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them down to make them more transportable. this is also important because as they move those pieces of wreckage around in recent days and weeks they discovered human remains. that's crucial because nine of the 298 people aboard that aircraft are still to be accounted for. >> think about their families. phil black, thank you very much for bringing that reporting to us. top of the hour now i'm pamela brown in for brooke baldwin. in minutes from now we'll go live to indianapolis where the parents of peter kassig are about to speak. kassig is the former army ranger who went to syria as a humanitarian aide worker but captured by isis. he became the third northeastern beheaded at the hands of militants. proof of his decapitation coming in the form of a short clip tacked on to the end of the group's latest propaganda video.
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kassig is not seen. instead his head appears at the feet of a masked man. the video does show in grew some detail the beheadings of what the group claims are pilots for the syrian government. president obama condemning kassig's murder as an act of pure evil while kassig's parents release this never before heard video of their son before his capture. >> we have a chance here to make up for all the wrong in this part of the world. we stepped in the right way. if we just as a country like did what other people helped me do in that hospital, how much the impact the political situation inside syria as done. how much the political situation back home, none. but what it did do is that over a period of time like in that hospital i was able to share a little bit of hope and comfort
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with some people. they were able to teach me something about themselves that i wouldn't have known otherwise. and we each were given an opportunity to look at the conflict in a different way. >> joining me now are senior international correspondent. you were a friend to kassig. you met him two years ago when he was beginning the journey that would see him end up in syria. tell bus that. >> reporter: that audio you just played there, pam, that really epitomizes so much what peter stood for. it brings a sad smile to one's face because he was trying in his own way not just to help the wounded syrians he was treating or deliver humanitarian aid but build an ever so small bridge between result turs. he felt that through his experiences with the wounded syrians, with the syrians he was trying to help he could somehow bring about perhaps less hatred
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of the united states, of the western world, bring about a measure of understanding that not all americans were out to get the middle east, that there were individuals like him that genuinely wanted to help and vice versa as well whenever he would speak to friends and family back home at the u.s. he would give them this entire different take on syria perhaps the one they were used to. we first met him back in 2012 in a hospital in tripoli. it was quite the sight. there he was this former army ranger, pale, at that too, not speaking a lot of arabic but his compassion transcended the language barrier and he was an individual who believed in doing. he used to always say wanting to help, saying you want to help was not enough. you had to go out there and do it. just a few months after we met him i remember being so surprised when he told us and told me he actually accomplish this.
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but a few months after we met him he had set up his own nonprofit that was delivering humanitarian aid to refugee, syrian refugees in turkey, inside syria and also carrying out much needed medical bigs to areas in syria that were dangerous and it was on one of those missions that he was as we know kidnapped by isis back in october of 2013. >> clearly so brave in so many ways. he told you about his change of heart from his soldier to humanitarian working to save lives. did he talk to you about the new risks he faced, about whether he was ever concerned for his life? >> reporter: yeah. i think you put it best and of course he was concerned for his life but he put it best in what he said to a syrian doctor who was working alongside with. the syrian doctor asked him and they were in syria at the time. just a few days before he was kidnapped. and he asked him your not afraid
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for your life and peter's response was my life is not more precious than yours and at this stage i feel as if i am a part of the syrian revolution. so, yes, he knew the risks but he had such a profound belief and need to actually go out there and do something himself that he put that behind him. he acknowledged the risks. he knew what he was getting into. he felt it was so important to help the syrian people and knowing what i know, what all of us know about peter at this point in time he wouldn't want the focus to be on what deor what's happened him to. he would want the focus to be on why what he was doing was so important. why it's so important to help the syrian people. and why despite what has happened to him and so many others, it's so important for us whether it's us as journalists or us as aid workers or us quite simply as members of the global community that happen to be more
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fortunate than others that we not give up on a place like syria, that we continue to fight for those that are most desperate, that we continue to do whatever it is that we can, whether it is through spotlighting, highlighting the plight of innocent civilians or delivering humanitarian aid to them. but this is a point in time that i do genuinely believe peter would want us to be focusing on what's happening inside that war-torn country, especially to those innocent victims of the ongoing brutal fighting. >> to discussion on a purpose bigger than ourselves. thank you very much. and unlike the glossy productions of the past at least some of the latest footage appears to be more hastily produced in the latest isis video leading some believing that isis is getting more desperate. this one indicates these guys are on the run. so joining me now to discuss this, senior fellow foundation for defense of democracy isis.
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thanks for coming on. there's some notable differences in this video with peter kassig compared to the other beheading videos. what struck you? >> the most striking difference is the fact that it doesn't show the beheading on camera. isis is an organization that likes to draw thourt error that's why with previous americans they beheaded each of these were released as a scandalous video. here you don't see that at all. instead it was tacked on at the end. this lead me to condition include it's most likely in some way kassig disrupted the beheading scene. we know in the past they staged mock executions prior to actually killing people. they did this, for example with james foley and the reason why they only have one cut to get a beheading exactly right. they want the person to be sub missive, defeated and slaughtered. if the person resists as kassig may have that disrupts their shot. >> it was interesting also
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because in the other videos, the horrific videos the beheadings and prisoners are the centerpiece of it. but this was at the vend of a long video, talking about sort of the history of isis and showing other beheadings and at the very end, kassig, what do you make of that. what do you think the calculation was here? >> like i said i think because something went wrong when they were killing him. that's why it's an after thought of a video focusing on other matters. ideally for them they would have liked to it be its own video. second thing, isis has been well-known amongst analysts and people following the releases for having very high production values in particular they often have multiple camera angles. here at the very end when you have that awkward jihadist execution by kassig's head there's only a single camera. one thing suggests they may be concerned about air strikes. that's why they don't have two cameras out there, that's why they don't have the beheading
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outdoors. these are possibilities worth considering but we don't know, i would caution, enough into their strategic thinking taos this video. >> it's a all a guessing game right now. you do make a good point because it's been said perhaps kassig didn't cooperate. when you watch the other videos you won what was going through their minds when they so calmly the prisoner so calmly talked to the camera before they were beheaded. you wonder if there was sort of mock beheadings going on before that and what they were going through. so the bottom line is we just don't know. another theory is that perhaps isis is trying to build bridges with al nusra. do you think that could have played in,000 this video was produced. >> as to one point you made about mock executions this is something we actually do know occurred in foley's case. cnn has reported on that. that's important pause that helps to explain exactly why
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people are so calm before they are beheaded because they have beening walked through this multiple times. as to the reconciliation between al nusra and isis this is something important to watch. my own read on this is one of the major reasons that the reconciliation talks are occurring isis is in a weakened state. it seems advantageous to eliminate one of the fronts they are fight on. if so still no love lost between al nusra and al qaeda on one hand and isis as the other. al qaeda and isis -- al nusra and isis would like to play each other. whether that video plays in to that i don't think it does. if you look at the initial video, it's very much taking isis' view of the history of al qaeda in iraq which very different than al qaeda's own history spoi
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history. >> let me ask you this. do you think u.s. efforts with the strikes, the drone surveillance made a difference here and that's why perhaps in some parts the quality of the video isn't as good and we're not seeing the same in this video as we saw in videos snaft >> i do think it's a possibility at the end that's a reason they don't have multiple cameras out there because it can be a giveaway for any sort of air strikes. it's unclear. >> thank you very much. we're still waiting to hear from family of peter kassig, that statement is expected at 3:30 eastern time. we'll bring that to you live. coming up, breaking news. two cases cnn brought to you on cnn the hunt. two people police were searching for have been found. that's ahead. also just in, the governor of missouri activating the national guard ahead of the grand jury decision in ferguson. we'll be right back.
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we are already getting responses from some of the people who have been protesting here even some of the residents who i've talked to who are saying this seems to be a huge overreaction being that there's been no real violence in the past 90 days of the protesting. we're at about 100 days plus of daily protests here in ferguson. some people are saying this is inflaming the situation more, but the governor has said over the past week or so that he wanted to make sure the state is prepared, make sure that business and residents here in ferguson and surrounding cities in st. louis felt they were protect and safe. the protesters for their part have said we have been protesting peacefully. yes we've been loud. yes we sometimes use words that the police do not like. yes sometimes we're in their face. but we have been generally peaceful and this just adds fuel to the fire trying to paint us
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as violent protesters. that being said we do know that there are a few cells out there who have been talking and planning on doing things that are destructive. the protesters that have been here on a daily basis and residents here in ferguson have said if we see someone being violent, if we see somebody acting out in that way, we will do our best to stop them from hurting our community but we do want to be able to speak our minds. this has been a very, very difficult time here for some people in ferguson. the businesses saying they are hurting because of what has been happening. on the other hand, they do believe in people's right to be out in the streets as long as it's peaceful and i want has been peaceful for most of the time. this announcement by the governor, it will be interesting to see, by the end of the day how that affects the protests tonight. >> because, we heard the governor last week say that he would have the national guard on stand by but now he's activating
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the national guard. do we know anything about the timing of this, what prompted this now. of course we're waiting for the grand jury decision, do you know if there's anything else at plame here? >> we do not know. we're trying to get in touch with the governor's was to ask if this was something that they are trying to let us know that there's something about to happen or if this was just something they would normally do to make sure that the national guard is ready to be activated if, indeed, needed to help support the local police. we do know -- there are 60 police departments in and around ferguson who could at any time be called to come in. the protesters, again, it infuriates them they say look for so many days, so many weeks we've been out protesting peacefully. we don't need a huge police force-out here. we're trying to police ourselves and they have shown an example of that throughout this hundred days or so. so there is a lot of frustration
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on the side of protesters who feel they are being painted a certain way when they say they are just exercising their rights of freedom of speech and assembly. on the police side they are wanting to be prepared and the governor has said time and again we're going make sure that the police are prepared to deal with whatever happens when that grand jury decision comes down. now, we do know from the prosecuting attorney's office that the grand jury is expected any time now, because they have been telling us time and again that it would happen sometime between mid-november and late november. we're already at mid-november. and so there's a lot of folks who are looking at the date and saying it's got to happen very soon. >> yes. so much anticipation for that. thank you. and another breaking news story we're following, two cases cnn brought to you on cnn's "the hunt." two people police were searching
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for have bern found. that's ahead. and peter kassig wanted to help people in the middle east. instead he ended up dying there. the latest victim of isis. in just a few minutes we'll hear his family talk about what he meant to them. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company.
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breaking news just into cnn. a mother wanted by marshals for ten years has surrendered in new hampshire. she was profiled on john walsh's
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show "the hunt." officials have been looking for her since she took her 8-year-old daughter. she accused her ex-husband of touching their daughter. when police investigated they decided not to charge father and investigated kelly instead for her bizarre behavior. kelly fled with the girl. marshals say kelly turned herself in in the town of lancaster today. it's not clear where her daughter is. she's now an adult. her lawyer says she wants to face a jury. the u.s. marshal joins us now to talk about this. first off, if you would, tell us what happened today. >> well, pam, what happened today was genevieve kelly turned herself opinion. >> she was profiled on john walsh's show "the hunt." did that play a role after so
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many years of being on the run? >> we don't have any hard facts on that but we do believe it played a role in that when it was aired. soon after that her attorney stepped up some communications to the county attorney and, you know, wanted to develop some sort of agreement ordeal on turning herself in. >> do we know how her daughter is doing because of course when she first allegedly kidnapped her daughter she was 8 years old at the time. do we know how she's doing now? >> that's actually some of the information we're trying to get at this point in time. she has an attorney and exercising herring right to remain silent. from what i understand the only thing she's said so far is that mary is now 18 and is an adult and she's safe and that's all we've been able to get so far. >> did the attorney give any more indication of why now, why
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she's surrendering now. as you mentioned earlier it's believe that "the hunt" did play a role. did you hear anything else of why now? >> no nothing else. just a lot of speculation. some investigators on why she would turn herself in after this period of time. we hope her daughter is doing okay. deputy u.s. marshal jamie barry thank you for bringing that to us. we'll be right back with more news right after this break. [ male announcer ] some come here
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>> any second now the heartbroken parents of peter kassig are about to speak. kassig is the former army ranger and third american to be behead by isis. joining me now to discuss this is international correspondent alexander field who was at this press conference in indianapolis and jim sciutto cnn chief national security correspondent and robert baer security analyst. we're waiting to hear from peter kassig's family. they have been outspoken about this since their son has been kidnapped. tell bus that. >> this is a family. it's remarkable. some other families have had to go through this. james foley's family as well showing enormous courage throughout even as they suffer what can only be described as a
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father, i feel this, the worst fate to lose a child and in such gruesome circumstances that you know to be painful and torturing and yet to maintain your poise throughout and the kassig family has done that like the foley family has done before them. i've been bowled over by that and i'm sure we'll hear sadness and goodness. they deserve it. but some of that remarkable strength. >> bob, it's really interesting because all the families -- here they are walking up to the podi podium. >> good afternoon. greater love hath no man than this than to lay down his life for another. a while ago we were informed that our beloved son no longer walks this earth. our hearts feel heavy, are held up by the love and support that has poured into our lives these
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last few days. >> his teacher, the mother of some of his friends wrote before his slaying, if a person can be both a realist and an idealist then that's peter. peter has earned the right to be both. in 26 years he has witnessed and experienced firsthand more of the harsh realities of life than most of us can imagine. but rather than letting the darkness overwhelm him he has chosen to believe in the good, in himself and in others. peter's life has heed that he has been right all along. one person makes a difference. our hearts are battered. but they will mend. the world is broken but it will be healed in the end. and goodwill prevail as the one god of many names will prevail.
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>> please pray for pete if that's how you know him at sunset this evening. pray also for all people in syria, in iraq and around the world that are held against their will. and lastly, please allow our small family the time and privacy to mourn, cry and, yes, forgive and begin to heal. thank you very much. >> there we just heard from the parents of peter kassig, the latest american to be beheaded by isis. they say our hearts are battered, but they will mend. they also said that peter was both an idealist and realist and it's interesting they referred to him, their first rear fence to him as abdul rackman, his muslim name that he chose for
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himself after he converted to islam. jim, i'll start with you. what do you takeaway. >> that strength. before they spoke our hearts are battered but they will mend, goodwill prevail, asking for privacy but showing enormous strength here. on what can only be described as the worse day for a parent possible to have not only the death of a child but in the worst circumstances in broadcast for the world to see. i can only imagine that as a father and to see that strength there but also i think as you say speaking about how he dedicated his life because he's truly a remarkable man. he served as a soldier in iraq and then through a feat of conscience goes back to another war zone alone to serve as a humanitarian worker in effect and knowing frankly that as a former soldier that if he were to be taken he would be treated
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differently. you know, any american there, of course, will be abused but a soldier in particular. so, truly brave individual and just such a sad day for his parents. >> it absolutely is. you can't imagine what they are going through. damon you knew peter kassig personally and i'm sure a lot what you heard from his parents ring true from what you saw firsthand of peter. he chose to believe in good in himself and others. what else can you tell us about peter? >> it's not just that part of the statement, pam but also his parents desire alongside the fact that they are going through such inexplicable pain but their desire to draw the attention of pain of others. that's how they brought up peter, the young man that we all knew. he was someone who put others before himself. he's someone who was filled with this profound and almost desperate desire to not just say
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he wanted to help but go out and do something. i remember being absolutely taken back by this young man who at the time that we met him was just 24 years old, this was in 2012, and he was helping wounded syrians at a hospital in tripoli. but i was taken aback when a few months later when he told me hey remember i wanted to start a none profit, i've done that. he was already running humanitarian aid missions to syrian refugees in turkey and also inside syria and then began running those much needed medical missions where he was training ordinary civilians and first aid and this is very critical because a lot of the time first responders to the scenes of these attacks were civilians and delivering much need medical assistance as well. he really felt the pain of the syrian people and this isn't just something that was evident through the passion that he used when he spoke about what it was
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that he was witnessing but also evident in those that he met. look, he didn't speak a lot of arabic but he a compassion that transcended that language barrier, and one syrian activist who met him remembered how he genuinely felt sad during their time of sorrow. he felt joy during their times of joy. he was someone who, yes, knew the grave serious risks that he was under taking, going into syria especially during that last mission that he under took in 2013 when he was kidnapped. but he was someone who could not have lived with himself had he not gone in there during that trip. >> and we've heard his parents plead for help. they took to twitter. they talked about how and he was muslim convert and yet nothing worked here, bob. what do you think about this? what we've seen from the parents they really have been outspoken,
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we saw it from james foley's parents as well and i think a lot of people are confused because james foamy as well converted to muslim. isis killed him in such a brutal manner. >> exactly. this group is extremely vicious and they are defining muslims as they like. if you constroert islam you're a muslim. clearly they decided they didn't care and are going to interpret the koran the way they want to and this is wuchbt reasons why this movement at the end of the day is doomed because they are so violent, to vicious and i think we'll see muslims turn. this kid was clearly courageous having been a ranger, having all this stuff up on facebook. he knew when he was captured they would get into his cell phones and digital records. it just didn't matter. the parties pleas went unheard. this defines this movement as it
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has to be suppressed. >> we're just learning there's two remaining hostages held by isis a british journalist that appeared in a number of of isis produced videos and a female aid worker. unlike some of the previous beheadings videos we've seen there was no one at the end of this video with peter kassig. what does that tell you? >> i think this group is just so into her rents. they hoped these executions would get them something politically drawn supporters. even at this point they understand this violence is just gratuitous. i would be surprised if they execute the american woman but on the other hand i wouldn't put it past them. >> and, jim, do we know anything about u.s. efforts? we know there was a rescue mission for james foley which obviously didn't work out. do we know anything about rescue efforts for peter kassig and now
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the remaining hostage. >> we don't know. the battlefield has changed. the opportunity they had or thought they had with james foley earlier this year based on the best intelligence at the time and it turn out when they got there to a location they believed that he and other hostages were at they were no longer there. u.s. intelligence on the ground in syria has never been great in part because the u.s. hasn't been present there. now present in the air over syria and with some continuing cia aid programs and training programs for certain rebel groups so arguably that intelligence getting better but we don't know if it's gotten to the point where they can pinpoint where other hostages are. you have to expect this group knowing the value of them, sick value, frankly how they use it, knowing the value would move them around a lot to hold on to them. >> really a dire situation. i want to go back to you because i think it's important focus on peter the kind of man that he
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was. was there anything else his parents said that really struck you, if could you just give us a glimpse of who he was and how he the change of heart going from a soldier to then becoming a humanitarian aid worker? >> look, pam, if we go beyond the statement they made today but look at everything that's come out publicly about him since his captivity and even before that, that was young man who was not afraid to talk about his own personal, very emotional journey. he started out as an army ranger. he was honorably discharged for medical reasons. he went back to the united states. was kind of trying to figure out where he was going to fit in, howers going to fit in, and then having realized his experiences overseas, he didn't really fit in the u.s. any more. he went on the get training as an emt. he had a need to do something. he wanted to help humanity. he didn't necessarily know how.
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then came the war in syria and all of the reports about wounded syrians showing up in lebanon, desperately needing medical help and he said to him semblgs i'm an emt, i can do something so he literally packed a bag full of whatever medical supplies he could collect, and came to lebanon and began working in that hospital. it's an astonishing story. he didn't speak a word of arabic at the time. didn't know anybody in lebanon per se and yet managed to from the moment he arrived in country create bonds with individuals that then drove that desire that he had to want to do even more because he simply realize that he could even as a single individual then he went on -- he went on to establish sara the special emergency response and assistance and that was his nonprofit that was delivering humanitarian aid, delivering medical missions and that ultimately gave him his sense of
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purpose. despite all of the horrible situations he was exposed, to despite all of the evil he saw. really what one human being can do to another and the violence he saw firsthand in syria. he continued to believe in the need to do something about it. the thing that his parents referenced as well that good would ultimately prevail and that's who peter of. that's why again i will say at this point in time i do genuinely believe he's someone who would not want the focus on him. he would want the focus to be on syria and he would want people to try to think about what is it they can do as individuals no matter who they are about trying to help alleviate the suffering of the syrian people. >> i want to go now to alexander field, she's actually in the room where the press conference with peter kassig's family was. alexandra, what can you tell us? >> reporter: you heard people talking about peter kassig's
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koujness and we saw courage from his parents. they came out here and they showed incredible grace and composure in the moment they planned and prepared for. they were releasing statements up to this point when the u.s. government confirmed it was peter kassig in the video. they decided to make themselves available to the press and cameras. they held this at their church here in indianapolis. we know they were meeting privately with 2005 their pastors before they came out here. we were actually given a copy of the message and notes they would read. they do stick to the script. they were able to speak in clear voices and they had a couple of point that they truly wanted to communicate. obviously they are very hurt right now at the loss of their son. again, continuing to turn this forward not only to talk about peter's work but to talk about the importance of that work and importance of people continuing to do that work. i was really struck by them
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saying at sunset tonight they not only want to remember their son but to pray for elm in sir area iraq, people held against their will around the world and have the opportunity here in indianapolis to talk to people and try to understand why this young man who grew up here, who was on the cross country team at north central high school would have this journey in life, would feel his calling was in syria. had a conversation with his adviser and political science professor at butler university. she told me he was an engaged and good stunt but most struck by the time they spent together in her office when he talked his need to do more, his compulsion to serve and give back. what we heard from his parents speak of what must have been an incredible and painful moment and wanting to come out and communicate that to the world. >> you can't even imagine what
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they've been through and just the journey much getting here. they were pillars of strength today. alexandra field, thank you all for coming on the talk with us. we appreciate it. we'll be right back. ♪ they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ho, ho, ho, ho] lease the 2015 ml350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer.
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more now on our breaking news, the governor of missouri activating the national guard ahead of the grand jury decision in ferguson and as the nation discusses the relationship between police in their communities tomorrow night cnn present as special documentary
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from the black in america series called soledad o'brien takes an in-depth look at aggressive policing tactics. >> made it quite clear that i'm interested in problem resolution, not the numbers game. >> reporter: the way that policing plays out on the streets is increasingly being captured on cell phone cameras. >> i've grown to be very secretively record them because i was at my grandmother's house getting ready to go to the gym and my ride is on the way, coming around the corner. we're standing outside but underneath -- >> say that again? say that again? >> i'm going to come outside [ inaudible ] -- >> why are you talking to me like -- huh?
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>> [ inaudible ]. >> i can't hear you. >> i said i'm going to handcuff you. >> get inside right now. >> i'm just trying to see if my ride is coming. >> go inside right now. go inside. >> go up the stairs right now. >> since when has it become illegal to wait for a ride? >> reporter: but commissioner bratton hasn't abandoned the policing theory he adopted in the 1990s called "broken windows." it proposes that small crimes like a broken window encourage further neglect or more serious crimes. do you think that going after these small offenses does not help bring down crime? >> i actually believe in the theory of broken windows. but when it hurts the people
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it's trying to protect -- >> starfish media ceo soledad o'brien joins me now. even police officers themselves -- >> the story is very complex. what we wanted to do in this documentary was to try to figure out, what is that line between keeping communities safe, especially communities that are high-crime communities where, by the way, even people in those communities want to be safe but also not trampling on people's civil rights, or profile a young man who tells us he's been stopped at least 100 times in his own community, often right near his college. so his professor see him being stopped by the police, his classmates do as well. we were interested in how the police officers feel about what
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they're september out to do. the young moms in the community, get a sense what's happened in these communities. what's happened in ferguson doesn't come out of nowhere. there is a conflict between a community and the police department. and this is not something that is -- it's been percolating certainly in ferguson for quite a while. >> didn't just come out of nowhere. you've been working on this documentary for quite some time before ferguson. but it's obviously just bubbling to the top here with what we saw there. i'm wondering, what did you take away after sort of going on this journey, talking to police officers -- >> it's so unfortunate that you have people who are in conflict when actually ultimately most good people want the community to be safe. police need the community to give them information on the ground about what's happening. on both sides, alienating the community is a bad idea. alienating the police is a bad
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idea. it's a lose-lose. the people in ferguson aren't safer when they hate the police and the police hate them back. we have to figure out our way through this where the police can feel like they're serving a community that appreciates them and the people feel like the police respect them as well. >> let's talk about stop-and-frisk, commissioner william bratton is back in charge of the department. that didn't sit too well with many new yorkers -- >> i think they were concerned the architecture of stop-and-frisk was brought back under the new mayor in new york city. we talked to bill bratton a lot in this documentary. i think he's very interested in trying to figure out how to correct some of the overreaching that happened during stop-and-frisk. we saw fewer stop-and-frisks here in new york. but ask people on the ground and the community and they don't see the big change.
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they still feel like they are criminals in their own community or perceived to be. for the young man, by the way, who was stopped 100 times, you sort of imagine it wherever it is you live. imagine if they did it the first time, you would show him. the fifth time, you'd be a little annoyed. the tenth time, you'd be mad. that wouldn't help anybody down the road. >> and certainly an interesting debate and both sides want the solution. it's just figuring out what that solution is. soledad, thank you for bringing this to us. soledad's new documentary "black in america, black & blue" premieres tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern time on cnn. up next, a shocking end for a fugitive featured on cnn. the second big catch reported today. details on that in just a moment. you're driving along,
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we have some breaking news now. a dog has made a gruesome discovery in a field in austin, texas. it's a skull belonging to one of the most wanted sex offenders in america. kevin patrick stoser was profiled right here on cnn in the first season of "the hunt" with john walsh. and u.s. marshals moments ago gave credit to this episode. >> cnn "the hunt," a program -- the inaugural program was this season. producers from "the hunt" contacted us and requested if kevin stoser could be profiled in their inaugural season. they did present him in the second episode, again, garnering extensive national and international coverage. >> stoser reportedly had sex with underage girls while stationed in fort hood in 2002.
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he pleaded guilty to child pornography and raping a woman but he escaped from a halfway house in october 2013. the cause of his death is unknown. "the lead" with my friend, jake tapper, starts right now. thanks for watching. experts now searching for new clues in the latest atrocity by isis. i am jake tapper. and this is "the lead." the world lead, jihadi john still shouting his twisted ideology as another american, peter kassig, is beheaded by terrorists. and isis vows to make western streets run red with blood. the sports lead, as the drug enforcement agency blitzes nfl locker rooms looking for evidence of prescription drug abuse, we ask whether the justice system allows professional athletes to play by their own rules. one woman says yes and she has the bruises from her nfl-playing