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some residents want that idea considered but others say you can't stop mother nature. or pele, the hawaiian volcano goddess. we live in the one place thmoth is still existing, on the scientific fact it is lava. you cannot change the direction. it's mother nature. >> reporter: jennifer gray, cnn, atlanta. good evening, you're in the cnn newsroom, i'm poppy harlow joining us from new york. president obama will reveal his strategy to defeat isis this week. the president plans to outline that in his speech to the nation on wednesday. he says that the united states is preparing to go on the offensive in the "next phase" of this fight against isis. our erin mcpike is at the white house. >> reporter: pop pick, the president has been clear, no boots on the ground in iraq or syria. listen to how he explained that on nbc's "meet the press."
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>> this is not going to be an announcement about u.s. ground troops. this is not the equivalent of the iraq war. what this is is similar to the kinds of counterterrorism campaigns that we've been engaging in consistently over the last five, six, seven years. >> reporter: and we expect the president to lay out the fine print of his strategy, like whether or not he will seek air strikes inside syria, which would be trickier than in iraq, because the u.s. does not support the syrian government. now, we also expect the president to say whether or not he intends to seek congressional approval there are many members of congress who say he should, like texas senator ted cruz, who was on abc this morning. >> it should absolutely take congressional approval. >> reporter: now the president also says he wants the american people to understand why isis poses a direct threat and that the united states can do something about it. up to this point, it's been unclear what the american people think. there's been virtually no polling about this and that's
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why the president has to make his case. poppy? >> erin mcpike for us at the white house this evening. erin, thank you. the u.s. military did launch new air strikes today against isis in western iraq. the largest round targeted areas near the dam, critical because it is the second largest dam in iraq. secretary of defense chuck hagel talked about why this dam is so important. >> if that dam would fall into isil's hands, or if that dam would be destroyed, the damage that that would cause would be very significant. it would put a significant addition and big risk into the mix in iraq, which are also -- would risk our interests as well. >> our correspondent in baghdad, has more from baghdad at this moment. >> reporter: backed by u.s. air cover and air strikes, iraqi
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ground forces launched an offensive on sunday morning to regain control of areas around the haditha dam. officials say that is an ongoing operation but they have made some advances they say clearing some isis positions in the region. now, haditha dam is in anbar province, considered to be the sunni heartland, bordering syria. that is where we saw isis make its first advances. earlier in the year in january, it took control of large parts of anbar province, including key cities like fallujah, but the city of haditha and the haditha dam have remained under the control of the iraqi security forces and the sunniny tribes in the area. but officials tell us over recent weeks and months, there have been continuous attempts by isis to try and capture that key dam, trying to do that, they have been targeting the dam, according to officials, using an area called bar wanna district.
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this is about ten kilometers or six miles west of haditha and officials have been really concerned about these attacks, which have included mortar attacks, saying they were worried it could damage the dam and cause flooding in anbar province and other parts of the country and that is why they requested the air support from the u.s. military, to try and regain control of that area. it is -- this is really an expansion of the u.s. military operations here. as we saw, they have been really focused in the northern part of the country and they have now moved to the western part of iraq. yet again, really shifting that balance on the ground in favor of iraqi ground troops. >> jomana, appreciate the reporting from baghdad. thank you. as we look ahead to president obama's speech on wednesday on the u.s. strategy against isis, i spoke earlier in the show with graham wood, who has written a lot about the leader of isis, a man by the name, al baghdad day,
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given himself the title of caliph and he talked to me about how using the title as part of the group's interpretation of islamic history. >> they have their own view of things and it's not one that's widely shared by muslims or even widely shared by radical jihadist muslims so, their view of things is that if they try to recreate the early days of islam, which they consider a golden period, then they will have the favor of god and they will be able to run their estate in mesopotamia in the best possible way. >> when you look at al baghdadi versus a bin laden, what do you think differentiates them? >> there are a few thing also. one is that he actually controls some real estate. so, bin laden was pretty much on the run for most of the time. he was well known to americans. and baghdaddy has controlled a small, fledgling state, based in raqqa, syria, for most of that time. but there's also one other thing that's particular to his
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interpretation of islamic law and that is that he is from a particular tribe called the koresh she and in islamic law, there's something called a caliph, head of the caliphate and to be head, you have to have that lineage. osama bin laden didn't have it, baghdaddy actually does. >> so he has that, but you also note in this piece he doesn't have the support of even a majority of even the ultraradical muslims, does that -- does very a risk there in terms of how effectively he can stay in power? >> right now, he really does control the territory. he controls quite well. but there is a risk, certainly, that he would be alienating huge numbers of people, not just every day muslims who have no interest in fighting but also in the radical old guard of al qaeda. and really, the older they are, the less likely they are to be signing on to his claim to be the only true, rightful leader of muslims. >> thanks for that interview. coming up next in the, the cease-fire in ukraine began with hope for
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peace that hope has already been fractured by fighting. also, today, the world said farewell to joan rivers. coming upped a 7:30 eastern right here on cnn, our cnn spotlight special on the comedy legend, joan rivers, 7:30 eastern, right here. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know you that former pro football player ickey woods will celebrate almost anything? unh-uh. number 44... whoooo! forty-four, that's me! get some cold cuts... get some cold cuts... get some cold cuts! whooo! gimme some! geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. whoo! forty-four ladies, that's me! whoo...gonna get some cold cuts today! ♪
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a fragile cease-fire is hanging by a thread between russia and ukraine. three days into the peace deal, a woman was killed. our dana mag nat happened to witness the attack that left a family heartbroken in a country on edge. >> reporter: it should have been quiet. it wasn't. around midnight on saturday, a
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massive artillery bombardment targets mariupol's eastern outskirts, shattering in i thought of a truce. we hear machine gun fire at the side of the road, shot to pieces through the back and sides. the family inside terribly injured. too many somehow for this tiny car. children in shock, this man also bandaged already but covered in fresh blood. the women inside barely conscious. one of them died later, the first known civilian casualty of the cease-fire. it's hard to make sense of it, why a civilian car fleeing the shelling should have been sprayed with bullets on its way into town behind ukrainian lines. police say they are investigating. the rebels have clearly targeted the ukrainian checkpoint on the road east out in mar u poll. it's still there, but the surroundings are trashed, help is gingerly lift, fuel pumps, the smell of propane gas thick in the air. the shelling closer to the city than it's before.
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i live one kilometer from here and i heard shelling and bombing, then mortars, time before it launched and landed then shooting. ukrainian forces very much on edge, scared of a fresh onslaught, which comes sooner enough. that cease-fire not worth the paper it was written on, a lot of journalists stuck at that checkpoint now, heard the boom of mortar fire, sounded like it was incoming, everyone ran, even the soldiers looked panicked. she wills and mortgagers are merciless, if and when the artillery guns fall silent, armed groups of men on both sides who don't care much for the law. they may make peace an all together more dangerous prospect. cnn, mariupol, ukraine. >> dana, thank you for that. also, here is an image, a warning of war that many will
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the nba is dealing with a new controversy involving remarks that were offensive by a team own other. atlanta hawks' owner, bruce levenson, says he will sell his majority stake in the team after revealing he wrote an e-mail two years ago complaining about the hawk's failure to attract more white fans. it read, in part, "my theory that the black crowd scared away the whites and there are simply not enough affluent black fans to build a significant season ticket base." it went on to say, "please don't
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get me wrong, there was nothing threatening going on in the arena back then. i never felt uncomfortable. but i think southern whites simply were not comfortable being in an arena or at a bar where they were in the minority." levinsohn self-reported this e-mail to the league last month, just as the nba was dealing with its punishment for then-clippers owner, donald sterling, for his racist remarks. in may i bruce levenson told our wolf blitzer in an interview, he couldn't work with someone like donald sterling. >> we quickly, we loudly, we clearly rejected. the fans spoke up. the players spoke up. our nba business partners spoke up. and every nba owner spoke up. nobody said this was okay. >> earlier today, i spoke with rachel nichols, our sports reporter and host of cnn's "unguarded." here's part of our conversation. >> sterling had a history of
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being accused of racism. in fact, he was sued for racial discrimination by our own u.s. government. bruce levenson has never faced any kind of public accusation of racism and, in fact, he was one of the most vocal owners to come out against sterling. you just played that clip on wolf blitzer's show and i was actually on with wolf that day. and levenson was very strong, saying there has to be a zero tolerance poll shape zero tolerance policy in this post-sterling era, of course, applies to him as well and he knows that, it is part of why he self-reported the e-mail and i am told that is why he called a dam silver last night and just told him that he did not want to go through the court of public opinion with his family getting dragged through the mud, his decisions and words being questioned, that he knew that he was wrong and that he decided it was in everyone's best interests to sell the team. this is the kind of thing, this e-mail coming out, remember they release already the e-mail itself this is a transparency issue, the nba and bruce
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levenson, in this case specifically, decided instead of allowing witch hunt for this e-mail, you know the e-mail was gonna come out at some point anyway, they would get ahead of it he would admit he was wrong and apologize that goes a long way with people, but he is going to have to sell the team. >> a lot of people are asking right now, they want to know, i don't know if they will ever get the answer as to why he decided to self-report this. i don't know if you have any insight on that, but additionally, you have said, rachel, that this is the reality in the post-donald sterling world for the nba. >> yeah. i mean, look, it's unclear, only bruce levenson knows and he hasn't shared it yet. i asked someone at the nba office it is they know why he decided in the middle of the summer to suddenly self-report a 2-year-old e-mail and they said they really didn't know his thinking. i don't know if add moral crisis of conscience. i don't know if somebody said they were gonna do it for him if he didn't do it himself, did he come forward himself and decide to do it. i think he does know that this is a more sensitive time.
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>> thank you, rachel, for that. nba commissioner adam silver called bruce levenson's 2012 e-mail "entirely unacceptable." he did commend levenson for self-reporting that e-mail to the league office. also, a stunning moment for women's tennis today at the u.s. open, right here in new york. serena williams won her third straight u.s. open title. look at that joy and exhausting. she won it in straight sets w that win, williams scored her 18th career grand slam title. femme his fans are eager, of course, for tomorrow's unprecedented showdown in the men's singles final. japan's contender beat djokovic, the first japanese man to reach a grand slam final.
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also today, the stars turned out for joan rivers to remember her, quite a legend she was. mourning the lady who left us all laughing and missing her a lot.
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joan rivers got the hollywood sendoff she probably would have appreciated today. it was complete with a star-studded lineup, friends and family gathered at the private funeral service here in new york city. our alexander field has more on the comedienne's final good-bye. [ bagpipes ] ♪ >> reporter: the stylish sendoff complete with a bagpipe salute for the original queen of comedy, joan rivers. her daughter, melissa, and grandson, cooper, saying good-bye surrounded by thousands. >> this is such a private moment and i think that melissa has handled it with dignity and refinement and the way that the mother, joan, really would want this to be. >> it was a-list all the way. it was like very regal, very elegant. >> reporter: but not without laughter, a lot of it.
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>> moment on howard stern started off the whole event by talking about how dry joan's vagina was. and it's such a classic example of how she could take a very sad process and make light of it. >> reporter: hugh jackman performed a song, lifting spirits. >> it was like a new orleans' revival by the time we were done. but for everybody in there, it was a cathartic moment, allowed us to let it go. >> reporter: rivers was remembered with words from her daughter, melissa, and her closest friends, among them, the columnist cindy adams and debra norville. >> oh, my god, it was -- it was joan all the way. the sanctuary is filled with white orchids. you can't see the altar because there's so many flowers. she planned every step of it. >> reporter: new york city's gay crowd, singing "big spender," donald trump, whoopi goldberg,
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bravo's andy cohem and audra mcdonald performing inside. media stars filling the pews, diane sawyer, barbara walters, kathie lee gifford and hoda kotb. fellow funny lady, kathy griffin, also there to send off a comedy legend. >> she influenced all comedians, not just women comedians, she stayed relevant into her 80s, which just doesn't happen in show business. and i admire her. she was like my comedy aunt. if there's a god, i hope he or she is very well dressed today. >> reporter: joan rivers' "fashion police" co-stars came together. >> joan would say it went off exactly as i planned it, exactly as i envisioned it, it happened sooner than i wanted it, but it was perfect when it happened. >> reporter: designer carolina herrera was escorted by her husband. >> howard said he didn't know if he wanted to live in a world without joan rivers. and i feel the same way. >> reporter: a celebrity-studded sendoff fitting for a star among them. joan rivers' friends came out
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saying that melissa rivers', joan's daughter, was stoic and composed and even able to make the audience laugh just a little bit. really, very much her mother's daughter n new york, alexandra field, cnn. >> alex, thank you for that. earlier on the show, we spoke with tim teeman, a writer from the daily beast. he sat down with joan rivers for her last big interview. he was also at the funeral today and told us more about it. >> melissa read out this letter that she had left under joan's door, basically addressed to her saying, you know, dear mother, you are a paying tenant in this house, please stop taking my son to strip clubs. things like this. it was brilliant. absolutely brilliant. and some of her friends spoke as well, again very funny stories being told. >> it was classic joan? >> it was classic joan. she did leave those instructions about what she wanted for her funeral, which was a wind machine blowing into her casket and things like that. >> did they have that? >> well, she had already been cremated, but something that we are not really sure about, but she had pretty much -- it was a
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real production, a real performance. it was graceful. it was funny and it was very moving as well. so, all the elements were really, really well balanced. >> next on cnn, a look back at joan rivers' life. i'm poppy harlow in new york. thank you so much for being with us this evening. c in. n's "spotlight," joan rivers, starts now. please welcome joan rivers. >> for 50 years. >> you are not the one to interview a person who does humor. sorry. >> fearless. >> are we serious? >> no big deal to have a woman in the white house. john f. kennedy had 1,000 of them. >> and funny. >> no man has ever put his hands up a woman's dress look fogger a library card. >> rebounding. >> you laugh at it, you can deal with it. >> and reinventing. >> you want brutal honesty? >> on the red carpet? >> not gonna say anything nasty. she came in an egg and some people will do anything not to
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have to speak to ryan seacrest. >> at her kitchen counter. >> you know how you get a man's respect? >> how? >> naked. >> out front and in the spotlight. where she always liked it best. cnn's spotlight, joan rivers. >> can we talk? >> joan rivers could always talk. >> do you know what it's like to go in the morning to take off a facial mask and realize you're not wearing one? you don't know. >> with sometimes outrageous jokes, nothing was ever off limits. >> i hate old people. i -- oh. if you are [ bleep ] old, get up and get out of here right -- right now. [ applause ] >> born in 1933, rivers says even as she was growing up in the new york suburbs, she wanted to be an actress. >> i never had a choice. i always say it's like a nun's calling you. >> but her showbiz career didn't
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start until she was 25 years old. the phi beta kappa graduate from been a gnarled tried to get a job as an actress after a failed marriage. while her career didn't take off right away, she go a break righting for the point, topo gigo on "the ed sullivan show." >> give me a kiss good night. >> and joined the iconic second city comedy theater in 1961. >> you started though exit was tougher, women, comediennes, were rare. >> they were rare and they didn't want to listen to you. i think it's easier now because i would come on stage and they just didn't want to hear what i had to say. >> you had to be great, right? >> you had to take -- you had to be stronger and of all my group, and i never realized it until afterwards, i was the last to breakthrough. and my group was pryor and carlin and -- >> that's right. >> woody allen. >> i never cooked when i was single, i figured if a lord wanted the woman to cook, woe give her aluminum hands.
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>> as her comedy career was taking off, she married producer edgar rosenberg in 1964, who would manage her career and become the focus of so many of his wife's jokes. >> you know, i moved my husband edgar's apartment, a mistake, a man's apartment, very masculine, a lot of leather and chains. >> the pair had one daughter together, melissa. >> we had a rule that i never was away more than five days, ever, from the baby, as we used to call melissa. i flew through the night so i could be a scout mother, make the meetings. i wouldn't wear that lousy outfit, still a scout mother. >> no matter, you were vegas, you would come home? >> i would come home. yeah. i was always -- i thought i was always there. and when i wasn't, edgar was. there was always a parent in the house. >> reporter: in 1965, rivers saw her career get a huge boost when she appeared on "the tonight show" with johnny carson for the first time. >> gave all of us our starts. my life changed. i went on the show the first
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time, seven years of struggling, coming out of second city, and on the air, he said, you're gonna be a star and the next day, my life was different. >> reporter: it was the start of a 21-year professional relationship with carson and the show. she made regular appearances, eventually becoming the show's substitute host in 1983. >> here's joan rivers! >> reporter: but rivers' decision to launch her own show on the brand-new fox network in the fall of 1986 ended her relationship with carson and "the tonight show." >> he should have been proud, after my contract was up, done, i took another job, everybody, cosby did, david brenner did, we all did, we all went on. i think 'cause i was a woman, he never thought i would leave or maybe -- maybe he liked me better, but the minute i became
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competition, it became out to kill me. out to kill me. and that's what came down, forever. never spoke to me again. >> reporter: the show was canceled in 1987. just a few months later, rivers' husband, edgar, committed suicide in a philadelphia hotel room. >> i was in the hospital. and some idiot called the house, and they said where's your mother, somebody from philadelphia. and melissa said she is not here. they said well, please tell her father killed himself. how's that for a phone call? >> reporter: rivers regrouped by doing what she always did, putting her life out in the open. >> is there any area you won't talk about? >> no i purposely go into areas people are still sensitive and smarting about. >> why? >> if you laugh at it you can deal with it. that's how i've lived my whole life. if you -- if i swear, i'm
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jewish, if i were in auschwitz, i would have been doing jokes just to make it okay for us. i will show you fear. that's fear. if my book ever looked like this, it would mean that nobody wants me, that everything i ever tried to do in my life didn't work, nobody cared, and i've been totally forgotten. >> reporter: her career surged again when her withering take on red carpet fashion full of biting remarks and celebrity putdowns exposed her to a whole new group of fans. >> yes, you have to wear dead animals, i have tried and live ones bite. you must wear dead. >> reporter: in 2010, she felt she was the top of her game. >> think i'm working the best i ever worked now, because it's all been done to me. what are they gonna do? they gonna fire me? i've been fired. they gonna -- audiences not gonna like me?
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audiences don't like me. i've been bankrupt. my husband's committed suicide. i mean, it's okay. >> reporter: coming up, rivers gets real about life and death. >> if anything happens, melissa, no, but i'm no chicken, i've had a great life, an amazing life, if i died this morning, nobody would say, so young. ♪ eenie. meenie. miney. go.
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>> the neighbors would come over and say to my mother, how's joan, still not married? ha ha ha. my mother would say, if she were alive. you know how that hurts? when you're sitting right there? >> reporter: joan rivers' favorite jokes were about joan rivers. on "the ed sullivan show." >> when i was 21, my mother said, only a doctor for you. >> when i was 22, she said, all right, a lawyer, cpa. 24, she said, we will grab a dentist. 26, she said, anything. if he can make it to the door, he was mine, you know? what do you mean you don't like him, he is intelligent, he found the bell himself, what do you want? >> would you welcome please, joan rivers! >> reporter: from an early appearance on "the sammy davis, jr. show."
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>> could i nev >> i figured if the lord wanted a woman to cook, woe give her aluminum hands. >> i'm so sorry i was late. >> reporter: to her comeback with jimmy fallon five decades later. >> this is so embarrassing, i have to sit on this, i will explain this to you. no. i'm sorry. i'm so embarrassed. just -- >> you don't have to be embarrassed. tell me, what, why? >> well, coming back, i wanted to write, it's very special for me to be back, seriously, very, very special. so -- [ applause ] yes. [ applause ] amazing. amazing. so, my girlfriend and i decided we would get matching vagina rings, just like to collaborate. and -- [ laughter ] >> to celebrate the moment. >> to celebrate the moment. >> i appreciate that. you and your girlfriend. >> and mine is killing me, but apparently, i spoke to bruce
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jenner and hers is fine. >> joan rivers. >> there it s -- is. >> reporter: rivers built a landmark career in comedy, the job, she says, she always wanted. >> i love performing, it's like a drug to me, love what i do. when i can put two thoughts together as a child, i knew that's what i wanted to do. >> i am so thrilled to be here. i just want you to know that. >> reporter: her secret, saying out loud things others would not. >> when i was having my child, ahhh. and that was just during conception. i hate old people. i hate, hate, old people. oh, the bodies. the bodies, the joy of bodies now. oh, add a brassiere, how guy to the bathroom. i mean, it is just -- if i had your figure, i would have stayed
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single. can we talk? can we talk really -- when i look at it, it's really what i say to my audiences all the time, because i make my audiences face reality and face truth. and you'll say something and then you will just go, can we talk here? are we gonna -- which is like saying are we gonna tell the truth or not? the book "the joy of sex," did you read that chapter 11, where you wrap yourself up tote any saran wrap? oh, yeah, wait, and i lay down on the dining room table, my husband came home and he said, "leftovers again"? you don't know. >> reporter: wicked humor may have caused her trouble but as she told comedian louie ck, laughter was also her lifeline. >> i wish i could tell you it gets better, but it doesn't get better. you get better. think it's been easy? i've gone up, i've gone down, i've been bankrupt, i've been broke. but you do it. and you do it because -- because
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we love it more than anything else. >> reporter: bankrupt, broke, rivers had been through everything, including her husband's suicide. >> oh, i'm still angry with my husband. i will never forgive him. it's 12 years. people say, you'll go to heaven, meet edgar. i said i'll kill him. >> bas? >> because what he did to my daughter. because what he did to us. because what he did to our lives. >> reporter: though life wasn't easy, rivers always seemed to find a way to make it funny. well, how much have you actually had done? >> two full face lifts. >> yeah. >> and then little bitty, bitties -- >> tweakings. >> tweakings, like i have a very good friend, steven hoff lynn in and what do you think, wait another year, wait two years or he will say, oh, my god, get in here tonight. >> reporter: as a fashion critic
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for e news, she took aim at how other people looked. >> i love rihanna, i think she can do no wrong, but why the green lips? it looks like she just [ bleep ] a grinch. [ laughter ] talk about christmas [ bleep ] early. i have not seen that lips that green since miss piggy got out of the back seat of kermit's car. >> reporter: doing standup, she was certified funny. she was irreverent. >> oh. oh. children on an airplane. lady, lady. where is casey anthony when you need her? >> reporter: and irrepressible. >> angelina jolie, if i could make just one person happy with my charity work, i'll die content. i thought, easy, give jennifer aniston back her husband. >> reporter: and absolutely nothing was off limits. >> at this age, larry, listen, my friends are dropping like
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flies. i wear black always, just in case i get a quick call. >> reporter: as for her own mortality, rivers was unafraid. as she told her daughter, melissa, on their reality show. >> so, listen, all right, if anything happens, melissa, no, but i'm no chicken, i've had a great life. an amazing life. if i died this morning, nobody would say, "so young." you're a terrific person, cooper's fine, you're all fine, i've had an amazing life. and if something happens, things are fine and life is fine. >> reporter: when we come back, how joan rivers changed everything. >> she blazed a trail obviously for me, all the girls. and in the face of so much adversity.
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career as a woman in comedy might just be her greatest legacy. hours after her death, anderson cooper talked with kathy griffin about the woman who was an inspiration, a mentor, and a friend. >> kathy, thank you for being with us. i'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. >> i'm going to try to do a good job, but i feel my head is kind of jumbled because i'm grieving but i also really want to say respect must be paid to this woman. and she blazed the trail obviously for me, all the girls. and in the face of so much adversity. she was just a great living example to me and we had many, many deep conversations about how it's different for girl comedians and we spoke in shorthand and had a language and i said to her, you know, you're in a club by yourself. you're not just in a small exclusive club.
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you're really the one. >> you and i were talking about this a lot. you were saying that you spoke a language that really hardly anybody else can understand. >> well, i think you know when you talk about women and stand-up it's quite different than women who are comedic actresses or women that have had a tremendous support system of like big powerful producers or multi-million dollar network deals. everything joan did she created by herself. >> fighting for it. >> fighting for it. she said something to me. i was whining about something. she said, look, when you're a woman in this business you have to hold on until your knuckles are white, until they chop your fingers off. then hold on by your wrist and hold on by your elbows and you never let go. we would joke about everything, appropriate and inappropriate. but she really lived that. and i don't think she should have had to fight that hard but she just did. >> it also, i mean, at the time that she started doing stand-up the really lucille ball was a
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female comedian but not stand-up. >> it's different when you're talking about being on the mike by yourself. >> all alone on that stage. >> you're all alone. i thought it was so cool that the night before she went into the coma she did an hour long set. >> yeah. >> at a small theater in new york. for the love of the game. she didn't have to. >> that's the incredible thing. the documentary that was made of her recently. >> "a piece of work," it's really good. >> really must see it. >> it's a much watch. >> i want to show our viewers a clip from it. again, she was out doing stand-up, repeatedly late at night at small comedy clubs trying new material. >> she was having fun doing it. >> she had every joke she had told in these filings cabinets. let's look at the film. >> these are all my jokes. these are jokes over the last 30 years. these are just -- every time i write a joke i try to remember to get it on a card. why should a woman cook? so her husband can say, my wife
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makes a delicious cake to some hooker. you wonder why i'm still working at this age. >> by the way, did you like her go irs? one file said cooking and tony danza. she would make fun of everything and every one. >> herself, too. >> first and foremost. i've been watching a lot of footage of her earlier appearances. you can see her just having to jump higher and try harder. and she was very good about actually not letting that sort of over take her with anger. >> she had that relationship with johnny carson for 21 years. to be then cut dead by him. >> he broke her heart. >> for, you know, taking a job that she wasn't getting "the tonight show," it was a great opportunity for her. understandable why she would do it. never spoke to her again. >> cut the crap, she's a woman. several men went over to take "the tonight show" and other late night shows and never a woman. also, joan was so gracious.
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he made me. >> right. >> i got to always give him that but she also later on, years after that happened to her, she was able to articulate how much it just wounded her. >> but also, you know, to have lost her husband to suicide, find herself raising a daughter by herself, and have to, you know, move forward and make a living. >> absolutely. >> and you also pointed out something, she invented a whole new television programming which is the red carpet stuff. >> yes. she took a buchlg nch of celebr walking into a building and turned it into two hours of entertainment. she put designers on the map before anyone knew who they were. >> this was s. the rival. she was incubating is what she told us. >> i'm not going to say anything nasty. she came in a egg. some people would do anything to not have speak to ryan seacrest. >> you had dinner with her recently. >> well, we closed the restaurant down. i issued the rules, nobody else,
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no friends, no staff. and she had this great joke when she said i have a staff. and sometimes i get lonely and i turn to them and i say, staff, i'm lonely. who is going to blank me tonight. she just said things like that. at her age that made it actually funnier. by the way, there she is making a lady gaga joke which most 51-year-olds don't do or 61-year-olds. >> and the night before she was sent to the hospital she was doing stand-up that night. >> a full set, a full hour. you know, not just throwing out a joke or going to see someone else's show. she always put the audience first, which is your job, and didn't worry about offending. i don't know if it really occurred to her. i think she was always going for the funny so much she stopped being startled when celebrities would be upset with her but thought it was kind of fun around the end. >> almost sensitive about it. the first time i met her i was really kind of -- i was moved by how vulnerable she was. >> she has been through
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everything and so much more than anyone else out there. we were having dinner three weeks ago. she just kept saying, aren't we lucky? sometimes i get bitter and i raise my fist to the sky. she says, no, we're having fun. and aren't we lucky to be doing this. and it's the best job in the world. >> really says a lot about her. thank you. thanks for being here. you did good. ♪ back in 1981 i had the
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american dream, beautiful wife, the house in the suburbs and a beautiful 6-year-old son. and one day i went to work, kissed my son good-bye, and never saw him again. in two weeks i became the parent of a murdered child. i'll always be the parent of murdered child. i still have the heartache. i still have the rage. i waited years for justice. i know what it's like to be there waiting for some answers. and over those years i learned how to do one thing really well. and that's how to catch these basturds and bring them back for justice. i became a manhunter. i'm out there looking for bad guys. >> what was going on in this region? what was going on and it was so deeply, intensely harmful to
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boys. i honestly do not want a 25th anniversary. i want answers. i want to know what happened. >> i know this case as well as i know my own son's case. i walked in those shoes. this crime was so horrific in nature and it's gone on for 25 years and there are new tools to help solve this case. what is killing the wetteri think wills and what they need to know is what happened to jacob.


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