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graham michael browning was born during the storm at 8:30 in the morning. not due until february 14th. he came really early. 5 pounds 11 ounces. mom and baby are doing just fine. congratulations to them. >> that's great. get back here. >> reporter: the urgency has passed. alisyn if i were there in connecticut, i would pancake you in that snow right now. michy, you wouldn't have a chance. >> reporter: hey, hey. >> better watch yourself. >> reporter: we'll all be together tomorrow. alisyn thank you for guiding the ship from new york. michy, i'll see you soon. time for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> thanks, chris. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," after the storm, folks not digging this. >> just the wind. the winds are killing us. >> mother nature's winning. >> so like 23 inches. >> 28.8 inches. >> i'm not even sure how i'm going to get out of here. >> i'm stuck.
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>> but for others a little disa pointing but it's still so much fun to be out here. >> it's a snow day. >> plus no info about that drone that wound up on the white house lawn. >> the drone that landed on the whites house you buy at radio shack. >> its operator a department of defense employee may have been drinking up before the drone went down. and the markets spiraled downward on news that earnings aren't looking up for some top companies, but when the opening bell rings in 30 minutes, can apple help take a bite out of that 300 point drop. and michelle obama snubbed in saudi arabia. most of the dignitaries lining up to shake the president's hand but the first lady skipped. and the look on her face priceless. let's talk live in the "cnn newsroom." good morning. i'm carol costello.
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thank you so much for joining me. new englanders returned to the roads and the region tries to return to normal. hours after massachusetts lifts its travel ban, drivers are slogging through the commute. the mayor urging people to stay off the roads. here's a rundown of some snowfall totals for you. while new york was largely spared parts of suburban long island were buried. the town of orient reports 30 inches. hartford connecticut, relatively modest 13 inches. boston over 24 inches. to the south of the city rough seas have breached a seawall that protects homes. the pictures from the town are amazing. ice encrusted homes frozen solid from sea spray and streets flooded from high water. in scituate north of cape cod, howling wind gusts 62 miles an hour. they've created an endless explosion of sea spray that are encasing ocean front homes in a sheath of ice. this photo posted on twitter is from one of our field pro diesducers
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there. nick valencia is there on sight. good morning, nick. >> reporter: good morning, carol. here in scituate is one of the hard oes hit areas in the state of massachusetts with more than 2 feet of snow. 60 mile per hour sustained winds at one point but now things are slowly getting back to normal here. we've seen cars emerge. that travel ban was lifted as of midnight. we're seeing people coming out of their homes and taking care of what's left. you see behind me here let's pan over. people shoveling the driveways getting back to normal. i talked to that gentleman. he's been here with his family for 50 years in this community. he remembers back in 1978 when things were really really bad here. that storm caught everybody off guard. this time around local officials, the state officials including the governor giving warning to the residents here. most of the people took that guidance. a handful of people had to get
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rescued by the national guard. this morning most of what's left is a lot of this stuff behind me a lot of snow. they'll be cleaning up for a couple of days to come. right now, they say they're just ready to get back to business. carol. >> i'm thinking that poor guy shoveling snow behind you needs to go across the street and borrow that guy's snow blower right? >> reporter: yeah. people have really good attitudes about it. it's remarkable carol. somebody just offered us breakfast a little while ago. here though they say they're used to it. they just want to get through this. they are glad the worst is over carol. >> you've got that right. reporting live this morning. thank you. let's travel down the coast, shall we to the town of new london connecticut. the storm dumped just over 20 inches of snow there, and the mounds are much larger along the freshly plowed roads. cnn's michaela pereira joins us. are you still buried? you got out of the snow drift. yeah. >> reporter: i'm ready. i'm in a snow drift. i stood up for you, carol.
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good morning to you and good morning to the viewers. it's past us carol. it was a different situation here yesterday. we were in the heart of a blizzard. blizzard conditions really existing here. swirling winds, swirling snow almost 26 inches of snow here in new london. very different day today. it is bitterly cold. about 12 degrees. if you add the wind chill factor, that's about minus it2. you can feel it in your bones. no wind. the roads are the biggest concerns. we know road crews were out here doing yeoman's work getting these roads cleared. major arteries through town are clear and bare. we're told that some of the on and off ramps to the freeway, some of the other back roads, they're not quite as clear. folks are being urged to take caution or not go out at all. the mayor of new london joined me a little earlier. he told me that the national guard from connecticut has been called in to add to the resources they have on the
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ground here. nearby bridgeport has sent some of their resources to add to the crews. i also asked him if he thought that they would be seeing any sort of federal aid any time soon. this is what he had to say. >> any federal or state assistance is very very welcome, but we are fortunate that this is our first major storm of the year so our budget so far is holding up. our salt supplies so far are holding up. we get two, three more storms we're going to be in a lot of trouble. it's still early in the season. any federal assistance would be welcome here in new london. >> reporter: yeah certainly welcome. you can see one of the big trucks. we've been seeing trucks and plows. emergency vehicles are getting by. no emergencies, carol. very good news. very minimal power outages. also very good news. so interesting to see how different this storm hit if you're in the northern part of the state of connecticut, 33.5 inches of snow. western connecticut saw only about 5 inches of snow.
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so it depended on where you were in the state. one thing i'll agree with for sure what nick valencia had to say. attitude is everything. there have been smiles on people's faces. they're resigned to the fact that this is the reality of what's going on. they're being very patient. very whose spitable to strangers like us who got snowed in here and had to rely on their hospitality. overall, they're working on getting themselves ready to get back to business as usual in new london. >> you have to laugh or you cry, michaela. thanks so much. i appreciate it. while connecticut continues to dig out, new york city is sitting pretty. that historic blizzard was not historic. it wasn't even a blizzard. cue the critics who say mayor bill de blasio overhyped the storm. as for how the mayor responded. whatever. mr. de blasio actually performed a dramatic reading of his dire predictions after the satirical website the onion mocked the city's prestorm warnings.
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>> the fury bearing down on us knows neither mercy or reason at all within the five burroughs will perrish cowering. this shall be a tempest the likes of what ever has never been breached. it's so brilliant i had to do a reading of it. >> meteorologists are not laughing. some are actually apologizing for their forecast. gary sakowski issued a series on twitter. you made a lot of determinations expecting us to get it right. i am sorry. it is unheard of for weather people to apologize. let's ask eric holthouse. he's a meteorologist from slate magazine. he joins us on the phone. good morning, eric. how are you? >> i'm good. >> you apologized to your readers yesterday, as well. you said and i'm going to quote, i sided almost
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exclusively with the numbers from the national weather service because, one, they looked reasonable. looking at much of the same data myself and, two, they're the official forecast source. entire governments make plans based on their forecasts so i figured that's good enough for "slate." i was wrong. why did you feel the need to apologize? >> well, i think on storms like this people get their expectations up. you're stuck at home with an unplanned day off and you see cars driving by just like nothing ever happened. so it was -- it was very clear in the first few hours yesterday that new york city was kind of maybe upset a little bit about the forecast but keep in mind though that the national weather service did a great job in new england as you guys have been showing. they have a full out blizzard there and in boston this is ranking right up in the top five six storms in their
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history dating back to 1870. >> that is absolutely true. i think a lot of people were upset because the forecast was so wrong here in new york city because it's become sort of well a tradition for weather people on television to overhype things and worry us because, you know cynics would say it brings ratings. >> sure. yeah. and we've had a history of really big storms in the last couple of years. irene and sandy and for the city you know sandy was a big hit as far as the impact but irene didn't quite pan out as much as the forecast said even though it hit upstate new york pretty hard. so it's just kind of a matter of on days like this these big storms i think meteorologists should give a better idea of kind of the uncertainty of which way these storms could go. you know two days before the storm hit on sunday i wrote that
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there was about a 66% chance of 18 inches or more in new york city. that leaves a big margin of error for something less than that which is what we got. so you know in the future i'm just going to try to play the down side just as much as the up side and kind of try to give the full range of options. >> well eric thank you for talking with me and thanks for your apology. thanks for like you know standing up and explaining things and taking it. we appreciate it. eric holthaus from "slate" magazine. still to come a deal could be in the works to free one of the hostages. a jordanian pilot. they could be considering a swap for a failed suicide bomber. what would that mean for the japanese hostage? will ripley is following that from tokyo. >> reporter: that's the big question here now, carol. so much for the fate of kenji goto left out of the apparent
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hostage swap that the jordanian government is proposing.
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inside a jordanian prison. the militant group may get its way. jordanian officials say they are willing to release this woman in exchange of their fighter pilot. she's a would-be suicide bomber where 57 people were killed in a series of suicide bombings at jordanian hotels. she says her suicide vest malfunctioned. i've made a decision not to show the isis video released yesterday. it's propaganda and i have no interest in spreading that kind of terror but i do want to talk about the jordanians and why they made this decision. joining me now are cnn's will ripley and jomana koracha, pentagon correspondent barbara starr and bob baer. good morning to all of you. thank you so much for being with me. jomana i want to start with you and exactly what the jordanians are considering. >> reporter: well just a few
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hours ago, carol, as that deadline was nearing the jordanian government for the first time perhaps under so much pressure that they had to come out publicly in a very brief statement coming out through state media. they have been closed off. they're not talking to anyone. they are tight-lipped about what's going on behind the scenes. in that 125i789 the jordanian government said for the first time that it is willing to release that convicted would be suicide bomber sajida al-rishawi in exchange for the jordanian pilot mu'adh safi yusuf al-kasasibah if he is released unharmed. what you have here carol, is an offer by the jordanian government versus the demand from isis. this is not what isis was asking for 24 hours ago. they wanted the swap. they wanted to exchange. sajida al-rishawi this prisoner with kenji goto. there was the -- the stakes were really raised by isis yesterday when they said unless this happens, they said the jordanian government has been stalling
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that unless this happens they were going to kill both the jordanian pilot and kenji goto. there has been no comment from the jordanian government at this point about the japanese journalist kenji goto. >> so will what's the reaction from japan? >> reporter: well any discussions that are happening, carol, as you know are happening behind closed doors. if there is a prisoner swap underway as we speak, we will not know the details of it until it's over and until either one or both of these men are safe or if there's another more tragic outcome but the hope here in tokyo is that some sort of a deal could be able to be worked out. the one thing that we have to think that kenji goto may have in his favor is that isis has kept him alive thus far. they've used him in two of their propaganda videos. if isis feels that goto is no longer valuable to them perhaps they can gain something by handing him back over to the japanese even though they didn't get the $200 million, but they
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are getting this terrorist al-rishawi perhaps there is hope. that's what's so terrifying for his wife the mother of his two young daughters and his mother who has had such an ordeal as has all of these families. >> barbara, this is another change in tactic for isis right? >> reporter: well to some extent. you know they're not getting the ransom in this case that they demanded so now they want this terrorist back that is being held in jordan. look isis has made all kinds of demands over the months and i think most u.s. officials will tell you it's just sheer terror tactics on their part. the question is -- one of the questions is however this all turns out, isis certainly is expected to take propaganda value from the whole thing. more videos more threats, more statements. so i think people here in washington understand that the governments in jordan the governments in japan, they need to do what they need to do on a national level. there is very much a
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compassionate feeling about all of this. but nobody's thinking that this is anything by isis other than sheer terror. >> well bob, if jordan goes ahead and agrees to this prisoner swap doesn't that set a dangerous precedent? >> of course it does carol, but on the other hand have you to look at it from the jordanian point of view. the pilot was from an important family it's a tribal society. they have a lot of reasons to get him released from isis. secondly the jordanians as i understand it are furious that pilot was taken in the first place. there should have been a rescue mission. he was wandering the desert for a couple of hours. they could have sent in helicopters, they didn't. a lot of back channels between the pentagon and jordan about why this didn't happen. so now the jordanians you know to put it cynically, japanese hostage is one thing, but one of their own from an important family is something entirely
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different. >> all right. i want to head back to will ripley because i understand you have some new information to share. >> reporter: yeah carol. i was just informed one of the japanese television networks tbs here in tokyo is now broadcasting what is purported to be a new isis video, and i haven't seen the video. this was just described to me by our tokyo producers as them standing under a flag saying in the name of alla we are releasing the hostages. no names, but a new isis video being broadcast as we speak in japan. we are working to learn more about this video. this is just happening right now being shown live on television as i'm telling you this. >> so will by hostages -- by hostages do you mean the jordanian pilot and the japanese hostage? >> reporter: that is certainly the hope of people here in japan, but this is -- this is breaking as we speak and so -- and there are no names in the
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video so what they mean by that. of course, here if you have anything else to add come over and shout it to me anything else new. yeah just the video that we're seeing. one channel here and so we need to get new information. we wanted to share with you as this is developing there is apparently a new isis video talking about some sort of hostage release. there have been reports so far unconfirmed of this happening for several hours. again, you know we aren't expecting to get any information through official channels until all of this is done. so if isis is now putting out its own propaganda perhaps, carol, we can see a government statement coming through. we'll let you know the minute we get confirmed information. this is a bit of a promising development here in japan if indeed. >> so jamana you're in front of the camera. i know you're not in a position to gather information, but what might this mean from your perspective? >> reporter: carol, just a short time ago colleagues have been
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speaking to the jordanian government spokesman who says there is no update. they have no new statements. and a short time ago before we came on air the jordanian foreign minister in a tweet said that sajida al-rishawi that prisoner had not been released and that she had not left the country as some had reported. they were denying her release saying it was conditional. it was based on the release of the jordanian pilot. it's very unclear what's going on right now. so far the jordanian government is being very tight-lipped. no new information coming from the jordanians. >> so will ripley he's watching the video right now. we'll let him do that so he can give us more information. i'll go to you, bob baer. what do you make of this? >> you know if this -- this is a constantly evolving threat the islamic state. we see attacks in tripoli played by the islamic state. we see attacks all over the middle east by boko haram. the fact that they have asked for a prisoner from 2005 a
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suicide bomber tells me this is a very unified movement. it's much bigger than a small group in mosul and it has the capacity to project power. if you can get the jordanians to release sajida al-rishawi a very crucial step backwards for the jordanians and it tell us this organization is very much a threat and will continue to be. >> well i do find it interesting, barbara, that you know this woman's been in prison in a jurorordanian prison ten years ago and isis didn't exist then. why are they so interested in her? >> reporter: clearly they feel she's a lever they can pull against the jordanian government a symbol of value to isis and that they can bend the jordanian government at will. i think what bob is saying is really key. you have to put yourself inside the head of whags going on in that region. jordan is a very small country.
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it is vulnerable. the jordanian regime must keep the loyalty of the military and the loyalty of its people this pilot comes from a prominent family. his uncle served in the jordanian military. there was a demonstration in aman seeking his release. people in jordan very angry that this pilot was taken, whatever the circumstances were. the u.s. wants to see jordan wants to see every middle eastern country it can stay within the coalition. so there's going to be some behind the scenes understanding by the u.s. of the jordanian position. they don't want to lose jordan as an ally right on the border with syria and iraq in this coalition. make no mistake, there's a lot of feeling that if this were to prove to be true that isis clearly would have achieved a propaganda victory here. i think there's no question about that. >> that's right. >> reporter: humanitarian issues compassion towards the
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families let's remember in the united states the u.s. released taliban detainees from guantanamo bay in exchange for bo bergdahl so the united states has released prisoners it has to get one of its service members back. this is done but it's very delicate and very sensitive. >> i want to go back to will ripley. he's had a chance to watch this video. what did you see? >> reporter: yeah again, i'm watching it live on testimonylevision along with all the other viewers in japan that are seeing t. it was a man dressed in all black with a beard. i couldn't identify him from sight. he was standing in front of what appeared to be an isis flag. i don't know for sure if it was an isis flag. we need to have an expert take a look at this. he was saying according to the translation on japanese television that in the name of alla we are releasing the hostages but no names were mentioned. not kenji goto not the pilot.
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this is coming out in the past few minutes. another piece of propaganda. this time propaganda saying hostages of some nature are being released. as soon as we learn more we'll let you know. >> so if all of this is true bob, will we see more of this from isis since this appears to be a win? >> it's a win but i think they're running out of prisoners and they've got other problems. they're losing ground in iraq. they're losing ground even in parts of syria. so i think they're going to reach out and get more prisoners but i don't think they'll be successful. i think they'll be going back or turning back to attacks in western europe. it's a movement even though it's expanding on one hand it is on the defensive on the other. we'll have to wait and see. it's not exactly a rational movement. >> bob, barbara, jamana will
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ah the opening bell rings and people are wondering, what will happen today. good morning, everyone. i'm carol costello. thanks so much for joining me. investors on edge after wall street's selloff. dismal earnings from companies like caterpillar, proctor and gamble fueling yesterday's steep drop. the dow diving 300 points. the s&p falling 1.3%. this is the market many americans will want to watch since it most closely tracks yours 401 k. should we be worried? what will today bring? let's talk about that with our panel this morning. cnn global economic analyst and assistant manager for "time magazine", rhonda faruhar, alison kosik and christine
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romans. allyson, thank you for being here. what's happening on wall street? >> we are seeing green arrows to start. this is after the dow took a huge plunge yesterday falling 291 points. even during the day falling over 300 points. so it did make up some ground yesterday. what's moving the market today? certainly apple shares coming out with earnings that blew away expectations. we are keeping an eye on apple shares today getting very close to its all-time high. apple shares closing at $117 a share. all-time high $119 so very well could meet that or exceed that today because apple has such a good quarter. so apple still the darling of wall street especially after it had its 7 to 1 stock split. it means that apple is in more mutual funds. chances are you may be owning some shares of apple. beyond apple what's also moving the market? the fed. the fed having its first meeting today actually ending that two-day meeting today. having its first statement. everybody, carol, watching and listening to hear what the fed
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is going to say about what its timetable is when it's going to raise interest rates. everybody is looking for the fed to have patience in when it raises interest rates because of all the global uncertainty going on not just with the u.s. because we are getting mixed data these days but also what's happening in japan. there's a recession. you're looking at china's economy, we're seeing a slowdown there. the european economy, we're seeing stagnation. those are some of the things moving the market today, carol. >> before we dive deeper into apple because the figures out of apple are mind boggling i want to talk about yesterday's drop because a company like caterpillar causes the market to tumble. apple today causes it to maybe skyrocket. i don't know. why does that happen? >> those two companies are proxies for a lot of the american economy. a company like caterpillar, that's a proxy for the american sector that's where the jobs are. the markets do get worried when they report lower earnings. that reflects the stronger dollar because exports become
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more expensive in the global markets when the dollar goes up even though it makes it easier for us to go on vacation. harder to sell products. >> let's talk about apple. >> yes. >> wow. >> even tim cook the ceo of that company said wow. he said it's hard to comprehend just how they sold these iphones. 74.5 million iphones. unheard of. comes down to 34,000 every hour 9 every second. people are buying these things like crazy. high value high margin product. they made 18$18 million in a quarter. the story is different from the overall tone where the world -- investors were concerned. there were alarm bells ringing for them about how the u.s. -- whether the u.s. could be the sole strong economy to drive the world. the two stories. apple is probably up 7 or 8%. >> you have to say, steve who? tim cook has come into his own, right? >> really has.
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>> the thing about apple though is when you look at the jobs picture, it creates jobs at the high end and the low end, not so many in the middle. not a company like caterpillar. >> it creates jobs in china, places where they make them. >> that's right. very good point. selling them or if you're the big brains designing them that's where the jobs come for apple. >> it's only january and everybody says oh, the economy is getting better. the wage gap still exists. >> i'm worried about the wage gap, carol, but i think this year i really think this year you might see wages start to rise again. here's why. because you have a pretty broad mix of the kinds of jobs that we're creating. wages just haven't been rising for so long. i think that in some categories you're going to see wages start to rise. this is the best year for asking for a raise if you are gainfully employed than it has been in years. >> relatively. >> i'm a little more pessimistic. a rare disagreement. i think we're going to see a little bit of an uptick but not a big uptick in part because you have the deflation mayorary figures.
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that keeps wages down. i'm not quite as optimistic as christine. >> if you're a businessman and you don't have to raise wages because people need jobs why would you? >> because you need to keep your top talent. certain industries are scared to death. >> we have a bifurcated labor market. people at the top can write their own ticket now. there are plenty of jobs at the bottom but not in the middle. that's a consistent problem. >> rona christine, alison thanks to all of you. i appreciate it. now to the record-setting snow that buried people in the northeast. people in massachusetts can return to the roads now that the travel ban has been lifted. it won't be easy. some parts of massachusetts got as much as 36 inches of snow. let's bring in cnn's chris cuomo. he's live this morning from boston where trains are running just in time for the morning commute. i know people are suffering there, but at least this storm's historic for them right?
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>> reporter: it's the worst kind of history, carol. >> i know. >> reporter: when you have to make records, you'd prefer them to be in a good way. obviously we're joking about it. we can because the urgency has passed. along the coast line they have had a hard time nantucket the island massachusetts, coastal regions as well. let's put up a graphic so you can see the totals. what you're referring to in terms of historic is true. boston the storm made it the most snow that they've ever had in a january. the blizzard overall was the sixth largest storm to ever hit the state since 1935. had two feet here in boston, which is very tough in a big city obviously. you had as much as three feet in different places as you're seeing on the screen. places in connecticut got 33 34 inches. blizzard isn't just about snow right? it's about the wind and the wind whipping the water, 10 15 foot waves, created a lot of storm surge, flood damage. some people listened some
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people didn't. that put strain on the system. the story for the blizzard for all the stuff we're hearing about, people in new york and new jersey carfing about not getting hit by the blizzard government got ready in advance. as a result especially in massachusetts, it made a big difference. people cooperated. you were probably 2 at the time but i was 8 in 1978 when we had that blizzard here in the northeast. 99 people died largely from carbon monoxide poisoning. that means they were in their car. people couldn't get to them. they wound up you know succumbing to that. none this time. we're not hearing about any of that and that's because people voluntarily didn't take to the roads. they're being told still don't go to the road because it will slow cleanup. you want to get into it. transit obviously is coming back. we have amtrak that is delayed trips today for boston to new york. airlines they're still going to be backed up. that's not a surprise. there are over 1,000 flights canceled in and out of the united states as of today. about 350 flights being reported
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as delayed. but there's going to be a cascade effect with flights across the country. they'll take a couple of days to clean up. i want to show you some pictures we got off twitter, carol, of people getting back going here in boston. you have the red line there that's the subway. look how jammed it was. people trying to get to work again because of the delays. they wound up pumping up. the ongoing difficulty of being in a place that's all snowed up. look at that bus. it had to be pushed by a massive truck vehicle to get it going. they're like a super tow truck. that's going to be the challenge going forward. that's why the less you have to do the less you should do. but we did very well in this blizzard. all the carping aside coming out of new york and jersey. that's when we expect from my people carol. they're always upset about something. >> it's part of their special charm. >> reporter: god for bid they got hit and not ready. you can call it that i appreciate that. >> special charm. thank you, chris comeau. still to come in the
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newsroom new information surfacing about that drone that crashed on the white house lawn. not only did the owner work for the government he might have been drunk. we're covering that from the white house. hi joe. >> reporter: hi carol. the drone that landed here on the white house lawn on monday was harmless but it sure attracted a lot of attention. now even the president is weighing in on the need to get new rules when it comes to drone. i'll have that coming up next.
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is booze partially to blame for this week's white house security breach? officials say this is the crashed drone that caused a secret service lockdown on monday. the high flyer is a u.s. government employee who's admitted to throwing them back before takeoff, but perhaps the most sobering revelation of all, a real security threat is now exposed. joe johns is at the white house with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. this is prohibited air spaesce at the white house and it's been so for decades. this incident pointed out how hard it is to stop even a recreational device flying so slow so low to the white house. the larger issue is about rules for drones. this is something the faa has been working on for a long time haven't finished them yet. the president talked about the issue of rules for drones in an interview with cnn's fareed
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zakaria. listen. >> i've actually asked the faa and a number of agencies to examine how are we managing this new technology because the drone that landed on the white house you buy at radio shack. you know that there are companies like amazon that are talking about using small drones to deliver packages. >> reporter: now the man who reported that the drone was his does work for the defense department. he works for the geo spatial intelligence agency and, of course they do mapping and imaging for the defense department. he actually told according to sources, the secret service, that he was out doing this with some friends, that the drone was his. it was for recreational use and they had been drinking at the time. the question of course what's going to happen to him? well prosecutors have not decided whether they're going to charge him with anything but cnn has been told that this
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individual could face discipline at his job. carol. >> perhaps they should charge him with stupidity. he's a u.s. government employee gets drunk and he flies a drone over the white house and then forgets about it? >> reporter: the jokes about droeng droning while -- >> while drunk? >> reporter: are going to go for a while. >> what government agency did he work at and what does it do? >> reporter: well yeah the u.s. geo spatial intelligence agency essentially is a part of the defense department. it does mapping. it does imaging. it provides a lot of information for military purposes. probably best known for helping the united states discover exactly where it was that osama bin laden was but it's also done some domestic applications too, carol. >> very interesting. joe johns, thanks so much. still to come in the
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"newsroom," exhausted airasia recovery divers too sick to keep searching. what could this mean for the search efforts? that's next. when sends him a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what salesman alan ames becomes? i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! a "selling machine!" ready for you alert, only at
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two more bodies have been spotted nearly a month after airasia flight 8501 plunged into the java sea killing all 162 people onboard. fishermen found those bodies more than 600 miles from where the plane went down and from where the search efforts are focused. exhausted divers are taking a couple days off to recover from their gruelling work. >> reporter: carol, two bodies
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have been found today washed up 600 miles, around 1,000 kilometers away from the crash site. a considerable distance as you can imagine for it to float away. one of those bodies is yet to be identified. we simply don't know if it has anything to do with flight 8501. the other identified so far by local police through a wallet found on that person. they believe it does match a name on the flight manifest. now, the search and rescue or recovery operation will continue. there was panic late last night here in jakarta when we heard the military was pulling out. family members distraught that search and recovery mission may be over. of course more than 90 loved ones still out there in the java sea. it was reiterated this operation will continue so long as they
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can find bodies they will stay there. now, they have taken a pause, carol, for a few days because a lot of divers have been taken ill. 19 out of more than 80 divers have been suffering from nitrogen contamination. they have taken a pause. they are re-evaluating. they're returning on saturday. this time they're taking specialists with them. divers involved in oil and gas exploration and more equipment to help them stay down longer. this operation will continue. in the meantime the preliminary report has been submitted monday a press conference is due tomorrow. we're not sure if they will change their mind because the transportation minister told me they won't be releasing it publicly. tomorrow we'll find out exactly whether they will share that and what will be potentially in that report.
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the first lady michelle obama, skips a head scarf when meeting saudi arabia's new king and sparks an international debate. the first lady accompanying the president on a quick stop to pay their respects to the late king abdullah and meet the new ruler but while the first lady shook hands with the king something typically forbidden by saudi law between men and women who are not related it was the first
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lady's hair that made headlines. 1,500 tweets calling mrs. obama disrespectful. was it more about symbolism instead of a snub. my next guest says yes. good morning. >> good morning, carol. >> good morning. so do you think it was orchestrated by the obama administration that michelle obama would show up at this event without covering her head? >> carol, can you imagine if she had worn the head scarf what the outcry would be in the united states and in the rest of the world? i think the obama administration made a very deliberate decision to bring michelle to this event and bring mrs. obama to this event. it was a way of telling the saudis look we take women seriously in the united states and rest of the world. women can take center stage. you just have to get used to it. it's a symbol of this complicated relationship between
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the united states and saudi arabia. a country important for america's strategic region and creates problems in its clash of cultures. >> i want our viewers to look at the video. you can see -- i can't imagine how uncomfortable this would be. the first lady is in this group of important people in saudi arabia and has to wait to see if anyone will shake her hand. they are shaking the president's hand and totally, completely ignoring the first lady. you know how that feels. how does that feel? >> you know she knew what to expect. i have to say here the first lady did absolutely nothing wrong. she wore conservative attire. the saudi rules do not require foreign visitors to wear local clothing. men are not expected to wear arabian clothing. >> how does it feel when you're in a situation like that when
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you are ignored as a human being. >> there's a reason women don't usually accompany their husbands when they go to these events. i worked in saudi arabia and it was an eye opener to listen to saudi women and foreign women living in saudi arabia talk about how unpleasant and uncomfortable it was. a lot of women in saudi arabia are very irritated with the rules. they are angry about the rules. we heard a lot about the ban on driving in saudi arabia which is the only country in the world that does not allow women to drive and that is not just a symbolic thing, that's a tremendous problem for daily life. there are a lot of problems that the united states finds very difficult to navigate. >> let me ask you this. i just bring this up as an aside. when michelle obama visited indonesia, she did cover her head. this was clearly something she meant to do and not wear a head scarf in saudi arabia. when laura bush visited king
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abdullah in saudi arabia she didn't wear the head scarf either but there wasn't backlash as there is right now. is it another thing that's sensitive in saudi arabia is michelle obama is african-american as well as a woman? >> there's a range of ethnic varieties in saudi arabia. when she was wearing a head scarf in indonesia, she was in a mosque. i think there's a very important difference there. i believe that if she had been in the mosque in saudi arabia she would have worn head cover. >> got you. so does this sort of thing help? does it send a message? do saudis listen or don't they care? >> there are many saudis who care. we should put things in context. there were 1,500 tweets complaining about whether or not she wore a head scarf, there are 5 million twitter users in saudi arabia. i would suspect that there were a lot of women in particular who were cheering for the first lady
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for standing there, being there, where the king was, where the entire royal family without a single female was and for standing not wearing a head cover and doing it with dignity and with respect. she did dress conservatively. >> thank you for joining me this morning. i appreciate it. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. and we begin with breaking news. a 24-hour deadline is up as a frantic scramble to free two isis hostages plays out. right now we do not know the fate of japanese journalist and jordanian fighter pilot. isis is threatening to kill them both unless their demands are met for the release of an iraqi woman long held inside a jordanian prison. now there are signs this morning that the militant group may get its


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