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thank you so much. thank you for joining me. i'm carol costello. taking aim at isis terrorists, president obama gets set to outline his strategy. we're going to take a look at what you can expect. hundreds of children sick. what you need to know to protect your family. and how about this? the duchess of cambridge is expecting again. >> i'm michaela. john berman is off today. we want to get straight to the strategy in the battle against isis. americans want to know if the u.s. is going to go to war against that terrorist
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organization. president obama said he didn't have a strategy to defeat isis. now he does. the plan involves three stages. first, the air strike campaign that's already under way against isis targets in iraq. then would come a ground offensive focusing on training and arming iraqi and kurdish forces, perhaps even sunni militias. the third phase is more of a tricky one going after isis, the isis network inside syria we got details from president obama on "meet the press." >> what i want people to understand, though, is that over the course of months we are going to be able to not just blunlt the momentum of isil, we are going systematically degrade their capabilities, we're going to shrink the territory that they control. and ultimately we're going to defeat them. >> listen to those words. "blunt," "systematically." interesting. joining us from washington, douglas ole haven't is joining
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us. obviously we have two guests with us. i have both of you on either side here. let me make sure i introduce you properly. william mccanns joins us, a fellow at the center for middle east policy and director of brookings policy on u.s. relations the islamic world. good to have you both with us -- with me, i suppose. so let's start with you, douglas. we know the president has ruled out boots on the ground. some are going to wonder, is that feasible and it is a winning strategy? >> well, it's certainly feasible and, more importantly, politically necessary. both, obviously, in the united states, but also in iraq. there's just no political appetite even now for u.s. boots on the ground. so this is the right strategy. we'll see the united states providing its strength, air power, planning, intelligence, reconning, synchronization from
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the back office, so to speak from baghdad at their mod in embassy baghdad. >> he says no political appetite. william, we know the president is set to speak wednesday night, happens to be the day before the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. it will be fresh in many people's minds. what are you hoping to hear from him? >> well, i would like to hear a strategy that goes beyond iraq. iraq, even though it's going to be quite complicated, believe it or not, is the easy part of this operation. the difficult part is going to be the game plan in syria. the u.s. administration has been working for years to try and corral its allies in the region to prosecute a war in syria. the president has been disinterested at times, engaged at times and now has to come up with a real strategy for empowering sunni rebels on the ground and their fight against isis and he has to determine if he wants to empower them you have no overthrow the assad regime. >> talk about that, doug, a little bit because we know there has been reluctance on the part of some potential supporters
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internationally. a part of a coalition of international players. there's reluctance on their part to embark on some sort of ground offensive or any sort of air strike attack in syria. it sounds as though it's the most difficult task. how dangerous would bit for the u.s. to launch a bombing campaign inside syria. >> well, i think a bombing campaign is both necessary and can be done carefully. but will is absolutely right. the politics inside syria are so much more complex. the force we would really hope we would use to engage isis, that of the syrian regime, is simply politically impossible for us to use and our preferred partner, the free syrian army, doesn't have the military capacity to take the fight to isis. it can defend itself and that's not nothing. they are a partner in defending their enclaves against isis but in terms of pushing against isis in a real way and taking the offen offense, that's not going to happen. >> we talk about the arab players and nations and the need for them to come to this fight
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andom the aid here. what is your assessment, will, of why there's been such reluctance on the part of various arab nations to step in and join? >> well, they've been engaged for a long time, they've been waiting for united states to get involved but a lot of arab countries and turkey are not on the same page in terms of strategy. turkey has been allowing islamist militants to go to syria. saudi arabia has been working to fund more nationalist oriented groups, it's worried about blowback. qatar had been funding muslim brotherhood groups or groups associated with the ultraconservative ideology. none of them have been on the same page and the real trick going forward from the obama administration is to get them on the same page because you won't have an effective fighting force against the islamic state unless you do. >> that's a good point. not to oversimplify it, doug, but it's not as though you just the good guys versus bad guys. it's not that simple.
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>> not at all. we have lots of flavors of bad here and what will was pointing out is that it's not clear that our allies still at this point think that isis is a greater threat or a more real danger than the assad regime. and if forced to choose between empowering a force that attacks the assad regime and empower ago force that attacks isis, it's not entirely clear isis is their first priority. >> pretend off crystal ball. what do you see happening? where do you sense we'll be six months to a year from now on this? >> i think united states will still be engaged in its fight against the islamic state. this is not an sbi they's going to die easily. it will die because it has made enemies on all side but ultimatedly united states and its allies have to decide what they want the outcome to be in syria and that will shape a lot of their policy. do they want to arm the sunni rebels just you have no defeat the islamic state or do they want them to defeat the assad
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regime? those are two different things. >> william mccants, douglas ollivant, thank you so much for joining me. ahead at this hour, the president acting on isis but waiting on immigration. big issue in our country. what happened to those strong words about executive action to deal with that border crisis? we'll have that conversation next. [ female announcer ] you get sick, you can't breathe through your nose... suddenly you're a mouth breather. a mouth breather! how do you sleep like that? you dry up, your cold feels even worse. well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. cold medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip, and pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more so you can breathe and do the one thing you want to do. sleep. add breathe right to your cold medicine. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. [ female announcer ] we love our smartphones. and now telcos using hp big data solutions
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for the president and congress. you have to president preparing to unveil his strategy against isis. republican leaders expect to meet with white house officials to discuss obviously this important and pressing issue. there is also likely to be some back-and-forth this week about immigration. the president announcing over the weekend that he won't take any executive action on the issue until after the midterm elections. we've got a team here to discuss it all. our political commentator sally cohn is next to me, also, former house majority leader eric cantor's deputy chief of staff. happy monday. >> nice to see you both. >> let's start with the isis plan. doug, i'll start with you. i want to know in your estimation what you think the president needs to say wednesday. we know he's been criticized from both sides, not doing enough, not doing nuenough soon. what does he need to say? >> he needs to be clear and consistent and specific. what is the plan of action in syria? what is the plan of action in
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iraq? if we're going to rule out ground troops, which is something that it seems the president is going to do, what are the next steps to ensure that that then doesn't happen? and also one of the things david cameron has done very well is address what happens if you're fighting for isis and you're from britain. the president needs to say the same thing about isis fighters. and that's where you'll see bipartisan support. congress wants to work with the president on this issue >> agreed or not? i can't imagine you agree. and i want to ask you a separate question. >> look, a lot of the critics who are hearing what the president has done won't be happy until there are boots on the ground and we are in another full-fledged war and let's be clear. he has taken action, he is working to fix the broken iraqi government, he's built a co-tlags has imposed sanctions and other pressure causing putin now to reluctantly but forcing them to back down. so to say the president hadn't done anything is just to ignore the facts on the ground and if we don't think he's serious about terrorism, go ask bin laden how that worked out.
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>> byty t way, i don't think anybody has said that about the president. you ran on the bottom of the screen earlier mike rodgers said he would support the president. devon nunez, says he doesn't think the president needs authorization to kill terrorists. those are two republicans supportive of the president. >> i'm not talking about the authorization piece. i'm talking about the general characterization of the president not taking action or being weak or the president failing to lead. i'm saying that ignores the fact that he is doing things, he is taking action, he is getting results. look at -- we have a -- we have promising potential to do something about iran's nuclear program because of the president's leadership. again, i think the critics are just surprisingly going to criticize anything. >> but two of those critics are california democrats dianne feinstein and jane harmon. >> who love themselves some war. >> i don't think anybody loves war, sally, come john? well, they are hawks, by any account of that definition. and the reality is that the american people have seen what
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happens when we rush into military conflict. we have seen -- it doesn't work, right? we've been there and done that under republican leadership. it made terrorism worse, it's cost american lives. it didn't make iraq any safer either. we want to see something different and i think what we're seeing is the white house following the lead of the american people who are really questioning what role the united states should play in these global conflicts if it doesn't mean always rushing to war. >> let's stop on this topic and move on to immigration because obvious they is something that is certainly making news. the president saying no executive action on immigration until after the midterms. take a listen to what he had to say on "meet the press." >> what i'm saying is that i'm going to act because it's the right thing for the country but it's going to be more sustainable and more effective if the public understands what the facts are on immigration, what we've done on unaccompanied children and why it's necessary. and the truth of the matter is is that the politics did shift midsummer because of that
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problem. >> so, doug, the president just a few months ago had said he would take executive action because of the amount of children, the surge of children in central america, overwhelming border facilities. but yet now, waiting rather until after midterm elections we're back to nothing new here. essentially status quo. no? >> i spent two and a half years in the house of representatives as a staffer. listening to republican republicans being accused of delaying all immigration reform. who what we see is the president has a real pattern for delaying things. i read a great politico probe in one of the real things that staffers and members look at for resources that said a brief history of obamacare delays. what we've seen from this president is a that voters don't like it, the president's going to punt it until after the election and if you're a vulnerable democrat like kay hagan or mary landrieu, this is a cynical election year gift for you. >> so wait, if the president -- >> wait, you just criticized the president for delaying doing something that republicans don't
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want him to do? this is like a perfect encapsulation of the farce of republican politics right now. let's be clear about one thing. we would have immigration reform right now in america, immigration reform that the vast majority of americans including republicans support if house speaker republican john boehner had simply allowed a vote. there was enough votes, including among republicans, to pass it. also, by the way, sourced by politi politico. so we wouldn't even be having this discussion if republicans had shown leader zblip but the fact is we are, so now it's being delayed until after the midterm election. he's not going to take executive orders so he's suggesting what? he's going to work with congress? that's the a lesson in futility, is it not? >> this reflects the larger trend on the part of democrats who are often sort of cowed into this timidity to not just take bold action on the things that are popular with the american people. and, look, on some level i'm
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simp thet wick the white house. everything they do, even when it's popular with the american people, they are rooted to fail by this incredibly unprecedented vitriolic republican party that has never wanted to give this president a break. at the same time, look, we need to do something about this. the president is fully within his rights. he should be taking leadership and the democrats have to stand for something for once for crying out loud. >> i will leave it at that. i don't think you'll disagree that. >> sally kohn, doug heye appreciate you joining me at this hour. ahead, for the second time this year, can you believe this is happening? an nba owner in hot water for making racially charged comments now a certain hall of famer is actually defending owner bruce leavvenson saying he's not raci, rather a businessman, we'll discuss it all. dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future.you. thank you for being my hero and my dad.
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our pediatric floor is full of patiences with severe respiratory distress. >> to go from a cold to, you know, being in probably minutes away from death is -- that's kind of scary. scary, indeed. a whole lot of concern in the midwest and the southeast as hundreds of children are getting very sick very fast. parents are really worried about the severe respiratory bug which is a strain of the enterovirus. our elizabeth cohen tells us what this virus is and what it does. >> reporter: for this teenager, it was a near-death experience. >> white as a ghost, blue lips. he just passed out.
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had his eyes rolled back in his head and i had to call 911. >> reporter: the cull interpret, enterovirus, d-68. so far, the centers for disease control has been asked for help. one hospital in denver reported treating 900 children for severe respiratory illness. 86 have been hospitalized. at this hospital in kansas city, missouri, more than 400 children have been admitted with signs of the virus. of those, 60 have been in intensive care. all of this in less than one month. an official at the centers for disease control said these cases might be just the tip of the iceberg. why has this type of enterovirus, which was first identified in the 1960s, got son out of hand this year? >> why one virus or another crops up is inexplicable. it's a mystery to me. >> reporter: but he does have some good news. enteroviruses usually aren't deadly. >> the fortunate thing is they'll get better. >> reporter: the virus can start
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as a cold. some children can develop a rash and difficulty breathing. >> this can happen fairly rapidly so don't dawdle if you really think your child is sick, it's time to call. >> this is frightening stuff. we want to find out more about this virus and the threat it poses with our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. thanks for joining me. i think so many parents with their kids going back to school they hear this and the fact that children are ending up in the ice you, it's concerning. break it down with me. this enterovirus, it's not rare but this strain of it is, correct? >> right, enteroviruses are everywhere, michaela, you probably in your life had a summer cold at some point. >> just last month. >> there you go. that was probably an enterovirus. so usually it's not a big deal and people don't end up in the hospital but this type, this d-68, it can cause major respiratory problems and that's why we're seeing this child here, children who need to be on bronco dilators to open up their lungs. children who need to be on oxygen.
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some children are ending up on ventilators to breathe for them. that's how bad it's getting. it's this type of enterovirus that's not rare but unusual. we haven't seen a lot of it. it's been around since the '60s but it's not very, very common. >> and this bug was discovered, if you will, hit kind of late august, now kids are going back to school, they're with their pals and their friends. could this be why it's spreading so quickly? because kids are back with their pal? >> right. what's interesting is this hit mid-inaugurate a part of the country kids go back to school in mid-august. my children went back to school august 13 here in ate lann a. that's strange for other parts of the country but in large parts of the midwest and southeast children go back to school in the middle of august so you're right. if the virus is out there hanging around and you put kids into a relatively confined area, yes, this is what happens. and to add to that, this is the enterovirus season. we think of the flu season as being in the winter. well the enterovirus season is in the late summer and early fall so we're smack in the
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middle of it. >> everybody's going to wonder what do we do? we can't keep our kids home from school. what kind of common sense things are you telling people do? >> i'm going to use a very medical term here. what you can do here is use your mom and dad antenna, that's what you can do. if your child has a cold and it looks like it's not a big deal you don't need to go running to the hospital but keep an eye on your child and if you're feeling like, wow, this doesn't look right, they're having trouble b.e.t.ing or i see a rash, which isn't typical with the cold, then as the doctor in our piece said, don't dawdle. to prevent it, do what you're seeing on the screen here. wash your hands, clean and disinfect surfaces. if someone is stick stay away from them and stay home if you are sick so you don't get other people sick. but i will tell you, there's no foolproof way to avoid these. they spread pretty easily person to person. >> so concerning when you see something like 900 kids in denver getting sick. it's concerning but we'll use common sense and do what we can to take care of one another and
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especially our little ones. . elizabeth cohen, thanks so much for that. appreciate it. for the second time this year, an nba owner is in hot water for making comments that are racially charged. we'll tell you about some of the support he's receiving from maybe an unlikely source. we'll talk about it. i'm randy and i quit smoking with chantix. for 33 years i chose to keep smoking... ...because it was easier to smoke than it was to quit. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it's a non-nicotine pill. chantix reduced the urge for me to smoke.
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he sent back in 2012. in it, levenson said "my theory is the black crowds scared away the whites and there are simply not enough affluent black fans to build a significant season ticket base." he goes on the say "i think southern whites simply were not comfortable being in an arena or at a bar where they were in the minority." in a cnn exclusive. martin savidge sat down with the hawks's new ceo who addressed levenson's decision to step away. take a listen. >> it's an investigation and the investigation was coming to an end and the nba, rather than fight, bruce said "i am putting my interest up for sale and walking away." >> that's what it sounds like, i'm just walking away. there's no real repercussion for him. he sells the team but he'll make money. >> he will make money. that is an outcome of this. i do think there are there's significant repercussions for
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him. >> imagine being a brand new ceo, you get a new job and oops you have to deal with this. not everyone is bashing levenson, in an op-ed today at time.com, nba hall of famer kareem abdul-jabbar writes "there are assumptions he makes that are cringe worthy but the questions about how to attract more white fans were entirely reasonable. levenson is a businessman asking reasonable questions about how to put customers in seats." oh, you know i have to discuss this. rachel nichols, host of "on guard" and cnn commentator l.g gra granderson. what do you make of kareem's assertion this was a businessman's decision. >> i had a conversation late last night once i read the complete e-mail. >> it takes a while. it's lengthy. >> it's pretty lengthy. full of spelling errors. >> a lot of different kinds of racism. >> it certainly is. my first thoughts were your
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problem isn't the fact that you have an arena full of black people and your cheerleaders are all black, your problem is that your team sucks. [ laughter ] that's first. because the atlanta hawks does not have a problem filling the arena if they happen to be a good team. my second issue is you want to diversify your revenue stream, there's nothing wrong with having that conversation and you should but the conversation isn't why are there so many black people everywhere. the question is how do we get other people to come enjoy the game. >> to build up one you don't need to bring down the other. >> exactly. >> it's interesting to think rachel, too, i want to talk about the e-mail from whence it came in a second but you would think an owner of a team in atlanta which has a really large and affluent black community would be aware of the conversations he was even having in an internal e-mail. >> absolutely. and that is guy who came out over this past summer and said that they need to have a zero tolerance policy against people like donald sterling. well, zero tolerance means zero tolerance. and i get what kareem
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abdul-jabbar is saying. i understand. he is more qualified than me to discuss shades of racism, the life he has lived. i won't get into that. but i can say that if you are talking about any shade of racism, you are talking about too much in today's nba. this is a post-donald sterling world. they are still trying to win fans back and they have said zero, nada, nothing, and this is more than nothing. period. >> well, do a little follow the bouncing ball for viewers understanding how -- 2012 people will be scratching their head trying to figure out why is it we're only hearing about this now? >> this is fascinatinfascinatin. this is information cnn broke. self-reporting is the way the nba has been portraying this. abuse levenson self-reported the e-mail. technically, sure. but what happened was gm danny ferry was in a meeting, a conference call where he was reading a scouting report prepared by someone outside the organization full time but still and it had a racist comment in it and the fact that danny ferry would repeat this comment in a meeting disturbed enough people within the organization that
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they called for an internal investigation. they talked to 19 different people within the organization about, gee, what is this franchise's attitude toward rates in this city of atlanta. they reviewed over 24,000 documents and in those 24,000 pieces of evidence, one of them was this e-mail. and once that e-mail came to light, some of the other partners said to levenson, hey, we've got to report this, this is important. that's how it got to the nba. bruce levenson gets credit for instead of fighting it the way donald sterling did and insisting he did nothing wrong -- >> you have to give him that. >> i don't have to give him anything. >> fair enough. >> we do say sometimes that while taking into account the initial action, which is important, you also take into account how you behave after that initial action. >> okay, to that point, then. so what happened now? enough new ceo who, lucky fella, gets to take over after all of this. >> and you get a team and you get a team. >> he's going to have to do a
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lot of work to do undo what has been done there in atlanta, l. z. >> people aren't gong to forget this whole thing that just occurred because you have new faces. because just -- >> a lot of hard two, do. >> after donald sterling the word was he's not the only one. why? because the nba has known about donald sterling for 30 years. >> do you think we'll see more investigations into other owners? >> the question is, this is a two-year-old e-mail that was sent to high-ranking people who who did not report it two years ago. so it goes back to mark cuban's statement about the slippery slope. why did he say that getting rid of donald sterling was a slippery slope? perhaps he knew that some of his brethren had similar opinions and ideas about race. >> you think we're starting to slide? >> what's wrong with asking the question? the slippery slope argument never holds to me in any scenario because that implies gee, we may judge things wrong so we can't ever ask the question, we have no judgment at all, we can't possibly even get into this.
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i think these questions have to be asked and where the nba has drawn the line is important. >> i'm going ask you both to stay put. we have to voe you schmid owe. it's a big story, upsetting video. it's extremely disturbing video. ray rice, you've probably already seen it on line. we'll talk about in the a second. and for many, it's a struggle to keep your a1c down. so imagine, what if there was a new class of medicine that works differently to lower blood sugar? imagine, loving your numbers. introducing once-daily invokana®. it's the first of a new kind of prescription medicine that's used along with diet and exercise to lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. invokana® is a once-daily pill that works around the clock to help lower a1c. here's how: the kidneys allow sugar to be absorbed back into the body. invokana® reduces the amount of sugar allowed back in, and sends some sugar out through the process of urination.
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here we go. new video released this morning of nfl star ray rice posted by tmz sports that appears to show the actual punch that got the baltimore ray raye vens suspended for domestic violence. we have to warn you, it's disturbing to watch this. tmz says this is security cam footage from february in an atlantic city hotel. you see eventually rice's then-fiance kind of swats at him as he walks by him in the hallway. they both get into the elevator. once they get into the elevator it would appear that the two of them seem to exchange words. you'll see it happen here in a second. there's some sort of words. she kind of swats at him again. but then he hits her and then he really slugs her and she hits her head hard, knocking her unconscious. we've slowed it down for you. i don't want to keep playing this over and over because it's really upsetting. the elevator door opens and she drags her out which is the part we saw previously. rachel and l. z. are back again.
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what's -- it was interesting, we've been talking about this video. it's upsetting to watch and at first i said it's shocking. it isn't because we knew for her to have -- >> it's disturbing. >> not shocking. >> because we've previously seen the video of him dragging her unconscious out of an elevator. >> but maybe we could have suspended thinking maybe there was another reason. >> the nfl said the video wasn't made available to them and they asked for it. the question i have is if it was available to tmz, if they were able to obtain the video -- and i'm sure they paid for it, but you can pay for stuff -- why didn't the nfl obtain this video? it was obtainable. >> right. they said there was a thorough investigation done. now the second part of this -- we can talk about the two-game suspension in a second because that's going to -- >> that's an hour show. >> we've got four minutes here, folks. why wasn't there a criminal charge to begin with? a crime was committed here.
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>> that to me is the beginning. like a lot of people are mat at the nfl and the ravens. i'm mad at the judicial system that failed this woman and society at large. because here you have clearly an act of violence. clearly an act of violence. and to give him a slap on the wrist, an opportunity to even have this wiped from his record tells you how powerful money, fame, and sports is in society. and interestingly enough, it was reported that the same judge that gave him a pass actually put a mom in jail because she had a gun on her from another state and didn't know that that state's law. it was presented in front of her and he put her in jail for carrying a gun for not knowing the laws in that new state. same guy put her in jail but gave ray rice a pass. >> we can do another show on that. let's talk about the two-game suspension now. is there a chance that could be revisited rachel? >> it's complicated. the nfl collective bargaining agreement says the big office can't. however, this is by all accounts a special case. the backlash against this is
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huge, as it should be. and you have even players, even current players who are usually very reluctant -- >> they don't talk about this kind of stuff. >> they're calling for something to be done. i want to show you a tweet from terence knighten, a defensive tackle from the denver broncos. you might remember him at the super bowl they were calling him pot roast and he's saying something important. he says "as players we must speak up, stand up for what's right. i don't give a dam who you are and how much money you make, no place for this." he tweeted that the nfl should suspend rice for a year, he should be thrown in jail and i think you'll start seeing more players saying this, you're certainly having people outside the nfl community saying this and there's now some calls that even if the collective bargaining agreement says they can't "try him twice" it's up to the ravens and ray rice to do what we were talking about in the earlier segment. bruce levenson of the atlanta hawks went to the nba and said i give, i recuse myself.
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there are people suggesting the ravens and ray rice should say we are going to do the right thing. we are going to take him away from the game for a year. >> and speaking of hour long conversations, even longer we can talk about it. it points again and i feel like it will come up again drug aus into a bigger problem than violence against women in the nfl. >> it's not just the nfl. >> right. >> we still have cultural problems understanding the severity of domestic violence. when you think about beyonce's big hit "drunken love" and the throw away line that made fun of domestic violence, you think about how much fans still support chris brown despite his domestic violence, we have a problem about that issue. >> and it needs to be addressed but hopefully we'll see changes. this conversation won't die here. i feel like the two of you are going to be very, very busy on this topic and also the topic of the hawks. thanks for spending time r w me. two whole blocks. >> thank you. >> all right, l. z. and rachel, thanks so much. it has been six months since the malaysia airlines jumbo jet vanished into thin air.
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>> as a group of family members we are gaining strength so we want thm to know we are not going away and until they agree
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to pursue this more independently in a way we can feel confident in, we're going to get noisier and noisier. >> that was sara bajc, her partner phillip wood was aboard that flight 370. nobody knows better how long it's been, the loved ones of the passengers aboard. today marks sixth months since malaysia airlines flight 370 vanisheda trace. it has been month after month after month of agony. not one speck of debris has been found. not a solid lead. not one bit of piece for the family members. i want to turn to our safety analyst david seuoucie, author the book "why planes crash." i can hardly believe it's been six months. i think many of us believed or hoped this mystery would be solved by now or that the wreckage at least would have been found yet here we sit. no answers.
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>> yeah, it is tragic. my heart goes out to sarah and the families. i can't believe it's been six months of them suffering through this. we need to get some answers. we need to get them as fast as we can, that's for sure. >> any idea why there are no answers? give us a sense of where you think maybe the problem is. i mean, we've been trying to figure this out since six months ago. >> well, the interesting thing, michaela, about this particular investigation, we have no evidence, we have nothing out there at all telling us what's going on. so in any investigation, all the investigations i've done, 80% of the work is preparation. 20% is the actual search and the work and the hands on. so what we're seeing here, in my estimation, is that they are really taking the time to make sure that the floor of the ocean is mapped properly so when they get the search vehicles out there, that they can do it as
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quickly and efficiently as possible. remember when we had the bluefin-21s in the water earlier? they were going super slow and that's because they didn't know what the terrain was. they couldn't preprogram the flight path, if you will, of the search vehicles. now that they've got this area mapped, the search vehicles will be able to go at a much quicker rate and they'll be able to see much better and have a clearer definition of what they are looking at. i think that's what we're seeing. the amount of time it takes to prepare for such an enormous task of this search. >> i remember you talking about the importance of mapping. right now they are back actively out there searching. that's the status of the search right now, right? there's no further updates to that? >> well, they are not searching yet. what they are doing is mapping the floor in preparation for the search. the equipment for the search will be in australia. they expect around october 4th
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or 5th. at that point, we'll see that piece of equipment get set up, the teams prepare, and then they'll start their expedition out and start going in with the investigation. so i'm just glad that we're getting this finally moving forward. >> and you reminded us how difficult it is, the search conditions are far from ideal in that part of the world. david soucie, we'll be with you as we cover this and lean on your expertise, as always. thanks for joining. >> thanks for having me. all right. the duke and duchess are thrilled about their growing family. we'll bring you what details we know, next. [announcer] word is getting out. purina dog chow light & healthy is a deliciously tender and crunchy kibble blend. with 20% fewer calories than purina dog chow. isn't it time you discovered the lighter side of dog chow. purina dog chow light & healthy. angieby making it easy to buyng and schedule service
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it's been a tricky few days, a week or so. but we're thrilled. it's great news. early days, just things settle down and she feels a bit better. but the big news and the big international so that's why that's all for now. thank you. >> prince william confirming what we have heard, the royals are expecting a brand-new bouncing bubble of joy. here to join me is victoria
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arbiter. prince william also chose to keep things in perspective. there's a lot of world issues going on but obviously very exciting news for the young couple. >> it is exciting news. and to keep things in perspective, there's a lot of really severe news going on in the world right now and william is very conscious of that and it's nice to have this brief moment of joy. >> this is news of a baby. we know that last time around she was awfully sick with morning sickness in the early stages of her pregnancy. any word if she's encountering that this time? >> she is, which is why they broke the news today. word has it she hasn't reached the crucial 12-week stage yet so any couple is not keen to release the news this early, especially on a global scale. she is being treated at home by doctors. that's where we saw prince william. if she said kate is at home with a cold, it's better to be upfront and honest from the
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beginning. >> speaking of speculation, those that wanted to could say she was morning sick in this fashion and had a boy. maybe that means that she's having a boy again? >> possible. and, of course, the bookies are going to be crazy with it. yes, it would be easy to assume she's having a boy. i'm hoping for historical reasons it's a girl this time around. >> i do too, actually. i think you're summoning a baby girl. >> but to get to the business of being a royal, this does alter the secession plan a little bit, does it not? >> well, the beauty of george when kate was pregnant with george, the king altered the laws to succession. had she been a little girl, we're talking about a spare this time around. unless there's a catastrophic event, it's unlikely this baby will see the throne. but should this baby see the throne, who knows. >> to be known as the spare in
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the royal family i think would create all sorts of issues. can you imagine the sibling rivalry? >> it is brutal. you look at harry who is making an incredible mark this week with marking the games this week. yes, the spare sort of has a much looser approach to the royal family but there are still things that they have to be responsible for. >> and this is another royal to add to the family, to be sure. >> luckily for the kiqueen, she only got one great-grandson at the moment but this is her fifth great-grandchild. >> victoria, thank you for joining me. >> thank you. we want to add our congratulations to neil patrick
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harris and his long-time partner david burka who tied the knot in italy. their 3-year-old twins were part of the celebration and elton john performed. neil is joining us at this hour a week from thursday. i'm sure john will have many questions, as will i, about their big day. thank you for joining us. "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts right now. a brand-new video surfaces exposing even more savagery. we can't show you most of it. and also at this hour, another video you may find hard to watch, that's raven's run

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