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hello. happy saturday. we made it to the weekend. thank you for joining me. in washington right now, we are following two major stories. thousands of people taking to the streets demanding an end to police brutality and racial profiling. also, on the right in the senate, a rare saturday session. they are depending a bill that would avoid a government shutdown. let's start with the people on the u.s. capitol building. people here of different ages, races, backgrounds.
they are coming together to condemn recent killings of unarmed black males. they are at the capital. i want to start with nick. what's your biggest take away? >> i think we hear this phrase that people want change, police accountability. i think so many people that we have spoken to have been negatively affected in some way by the police department. you hear that story, the common thread interwoven among demonstrators, people that have had bad run-ins with police. let's get a sense of what their issues are. we're on cnn. would you like to talk to us about what brought you out here today? >> yeah. we're here to support and show solidarity in the cases of police injustice and brutality across america. >> reporter: why is that so important to you? >> it has to end. it's oust control. i think that it's really important for us to come
together and start to push our congressmen and leadership to make a change and to start supporting. >> reporter: we heard the president assigned a task force, giving them 90 days to come back with recommendations, perhaps funding for body cameras. do you think that will make a difference? >> i think it's a step in the right direction. we need more than a body camera in order to see inroads. >> reporter: for you, you are obviously also passionate about this issue. what makes you so passionate? >> just try to defend our brotherhood. make sure that everybody here is right and everybody here is equal. we have to fight for each other. i will oechl picture somebody to come fight with me if i had the same issue. >> we heard earlier from a demonstrator saying justice is different for black people. what do you think of when you hear that statement?
>> he said that he had reason to say that. what we have right now, what we see right now today is just black people or people who don't feel that they are respected, don't feel they have the right -- the same right that all the people. we have to be able to denounce that and we have to -- it's important to make sure that this kind of issue doesn't happen anymore. >> reporter: thank you for taking the time with cnn. people have traveled here from far and wide. i spoke earlier to an 11-year-old girl wearing a shirt, i can't breathe. she said in her class they talked about the issues, they have had conversations with race relations. we have seen demonstrators from all ages. we should point out that by and large, we haven't seen anything, no tense moments. there haven't by any violation demonstrations. this is a pauseful group. they are here, they say for a
special moment in the nation's -- >> it's interesting when you hear from protesters and african-americans in the crowd. i think what's really clear to me is there are so many of us. we don't fully understand what it's like to be in their shoes. but you see the crowd behind you, and we see people who are caucasians. we saw a man holding a sign that says stop racist police. joining the call to action, trying to understand the other side and reaching out the hands so it does seem like this movement is making progress, even if it's on the slightest level. i want to ask another quick question before we let you go. when it comes to police presence there while things are staying safe, what is the police role that you are seeing there? are they joining in solidarity? is there a physical division still? >> reporter: i'm glad you brought that up. earlier we saw the police chief of washington, d.c. walking through this crowd, talking to
the demonstrators, saying that she's here to support and stand with her friends. she said she had friends in the crowd. it was important for her to show the people that showed up here today that the police stands with them,ny th they understand want change, they understand things aren't perfect, but they understand things are getting better. i spoke with an activist who marched in the 1960s. he's a famous activist and a comedian. he was saying that some people are calling this the modern civil rights movement. it's not. he says that things have gotten better. there's no one here out here that's afraid for their safety. there's no one here that is being assaulted by the police. this is a demonstration, a peaceful demonstration. people have shown up. and you were talking about you could hear a pin drop. look at everybody's face is in that direction. this isn't -- you don't see people on their phones looking at their phones. you see everybody looking at the speakers up there on the stage. they are listening to every
word. that's what is telling about the group that showed up here today. they came here for a reason, with purpose. there isn't people that just want to be here. people are passionate about these issues and they have stuck around to listen to everyone who is speaking here. >> all right. live in washington, d.c., thank you for that. important to mention, we so appreciate all the hard work our men and women in law enforcement are doing as well. we know that there are many good men and women who are just as angry about some of the disparities that are seen in our society. our other big story in washington, live pictures from capitol hill. right now the senate is trying to stop another government shutdown from happening. we're taking you inside the chambers. they are trying to get through this $1 trillion spending bill. until they actually go ahead and pass the measure as a whole, they have to have some kind of stopgap measure to keep the government up and running. erin mcpike is at the white
house. what is the word? are you getting news as to what's happening? >> reporter: they are going through a series of votes today on a number of the president's nominations that republicans have actually held up throughout the year. the buy product is that there are is other progress being made. harry reid, when the senate convened around noon, explained what would happen throughout the day. he said to expect a vote around 1:00 a.m. tonight on a vote that would move the procedure forward so that they can have the vote on final passage sometime on monday. harry reid did express some frustration over two republican senators who have held the process up somewhat over the weekend. i want you to listen to the commends. >> regrettably, small group of senate republicans who is determined it's in their political interests to hold this legislation hostage. >> reporter: what he is referring to is ted cruz and mike lee, two junior republican senators who were on the senate floor last night and mike lee
specifically objected to the unanimous consent that harry reid was asking for so they could adjourn this weekend and vote on monday. here are lee and cruz last night trying to make a stand on immigration. >> before the united states senate is a bill that does nothing, absolutely nothing to stop president obama's illegal and unconstitutional amnesty. that's why i rise to speak here today. >> i certainly don't see any reason why we should agree to move forward then and not have any assurance that we would at least have an opportunity to vote on an amendment that would impose a spending limitation on the president's ability to implement his executive amnesty action. >> reporter: now, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell told reporters earlier today
that he was blind sided by these two, which it's unusual for these two to do that once the two senate leaders have agreed to move forward on something. a lot of republicans are very frustrated right now with ted cruz and mike lee because there has been a compromise, even though members of both parties don't like this bill, they like that there has been compromise and that they can avoid a government shutdown. we expect final passage will happen monday and that president obama will sign this $1.1 trillion bill sometime this week before he heads -- in the next week, i should say, before he heads to hawaii with his family on friday. this sets up a big fight on immigration sometime in february. >> quickly, we talked about the republicans who don't like this bill. there were some democrats who spoke out against it as well we know. elizabeth warren was one of them. are the dems aligned or is there division on that side? >> reporter: there are democrats
who are very upset. warren and nancy pelosi. they are upset because it rolls back some regulations on wall street. it also dramatically raises the limits that donors can give to political parties. they think this is a bad thing for the middle class. but elizabeth warren made the stand she made but she's not going to stand in the way of passing the bill. >> all right. thank you. let's turn to the weather. the damage from the storms that have moved through california. we have live images from the scene, southern california, just outside of l.a. where the homes you can see are buried up the roofs with all of the rock and debris following mudslides there. several homes were swallowed up. luckily the evacuations were ordered before the mudslides began. no injuries, no reports of any victims in this case. but certainly a huge mess and homes lost shgsz whi, which is see.
>> we have this rainfall and in the big scream of thing, one to two, possibly three inches of rainfall does not sound all that substantial. but if you are in california and one of the weirdest years that we have had in quite a long time, they are saying that the severe or the extreme drought that has materialized, the ground is so dry that that water is running off. that's what we saw, because primarily there was a burn area that brought all that debris down the hill. and it's just filled the homes with muck and mud and boulders. look at the other thing. that's a tornado. we have been showing is you all day here on cnn. the person shooting this video was rather excited, as you can hear. >> holy [ bleep ]. >> yeah. well, as you can imagine, this ef-0 tornado touched down on the south side of los angeles. it did do damage.
winds estimated between 65 and 85 miles an hour. trees were blown down, power outages. there were buildings damaged. no one was injured. even though with all this violent weather and a couple of inches of rainfall, it is amazing that in southern california, having dealt with the violent weather, that we didn't see more in the way of injuries. there were several water rescues, one in the l.a. river. two people, husband and wife, were rescued there. the tornado touched down, it was about 9:00. you don't have a lot of warning, especially with december violent storms. here goes our one wet weather system. another one, yes, it's right on the heels. it doesn't look as if it's going to be quite as intense, because the other that we saw was a pineapple express, it produced all the wet weather. >> triggering the mudslides. up next, wall street takes a big tank. but there's a silver lining for
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take a look at these live pictures from new york city. this is washington park square -- washington square park. it looks to be thousands of demonstrators who are gathered there for a march that just got under way at 2:00. coming up we will take you there live to the ground to talk about what these protesters are demanding and calling for today in this national day of action. it was perhaps the worst week for wall street in more than three years. there's a silver lining. allis allison kossick explains. >> the dow, nasdaq and s&p dropped this week. the problem, we had not just one
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it's 2:21 in the east, 11:21 in the east. the fbi is at work investigating the sony hack attack. the attack exposed secrets and embarrassing e-mails exchanged between executives. but private companies are not the only vulnerable ones. america's power grid, the subway system, air traffic control could be at risk. >> reporter: cyber attacks against sony, target, home depoet, j.p. morgan chase, google, e bail abay have allowe
millions of people's datas to be stolen. now imagine if cyber attacks made your light goes out, or cut off your water supply. imagine if the instra truck tur we rely on shut down. the threat is not only very real, it's inevitable. >> it's only a matter of the when, not the if, that we are going to see something. >> reporter: this man heads the nsa and cyber command. >> we have seen individuals, groups inside critical u.s. infrastructure. >> reporter: that's right. power plants, banking systems, air traffic control, subways, all are vulnerable. >> years ago what could have been accomplished through a an attack using missiles or bombs now can be done with key strokes where they can wipe out an electric grid not just for days or weeks but for months.
>> reporter:ed aved aver adver inside computers. it's not just about getting information but it's the ability to control those sectors. >> this is something that we worry about. >> reporter: cnn was given access to a cyber security center known as nkik. it's run by the dhs under-secretary who oversees investigators, analysts and private experts scrutinizing real time cyber breaches. >> the thing that keeps me awake at night is knowing that there is the potential there for adversaries to get into those control systems. those systems that really run machinery, whether it's gates sn dams or parts of the electric grid. >> reporter: isn't this an active war? >> that's the million dollar question. what the chinese are doing is preparing the battlefield for if
the day were to arrive. then they would have significant advantage. >> reporter: this cyber security expert shows us how easy it is to shut down somebody like a power grid. >> we have the hacker's computer. the hacker has broken into the electric utility. now we have access to the electric utility's network. reverse engineered codes which are running the operating system on this device, which is controlling the electric grid. >> reporter: once inside the system, the attacker waits to strike. and then watch as the lights go off in less than a second. more than three-quarters of the nation's critical infrastructure is privately owned. they are not doing enough to safeguard their systems. >> they don't want it coming out of the bottom line. >> reporter: the threat is akin to knowing about the hijackers pre9/11 and doing nothing. >> we know that there's a glaring vulnerability and we're not moving with urgency to close
it. >> let's talk about this sony hacking situation and bring in our white hat hacker and the ceo of trusted sec, david kennedy. the sony hack has been eye opening. what has stood out to you the most? >> i mean, it's the malicious intent. they have released e-mails, exposed internal documents. they had a lot of information. then they destroyed large portions of sony's server where they couldn't e-mails out. it shows you how bad and how impactful it was. >> sony is a technology company. how sophisticated was this attack? >> you know, when you look at the attacks, it doesn't look like it was too sophisticated. experts say it could have been north korea. there's a lot of evidence showing that's not the case, that it was a hacker group that broke in. that's the scary part. if you look at the wide spectrum of the financial sector, medical
sector and the electrical grid, they are years behind probably what sony had. we're vulnerable when it comes to the types of attacks we see across countries. >> as you mentioned, we don't know who is behind this attack. >> that's right. >> we pointed the finger at north korea. based on your own analysis, what groups or individuals could be capable of pulling it off? >> there's different democrat graph ins. i don't believe this came from north korea. their cyber capabilities are pretty behind the times when it comes to other different countries. what we look at with groups and the motives behind it. there's different reasons. it could be more monetary gain, to gain money from a fraud perspective. in most cases if you look at the groups, a lot of it is for publishing information, exposing companies. they released a lot of movies that hadn't been released yet. there's a lot of motives behind it. it could be affiliated with anonymous or other groups. we don't know. >> you say there's new information that suggests that the hack actually began a few months ago? >> that's right.
there's evidence that came out that sony knew about the breach in february. the only reason it started to disclose the information was due to it started to be leaked. it held back all of the information that had been he compromised since early in february, which is alarming if you think about it. that's several months that had gone by without notifying individuals of their personal information, medical records compromised and exposed, employee information, a lot of different things out there. >> it's really scary to think about the potential that hackers have to disrupt some of these huge institutions. we talk about the power grid and air traffic control, the true danger that people could be put into. how vulnerable are these systems? are there safety nets to protect us? >> if you think about it, everything that we do right now is technology-based. a lot of the -- if you look at the power grid, it's running off of equipment from the '60s and '70s that haven't been touched because they don't want to impact it. they are highly vulnerable.
companies are trying to grasp what that means. the problem is that they didn't want continue to invest money. now they are behind actually securing them. it will take a long time to get up to speed to try to protect against a lot of these. we will see a lot of attacks continue to happen. we are very vulnerable. >> sounds like we needed this to get everybody going. >> we did. unfortunately, we will see more. it's going to promote a better environment that we see out there. >> david kennedy, thank you. we appreciate your time today. >> thank you. >> we will be right back. ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ push it. ♪ p...push it real good! ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ oooh baby baby...baby baby. if you're salt-n-pepa, you tell people to push it. ♪ push it real good. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance,
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altercation. the police who lined up along the route. speaking out against unfair treatment of law enforcement involving minorities. the group in boston was very much confronted by the police. we don't know exactly what happened. you see them there pulling at least one person aside, appears to detain this individual. we know that at least one other person we saw come from the crowd also detained by police. we're working to get more information about what unfolded there. we do not see violence when we were watching. we will keep you posted on that situation. from boston to new york city, there's another massive protest march happening there set to begin any minute now in new york city, our alexandra field is on the ground. the protesters are planning to march to the new york police department headquarters. what are they hoping to accomplish? >> reporter: this is a march that is all about fighting for
non-violence in the police force. they are getting under way right now. thousands of people who been out here this morning, they have been flooding into washington square park, a few hours before it was set to begin because they wanted an opportunity to actually meet with each other, talk with each other. a lot of this was organized through social media. there are different groups coming together. this was their opportunity to meet, to talk, to plan accordingly and then to embark on this march that they are getting -- they are heading on their way. they are united by common themes where they say that they are fighting for non-violence here, they want reform to the police department. they are walking in memory of eric garner, mike brown. they are pointing to cases where they feel police used excessive force. they are calling for reforms in the future and not just in this city but across the country. this is a march that's made up of a very diverse group of people. we are seeing a lot of young people here, racially, ethnically mixed. it's a calm morning here.
a lot of people just actually appreciating the opportunity to come together to talk. there's been a little bit of chanting. they know a lot of eyes are on them. they want to share their message, which is why they have designed their route. they will head north in manhattan and turn around and head down to police headquarters where they will wrap up their rally. we will give you a look at some of the people who have garthered o out here this morning. so many talking to each other, holding signs and looking forward to the opportunity to participate in something that's a little more organized, had been a little more planned for than some of the previous demonstrations we had seen pop up. >> we are looking at this huge helicopter shot that show it going on and on for blocks. we know you are at the heart of it. keep us posted on what happens on the ground. glad to hear things are peaceful there. after the 9/11 attacks, the hunt for terrorists began. some say we turned to torture to get information. coming up, the fallout from the
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democratic senator dianne feinstein explains why she felt it was necessary for the senate intelligence committee to release this report. >> the release of this 500-page summary cannot remove that stain. but it can and does say to our people and the world that america is big enough to admit when it's wrong and confident enough to learn from its mistakes. releasing this report is an important step to restore our values and show the world that we are in fact a just and lawful society. >> despite the politics surrounding this report, it's important to remember and to not forget that this debate is personal for those who lost loved ones on september 11, 2001. i'm joined by terry who lost her husband tom. he was in the north tower.
thanks for spending time with us. >> thank you for having me today. >> i know you bring an interesting perspective to the conversation. your husband essentially died at the hands of terrorists. what is your reaction when you hear senator feinstein say it was wrong to use these enhanced interrogation techniques on men who are believed to have helped plan the september 11th attack? >> well, certainly, there is a lot of controversy around this report. there's controversy on who authorized this use of torture. there's controversy, is it torture? there's controversy, was it effective or not? a lot of those things i don't know the answers to. what i do know is this. we are fighting an amoral enemy. we are fighting terrorists who do not play by any rules of war. we cannot continue to send out troops over there, our country cannot continue to fight this war on terror with boots on the ground, air strikes, drones,
sanctions against these countries. we cannot also stoop to their level. we cannot become barbarians like them. we cannot just kill people like they do or torture people like they do. how do we destroy this enemy? 9/11 families and survivors, we believe the best way to go about -- essential way to go about this war on terror is to go after the bankrollers of the terrorist organizations. in essence, they are as evil as the terrorists themselves. so a report that i'm much more concerned about than this torture report is 28 pages that were excised from the 2002 joint inquiry into the intelligence activities before and after the september 11th attacks. in this report, it refers to the foreign sponsors and the relationship that they had with some of the 19 hijackers while they were here in this country. this report has been kept hidden from the american people and the
9/11 families for over a decade. and we are trying to get to the truth about who was behind 9/11 so we can go after the bankrollers, after the people that finance, give the financial aid and the logistical aid to these terrorists while they were here. >> what are you hearing about why that report, that information has not been made public? >> okay. every person that i have spoken to that have read this report have ensured us that there is no threat to national security. when it was excised back in 2002, it was under the threat of -- national security threat. every person i have spoken to said there's no threat to national security. they said at best it would embarrass the sound did is, it would embarrass saudi arabia because of the role that they played in aiding and abetting the 19 hijackers while they were here in this country. beyond the 28 pages, the 9/11 families have enacted
legislation. this bill i am proud to say passed the senate on thursday evening. senator shumer did a wonderful job and cornen got it through the senate. now we will come back in january and move the bill through the house. this will enable victims of terrorism to hold accountable those who finance the attacks, those who aid and abet the terrorists that are killing the loved ones or threatening to kill our loved ones on american soil. >> do you fear or is there concern from yourself or other families that this information could in some way be twisted to help the bad guys? for example, there are attorneys for detainees who say the so-called torture report, for example, could maybe aid their clients, spare them from the death penty. might it be a good idea to withhold some information? >> again, you know, i haven't read the 500 pages. it's very hard for me to speak on them specifically.
torture, it's unconstitutional. i can't argue that point. i can't argue that it's legal. but, again, i don't know all the methods they were using fall under the umbrella of torture. a lot of it is unclear to me. >> does the information that you are receiving help or hurt your healing process? >> it doesn't help in the least. it's painful. we don't want -- we're not an eye for an eye society or the 9/11 families aren't. we're not looking to, like i said, become barbarians like they are. we would like to use the methods that i was speaking about to go about ending this war on terror. i don't want to hear any more blood shed. i don't want to hear that one more milly teary person has lost their life. i don't -- it's very upsetting. >> understandably. thank you, terry, for joining us. so sorry for your loss, even
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it just got a little worse. >> i have chicken pox. >> chicken pox, yes. she announced, that's her next problem right now. this was a video message on youtube. she will miss the premiere of "unbroken" she directed and produced. she had to cancel our events next week. the other part of this week has been those e-mails between sony executives where a top hollywood producer called her a spoiled brat. i want to talk more about this. it's great to talk to you. what a week for angelina jolie. let's start with the chicken pox video. did she have to put out the video? >> it's interesting. i don't think that i nor anyone has uttered the word, i wouldn't want to be angelina jolie. this is a first. she has had a terrible week.
she put the video out on youtube letting everyone know i have chicken pox. i think it's because that it ties to the e-mail hack a little bit. we saw this come out about her saying that she was a minimally talented spoiled brat. the fact she pulled out from her public events, i think she didn't want people to think it was because of that. she wanted to give everyone proof and show them i am sick. i don't think she had to put out the video. angelina didn't want anyone to think she was shirking her duty. >> we showed the picture about the one with her and an executive with this very icy moment. was it supposed to be a hug? were they talking about something serious? do you know what happened? >> it was at the women of hollywood power breakfast in los angeles on wednesday. what i do know -- you and i can
attest to this. you can take a snapshot and get people in different various poses or facial expressions. i would say that capturing a meeting between her and amy the day after these e-mails come out, i can imagine only what she was thinking. i do think that her face read a lot on that video. now, i know that some people were speculating that amy may have been apologizing to her and angelina was listening. what i do know is that angelina takes her craft and her projects very seriously. to see someone say those things about her i can only imagine how she felt, especially now that she's promoting a film she had so much of her heart in. i know that she probably is thinking, i cannot believe this stuff has come out now. we have heard since then other actors and also directors and producers come out and say, you know what, now we are seeing
what the executives think about us. it's starting to unravel. it's not a good thing, not at all. >> everybody has to watch their back. you mentioned "unbroken." she has been getting great p publici publicity. it's a big deal. makes you think that the timing of all this -- is it good or bad? is is it a case of any news is good news if you are a hollywood star trying to promote something? >> you know, i am a subscriber to that. i'm not sure there is bad publicity. if people are talking about you, then it's a good thing, regardless of what they are talking about. i will say for this film, i think it was interesting and maybe even telling this week, the golden globe nominations came out on thursday and we did not see angelina jolie get a nomination for best director for this film. i will tell you, the hollywood foreign press loves her. for them to pass her over, i'm not sure what that says for her
down the road with oscar nominations. we did see another woman get nominated for a golden globe for her movie, the first african-american woman to be nominated in the director category. a lot would speculate it would be her or angelina to get a nomination. it could always change. it could always change. "unbroken" is the type of movie that the oscar -- that the academy loves and could see nominations for. >> i'm looking forward to seeing it. it's interesting during award season for sure. thanks for spending time with us today. we will be back. just in time for the holidays. t-mobile introduces america's only unlimited 4g lte family plan. get two lines of unlimited 4g lte data for just 100 bucks a month. with any smart phone. including the samsung galaxy note 4, for $0 down. add more family members for just 40 bucks a pop.
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>> as the shooting began, i moved behind this pillar. >> reporter: josh is a reporter with a newspaper. he captured the most dramatic video. people in either doorway, chairs being piled. >> knowing the doors couldn't be locked and hearing that much fire power was really shocking. >> freeman was one of them. >> it was an intense moment. we hit under desks. >> now, now, now. go, go. >> we were all afraid for our lives. >> afraid until kevin vickers made his stand. >> at that moment after the first exchange, just down another hall is the sergeant at arms. >> reporter: this man is a reporter and host of cbc.
he obtained exclusive details of how the incident transpired. >> kevin vehicickers exits down hall, which is very close. he goes right to the other side of the pillar. you have to imagine this. on one side of the pillar now is the shooter. on the other side of this pillar is now kevin vickers with his gun. >> thank you for spending part of your saturday with us. the next hour of newsroom begins right now with poppy harlow in new york. have a great weekend. you are in the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow joining you live. across the country, people are combining their voices and raising them in hopes of