let us know if you get your hands on that since you are eager to do that. thank you. still ahead, as the body count keeps rising and the wounded file in to hospital, we are going to hear from a member of the palestinian parliament. we'll get his take on the conflict in gaza next.
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officials now believe 90,000over those children will come to thest u.s. by the end of the year. they say the flow appears to be slowing down. experts are searching the crash site of malation flight 17 for human remains. it's the third day they've had access to the debris field since the boeing 777 crashed two weeks ago. meanwhile, fighting continues near the area. undocumented immigrants in colorado are now getting driver's licenses in the state. the new program started yesterday. state officials say the program will make the streets safer. it requires both written and driving tests. they say it rewards people for people in the u.s. illegally. and if you have the unlimited data plan from verizon, they say watch out. the company says they will slow
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against gaza about a half hour from now. israel says it has struck 200 so-called terror targets in the last 24 hours and a new video shows the israeli military blowing up tunnels. they have sent text messages to residents of northern gaza letting them know they can return home. israel is hunting for a soldier it says was kidnapped by hamas on friday, but the armed wing of hamas says it is not holding israeli lieutenant. arab leaders usually support, but in this conflict, hamas is finding little support from its arab neighbors. brian todd has the story. >> just two years ago, a hamas leader embraces mohammed morsi
during a meeting in cairo. a powerful symbol -- a deeply concerning image for israel. >> that has now fallen apart. the muslim brotherhood, leadership's in jail. after tossing morsi out, egypt's authoritarian government has turned against hamas and egypt's not alone. across the arab world, the rulers of saudi arabia, jordan and united arab emirates, they are looking the other way. >> they are eyes on, we don't want these kinds of guys to win. if israel beats them up, well and good. >> none of those arab leaders woul ever publicly support israel, but none are rushing to support hamas in this battle. our efforts to get comment from their representatives in washington and the region met with stone silence, but saudi arabia's former intelligence chief writing in an arab newspaper says hamas' readiness to cause a great deal of suffering shows hamas is irresponsible and on egyptian
tv, commentators don't hold back in blasting hamas. >> people are revolted by you. get lost. you make us nauseous. the whole world goes to hell because of you. >> hamas is seen by many in the arab world as an extension of the muslim brotherhood. puts the leaders of egypt, uae, jordan and saudi arabia have been battling for years. >> if they succeed, the question will be why can't they take over the gulf states or egypt. >> hamas and the muslim brotherhood won power in actual elections. >> they have been part of these uprisings, revolts all around the region. egypt, tunisia and elsewhere, for democratic reform and they don't want to see that kind of reform happen in their own coun countries because they are
worried about maintaining their own regimes. >> this conflict may well drag on. israel analysts say will likely get more breathing room, more latitude from its arab neighbors to keep pounding on hamas all in a wink and a nod, all unspoken, at least publicly. >> all right, let's go to jerusalem. wolf? >> thanks very much. want to bring in a member of the palestinian parliament. he's also the founder of the palestinian national initiative. he's joining us live from the west bank. i'll get to the report in a moment, but we're hearing at the top of the hour, the prime minister of israel is going to announce that israel's starting if it hasn't already, withdrawing its ground forces from gaza. what do you make of that? >> what is announced means three things. first of all, that israel is admitting it has failed in its operation in gaza.
they wanted in my opinion, to reoccupy gaza. that's what many israel minister said and they wanted to uproot existence there and failed. segd thing, it means that israel refuses contrary to so many reports, that international immedia media, especially american media, refuses to have a formal cease fire and it is israel now refusing to send a delegation to cairo. what that means, third, is that israeli wants to keep attacking gaza, keep conducting air strikes and massacres there. and takinging away the lives of palestinian civilians. so far, we have lost 1,670 palestinians in gaza. and 9,000 have been injured. mostly civilians, mostly women and children. if that had happened in the united states, if gaza had the population of the united states, we would be talking about the loss of a million people killed
and about 1.5 million americans injured. let me remind you that in 9/11, the horrible effect the united states took away 4,000 lives. here, we would be talking about 250,000 lives. it's amazing how great this devastation is in addition of course to the devastation of the infrastructure on the ground and yet -- >> what do you make -- >> decides to award their aggre aggressor. >> what do you make of the fact that when it comes to who was responsible for breaking that 72-hour proposed cease fire yesterday? the president of the united states, the secretary of state? they directly blamed hamas. they took the israeli position, they didn't take the hamas position. >> and they were both wrong. they were wrong because that cease fire was not a real cease fire. we spoke about that yesterday. israel was allowed to continue
its military operations while the palestinian side would abstain from responding and the cease fire broke because the army invaded areas and palestinians responded, so it failed. the cease fire was not proper. cease fire means that nobody would shoot. cease fire mean that nobody would attack, but israel was allowed to continue attacking and in my opinion, conspired for that. but that is -- going raise big questions for mr. netanyahu. people in israel will ask netanyahu why did you do that. why did israelis lose 70 soldiers in the operation? and why did you commit these massacres against the palestinian people. one day, all the facts would be revealed and netanyahu would be account bable. if not, being accountable also in front of the international criminal court at one point in time. >> when you see what's going on
now, this palestinian delegation going to meet with the egyptian government, trying to talk about the cease fire, apparently, there's not going to be an israeli delegation unless they change their mind. we'll find out at the top of the hour when netanyahu speaks. what's going to be achieved when this palestinian delegation representing all the factions, including the palestinian authority and hamas meets with egyptians? what are they trying to achieve? >> first of all, the first very important reason is you have only five palestinian delegation and five palestinian position. on issues of the cease fire and the issue of the speech on gaza. again, this is contradicting. second, this delegation might be able to unify the palestinian position with egyptian and in that regard, it will stop the ability of israel. on the third time, if israel does not send a delegation, it will be clear to everybody that
it is israel that wants to continue this war and this violence and it is israel that is refusing to have arrangements with security available to everybody. at the end of the day, the world will be asking why israelis have the right palestinians should not. aren't we all equal human beings? entitled to security and peace? isn't it time to lift this on gaza? isn't it time for people in gaza to be able to work, to get education, health care? isn't it time to stop this devastation taking the lives of so many innocent people? >> let's see what the prime minister of israel announces at the top of the hour. we'll continue to get your reaction and watch what's going on. joining us from ramala on the west bank. once again, we're standing by for prime minister netanyahu's
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with rockets. i'm joined by foreign policy analyst and italian palestinian journalist, rula javreile in new york. how hopeful are you about this egyptian led effort to perhaps lay the groundwork for a new cease fire? >> well, you need to have the parties to have a cease fire and eventual political solution. israelis decided not to send a delegation and that means the palestinian side will speak to the egyptian side and it's, this is the fourth war in gaza and we didn't achieve any of the goals, which is security for israel and eventual political solution for the palestinians. it's time to understand that there's no military solution to this. we realize between 2012, the last war and this war, that hamas is much there's many tunnels we don't
know of. they probably destroyed some of them, but not all of them, and beyond that, there's human catastrophe taking place in gaza. the thing we need to focus on is a political way out of this. end this cyclical violence and guarantee for both sides. security for israel and aspiration of palestinians for freedom, dignity and other life that are met. otherwise we have a date every two or three years, have new conflicts and be talking about this again and again and again. >> you think it is more realistic to approach from a political standpoint because militarily, hamas is very strong and israel is very strong militarily, but to come from the political standpoint, is there a feeling that the palestinian people feel they're being represented politically by hamas in the right way. in other words, does hamas have the backing of the palestinian
people and what is the end point if the answer is yes on that. >> obviously hamas want an election, but the popularity of hamas was declining in gaza. they control gaza, they don't control the west bank. and in controlling gaza they show actually the palestinian people their perverse and cynical policies, and most policy in gaza would reject them if they run for election again. after this war and the destruction, i am not sure what the debate will be, and where their popularity stands, but we know one thing, and these are the facts. hamas managed to push israel to negotiate over one soldier, and release a thousand prisoners. hamas used violence and this is their goal, to push israel to negotiate. this is a tool they use. now we are talking about another soldier and another soldier in their hands.
moderates in the west bank, mahmoud abbas recognized the state of israel, cooperated with israel on security and in fighting hamas, and they got nothing out of negotiation. so this is what we are telling the palestinians. these are the options. either you vote for hamas and you will live all your life under siege or you live under military occupation, even when you recognize israel. we need to go out of this paradigm and remember, the israel prime minister who used to say i fight terrorists while i am negotiating, and i am negotiating while i am fighting terrorists. a double policy. we can't demilitarize hamas with the help of united states and international communities, but that needs to be coupled with deoccupation. the deoccupation of territories in the west bank and gaza can happen and can guarantee security of israel and that can be intertwined with demill tarization. >> all right.
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