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hello i'm wolf blitzer, 1:00 p.m. in washington 7:00 p.m. in paris. thanks for joining us. we start with a manhunt for the two men accused of carrying out the brazen daylight attack on the french sat tire magazine charlie hebdo. 12 people were killed at least four others remain in serious condition. the men are brothers cherif and said kouachi, a third suspect, an 18-year-old believed to be a family member as well turned himself in. meanwhile, police are investigating a robbery at a gas station in northern france an attendant there reportedly says it was carried out by the charlie hebdo suspects and that they stole gas and food. police haven't confirmed that it
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was, in fact the brothers but they have upped the threat level of the region increased the police presence very visibly. there was also another shooting at paris today that had similar eerie similarities to yesterday's killings. a french policewoman was gunned down by a man wearing all black like the magazine shooters. it has been ruled a terror attack by the french police and french government but officials say they found at least not yet any direct link to yesterday's attack. they're investigating. also several people have been detained in connection with the two brothers but there are no details on possible links to the actual murders. the next edition of the magazine charlie hebdo will be published next wednesday on schedule. one of the magazine's writers told a cnn affiliate i'm quoting him now, we can't let them win. police got their break on the identity of the suspects after finding an i.d. card in one of the abandoned
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getaway cars. let's get more now on the suspects, the flurry of police activity in northern france. jim sciutto followed the investigation, joining us from paris. atika shubert joining us from the northern part of france where this gas station is. atika, what's going on where you are? update us on the very latest? >> earlier i was at that gas station, that's about 12 kilometers from where i'm standing now. where i'm at now is off the n 2 highway, four kilometers from the village of longpont where we have seens the heaviest police presence. you can probably see the flashing signal of a police car there. this is the closest they'll allow us to get. this is a very rural area, a lot of open fields, but also a heavily forested area. we have seen earlier in the day helicopters circling a number of heavily armed police teams actually go down that road towards longpont so it does seem to be the area they are focusing their search. they haven't given us any confirmation as to why they seem
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to be focused on this area but it does seem to be where the center of the manhunt is ongoing, wolf. >> and right now, these two suspects let's be clear, they are on the loose, they're at large. the manhunt continuing. but these two guys are still hiding out some place? >> so far as we know. the possibility is that they could be inside that forest. if that is the case we're talking about an area that's thousands of acres wide. if that -- it will take a long time for police to comb through it. we haven't seen helicopters at night with spotlights looking lieu that area yet but we can assume police are trying to close the net in on them and hoping they're not going to escape. >> stand by. jim sciutto in paris for us. i know the french authorities, counterterrorism authorities, intelligence authorities are familiar with these brothers. tell us what we've learned about
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them. >> wolf the sad fact is that these brothers were both known to police and at least one of them had been in the past monitored by police. that's the younger brother cherif kouachi. when you red his rap sheet it's fairly alarming. arrested and jailed in 2008 for attempting to recruit fighters to join the fight in iraq and in 2005 he was stopped at the border attempting to travel to syria to go on to iraq himself to join the fight there against the u.s. occupation. that is just one brother. his other brother less known to the police but he was also arrested in 2010 or investigated in 2010 for the possibility of being involved in a jail break and it is his identification card left behind in a car abandoned by the attackers carried out on the street behind me that helped lead investigators to the two brothers. the police did know about them and had one of them the younger brother, 32-year-old cherif
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kouachi, under surveillance in the past but that surveillance had stopped. >> we're going to be learning a lot more about these two suspects in the coming hours. i want you to stand by. the paris terror attack certainly has the united states reevaluating its own high priority targets. pamela brown has new information. what are officials here in the u.s. telling you, pam? >> in the wake of these paris attacks, the fbi, dhs and intelligence agencies are skruk their data bases and evaluating high priority targets living here in the u.s. the high priority targets include foreign fighters who u.s. officials believe have returned to the u.s. after fighting in syria and intelligence officials believe more than a dozens u.s. citizens have returned to america after fighting in syria. so right now, wolf u.s. officials are currently evaluating whether any of these tier 1 targets in the u.s. have any linkses to the suspects in paris. they're also evaluating whether they should take any action against these high priority targets contacting them
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directly. whenever you're investigating someone, you don't want to tip them off that you are investigating them that they are under surveillance but in certain cases the sources we've been speaking with say you may decide to do an interview with them and give them a head's up they are on your radar to stop an imminent threat let them know you are watching if they are in the midst of doing something. u.s. law enforcement intelligence officials are awaiting for more information on the subjects in paris and the two recent terrorist attacks against a police officer today in charlie hebdo before moving forward with anything. wolf? >> all right. thanks very much pamela brown with that update. more now on the search, the suspects the reaction to this terror attack. joining us here our law enforcement analyst tom fuentes, former assistant director of the fbi and national security analyst peter bergen. tom, how is it possible these guys apparently carrying out a sophisticated operation in the abandoned car, they find the i.d. of one of these two terrorist suspects some. >> well that's the dilemma
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here. either they're so stupid that they left an i.d. accidentally in the getaway car or they're so sew fes cated they wanted to leave a calling card, we did this come get us and maybe they have a bigger gun battle planned for when the police close in on them at another location. during this attack they only encountered a couple police officers. killing them. of course. but maybe they want to kill mores officers and have a big blaze of glory type battle. >> in the process commit suicide? >> probably. >> probably. take more people with them than just the people at the magazine. >> does that make sense to you? you study terrorism for a long time? >> we saw that in boston where one of the tamerlan went out in a blaze of glory in a fire fight with the police and dzhokhar was wounded and we saw that in madrid tom and i talked about this after the madrid attack 194 people dead, the perpetrators holed themselves up in a house and blew themselves
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and took more people with them. that's a completely plausible -- >> this what is law enforcement in france have to worry about this kind of maybe being lured into some place where there could be a lot of bombs or whatever and a whole bunch more police officers get killed in the process. >> sure. >> i'm sure they're concerned about that. the whole notion of why these two guys weren't under surveillance how they could get around without being watched. they were clearly identified years earlier as potential terrorists. >> that's the sad fact. memo to congress to the president, no one in the u.s. government canadian government or any european governments have enough to follow anybody that's come up on their radar as they say. there's thousands. our terrorist watch list in the u.s. has 800,000 people on it. not enough police officers and i ran fbi surveillance operations in chicago years ago, and when we were following gangsters around it would take a squad, the entire squad, and all of our
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pilots to follow one person 24/7. it's just not possible. >> and there's these reports, "usa today," one of these reports suggesting that maybe they had been to syria and returned from syria. >> we're confirming that as jim sciutto said this guy, cherif he was part of the foreign fighter network that was getting people into iraq. he was going to go to syria. even if the "usa today" report isn't true he was part of the next nextus of people being recruited in iraq isis and the al qaeda affiliate in syria. he's already plugged into that network even if the report that he went to syria recently isn't being confirmed yet. >> want both of you to stand by. more to assess on what's going on. stay with us. also joining us congressman adam schiff of the house intelligence committee talking about what he knows. he's been briefed on who these individuals are. stay with us for that.
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lone wolf attacks a new wave of terror? is this a lone wolf attack or was this a sophisticated cell coordinated by a terror operation? we're taking as closer look at that. one of the suspected gunmen may be getting help from al qaeda. stay with us.
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we're getting new details on the paris terrorist attack. jim sciutto in pairs ris joining us once again. you're learning more information. what else are you learning jim? >> that's right, wolf. this gets to the question of how did french police and authorities have at least one of these gunman under surveillance and lose track of them. i spoke to the former head, senior official in the french
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counter terrorism unit. he said in the simplest terms, quoting him, too many of them too few of us. he went on to give details of what's required for surveillance. three to ten agents per individual 24/7 and right now france has some 5,000 suspected jihadis on their terror list. do the math there, talking quickly about tens of thousands of agent was would be occupied and they don't have that manpower as the former head of counterterrorism said an he said a particular challenge, wolf is when they go off radar, when they go silent which he said happened with cherif kouachi, after 2008 after he served time ins prison for attempting to recruit fighters to go to iraq, he went quiet, became less of a priority other priorities and then lo and behold he comes up again with the attack that took place behind me here. that's the challenge they have and gets to, you know the bottom line here is they did have him under surveillance lost contact, lost track of him, but they're saying it's impossible for them to keep track of all the thousands of
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suspected jihadis they have in france including a thousand suspected fighters that are now in syria and iraq. >> give us a little flavor i know you've only been there a few hours, you were here in washington with us yesterday, jim, give us a flavor of what you've seen in paris since getting there? how tense is the situation or maybe not so tense? >> the moment we landed we went up to the area northeast of the city where they believe that these fighters are now holed up around that forest between two small towns about 45 minutes from here. the police presence was everywhere every corner you turned you saw them above our heads we saw the helicopters flying. we also get the sense while they have a general idea where they are, they don't have a specific idea. attention will be on one town in one town this morning, and then moved to another town now focused on the forest area. they have an idea but don't know for sure. it's difficult as u.s. counter terror and police and
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authorities know it's difficult to find one or two men in a big country. there are lots of places to hide and that's a challenge they're facing right now. >> certainly is. we're going to get back to you. jim sciutto on the ground in paris. bring back our panel, joining us, our senior international correspondent nic robertton and our law enforcement analyst tom fuentes and peter bergp ppenbergpen. you've covered these stories a long time. what's your initial gut instinct tell you, all of a sudden today, a separate terror attack a guy dressed in all black, his face covered, same ak-47, kills a policewoman in a southern suburb of paris. we don't know if it's just coincidental, copy cat or ifs there's a connection to what happened at the magazine yesterday but it's worrisome. >> it is. not unusual for one major attack to trigger perhaps not so much you might not call it copycat if you will because they might try to do something different, but
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an inspirational attack somebody on the fence listening to the sort of isis propaganda listening to the calls for them to do something, drive a car into a crowd, attack a police station, we've seen several of those in the recent months in france as well. someone who has been sitting on the fence, see this in paris and say that's it i've got to do it act, be up there as well and go out and do it. intelligence not just in france but across europe will be ready for that. the issue jim is talking about there of how stretched counterterrorism forces are in the u.k., for example, just before christmas in the months leading up to christmas the chief commissioner, police commissioner for the metropolitan police in charge of counterterrorism in london and his deputy both said that they felt that they were short of the number of people that they need to oversee the scale of the terror threat posed by all these people returning. that it's a political issue, that it needs to be addressed. this is what terrorism officials
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in europe live in fear of and they will be right now -- or live if concern. they've got their plans, they're ready, but will be concerned about the potential for copycats or inspirational attack wolf. >> what's worrisome, peter bergen. while various terror groups have applauded what happened at the magazine i don't think anyone has directly claimed responsibility yet, is that right? >> that's kind of puzzling. because typically you would, you know, expect a claim of responsibility a credible claim, at some point soop. we are only 24 hours plus away from the actual event. maybe we will get one. >> usually they do it fairly quickly, right. the process, release a video of one or both of these guys. i assume we were speculating earlier, maybe the guys want to go out in a blaze of glory, maybe they've already recorded video that would be released afterwards that's what's
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happened often in the past? >> that has happened often in the past. think about al qaeda in the arabian peninsula when they failed to blow up flight 253 in detroit over christmas day they claim out with a claim of responsibility within about 36 hours. so i mean it's not normally immediate, but it's within a relatively short time frame. >> the fbi i'm sure is working very closely, tom, with the authorities in france right? >> yeah. i would like to say the cooperation with the french a authorities and the fbi, has been tremendous going back preceding 9/11 when there was an attack plot uncovered in the summer of 2001 to blow up the u.s. embassy in paris. and that plot involved seven al qaeda -- seven cells of al qaeda in seven countries in europe plus a cell in dubai and that plot was thwarted the week of 9/11. it didn't get any publicity here when those guys were arrested because we were covering 9/11 which did happen. that cooperation. france i would like to say, was the first country in europe to
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provide the fbi with passenger lists of inbound flights before any other country did it. they have been cooperative with the u.s. government and in particular with the fbi, the fbi's office in paris, for more than a decade. >> very close collaboration. nick i know that the video we've seen of what happened at the magazine yesterday is so compelling but i'm also told there's a whole lot of other closed circuit tv video authorities are going through right now trying to find some more clues. you're there in europe. paris, like london like other major cities in europe they are totally wired, aren't they with video cameras? >> yeah. one of the issues, though with video cameras you need people to watch them if you're going to prevent something in real time. the u.k. perhaps has the highest number of surveillance cameras than any other city any other country in europe. but where they do come in if you don't have enough people watching them to prevent an incident like this certainly
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you can use it as in a chain of evidence afterwards. the material would be useful in a court case if these people can be brought to court. it's certainly going to be useful in terms of figuring out exactly how they got in the building and some of the details of precisely what they did to try to thwart this sort of attack in the future. in terms of, you know trying to figure out where they are right now, closed-circuit television footage that may have come from the garage where they apparently robbed it, stealingrs gas, food, provide clues, has any of these men been injured, exhibiting weakness in any way. they will provide useful clues. what the police need to know and intelligence authorities, where are these men, and how do they contain them? the closed circuit footage that would have been gained around the attack is not going to be too beneficial there, wolf. >> i'm sure they're going through a lot of video. probably a ton of video out there. all right. guys thanks very much.
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we're getting important new information on the u.s. response to the terror attack in paris. let's go to our justice reporter evan perez. what have you learned? >> we're hearing that the attorney general eric holder is traveling to paris this sunday for a ministerle level meeting discussing not only this terror attack in paris, but also the greater problem, the larger problem, of foreign fighters and how to deal with them. this is something that has been at the top of the agenda for attorney general eric holder. he's gone to paris, done meetings with european counterparts in the last few months. he's hosted them in washington. again, in the last couple months. the big thing is, the europeans have a lot of concerns about privacy, wolf. as you know that's always one of the reasons why they don't share
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as much information as the u.s. would like them to do. now we're going to see perhaps at this meeting on sunday if some of that attitude changes in light of what has happened here because we do know that a couple of these -- well these two suspects were under some type of surveillance by the french authorities. the u.s. was aware of this but the question is whether more could have been done maybe more could have been shared to prevent any of this from happening. wolf you know we know that after the attacks, on the canadian parliament in ottawa a few months ago, the canadians also changed some of their reluctance on sharing information with the united states again over the same privacy concern. this is something that gets raised on how to deal with the foreign fighter problem. >> evan perez, reporting the news that the attorney general of the united states will be heading to paris this weekend for high-level meetings over
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there. thanks evan. french authorities have extended their highest alert level to northern france in the massive manhunt under way for the two terror suspects. earlier authorities cordoned off a gas station in search of the two brothers. they've -- they're wanted in a massacre that killed 12 people at a french satire magazine charlie hebdo. an attendant reportedly says the suspects stole food and gas from the station. for more on the attack and the suspects,s let's bring in our analyst, retired lieutenant general mark hurtling. there are concerns as you know that the attack in paris is part of a new phase in the war on terror. shift away from maybe the really spectacular 9/11 type attacks, but clearly more significant than a lone wolf kind of attack. what are your thoughts? >> i think any time we deal with a terrorist organization we're dealing especiallyist what we've -- especially with what we've seen over the last ten years or so a very adaptive
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organization. over the last 10 to 12 years defeated the corporate structure of al qaeda, but that doesn't mean we've destroyed al qaeda at large. there is the possibility of these attacks continuing in the future the large-scale attacks like we saw in 9/11 that's a little bit tougher, but i think as we see the combination of lone wolf attacks which don't fall under the strategy sometimes of what al qaeda wants to do versus something like this apparent they wanted to take down the offices of charlie hebdo, there's a mix and match bag of what you can do from the standpoint of the enemy to reach your strategy and that's what we're seeing. >> these kind of attacks, the ones we saw yesterday in paris, they're difficult to predict and very difficult to prevent, right sp. >> it is. we're seeing all the results of that right now as tom said a minute ago, 800,000 potential attackers in the united states. how do you watch all of them? you have to wait to see which
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ones bubble up to the top. in this case you also reported one of the attackers was on the radar screen and then fell off. what do you do about that? you can't watch everybody all the time so you have to take the most extreme threat and make sure you're covering that. that doesn't account for everyone. so the predictability of these kind of attacks is extremely difficult. >> what was the number you just said about how many people are out there potentially capable of committing a terror attack in the united states? >> well i think -- i heard tom say 800,000 and that's from be fbi files. i'm not familiar with that. it was shocking number to me but i know there's quite a few of them that people are watching for criminal activity terrorist attacks, some type of crime. so all of those things stress law enforcement incredibly and it's tough to watch these kind of operations. >> one of the suspects the two brothers the 32-year-old cherif kouachi, was convicted of being
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part of a jihadist recruitment ring in paris that sent fighters to iraq. how significant is that? he spent time in jail he got off early, but it looks like he was potentially at least getting some help from al qaeda? >> it could be significant, wolf. i think if you can -- if we can apprehend this individual we could certainly gain a whole lot of intelligence about cell networks within france within paris. we might be able to see the mule network of taking jihadis in and out of syria and iraq might be able to identify other members of the network of the cell of the organization but truthfully i don't think we're going to -- the police national in france are not going to capture this guy alive. that's my prediction. he's going to try to kill as many people as possible and i think that's why the french police are now doing the kind of tactics they're using to make sure you're not only cordoning
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off an area but being very careful about an entire surrounding area to make sure there aren't things like roadside bombs, suicide vests, other members of cells that might contribute to the attack. you know you take a real transformation between simple police tactics and incorporate some military tactics and that's difficult to do in these kind of situations. these are not criminals we're dealing with. these are terrorists. >> so what i hear you saying and tom fuentes was speculating about this as well these guys may be ready to commit suicide rather than being apprehended and going to jail? >> i think that's a very high probability and it's the thing that concerns me the most. they might be trapped in an area and when these kind of individuals get trapped as we've seen in combat and had many high value targets we've gone after and it caused us as commanders to be very careful sending troops in you have to make sure that individual is not going to plant bombs around the area is
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not going to have a suicide vest on himself so when you open the door to a arrest him, suddenly you not only have no suspect anymore, but you also have several dead law enforcement or military soldiers. it's very challenging. this isn't just a knock on the door go in and arrest somebody. the french national police are going to have to be very careful because i'm convinced these individuals want to kill more people. >> and you heard tom fuentes our law enforcement analyst say, there is concern, all of a sudden this guy, one of the brothers i.d. was left in the abandoned vehicle. how did that happen? was that deliberate? was that just a blunder? we're going to continue to watch what's going on. general, thanks very much for joining us. as we've seen from the video the paris attacks were well orchestrated but no group at least yet has claimed public responsibility. just ahead a senior member of the house intelligence committee, congressman adam schiff standing by to join us.
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washington. nerves are clearly on edge right now as security is very tight in france as police launch a massive drag net to try to catch two brothers wanted in the deadly terror attack on the paris headquarters of the satirical pag zone charlie hebdo. joining us now from capitol hill democratic congressman a adam schiff of california senior member of the house intelligence committee. thanks for joining us. what are you learning because i know you're well plugged in getting briefed, what are you learning about these two suspects? can you share some details with us? >> i don't know if i cap share details but i can tell you we did get briefed again today. we have information about the two brothers some preliminary information about possible affiliations and i can say this also wolf that is you look at some of the public reporting, one of the witnesses claimed that one of the assailants said he was associated with aqa pf that turns out to be correct it represents a very serious
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diversification of the tactics used by aqap. they put a lot of focus, for example, on bomb making on trying to develop new ways to smuggle explosives on aircraft. this will be a very different kind of attack. obviously we like to find out whether there is an aqap association and if so whether they were instructed to undertake the attack in this way or something they decided to do really because they were inspired by aqap. or sp other -- some other organization. >> aqap al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, that's the branch in yemen right now. and you say there's no previous experience of aqap al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, actually recruiting individuals to go back to their home countries and commit a terror attack as the one we saw yesterday? >> no, no no. quite the opposite. they have tried to recruit people and have encouraged people to go back to the countries of origin. most of the focus, the predominant risk to the united states and europe has been in
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the effort to smuggle explosives on aircrafts. they have some of the preeminent bomb makers in the world. we haven't seen them successfully recruit people for kind of a military-style assault like this in europe or the united states thankfully so this would be a different kind of a terrorist attack for aqap. different in its degree of sophistication an success but for some time they have been interested in recruiting westerners and sending them back for attacks like this. >> we also know that these two brothers at least one of them spent some time in jail. do you know whether, in fact they both or one of them was in syria or iraq or yemen or some place else and got specific training? >> you know i don't think we know definitively yet whether either of the brothers traveled to syria or yemen. that's obviously something that we're desperately eager to find out. i'm confident we will get to the
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bottom of that in fairly short order. obviously if that's the case, it would be some of our worst fears materialized about foreign fighters coming home. we saw that in the attack in belgium belgium. that's something of keen interest to all of us particularly when you consider that they do appear to have some kind of military training. and the question is where did they get that? and if, indeed they were able to train themselves purely domestically within france that would be a different kind of a concern. >> do you know if this terror attack against this policewoman in southern suburb of paris today is linked to what happened yesterday? >> you know i don't know definitively whether there's a link or not and, of course even if none of the same players were involved in that attack it could be a situation where someone was inspired to commit that kind of murderous violence against a police officer as a result of what happened within 24 hours earlier. so there may be a connection even if the two are not related
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to each other directly. >> cnn has been reporting that the fbi, the department of homeland security varess you ss various intelligence agencies have been scrubbing their data bases, evaluating high priority targets in the united states in light of the attack in paris. what can you tell us about that? >> well i think that's right. we're scouring our intelligence for a couple purposes. certainly to see what we know about all of the suspects that the french have alerted us to whether there's some intel we have that we can provide to the french that might assist them in finding other coconspirators that may be out there, that's the most immediate priority for france but for us as well we want to look and see who our potential candidates for this kind of a homegrown attack if it's homegrown, who are some of these. we've talked about lone wolves. these are known wolves. the czar nay yevs were known, brothers in france were known some of the assailants in canada
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and australia were known. we may be looking for those on our radar screen but where we want to, you know bring our attention back to make sure that we're not subject to an attack like we saw in paris. >> any indication u.s. is getting ready to raise its threat level? >> i haven't seen any indication of that. that won't take place unless we get very specific intelligence about a threat to the country. the fact that there's been a successful terror attack somewhere else or even a terror attack in our own country unless it's -- there are indications that is part of a broader plot or specific, you know time place and manner indication of an attack i don't expect we'll see a change in the terror level. >> adam schiff democratic congressman from california member of the intelligence committee, thanks congressman, very much for joining us. >> thanks wolf. european leaders are responding to the terror attack in paris in words and deeds. you will see what action they're now taking to protect their citizens help catch the
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the terror attack in paris is having a chilling effect across europe. as countries beef up their own security to foil any potential copycat attacks and prevent the two suspects from potentially slipping over the french border. cnn's max foster reports from
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london. >> reporter: if it can happen in paris it can happen anywhere and that's why it feels like this was an attack on europe. not just france. >> translator: how much cruelty is man capable? we pray in this mass for the victims of this cruelty. so many of them we pray also for the perpetrators of such cruelty that the lord might change their heart. >> reporter: what has happened in paris is an appalling terrorist outrage and i know that everyone in britain will want to stand with the french government and french people at this time. >> translator: it is a barbaric attack against the value we share. all of us that live in europe condemn these attacks >> translator: it is not possible to let terrorism win the challenge against freedom and reason. >> reporter: governments across europe expressing sympathy for what happened in france but also assessing what it means to them. could a similar attack happen
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here in the united kingdom, for example? security has been tightened at british ports and for passengers coming in on trains from france. while spain has heighted its general terror threat level. europeans reacted passionately spontaneously, in defiance. vigils in support of those who died but also for that ultimately french value, of liberty. >> they should know they will not be able to succeed by killing us killing someone, for drawing, for writing, for expressing an opinion. >> i'm angry tonight, really angry, and shocked and confused. >> reporter: in london there's no intelligence to suggest an imminent threat. >> the public will be aware the threat level has been at a heightened level for some time the level we call severe and consequently we've already had for months heightened security
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measures in place. >> reporter: allowing a moment of remembrance for french police who died in the face of the continent's worst fear terror. >> max is joining us live from london. as the attack in paris i suspect it has it's really fueling the already tense debate surrounding europe's immigration policies, right? >> over the has year we've had european elections, national elections in sweden, for example, where you're seeing the far right doing extremely well in sweden. they got 10% of the vote. it's a traditional -- traditionally socialist, liberal culture. you got a similar story happening in france here in the u.k. you've got u.k. independence party. so what these terror attacks do is inflate the racism within that debate that anti-immigration debate. it's confusing because what you've got in france is home groene french terrorists. they were born in france of algerian ethnicity, that was it.
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people are confused by this but it does fuel this quite dangerous, provocative debate in british politics european politics, french politics and i think that's increasingly going to be the trend now. >> you make a good point. a terror attack in paris was an attack that everyone in europe resonates with and it certainly has had a huge, huge impact over these past few hours. max, thanks very much. support is clearly pouring in from around the world for those affected by the attack on the magazine charlie hebdo. if you want to know more about ways to get involved go to worldwide support for the targeted magazine sprang up quickly. so did concern among journalists. those reactions and more, that's coming up next. ♪
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police in france still looking for the two men who stormed the "charlie hebdo"
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headquarters in paris on wednesday killing 12 injuring 11. among those killed some of france's most well known cartoonists including the magazine's outspoken editor stephane charbonnier and four other cartoonists known as kabu tignous and wolinski. fellow journalists and cartoonists set out to honor them and stand up with the best weapons they have which would be their pens. >> break one and thousand will rise and this tweet with the hashtag i am charlie and this one from david pope. his image with three simple words. he drew first. that image has now gone viral. let's bring in our senior media correspondent brian stelter, host of cnn's "reliable sources." brian, these are very moving tributes to those who died but it's really escalating isn't
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it? it's growing by the hour. >> it is. it's very rare to see so many journalists, so many groups so many organizations all unite. journalists tend to be a competitive bunch. lots of rivalries out there around the world. we've seen 35 journalism organizations of all kinds come together to support "charlie hebdo" and we'll see more of this as the magazine plans on publishing an issue next week. there's already financial support being pledged. there's a french fund supported by google that's said it will step up and others to help get this magazine out to the public next week. >> cartoonists weren't the only ones playing tribute to the victims. journalists around the world took to social media to show their solidarity. many newsrooms pausing for a moment of silence. these are powerful moments. >> i was pulling up a statement for reporters without borders.
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they say we will continue our fight for freedom and tolerance. we'll do it for journalists that have died and those that have fallen in defense of these fundamental values. we saw the comedian come on stage with a "charlie hebdo" shirt. we've seen those messages as well. not just from journalists and cartoonists but from comedians since we're talking about among those dead several very well known cartoonists who told stories and who conducted acts of journalism through the images they produced. >> are media outlets organizations here in the united states and elsewhere around the world taking extra security measures in the aftermath of the terror attack in paris? >> there has been some of that. very little publicly said about it. for understandable reasons. these outlets that do want to take stepped up security measures don't want to reveal what they are doing. there was security outside this magazine's office. we know that because we heard about the police officers who were tragically killed
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yesterday. there are other outlets that are taking those sorts of steps but like i said not talking in much detail about them. >> that's totally understandable. i know that there is concern out there understandably. what happens next? >> when i saw -- i saw on the front page of "the wall street journal" this morning, one of the biggest headlines is we're not afraid. they are quoting someone saying that. i interpret that headline to mean something more. it's a moment where a lot of different journalism groups and cartoonists and producers think about safety measures they take and want to make a statement that they're not afraid. >> the magazine the new issue, will come out next wednesday. normally they have only 30,000 circulation relatively small. i heard one number they may print a million copies. is that right? >> that's what's come out today. the lawyer for the publication said that's the goal. a million copies. you wonder how are they going to afford that and that's why these pledges of financial support are going to be so important. they won't be able to produce it
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from their offices. this is the kind of thing we'll see some rivals some other magazines and newspapers in paris step up and help them get it published. >> all right, brian. thanks very much. brian stelter reporting for us. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." for our international viewers, "amanpour" is coming up next. for our viewers in north america, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin will start right after a very quick break. online is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit today. sir, we're loaded and getting ready to go... ...we're going to need you on the runway. (vo) don't let a severe cold hold you back. sir? (vo) theraflu starts to get to work in your body in just 5 minutes. (vo) theraflu breaks you free from your worst cold and flu symptoms.
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hi there. i'm brooke baldwin. this is cnn's special live coverage. right now we are of course here at cnn following the breaking news. nine people now are in custody in connection to the slaughter of a dozen journalists, cartoonists and police at the offices of the french satirical magazine charlie hebdo. as for two gunmen they are still at large. heavily armed police are now on a country road 65 northeast of paris and another rural location. the belief now is that they are closing in honing in on these two suspects one day after this mass killing in downtown paris. but first a special moment in this city. you see the lights on. the eiffel tower. beautiful here. just about 8:00 in paris at night. in seconds, it will go black. it will go dark to honor the victims of this massacre.
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let me pause and we'll watch together. we'll keep watching the eiffel tower. here we go. dark.