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hope everybody has a wonderful weekend, see you back here, anderson is next. thank you for joining us, we begin tonight with breaking news and more bad news for the nfl, in the middle of the ray rice scandal, another awful allegation to tell you about involving one of its players, minnesota runningback adrian peterson has been indicted on felony injury to a child. that, according to the montgomery county sheriff's office who has issued an arrest water for peterson. we'll have more on that in a moment. as you know, the nfl has a track record on dealing with people accused of crimes, that comes on
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the aftermath of the fallout from ray rice punching his fiancee in the elevator. today, there was confirmation of the suspension by the league in a letter signed by commissioner roger goodell. that letter could be more trouble for goodell. cnn legal analyst joins me, jeffrey toobin. i mean, another domestic violence incident against a child. this is the last thing the nfl wants to know about this. what do we hear about this? >> and it is not just anyone committing this. adrian peterson is one of the biggest stars in the nfl. he has been deactivated from playing, for anybody watching this this is really a step forward. because we see many who just play after these incidents. he has been pulled off the field. what happened was he was disciplining his 4-year-old son, he told police he used what he called a switch, a tree branch that he removed the leaves from and he was disciplining him for getting into an altercation with
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one of his children. he returned the 4-year-old son to the mother after the custody visit and the mother noticed bruises and scratches on the child's body. again according to the has television station that saw the report they say there were bruises on the child's legs, ankles, buttock, and scrotum. and that the child showed enough bruises and scratches that the mother took him to the doctor, and that the child described being hit in the face, as well. >> and the police say that he told them he gave the child what he called a whipping. >> i was e-mailing with rusty harden who represents adrian peterson, a very distinguished lawyer in texas who happens to be in italy right now, this is what rusty wrote to me, the story is pretty simple. the father disciplines his child for harming the child in the same manner that he, the father, was disciplined and he
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unintentionally caused an injury he never meant to happen. now, obviously, we need to know what the facts are. but even if adrian peterson was disciplined in this way, even abused as a child that certainly is no excuse to abuse his own child. >> but now, there are plenty of parents in the united states who do believe in using a form of corporal punishment against a child. >> that is certainly true, and there are areas where this becomes controversial and difficult for the legal system to sort out. when you have significant bruising as is apparently the case here, that is when discipline can turn into a crime. and at least the grand jury in this -- in this texas county thought it was a felony. >> and you know, according to the attorney he is going to turn himself in. >> correct, rusty harden said to me in the e-mail that he will head to houston and turn himself in shortly, i don't know when exactly. but as rachel said he will not be playing this weekend. >> it is interesting, now, there
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is also this development of a letter sent to the player's association. >> it is kind of amazing to me that roger goodell and the nfl offices are doubling down on this defense that ray rice did not tell them the truth in the hearing and that is why they levied such an unfortunately lenient punishment. >> which by the way it goes against what they said in a press conference -- >> and several witnesses and sources that the different news outlets had. and the original police report from the incident clearly states that rice struck janay palmer at the time, that is how they refer to her, and that it rendered her unconscious. it is not confusing, so the idea they didn't know is frankly prepostero preposterous, and it seems strange to me that they are going against that, that is so easily knocked down. and even if you sort of believe them i'm not sure if we justify
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the idea, hey, the guy that described the crime to me. i didn't bother to check the police report. it seems like a strange defense. >> if ray rice's attorney had the tape and they were in a meeting with ray rice and his fiancee and the attorneys couldn't they have just said to the attorneys look you have to give us what you have? >> well, we are now in the famous watergate question of what did the nfl know and when did it know it? when did they know what ray rice really did to his fiancee in the elevator? it seems apparent to all of us that it was obvious from day one that he punched her. and that video was available with it seems very minimal effort. and again, if you believe the report yesterday from the associated press, they did -- someone -- >> someone in the nfl had it. >> some woman at the nfl did have it as long ago as april. >> i mean, there are so many sources for this information that they did have access to to
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sit there and say well, ray rice lied to us. it is incredible when they are under so much pressure that that is the best defense they can come up with? >> what is going to happen on the other case with the abuse of a child? >> well, there will be an arraignment and he will certainly get out on bail. then the nfl will decide how to proceed. as rachel said earlier, the policies of the nfl are not clear. there are people in the nfl who have been convicted of domestic violence who are still playing. >> who is appealing -- >> greg hardy and the carolina panthers is appealing. but he has been convicted so you would think it has been enough to pull him off the field and it has not been. >> it has been basically a dictatorshi dictatorship, what roger goodell thinks about the player is basically what goes, they need a
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different policy, i think. >> be sure to tune into rachel's program "unguarded," more of the latest developments on this, and they have turned a harsh spotlight on the way they handle domestic abuse cases. as you know, before the tape came out he was suspended just for two days. kyung lah reports. >> reporter: outrage in the open, over the air waves of talk radio. >> well, who the hell is going to play tonight? >> number one guy, he has to play, if a woman got bruised up a little bit. >> reporter: domestic violence doesn't just happen in the nfl but as sports watchers point out, pro football handles domestic violence the best. >> the truth about the sports, the nba and baseball have not taken it anymore seriously than the nfl. >> reporter: they have taken a look across sports and penalties
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now lagged behind the six-game suspension, the handling of ray rice because of this video is the exception. in some cases, professional players from other leagues are back the same week. >> my lawyers have advised me not to comment. >> reporter: and the phillies player, brett meyers, arguing with his wife in june, 2006. witnesses called 911 saying that meyers struck his wife. hours later, his team supported him. meyers pitched less than 48 hours later. his wife did not testify and the charges were dropped. another mlb player and later manager showed up in court holding his wife's hand. he was inducted into the hall of fame. >> my husband just hit me in the face. >> reporter: another one, jason kidd publicly apologized for
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hitting his wife. kidd pled guilty to a misdemeanor, reportedly paid a $200 fine to the courts and went back to the basketball court. heavy is now a coach for the milwaukee bucks. former memphis player james johnson was arrested on a domestic violence charge, charges were dismissed and signed a new contract with the raptors. and matt barnes was also arrested for domestic abuse, his wife called it a misunderstanding. and then, arrested and charged for assaulting his girlfriend. he was on the ice the very next game. the prosecutor eventually dropped the charges saying he could not win a conviction. individual teams like baseball's seattle mariners have been pro active with domestic violence, educating players and being harder within the league. but they are the exception.
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>> no question this is a signal not just for the nfl but for all professional sports to take domestic violence more seriously. >> kyung lah joins me now, i mean, do the leagues have official policies on it so som? >> reporter: we looked at the league and they essentially don't have a policy, but handle it on a case by case basis. the only policy that have is drug convictions, but on domestic violence, it is only if there is a conviction for a violent felony. the takeaway here, the nfl, you may dispute or say they're not hurting them more harshly, the cases of domestic violence, they're actually the harshest on paper when it comes to policy. and ahead, new snags in the fight against isis, more on the version of the iraq phrase,
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welcome back, new developments tonight in the fight against isis, also some big obstacles, ranging from the coalition, and what to call it,
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namely, is it war or not? some in the administration say yes, chief correspondent jim sciutto has more on the developments or the fight, whatever you want to call it. >> so anderson, the administration seems to be all over the map whether we're at war with isis, secretary kerry says no, don't use that word, white house says yes, pentagon says yes. >> well, seems they are giving up the battle. they are at war with isis, but not like with the afghanistan or iraq war, more like words such as war against al-qaeda. what does it mean? drone strikes and partnering with local forces. it does not mean u.s. boots on the ground, but the fact is anderson, this campaign as outlined against the president against isis is much bigger than we've done such as with yemen or al shabaab, already, we've had
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150 air airstrike, more than ever in yemen or elsewhere. >> and the u.s. personnel has more than doubled in a couple of weeks, 500 advisers and an additional several hundred, who knows how many. as far as gathering a coalition though, there has been a lot of talk obviously about something critical to president obama and a lot of his past military actions. but doesn't seem like things are going off to a rousing start here. >> at least in public, no, based on the comments that secretary kerry has been traveling the region. you look at the key partners there, saudi arabia wants to host the training camp for the moderate syrian rebels, no public commitment to do that. u.s. wants turkey to be a base, and syria, syria reluctant to do that because there are a number of their citizens held inside syria and they are concerned about their safety. then you have jordan, also neighboring syria, the u.s. may
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want to train rebels there, but the jordan leaders indicating they already have a training cia camp. but anderson, the thing is what they say in public may be different than what they say in private. because it is dangerous for the countries to make a commitment publicly. >> and they have certainly more to fear from tfrom isis certainy more than the united states does as they are in the reach. and certainly the countries that would be targeted by isis. and the pentagon, if the u.s. is prepared to take the lion's share of the support if it doesn't get help from the countries, what is your idea? >> secretary kerry said rather than the lion's share this is the u.s. taking leadership of this effort. but he said it is asking its partners in the region to do what they can. it is interesting, you will hear
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a phrase very familiar to our viewers than just before the iraq invasion, have a listen to this. >> the united states is leading this effort to build and sustain a coalition of willing partners. and that is the key word, jim, willing partners. everybody has to come to this effort with what they can, where and when they can. >> so there you go. coalition of willing partners sounds a lot like -- the coalition of the willing. you remember what that was. that was kind of a piecemeal thing, some involved with iraq, some south american and central american neighbors, allies sending a few forces here and there. what the u.s. really needs is hard support. they need boots on the ground and may need countries willing to do airstrikes willing to host training camps. that is something that they have no public commitments yet. >> fascinating turn of events for president obama campaigning on obviously the wars in iraq and afghanistan, the democrats
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made fun of the whole notion coalition of the willing, and here we are yet again. jim sciutto, thank you. and in addition to not so eager allies and confusion and messages from both parties the white house is a critic. jim foley's mother is a critic who says that she hopes others won't find themselves in the situation they found themselves in. we'll hear more on how the family dealt with the ordeal. we got a limited response last night. we got a bit more. first, i want to play you more of what she said in other conversation about the foundation launching today in jim foley's name and new details about his captivity. >> we were told we could not raise ransom. that it was illegal. we might be prosecuted. >> you were told you would actually be prosecuted -- >> yes, that was a real possibility. told that many times. we were told that our government would not exchange prisoners.
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would not do a military action. so -- we were just told to trust that -- he would be freed somehow. miraculously. and he was not, was he? we americans failed him. it's nobody's fault, it's just the fault of a lack of discussion around it. and understanding of the problem. >> when bowe bergdahl was released and there was that prisoner exchange -- >> exactly. >> i'm sure obviously, you were happy for his family. >> of course, absolutely. >> but did it raise questions for you because you said you had been told there would be no prisoner exchange. >> absolutely. well, we didn't understand. and i am told that jim and the others in captivity were hopeful that we -- that deal that
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allowed bowe bergdahl's freedom, that our government would try to find a way to get them free. and it did not appear to be an issue that -- they were willing to prioritize, you know. >> there was a rescue effort, apparently made. >> yes, late. very late. yes. >> you wish it would have been sooner. >> we feel that the location -- their location was known for more than a year. >> it was? >> yes. >> they had been moved a couple of times. that is true. when there was a movement of isis from aleppo to raqqa. there were several moves in that transition. but there was also two times when they were at a location that we were aware of for months. >> do you believe ransoms should be paid? >> anderson, i believe our son
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deserved a chance to come home. i really do. and we're dealing with very difficult people when we talk about isis. their hate for us is great. and yet, some of our response to them has only increased the hate. you know? so i feel there is a need for debate, discussion. i -- pray that our government would be willing to learn from the mistakes that were made. and to answer there are better ways for american citizens to be treated. >> i know you have received an e-mail asking for a huge amount of money. did you -- when you got that e-mail what did you think? >> at that time we were delighted to receive the proof of life questions and to have any contact with them.
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we were given hope by that. however, their requests were impossible for us. 100 million euro, or all muslim prisoners to be freed. the requests from the terrorists were totally directed towards the government, really. and yet we as an american family had to figure out how to answer them. so there was a real disconnect with that. >> and the situation like that, is it left to you to figure out how to answer to them? >> it was. >> people in the government don't say here is what we recommend? >> no. the fbi was kind. they would look over our letter and tweak it, give suggestions, they did give some suggestions. but there was no feeling of real strategy or negotiation. it was, we did all the answering of the e-mails, you know?
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which was ridiculous, we didn't know what we were doing. i think isis thought the government was answering them. you know? i think the isis group wanted to engage our government. and our government refused to be engaged. you know? and i understand it. i know -- forgive me for making this sound simplistic. it is very complicated. so all i'm saying is that i hope this legacy foundation can make some changes. and challenge all of us both as families and our government to talk about this. and have a policy that gives hope for kidnapped americans and their families. >> one quick note, the james w. foley legacy fund you can find
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out more information about it. that is one word, we also have a link to it on our website. also tweeted about it. >> reporter: james foley's mother tells anderson she was threatened by government officials that she would be prosecuted if she raised money to free her kidnapped son. >> we were told we could not raise ransom. that it was illegal. we might be prosecuted. >> reporter: last night after we aired the folley interview on "ac360," the fbi took a stand saying that the law is clear, raising ransom are prohibited, doing so would put more at risk of being captured. but today, secretary of state john kerry said he was not aware of any official suggesting criminal charges. >> i am totally unaware and would not condone anybody that i know of within the state department making such
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statements. so i don't know about it. >> reporter: brian cunningham is a former prosecutor and cia officer. he says government officials are supposed to help advise families of hostages. >> threatening someone with a criminal prosecution when they're trying to save their child is not only in my opinion is reprehensible, but it is appalling. >> reporter: in the cnn interview, diane foley said that the fbi needed to do more to rescue her son. but the facts were solid, they say, he was kidnapped before and released by efforts from diplomatic officials. and today in a response from the white house, they reiterated that rescuing foley was such a priority they sent in a mission in july. >> despite the way the mission was executed, that is to say successfully it did not end in
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the release of mr. foley. >> reporter: while diane foley is not blaming anybody in the u.s. government she says the fact her son is now dead is proof something needs to change. >> as a family we had to find our way through this on our own. >> and one of the things i think she is really talking about is better communication for family members even between family members. could a family actually be prosecuted for paying ransom or trying to raise ransom. has that ever happen insied? >> reporter: well, anderson, not that i'm aware, they say they're not aware of a situation where a family has paid money to a terrorist organization and then arrested? now, could it happen? yes, there are laws on the books that would make it illegal for any american to pay a terrorist organization but a prosecution would be highly unlikely. >> and you spoke to administration officials, i was
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wondering about the reaction whether the family was threatened or told this? >> you know, the officials i spoke to were really shocked by this that any government official would threaten a family to try to dissuade them from trying to pay a terroristic organization. the officials i spoke to said it is obviously very complicated when you deal with people where there is a hostage. and perhaps it is not the best idea to pay ransom because it may not get your loved one back and could also put others in harm's way. but as far as threatening the family, the officials i spoke to are just shocked by that allegation. all right, coming up next, serious situation, a story from way up north, and we'll bring it to you next with sarah palin. that partners businesses
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well, sarah palin is back in the headlines tonight, for a party in an alleged fight.
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>> reporter: the palin's reality show features the family dog, target shooting and caribou hunting. but according to blogger amanda coin who broke the story out of anchorage, alaska, reality is a lot more interesting. >> i would describe it as a big fight, other people there were describing it as a big, crazy brawl. >> reporter: it allegedly happened here in a suburban neighborhood at a party. coin said sarah palin, her husband, todd, and their children pulled up in a stretch hummer limo together, it was todd's 50th birthday, so he was one of the partygoers they were celebrating. >> track approached somebody, got in a scuffle, then todd palin got in that scuffle. that was broken up, willow and
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bristol started to approach the family of the ex-boyfriend. bristol, witnesses say, began to punch the owner of the house in the face. >> coin says she talked to several eyewitnesss, including eric thompson who told this to abc news. >> bristol just reached back and started clocking him. and she hit him you know, reached way back here and caught him right in the chin like, you know, i counted at least six times. >> sarah palin then herself according to witnesses, got involved, and tried to get into the middle of the brawl and was screaming and yelling. >> cnn cannot independently confirm that the palins were involved in the melee. but the police say the family was there telling us just before midnight anchorage police responded to a report of a verbal and physical altercation taking place between multiple subjects outside of the residence. alcohol was believed to have
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been a factor in the incident. some of the palin family members were in attendance. the palin family has not commented on the alleged incident despite cnn's numerous attempts to reach out to them. sarah palin posted on her facebook page the next day but made no mention of the party. she says, i was traveling yesterday so i post todd's 50th birthday greeting a day late which is fine because the handsome guy barely looks a day over 50. >> anchorage police say at the time of the incident, none of the parties wanted to press charges and no arrests were made. suzanne malvo, cnn, washington. coming up. a new chapter in the terrible story of the 9-year-old girl who accidentally killed a teacher after the gun range who was teaching her. now a message for the little girl.
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father of four, his family suffering a tremendous loss. remarkably, they reached out with compassion to the young girl who killed their own father. >> we wrote this letter to the little girl. we don't know your name but we are connected by this tragedy. >> a tragedy that took place last month at this arizona gun range. when a 9-year-old girl learning to shoot an uzi -- >> all right, go ahead and give it one shot. all right. >> accidentally shot and killed her instructor, the uzi jumped out of her left hand when she tried to fire it. he was air-lifted to a hospital and later died from his injuries. his name was charles vaca and these are his children, ages eight to 19. they wrote this letter to the 9-year-old girl his father spent his final moments with. they want her to know they don't
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blame her for what happened. >> my dad would want you to move forward with your life. you should not let this define you. you should love yourself and your family. >> the children's attorney said they hope it can give her closure. >> it is their wish to look her eye to eye and to be able to tell her it's okay. >> you're only 9 years old. we think about you. we're worried about you. we pray for you. and we wish you peace. our dad would have wanted the same thing. >> their dad was a family man and an army veteran who served two tours in kosovo. the kids say they want the world to know him for who he was, not for the tragedy that took his life. >> my dad was not just an instructor, he was funny, strong, a hero and our protector, he was a good man.
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they sold out -- that is the one i want. >> got to wait for the 7, i think. >> what? my phone is all crapped out and broken and has been like this for six months. i got to have that new phone. >> all right, susan, thank you very much. when we come back, a remarkable story out of kenya. you may remember the attack that occurred there in the mall that killed dozens. a filmmaker has now put together all the footage, the footage for more than 100 cameras for a gripping documentary. i'll speak with him. this may be the most videotaped terror attack in history. details ahead. man: i know the name of eight princesses. i'm on expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you.
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one year ago, the al-qaeda-linked somalia group al shabaab attacked a mall in kenya, and left dozens killed and hundreds injured. well, one documentary happened inside the mall. i spoke to the filmmaker a short time ago. >> there were tracer rounds, the flash was wide as they were flying through the air. >> people were confused.
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they were trying to go, stepping on each other. i saw a white lady with three children. so they are running different directions. that is when i picked one. >> you know, i started to run and then a kenyan woman came and grabbed one of the girls from me, and we dove behind a display table. she had my 4-year-old, laying on top of her to protect her. >> my producer, dan reid, joins us now. i have seen a lot of your films, you have done the terror film, mumbai, you did the theater film, the theater that was taken over by the chechens. it seems like in this you have more cameras than ever before. >> we have, this was an attack on a shopping mall on a saturday lunchtime. they were installed to stop
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people from running or stealing. we have an unbroken time line of the attack which was very important, that allows us to figure out exactly what happened. >> this is probably one of the most videoed. >> the most videoed attack in history without a doubt. >> and can i ask how you got the footage? >> well, the footage was not released to us by the authorities. >> i have only seen a few -- they only released a few little clips here and there. >> they did, they released a few clips in the aftermath of the attack. and i thought what if we have could get all the security footage, what if we could get a complete record of the terrorist attack for the first time ever and see step by step how the attack was able to take place. >> and you were able to do that? >> we were able to do that. >> you can't say how, though. >> i can't say how. >> how much footage? >> my estimate is 150. >> that is incredible. what about this attack surprised you or was different than some of the others that you have
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worked on? >> this was an attack in one location, the attacks in mumbai were over five locations. this was one team, four guys who went into a crowded shopping mall. one time on saturday. the four guys open fire with kalashnikovs. and they're opening fire until there is nobody else to kill. >> and many of the deaths occurred really early on? >> many of the deaths occurred early on, that is one of the really alarming things. when you make it, you think how can we prevent so many people dying? the only way to do it is to get armed response there very quickly in the first half hour if possible. >> and just quickly, the eyewitness accounts of people you have. i want to play it a little bit more for the phone. >> i was counting every single second that passed. and all of a sudden it happened. there he was. i looked up at him and just mouthed the words, he is just a
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baby. he is just a baby. and after a while, he looked to the side at some of his colleagues over there. and said something in a language that i didn't understand. and someone in a broken voice said lady with baby, stand up. then as i'm looking at them the terrorist that is in the middle in the front looks at us, sees the baby peering around and turns his head to the side and kind of cocks his head and makes a cute baby face, and i just remember thinking, if they see my face now they're going to know how crazy i think this is. i can't believe what just happened. they're killing women and children and making baby faces at us and waving. >> that is extraordinary. the the dichotomy of how they
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reacted with her and killing women and children. >> and one of the handlers in somalia, there seems to be some sort of instruction to release women and children and release muslims, as well. they started to ask people their faith. >> this may seem like an odd question, but do you find mothers with kids, do they act differently in an event like this? somebody who has a life to protect? >> yes, that came to the fore, i found women with their children, they seemed to be a lot sharper, a lot more switched on. a lot more able to -- to cope with the situation and able to make really very difficult, difficult decisions. >> i always talk to the police about this. it is surprising to me this has not happened in the united states yet. and obviously, there are law enforcement. this is a huge concern, not just someone bringing a bomb into a place but a small group of terrorists, three or four people with automatic weapons really can bring -- in mumbai can bring
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a city to paralysis for days at a time. is there a lesson, how would you respond if you were at the mall? >> if i was at a mall, run and keep running, pick a direction, it doesn't matter which one, just run as fast as you can and that is your best chance. >> you would not hide or wait for authorities? you would try to get out? that is the lesson for you. >> i think most of the people in this story were executed as they lay on the ground, you know, men, women and children old people just mercilessly killed. the people who ran, the majority of them survived. just take to your heels and survive. >> it is an extraordinary film, your work is so extraordinary, i really appreciate you being on. >> thank you so much. >> the movie "terror at the mall" debuts, owned by time warner. and just ahead, a story told
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