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quick look at the protesters who have been outside the barclays center. i'm told they've gone into the atlantic terminal mall nearby in brooklyn. looks like at least several dozen there. i'm not sure in total what the numbers are. that does it for us. we'll see again 11:00 p.m. eastern. another ac 360. "a legend under fire." i'm don lemon. this is our cnn special, "the cosby show: a legend under fire." generations grew up with bill cosby, haddy was america's dad, revered by black and white. how do you go from being one of the most respected and loved people in the country to this? tonight i'm going to talk to five women who accuse cosby of assaulting them. those women are all face-to-face for the first time. i'll also talk to janice dickinson, outraged after what
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she alleges cosby did to her more than 30 years ago. but let's begin with the story behind the scandal and why it's coming to light now. cnn's jean casarez has that. >> the fall from grace of a living american legend 50 years in the making. bill cosby's alleged questionable behavior had gone largely unnoticed for decades, but why does it seem to have hit center stage only now? this round started off, believe it or not, as a joke. back on october 16th, comedian hannibal burress says something that goes viral. >> i have a successful sitcom. that's great, bill cosby. >> later the twitter paged asks him to meme cosby. that begins a flood of allegations from women who say they were sexually assaulted by
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cosby. many claim they were drugged. the first to come forward publicly, barbara bowman. >> i never saw any drugs, but i would wake up completely confused, half dressed and knowing that my body had been touched the without my permission. >> also speaking out, joan tarshis. >> we went up to his bungalow afterwards. he made me a drink. very shortly after that, i just -- i passed out. i woke up or came to very groggily with him removing my underwear. >> reporter: tarshis says in 1969 she voluntarily saw cosby again when he invited her to a performance. after accepting drinks at his hotel and in a limo. she said she woke up the next morning with him in his bed. ironically, cosby released a comedy album that same year entitled "it's true it's true" talking about doctoring drinks.
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>> you know anything about spanish fly. no, tell me about it. well, there's this girl crazy mary. you put some in her drink and she's blah, blah. >> reporter: after temple university employee andrea constan said that after cosby drugged and molested her, the local district attorney at the time bruce castor did not bring charges. years later he explains his decision. constan waiting for a year to go to authorities hurt her case against cosby. >> because of the delay, i couldn't check her blood to see if there was any metabolites of that drug in her. it made the case very difficult. >> reporter: in 2005 cosby spoke out about the allegations for first time telling "the national enquirer," i'm not going to give in to people who try to exploit me because of my celebrity status. soon after constan responds to a civil suit alleging battery, assault and defamation of her
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character. constan and cosby settle out of court for an undisclosed sum the following year. also in 2005 tamara green on the "today" show with a similar story. >> he went from helping me to groping me, touching me, handling me and taking off my clothes. >> reporter: the latest salvo, a lawsuit filed last week by a woman who claims bill cosby sexually assaulted her in 1974 when she was 15. in court filings, cosby calls those claims absolutely false. accusing the woman of extortion. cosby's attorney says the woman made threat about penalties coupled with ever increasing demands for a six-figure payday to keep quiet about her long since expired claims. other stories shared in small circles but getting little attention. >> people did not want to believe our story.
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>> i finally said, i can't live in fear for the rest of my life. >> reporter: the combination of comedian burress' joke and the twitter captions bring new accusers forward. some who shared graphic details. >> i remember more specifically waking up and that he -- there was a lot of pain in -- downstairs. there was semen all over me and that my pajama bottoms were off and the top was open. >> he had his hand on the back of my head and he was trying to push it towards his erect penis. >> cosby's attorneys deny many of the allegations and call dickinson a liar. the accusers may not have been the only ones reluctant to talk about it. magazine and television journalist mark whitaker who used to work for cnn, in his newly released authorized biography of bill cosby doesn't touch the topic.
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>> he's been a pioneer in so many areas. the cosby show was so big that people forget all the other ways in which he, you know, advanced entertainment. >> reporter: whitaker isn't alone. bob huber, writer for philadelphia magazine admits in his 2006 profile of cosby, he didn't question the star about accusations. >> you were doing this big profile. you got invited to spend time with cosby, but you weren't allowed to ask him questions? >> right. >> reporter: in a recent column "new york times" columnist david carr criticizes whitaker but also calls himself an enabler in not reporting misdeeds by cosby. those in the know also included me. whitaker also agrees with carr tweeting, david, you were right. i was wrong not to deal with the sexual assault charges against cosby and pursue them more aggressively. cnn has obtained a comment by
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cosby. in this deposition, bill cosby says a media outlet suppressed another woman's story at his request. cosby was asked, what is your understanding of the agreement that you had with "the national enquirer" concerning your exclusive interview? i would give them an exclusive story, my words. what would they give you in return? they would not print the story of -- print beth's story. after cosby issued his one and only interview on the tamara green's accusations. "the national enquirer" more than any other publication was unflinching in our aggressive coverage of allegations against mr. cosby beginning in 2000 when
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everyone else avoided the story. but all of the stories and the recent decision by cosby to leave the board of trustees of his beloved temple university has many suggesting it is past time for cosby himself to address this scandal. jean casarez, cnn, new york. >> joining me now, scott simon, host of npr's "weekend edition" saturday he interviewed cosbyby just last month. you had him on your radio show to talk to him about your art collection along with his wife. you asked him about the resurfacing allegations. let's listen so what he had to say, then we'll talk. >> this question give meese no pleasure, mr. cosby, but there have been serious allegations raised about you in recent days. you're shaking your head no. i'm in the news business. i have to ask the question. do you have any response to those charges? shaking your head no. >> that was a radio interview,
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but you were there to see his reaction and the reaction of his wife. what was it like? >> as soon as i began to say this question gives me no pleasure, he began to shake his head and even go like this. and even smile. we can call it a theatrical performance smile. i did not look at mrs. cosby. the question was just for him so i looked straight aheadp. >> and you say it was -- >> a bad imitation of bill cosby, but as soon as i began to say, i looked at him, i said, mr. cosby, this question gives me no pleasure, and he went -- >> do you wish that you had pressed further? >> at the time i asked the question, the story was in a different stage of development, so there wasn't quite the rich level of detail and the number of accusers that i think we know about now. also because he began to shake his head and wave his finger, i felt for a radio audience, i had to begin to describe what he was doing and not persist in more detailed charges. you know, we're not prosecuting
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attorneys in this business, don. the best i think we can do is ask. usually i get, i hope, some attention for asking people questions that get them to talk and say something interesting. in this case we got a lot of attention for someone who said nothing. >> in tonight's show viewers are going to hear from six cosby accusers. he's denied their allegations all along including janice dickinson's story and cosby's attorney martin singer calls her story a lie flat out and says it contradicts her own autobiography back in 2002 in an interview she did with "the new york observer." do you remember that interview? >> i don't remember the interview from "the new york observer" no. >> if he speaks out, what should he or could he say? what does he have to say here. >> he has david brokaw, a legendary communications man who can tell him what to say or not. i think in fact the studied response, the silence he gave us
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might have been the product of some preparation. noting that i have no expertise to offer, i'm not sure there's much of anything he could say now. he's had the opportunity to say in his own voice it's not true and he's chosen not to say. >> what about camille? >> she, if you ever have the pleasure of meeting her, and she is the nicest, warmest, most interesting person. you know, i don't want to say anything more than that. it was an honor to meet her. >> why do you think these decades old allegations are so fascinating to the people at home and just about everyone? >> bill cosby is still among many people a very beloved figure. this is a terrible turn of events for people who grew up watching dr. huxtable or "i spy" before that and the high school coach and the wonderful comedy albums he did, for fat albert. this is a very hard thing to take. it must be said as i note that,
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at least i know i've gotten a little harder over the weeks since our interview. we must remember that there's the testimony in their own voice of a lot of women who attest to being caused a lot of pain. >> it was tough as we were listening to jean casarez's story there and you can hear the language coming to women. i looked at you and said it's hard to believe we're talking about bill cosby, dr. huxtable, when we hear things like that. do you think america, people don't want to believe this iconic dad is a sexual predator? >> sure. and when i asked the question, hoping he would say not true. but he doesn't have to be and no one can expect him to be dr. huxtable. no one's that good. no father is that good. i think we're talking about someone, if the allegations are true, who violated the norms of human decency, who was brutal towards a great number of women over a long period of time. >> he still has a lot of supporters. >> yes. >> if you look around at the reaction, a lot of people are
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saying these women, why would they come -- >> and he's never been convicted in court. when i listen to the piece you just ran, explains pretty well why nothing has ever come to court. but he's never been charged much less convicted of anything. >> so the public in general, especially americans have very short attention spans and memories, something happens and we move on to the next thing. do you think his legacy is forever tarnished. can he ever bounce back from this particular scandal? >> i think it becomes the second part of the first sentence of his obituary. and you know, he's 78. i'm not sure he has the time or energy to bounce back. show business scandals, you know, you wait a few years and something else comes along and people talk about the new fill in the blank. and i'm not sure that's there. it's difficult just speaking personally, it's difficult for him to make me laugh right now. >> mike whitaker, the authorized biography, very thick book.
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he came on just before the scandal started making headlines. those allegations weren't in the headline. they were back in 2005 which is the last time they surfaced. he didn't talk about it, he didn't write about it in the book, are you disappointed about that? >> i know mike whitaker, the reason i didn't interview him about the book is i thumbed through it and made a point of conceding he went into not going into it and thought it was too big a lapse. but if i was doing a big book like that, who knows what sort of editorial decision i would have made. but i just felt it was not a good book to make. >> in order to write a book like that of someone's autobiography if you're doing that sort of research and you don't ask about it, there must be some agreement there that you won't do it in order to gain access? >> i don't know that, but all i can say is i thumbed through the book and said this is something i don't want to do. >> should he meet with these women? >> that wo be a painful
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exhibitionist meeting. i'm not sure. i would say they get to make the call on that. i suppose it might be nice for them to offer, but i don't know. >> these women are facing such scrutiny. do you think it's fair? >> i guess if you're going to come forward and make these very serious, if i can even say grave charges about someone, you have to be prepared for the scrutiny. and to be fair to the women, a number of them tried to be heard years before. a lot made very practical decisions based on what they say that they didn't two past a certain point past the charges, but i guess in our system we have to be fair. when i say our system, our legal system than our publicity system. >> stand by. i should say we asked bill cosby's attorney martin singer for a response to our special tonight. we did not get a response. bill cosby has an open invitation to come on cnn and talk about his side of the
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welcome back, everyone. i'm don lemon. and this is our special "the cosby show: a legend under fire." more and more women have come forward with shocking accusations of what they say bill cosby did to them. a group of these women are here sharing their stories. my colleague is here with me. she's interviewed many of the
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accusers, women in the room, joan tarshis, patty maston, p. squlchlt as she likes to be called, and we didn't put the monitors on because i expected you would have the reaction that you did when we put the pictures of him up and that was. >> revulsion. >> you try never to see bill cosby's pictures. >> i sort of go like this. i shut down my peripheral vision. >> you can't look at him, can you, barbara? >> well, we were comparing which pictures sparks that scratchy awful feeling. >> and which one does? >> for me? >> yeah. >> that one. >> why? >> because that was the face that you saw. that was the age. >> i saw the young one over there. >> me, too.
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>> because it happened when -- >> we both were in the '60s. >> '69 both of us. >> '65 for me. >> what's going on? >> me? >> yeah. >> i can't look at him. 44 years when his picture went across the screen, when it was in a magazine or newspaper or i heard his name mentioned i had to walk away, change the channel. >> i couldn't watch "the cosby show." >> makes my stomach twist. >> makes me sick to my stomach just to look at him. sick to my stomach. he's pretty much the world's greatest actor because he fooled a lot of people, fooled a lot of peop people. >> what is it like to meet each other and to have -- is there power in the number here? >> oh, it's unbelievable to be in the presence of these great women. it's a sisterhood.
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it really is. you know, the glue that bonds us might be morbid and sad and awful, but but it's a strong -- it's power and i feel really protective of these women. >> in the latest round of accusations, barbara, you were the person who published a piece in "the washington post" and you came forward first. are you surprised at the basic tidal wave that more than a dozen women followed you? >> yes, more and more come. >> you think so? >> oh, yes. >> oh, yes. >> i know. >> i want to ask p.j. about that because i know you have strong feelings. what makes you think there are other women? >> because i personally know former bunnies that are frightened, shamed and scared to come forward, and i know another playmate who he came on to at the breakfast table at the
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mansion and she put him off and he just looked around at the other women and said, nothing but [ bleep ]. he just looked at them disdainfully. and she, after i came out, i started getting all of these private messages on facebook from different people who were coming out to me. p.j. was one of them. >> you both shared the playboy bunny connection. >> did you ever tell hugh hefner? >> no. >> i told my immediate boss after it happened. her reply to me was do you realize this is hefner's best friend? nobody's going to believe you. shut your mouth. that was what i was told by corporate. to keep my mouth closed. >> and so many of you did for quite a long time. alisyn and i want to ask you guys something. a show of hands. put your hands up if this is a
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true story. how many of you were lured by bill cos bby by work that he sa it would help your career. >> three of you. >> he didn't promise to help my career, but one of the girls who was one of the original chocolate bunnies in my bunny trainer told me -- introduced me because my son had just died and i was beginning to run out of money and i'm an actor. and she said maybe he can get you a job. he played the playboy club circuit. so she set up an appointment with him on his trailer on the lot. and she said, and take a picture of your little boy, you know. and she was actually his godmother. >> how many of you were drugged? allegedly. all of you? >> yes. >> and that seems to have been from the women that we've spoken to, his m.o. there are allegations that he would drug women. >> yes. >> right. >> who of you remembers being
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drugged? tell me. >> well, i remember both times. i remember having one bloody mary topped with beer. as i said, he called it a red eye. and i woke up -- i don't know how long later with him taking off my clothes you don't pass out from one drink. >> you said you don't watch "the cosby show." is it something you think of every day? >> i'll tell you what it is, don, it's the subliminal sound track. i don't think about my son dying 44 years ago every day, but it's always there under the surface. >> show of hands. how many of you told someone about this when it happened? >> and you know, did people believe you? no? >> for me, i was in a relationship, a loving relationship with a very attractive white man. and i told him, and he has since
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e-mailed me back. he said that i remember you telling me about that and i've given that e-mail to cnn. >> just a show of hands. >> in a really ineffective ineffectual childish way two days -- >> he wouldn't hear of it. there was absolutely no questioning him. he had ultimate authority and the ability to twist the circumstances around to make it our problem and our fault for even going down that road. >> on friday, hugh hefner issued a statement reading, quote, bill cosby has been a good friend for many years and the mere thought of these allegations is truly saddening. i would never tolerate this kind of behavior, regardless of who was involved. when we come back, more with the
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women who are accusing bill cosby. and later janice dickinson on what she claims cosby did to her 30 years ago when she was a young supermodel.
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welcome back to our special here. it's "the cosby show: a legend under fire." i'm don lemon, allison cammer ot ta. women are speaking out about bill cosby and what she say he did to him. joan tarshis, barbara bowman,
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kristina ruehli, patti masten, and victoria valentino. >> when i heard about this 15-year-old girl being drugged and raped by him at hefner's mansion, all bets were off for me. that was a child. that was a little girl. as far as i'm concerned, i'm done. >> through his attorney, bill cosby refutes that story and he says that she's trying to extort money from him? >> and there's no evidence -- >> he says that about every single story that's come out. that's not a surprise to any one of us. >> not one of us. >> how many of you, show of hands, have tried to get money out of bill cosby? none of you. how many of you would ever take money from bill cosby? >> interesting. >> people claim that they're in it for money. they've never tried to get money from bill cosby. >> he gave me 20 bucks to call a cab for me and gave me 20 bucks
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for the cab. >> to me, it would be a form of contempt from him. >> mm-hmm. >> and this isn't about -- it's not about sex. it's about power. >> yes. >> he's a predator. he goes after women. and he's not even a man. if you have to drug a woman to have sex with her, that's not even a man. he's a coward. he's a despicable coward. >> look, any rock star, anybody who is as wealthy and famous as he is, there are a million groupies that would throw themselves at his feet. the fact that he has to drug them and have them unconscious while he's do iing them and thi is a serial -- this is a pattern which speaks to his patho psychologist. he's a sociopath, he's a narcissist of the tallest order and narcissistic personality disorder lacks empathy, lacks personal insight and lacks
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conscien conscience. >> and no responsibility. >> he's a serial rapist. >> he is a serial rapist. >> no question. >> he has the same m.o. with all of us. he identifies a vulnerable victim. he then gets them alone or lures them into a place sometimes where other people are in proximity. he drugs them, he does his thing with him -- them and then sometimes he waits for them to wake up so he can heap yet more contempt. >> he still has the -- >> that's a good point, don, because the man could not possibly be acting alone. what i mean by that is the man has power and wealth and fame and has many people an impenetrable circle, many layers
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of circles of people that are protecting him that's created this hermetically sealed bubble of protection. >> you think they know? >> the driver i'm sure -- >> they know. >> i know they know. >> i know four men that know. >> i know -- let me just say this. my -- i was besieged with phone calls, e-mails, texts, any social media from people that know things. >> yes. >> me too. >> do you hold them personally responsible? >> yes, i do. and i want to say this. that he manipulated those people in the same way that he manipulated us into silence. >> when you are talking about people around him, what about his wife? what do you -- >> well, they settled out of court and when they settled out of court, she must have known something was going on. >> you mean, the 2005 case and there were 13 jane does. you were one of them who came
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forward. so you think that alone she must know something. >> i would think that the man being as ill as i believe he is, i feel sorry for her. i don't know why she stayed in the marriage unless she was forced to out of fear. i feel sorry for his children. >> you believe she's a victim on some level? >> of course. >> and not only that, i think, too, that until everybody started coming out, each one of us thought it was just me. >> that's right. >> i never thought that. >> well, you thought you were alone. >> i saw the groundswell. >> absolutely, i had no idea this was a pattern of behavior and that there were other people. i thought i was just some kind of stupid vulnerable girl. >> you didn't think -- >> no, i knew the night -- the first time that this was going on, i knew that there were probably hundreds of women that he had already done this to and there would be hundreds more.
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it was just intuitively, i felt that. >> bill cosby's wife camille has not commented publicly since these latest accusations came to light. but back in 1997 she said all old personal negative issues between bill and me were resolved years ago. we're united as a couple. more with bill cosby's accusers. what these five women think should happen to him now.
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welcome back to our special "the cosby show -- a legend under fire." i'm don lemon. >> ei'm alisyn camerota. >> we're speaking to five women who are all speaking out about bill cosby. >> what do you want to see happen to him. >> i want his emmys taken away from him. >> you want those awards taken away? >> absolutely. have those taken away from him. he's a predator. the sad thing to me is he's victimized his four daughters because now have to hear about their daddies and those poor daughters and poor camille. >> i want to see temple university if that's the university that gave him his honorary ph.d. i think he should be stripped of it. >> absolutely. >> the people who have to work
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hard for it and earn it deserve it. he, under these circumstances, certainly does not deserve it. >> oh, he insists you call him dr. cosby. >> absolutely. >> well, there has to be -- this has to be a revolution. this has to change the fabric of this culture. we have a responsibility to -- for public awareness and to educate through action and support and to reach out to all the other women who are closely related to this and beyond. >> what i want to happen to bill cosby is happening. >> and what is that? >> for him to lose face with the public. i had said that i lost my anger towards the man and the resentment towards the man, but i wonder if that's really because of what's happening to him now. because this is what i dreamt -- this is what i dreamt of for years. >> karma. they call that karma.
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>> that's right. >> we're being restored. lives are being restored. >> we're being validated for the first time we're validated. >> that's the most important thing, because we've been invalidated and not just we, but other women who have been -- and men who have been victims of rape. nobody would believe it. we would be invalidated, we would be demeaned and degraded in addition to what happened to us. >> we have the power now. >> that's right. >> it was rape is about power. and there's another thing. it's not just that he has betrayed us. we, none of us, had any reason to distrust him. but there are a lot of people, if you read the comments out there who said, oh, this couldn't be true. and some celebrities have come forward to stand up for him. >> so there's whoopi goldberg and a singer jill scott. he tweeted them, i think we have
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the tweet where he tweeted thank you for your support. >> this is the first thing he said. he's breaking his silence. >> one of the alleged victims who was black said it was particularly hard for her because she's such a symbol for the black community. he broke boundaries. he broke the ceiling and that made it particularly painful. >> very good question. >> you want to talk about that? >> on the subject of betrayal. he has not just betrayed us. he has betrayed -- >> the black community. >> every person of color. >> anyone. >> the breakthrough that he supposedly made -- >> that's right. >> when he -- when what happened to me happened, he was in "i spy." nobody believed he was a spy, but in "the cosby show" -- >> everybody think he's dr. huxtable. >> everybody believes that he's basically a fake and pretender and behind that mask is a sociopath. >> bill cosby received an honorary degree from temple university in 1991. he earned his doctorate in
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education in 1977 from the university of massachusetts amherst. on november 26th a spokesman for umass issued a statement, bill cosby has agreed to resign as an honorary co-chair of the umass yam hearse capital campaign. he issued a statement resigning from the board of trustees. it reads, i'veless been proud of my association with temple university. i have always wanted to do what would be in the best interests of the university and its students. as a result i have tendered my resignation from the temple university board of trustees. the university statement that same day reads the board of trustees accepts dr. cosby's resignation from the board and thanks him for his service to the university. when we come back, whether they think bill cosby should speak out now. get to t-mobile and knock out your gift list.
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welcome back to our cnn special "the cosby show -- a legend under fire." one of the most powerful moments in our conversation came when i asked the five women who ray
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kuzs cosby of sexual abuse whether they think cosby should speak out now. listen. do you think he should say something, yes, no or you don't care? >> i don't care. >> yes. >> as long as it's long and painful. >> mm-hmm. >> and i think that he never cared what happened to us. >> we suffered hundreds -- collectively hundreds of years of horrible, intestinal, emotional strife because of what this man put all of us through. >> that's right. >> and the hundreds that haven't come forward yet. i want him to suffer, suffer like we've all suffered all these years. you can ask any of these women how are your relationships? how are your marriages? how are your jobs? how was your psyche? >> how are your dreams? >> how are your dreams? >> i'm having nightmares. i've been waking up at 3:00 in the morning, 4:00 in the morning
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having nightmares thinking bad things are going to happen. >> we also just want to say that through his attorney, he has said this didn't happen. these are all implausible. >> so we're all liars. we're all liars. >> he took advantage of my grief over my little boy drowning to get to my girlfriend, my roommate, because he had a thing for her. >> he's a predator. >> you just mentioned your son. when he lost his son. did you think about him? >> oh, believe me. when i heard that, i felt terrible for his wife. i of course felt terrible for his child, who was an adult. but man, i have to tell you, i went, karma. >> i did too. >> and i wondered every minute, did he ever think of me and my child and what it meant for me to lose my only child and for him to do that to me within four
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months of my child drowning, my 6-year-old biracial child? >> nancy grace said something really interesting. she said, are all of these women lying and one person telling the truth or is one person lying and all of these women telling the truth? >> interesting. >> i think it's remarkable that first of all we're very, very grateful to be here and to be heard and to watch the masses finally listening. >> you're also starting an important conversation. >> yes. >> you're breaking boundaries. i really think that. >> yes, we are. and it's so important. and as happy as we are to be here, it's very sad. >> that there's a reason to be here. >> we have to keep talking and explaining why. and this shift in culture and shift in education for younger people and teaching what to look
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out for as well as embracing the victims in the world who have no voice. i hope that we are creating a new platform for those people to say i'm not alone and i don't need to be alone anymore. it wasn't my fault. >> and you know, with me i escaped him. and i'm comfortably retired, with eight grandchildren, and my life is as happy as anyone's life could be. but this is important. there's a lot of things to be said about power and the abuse of it. distrust and betrayal. i didn't need to do this for any reason whatsoever except to support and encourage others. >> we thank you all for your voice and for sharing your very personal story with us. and we wish you all the best of luck. >> thank you. >> thank you, alisyn.
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>> thank you very much. >> coming up, another woman who accuses bill cosby, janice dickinson, alleges cosby raped her more than 30 years ago. she tells her emotional story when we come back.
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welcome back to our special, "the cosby show: a 4re7b8gd
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under fire." i'm don lemon and i'm joined now by janice dickinson. she made headlines when she accused bill cosby of raping her in 1982 when she was a young supermodel. janice, thank you for joining us. how are you doing? >> you know, don, i am janice. i'm doing okay, don. and i'm so grateful to those women that just came out and told their stories. because it vindicates me. and to hear the post-traumatic stress that they've been through and all of your pertinent questions that really are direct about these issues. four women. not just these women that have been raped by a predator but women all over the world. and bravo to those women, thank you. >> i said to them that it felt like -- it was very heavy in here. and we made -- they made mention of that. it felt like therapy for them, but they said it also felt like
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it was therapy not only for women but for the country. >> it's therapy for women and men that have had their innocence robbed. what happened to me was first i had denial. oh, no, this couldn't have happened to me. and i'm going to tell you something. i knew that in my heart of hearts that there would be something called victim shaming. you know, i know that if i told my story i'd be victim shamed. just like i'm starting -- just like i'm getting victim shamed by a lot of people in the community. >> what can be done to stop this, janice? >> come out and tell the truth, bill cosby. tell the truth, you. you're not even a monster. you're a despicable rapist. you're a despicable cheater. i feel sorry for your family. i feel sorry for the actors that
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are not receiving their residuals from "the cosby show." i feel sorry for them. i feel sorry for all the people that can't wrap their mind around it because it's such a horrible, toxic subject that i can speak only for me, that drove my behavior into post-traumatic stress. >> are you going to take legal action? are you contemplating that? >> i don't know yet. but i certainly am. you know what? he's going to get his. that's all i'm saying. he'll get his. i just want you all to know that. i'm not taking this sitting down. and i'm going to keep talking. i'll write my own book. and you'll read about what really happened. and i'm going to keep talking about this for women, for men's daughters, men and women's daughters. granddaughters, sisters, brothers, and anyone else that's been a victim. been a victim. especially from bill cosby.
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. you just saw our cnn special "the cosby show: a legend under fire." we've got more to come. meanwhile, outrage spreading over police killing of african-american men and boys. from ferguson to the nypd chokehold case to the killing of a 12-year-old playing with an air gun in cleveland. protests boiling over again tonight. cnn's reporters are outside new york's barclays center. prince william and his wife courtside for the nets-cavaliers game. lebron james wore this. "i can't breathe" t-shirt during tonight's warm-up. we're going to ask tavis smiley what dr. martin luther king would have thought of what's happening in the streets tonight. also, the children of chokehold victim eric garner. why they say this is not about race and the parents of akai gurley, an unarmed man shot to death in an unlit stairwell by rookie new york city police

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