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hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and of course all around the world. i'm rosemary church. >> i'm errol barnett. it's 9:00 a.m. in france where afp is quoting the interior minister who says seven people have now been detained in the investigation of wednesday's shooting in paris. that happening in the overnight hours. >> and police are of course still looking for two brothers. cherif and saeed kouachi. well known in franceiting
islamists to go to iran and chechnya. >> the gunmen walked into offices of the satirical magazine charlie edbow. witnesses say they asked for people by name and divided the men from the men before executing them. 12 were dead by the end of this including two police officers. 11 people wounded. >> just horrifying details. outside the building several people captured the gunmen's escape on video, that's when they opened fire on a policeman and shot him in the head at point-blank range. paul merero works in the building. >> first thing i saw was the doorman, the men that i would see every morning, this grumpy guy that we liked and appreciated. he was lying down and he was dead. he had been shot. they wanted to go inside as
quick as possible. he wasn't fast enough to open the door of the building and they shot him. the second thing i saw was the stairways were full of blood and i saw injured people in the stairways. among them, a friend, a guy i knew for 20 years. got two bullets in his legs. in each leg. and then i got up to the office and there were survivors from charlie hedbo, they were crying hysterically. they were frustrated and not capable of saying anything of saying a word. it was a very heavy moment of tension. >> all right, we're just getting word that president hollande has said in fact the prime minister
has said that the two suspects were known to security forces there in france. we'll keep an eye on that. we'll come back to that a little later. today is a national day of mourning in france. and in paris, the mood is somber and defiant. i want to bring in paris bureau chief and france correspondent for the economist. she joins us via skype. sophie talk to us about what impact you think this deadly attack is likely to have on people in france and the impact it's had so far. and how do you think this may change the fabric of the country? >> these things are always very difficult to judge. after 9/11 after the london bombings it takes time for the wounds to heal. but obviously there are often really quite significant political changes that emerge. that are difficult to identify at the time. but what one can say at this point is that the french have been i think, there's been a
real sense of national unity, which is very striking. it's a country that's known its share of tension over the years, particularly ethnic and religious tension. the country has really come together. there were rallies across the country, vigils in cities french people came out to sort of in a way, take a defiant stand against terrorism and also as a mark of sympathy and solidarity with charlie hedbo, the newspaper. so the initial reaction is obviously shock, but it's also a sense of pulling together and defiance in a country which does pride itself on standing for things like liberty and principles of free speech. i think they feel that we will not be coward is the move in paris at the moment. >> that is the overriding sentiment. but also importantly, there seems to be this concerted
effort too to sort of embrace muslims, talk to us about that. >> well it's a very difficult time. because there's the possibility that some people are going to link islam with terrorism and that's the concern. but i think the french have so far reacted in a mature way and nobody's making that connection. people are perfectly capable of distinguishing between ordinary law abiding french citizens and the very, very small radical terrorist minority which does this sort of violence. so i don't think that's the concern, but you have to remember france is a country in which the national party has done extremely well. some people suggest the national leader could make it into the second round of voting if a presidential election were held
today. so one is very conscious that there are parties that could capitalize on those sorts of feelings. but it was very responsible yesterday in expressing her outrage and horror at what had taken place. if anything there's a sense of political responsibility and coming together at this particular point. how long that lasts is another question. it's rare in france a lot of rivalry between political parties and it can get quite tense at times, but at the moment there's a really responsible political response to this tragedy. >> all right. sophie thanks so much for joining us. appreciate it. >> well the attack in paris follows a number of recent and unrelated lone-wolf terror incidents around the world. >> yeah the shootings in ottawa canada and the siege in sydney australia, both were carried out by a single assailant. but what happened in paris yesterday was different. listen to what cnn analyst mark
hurtling had to say about it. >> when i first saw it i was very concerned. because it was a different approach. first of all, the uniforms they were all in the same uniform. what i could tell from looking at their coats, they were very bulky, which led me to believe they either had armored vestings underneath or some type of suicide device. one of the gunmen had a triple-point sling which gives you capability to fire a weapon closer. when you saw the pictures of the police vehicles with the bullet holes through the window that was what is called a tight shot group. very different than the kind of things we normally see with jihadist where it's a pray and spray with their ak-47. they were firing single shot not firing automatic on the automatic device. and it was aimed fire. they had good muzzle awareness as they went through the streets, which means they didn't across in front of each other. this was a trained group.
the reconnaissance that they must have conducted for this operation was probably ongoing for weeks if not months. now, as we heard from our previous guest, some say the attack will help fuel france's extreme right national front party. dominic joins us by phone to discuss that very point. he is a political scientist and writer in paris. thank you so much for speaking with us. this is the concern. at the moment of course the sentiment is extraordinary across paris. it has to be said people are out there in force, they're united. they're making sure that muslims within the country are not feeling isolated and feeling that people are turning on them. do you think that could change? and do you think that there is this risk that the far right will actually be boosted by this? >> well l so so far, the far right
and la pen have reacted with great caution. and i wouldn't even say a sense of responsibility. saying specifically that what should not accuse of muslims in france that only a very few of them had been responsible for that horrendous attack. but in she said in the same sentence that of course there was a muslim problem in france. so yes, i think the moment of extraordinary unity, which we are witnessing right now, will probably not last forever, and politics will return with a vengeance. and of course what happened in paris yesterday is a plus
essentially for the extreme right. >> what changes do you think have to take place politically and when it comes to policy within france to try to ensure that this sort of attack doesn't happen again? do you think that's even possible? >> no unfortunately. you cannot prevent a terrorist attack to occur. the best protection would limit the risk but would not suppress the possibility, the inevitability that at some point something will happen. there's no absolute protection against terrorism. but of course it's a question of intelligence above all. it's a question of awareness of the citizens and it's very
important to see what the muslim community says. and so far we've seen yesterday imams muslim religious leaders condemning very strongly what happened yesterday in paris. will there be massive demonstrations of muslims in the streets of paris, saying not in our name that would be a very important point to watch in the coming days and weeks. >> now, as you said the national front party is reacting with caution. all eyes now of course will be on president hollande he is having crisis meetings. and then he will meet with former president nicolas sarkozy. it's going to be a very delicate operation for him in the aftermath of this attack to see how he responds politically and what he puts in place.
how delicate an issue do you think that is for hollande? how dangerous is it for him politically? >> well for the moment it would be of course cynical to say so but what happened yesterday, the tragedy of yesterday is a plus for president hollande. he appeared on french television as presidential. he was calm he was determined. he called on the frenchmen to be united and determined in not giving in to any sign of weakness. so for the moment, he is the strong man in charge. and of course all will depend on the rapidity of the action of the police. i mean will the terrorists be quickly neutralized in the
coming hours, if not in the coming days? the french need to be reassured, to be convinced that their state is both strong and efficient in the fight against terrorism. >> certainly. and of course at this point, now these two main suspects these prime suspects have been named. they have distributed their photograph so it's now a matter of time to see whether they can be tracked down. and that will impact the political life of president hollande. many thanks to you dominic for joining us. >> thank you. >> now, within the next 15 minutes or so the french president is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting with his government ministers in response to the attack. in a speech to the nation on wednesday, though he called for national unity.
>> translator: freedom will always be stronger than barbarity. france has always fought against enemies when she was able to block and unite with these values unity, uniting together with all forces all forms, that is what our response must be. we must unite against this and we will win, because we have all the capacity to believe in our destiny and nothing can make us move away from this determination. let us unite. long live the republic long live france. president hollande met with religious leaders wednesday just hours after the shooting. two prominent muslim clerics strongly condemned the attacks. >> translator: in the name of the prophet, which prophet? their prophet is satan, unfortunately. he reacts to hate not to love. truly islam condemns assassination, condemns murder condemns taking the lives of
those around you. truly. and we are absolutely horrified. we are stunned. >> and we continue to follow our breaking news of the shooting rampage in paris. >> that's right. coming up, cnn talks to the man who shot this video as the attack unfolded. you're going to want to hear what he has to say. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yeah, everybody knows that. well, did you know that playing cards with kenny rogers gets old pretty fast? ♪ you got to know when to hold'em. ♪ ♪ know when to fold 'em. ♪
events taking place there. it's not clear if it's connected, but we want to update you on this. reuters now reporting a police officer has been wounded in a shoot-out today in a suburb in southern paris. >> yeah a police source says it's not clear at this point if the incident is linked to the attack at the "charlie hedbo" offices in paris. we'll keep an eye on this story and bring you more details as they come into us. but we did want to make sure we let you know about that development. well updating our breaking news now, seven people have been detained in the investigation in the shooting at a magazine headquarters in france. a quote from the french interior minister police are still looking for the two gunmen. france's prime minister says they've been known to police for some time. one of them left an i.d.
document at the scene. a source tells afp that a third suspect turned himself in to police. >> french president francois hollande has declared a national day of mourning for the 12 people killed. there will be a moment of silence at midday today in france. the prime minister voiced his support for the satirical magazine a short while ago, saying quote, "charlie hedbo" must continue that this must not limit in any way freedom of speech in france. >> and some of the most famous and controversial cartoonists in france are among the dead. >> they were apparently targeted because of "charlie hedbo's" frequent jabs at islamic fundamentalists. >> stephane charbonnier, known to his readers as charb, was no stranger to death threats.
his parities of the prophet muhammad got him known as one of al qaeda's most wanted. but he never backed down. >> translator: one has the impression that everybody's driven by fear. that's what this small handful of fundamentalists wants to do. govern through fear. >> wolen ski was one of france's most famous cartoonists, his work poked fun at politicians on the pages of mainstream publications. but he also put his pen to paper for more outrageous effect in publications like "charlie hedbo." bernard was also killed in the attack, better known by his pen name. he was 58 years old. and kabou was their lead cartoonist and reportedly one of the highest paid cartoonists in the world.
>> that was the view from one eyewitness of the horrific attack in paris. you are watching cnn's continuing coverage of what took place. there are a number of new developments coming into cnn this hour. first, the french interior minister tells afp seven people have been detained overnight in the investigation into wednesday's shooting. but the two main suspects are reportedly still on the loose and considered armed and dangerous. these two men. now, france's prime minister tells afp that the brothers cherif and saeed kouachi were known to intelligence services and were no doubt being followed before the attack. police say they found an i.d. document that one of them left behind in the possible get-away vehicle. >> now, there has been an
outpouring of support for charlie hed bo on line. using the hash tag, i am charlie. >> what's being said online, it seems as if those tweeting with that hash tag are increasing per minute as we get to a new day in france. >> absolutely. it's 8:25 in london 9:25 in paris. europe really waking up and taking to twitter to express their shock and horror over what has happened. they're also showing their solidarity as rosy was saying, the hash tag which has become a rallying call which is je suis charlie. also we are charlie. this is live as we're seeing it right now. 750 tweets or so per minute. look how intense it is in europe and indeed in north america. you're starting to see as people
wake up the conversation is increasing now. one of the most tweeted and liked pictures on instagram is this heartbreaking one here. this was posted by elsa wolinski. she is the daughter of wolinski who was killed on wednesday. the photo shows an empty desk where he used to draw and reads, dad is gone but not. paying tribute to those who have died in the last 24 hours. famous cartoonists around the world, really taking to the drawing board as a tribute to their colleagues. they have put pen to paper. this one from -- >> we're going to have to interrupt you and go to france's prime minister right now. he is speaking now. let's just bring that up. >> translator: -- the research and the inquiry, like to involve security risks and might make it
impossible to catch these people. so i appeal to the responsibility of each individual and yesterday evening, overnight, today, information is being circulated which might be damaging to the work of the police and other security force rssforces. so i do appeal to each one to be responsible. thank you. >> certainly a very short address there to the press. there at the palace. we know president hollande has been meeting with the prime minister and cabinet members and will meet with former president nicolas sarkozy. he was talking about the responsibility of the police there as they try to find these two suspects try to track them down. >> it seems as though they want to show that the government is doing everything it can to get answers to what happened. there have been a number of detentions overnight and things
do appear to be moving kind of unprecedented that the current president would invite the former president to come to the palace. >> and show the unity. and of course what has really been the turning point in this investigation and this effort this manhunt is the fact that one of the suspects left his identification documents in the car. and from that point on and you've got a lot of public have really contributed to this taking video, so they were able to identify the car. >> we'll stay on all of this throughout the day and bring you more updates as they come to us out of that meeting happening right now at this moment there in paris. all right, we'll take a short break again, but targeted for their words or pictures ahead in the aftermath of the paris attack. we'll hear from a film maker who is still facing a death threat from militants. we are back in a moment.
>> blue and red after 9/11. today in france after this form of september 11, there is no right or left no muslim or jew. there is french people standing firmly with their own values and saying "no" to terror. >> welcome back to all of you watching here in the u.s. and all around the world. listening there to reaction from french author levy on the terror attack at "charlie hebdo" magazine in paris. >> the interior minister says seven people have been detained in the investigation. the alleged shooters remain at large. there they are.
they are brothers who are said to be known to french intelligence agencies. cnn affiliate reports one of them left an i.d. document at the scene. >> now, you saw the tail end of this just a few moments ago, but we've gone back and gotten more of what was said as the french prime minister addressed this rampage and said it was an attack on the entire country, not just paris. >> translator: they wanted to kill the very spirit that the people the french editors, this is a question of freedom of tolerance. they wanted to assassinate the very heart of france faced this with extraordinary response mobilization. my question is is it sufficient? we need to think of the victims and today is a day of mourning and silence. >> now, while we are still
following latest developments on wednesday's terror attack we want to bring you more on the story we're breaking to you this hour, as reuters continues to report that a police officer was wounded in a shoot-out today, must have been during the early morning hours there in a suburb in southern paris. >> yeah a police source says it is not clear at this point if the incident is linked to the attack at the "charlie hebdo" offices in paris. at this point, we don't know that. but we are watching closely. there are a lot of emergency vehicles at the scene. we're looking at live pictures, in fact and we'll bring you more details as they come in to us. >> what strikes you as you see that is the size of the presence the security presence does seem quite large. if this was an isolated incident you wouldn't expect this. the entire country is in a heightened state offof alert. >> very much on edge. well the attack in paris is the
latest targeting writers, film makers or cartoonists for their idea. in 2004 van gogh was murdered for his film "submission," which was critical of the treatment of women in islam. anderson cooper spoke with van gogh's film collaborator who is still under a death threat and the co-founder of the kill yam foundation. >> i feel that our communities have failed somebody like her who is on a hit list. aian i personally feel that i wish more muslims were on the front line defending your right to follow your conscience. and my work, and if it's successful it will result in many others like me and there are others there are people in america, in canada in london there are the beginnings of these voices of muslim reformers who are attempting to open up
this can of worms, and reform discourse from within the faith, so all of us can say we will ride with you. we will defend your right to follow your conscience and speak as you see fit. because the last time i checked, aian did not attack anyone. it's not just provocative statements. the problem is men, but also women, who decide it's their prerogative to slaughter people in the name of god, as if god can't look after himself. >> we now together stand on this issue on one side which is the use of words, the use of speech the use of images can never, ever justify -- never, ever justify retaliation of violence. . so as far as this is concerned, we are 100% on the same side.
he's mentioned a number of names of individuals like me who were born into islam. i think what we need to do and i admire his courage, i completely encourage him and all of us born into muslim households in whatever degree we're going to address this. but the most important bit of it is to face the grim reality that this is embedded in the religion that we were brought up in. >> ayaan and majit, speaking to anderson cooper a little earlier. errol? >> go ahead and connect with a terrorism expert with an independent security think-tank. thanks so much for connecting with us this morning. i'm wondering what you make of the recent development that seven individuals have been detained in overnight hours. there was a raid before that took place at one location one
suburb. what do you make of the attack and how many people when it's all said and done and we'll find out, were actually involved? >> well it's a very disturbing event. we've seen targeted assassinations before in terrorism such as the woolwich killing in south london a year and a half ago. also more recently the attacks in canada. but this is on a much larger scale. also the feeling one gets is that it's not being conducted by self-starters. it's potentially part of a much larger network. one of the individuals, kouachi is alleged to be one of the gunmen. it's believed he was connected to a network in iraq. he was convicted of traveling there in 2004. we need to see more information. but unfortunately, this was also inevitable. those publications have issued those cartoons in the past have all come under threat. it was only a question of time
before one was unfortunately targeted. what do you make of the fact that one of the brothers the suspects was under surveillance? the authorities were aware of him. he had been imprisoned for terrorism-related activity before and yet somehow he was able to put together what appeared to be a very sophisticated and well planned out attack. for a country that wants to be confident that it's doing all it can, how can something like that be explained? >> there are always going to be these gaps and holes in the security apparatus. and sometimes those gaps then create events like this. we should give maximum credit to the french authorities. they've disrupted a lot of major terrorist plots in the country since 9/11. in many ways the french are actually the best at this. but it's a constant uphill treadmill for the authorities. they have to be lucky all the time. the terrorists need to be lucky just that once. and it then comes down to resources.
kouachi fitted in the category of desirable profiling. he was somebody they looked at in the past but didn't seem to show any desire to carry out attacks after his release to prison. those type of incidents have happened before like in the 77 attacks in london in 2005. some of those suspects were on the monitoring list but they weren't seen as directly connected to a terrorist group. ultimately it's very difficult for the authorities to have that intelligence until after an attack. and of course by then it's too late. >> should then the response be that isolated incidents like this as horrific as they are, as heartbreaking as they are, is this part of the new world we live in? it's impossible to know who is thinking about attacking a place, or who is that one lone wolf. that would suggest that things like this are things that we should get used to. >> it's a very scary thought, isn't it? something that has altered our lives significantly.
it's no longer necessarily about the mass casualty plots that al qaeda have attempted in the past. those have been disrupted. there's better intelligence detecting a network or a cell foiling the plot and arresting individuals. these type of targeted assassinations are potentially now a trend that we are witnessing and we've seen a lot of politicians in the last day talk about that democracy cannot be defeated. that the systems of our politics will exist. they're missing the central point. the terrorist goal is to make us feel and think differently, make us feel insecure. in many ways they are achieving that every time these type of attacks take place. >> sobering assessment there. thanks so much for connecting with us from london this morning. once again, it just feels like the world witnesses another brutal attack in france in the name of islam. >> and as cnn's jonathan mann reports, it only adds to the
anxiety in a nation with western europe's largest minority. >> in that brief moment of the attack the vengeance for the prophet muhammad. extremist islam bringing bloodshed to their streets. just last month, a man shouting god is great, stabbed three policemen in central france before being shot and killed. the next day, the driver of a van also shouting the same thing, rammed into pedestrians, injuring at least 12 of them. attacks that help fuel the kind of anxiety that's helped the national front a once marginal party make dramatic gains, in part because of its open unapologetic opposition to immigration and defense of france's historic culture and institutions. after the paris attack marie la pen has said islam extremism has made france too frightened to
speak the truth. >> translator: it was a terrorist attack committed in the name of radical islam. the time for denial and hypocrisy is over. the absolute refusal of islamic fundamentalism has to be declared. >> politics are changing because the people of change are francing. france has western european's largest muslim population. a largely law abiding community still trying to find full acceptance. one measure of how france feels about muslims, a 2013 poll found that 7 of 10 respondents believe islam want to impose their way of life on others. with that kind of resistance to a more muslim france the government has taken steps to reinforce secularism. among them a ban on face coverings, such as those traditional for many devote
women. hundreds of muslims entrap a suburb rioting for three days after police tried to check the identity of a muslim woman who was wearing a full face covering in public. islam and violence in the headlines again. muslim leaders quickly condemned the paris attack even before police could answer basic questions about what happened. but once again for french muslims, a barbaric and sub versive version of their faith will be part of the explanation. jonathan mann cnn. >> and next here on cnn, journalists around the world are mourning their colleagues slain in paris. we'll speak to one coming up.
>> you're watching cnn's continuing coverage of the terror attack in paris. the french interior minister tells afp seven people have been detained in the overnight hours, as it's related to the investigation into wednesday's shooting. but two suspects remain on the loose. france's prime minister tells afp that brothers cherif and saeed kouachi was known to intelligence services and were no doubt being followed before the attack. police say they found an i.d. document that one of them left behind. so let's turn now to paris deputy mayor patrick klugman
with his perspective on the killings. he joins us now on the phone from paris. thank you, sir, for talking with us. i wonder if we could start first by asking you, we have been watching a large number of emergency vehicles at the scene there in a southern paris suburb. can you tell us at this point, or confirm whether that's connected in any way to the deadly shootings that took place at the magazine? >> well, we don't know at this moment if there's any connection with what happened yesterday morning at charlie"charlie hebdo"." for sure there was a shooting one individual has been arrested in this suburb. there were quite a large shooting that occurred this morning. the suspect individual flew in the subway and was arrested later on. but we don't know if there's any connection. you know in the past weeks in
paris and elsewhere in france there have been several attacks, like muslim attacks on policemen, already perpetrated. so it's far too early to speak about any connection related to the attack on "charlie hebdo." >> this is errol barnett here. what can you tell us about what is different about today? we're about 24 hours from when this horrific attack took place. what's different for you and the people that you represent? >> well to be very clear, it's morning in france and in paris, and it's very unusual. i don't know. i cannot remember such a day, maybe since 9/11. and 9/11 of course occurred in new york city not in paris.
so everybody public building today has the flag down. i don't know how to say it correctly, i'm sorry. but there are no -- all the ceremonies and festivities have been canceled. a lot of events have been delayed. so that the country is really like in a kind of shutdown. of course in respect and memory of the 12 people killed yesterday. tomorrow the city of paris will have -- we will rise. the newspaper "charlie hebdo" as a citizen of honor in our city. it will be the very first time where not an individual but a newspaper or company will be as a citizen of honor. that means that "charlie hebdo" will continue and that we
protects its ideas and values -- >> patrick klugman, thank you very much. we just want to connect now with the interior minister who, as we watch there live just turned away from camera after making comments he's at the location in this southern paris suburb where there has been a shooting and one individual i believe there's been one arrest. but we don't know if this is connected in any way to the horrific terror attack from 24 hours ago. the deputy mayor is still on the line -- unfortunately, no he's not with us. so there's a lot of unanswered questions at this early stage. a new day in france, in paris, as people wake up to what you might call a new reality. but parissians resisting that but you can't deny the fear once again. >> we don't know if it's connected, but there are an
incredibly large number of emergency vehicles on the scene and of course it was very difficult for the mayor to confirm whether or not there was any link. but this is why we're very interested in this particular story and of course the mayor confirmed to us that one individual had been arrested. we'll continue to cover that. >> as soon as we get that sound from the interior minister we'll show that. >> exactly. well journalists around the world are mourning their colleagues slain in paris. natalie is one such journalist and currently she's a affairs commentator with the gardian and former executive editor with a french newspaper le mond. i think journalists all over the world, horrified by this shooting and horrified by the events that have occurred. what is extraordinary is the unity we're seeing and the solidarity we're seeing particularly in paris and of course france but beyond there,
across europe and indeed across the world. what are your views as a journalist as you watch this unfold? and of course the dangers that are ahead for so many journalists who put themselves at risk because they dare to speak freely. >> i think any journalist can only see this tragic event as an attack on the very essence, the very heart of our profession. and the very values that independent journalists try to carry as they carry out their work and their jobs. there were traumatic episodes of journalists being attacked in recent times. we saw journalists being beheaded kidnapped. but this always happened from a european perspective, in a far-away region in war zones. and now we see what we've seen
yesterday was an attack in the very heart of the european capital, in the very center of paris. this is of course traumatic. there is an outpouring of solidarity for "charlie hebdo"." i'm french i worked as a journalist in the international arena and i think it's essential there's mobilization not only in france but in europe for "charlie hebdo" to survive. the symbol is despite this dreadful attack it must continue to publish cartoons and that provocative type of comment which is guarantee, as it exists that freedom of speech is being protected. >> the problem is that so many of those people at the magazine were cut down. i mean they were slaughtered in this shooting. that is the big problem here. but, of course what is extraordinary is that this turning point, what appears to be a turning point.
i'd be interested if you agree with that where people and particularly this sense that people don't want to see some turning toward muslims and accusing them en masse of this. they want to recognize the fact that this is a small group, a very small group. this does not represent all muslims across the globe. and that seems to be a very clear message that those marchers who are getting out on the streets in paris and across france and beyond. they want to send that message. we saw it in australia as well with the hash tag, i'll ride with you. we seem to be seeing that same sentiment, where people are going, enough is enough. but what are your thoughts on that? >> i think that's a very key question right now. you have seen all the calls for national unity. the french president, the prime minister many politicians, many intellectuals, are calling for french national unity. getting over differences, cultural religious, economic
social differences. but of course questions are also being asked as to how france actually integrates its large muslim minority. it's a minority but it's the largest muslim population in europe. and this question in a context where radical salafi islam, radicalization of certain muslim youth in france has been happening over the years. it's also a very strong minority. it's an acute minority but it is happening. and this question is not just french. it is european. there are jihadi networks in europe and the question of how europeans, how french people come together and overcome these cultural differences, the question of how islam as a religion is perceived, its role
in society. these questions are going to come to the fore. and also socio-economic questions. france has high youth unemployment. and a lot of this unemployment is something that muslim youths are suffering from and mostly muslim youths that live in suburbs where they feel left on the sides of french society. there's also very strong discrimination in the workforce against children of immigration in france. these are issues that france is now going to be beyond just a day of mourning. today of course is a day of national mourning. but these issues that we've mentioned are going to come to the fore in the coming days and weeks. there's going to be a lot of gazing at france's society. >> natalie, thanks so much for talking with us. as we were speaking we just got the information that france's interior minister who you saw speaking earlier, what he was
saying when he was talking to the press there, was that the man who shot the policeman is still on the run. we'd heard from the mayor that one individual had been arrested. so we still don't really know what we're dealing with here. but we're looking at these live pictures from a suburb in southern paris, a lot of emergency vehicles there on the scene. of course we've learned now, one individual arrested but the gunman -- >> well the interior minister apparently just saying that one person who shot at police is still loose. >> is on the run. >> we'll have more on this. stay with our coverage. "early start" is after this very short break.
the breaking news this morning, two terrorists on the run. wanted in the deadly attack of the french satirical magazine. a third man turning himself in overnight. he is being questioned with several others. right now, france is in mourning. the terror alert raised. we have the latest. our live team coverage starts now. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. welcome to our viewers. >> several people are now in custody in the worst terror attack in f