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nancy writebol arrives. after a very long journey from liberia. to be cared for right here in the united states. she is on her way into the isolation unit to join brantly who's been there for two days. my colleague, wolf blitzer, is going to continue right after this break. a shocking attack in afghanistan leaves a u.s. general dead, 15 troops injured. the shooter reportedly wearing an afghan military uniform. also right now, mission accomplished. that's what the israeli military tweeted today after pulling his ground forces out of gaza. so far, a three-day cease-fire, at least the first several hours, seems to be holding. right now, a second american diagnosed with ebola has arrived at an atlanta hospital. a major airline is suspending flights to parts of west africa because of, quote, health concerns.
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i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. we just learned from the pentagon the gunman is believed to be an afghan soldier. let's go straight to our white house correspondent jim acosta. update us, what we know right now. >> wolf what we can tell you right now, as the pentagon and white house briefings are under way simultaneously, this is obviously the major topic coming up that the president has been briefed on. this attack at this military training academy in afghanistan and the pentagon press secretary, rear admiral john kirby, just a few moments ago, confirmed to reporters, a u.s. general was killed in this attack, and the assailant at this point is believed to be an afghan soldier. kirby added this happened as the general was visiting this academy outside of kabul, the capital in afghanistan. along with this general who was killed, some 15 other both coalition forces and afghan forces members were injured,
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including a german brigadier general. you know this, these kinds of attacks, these green on blue attacks, or insider attacks, as they're called, are not that unusual. there have been dozens over the last several years. and 61 coalition forces were killed in 2012. only a few this year, including this u.s. general. so they have been on the decline, but they're not unusual. in the meantime, over at the pentagon briefing earlier in the last hour rear admiral kirby was asked whether this might get in the way of the trust being developed. those afghan forces being trained to take over the mission in afghanistan. the pentagon press secretary said that was not going to be a problem. and at this point, they're still moving forward with pentagon and u.s. plans to hand over that combat operation to those afghan
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forces. wolf, all of this comes at a very critical time for the u.s. president obama announced his transition plan for afghanistan, his plan to leave a residual force in that country next year. roughly 10,000 u.s. service members. that will dwindle down to nothing in 2016 when the president says the u.s. will completely withdraw from afghanistan. all of that hinges on a bilateral security agreement being signed by the next president of afghanistan. and as you know, that election has been in some turmoil in recent weeks. now there's an election audit under way. i talked to an official earlier this morning that said they're confident the next agreement will be signed by the president of afghanistan. the white house has warned repeatedly if the u.s. does not have the bilateral security agreement, there will be a total u.s. pullout by the end of the year.
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attack on the u.s. general, that has left this u.s. general dead -- by the way the highest ranking killed in afghanistan since 9/11. that this obviously is going to raise all sorts of questions as to whether or not this residual force plan being put forward by the white house is the right plan moving forward. they're going to be some arguing on capitol hill that more forces are needed and that this incident may highlight that need as we move forward. we'll have to wait and see what happens. this white house briefing is going on right now. we'll let you know if word comes out of that briefing from white house press secretary josh ernest in the minutes ahead, wolf. >> the pentagon not identifying the general killed in afghanistan, pending notification. we'll get back to you. jim acosta at the white house. what does today's attack tell us about the conditions in afghanistan? right now, nathan hodge is joining us, a reporter for "the wall street journal." he's in kabul right now. nathan what do you know about
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what exactly happened today? you're closer to the scene than we are. >> this attack occurred at a facility that could probably be best described as sort of the afghan west point. what's happening right now is the transition where u.s. and coalition forces are in the process of basically exiting the country by the end of the year. at least combat troops. slated to exit by the end of the year. this training has taken place so that afghan -- future afghan officers will be able to capably run and provide security forces to fend off the taliban threat that continues to be quite persistent and opposing the government here. this shooting took place in what's usually considered to be a relatively secure facility where afghan officers are trained under international supervision. but what we understand happened today was that the attacker, armed with a light machine gun, opened fire admit day here during what the military called a key leader engagement.
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that's between officers and their afghan counterparts. what the military calls the danger of the green on blue attack. >> you probably remember, nathan -- >> -- for months -- >> i certainly do a few years ago, very different circumstances, a very different operation, but the u.s. embassy cia station chief, other high-ranking cia officials and other americans, were killed when a double agent, if you will, came into what was supposed to be a secure area and basically killed all those people. this is a very different kind of operation though, right? >> that's right. those kind of attacks were more frequent when coalition forces were accompanying afghan troops on the ground in joint patrol. yes, you're correct there were incidents where there were high-level infiltrators, if you want to call them that, who also -- who managed to get into afghan forces so that they could
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stage these kind of attacks. today, though, is most unusual because the rank of the people who were under attack. in addition to the american general, a german general was wounded. several senior afghan officials were also injured in the attack as well. >> do we know who killed the shooter? >> we don't, but afghan defense officials tell us the attacker was killed at the scene. >> we knew that. one quick question, nathan, before i let you go. hamid karzai, stepping down. they had an election. two finalists. they are both fighting each other. what's the latest on that front? the whole situation in afghanistan looks so ten wise right now. >> right, this weekend afghanistan was supposed to have had an inauguration for
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president karzai's successor. that didn't happen. the two contenders, former minister abdullah abdullah, are basically still fighting it out, as a result of an election being audited with international supervision. it may take weeks for those ballot boxes to be reviewed so they can cast out fraudulent votes. it will be weeks while this very tenuous transition is under way. >> there's a lot of u.s. troops in afghanistan right now. do you know how many american troops are still there as we speak? >> the current level, i don't know, but it's down from a peak of -- well, there were over 100,000 coalition troops here. at the height of the surge. right now, those numbers have shrunk quite dramatically. if there is a residual source, it would be just shy of 100,000 u.s. troops. an advisory mission chiefly. would probably include a special operation component.
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but much, much smaller than was what was here at the height of the u.s. military involvement. >> if you can't trust your supposed allies to protect you, whatever american troops are still there, they all could be in harm's way, even when they think they're in a safe secure area. nathan hodge of "the wall street journal," thank you very much. other news we're following. just over 12 hours and counting. that's how long the cease-fire between israel and hamas has been in effect. so far, appears to be holding. the challenge now is to turn it into a long-term deal. israel says it has pulled its ground troops from gaza during the 72-hour humanitarian cease-fire. the israeli military says troops are in defensive positions outside gaza, all in israel. the truce gives people a chance to do everyday activities like buying food, stocking up on supplies. officials hope it will lead to negotiations to result in a more
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lasting peace. egypt, under the new president abdel as fazel sissi, brokered agreement. telling cnn, i'm quoting, we're waiting on the israelis to show up. both israel and hamas are keeping a wary eye on one another, even with the cease-fire in place. hamas fired a barrage of rockets. israel launched air strikes just before the truce went into effect. one rocket fired from gaza apparently landed in the west bank, but there were no reports of injuries. we're going to continue to watch what's going on. we'll check in with jake tapper. he he's in jerusalem. that will be coming up shortly here on cnn. a second american infected with the ebola virus is back in the united states, is in a hospital in atlanta. the latest on her condition. more on the experimental drug that may have saved her life. all that, a lot more, when we come back.
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let's go to jerusalem. cnn's jake tapper is reporting from israel this week. jake, tell us how this cease-fire seems to be working out. what, 12 hours, no violations as far as we can tell. what are you hearing, what are you seeing over there? >> well, it started obviously at 8:00 a.m. local, just after -- a couple hours after sunrise. you can see, wolf, we made it to sunset, so almost one day has passed with the cease-fire still being held. the indications seem to be from all accounts that both hamas and israel and of course the other palestinian players that are part of the cease-fire, want it
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to last. so far, it has. the next step, of course, will be for israel to send a delegation to cairo to talk about not only the cease-fire but the next steps, lifting the, for want of a better term, blockade on gaza, as well as what israel wants, the demilitarization of gaza. those details remain to be worked out. as of now, so far so good. wolf. >> yes, 12 hours, especially compared to all the other cease-fires, none of which lasted very long at all. so we'll continue to watch that. let me switch to afghanistan right now. you wrote a major book on the subject. you've been there several times. give us some thoughts on what happens today. because these attacks -- this particular case, according to the pentagon, an of an gone saf soldier killing an american general and wounding other
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military troops, u.s. and international partners. what's going on there? because it's still a very dangerous situation, even as u.s. troops are trying to get out of there. >> that's right, it's very volatile. obviously, it's a horrific situation. our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of this incident. one thing people should keep in mind is this is something, the u.s. military can be criticized for many things, but this is something that the u.s. military has taken seriously. there was a peak of these events. in 2012, there were 61 deaths, u.s. or coalition troops killed by afghans in the so-called green on blue events. and then the u.s. military really started cracking down. they even had individuals who were assigned to keep a watch over afghan troops when they worked with american troops or coalition troops. they were called guardian angels. it's not the case that every time there's one of these incidents it was definitely
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taliban, somebody who was planted in there to carry out, for want of a better term, an assassination or massacre of u.s. troops. sometimes it's other events. sometimes it can be somebody who has a mental breakdown. it can be an afghan who had death in his family because of the war in afghanistan. it really depends. i think in 2012, when there was this peak of green on blue deaths, i think it was estimated that roughly half of them were taliban infiltrations and the others were other events. we have to see of course what the details are of this event. but it is something that the u.s. military has taken seriously, but obviously, they can't prevent all of them, wolf. >> let's not forget, as of the end of may, there was still some 30,000, 32,000 u.s. troops in afghanistan, supposed to go under this year, so they are still watching their fellow afghan troops very closely now, especially in the aftermath of what has happened today.
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to our viewers, "the lead with jake tapper" will air today at 4:00 p.m. eastern. jake's in jerusalem. he'll have all the latest developments on that, plus all the other major news of the day as well. we'll be watching. 4:00 p.m. eastern. still ahead, up next, we're going to bring up to date on the condition of a second ebola patient now evacuated to the united states. the latest concerns on the spread of the virus outside of west africa. there's a gap out there. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. at humana, we believe the gap will close when healthcare gets simpler. when frustration and paperwork decrease. when grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home. so let's do it. let's simplify healthcare. let's close the gap between people and care.
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a second american infected with the beale virus is now back in the united states. nancy writebol was evacuated
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from liberia, flown to atlanta, arriving just a little while ago. she joins dr. brantly, already being treated at emory hospital. sanjay, you know that hospital well, you do surgery there. tell us what we know about her condition, the transport, how did it go? >> well, we hear the transport went well. sort of as expected. no surprises. we know before she left liberia, she obviously needed to be medically stable enough to make the 6,000 mile journey from monrovia to atlanta. so that was obviously a good sign. unlike dr. brant brandly, remember, wolf, who walked off the ambulance, she was on a gurney. she was being transported that way. did not look to have a breathing machine or ventilator or anything like that with her. she's going to be taken up, my guess, to the isolation unit, and they'll start doing
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assessments. see how she's doing overall in terms of her health. also check specific organ functions. heart, liver, lungs, kidneys, to see how much -- of an impact this viral infection has had on her body. at some point, i know the family that's been here, they want to see her. we understand that may happen soon as well. they may even get a little bit of a briefing, the family might, around 2:00. i don't know if they'll have already seen their mother by that point. but i think that's sort of the plan. so we'll get some better idea on her overall condition, wolf, shortly. remember, she also got two doses of that experimental therapy that we've been talking about. we know the first dose did not have as profound an impact on her as it did on dr. brantly but the second dose seemed to have more of an impact on her. she's scheduled for a third dose on wednesday here now, wolf, in the united states. >> we were calling it top secret therapy, experimental therapy.
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it's really -- hasn't gone through all the tests formally you would use. but this is an emergency situation. that's why they're doing it, right? >> it had never been used in a human before, wolf. typically, the process with these things, as you well know, you go through a clinical trial process. you test it to see if it is safe. you test to see if it is effective. and then you figure out if you can make this something offered to the masses. that process did not happen with this particular medication known as zmapp. it was given. it was a bit of a gamble at the time. dr. brantly was the first to receive it. and according to reports, people would towho took care of him, t response was really dramatic. he was very sick. he called his wife, had a conversation with her. he thought he was going to die. at some point, he asked to be given the medication. by reports, within a short tyim,
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within 20 minutes to an hour or so, he started to have same impact from this. he went from grave condition to being able to shower the next morning before he got on the jet. so it's always hard to tell with these things when it's just a couple of patients. but at least so far it seems to have had some real impact. >> certainly does. all right. we'll stay in very close touch. quickly, any update on the patient in mt. sinai hospital in new york city who had some symptoms, some gastrointestinal problems, some fever? we're supposed to get the results maybe today, maybe tomorrow? any update on that? >> we've not gotten the test results back yet, wolf, but it's worth pointing out that the department of health, they weighed in on this as well, after reviewing the situation. really sort of deemed him to be really low risk. even though he did have fever, he did have abdominal pain, he
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was in west africa, that alone is not going to, you know, say you have ebola. it really is coming in contact with sick patients who have ebola before they really get concerned. as you well know, there's lots of different things that can give you a little bit of stomach upset and fever after you travel like that. >> i certainly do. all of us would travel a lot, we sometimes come home, we don't feel so great, but that's life in the fast lane. all right, sanjay, stay safe over there, emory university hospital. we'll be in close touch with you. sanjay gupta, always helping us appreciate what's going on. next, i'll get the palestinian perspective on the cease-fire that's under way in gaza, now more than 12 hours. a member of the palestinian parliament standing by to join us live. we'll get the israeli government's post-cease-fire plan. where do u.s./israeli relations also stand? and speak with mark regev, the spokesman, coming up as well. you're driving along,
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welcome back. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. let's get back to the crisis in the middle east. we're about 12 1/2 hours into the three-day cease-fire in gaza. let's get the palestinian perspective on ways going on. joining us from gaza is mustafa barghouti. thank you very much for joining us. a quick question before we get to some substance. how difficult was it for you to
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get from ramallah on the west bank, where i normally speak to you, over to gaza? was it difficult to get into gaza? >> it was extremely difficult, wolf, because the israelis would not allow me to cross through areas, so a trip that would usually take two hours from ramallah to gaza -- i had to travel for a day and a half, because i had to go to jordan, and then fly from jordan to egypt and then cross sinai and then spend the night in arish and then next morning go to rafah and cross through rafah. it wasn't easy at all. i mean, there were lots of restrictions. the israeli army was bombarding the area when i crossed. so we had to take big risk to get to gaza. but finally, i managed, after long wait and i am so happy to be with the people here in gaza. >> i'm glad you got there safe and sound. i'm glad that there's a cease-fire that's in effect right now.
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i'm encouraged, you know, as you know, i was there for almost four weeks. there were several false alarms. how do you think this one is looking right now, this cease-fire? >> it seems to be holding so far. yesterday, the israeli side kept bombarding gaza overnight. we were bombarded by the sea, from the air. f-16 jet fighters continued to throw bombing as well as apache helicopters and drones. until the very last moment, this morning, they're continuing to fire. there were also a few rockets shot from there. so far the cease-fire seemed to be holding. it seems the israeli army withdrew already blood from most of the areas except certain parts in the northern part of gaza. now we see a painful reality
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because the devastation, the destruction, is beyond description. i've never seen anything like that before. whole neighborhoods completely smashed to earth. i've met thousands of people stuck in shelters with no sanitation, no sanitation facilities. people have lost their homes, their clothes, their papers, their memories. and the biggest suffering is on the side of the children. two children stopped me in the sheriff fa hospital where they're standing with their families. and told me, you know, during the feast palestinian children get new clothes and so on, and two of these kids told me, we want our new shirts, you know. it was very, very painful to hear that. because now thousands of families have been really devastated. i don't think there is any justification for what the israeli army did to the people of gaza.
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there are many painful stories too. i saw a young girl whose name is amiriya khatab who's 2 years old left alone in the hospital, injured. she lost her mother, her father, in the israeli air strikes. her brothers, sisters, grandfather, grandmother. there's nobody there. the woman taking care of her is a woman who lost another daughter and her other daughter is injured. the human cases are beyond description. i visited the family of a handicapped girl who was staying in a handicapped house and their place was bombarded by the israeli airplanes. although it was a home for disabled people. three were killed. three were injured. and this young girl is having burns all over her body. plus a broken shoulder and a broken hip. although she has cerebral palsy. so the suffering in gaza is very
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big. what happened is unacceptable. >> it's an awful situation. let me ask you, if hamas had accepted the egyptian proposal for a cease-fire three weeks ago, which the israelis accepted the palestinian authority accepted, egypt obviously wanted it, the u.s., the u.n., a lot of that suffering could have been avoided if hamas would have done then what they have now done, accept a cease-fire. >> that's the israeli narrative, wolf, but it's not true. because what hamas accepted today and what palestinians accepted, because it's not hamas alone, and reality, we shouldn't be talking about hamas versus israel. or palestinians versus israeli side. what the palestinians accept today is not what the egyptians proposed three weeks ago. when the egyptians proposed, what they proposed, the israeli army would have stayed inside gaza. this is not happening today. the army have to get out so the
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cease-fire would last. i think there are great differences between the previous egyptian proposal and what is accepted now. now you have a unified palestinian position, all the parties together with demands including not only a cease-fire but a serious lifting of the seize on gaza. there is one very important proposal that i understand the depths and the value of, which is that gaza, from now on, should have an independent humanitarian passage to the world that is not controlled by any other country. we cannot continue to subject the lives of palestinians to the will of different israeli governments who decide from time to time to tighten or ease this terrible closure on the h humanitari humanitarian. we need the human passage that links us to the world. we need some hope.
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because all of this would not have happened if there was no siege. if people who are educated would have had jobs. if there isn't this terrible unemployment and terrible level of poverty. i don't think you can blame palestinians for refusing to allow the israeli army to stay inside gaza. i think that main party that should be blamed for this devastation and even for many israelis that should not have died is the israeli side that killed at least 1,866 palestinians and with the passage of every day, they are discovering new bodies, and the injury of 9,500 people. more than that. and this is very important for the world to know. because israel destroyed electricity, infrastructure, sewage systems, there is a very serious risk of epidemics. today in gaza, we had medical teams diagnosis several cases of meningitis and this is a very difficult humanitarian situation.
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>> dr. barghouti joining us from gaza, we'll stay in close touch with you, as we have over the last month. good luck over there. be careful. we'll hope that cease-fire holds and people can at least begin the process of trying to reassemble their lives. we'll see what happens next. dr. barghouti joining us from gaza city. up next, we're going to get the israeli perspective on ways going on. the cease-fire now continuing for about 12 1/2 hours. supposed to last 72 hours. see if it can last a whole lot longer than that. a spokesman for the prime minister of israel mark regev is standing by live.
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mission accomplished. that's the tweet sent out by the israel defense forces. when the latest cease-fire went into effect. in four weeks, israel destroyed 32 tunnels from gaza into israel built by hamas. joining us from jerusalem is mark regev, the spokesman for
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the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu. could be a little risky to use those words "mission accomplished." we don't know if the long term if the mission was accomplished, do we, mark? >> well, the jury's out on how this all turns out. we hope the cease-fire is sustained. we hope the border between israel and gaza will be quiet. we hope we don't have to worry about rocket fire from gaza into israel. we mohope we don't have to worr about terror tunnels with these death squads coming across the border, trying to kill our people. we hope all that's behind us. ultimately, the ball is in hamas' court. we'll be watching very closely to see if hamas does, in fact, honor the cease-fire. so far, we've had 8 1/2 hours. that's good. but we'll be watching closely to see how they behave in the future. we don't want to see a resumption of hose sttilithosti. if hamas reopens this conflict, of course, we will be ready to respond. >> now, is israel sending a
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delegation? is that delegation of israeli officials already left israel for cairo to begin the follow-up talks, part of the cease-fire agreement? >> of course. the egyptian framework says clearly immediate unconditional cease-fire and then negotiators meeting to discuss with the egyptians different details. where of course we've accepted that package. as you reported here, we accepted that package three weeks ago. three weeks ago. and hamas rejected it then. and we had three weeks of violence, of fighting, of rockets on israel, of combat in gaza. with a lot of hardship. a lot of suffering and death. i just don't understand how anyone can justify hamas' rejection of the cease-fire then, three weeks ago, and now, justify hamas only suddenly accepting it today. three weeks of violence paid for by hamas. and all the very difficult situation that exists today in as good as gogaza, there's one
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address for that, that is hamas, that started this conflict, and allowed this conflict to go on much, much too long. >> when will the israeli delegation begin the talks with the palestinian delegation and the egyptians? i assume the u.s., the u.n., other parties will participate. when will those discussions actually begin? >> there'll be -- i mean, the phones are being used the whole time. i expect our people to be in cairo within the framework of the 72-hour period. for us, it's important that this -- what we've just been through isn't repeated in six months or a year. that this is behind us. for us, it's crucial that hamas is not allowed to rearm. there's a signed palestinian commitment that gaza should be demilitarized. it's time the international community got behind and insisted that palestinians meet their own commitments. and it's crucial as a first step that we don't allow hamas to import more rockets from iran
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that we don't see qatari money being a hamas military machine again and they don't dig tunnels so they can't send death squads into israel. it's crucial hamas doesn't rebuild its terrorist machine. >> what did you think of dr. mustafa barghouti's proposal that there be an international open from gaza to the outside world not controlled by israel, not controlled by egypt, controlled by, i assume, some sort of international guarantee that would at least give the palestinians in gaza some breathing room, if you will? >> well, that's the position of hamas. and he was echoing khaled meshaal on that point, the leadership of hamas. it's clear why hamas wants such an opening. because they want to be able to import weapons from iran, weapons from syria and from -- money from qatar and turkey so they can rebuild their terrorist machine. the reason both egypt and israel have put restrictions on the border is because we don't want
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hamas to do that. and as long as hamas is committed to this violent jihad against israel, as long as hamas doesn't want to invest in the people of gaza but wants to invest in its terrorist war machine, of course, those restrictions have to stay in place. we can't allow hamas to have an open border with iran and with other countries who want to help them replenish their terrorist machine. i remind you that the u.n. secretary-general who established a special committee on this issue said the israeli blockade of gaza, the navy blocka blockade, to prevent the import of such weapons is legal under international law. as long as gaza is hostile, as long as gaza is violent towards israel, we have a right to prevent weapons arriving there. >> mark regev is the spokesman for the prime minister of israel. thanks, mark, very much for joining us. still ahead, we're going to continue our analysis of what's going on. it's a fragile cease-fire. hanging in the balance. i spoke to the hamas spokesman
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. as of right now, it appears that the 72-hour cease-fire between hamas and israel is holding but will this turn into something more permanent? a lot of people suspect the answer is no. the reason there's intense hatred out there. take a look at this clip from my
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interview with a hamas spokesman from last night's "situation room." >> so do you believe that jews used to slaughter christians? >> you have -- you have to ask that for the church which claims that, you know, this is the fact. you cut the woods. not you. they cut the facts. they say that they are innocent. they want to cover the genocide which is happening and they want to cover themselves when they are killing 2,000 palestinians,
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injuring more than 2,000 palestinians in an attack against gaza and they are connected to the same mentality which heads the others, this man which is the deputy speaker when he says, we have to put all of the palestinians in a concentration camp. what does it mean when you talk about palestinians, genocide is permissible. what does it mean? those people are the people who are hating the humanity. >> that was a clip from "the situation room" last night. i gave him several chances to deny his claims made the other day that jews killed christians for passover. he distanced himself from that despite my request for him to do so. let's bring in bobby who knows this subject well. why would he even say something as obscene as that.
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>> in a conflict where we see new depths and rhetoric, this is a blast from the past. this has been heaped upon the jewish people for centuries all over the world, in the arab world but also in europe and it's the root of anti-semitism. i can't figure out for the life of me why he would say that. you know in palestinian, in gaza, this has taken almost sort as the factual truth. a the lot of young people, that's what they've been taught in their mosques and schools and that's what their parents told them. but that's -- they have an excuse. they've never had an opportunity to learn differently. they've never had a chance to explore the facts of the case. but osama handa has no excuse. he has had an education and
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plenty of opportunity to make inquiries and understand that the blood libel is completely that. it's libel. it's untrue. why he says that completely baffles me. it's sort of a dog whistle to the people on the streets in gaza, i'm one of you. i believe in what you believe. he's part of the political leadership of gauza. they are in qatar and distributed elsewhere. the fighters on the street, as we've seen over the past several weeks, the fighters on their street basically go their own way from their political leadership. i can only suspect that he was trying to send some sort of a dog whistle to people back in gaza. >> it's disturbing when you think about it. what do you think about the cease-fire? forget about the blood libel and comments like that. do you think that the cease-fire will stay in effect and it could
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lead to some sort of progress down the road? >> well, there's a lot of pressure -- there's not much pressure on netanyahu from within israel to stop the offensive. it's clear that many israelis support the offensive. they want the idf to go and finish the job, which is the expression that they are using. what we are less clear about is whether, on the palestinian side, whether in gaza there is pressure in hamas to stop the fighting. it's hard to do polling in a war zone. but you have to think that hamas knows that the people of gaza have suffered enough. this has taken an enormous toll in blood, in people, and also in building and sort of physical infrastructure. so you have to think that the leadership of hamas feels a responsibility towards the people of gaza and therefore wants to at least explore the possibility of negotiation. now, what we saw from hamdan, of
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course, is a little glimpse of the difficulties. if others in the leadership think the way he does, believe if the myth of the blood libel, then that gives you a sense of the difference between reality and their position which makes it difficult to negotiate with these people. but the hope is that between the people of gaza and the external sort of arab community, that some pressure is being put on hamas to stop shooting, start talking. >> bobby ghosh, thank you for your perspective. that's it for me. thank you very much for watching. i'll be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern. an edition of "the situation room." brooke baldwin will start right after the break. your 16-year-old daughter
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and here we go, you're watchi watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. word that a u.s. general has been shot and been killed by a gunman believed to have been an afghan soldier. if you look at the map, this happened outside of kabul. as we've been talking to reporters, it's inside of kabul. we's likened to a version of