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the pope holds mass with a crowd numbering in the millions. we'll have more live from manila. the first time in decades, troops are deployed on the streets in belgium amid a heightened terror threat. live from brussels. and in niger, demonstrators tear up bibles and burn churches in the second day of protest against "charlie hebdo" magazine. finally, a look at a memorial for a native american warrior. it's been under construction since 1948 and it's far from finished. we want to welcome our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. i'm paula newton. millions of philippinos are still soaking in what for many will be a once in a lifetime experience of seeing pope francis in person. now, they spent the day
celebrating mass in nanila. the crowd wasn't as large as the 6 million expected. the rain may have kept some away. they received blessings from the catholic leader. pope francis repeated his appeal for children and the poor saying the world has to "learn to cry over their fate." she joins us live where i gather people are packing up and starting to disperse. the pope left the mass on his pope mobile and really tried to get as close as he could with the crowd. >> reporter: he did. he was kneeling down. he must have a buzzer i think. and he gets the driver to stop. picked up babies kissing babies. it really was quite beautiful. those moments that people just
do not forget. we have seen them throughout the days where the pope goes and wants to get as close to the people as possible. and he certainly did that again today. the rain has not stopped pouring. i think everyone was hoping for divine intervention. obviously, that is the tail end of the typhoon that hit the philippines yesterday. despite the rain the people turned out in the millions. the 6 million authorities were predicting doesn't look like they reached that papal milestone. back 20 years ago when pope john paul ii was here at this exact place delivering mass he managed to get 5 million people. they thought they would surpass that today. clearly mother nature wasn't cooperating. for the millions that did turn out, they were certainly not disappointed. we spoke to one parishioner who had been there since midnight
last night. i said is the weather not africaing you? he said not at all. our faith is waterproof. >> it pretty much had to be through all of this. the rain was incredible. you have been covering this several days and giving us goodin sights into some of the social issues the philippines is grappling with. what's your take away from all of this? will it be a watershed moment for the philippines? what is their takeaway from the pope's message, a very different message of humility? >> reporter: for sure it is a humility and looking out for the poor protecting the family. it was interesting here from manila they said take us with you. we will go to the slums. we will go wherever you need us to go. that is what pope francis wants the congregation to do. he wants them to be much more mindful of the poor in this country. remember 20% of filipinos live
below the poverty line. it is not necessarily trick willing down to the people who so desperately need it. pope francis, his message very much has been focusing on poverty, not forgetting those people and leaving them behind. the issues of divorce, contraception, same-sex marriage pope francis did not touch on those. he really talked about preserving the family unit which is very much in line with the doctrine of the catholic church. but i think his pastoral message is one of inclusiveness and acceptness. people who distanced themselves from the church it has sort of brought them back into the flock if you would like. because he is a tolerant pope an accepting pope. and he makes everybody feel like they belong.
>> and you talked to people who i know said to you we're going to find a place back in the church everyone if we don't agree with all the views of the church. thank you for all your reports from there as that mass is wrapping up in manila. thanks so much the weather, as we have been talking about several days now, has had a big impact on the philippines. a typhoon was a concern for much of the visit. thankfully that has passed. derrick, what can we still expect? as we have been looking at the pictures still pouring in manila. >> it's still pouring. i give it 45 minutes to an hour of rain left. just behind me on the satellite loop there's manila. there's the back edge of this -- what was a typhoon, now a tropical storm. still winds 65 kilometers per hour. that's really around the center of the storm currently located
off this island. there it is. the cloud cover will clear out of manila. a few isolated showers may be left over for the people starting to disembark from that particular area as they head home from the mass that was held earlier this afternoon. our forecasts, or at least current conditions showing mostly cloudy conditions near manila for their travels home. maybe an isolated shower. winds start to well improve i should say. and then look at that just in time to start off the workweek we have sunshine in this forecast. we're actually going to dry things out. maybe an isolated late day rain shower on monday. this is the backside of the storm, again, exiting. maybe a few showers left over. it will not last that long. it didn't seem to dampen the mood in manila. people just dawning their yellow and white raincoats. obviously they are the official colors of the vatican as well. now, this storm was responsible for pretty hefty rainfall
totals. take a look at this. where it actually made landfall in the island of samar, 268 millimeters of rainfall in a 24-hour peter. luzon, 254 millimeters. and up yards of 200 millimeters elsewhere. it's going to be picked up by a trough dropping out of china at the moment. and it's going to be picked up and swept out to sea. so not a concern going forward. here's the future cast as we go into the next 48 hours. you can see few remaining showers over the northern half of luzan. and we will see the sun coming up. maybe that's the divine intervention they're all seeking. >> i would say it came a little late. didn't get the record of the largest catholic mass in history. it seems despite a lot of rain it could have been worse with all the winds. we're thankful for that. thanks derek, for the update. security is being stepped up in the wake of last week's
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terrorism raid on suspected militants on thursday. ivan we have been trying to decipher exactly what the european arrests are all about. it's been very clear, they have been clear from the start, the authorities, that what is going on is not connected to the attacks in france. but what has them so worried at this point? >> reporter: well the belgian authorities say they foiled a plot an alleged plot to attack police officers here in belgium with that raid thursday night that led to a deadly gun battle resulting in the death office two suspects. since then they have been very careful to hold their cards very tightly and close to their chest. the federal prosecutors saying he doesn't want to endanger the investigation. so now it's been days since then. we >> tony: the names of the suspects who were killed or of any of the people who really have been taken into custody.
we just know that there are five belgian nationals here in belgium who are being charged with participation in a terrorist organization. three currently in belgian custody. two released under strict conditions. and this seems to be an investigation that has also crossed borders with two more belgian nationals who were arrested by french authorities as they were trying to cross the border from france to italy several days ago. and the belgians are also seeking extradition and charging them with that same charge of participation in a terrorist organization. within the several days since that initial police raid that resulted in that deadly gun battle we also know that the belgians have reached out to greece in a joint investigation of some sort though the greeks and the belgians are being very careful not to reveal whether
there are any links to the alleged plot against police officers here, whether this is tied together at all. but clearly the belgians are trying to move in a country that is facing a serious challenge. belgium per capita is believed to have more jihadis, more suspected jihadis that have gone to syria than any other country in europe. it's a problem they have had to crackdown on a radical group called sharia for belgium. that is believed to be a recruiting ground for these jihadis. paula? >> i'm curious how this is being greeted on the streets there. is there a measure of relief they feel there is protection from both police and soldiers or is there more fear?
they have had an attack in belgium, quite a difficult one. are they wondering what's next? >> reporter: you know one man i talked to yesterday, right next to some belgian soldiers who just been deployed to protect the grand mosque of europe here in brussels he said this is just cinema. this is just a show. and if you do consider the numbers of soldiers from the armed forces that are planned to be deployed by tuesday, according to the ministry of defense, it's only 300 soldiers. granted, it's the first time in more than 30 years that belgium has deployed troops on the streets. but the number is dwarfed by 10,000 soldiers that have been deployed across france since the "charlie hebdo" attacks. clearly the belgian is government is trying to show they are taking this seriously. and they see pressure that they need to act against some of
these alleged jihadi groups. for instance there's the report that within the last three days they've detained an 18-year-old who was planning to join isis in syria. as one belgian official told me one of the complications here is you can't arrest somebody strictly because they have expressed support for a group like isis. you have to prove that a suspect is planning to join a terrorist organization. and it's a fine line that the authorities have to use even though they have seen hundreds of belgian citizens travel to the middle east to join militant groups like isis. paula? >> certainly trying to treed the line with the laws there is another difficulty of this investigation as it goes forward. ivan watson, appreciate it. as fears grow about terror
links from yemen to the west yemen announced the detention of two french citizens as a brazen incident raises concerns about that nation's government. nick peyton walsh reports. >> reporter: you can't get much clearer picture how much of a failing state yemen is in the fact that the president's own chief of staff was kidnapped in the center of the capital center the city behind me from his car by armed men. now, swiftly followed a call for his release. hours later it became clear who was behind what they refer to as a detention. in the past months a large movement of militia have been sweeping across yemen. they moved into the capital, setting up checkpoints here. they said they were behind what they said was the detention of the chief of staff, citing concerns they felt the
presidential administration were trying to usher in a new movement here that they are not happy with. they refer to it as a sensitive situation. many sides concerned here. a decision to detain orchid nap from your point of view the chief of staff today is significantly going to escalate the conflict here inside yemen. and that will only make it easier for al qaeda to have a foot hold here or send attackers to the west. we heard more details about potential western links. one yemeny official close to the services said two frenchmen had been detained as they were trying to leave yemen. they were trying to offer support to al qaeda in the south of the country. many people still deeply concerned about links between jihadists and the attacks in the west and the country doing nothing to trying to calm those
fears. nick paton walsh, cnn. the "charlie hebdo" attack left 12 people died. he died in a drone strike in 2011. but his following and ability to inspire people to carry out attacks on the west remains as strong as ever. >> reporter: he is an american inspiring a generation of young men to take up arms and attack the west. >> i could not reconcile between living in the u.s. and being a muslim. >> reporter: an american whose ideology is powerful in death than it was in life. >> he is the most important english speaker in al qaeda's broader associated movement. his ideas outlive him. >> reporter: killed in a drone strike three years ago, he has inspired and planned the terror attacks but financed as well says one of the gunmen. >> i was sent me shareef to al
qaeda in yemen. i went there and the sheikh financed my trip. >> reporter: in the last decade al a lackey has been cited with two dozen terror plots, including inspiring the boston marathon bombers, and ft. hood shooter, instigating the underwear bomber and plotting operationally to take down a u.s.-bound british airliner. born in new mexico he spent his teen years in yemen and studied engineering at colorado state university on a $20,000 u.s. tax payer grant. in the mid-90s he moved to san diego and began preaching at a mosque. >> started making sermons. he was an american citizen. and his sermons were actually you know nothing wrong with them. >> reporter: a year before the 9/11 attacks, two of the hijackers showed up at his
mosque. he fled to yes, ma'am then 2002 never to return. but his words stayed behind. his deceptive polarizing message is that the west is trying to destroy islam. >> that's what they're doing today. they're plotting to kill this religion >> reporter: preaching it is incumbent on american speakers were away in yemen. he calls al awlaki a salesman with appeal. >> he translated the appeal but infused it with more emotion and made it speak to people on a more personalized and emotional way. finally, he encouraged do it yourself jihadism not only that but do it yourself propaganda >> reporter: propaganda that violent jihad will pay off. international criminal court has opened what it calls a preliminary examination of the situation in the palestinian
territories, including alleged crimes. this could lead to a full investigation into alleged war crimes against israelis or palestinians for last summer's gaza conflict. the palestinians became a member of the icc on april 1st at their own request. both israel and the u.s. oppose that move. >> israel rejects the absurd decision of the icc prosecutor. it's absurd for the icc to ignore international law and agreements under which the palestinians don't have a state and can only get one through direct negotiations with israel. the rules of the icc are clear. no state, no standing, no case. >> last summer's fighting left more than 2,000 people dead. most of them palestinians. a diplomatic storm is brewing after indonesia executed six people five of them foreign
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a three-day visit. they plan discuss how the two countries can normalize relations. president barack obama has ordered diplomatic ties with cuba be restored. food shelves are empty, lines are long and conflicting reports from government officials are making the situation more tense in venezuela. where is all the food in that south american country? >> reporter: a heated argument between a police officer and a shopper outside a store in the venezuelan capital of caracas, a scene increasingly becoming common at supermarkets across the south american country i've been looking for milk and laundry detergent for four days. all i could find was fabric softener. at a caracas supermarket, the line to buy food was several blocks long. people waited for hours under scorching sun for a chance to
buy the basics but there are no guarantees. in some places things have gotten out of hand. shoppers vandalized and looted a a supermarket. there was little police could do to stop them. about a dozen demonstrators were detained last weekend when protesting the shortages. the situation has become so tense that carlos a soreeo felt the need to address the issue publicly. our preliminary inventories show the minister said that we have enough supply for the next three to four months for all food products. venezuelan vice president says the shortages stems from what he calls an economic war waged against the venezuelan government by the opposition and foreign interests. it's the same claim made by president maduro who spent the last week on a tour of china and several oil-producing countries.
i asked president maduro what are you eating up there, asked this man. all we have down here is long lines. the venezuelan government publishes a scarcity index. the last time it was publish early last year it was nearly 30%, meaning 30 out of every 100 products are unavailable or scarce. on social media people say the situation is best explained with pictures showing supermarkets like this one with empty shelf after empty shelf. rafael ramos, cnn, atlanta. finances still reeling from a series of deadly terror attacks this month. coming up a french television show examines the roots of homegrown terrorism >> and the fight against ebola. e dullness lift sagging diminish the look of dark spots and smooth the appearance of wrinkles. high performance skincare™ only from roc®.
here's an update on the top stories we're following this hour. millions of people in manila celebrated sunday mass with pope francis in the park despite all that rainy weather. the crowd was smaller than expected though. initially there were to be 6 million. there were several thousand less than that. the pope asked the world to cry for the fate of suffering children. this is the pope's last full day in the philippines before returning to the vatican. police in greece conducted an investigation in connection with the counter terrorism raid on suspected militants on thursday. reports of arrests. however, the chief prosecutor says they are not directly related to the terror plot in his country and armed soldiers are
keeping watch over jewish sites, embassies and other potential terrorist targets. 150 troops have been deployed in brussels. the defense minister says these are the first military patrols on belgian streets in more than 35 years. and france which is still reeling from a series of terror attacks this month, has deployed more than 10,000 troops alongside thousands of police officers. senior international correspondent jim bitterman is in paris with the latest. ask and, jim, it's been several days since we have had major developments on the investigation. do we get a a sense here that police are becoming more comfortable, that they were what transpired? >> reporter: i think they're trying to know what transpired particularly in light of mr. coulibaly. he killed four people and went down in a blaze of gunfire against police as he tried to get out of it.
his course his path to that supermarket is now being backtracked by the officials here. about 48 hours ago they took into custody 12 people from his neighborhood and around his neighborhood where he grew up suspected of being accomplices of some sort. they have now released three of those people. three women. eight men and one woman are still being held and they will be held another 48 hours as police question them trying to figure out what their role is. there are at least two suspects left dna traces on weapons and in the car that was used by coulibaly. it is unclear exactly what the connections may be between all these people, but police are investigating that further. it's all part of this effort to try to figure out where this homegrown terror came from and what to do about it. and we have heard a lot of discussion a lot of debate the
last few days about what france can do to better handle this problem. it's a problem they know has been out there. they know it's been out there for years. but now it's reality and they want to see what they can do about it. one thing a lot of people are saying it depends a lot on education. >> for seven years the talk show on french tv has taken on important social issues like racism security and multiculturism. the title is all kinds of france." so after last week's bloody days of terror attacks, there is little doubt what this week's program would center on. in a special edition, the french egyptian host decided to show a film "my brother the terrorist." and after gathered teachers and students to debate what they
think is the solution to france's homegrown terrorism, education. >> how are we going to teach in a a different manner all the republican values liberty, equality and make citizens make responsible citizens today. because the assassins in the french republican school they learn in the french republican school. what happened to them? >> reporter: one of his guest calculated that the three terrorists involved in the shootings last week because they went through the french school system had been in class with 45 different school teachers. somewhere along the line they made the decision to reject those national values. >> translator: today there are 10,000 soldiers in the streets of france. but there are a million teachers. these 1 million teachers 1 million soldiers for tolerance, for liberty, and for the
republic. >> reporter: for both educators and students involved in the program the challenge seems to be coming up with the practical tool to give young people who increasingly come from diverse cultural and religious backgrounds, a reason to feel french first. he once did a program call shake, google and facebook. problems of discrimination and unemployment has become more and more difficult to inspire young people. >> you have to be very careful and very vigilant and understand why people decide to leave the french society, to leave their life. where is the dream and consider that going to syria and fighting and becoming jihadists is an adventure. so where is the adventure? where is the dream? >> reporter: those values that he talked about there are going to be at the center of the
debate that will be held here over the next few days. in a poll this morning, 40% of the french say they believe magazines like "charlie hebdo" shouldn't publish pictures of muhammad if they are provocative. and hundreds are in favor of restrictions on the internet if it helps police fight the terrorists. >> very complicated issue there with france still grappling with what happens next. appreciate it. one of the "charlie hebdo" attackers has been buried in an unmarked grave. the burial took place in the gunman's hometown in france. no family members were present except his wife. 12 people were attacked at "charlie hebdo" offices january 7th. 10 people are dead in niger
after violent protests in the capital. they are angry over "charlie hebdo"'s latest cartoon of the prophet prophet phoemuhammad. they looted shops and attacked a police station western intelligence agency want to find a woman believed to be connected to the paris attacks. bomeddiene is considered to help in the plot to attack a kosher grocery market. bomeddiene is far from the only woman in joining the movement >> reporter: experts say more women have been joining the movement in recent years. some of them had had coming from western countries like the united states and france. you wouldn't know it but this youthful face is at the center of an international manhunt. hayat bomeddiene is hiding behind a veil in these pictures aiming a crossbow. but in this photo, bomeddiene is
reportedly seen with her romantic partner, coulibaly, wearing a bikini on the beach. she said she was not very reledgeous first met him. the images seem to show a radical transformation into extremism. >> if you look at it it is erasing previous identity. >> reporter: beam dean is wanted for her mysterious role in the paris terror attacks. it has made her front page news. >> she will be seen as a rock star. almost like she is a trophy militant wife. >> reporter: and she's far from the only woman to take a radical turn. as western women join militant islamist groups. they often help members fly under the radar. one reason why beam dean is seen in this video traveling with a
man who may be connected to another jihadi cell. >> when a woman and a man are paired up they won't be seen as an operational unit, an operational entity. >> reporter: samantha grew up as a normal kid outside london and later turned radical. her husband, one of the suicide bombers responsible for the deadly london subway attacks. she is now known as the white widow and is linked to al shabaab. and mahmoud grew up in an affluent neighborhood. in 2013 she left her family for syria. >> we are a moderate muslim family. it was a big shock for us >> reporter: her goal to become an isis bride and marter herself. her whereabouts unknown.
much like bomeddiene. two western women transforming themselves into the first women of terror. the reasons why women join these types of groups vary. many come from troubled backgrounds. they fall under religious extremists or simply looking for love. they may not know exactly what they're getting into until it's too late. euro star is resuming high-speed service in the chunnel service. it was shut down saturday after a fire occurred in a truck on a freight train between england and france. officials reported no injuries but the delay has caused long lines and frustrations in the uk and france. service today only in the south tunnel. the north tunnel remains closed. in the u.s. state of florida, two people are dead another is wounded after gunfire erupted inside a shopping mall
saturday morning. it happened near the city of melbourne as people were waiting for stores to open. the 57-year-old suspect was armed with three hand guns and he opened fire near the food court. witnesses describe the chaotic scene as people literally ran for their lives. >> we had just gotten our food to sit down by starbucks and chick-fil-a. all of a sudden you just hear pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. and then you just drop everything and your body makes you run. it was a frightening experience. it's something you don't want anybody to ever experience. it was crazy. >> i think somebody is shooting somebody. it's going on all the time now. >> investigators say the gunman took his own life after fatally shooting one man. the wife of the suspect was wounded but is in good condition. the motive for the shooting is still under investigation. a march and rally in washington seems much different than earlier demonstrations in the united states. this one was in support of law
enforcement officers. hundreds of people marched towards the nation's capital in the so-called sea of blue rally. organizers wanted to counter the anti-police sentiment sparked in recent months by controversial police incidents and grand jury decisions. an group has a grim assessment of a natural disaster hitting southeastern africa. after the break, an update on the deadly flooding in malawi. and it has taken decades to create. the latest progress on a mountainous memorial to native american war chief crazy horse. right. real milk. but it won't cause me discomfort. exactly because it's milk without the lactose. and it tastes? it's real milk! come on, would i lie about this? [ female announcer ] lactaid. 100% real milk. no discomfort. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister...
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you can also imagine what this means for their crops and agriculture. obviously just decimating corn which is a staple diet in southern africa. 200,000 people displaced by these floods currently, according to the south african aid organization gift of the givers. we do have a few videos coming out of that recently, if we can pull those up. they actually show some of the expansive flooding that is taking place there. thousands of crops destroyed. the water sitting around the communities have raised fears of a possible cholera kwroultoutbreak. roughly 20,000 people actually separated from the rest of the country. that means no health care no possibility of food or assistance from the surrounding communities. so we're going to be keeping our thoughts with these people as they endure this nonstop rain.
in fact, since the beginning of the year we're talking january 1st we have had upwards of 450 millimeters of rainfall across malawi. and that's where we have seen some of the heaviest rain in harare, the country's capital. this is a band of thunderstorms that form across the equitorial regions of the world. it fluctuates depending what time of the year we're discussing. basically this band of thunderstorm activity has also hemmed fuel by a persistent low over the western half of southern africa. so it just pulls down the subtropical moisture helping feed thunderstorms from zimbabwe zambia mozambique. you can see the band of thunderstorm activity also known
as the intertropical convergence zone. you can see in h a arare and all the thunderstorm activity they have experienced lately. this is the rainy season across this part of the world. and that will continue right through to march. in fact, that's the wettest time of the year. over 225 millimeters. by the way, interesting to note january we roughly see 200 millimeters of rainfall in a 31-day period in roughly 18 days. we have far exceeded that in the nation's capital. we're going to look out for the possibility of more flooding into the future. >> incredible the rains keep coming. we hope things improve somewhat. the ebola outbreak that started just over a year ago is being called the worst epidemic of the disease on record. but health officials are finally sharing good news. a serious decline in the number of new cases in west africa due
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you'll remember quite a controversy whether or not it should take place. 16 teams are competing for the crown in saturday's marquis match between guinea and brazil ended in a 1-1 tie. concerns over ebola in west africa were evident ahead of the tournament even though equitorial guinea is in central africa. people entering bata were screened for symptoms of ebola in the u.s. state of south dakota workers are literally trying to move a mountain to create a memorial to the native american war chief crazy horse. that monument al task has been going on since 1948. as stephanie elam reports, those working on it now say they're the going to go on for its finish. >> reporter: this is truly
dedication in stone. this project really has its roots back in 1939. that's when a sculptor from massachusetts came here to the black hills of south dakota to work on mount rushmore. not too long after that chief standing bear invited the sculptor to work on a mountainous tribute to the native american indian honoring their culture, traditions heritage and their heroes. in 1947 he made good on that and began the crazy horse memorial. >> dad would say whenever he dropped a hammer he was right there to pick it up. >> at what point did they start getting help? >> when they had 10 children. we have a lot of help we're not alone. >> i started 35 years ago. i've actually worked on the mountain 27. i have had the opportunity to at least see the face done. he did all this work without being able to see that. >> so right now we are walking
on what will be crazy horse's arm out to his pointing finger. when you come up here they tell you to not turn around until you're far enough out so you can truly get the impression of crazy horse's face. it is nearly 90 feet tall. i'll turn around and take a look at it. wow. it's pretty impressive. >> that is in answer to? >> a white trader asked crazy horse where are your lands now? and he pointed over his horse and said my lands are where my dead lie buried. >> that was a spiteful question. he said this is where i'm from. sit where my people are from. >> it has so much meaning to you? >> yep. >> it will be 641 feet long. just up the road is mount rushmore. those heads are 60 feet tall
each. together they would fit in just crazy horse's head. >> do you have any idea how long this will take? >> by the time i'm an old lady it should look pretty good. i'm not being smart. i will be dead before it's done. >> incredible story. i want to thank you for joining us. stay with cnn for more.