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hello again. i'm fredricka whitfield. these stories are topping our news this hour. the u.s. justice department takes action in the michael brown shooting investigation by ordering a federal autopsy on the slain teen. the reason behind the decision and the high profile pathologist who is conducting an independent review at the family's request. plus, police in ferguson, missouri, are imposing a curfew for a second straight night after a weekend of unrest. >> this is the police department. you must disperse immediately. tear gas and smoke filled the streets. we'll tell you what happened after that. a stepped up offensive in iraq. u.s. air strikes hit isis
militants hard as a battle to control a strategic dam intensifies. we start in ferguson, missouri, where a rally for michael brown is expected to start just one hour from now. that's after another night of protests this time with bloodshed. police say a protester was shot early this morning and is now in critical condition. investigators say they don't know who shot him but say there was a person in the street with a handgun. protesters stayed out early this morning during the newly imposed curfew from midnight to 5:00 a.m. police used smoke bombs and then tear gas to try to break up the crowds. seven people were arrested. police say the curfew will be in place again tonight. all of this as people have many questions about the shooting death of michael brown. people are leaving candles and flowers at the very spot where he was killed last week.
one autopsy has already been performed on michael brown and now in a major announcement today from the department of justice, a federal medical examiner will conduct a second autopsy. cnn's alexandria field and rene marsh are covering this story. the family asked for another autopsy to be conducted but explain now why the federal authorities are getting involved in this manner? >> reporter: well, fred, we can tell you the word from the department of justice, they are citing extraordinary circumstances in this particular case and so because of those circumstances, they have agreed to oversee the second autopsy. again, as you mentioned, a federal medical examiner will do this autopsy or conduct it as soon as possible. we're seven days in and we still do not know how many times michael brown was shot and the attorneys for michael brown's family believes that this second autopsy will help them to verify
how many gunshot wounds in michael brown's body and the trajectories. we also want to put this all in context. this is an extremely rare move for the department of justice. but they wanted to make it very clear here because they are making this move, they are not in any way, they say, expressing a lack of confidence in the state investigation because of course the state already conducted their own autopsy. they say that they will still be relying on that first autopsy but again because of the request of this family, they are stepping in to conduct the second one. fred? >> rene marsh at the white house. thanks so much. in addition to this federal autopsy, brown's family also brought in michael baden, a high profile pathologist, why? >> reporter: there is reason where you can see people would be concerned about the state's investigation of this case.
that's where michael baden comes in. they want someone to do an independent investigation or an investigation for them and they believe that mikemichael baden do that credibly. they add an expert to their team, pathologist michael baden. baden has brought his expertise to the stand in a number of closely watched cases. he famously testified in o.j. simpson's murder trial. he was chairman of the committee of pathologists that investigated the assassinations of john f. kennedy and dr. martin luther king, jr. >> why? because it ensures trust. trust is a very important thing. the family wants to know what happened and why should they just rely upon what the authorities tell them? >> reporter: earlier this week the st. louis county medical
examiner's office determined the cause of death was gunshot wounds but we're not specifying how many gunshot wounds at this point. the investigation into his death is still ongoing and the full autopsy is not likely to be released for many weeks because multiple law enforcement agencies are now involved in the investigation. mistrust between authorities and locals have exploded to the surface in ferguson, missouri, where brown's death has sparked a week of protests, looting, a shooting and sometimes violent responses from police. in their search for answers, the brown family has insisted on an autopsy from a federal medical examiner and the browns will now rely on a separate investigation conducted by their own expert. what else will michael baden look at in this case? >> we'll ask a lot of questions not only about the autopsy but about the gun.
is there only the police officoffice officer's dna on that gun or is michael brown's dna on that gun and that will say a lot whether a struggle for the gun took place. >> baden could look at a number of different factors concerning this case. the brown family is hoping that he'll provide them with some of the information that they've really been looking for, fred. >> thank you so much. back in ferguson, missouri, a rally for michael brown is expected to start just an hour or so from now. jason carroll is live inside the church where the rally will be held. jason, what's expected? >> reporter: yes, here at the greater grace church, a number of people have already started to file in here filling up all of the seats. a number of people want to come out and be together as a community and demonstrate and voice their feelings in a peaceful way. i want to bring in right now one of those people who came out with her daughter. you came out with your daughter. a lot of people here with families. i see a lot of children out here
as well. there's been a week of unrest in ferguson and someone told me i'm tired. i'm weary. i'm wondering, you as a ferguson resident, what are your thoughts on this sunday? >> i think that coming out today with the family, it will be, you know more peaceful today. maybe it will set a tone if this continues for the rest of the week. >> reporter: we were talking earlier about the curfew and your thoughts about that. is that something that you agree with? not agree with? >> i think so now with school starting that this should be a curfew right now. it's an iffy situation. >> reporter: very much so. i know also you had some very strong thoughts about the police response. earlier versus what we have seen just throughout the weekend. >> right. i think it was really excessive. i think it set a tone for the unrest, you know, how they came
out. i think that set a tone. a lot of people weren't agreeing with how they came out, with their military armor and everything. i think that that caused some of the looting and all that other kind of stuff. >> reporter: we'll have to see if there's a change inta tactic. i want to bring in diana clark. she's been out here as well. you came out with your entire family. you brought in your daughter, grandchildren as well. share with us if you will some of your thoughts a week later and after a week of unrest in ferguson? >> i think it's both a tragedy and a disgrace. a tragedy for the family that has to grieve over the death of their son and how their son died. and also a disgrace to our community because we deserve so much better. we worked so hard. me living as a resident in a surrounding community of university city, we try to embrace diversity and it is something that, you know, we try
to encourage in our children and in ourselves and as a retired educator, i would like students to go forward and learn from this and to strive for justice. >> as you know, the brown family will be here in just a few moments. they have repeatedly called for peace and for calm in the community. and yet their words don't seem to be being heard by some people who are out there. why do you think that is? >> well, it's possibly -- i can only just take a stab at it. you know, there is still a level of unrest. there's a level of unrest with our young african-american males who for so many years have gone unheard. it's a time of healing and not just for the family but for all students and teachers as well to help our kids to try to get over this. it is very difficult. it's not an easy task. >> all right.
diane clark, thank you for coming out and sharing your thoughts with us as well. again, fredricka, things are expected to get under way very shortly. expected to be here, the brown family, their attorney benjamin crump expected to speak. everyone coming together and wanting to share their peaceful thoughts during a peaceful demonstration. they're hoping for once that will carry through into the night. fredricka? >> all right. jason carroll, thank you so much. we'll check back 50 minutes or so from now when it begins there. all right. a curfew seemed to inflame some protesters in ferguson, missouri. we'll talk to the national head of the organization of black law enforcement administration. his advice to the ferguson police chief. l day relief. honey, you did it!
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live pictures right now in ferguson, missouri. people are gathering at a church there to be part of a rally for justice for michael brown. it begins in about 45 minutes. we understand michael brown's family will be there, his parents will be there, along with the family attorney. we'll continue to watch it and take you there live as it happens. meantime, last night despite a new curfew, police used smoke bombs and then tear gas to try to break up crowds of protesters. seven people were arrested. i want to bring in cedrick alexander. the president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives and director of public safety in dekalb county, georgia. good to see you. you are there in ferguson at the request of the ferguson police chief. before we get to the meetings that you had, i want to ask you first about this curfew now imposed for a second night. does it help keep the peace or does it aggravate it? >> you know, it's going to be a very difficult question to answer right now, fredricka.
i think the decision that they chose to make, they made that decision properly based on information and intelligence that they may have had so i certainly don't want to comment on what the reason for that decision but i think that will be determined here very shortly over time in regards to what really needs to be done. so i think we'll wait and see. >> your conversation with the ferguson police chief. he requested that you come to ferguson. what was your dialogue with thomas jackson like? >> well, i had great dialogue with him. we've had a number of very serious conversations in regards to some of the issues that have taken place even he has had some concern about it and said some other decisions could have been made but he's been open. he's been receptive. in the beginning of this he wish he had disclosed more
information more quickly and that certainly has been a great concern of a lot of people in this community. but one thing i shared with him going forward is that it becomes very important they share information with this community so it does not appear to be the secrecy and people are just asking for information to be shared with him but i tell you, he's been very amenable. i had an opportunity to talk with him and talk with a number of the clergy and other leadership in this community as well and one thing they all have agreed to is the fact that they have to open up a line of communication they're going to have to do work together and we are going to do what we can to assist them in bringing in resources to help this community to do something clearly they had not been doing in the past. >> that was your advice to the police chief. are you able to share with us what the police chief's point of view is on this and if agreement of sharing more information how immediately might that happen to help satisfy people who are
frustrated there in ferguson or whether this is something that he's proposing to do the next time there's a crisis? >> we're going to continue to monitor what happened here with the police department and with the community. now, he's assured me that he's going to be more transparent whenever those opportunities occur. so i think we're going to see together whether that's going to come to fruition. we're watching just as closely as other people in this community as well because we have a lot of concern with some of the things that have taken place and the conversation with him has been straightforward and rich and we'll see what will come out of it going forward. >> is it true part of that conversation was about trying to develop a relationship with the community and there isn't community policing that ferguson police haven't been exercising and it doesn't help they don't
have diversity on the police force with 55 officers, only three of whom are black. there isn't a feeling of people feeling a relationship. the community feeling a relationship with the police. so how did you advise this police chief to go about diversifying the police force if that's even a possibility? >> well, it's going to have to become a reality. one of the conversations i had with chief jackson is the fact that considering the numbers that you just articulated, he knows he has to move in a direction with support of the community in terms of trying to develop a strategic plan, one he can begin to exercise here soon in their hiring practices so they can find people of color to come in and be part of this police department, to be part of this community, and i think that's what people in the community are suggesting and
they certainly want and when you have a community that's 70% african-american and they are represented clearly in no numbers in the police department, that becomes a main concern and is clearly obvious to everyone that's watching this community right now. >> thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. and right now overseas, the battle is raging for iraq's largest dam. we'll go live to the region and find out why the destruction of this dam would be catastrophic for the country and the war against isis. ♪ [music] defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. easily absorbed calcium plus d. beauty is bone deep.
in iraq, u.s. warplanes and drones attacked 14 isis targets near mosul today. this followed nine air strikes by the u.s. yesterday. right now kurdish peshmerga fighters are battling isis on the ground and are close to controlling the entire dam once again. we go to iraq just north of mosul. you just came back from being embedded with kurdish forces. did you see any evidence they are indeed about to retake that dam? >> yes. certainly they were making huge
advances across the day throughout the day really bombarding the enemy line with mortars and rockets. we saw smoke on the horizon from targets they were hitting. it really dropped off as those peshmerga forces made gains. you mentioned u.s. air strikes. they have been essential to this campaign. obviously nine yesterday. we heard the jets above of skies patrolling skies today adding reassurance and giving those soldiers the confidence they need to take this fight to isis. as militants were retreating they were laying land mines in the roads in the fields in houses and this obviously created great problems for peshmerga forces. unfortunately one of the trucks on the large convoy got hit by an ied.
many were injured and one man died. we do understand they advanced past that line we were at late this afternoon and they are extremely close to taking the whole of the dam. >> all right. anna coren, thank you so much. appreciate it. back now to ongoing protests that have taken place in ferguson, missouri. the unrest and anger is affecting the entire st. louis area in fact. we're talking to a mayor of a town just two miles away from ferguson and how it's impacting her city next.
gas. a protester was shot but not by police. things got tense after midnight as police tried to enforce the midnight to 5:00 a.m. curfew. that curfew will be in effect again tonight. we're also learning the u.s. justice department approved a second autopsy on michael brown. it will be conducted by a federal medical examiner. brown was shot to death last weekend by a police officer. the anger over brown's death has rippled through the st. louis community to towns beyond ferguson. i'm joined now by the mayor of cool valley, which is just about two miles away from ferguson. mayor murphy, good to see you. >> it's nice to be here. >> so how has your city been affected by what's happening in nearby ferguson? >> economic downtime. right now we really haven't had a lot of things going on in the
city of cool valley because most of the demonstration is going on on the other side of the city. >> so do people in cool valley feel like this has hit so close to home for them as well as though something like this has happened to their community? >> sure. you know, cool valley is just right down the street from ferguson and we're headed into economic development of our city. as a matter of fact, next month we break ground on some things that have been in place so everything that's going on at this point is affecting all of the cities that are around where we are having our protests. >> so i understand that ferguson police used to patrol your city of cool valley at some point. how long ago was that, a, and at the time, did it seem like a good relationship? >> they never patrolled our
city, but they dispatched for our city. and they had a working relationship with the cool valley police department but ferguson never patrolled our city. if our officers needed assistance, they would be there to assist them on whatever took place. >> and it always seemed to be a relationship that was cooperative? that worked? ever any complaints? >> any department has complaints so i'm not going to say there weren't any complaints over the years but i can only speak about cool valley. cool valley knew that it needed to make some changes and that's what we did. we looked at the economics of it to have a police officer in cool valley was over 60% of our budget. my board and myself and for the citizens that we served, we began to take a look of what
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>> first of all, it's been quite a week. the shooting of michael brown, young 18 year old in his own hometown shot down in the street, brought emotions out very raw. and appropriate. and as we move through the week when we saw the militarization of police response, i thought the best thing to do was to bring the highway patrol in late in the week and bring in captain johnson and get involved with less hard look. that went well until the second night and then we had some agitation. last night's curfew everybody worked well. we're always disappointed when things aren't perfect. thousands of people spoke last night. thousands of people marched and not a single gunshot fired by a member of law enforcement last night and members of the community tremendously helpful last night to get through what could have been a very difficult night. >> how long do you intend to enforce the curfew? what's the benchmark for lifting it? >> well, first of all, we wanted
to make sure when we saw that second night late, the clear actions of a few to loot, we knew we had to keep people's property safety and peace in order to get justice here. we can't be distracted by the longer picture and longer is to make sure that dual investigations, the justice department and local prosecutor are thorough and done. i thought this distraction and folks not feeling safe in their own homes while protecting the rights of people to protest was important and we're hoping -- we'll meet later this morning with the team last night and see how things from their perspective. we are trying to use the least amount of force to provide people to the ability to speak while also protecting the property of the people of ferguson. >> do you see the curfew staying in place for the next several days? is that what you're saying? >> it could be. we would like to see it ratchet down. that will be judged by the
community and like i say, i was heartened last night but the thousands of people there and as curfew approached, it was local folks helping us. earlier in the evening, they marched with folks and listened and talked it them personally last night and local officials called on me to call a curfew and local officials and citizens there last night were the greatest help. i think that's going to be part of the healing process. let's not kid ourselves. this was a horrific shooting. we're not to justice yet. there will be some moments of energy and angst over the coming days and weeks. >> and there are growing calls across the nation to demilitarize local police departments. our brian todd has more on the controversy. >> reporter: men in kevlar vests and helmets carrying automatic rifles moving in tactical military vehicles. these are police in ferguson. one observer thought he saw
police in a mind resistant ambush protected vehicle. this is not something we need in american communities. >> reporter: but more than 500 have made their way from afghanistan and iraq to local police forces in america just over the past couple of years. it's part of what the aclu in a recent report called the excessive militarization of american policing. indications of that are everywhere in ferguson. police in these towns are getting combat equipment free of charge from the pentagon. the defense department says just in 2013, nearly $450 million worth of military equipment was given to law enforcement. a defense official says ferguson police only got a couple humvees and a trailer. police departments throughout missouri, which are assisting in ferguson, got hundreds of m-16 rifles in recent years. critics say often when they get these weapons, policemen's
attitudes change. >> increasingly the police are trained to view the people in the communities that they're supposed to be protecting and serving as enemies. >> reporter: it's not just their possession of this equipment that's an issue. watchdog groups say many of these police departments lack the training and how to use these weapons responsibly and that often escalates the dangers. dangers like police overreacting when conducting minor operations like serving search warrants. >> they will drive holding people at gunpoint and yelling at everyone to get on the floor. this is a traumatic experience. we've seen situations like this where people are traumatized and sometimes people are injured and killed. >> reporter: but current and former police say criminals have more firepower and law enforcement can't afford to be outgunned. >> if people are shooting at the police and committing violent acts, the police need to protect
themselves. >> reporter: it would take you and me four to six weeks to secure a passport, your local police force need only fill out a one-page form for an armored personnel carrier. brian todd, cnn, washington. how do parents explain to their children what happened in ferguson, missouri? [ male announcer ] if you're taking multiple medications, does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene. available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel, biotene can provide soothing relief, and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. remember, while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isn't. biotene -- for people who suffer from dry mouth.
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the fatal shooting of michael brown in ferguson, missouri is, bringing to light a sad reality for many african-american parents. how do you explain what happened and what is the conversation going to be like? stephanie elam talked to families about how they deal with these situations. >> as a parent you have to worry about everything that happens when your parents step outside. >> reporter: regardless of wealth, education or shade of brown, parents across this country are worried. >> it makes me think about one of my own. >> reporter: trayvon martin, now michael brown in ferguson, missouri. another unarmed black teen dead. >> here we go again.
>> reporter: how to keep black boys safe. i talked with several parents. all of whom who say there are unwritten rules for raising black boys. understand they may be judged by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character. >> you show me your friends, i'll show you your future. >> pull the pants up. >> do not have more than three friends in your car. >> reporter: brent and andrea talk to their sons about staying safe. ize isaiah is 15 years old. >> they're supposed to keep us safe but these actions make it hard for us. who do we turn to? if the ones protecting us are hurting us, who do we turn to? >> why should we be afraid to walk down the street and get discriminated because of the way i look? >> reporter: it's a lesson that can rob them of their childhood innocent. they also talk about racial
profiling. >> we worry all the time. it's going to happen more and more often as he goes on in life no matter what he does. >> reporter: steve perry is the founder of a school. >> if you have a black son and you're not explaining to him what he needs to do out on the streets and how he needs to dress and to explain to him that he actually does have a target on his back, then you are not doing your job as a parent. >> reporter: kelly's son is 26. she still reminds him of her rules for survival. >> i have had these conversations with my son since middle school on how to behave when the police comes, this is what you do, this is how you speak to them. do not get in a power struggle. it's just not worth it. >> i think she has a right to worry. she's a little bit too worried but, i mean, i don't blame her. >> reporter: kelly's son, joseph, was reluctant to speak with me. what made you change your mind? >> i figured i would like to give a perspective of a kid who, you know, i don't look like trouble. i don't dress like it.
i went to college and graduated. i still have problems like the next kid. i've gotten harassed by cops. i've gotten a gun put on me. i've been told to crib walk and black males are criminalized from the time we enter into the quote/unquote system. i'm talking about school. from the time children enter the system african-american males are the most suspended, most punished of any group, period. as for the teens, robert tells his son to keep pursuing his education. >> once you get to the real world, it gets harder and harder every day. the challenges, they don't stop. so for right now you be 15, let me be the dad, i'll take care of everybody. >> reporter: the hope their sons can be boys for a little while longer. and as tension mounts in ferring son, missouri, parents are trying to have discussions with their kids, i spoke with three people who are familiar with the scenario of being black
and having an encounter with people. glenda hatchet, reverend wilbur purvis, and henry kelly, leader of the youth meantor group, the 100 black men of atlanta. >> i was quick to say practical things, don't reach for the glove compartment. keep your hands where they can see them, you know. get out of the car if you're asked to get out of the car. i know that my sons are held to a different standard. that is my reality. that is their reality, and fredricka wishing it so is not gooding to make it better. i have to make sure as a parent you have to do what i can to protect my children not just my children, but all of our children. >> most families who have a black son in the picture know about this conversation. >> absolutely. >> but there are some families
who perhaps are unaware or don't feel like the conversation needs to be have, but you're talking about michael brown, who was not in the car, all those things you talked about, now they're warricking on the street. what's the conversation with our young men today, especially given thinks the springboard of a new conversation. >> it's interesting that you ask that question that way. i have a 17-year-old son. his name is philip. three weeks ago, he was driving nigh vehicle, which happens to be a nice sports car. he was pulled over, and in a neighborhood that he was actually near his school. it was fortunate nothing occurred, it was during the daytime, but the officer said i just want to let you know you have a light out in the back of your vehicle. so that was a good situation, but two years ago he was stopped while walking with two other
friends that were african-american males near his school by an officer saying, are you guys supposed to be in this area? it was like, yes, you don't belong here. fortunately the security for the school stopped by, and was able to acknowledge these were students of that school. so we continue to drill to have you have to understand, unfortunately this was a conversation i had my parents had with me, so this is three generations where the same conversation is happening, and it's 2014. so it's unfortunate, but you must tell young men, especially african-american men, that they are looked at differently, regardless of that i socioeconomic status. when they are on the street, they are viewed as a black male
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is. the pope has received an overwhelming -- women say while he's in asia, he needs to take a stand on supporting asian women, who say their dignity and bodies were stolen years ago, and no one seems to care. here's cnn's erin mcloughlin. >> reporter: each week this 88-year-old protests, hoping the government will long last apologize for sins of world war ii. she says she's honored that pope francis invited her to meet him, but it's not enough. she wants francis to speak out for korea's comfort women. we've been trying very hard to get some answers from the japanese government, she says, but they are not responding.
if the pope says something, it would be much more effective than all our efforts. she says she was forced into sexual slavery when just 14-year-old, one of the tens of thousands of so-called comfort women of world war ii. it's not possible for me to describe in words how painful it is. if at all possible, i don't want to think of the past. after decades of protests and international outrage, the japanese government is no closer to an apology. in fact one government-funded study concluded it was not possible to determine if the women were forcefully recruited. some conservative groups are adamant that the women were wartime prostitutes, not sex slaves. individual japanese prime ministers have personally expressed regret over the years, but the u.n. human rights commissioner says more is needed. she writes -- it paints me to see they courageous women are passing away one by one without their rights restored and
without receiving the reparation to which they are entitled. >> do you think you will see this issue reconciled in your lifetime? sill hope to get an apock before i die. pope francis has said peace is not simply the absence of war, but the work of justice. it's been 69 years since the end of world war ii, kim can only hope francis helps her find the peace she so desperately needs. erin mcloughlin, cnn, seoul, korea. hello again, everyone. we begin this hour in ferguson, missouri. in ferguson, a rally for