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the house. my wife at the liquor store working. it was weeks and bulger at the door. i didn't know. what the hell do they want? you have a problem. i said what problem. he said, listen -- we were hired to kill you. i am like, what? you have to understand, other liquor stores, they hired us to kill you. i just couldn't believe it. i didn't know what to think. i was dumbfounded. i froze. what we are going to do, we are going to become your partners. no, you are not becoming my partners. bulger is staring at me, grinding his teeth. you do not understand we are take the liquor store. i was like it is not for sale. he said i will [ bleep ] kill you. stab you and then kill you. i was like, holy jesus.
they pulled out a gun. and picked up my kid. it would be terrible for this kid to grow up without a father. and i melted. nothing you can do. ever since that day, i have never been the same. i couldn't protect my own children. i'm not over it yet. i won't be over it. and maybe i'll never get over it but i surely can't wait to get in front of that court on the stand and testify against that -- 30 years ago he scared me to death. he don't scare me to death no more. >> after 16 years, the fbi finally had this man, the boston mob boss captured. >> along with his long-time girlfriend. >> the 83-year-old is accused of drug trafficking, extortion, and murder all while working as an fbi informant. he was on the lam for 16 years.
>> i never committed a crime in 16 years. i was with catherine. my whole life changed when i was with her. i turned and became very, very human, i guess you could say it. and i loved the woman intensely. when i was captured i told them, i said you people, i'll plead guilty to all crimes, any crime, innocent or guilty. you can execute me or give me life sentence, do whatever you want but i want her to be free. and i meant it. and i mean it today. if they tell me plead guilty, well, let her go free, i would do it. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> it was a long time coming
after 16 years on the lam and two years in custody, the criminal trial of james whitey bulger began today at the courthouse in south boston, just blocks away from whitey's former home turf. >> this is what it looked like at the courthouse here earlier this morning. the police escorted several black suvs rolling up to federal court. behind the tinted windows, james whitey bulger who is back in boston to face 19 charges of murder in the same city he is accused of terrorizing as a gang boss. >> some of the victims' families arriving today hoping to see justice done after waiting almost 30 years. >> it has been a really, really long time. >> how are you going to feel being in there? >> i don't know, sick to my stomach now, i can only imagine -- >> prosecutors described james whitey bulger at the center of mayhem and murder in boston for 30 years. the boss of boston's notorious
winter hill gang. >> you talk about people having shotguns stuck in their mouth, machine guns pointed at their groin. >> bulger shakes them down. it was absolute terror, back then, '70s, '80s, people were missing every day. >> didn't come home, he is a dead man, they're never going to find him. bodies were being -- taken left and right. bodies in south boston. >> you have a fascination with whitey bulger as a robin hood figure. this elusive, houdini crime boss, his younger brother was the most powerful politician in massachusetts. all of this stuff, it was sort of magical about him that made him seem beyond the reach of law enforcement.
>> there were over 25 years where james bulger ruled the organized crime world. he was never charged with even a misdemeanor. the department of justice did nothing to prosecute him. >> whitey was the guy that got away. whitey was the guy out in the wind thumbing his nose, ha, ha, i won, for years. >> so today it is huge, i think that -- there are so many people who never thought this day would ever happen. >> james whitey bulger fled boston in late 1994 as federal agents were about to arrest him in connection with 19 killings and other crimes that spanned the '80s and '70s. >> he was about to be indicted. >> bulger's role as an fbi informant is central to this
trial. >> now, he will face justice in the same city many say he ran with an iron fist. >> i'll be honest with you, i have today's date, june 12. but lately i couldn't -- past few days i couldn't tell you what -- it's the god's truth, i couldn't tell you if it was sunday, monday, friday. i was -- >> how come? >> my head has been so twisted over all of this. you know, it's like surreal. you know, it's -- it's happening. >> whitey killed my sister. she was looked upon as a good person. she would come in a room, and
she would -- light it up. >> you know, everybody -- he had no right to take her life. they took her teeth out, and hands -- >> did you get a hair cut? i want to introduce you. >> look, i didn't know i was supposed to get all dressed up. jesus christ -- today, i feel fantastic. well, 30 years ago they tormented me and it has been 30 years of tormenting. now it's coming to an end, thank god he is behind bars. my father always told me that good will always triumph over evil, even if it takes a long time. and that is just what i'm here for. >> you don't forget, you know
what i mean? >> every night. the only time, the comfort i get is talking with him. i thought -- me and steve met every morning just about every night for coffee. we had something in common with this psychotic individual. we were going to bring justice, it had to be done. >> nervous, exciting, the adrenalin is pumping. i just can't believe i'm finally here. i'll have my day. >> can you tell us before you go in what your thoughts are? >> anxious. >> what are you going to be thinking if you look at him -- >> well, you know, 30 years ago i have never looked at him. now i can't wait to look him right in the eye. >> it is day one of one of the most anticipated trials in
decades. >> cameras should have been allowed in the courtroom, obviously in federal court they are not. >> for boston, this case is about justice and redemption, and retribution. >> he did the dirty work himself because he was a hands-on killer who ran amok, in the city of boston, for 30 years. he was deeply involved in the history of drugs. >> bulger was one of the biggest informants in boston, he routinely met and gave information to protect himself. to get the competitive edge he wanted. >> he then showed the jury the pictures of the people investigated that they say bulger killed. >> they described the former associates, girlfriends, all killed and buried in secret graves. some relatives in court listening, choked up when they heard that. >> and the opening statements, they dramatically read off the names of the murder victims. >> roger wheeler, deborah davis.
>> this is not a traditional murder case. it is a racketeering charge, and with the racketeering charge there are multiple crimes we have to prove. we have to prove at least three of them, and bulger is charged with 19 separate murders, multiple extortions, drug dealing, gambling. and of those we have to prove at least two beyond a reasonable doubt and that bulger was part of the criminal enterprise committing those crimes within 30 years. >> the defense attorney stunned the courtroom admitting for the first time that bulger was involved in drug trafficking. >> james bulger was involved in drug-making, book dealing, loan sharking. these crimes are what he did. >> but he poked holes in government witnesses. >> he pointed the finger at them
as the real murderers. >> the defense said all of those three witnesses' testimony was important, cutting their prison sentences and offering them all sorts of incentives. >> given those three individuals and backgrounds and characters, would you believe them beyond a reasonable doubt? >> denied that bulger was an informant. >> the evidence will show he was never an informant. and the fbi. you will learn the depth of corruption in federal law
enforcement that existed during this period. this was how james bulger was able to never, ever be judged. >> the defense, defending him from an assertion that he was an informant even though it was not a charge. and so what seems crazy is the government has gotten sucked into this, as well. they're trying to prove he was, even though it is totally irrelevant. it is not about guilt or innocence. it is about his legacy, wanting to establish he was not a rat, an informant, whatever you want to call it. >> i was as surprised as anyone when james whitey bulger was captured. is the government excited about having bulger come back? some people certainly are. but there are others i think who have many sleepless nights about what james bulger is going to testify to. >> i believe the reason that they are giving so much protection to bulger, transported from the jail to the courthouse, is they're worried about someone with a sniper rifle taking them out on the way to court so that he can't testify. that is how explosive his testimony will be.
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>> this is whitey's world -- it is basically six miles if you drive it. up to castle island, that is where he did most of his crime. he murdered people there and buried people there, and he went to sleep there. so that is his world. >> i spent much of my childhood in south boston, and even as a kid i knew whitey bulger ran the show here. but whitey was very lucky. in the '60s there was an irish gang war and over 60 people were killed. but whitey was in prison so he missed all that.
he would have had a high, high chance of being the victim of that violence. when he got out of prison, whitey went to howie winter, who was the leader of the winter hill game, preeminent non-mafia gang here. he said we got to stop the war in the south, too many people, we're losing too many people and money. he was very impressed and impressed that whitey had done time in alcatraz. now for me and you, we would like to say i went to stanford and got my mba. but in that milleau, if you are a wise guy, oh, you went to alcatraz, he believed that whitey came across as a leader. so howie had the rival gang called the mullens. it was the mullens about to prevail. and the mullens' guys think they're about to get the lion's share of everything and howie threw them for a loop when he announced jimmy bulger
will front money for them, put money on the street, loan shark, do a gambling operation but whitey is going to be in charge. and the mullens guys are going are you kidding me? we were winning. and tommy king a member of the mullens, said we should have killed whitey when we had the chance. because this is going to come back to bite us. >> everybody knew everybody, watched out for everybody. it was great, we didn't have a lot but we had a lot of fun with what we had. both of my brothers went to harvard, i was the only male at home. i knew how to fight. i was kind of handy. i started working bouncing, ended up in triple o's. it was the neighborhood bar. kind of a rough bar.
that is where i met jim bulger. i was 18 at the time. jim was like an older brother, guiding me through the mine field and stuff. teaching me a lot as i went. when i first started working with him i started out small. you know, just you know, beating people up and little by little, take baby steps from gambling and loan sharking to extortion and stuff and doing extortions with jim bulger and stuff. i was making a lot of money. but the moment that everything changed for me, the moment my life changed was when i was involved in the first murder. it was a double homicide. so then i knew i was in, no getting out. so i decided if i'm going to do it i better do it right. i'm going to be the best at it that i can. >> it was tense in court tuesday between james whitey bulger and the man once like a son to him, kevin weeks, weeks was one of the government's star eyewitnesss. kevin weeks said he buried the bodies, moved the guns and collected the cash which book
makers and businessmen paid to stay in business. >> weeks calmly testified he watched james bulger brutally murder deborah hussey, and deborah mcentire. >> jim bulger shot him in the back of the head. he was strangled. he asked him if he wanted one in the head, he said yes, please. he said she is not dead. wraps a cord around her neck. she is buried. >> and the former bulger protege, weeks looked annoyed. >> so when you told me you never lied to the investigators, that was a lie. >> i've been lying my whole life, i'm a criminal. this is where whitey used to take his walks and meet with people.
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this is where whitey used to take his walks and meet with people. stay on the street for quite a while and that never should have happened. it is crazy. crazy. >> i worked organized crime most of my career. so i saw bulger going up the chain with the winter hill game. moving up into control. and in 1980, a young trooper working for me was assigned to go down and check out this garage down on the north end to
see about possible stolen car ring. and when we went by he noticed a lot of organized crime figures there. he called me, i went down and observed for myself and that is when we started this investigation. the garage was right up here just a little after the truck here. we took an apartment across the street and monitored for about four months every day. and then we saw james bulger. and steven flemmi. >> anybody who was anybody in organized crime in new england came here to this garage. people who were paying rent, protection money, people who were in the ring. >> they were meeting daily with the leaders of the new england mafia. it was unprecedented to see that. it was absolutely shocking to see that they were actually working together. that was like striking gold. >> what surprised me, i said where is the boston police?
where is the fbi? why isn't anybody else doing this? they're right here. and it was just shocking. and we monitored them. documented. and we have enough probable cause to go to a judge and issue a warrant so that we can place listening devices inside. planted a bug, it worked great. it was fine, next morning. one of the first conversations we picked up was what a great job the state police and the transport police do. so we knew the gig was up. somebody was protecting them. we knew we were had and we just couldn't figure out how. and one night, john morris with the fbi met a boston detective at a bachelor party. and he was in a drunken state and told the boston detective, i know you guys are working with the state on a wire on a bug down on lancaster street. and the bad guys know about it. i couldn't believe it. how does anybody know outside of our group? it didn't make sense.
>> james whitey bulger's relationship with the fbi will be the focus of testimony this morning. former fbi supervisor john morris is expected to take the stand. he was head of the fbi's organized crime squad during the '70s and '80s overseeing former agent john connelly. morris claims he and john connelly shielded bulger from prosecution. they planned to discuss james bulger's alleged 700-page fbi informant file. >> to understand the bulger story you really have to understand how the fbi got echelon informant programs to destroy the mafia. it really began before the program began, when joe valachi testified before the committee.
he came forward and described the hierarchy of the five families in new york. >> what is the name of the organization. >> cosa nostra, in italian. >> the first time one of these mafia guys was talking into a television camera. and it was a big deal. and it stole hoover's thunder. because hoover had no decades now denying that there was a mafia. now, hoover had a problem. he needed to make up for lost time and he needed to go out and get informants as dramatic and as explosive as joe valachi. >> we should all be concerned with one goal, the eradication of crime. the fbi is as close to you as your nearest telephone. it is to be your protector in all matters within your jurisdiction.
it belongs to you. >> the informant program was also what gave power to guys like john connelly. because how are you going to get guys like valachi? well, you need the fbi guys who walk the walk and talk the talk who can go out in the underworld and make deals with these guys. the powering influence of the swaggering agent within the hierarchy went way up. >> the informant handling, today with me is john connelly, a 15-year veteran of the fbi. how do you go about developing individuals for recruitment or targeting as an informant for the bureau? >> in the case of organized crime type people, you probably wouldn't want to target a boss, for instance. you would want someone perhaps close to the level of -- of criminal activity. but not necessarily involved. >> when john connelly was a boy he lived there in the same housing project with the
bulgers. and he was in awe of whitey who was a teenage thug with the platinum striking hair and the amazing hollywood good looks. so john connelly giving his history as a son of southy, his connection to the bulger family, he since was seen as forging an unholy alliance with bulger. >> this is the performance, the name of the game. you will get friendly with them and you will like them. but you never can forget who you work for. >> hello? >> hi, mr. bulger is on the phone. >> all right, please put him through. >> thanks for calling. there were a couple of things i wanted to ask you about. >> sure. >> the first is that you have
told me since the very first day i met you that you have never been an informant. >> that is correct. >> does that mean you have never been an informant in your entire life? >> never, as a teenager i took many a beating down at the police stations and i never cracked. as a bank robber i was captured. i pled guilty to free the girlfriend i was with, and i got a 20-year sentence, first offender. in prison i was part of an escaped plot but the plot fell apart. one of the guys gave my name. i told them i don't know what you're talking about. i spent months in the hole, naked and the hole thing. i went through a lot there and
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he doesn't know if he will live to the end of the trial, never mind to the end of the year. but for him it is like his last opportunity to tell people that he was never an informant. that our federal government is more corrupt in law enforcement than anyone ever imagined, even to this day in this trial. it is corrupt. and he wants people to know it. >> there are a lot of things we need dispel. the fact that jim was not an informant. everybody talks about it, books are written about it. until you actually go through it and make your own assessment you can't have an opinion. so getting involved, i had an opportunity, i don't think the public does i got to see the files that the government had to suggest he was an informant. i thought there were some things
about the file that were so suspicious that i wanted to look into it in depth. so i sat down and asked her to come up with an independent investment, whether she thought there was anything in the files. >> of course i was eager to start the files, look at the files. when it was handed to me, i thought how can it be fictitious. it seemed like it had to be solid. but i had gotten a lot of strange repetition in the file. what i have done is create tabs on every page where i found alternate sources for the information. and we learned that john connelly was pilfering through files and he took specific information and placed it in bulger's file. this alternate source comes from wire taps, phone calls, fbi memorandum. a top echelon file is supposed to be filled with unique information that can lead to a prosecution. and just based on the patterns that i found looking at other alternate sources it is just not consistent with someone who was providing unique information. like the first page of the file from may 29th.
advised the mafia whacked out a guy several weeks ago. he is in the trunk of the car. it doesn't tell who whacked him out, what guy, where the car is, there is no substantive information with it and no follow-up in the entire file. you turn to the last page, same year, same exact tip shows up. 1544, advise sources heard that they whacked out a guy several weeks ago and left the individual in the trunk. it is vague, no details and shows up twice in this file. >> this is not an unusual to see reports in one informant's file that are similar to reports in other informant's file. if the crime occurs, the law enforcement agency surveys their
informants. they get multiple reports from various informants about the same criminal activity. that is exactly what connelly was doing with bulger. >> the federal government is so desperate in this trial to try to convince people that he is an informant. because james bulger had such a strong and influential reputation his name had value as a commodity for the department of justice. they needed search warrants, take down the mafia. they needed something to put down to justify intrusions into people's civil liberties. nobody was going to look to see if the information was verified or true or not. was it enough for a magistrate to sign off on probable cause? and there was example after example that they took james bulger's name and used it as a commodity. >> it was a preposterous assertion, in fact, he used the fbi and they used him. what this is about frankly, he
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>> remember the day that hank and i were with you and showed you the so-called informant file. remember your reaction to see that? >> i was shocked, i was angry, i couldn't believe it. i considered the worst -- i couldn't believe that anyone could even dream of such a thing. i never knew it existed. >> did you recognize the information that was contained in it as anything that you would ever talk to john connelly about? >> no, i asked the questions, i got the answers. i was the guy that did the directing, they didn't direct me. >> what are some of the things they would give you in terms of tips? >> the things that we needed
most of, number one, wire taps. photo surveillance, indictments that were coming so guys could get a chance to make a run for it. >> so if you were not providing information to these people why were they willing to give you all of this information? >> for money, money is the common denominator, it is the way of doing business. happens all the time. it will never stop. >> remember you told me once that christmas is for kids and cops. how many people would you be paying off on a holiday period? >> oh, everybody i knew i took care of at christmas time. put money in envelopes for all of the different police. i had contacts in the state police, the boston police. the atf also and the fbi. there was more people than john connelly but i'm not going to say who they were. i would never say anybody's name, you know? but i took care of everybody. >> and was this cash? >> always cash. i never hand anyone money. i handed them an envelope. makes it a little bit easier for them to accept it, you know? all right, put the money maybe in a box if it was that much money. >> what was the most money you ever paid an fbi agent? >> at one time? >> yeah.
i don't know, maybe 25,000, 50,000. >> everybody can be corrupted. people are of the opinion that the fbi is above reproach. well, they're just regular people. they put their pants on like everybody else. they're regular people. except they have a badge that says special agent. but there is nothing special about them. they're regular people. you can corrupt them. maybe they like money, wine, jewelry, trips, whatever. there is always a way to corrupt somebody. >> during a rapid fire and sometimes intense cross examination, disgraced former fbi supervisor john morris admitted in taking thousands in cash from bulger. >> you were mr. bulger's paid informant, weren't you? >> that is not correct, he gave me money, but i was not his paid informant. >> gave his money, gifts, you
got a case of wine, did you throw it away? >> no, i kept it. >> i've seen a day like today, where you see thoroughly despicably corrupt fbi agents like john morris, the supervisor -- i mean, he was a moral coward. and you see him, and you see connelly taking advantage of him in all his weakness to bring him in to the group. you see that and you see what was allowed. and so the real story here is that our government enabled killers to run free in this city. you know? bulger used to wake up in south boston. and from south boston you can look across, and he would think i own that town. and he really did. and he owned it because he was allowed to turn the federal bureau of investigation into the bulger bureau of investigation. he put his tentacles into the bureau and turned it into
something that would work for him. and it was because they were all crazed about getting the mafia that they enabled the irish godfather to run the show here. and he was far more dangerous than the italians. >> so what we need to do is get inside a little bit and talk about how the fbi works. what the roles of certain people were like mr. connelly and mr. morris. and the more we can keep you on the stand from my perspective the better, because hopefully it will be able to really illustrate the efforts you made so they see the good side of law enforcement. you recognize there was a problem. you tried to do something to save lives. and because they were pursuing whatever agenda they were they shut you down. >> can i be candid with you? >> absolutely. >> i think the whole thing was a con, i think at some point they got in over their heads, and their success was wrapped around
bulger to the point where he had to be validated. he had to be made into this -- informant that gave them all of this information. >> that is the myth. >> that is the myth. >> i had a fascinating career. i worked organized crime. i worked fugitives. and so, when the boston problem was going on. how come they're not getting along together? they had territorial issues. the state police was blaming the fbi for cavorting with criminals. they formed the opinion that the agents were doing something bad.
as it turned out. they were. they didn't know it then. i didn't know it then. so, i go out and -- interview bulger. and assess him. suitability if you will. i arrive that bulger's place. and met at the door by bulger. he has a baseball cap on. he has sunglasses. he has a muscle shirt. i hold out my paw, my hand. and he doesn't take it. and oh, okay. you know? so i look at my empty hand. i follow him in. the place is dark. and we walk in the back. i say, look. bulger. i am here to find out what you are doing for us. what are you doing for us? and he gets angry. and about that time -- conley cops out. remember, this is mano-a-mano. one-on-one. i get very angry. and i look over. he says, hi, fitsy, how are you
doing? i am saying to myself. oh, this is, this does not look good. but then -- we had the conversation abut him. i finally get conversation back. and what he tells me is -- that he is not an informant. that he has his own informants. and he pays them. they don't pay him. he is the head of a gang. he runs the gang. he is not going to testify. now all of those elements are elements to me that i am going to close this guy as an informant. if you are an informant for the fbi head of the gang. then the fbi is validating the gang. you are actually part of the gang and the management process. so to me he is a big problem. close him. get rid of him. and that's where i go back and tell my boss. from that point on, i get resistance. there are no branchs. 24/7. oeveryone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real.
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and they had tapes of jerry angiulo. bragging about murder. but they also had him talking about -- "i have a couple of guys who will do anything for us. named whitey and stevie. they will kill anyone we ask them to." and so at the end of that trial, it was a huge victory for the fbi in boston. they had just wiped out the new england family. decimated them. >> yesterday, a federal grand jury sitting at boston, returned a 20-count indictment. charging 7 individuals. including jerry angiulo. >> the boston fbi, they were heroes, and john connoly was the guy with the most informants, top echelon informants. as the mafia is being decimated stepping into the vacuum, whitey bulger and i'm asking and ic'm asking jerry o'sullivan, why aren't you
going after them. what about these guys? well, they're not the threat that, the mafia, that the mafia is an international organization. whitey is a local hoodlum. we're the strike force. we go after the big guys. whitey was becoming the big fish. >> jim bulger wants to explain to the jury,why for 25 years he could be on top of the organized crime pyramid in boston. and never once be charged with a crime. the chief of the organized crime
john conley said they pledged allegiance to each other. that's a pretty significant event, an event, by the way, that was never mentioned or even alluded to in this trial. the government didn't want it to be. because then you would have this very ironic situation of the u.s. attorney's office in boston, the very office that is currently prosecuting whitey bulger had some kind of corrupt relationship with whitey bulger that they're not being totally forthcoming about.
a prosecutor telling a crime member that he could kill at will, based on a personal promise to guarantee his safety is so absurd, so ludicrous. we've run out of words, like ludicrous, to describe it. >> today. >> this whole case is predicated on a bunch of people i tried to put in jail. and the true story is that the criminal justice system is basically been co-opted by bulger, by fleming. now, certain people are culpable in the fbi, but certain people are culpable in the department of justice. so i have to go there and present the kroout.
>> robert bifitzpatrick said th environment was tense. fitzpatrick said bulger surprised him by saying he was not an fbi informant, that he was never paid anything by the fbi to provide information. >> fitzpatrick recommended closing bulger as an informant, but headquarters thought he was too valuable in the quest to bring down the mafia. after several hours on the stand, prosecutors began a tough examination of fitzpatrick. first question? >> you're a man who likes to make up stories, aren't you? no. didn't you gra tuously claim credit for arresting a mob general. >> the attorney general said are you in medication? kelly said does it affect your memory? not that i recall said fitzpatrick and several people in the court laughed. >> i thought the guy was very
angry. he should have been a lot more professional. >> fob fitzpatrick was one of the first people to say this was rotten here. he's drummed out of the fbi. now here he is at this trial. and they really seek to destroy him, to humiliate him. it was personal. he comes in to testify, he's really a rebuke to the entire system and to everyone who stood back for 20 years that bulger was in power and allowed it to happen. a lot of people were complicit in that. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches?
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>> we know there was a relationship between the department of justice and the success of james bulger. nobody wants to tell that story. they protected him for decade. they're still lying about it. the u.s. attorney's office has an exhibit. a very important exhibit. a memorandum from special agent in charge, in the 19 '80s, lawrence sarrart. that the government pretend this memorandum shows james bulger is an informant. so during the trial we learn information that there is a secret safe in the boston sac, special agent in charge's office in the criminal division and in the safe supposedly documents, go into it and never come out again.
we also learned that there was a secretary who had worked for decades in the boston fbi, she is 82 years old. still working for the boston fbi so she is the person who knows whether or not a secret safe exists. >> when we called the secretary as a witness, new documents appeared. while they told the jury and public this is the truth at this trial what we learned when we called the secretary is that there were other documents that existed. the same exact memo that the government introduced at this trial, from the same person, exact copy of it, we learned that the memo was not complete. there is an observation section. mr. sarrart says i am not certain i am convinced the
informant is telling the full story of his involvement. consideration should be given to making him a target. so what did they do with this information? the government and this trial leaves that part out until we expose it. what else do they do with the information back in, 1980? what we have learned from the secretary exactly what they did with that information. the actual memorandum that was given to her, she put in an envelope by direction of mr. sarrart and put in the safe. it says strictly eyes only. nobody other than special agent in charge can see it. any time a new special agent in
charge would take the place of an old or, resigning or moving on. tell them about the document in the safe. it stayed in the safe for generations of special agents, in charge, they took each other's spot. one special agent in charge said, get rid of this or we'll all get fired. what could be so terrible about this document that they could lose their job, that james bulger was an informant. or they knew he wasn't an informant. they knew he should have been targeted and he was being protected. >> the defense complaining about the sarrart memo is a desperate tactic, another version of let's pretend. because they're pretending they didn't have the documents which they did. there was nothing sinister about it. it was disclosed. they had it. and it didn't prove anything other than the fact that, there was, head of the fbi, was concerned about keeping bulger open as an informant. it proves bulger was an informant. sat with the head of the fbi, gave them all information which
was useless. in fact he was reporting it to the fbi that makes him an informant. >> the latest twist -- >> tuesday steven brigs was dropped from the witness list. >> brigs was set to testify. prosecutors told him he was no longer needed to take the stand. >> 30 years of torment, now it is coming to an end. >> hello. no, i have in been able to. i am going by his house later. i haven't been able to get ahold of him. anything. yeah. he is probably besides himself about it. they took him off the witness list. i tried calling him after court. his phone went rekt to voice mail. i called him all day yesterday. same, after court. same thing. i am going to go over. give him a little time to cool down. yeah.
where? i don't know, what was the body described like? that's him. that's him. i'm going by his house right now. yeah, i will call you right back. >> he's dead? what? what happened? >> they found him on the side of the road in lincoln. >> in lincoln, massachusetts. >> who is in lincoln, massachusetts. >> i have to go by his house right now. >> oh, my god, no way. >> steven brigs, a courthouse regular, coming to the bulger trial. waiting for the day that he would testify, but riggs would never get that chance. >> see the corruption? >> let's not jump to a conclusion. let's say a prayer he is okay. >> is his car here, steven. >> no. >> can you go knock on the door and see.
>> i knew something was wrong. i talked to him every day. we would meet for coffee. you know, that's got my stomach turning. thinking is anyone else in danger. >> would his testimony, i used to say to him, steven what do you have to say, what is it? oh, you will see. you will see. believe me you will see how deep, the people, you will see. >> key witness in the whitey bulger trial is dead. >> a source tells cnn authorities call the death suspicious. >> don't know what the cause was, no sign of trough ma. >> the body is 7 miles away from where his automobile was and did not have any identification on him. >> so cause of death was a heart attack. an aneurysm. you know, is it? we'll never really know. do you believe what they tell you or did something really happen.
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>> prosecutors put former hit man on the stand to prove that bulger's rain was murderous. >> perhaps the most feared member of bulger's gang. >> killing was routine. >> served just 12 years in prison as part of a deal with federal prosecutors. >> the confessed murderer was asked about killings he committed including roger wheeler.
>> the murders are the heart of this. because they show how ugly and sordid everything became. it is shocking. he killed -- in day light, at a country club while kids at the swimming pool are watching. >> who was roger wheeler? >> the owner of jai alai, world jai alai. >> did that game involve gambling? >> yes. >> the bank of boston brought them the jai alai deal. part of the deal. kept asking them. he said the fbi keeps it clean. it's run by retired fbi agents that specialized in investigating organized crime. >> wheeler buys jai alai, it is infiltrated by the mob and connected to winter hill.
>> hired john callahan as president. they had h. paul rico head of security. rico was a corrupt ex-fbi agent. had relations with winter hill. callahan the architect that brought the scheme forward with rico off to kill wheeler, and go to the widow and buy world jai alia. they would be the owners money kicked back. paul rico resell it to back up here who was involved before. >> callahan asked me to take out roger wheeler. >> was was your reaction? >> couldn't do that without everybody else on board. >> when you say get everybody else on board. who did you mean? >> whitey and stevie.
>> there were honest fbi agents in oklahoma who wanted to get to the bottom of the murder of roger wheeler. bulger and fleming were implicated. the fbi in boston lied to oklahoma. and said bulger and fleming had nothing to do with it. they had alibis. we checked it out. that was a lie. murderers went free because of it. >> you hold the fbi as responsible as bulger for the death of your father? >> more responsible. the fbi has protected him. they have supervised him. and -- without the fbi, my father would alive today. >> next person that emerges in this story is brian halloran. halloran facing his own
problems. charged with murdering a drug dealer the he need help. and to make a deal. and so he comes forward, and he can give up whitey bulger and steven fleming she's because they were part of a plot to kill roger wheeler. halloran is a threat. they eliminate him. in the process they kill, michael donahue. somebody he knew from the neighborhood. >> of the 19 alleged murder victims, their loved ones have become fixtures at the trial to. day patricia donahue took the stand. >> all i want to do is clear my husband's name. i've did not want him associated with the mafia, with whitey bulger, with brian halloran. he wasn't into that. he didn't know those people. he was innocent. he wasn't in trouble. he wasn't a mafia man. he wasn't a killer. mike was 32 when he died. would have been 33 in a week. whitey pulled the trigger. i blame the fbi too.
they knew what was going to happen. there goes whitey. i'm serious. right there. yeah. we'll see you in there, you low life. michael donahue was murdered because he offered a neighbor, brian halloran a ride home. unbeknownst to michael donahue, halloran was cooperating with the fbi about to reveal james bulger was involved in the murder of roger wheeler. >> after the wheeler murder, halloran comes in. and he wants to talk. we open him up as an informant. he becomes telling us that this was done by bulger and fleming. so i opened up murder cases on,
on bulger and fleming. you have to understand something here. halloran is giving us the subject. he is telling us this guy is the killer. of wheeler. bulger is the killer of wheeler. that's a plus. that is a big plus. they should be very happy. they being, the department of justice, and the strike force chief. jerry o'sullivan. yet they're not. o'sullivan said no. i'm not going to put halloran in a witness protection program. why not? so i went over o'sullivan's head. i want the few united states attorney. and i said to bill weld i said bill we got a problem. i have an informant. halloran who is going to tell us who did this stuff. and o'sullivan is feeling he should not be in the witness protection program. i told weld he is going to get whacked. >> at the same time, john morris at the fbi told john connolly
that brian halloran was revealing bulger's involvement. he knew full well that connoly was reveal that information to whitey bulger. he did. >> we receive word from the fbi brian halloran was cooperating with the fbi about the murder. jim bulger, steve fleming and others, go out looking for him. one day we got word that brian halloran was on the waterfront. michael donahue happened to go down to the pier in south boston to get fish to use as bait to take one of his sons on a fishing trip. and he stopped to have a were on his way home. he ran into brian halloran who was his neighbor. he offered to give him a ride home. >> so we went down the waterfront. the weapons, everyone was geared
up. and stuff. i want down ahead. i sat across the street and watch to make sure brian halloran was there. when he started coming out. i told jim bulger. bulger pulled up. he said brian halloran killed him. michael donahue was an unintended victim. he wasn't supposed to be getting kill. it was brian halloran. he wanted to kill. you hang around wise guys, this is what happened. >> patricia donahue has spent the last 32 years raising three sons without her husband michael. today she faced his alleged killer, james whitey bulger. >> michael made his first communion. a news bulletin came on the tv about a slaying. i didn't pay any attention to it. i know it didn't concern me. i happened to look up and see the car. i said i think that was his car. i mean, i was hyperventilating. i was confused. i'm thinking, oh, my god, where is he? i need to be with him.
i don't want him to die alone the i have so much stuff i want to say to him. nobody came until, 10:00 that night. so when they took me to the hospital. finally, he had already passed. within days of the killing fbi agents came to my house. and harassed me. accused of having an affair with my husband's friend staying with us from out of town. i was look, what? for months they used to sit outside my salon. you know, sit outside the house. say, how you doing? have you found out any more information on my husband? no. nothing yet. and the whole time they knew. i was devastated because i did not think the government was like that. and i think, you know them, and you find out they're not who you think they are. >> in the halloran and donahue murders. nothing happens. the fbi decides to look for john callahan. we need to question john callahan.
he is the other guy, implicated in the murder of roger wheeler. they're hunting for him to question him. then he is murdered. again, nothing happens. the fbi in boston, who do they send out to question, bulger and fleming. john connoly. their handler. he is objective, right? >> the fbi, they haven't been on our side since the day they killed my father. took them 4 1/2 hours to come to my house to tell my mother. my mother, whether my father was dead or alive. they covered up the murder of my father. helped pretty much, set it up. it's, it's shameful. it's shameful. i think the fbi is worse than the mafia. the worst organized crime family on the planet.
who can do what they want. change the laws. not to be screwed with to be honest for you. we have seen that firsthand. >> tell us what it was look to be on the stand. look into whitey bulger's eyes. >> i looked at him. he wouldn't look at me. so as far as i'm concerned. he is a coward. he can kill people and not look the victims in the face. that's a coward. that's a coward. >> you have been getting more answers from his defense team? >> i am. i am. [ indiscernible question ] the questions asking my mother, those are questions that the government should be asking my mother. did you notice the government stood up and blocked every question that i asked. they don't want us to know anything. there was blood right there. he was asking questions to ask us, we were getting blocked by the prosecution. where do we go here, folks? >> in the early '90s when fred and i first started working on this case, it was strange to us . before receiving $25 toward her balance each quarter for making more than her minimum payment on time each month.
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>> in the early '90s when fred and i first started working on this case, it was strange to us to say the least that -- that bulger had been allowed to run amok in the city of boston for so long. we suspected bulger had some relationship with the fbi he was using to prevent prosecution of himself. it was in that atmosphere that we began the case and targeted him. he worked with tom foley, also tom duffy from the state police. so we decided to follow the money. we started targeting a bt fom
line bookmaker. with some of the informants that we had. put up a bunch of wiretaps. we started climbing up the book makers' organizations until we actually had the -- the highest level, with that bookmaker doing the handoff to bulger and as far as payments go. >> it took us about, four, five years to get there. by 1995, we had our first racketeering indictment. >> back then, fred took a lot of hits over the years. and -- he had the courage to go up against the system. brian kelly, too. there was many, right inside the u.s. attorney's office. that were -- in denial. didn't want to see this come forward. and -- they said well we are going to wait. we will do a joint investigation with the fbi and i knew at that time, that this was, another stall tactic. and -- i told them that, i said, okay. that tea the way you want to go. the state police's position, publicly will be, you had the opportunity to indict them and you didn't indict them. so they went back. had another huddle with the u.s. attorney. they came back.
and said the indictment. we will indict them. but, they insisted that the fbi participate in the arrest. so state police targeted. the fbi said they will take bulger. then one night on january 5th. we found fleming. and we arrested him on the streets of boston. and we notified the fbi, okay, grab bulger. and that was the end of that. they never had bulger. didn't know where he was. and, it was 16 years later before we saw james whitey bulger again. we expected he was tipped off. we found out later that's what happened. one of the fbi agents in boston. told john connoly, the indictments were coming down. he passed the information along to bulger.
after months of sitting in jail, steven fleming realized. the fbi and john connoly were coming to the rescue. he decided to out himself. in fbi's informants. >> did you have any idea that fleming was an informant until he revealed it in a court hearing in 1999. >> i didn't know that stevie did that. i had no idea. and when i heard it i was shocked. i mean, stevie was like my brother. i was so close to him. he fooled me. the mafia. johnny, everybody. i was shocked. and the court, he's glaring at me. looking at him. thinking, you are looking at me. i never said a word against you. i'm the injured party. >> it was a tense reunion. 18 years in the making. finally, james whitey bulger and his partner, the steven "the rifleman" fleming were reunited. fleming took the stand against bulger.
>> fleming is considered to be the most critical witness in this case. >> in rapid fire expression, bulger's alleged role. >> fleming is under pressure, they're talking about women. >> bulger is charged with strangling deborah housy and debbie davis. they're trying to suggest it was fleming. >> grilled the witness on a sexual relationship with his then girlfriend, teenage daughter, deborah hussey. >> fleming says hussey turned into a drug user and embarrassment. they had to kill her. >> at bulger's trial, fleming said that bulger murdered deborah davis after the two men decided she knew too much. >> fleming claims bulger said davis had to be killed. i couldn't do it, fleming testify. he said, bulger said i will take care of it. i will do it. grabbed her around the threat
and strangled her. >> my sister debbie, she dated steve fleming for over nine years. she loved him. she did love him. but, at one point she wanted to get married. she wanted kids. and my sister wanted kids. >> it was just, rocky road from then on. >> she said i'm leaving. i'm leaving the state. and i think, whitey, would have taken that as a threat. and, you know, taking secrets. >> fleming became more and more defensive and more and more resistant to the questions as hank brennan just cut into him. fleming was a rel rehearsed witness now he testified in throw trials, three civil proceedings. in one court, he says bulger strangled her with a rope. in another proceeding he said he strangled her with his hand. then in the third proceeding, he said he thought that bulger had her in a headlock.
end of the day, inconsistencies, yes they are there. do they stop bulger from being convicted. it does not look like that is significant enough to do that. >> two of the charges against you, jim, are that you were involved in the murder of deborah hussey. and debbie davis. did you have any involvement in the two case at all? >> no way. those were stevie's girlfriends. that's his problem. had nothing to do with me. nothing. do you feel he was fully capable of committing these by himself. >> one of the guys asked him something about a murder. he says, well, he has been involved in so many murders. he has to say to the guy. show me the list. he needed a list to show him, what murder are you talking
about. this guy here is, i think he is insane myself. stevie. >> whitey bulger cannot have people think he murdered those two women. he cannot have people think he was an informant. this is not about getting acquitted. this is about changing the narrative back to the one he spent years cultivating. that narrative is he is a good, bad guy. he is a gangster with scruples. he is a criminal with standards. and gangsters with scruples, do not murder women and bury them in shallow graves. criminals with standards, don't turn on their friends. >> today could be an interesting so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates.
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>> today could be an interesting day at the trial of james whitey bulger. >> the big question, will whitey take the stand? >> everybody is waiting on baded breath to find out. >> my prediction he will testify. he looks so bad if he doesn't. >> today is the big day. end of a case. i want to let them know, that i will be with him. behind him no matter what decision. if he wants to testify, then, might have to set behind. if he doesn't. i understand as well. >> the defense was hoping to present a defensive immunity. that bulger had been given immunity by the former u.s. attorney. before the trial they got the answer from this judge. no they couldn't. they were stripped of that defense.
>> it is an interesting argument. but, it is -- some what convenient to make the argument because jeremiah t. o'sullivan is dead. and there is no written evidence. that we have seen. >> in courtroom 11, a moment of high drama. whitey's lawyer stood up and said the defense rests. >> bulger will not take the stand. >> the judge asked if he made that choice, voluntarily, but he stunned everyone. >> i'm making the choice involuntarily, bulger said. >> i feel i have been choked off from having an opportunity to give an adequate defense and explain about my conversation and agreement with jeremiah o'sullivan. >> for my protection of his life. in return he promised to give me immunity. >> the judge said she ruled bulger's claim was inadmissible. >> he said. >> as far as i'm concerned i didn't get a fair trial.
and this is a sham. >> do what you want with me. that's it, my final word. >> patricia donahue, yelled, your's a coward. >> i yelled out you are a coward. because that's what he is. this man first claims he has immunity which he thinks gives him the right to kill all these people. now he blames an unfair trial on the department of justice. yet he won't get on the stand and tell all. if you've think that the government is done wrong by you. get up there and talk about it. >> at the end of the day, bulger's immunity claim was a ridiculous claim. when he is given the chance to present it, he didn't. his immunity claims were part of his -- game of let's pretend. i'm going to testify. let's pretend i have a license to kill. let's pretend i am not an informant. >> so many people have the opinion of whether or not he was an informant or not. is irrelevant. this is the central issue in this case. >> the truth is that james bulger was not informing.
the reason why it is dangerous for the department of justice to recognize the fact that he wasn't an informant. that if mr. bulger was paying people on the fbi as he was. headquarters didn't do anything about it. the division wasn't there. didn't do yearly reports or reviews. calls into question the affidavits. it calls into question, all convictions they had. >> think about the implications. think what happened in the 1980s. the crown jewel of the department of justice was to get the italian mafia. they wanted to infiltrate the headquarters of the angiulos, prince street, north end. they needed affidavits. what did they do? used bulger's name. we know he didn't give them information. their witnesses will admit that. he was added on to search warrants. affidavits as a courtesy to john
connolly. what would happen when the federal government admits he wasn't part of the search warrants. every attorney who represented every mobster, would sue the federal government. they lose all their convictions. they lose all of the jail time. all of the sentences. all these accolades, attorneys, fbi agents earned. their reputations they earned. they would be gone. they're not going to give that up. and probably the most importantly is civil liability off to the families. that's why you have this, this resounding, unrest with the families. they have lost loved ones. at some point it has to be closure. they're entitled to closure, as citizens. this government will give them no closure. they have pretense they have off to keep. rather than saying we sanctioned this not with james bulger we sanctioned organized crime to go
out and kill. we protected them. did it before. did it here. we're going to do it again. we have done it again. they can't admit that. the families suffer over and over, never getting the answer. are they going to overturn convictions let everybody go. will they be civilly liable for their lies. prosecute themselves? it is never going to happen. so he has to be an informant. >> prosecutors for james whitey bulger get their last chances to persuade jurors in bulger's murder and racketeering trial. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> both side get three hours to sum up their cases what are they going to do with all that time? >> an extraordinary amount of time. for sure. the government said it needed more time. >> one of most vicious, violent, calculating criminals ever to walk the streets of boston. it doesn't matter whether or not mr. bulger is an fbi informant.
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>> the united states versus james j. bulger is over. >> this trial has been going on two months. the jury has been deliberating. >> the jury has made a decision in this case. we are waiting to see exactly what it is. >> whitey bulger faces possible maximum life in prison. the caveat, this man is 83 years of age. >> bulger standing now in the courtroom. he hears the word, to count one for racketeering, conspiracy, guilty. for count two, just waiting here for word out of the courtroom.
that it is guilty verdict as well. count two. now within the second one, were all of these acts, all of the acts of murder, racketeering, act one, that was not proven. >> for racketeering act two, we are hearing that as not proved. racketeering act number three, not proved. four, not proved. five, not proved. narcotics distribution conspiracy. >> proved. >> waiting on this. that is proved. >> conspiracy to murder roger wheeler. proved. and the murder of john callahan also proved. >> the murder of brian halloran, proved. >> murder of michael donahue. proved. >> murder of deborah hussey. proved. >> important for steven davis. murder of deborah davis, no finding. >> whitey bulger convicted on 31 of 32 counts of racketeering, conspiracy, murder, extortion. >> the jury found that the government proved the murders of 11 of 19 alleged victims. >> the jury convicted bulger of, 31. acquitted him of one count. >> as theater, the trial delivered.
but ultimately it was a disappointment to me. those, journalists, interested parties, following the story for decade. hoped the trial was going to be a final accounting of the bulger era. of all the things that made bulger possible. it fell far short. >> with the conviction of james bulger. we hope we stand here to mark the end of an era that was ugly in boston's history. >> jesus christ al mighty. this is baloney. a sham trial. i think the feds have the green light, nobody ever checks on them. the media is not there. like they would look the public to believe they are. these reporters, from the fbi agents. then they're, write crime stories. they write books and everything else. hand in fist with them. one thing they all know is it
works. it works. it gets convictions. there is no lessons learned. can't get a fair trial or hearing. this system here, it isn't going to change. it isn't going to change. it will never change. >> whitey bulger is a vicious, venal murderer. he he was enabled by the fbi and the fbi was enabled by the justice department. to the day, the justice department as far as i'm concerned was engaged in a cover-up. to minimize the extent of fbi corruption. >> to know this is how uh you are treated as an american citizen. when the fbi agents protect killers, and come and take your loved ones life. you can be sitting here, don't you want to know what really went on? why they really did it? >> if everybody told the truth, everything would come together. but everybody fashions things to, to benefit themselves. which is natural, i guess.
but everybody is trying to twist the story a little buy. no one is going to know the truth until everybody starts telling the truth. that's of what imcomes done to. people are going to have to come to their own conclusions. people out there believe jim bulger was an informant. people are going to say he dent murder women. other people say he did murder women. so the true story will never be known. >> today was a good day for a lot of families. today also wasn't ape good day for a lot of families. my heart goes out to them. i would look to do a chance for them. we will not forget you. one person, who should be here, how about a nice cheers to stevie riggs! [ applause ] >> yes, i hold the fbi response bum. good god they protected this man. years later we find out everything he has been doing getting away with it. listen it takes a village to