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sentence. can life return to normal? plus height ned security worries over the measles and fall from grace for america's biggest sports league. don't forget this. pretty big football game going on, too. "newsroom" starts now. 10:00 here in the east. hope the morning has been good to you so far. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. this morning we're learning a jetblue flight barely missed colliding with another plane. the jet was headed from orlando to westchester county in new york last sunday. >> just when the flight was trying to land we're told that's when the pilots saw another plane headed their way. >> this morning we have new audio of those terrifying moments inside the cockpit. listen. >> for 9 /*.
>> we're looking into it. 94. >> 94 if you'd like you can climb or descend. >> we have them in sight jetblue 94. >> what you heard, that longbeach. that was the alarm from the collision warning system. let's bring in cnn's nick valencia. if you're on a plane and you hear that that's a red alert. >> it's frightening. that's how one passenger described it. they didn't realize how big a deal it was until they were able to process this. i spoke to one of the passengers on a full commercial flight that jetblue flight 94 coming from orlando, going towards white plains new york. on its dissension that's when the alarm went off.
rick jermono described to me the scene. >> an approach to landing, we were getting excited because the flight was over. all of a sudden the plane made an abnormal maneuver. you could tell it just wasn't normal. we turned quickly to the side and heard a loud noise on the opposite side of the plane. i quickly looked over and my wife said to me we just got missed by a private plane. our plane elevated and turned and the other private plane dove and went underneath our plane. >> rick tells me he has a 5-year-old daughter and she was also on that flight with him and his wife. she was sitting right in the middle of both of them. he says his wife actually saw the plane as it was making its way towards that commercial airliner nearly missing that full flight. he says what chokes him up the most is his daughter could have lost her life. he doesn't understand why it took so long for it to come out in the news. i was talking to him.
i said were you surprised there was a lack of news coverage? >> he said it speaks to perhaps that this happens a lot more than we care to believe. >> what is the faa saying about this if anything? >> here is the interesting thing. it appears neither pilot did anything wrong, if you can believe that. the faa did send a statement to cnn. it says "the pilot reported the smaller aircraft in sight received the alert and climbed. they were operating under visual flight rules and was not required to communicate with air traffic controllers. this small plane didn't do anything wrong. rick germano hopes this would at least start a conversation about protocol in the air. he wants to see a change. the scary thing to him is that this could potentially happen again to somebody else. >> we have that map, a lot of times, of all the planes flying in the air at once. i know people look at that and think, oh my gosh how does it not happen more often? there's an investigation, but what exactly does that mean?
does that mean they might actually implement some changes in terms of that small plane? >> it was operating under visual flight rules. what you see, watch out when you're up in the air, be careful what you're doing. you don't have to check in with air traffic controllers. that's the scary part of it all. jetblue saying they're cooperating with the faa, launching an internal investigation. we'll see what comes of this. this hapt last sunday in the middle of the afternoon, the details of which are coming out now, a week later. >> we of course will continue to follow it. i know the people on that plane including the germano family will follow it until they get some answers. >> just glad everybody is okay. let's talk about this with cnn safety analyst and former safety inspector david soucie. david, thank you for being with us. there have been as we understand now, at least two incidents of near collisions involving jetblue. first of all, does that alarm you in itself? >> well jetblue specifically
doesn't alarm me necessarily. i think this is something systemwide problem, something the faa has been dealing with for many years now, another example of this overcrowding and trying the makes the vfr with ifr, visual flight rules with instrument flight rules. there's no real communication between the two. operating in airports such as that it is frightening and it is something that needs to be improved. >> as nick was saying since nobody did anything wrong, and you talked about that as well with the visual flight rules, do you think it's necessary to modify the way the small planes handle themselves. >> i don't think that's the case. i think the biggest problem is the air traffic control centers themselves who monitor movement of vfr aircraft from primary radar, but i think the biggest problem is just that there's so much going on for those air
traffic controllers. this is another case for next gen, which is the modification of our air traffic control system the air space system itself which would alleviate a lot of the air traffic centers' work burden. that's something held up by congress something that needs funding, but yet congress is holding it up waiting for results from the faa. it's a very difficult position that both of them are in. >> i'm sorry. just so i understand you do think there need to be changes with air traffic control itself. do you think -- >> correct. >> do you think it's possible for them to add more people? is there room for that? is there money for that? >> that's a good point, christi. what really next gen is an improvement in the technology itself. it wouldn't require more people. it would actually require less. it puts more burden of separation on the aircraft as they speak to each other in the air. right now everything
communicating-wise coordination and logistics, goes through the air traffic control centers themselves. what next gen does is it allows the aircraft themselves to communicate back and forth to each other thereby allowing them to know exactly where the other aircraft are at all times. so it really relieve it is burden on the air traffic control center and makes it a lot more safe. now you're communicating directly with that other aircraft in the air with you. >> david soucie we always appreciate getting your expertise on these issues. thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. >> thank you, christi and victor. now to the fight against isis. we're learning coalition forces carried out nearly 30 new air strikes on the group in syria. at least ten of those focused on kirkook. the latest operations destroyed various targets, including a rocket tup, vehicles as well as a bunker used by isis.
u.s. ground troops may be needed to fight the terrorist group according to defense secretary chuck hagel who sat down with cnn for an exclusive interview. hagel who has openly disagreed with the administration is scheduled to leave office in matter of i dos. yesterday employees lined the halls of the pentagon to show their appreciation. hagel offered his resignation in november after pressure from the white house. but, as hagel prepares to leave, the big question remains, will u.s. troops be returning to the fight in iraq. cnn's pentagon correspondent barbara starr has more for us. >> reporter: i asked secretary hagel if he thought it was possible a small number of u.s. troops might get sent to the front lines in iraq to help iraqi combat troops do things like picking out targets. he made clear it's an idea that cannot yet be ruled out.
>> he side you think you need to recommend to me, the president, that we should look at other options, i want you to bring those recommendations to me. that so far has not happened. whether that would happen in the future again, the president has said to his commanders if you think this is what's going to be required i need to know it you need to make the recommendation and i'll listen. >> what do you think? >> well i think just as the president has said and it's the advice i've given the president, it's what general dempsey has, we have to look at all the options. i think it may require a forward deployment of some of our troops not doing the fighting not doing the combat work that we did at one time for six years in iraq and we did for many many years in afghanistan, but to help air strike precision --
>> locate targets, intelligence. >> those are things we continue to support. i would say we're not there yet. whether we get there or not, i don't know. whether that's something that our military commanders would recommend into the future i don't know. but i think, just as the president has made clear, i need to know your honest opinion, and he's been very forthright about that what you think, if that's something you think is required. >> you're saying you think it could be necessary? >> it could be. i'm not willing to say that it will be necessary. i say it could be necessary. >> hagel leaves office in a few days but his view is one that is shared by some current military commanders. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara, thanks. our next segment we'll talk with our military experts. they're going to waive in on what the defense secretary just said. are they surprised to hear that
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we return to cnn's exclusive interview with defense secretary chuck hagel. he said white house officials disagreed with his slow pace of releasing guantanamo detainees. listen. >> not everyone at the white house has agreed with me. >> on what part of this? >> probably on the pace of releases. >> because you've been cautious?
>> because i have the responsibility and i play my own game here and that is because by law i am the one, the one official in government charged with certification of releasing detainees. i take that responsibility very seriously. >> have you had pressure? >> we've had a lot of conversations. >> so let's bring in cnn military analyst lieutenant general mark hurd ling and lieutenant colonel robert maginnis. general hurting, let me start with you. there have been conversations that the whizzer in swap regarding bowe bergdahl. can you help us understand that? >> there is a recidivism rate christi. this is one out of five attempting to make contact. certainly they have not changed their stripes. some of them are going to
continue to want to be in the fight. but to continue to hold people without legal potential of dismissal is very difficult, and the secretary, as he just said in that tape has to make some tough calls. his name goes on the piece of paper to release guys. there's always risk in terms of releasing prisoners of conflict. it's even a bigger risk if you don't have evidence to prosecute. >> so lieutenant colonel maginnis how does the process work in terms of releasing these men and trying to be certain that they do not plan another attack. >> that's a good and a tough question to answer christi. of course as we look at the failed state of yemen and we have a lot of yemenese detained at guantanamo do we send them back to a failed state? of course not. as mr. hagel indicated, he has to certify that we're going to make sure that they're not going
to be doing things that are going to harm u.s. forces that are deployed in the region. so you have to work out some sort of meaningful agreement. the qataris who, of course have taken the five taliban in change for bergdahl they must have given mr. hagel and the u.s. government some guarantees that they're going to keep a watchful eye, constant surveillance of these folks so that they aren't back in the fight. now, just how this one person is allegedly back in the fight is hard to know. most of these guys are pretty old. they're not going to be young warriors like 19 and 20-year-olds they're probably going to help through financing, recruiting or the like. that's hard to really monitor because it's going to be done mostly through personal contacts and through telephone and the internet. so this is an incredibly difficult task the secretary has been given and yet it's something that really must be followed through with. >> i want to listen here to secretary hagel who also says
that fewer troops are reenlisting. listen to what he says here. >> i would tell you that across the board, as i have talked to hundreds and hundreds probably thousands of these young officers young enlisted it's no better than 50/50, probably less than that that i hear commitments from these young men and women that they're going to stay because they're so concerned about the uncertainty of the military. i don't think washington understands the depth of that issue. >> general hertling do you have any gauge as to the strength of our military capacity and the commitment of the people who are in it? he said 50% don't want to reenlist. >> i do have some in fact extreme detail on this. as you know i just retired two years ago. at various levels of command, you're always concerned about
the retention of good soldiers and the reenlistment rates you have. we track that continuously at all levels of command. i think within the last couple years several things have been affecting that. there's a perceived loss of trust by some within the military that their civilian leaders are not considering their best interest. when we see continued reductions in some of the things that support our soldiers and they run from the sublime to the ridiculous. retirements, paychecks, all the way to number of commissaries that are open. there's a gradually increasing decrement in those kind of opportunities. additionally, many of our young men and women who join join to fight for their country. the continued threat of sequestration is affecting that too. truthfully the budget that is applied to not only the
modernization of the force but the continual operational tempo and the training of the force is all based on how congress allocates funding to the force, and that funding has been reduced. my friends who are still commanding in the force are all telling me that is a continuing blight on the military. we have to get beyond sequestration and force congress to address that issue, and all the service chiefs have been doing that just recently this week. >> colonel maginnis i have 30 seconds left. i see you nodding your head. >> sequestration is a terrible decision on our military. it's downsizing the troops. read the papers. they know exactly the bad news down the road and they're also feeling the forced reductions. that's all over the papers. these people just like you and i, they have families they want to take care of want a retirement in the future. yet we've been sending them back
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goodell must go that's the message by one women's rights group who bought this mobile billboard. the group has criticized the nfl commissioner for his handling of domestic abuse cases. >> this coming on the heels of the commissioner addressing those criticisms in front of the media. he not only discussed domestic abuse issues also player concussions, deflate-gate. take your pick. >> so much. let's bring in cnn's rachel nichols. she was there as the commissioner responded to deflate-gate for the first time. did he properly address this issue? >> reporter: look, he promised a thorough investigation and also outlined exactly what the league is investigating, how the footballs were deflated in the first place and whether that deflation was the result of specific action on the part of the patriots. did they intend to cheat, basically.
you might remember patriots owner robert kraft came out pretty strongly at the beginning of the week saying unless there was really hard specific evidence that the patriots cheated here he expects an apology from the nfl and he was displeased in general about the way the nfl has conducted this investigation. goodell responded to that. take a listen. >> this is my job. this is my responsibility to protect the integrity of the game. i represent 32 teams. all of us want to make sure the rules are being followed. if we have any information where the potential is that those rules were violated i have to pursue that and i have to pursue that aggressively. >> reporter: now, there's questions whether this deflate-gate issue is going to seep into the game but maybe not in the way you might think. earlier in the week this might have been a distraction for the new england patriots. guys on sunday you can pretty much count this as an advantage
for the new england patriots. all week, really pour thefor the last 12 to 14 days they've heard maybe they cheated their way into the game maybe they don't deserve to be here. you can bet coach bill belichick will try to turn that around. by saying we will show the world how much we deserve it by winning this game. >> that is some incentive. especially if they bring a pummeling like they did in the afc championship game. rachel nichols, thank you so much. from the heart of super bowl central in downtown phoenix, rachel is teaming up with hall of famer dan marineomarino for the kickoff.
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new york state has confirmed that a student at annandale on hudson campus has the measles. >> a press release say it is majority of students there are i'm nosed as part of enrollment requirements. however, the student traveled on an amtrak train across the state. health officials say if you rode train 283 from penn station in new york city to albany last sunday please be aware of
symptoms. >> the number of measles cases is rising across the country. has a lot of people concerned. in california alone it has risen to 91 with 54 cases now linked to the outbreak at disney land. that outbreak has now spread to 14 states. >> as masses of football fans pack into arizona for the super bowl, of course two new cases are reported there which brings the total to seven. let's talk to dr. robert england about this the director of maricopa county department of public health. dr. england, so glad to have you with us. a pediatric health center in mesa discovered the second measles case as we understand it. they can't determine how many people were exposed. may i ask, what are you doing to track and stop it there? >> actually we're very fortunate. we're in a very early place in our outbreak and we are able to identify who was exposed, get them information, make sure that anyone who is not immunized in
that group is excluded from child care or going to school or going to work. we're asking people in that situation, if they're not immune if they're not immunized, to not go out in public or wear a mask if they absolutely have to. we're fortunate to be at an early phase of this outbreak. by doing a real full-court press on it we hope we can nip it in the bud before it becomes communitywide. >> we mentioned this college student in new york diagnosed with the measles. of course the game is being held at the university of phoenix stadium for the super bowl. how concerned are you about that risk? >> i'm actually not very concerned about the super bowl and the related events that are happening this week because of where we are in the outbreak at this point, because we know who has been exposed to the only two identified cases in our county so far and because we can get
them information. the odds of bumping into somebody with the measles at a large event here in our community right now is actually really small. there's lots of flu out there, lots of upper respiratory viruses of different types, but the chance that you're going to bump into measles is really quite small. if you were comfortable going into a crowded situation last week you should be just as comfortable today. >> carolina somebody tweeted me earlier asking is the measles the new ebola in terms of hype and fear? it certainly is more infectious. what do you say to that? >> let me tell you, measles is the most infectious disease known to man. that's why we're paying so much attention to it. but the way we took this disease from being a half a million cases a year to almost none and the reason it's such a big fuss now is because we got enough
people immunized in our community so that when one person comes in with the germ that person's germs have a hard time finding another person to get to. that's called herd immunity. that's what really protects us. what's protecting you right now in the studio isn't so much the gak seen you got as the vaccines everybody around you got. not all vaccine works perfectly. if yours didn't work or for some reason you can't get vaccinated you're still protected by that vaccine that everybody has around you. it's actually a beautiful thing. >> all right. dr. robert england, we so appreciate you talking to us about this today. thank you. >> thank you. still to come mitt romney pulls the plug on his 2016 presidential push before his campaign is even off the ground. which potential candidate has the most to gain from this announcement? we'll talk about it next. ercises by the top minds in brain science. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities.
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robert zimmerman. lease sarks i want to start with you. we have an important list of big names here. who benefits the most from this retreat from romney? >> well if you look at just a donor perspective, it's jeb bush and chris christie they're looking at a lot of the same donors and probably a lot of the same staff that would potentially want to go work for romney, would also be interested in working for jeb bush and chris psychiatrist stay. here is what i think is good for the republican party. as much as i like mitt romney i think he's a great guy, he loves his country. the problem is he wasn't relatable to americans in 2012. what i think is we need a candidate, more relatable to americans. here is the problem that democrats are going to have. i think hillary clinton has the same problem that mitt romney had with americans just not seeing them as relatable. hillary clinton is someone who has lived in a rarified world since she was first lady of arkansas. this is someone who told the car dealers association she hasn't driven a car in 18 years. this is someone despite amazing
an over 100 million fortune she's not like the truly well off. we need a strong candidate who has a sharp contrast to hillary clinton. >> lisa your comments illustrate the challenge and the problem facing the republican party. it's not about the fact that they need a fresh face or a political facelift. they need a new message. that's their issue. your comments alone, despite all the cliches you went after with hillary clinton, i didn't hear one new idea. the challenge for the republican party is these candidates as long as they pursue an agenda of advocating deportation of 12 million undocumented workers, demonizing the lesbian and gay community or denying science exists and we have responsibility for climate change as long as they pursue that strategy they might win the right wing and the nomination but disqualify themselves from the general election. the challenge for the republican party isn't about fighting gnaw face or messenger, it's about an organ transplant and getting a
new message. >> let me ask you about the announcement. lisa romney said i've been asked and will certainly be asked again if there are any circumstances whatsoever that might develop that could change my mind. that seems unlikely. listen after '08 he said no i'm not doing it again. after 20 12rks he said no i'm not doing it again. he's not even in 2016 he says no but doesn't say no. why not just close the door? >> that's a good question. maybe it's hard for him to close the door but i don't think he's going to run and i don't think he should run. i do think it's time for someone new. to go back to robert's point about the republican party, hillary clinton is not running any sort of new message and certainly not a fresh face for democrats. the biggest problem democrats are going to have is someone like hillary clinton who has lived in a rarified world, someone who doesn't understand the average american someone who hasn't driven a car in 18 years. >> lisa -- >> going a hard time on populous
merit. i think robert should look in the mirror. >> robert last word. >> what i found most interesting about mitt romney's comments is the way he completely dissed jeb bush. he couldn't have been anymore dismissive. >> that doesn't mean anything. >> let him finish. >> -- had he called him one of the 47%. i think that speaks to a basic divide that exists among their personalities in the republican party. the big issue is not the personalities. the bigger issue is having a message and having new ideas designed to play to the extreme right wing. >> looks like the train is starting to move. people are starting their pacs. we'll continue the conversations, lisa boothe robert zimmerman, thank you for being part of it. >> thank you, victor. a florida woman's agonizing choice take a plea deal or face up to 60 years in prison. marissa alexandra says she was standing her ground against a man who wanted to kill her.
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a woman in florida is at home this weekend under house arrest after spending three years behind bars. her crime, firing what she says was a warning shot in the direction of her estranged husband. we have to say her children were in the room as well. her name is marissa alexander, she said she feared her estranged husband was trying to
kill her and she was acting in self-defense. >> her case is one of many that shined a spotlight on florida's stand your ground law, but the court did not buy her defense. she could have spent decades in prison. >> this is my life i'm fighting for. this is my life and it's my life not entertainment. >> melissa alexander's legal odyssey started here in 2010. she said her abusive husband rico gray was in a jealous rage over text messages on her cell phone. gray had been arrested in the past for assaulting her. she locked herself in the bathroom. >> he managed to get the door open. he strangled me. >> reporter: alexander got away ran into the garage. she says the garage door was struck so she grabbed a gun she kept in the garage. she explained what happened next. >> were you thinking you might have to shoot him? >> yeah i did, if it came to that. he saw my weapon at my side, and
when he saw it he was even more upset, and that's when he threatened to kill me. >> that's when she fired what she calls a warning shot into the wall. >> i believe when he threatened to kill me that's what he was going to do. >> reporter: rico gray fled the house with his two young children who were there at the time. alexander was arrested but maintained she was standing her ground but was convicted and sentenced to 20 years for three charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. >> if you do everything to get on the right side of the law and there is a law and it doesn't apply to you, where do you go go from there? >> reporter: a new legal team picked up her case after her conviction and in 2013 fought and won her a new trial. but the victory was short lived. florida state attorney angela corey said this time around if alexander was found guilty they'd be seeking a sentence of 60 years rather than the 20 she was originally serving. cory's office then offered her a
plea deal if she didn't go to trial, three years behind bars and two years under house arrest. tuesday the judge accepted that deal. >> let's talk about this with cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney mark o'mara. so great to have you with us. >> thank you. >> first of all, what did you think of the plea deal? >> i think under the circumstances where she didn't have to spend much more time in jail and she was let out, pragmatically it made sense, particularly with what she was facing which under florida's minimum mandatory sentencing she would have died in prison. it would have been a 60-year sentence. >> let me ask you about that. 60 years in a case where nobody was even hurt for one thing -- she admitted she fired the shot. why were prosecutors, do you think, seeking such a lengthy imprisonment? was it because there were children in the house? >> partly. this prosecutor is known for being very strict in the way she handles cases. but the law does say that you're
going to one on top of the other, the 20-year minimum mandatory sentence thing. they had the right to prosecute it this way. the sentencing guidelines we have and the minimum mandatories demand such an outrageous sentence. >> at tuesday's hearing, i understand the judge did hear from the 15-year-old son of alexander's estranged husband. he was in the room apparently when the shot was fired. is it unusual in a case like this to hear from a teenager? >> well victims have the right to have a voice in the process throughout in florida and in most states. it's not unusual. normally the younger the child, you don't have -- realize there was a domestic violence history between the victim the boyfriend, and her. and i'm sure that impacted on the way the son looked at it as well. >> because there was a domestic violence history, help us understand this. i think this is what people have a hard time comprehending. because there was a domestic violence back story here how is it that she ended up being
guilty that they didn't believe her? what is your take on that? >> two problems with the way marissa acted. there was definitely some threats there between him and her, but she went out to the garage left their living room went out to the garage and got a gun out of the car. could maybe have left the garage didn't. so coming back into the scene, the florida stand your ground law says you don't have to retreat. once you retreat, you don't have the right to arm yourself and come back. i think that was fatal to her defense. >> she initially was sentenced to 20 years we know and that itself drew an awful lot of attention to go to trial. in fact, listen to this. >> you know you can't even digest something like that. i can't tell you that i did and when i did it was extremely difficult. i don't believe i ever really accepted that sentence. i believe i was going to fight, but it's just not something you can ever really digest.
>> so she can't digest it but she has said now she wants to move on but she's under house arrest for two years. how plausible snt. >> she's not going to do very much for two years. she can work go to school but she has very strict guidelines an regulations she has to follow. after those two years, she's back to her life again, much better than the alternative. >> absolutely. mark o'mara, appreciate your insight. >> great to be here. >> we'll be right back. stay close. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more.
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city. >> hidden from the street this is vo truong's house for trees. five individual rooms which double as huge plant pots for the trees on top. by separating the bedrooms bathroom living space and a meditation room, the building compels its occupants to pass through the canopy of trees outside. >> sometimes we just make a question that is how many green, how many trees can we give back to our earth, so the question and the answer is really simple. >> watch the full show at cnn.com/onestowatch. let's take a quick look at other top stories. ohio says it will delay the execution of seven death row inmates. >> they're having trouble finding an adequate supply of drugs that comply with the state's new execution protocol. as a result no inmate will be
put to death next year. the next is scheduled for 2016. the judge in the aaron hernandez murder trial has a stern warning for jurors. she say ifs you choose to watch the super bowl if aaron hernandez's name is mentioned, leave the room. the former patriots star is on trial for killing a semi pro football player and friend. >> first lady michelle obama defended the movie american sniper. mrs. obama called the film important saying quote, i felt that more often than not, this film touches on many of the emotions and experiences i've heard firsthand from military families over these past few years. american sniper has received harsh criticism from a lot of people for its realistic depiction of war. but it is a hit, obviously. >> we are so grateful to have had your company today. >> much more ahead. stay with us in the cnn news roorm. we're turning it over to our
colleague fredricka whitfield. >> thanks so much. it's 11:00 eastern hour of "newsroom" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening right now in the "newsroom." >> 94 traffic 11:00, two miles moving northbound. >> a very close call. a jetblue airliner almost collides with a small private plane right in the sky. passengers saying it was so close they could hear the other plane's engines. muscles cases continue to spread. now a confirmed case at a college in new york has health officials on alert. plus -- >> we have to look at all the options. i think it may require a forward deployment of some of our
troops. >> a very candid chuck hagel on how he didn't always agree with the white house and why sending ground troops into iraq is still an option. you're live in the cnn "newsroom." a terrifying close call in the skies over westchester county in new york. we're learning about a jetblue airliner which nearly collided with a small private plane. passengers say, if not for the jetblue pilot, the flight which was fully loaded with passengers would have been hit by that smaller plane during its descent into westchester county airport, the jetblue collision warning system alerted the pilots that a small plane was coming toward it. the tense exchange with air traffic control, all of it caught on tape.
>> cnn's nick valencia joining me now with more on this. how did this happen? >> that's what the faa is trying to investigate. at least on the surface, fred it appears neither pilot did anything wrong. both staying in their lanes, following the rules. this flight was on its way from orlando to white plains new york when it all of a sudden spotted a small plane that was headed right towards it. passenger rick germano described the scene as frightening. he was on the flight with his family. he said it was full and it happened just as the plane was making its descent into new york. i spoke to him earlier on the phone. >> on approach to landing, we were getting pretty excited because the flight was over. all of a sudden the plane made a abnormal maneuver and we turned
quickly to the sound and heard a loud noise on the opposite side of the plane. i quickly looked over and my wife said to me we just got missed by a private plane. and our plane elevated and turned and the other private plane dove and went underneath our plane. >> certainly a close call for everybody on board. he said he didn't realize what a big deal it was until after he had time to process it all. he said fred what got him most choked up he had his 5-year-old on the plaechb and his wife. they're lucky to be alive right now. >> that was very scary. how about the faa, what are they saying? >> they release add statement to us. i was talking earlier both pilots seem to have done nothing wrong. we heard the pilot reported the smaller aircraft in sight, received the alert and climbed in response to the alert. the general aviation flight was operating under visual flight rules and was not required to communicate with air traffic
controllers. you heard from that passenger, rick germano who i spoke to earlier. he said he hopes this at the very least starts a conversation about the protocol in the skies. as i read from that statement, that small airplane was operating under visual flight rules. jetblue also launching an internal investigation. they say they're cooperating with the faa. >> no violations as it appears. >> as it appears. >> scary stuff nonetheless. thanks so much nick valencia. let's bring in cnn's safety analyst and former faa inspector david soucie. david, does this happen more than people know, since the smaller planes like in this case are operating under visual flight rules? >> it really does happen more than people know. however, level of how close it actually gets. there's a certain level, in various places without getting too technical, various places within an airport in which there shouldn't be any vehicle or aircraft interfering with the
aircraft flying or landing. what concerns me most about this one is the statement they're all operating within the existing rules yet this still happens. what that tells me is there's something in the rules that needs to change, not just something in an operation or something like this. this is a systemic problem. >> something in the rules pertaining to visual flight rules with these smaller planes you're saying? >> right, exactly. they're saying there was no violations. the visual flight airplane was flying within its regulations and the 121 air carrier was flying within its regulations, yet they still had this interchange. it indicates to me there's a systemic problem, something wrong with the way the rules are laid out for this to happen. >> given no violations is this still considered a serious near miss? >> apparently it is. we'd have to see the exact numbers which we don't actually have yet. we just have the conversations. it apparently is a near miss and that near miss is very
concerning it's important to point out the collision avoidance system on the aircraft operated as it was supposed to. the air traffic control system operated as it was supposed to identifying there was an aircraft notifying the air carrier that there was an aircraft in the area and for them to look for it. they did find it. this is part of the vfr rules, visual flight rules. they did see it. what concerns me is the warning actually did go off saying you're in collision avoidance systems and that warns the pilot they need to make evasive maneuvers and they did. so there's kind of two sides to this. there was an issue. however, all of the safety systems that are in place, should this happen worked. >> alarming nonetheless. david suits seerks thanks so much for your expertise. appreciate it. >> thank you, fred. another big story we're following this hour. it involves another confirmed case of measles. this morning new york state health officials are reporting a bard college student has been diagnosed with the highly
contagious disease. bard college is a small school about an hour south of albany. this comes on the heels of two more confirmed cases in california yesterday. in fact the majority of the measles cases started from an outbreak in disney land in december. since then the virus of cases has spread to at least 14 states including arizona. cnn senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is in phoenix. she's been spending time with family with two children in danger of contracting the virus. elizabeth, how concerned is the medical community about this spread? >> reporter: fred they are definitely concerned. here in arizona they have seven confirmed cases. all the case sos far can be traced back to disney land. that family you mentioned, the jacks family they live near phoenix and have two good reasons to be worried. >> one family in double danger.
last week 3-year-old mackey jacks and her little brother eli were exposed to measles at this clinic in phoenix. now eli just 10 months old and too young to be vaccinated is showing signs of the virus which can show deafness brain damage or even death. >> i'm obviously scared. i send out messages saying please pray for my son. >> reporter: if he has measles, it's likely he gave it to his sister. she could be in grave danger. maggie has leukemia. her immune system wiped out by chemotherapy. >> what's your biggest fear for maggie. >> sn. >> my biggest fear is i lose my child or, short of that she gets a severe case and becomes deaf. my family has been through enough in the last six months. i know there's worse out there,
but we've had a rough go of it and i don't want her to have to go through anything else. >> we talked to the centers for disease control, and they told us not to get anywhere near eli or maggie. so we've asked their parents to take cell phone video for us. we're also not going to get near their father and that's because, like many adults he has only limited immunity to the measles. we can talk to their mother however, because blood tests show she does have full immunity. this is how the jacks children were put in danger. four members of one arizona family went to disney land in december. they refused to vaccinate their children and came down with measles and went to the clinic. that family gave meisals to a woman at the clinic and she, in turn exposed 195 children including maggie and eli. >> what would you say to that family if you could talk to them? >> you children don't live in your little bubble. your children live in a big bubble. my children live inside that big bubble with your children. if you don't want to vaccinate your kids fine don't take them
to disney land. >> health officials aren't naming the family. but we spoke to dr. jack wolfson, an arizona physician who refuses to vaccinate his two young sons because he says vaccines are toxic. >> could you live with yourself if your child got another child sick really sick had complications, even death? could you live with yourself if that happened? >> i could live with myself very easily. it's a very unfortunate thing that people die. unfortunately people die, and i'm not going to put my child at risk to save another child. i'm not going to sacrifice the well-being of my child. my child is pure. it's not my responsibility to be protecting their child. >> tim jacks, a pediatrician says the pain brought on by vaccine refusers is like a double whammy on top of his daughter's cancer. >> it's a big deal emotionally. kind of looking back it brings
to mind some of the same feelings we had when we first got maggie's diagnosis. >> reporter: for now they can just pray their daughter recovers from leukemia and doesn't get measles. >> the jacks family might not know for a few more days whether or not eli has the measles. fred? >> elizabeth, here you are in phoenix, the backdrop of the super bowl there which means an influx of visitors to that area. is there a greater concern for this potential spread of measles? for the contracting of the spreading of with so many outsiders, visitors people coming from all over descending on that city that area? >> fred we've been talking to health officials here and at the centers for disease control. they seem concerned, but not overly concerned. they said look we always tell people, if you're sick don't go to an event like the super bowl.
but the issue here is in the beginning when you have measles, you might not know you have it. you have a runny nose a bit of a headache. you might still come to the super bowl. you don't even realize you have measles. the incubation time gets really tricky. >> elizabeth cohen, appreciate your report. let's bring in dr. isaac thompson from the university of vanderbilt in nashville. he specializes in pediatric infectious disease. good to see you. this spread really underscores how many children are unvaccinated in the country, doesn't it? >> it really does. i think as we remember as we hear these rates and more and more cases, we have to remember this is a vaccine preventable illness and for decades we did a very good job in this country of keeping rates of measles incredibly low. this is a disease we used to have hundreds of thousands of cases every year. people were lining up to get vaccinated because it was so common to have this illness, this was about 50 years ago. one thing that's happened is the
vaccine has become a victim of its own success in a way. it's driven these rates so low, there are know now generations, my generation those with young children who are vulnerable to these diseases who haven't seen this. it's more of a concept in a history book than a very real threat to the health and well-being of our children. and now we see the effects of what happens when we allow this to resurge again. >> so we look at the map, doctor. 14 states and potentially spreading some more. how worried are you that it will spread exponentially? >> it's certainly a concern. you have a lot of travellers populations mixing at disney land for example, when this started. those folks spread out across the country. a mix again, somewhere like the super bowl colleges schools all across the country. the potential for this virus to spread is very high. it's probably the most contagious virus that we know of. it spreads incredibly effectively and rapidly.
fortunately it's preventable. that's why these outbreaks traditionally have been rare. so it's -- as many have said already, for those that were for whatever reason hesitant or refusing to vac nate -- >> you say it is airborne. >> that's correct. and not only as elizabeth just mentioned, it can be spread early on in the ill and people think they have a cold. it can be spread even before days show symptoms. >> airborne for sometimes upwards of two hours. dr. isaac thomsen, appreciate your type. up next, chuck hagel and how he feels about whether ground troops should be an option in iraq. >> we have to look at all the options. i think it may require a forward deployment of some of our
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following a developing story out of the middle east. the u.s. and its allies launched another series of attacks against isis. 27 air strikes have been conducted against isis troops in iraq and syria. the militant fighters have also launched a new offensive on the oil-rich city of kirkook in new york also killed two senior peshmerga commanders. now some are wondering if the u.s. will have to offer more than air strikes if the coalition wants to defeat isis. outgoing defense secretary chuck hagel says the option for ground troops is still on the table.
this is what he told cnn's barbara starr. >> we have to look at all the options. i think it may require a forward deployment of of our troops -- not doing the fighting not doing the combat work we did at one time for six years in iraq and we did for many many years in afghanistan, but to help air strike precision. >> locate targets, intelligence. >> those are things where we can continue to support. i would say we're not there yet. whether we get there or not, i don't know. >> let's bring in lieutenant general mark hertling former u.s. army commander in iraq joining me from orlando. good to see you. >> good morning, fredicka. >> chuck hagel says we're not there yet. what does it take to go from an option on the table to ground troops in iraq?
>> fredicka i think from the very beginning, general dempsey and general austin and now general terry, the commander within iraq and for the operations there have all said repeatedly when it's time and we see the potential for increasing contributions to the iraqi troops there's the requirement that the president has laid on us to say we need more forces. as mr. hagel said in that interview with barbara, it won't be large forces and they won't be doing the fighting but there is potentially the requirement to have advisers at the front line to do things like help call in air strikes, like process intelligence like contribute to logistical operations. that's been said from the very beginning. again, we're just not there yet. >> how long do these air strikes continue in your view? is it also the conventional wisdom that air strikes are carried out to sometimes lay the
groundwork for ground troops to be able to make entry and do their job and be more able to offer precision attacks that air strikes cannot? >> most definitely fredicka. you hit it right on the head. the air strikes are actually continuing to blunt the operations of isis. if the iraqi forces want to go into mo sufrnlthsl and they said they do those air strikes are continuing to isolate the target of mosul, continuing to stop isis forces into the city continuing to target key infrastructure and elements within the city of mosul. it's really a prepping of the battlefield. that's all the conditions of fighting. when the iraqi forces are prepared and that's a combination of consensus between the u.s. forces giving the advising and the air support with the iraqi forces wanting to go in you a better prepared
battlefield for that ground strike by the iraqi forces with potentially some assistance by u.s. advisers at the front line. >> lieutenant general mark hertling thank you so much. >> thank you, fredicka. a lot of reaction following commissioner roger goodell's state of the nfl. rachel nichols is live in phoenix. >> reporter: an interesting year for the nfl, $9 million in revenues. a public relations disaster we'll break it all down coming up next. [ female announcer ] if you don't
we're just a day away from the super bowl. scandal continues to swirl around the nfl. players caught up in allegations of domestic abuse, on going concerns about discussion and, of course there's deflate-gate. on friday nfl commissioner roger goodell presented his annual state of the league address and
addressed the scandals facing the league. rachel nichols joining me now. rachel, i know the nfl wants to put it behind them as well as the patriots. but is deflate-gate kind of over or is it that cloud still kind of hangs? >> reporter: definitely not over. first of all, there's an nfl investigation that is on going. they cnn medical correspondent elizabeth cohen haven't spoken to pom brady. there's questions on how this will seep into the game. robert kraft, the owner of the patriots started the week by saying the nfl should apologize to his team if they can't find hard evidence that the patriots in fact cheated here. he said he's unhappy with the nfl for conducting this whole investigation the way they have. of course roger goodell had something to say about that. he fired back yesterday. take a listen. >> my thoughts are, this is my
job. this is my responsibility to protect the integrity of the game. irpt 32 teams. all of us want to make sure that the rules are being followed. and if we have any information where the potential is that those rules were violated, i have to pursue that and i have to pursue that aggressively. this is my job. this is the job of the legal office. it is what all 32 clubs expect and i believe our partners our fans expect. we will do it vigorously. it is important for it to be thorough and fair. >> reporter: now, the players have better things to worry about when this when they get on the field tomorrow. i can assure you the footballs will all be properly inflated for the super bowl. the league has special procedures for the big game and they've taken control of the balls for many days now. however, don't expect this to be completely off the board. the patriots players have told me privately they are going to
use this for motivation this idea that hey, people think we had to cheat just to get there. we are going to show them by beating the seahawks fair and square that we deserve to be called the best team in the nfl. we'll have to wait and see if that actually happens. it's an interesting layer to the game tomorrow. >> we'll see what happens. meantime the seahawks' richard sherman, what's this about the baby and, you know whether it's appropriate to be with baby and mommy or whether to be there at the super bowl? >> reporter: there's no baby yet. we have to make that clear. richard sherman's girlfriend is nine months pregnant with their first child, it's going to be a boy. she's not due for another week or some you know babies. they come where they want to come. she's here if phoenix. they have a plan in place in case she goes into labor. doctors here are familiar with her. the question here is what happens if that happens on sunday? we've seen professional athletes a real change in the last decade. it used to be they never missed
a game for the birth of a child. now we've seen in recent years many players missing games in sporting events for the birth of their children but usually not something this big. even in the regular season quarterback joe flacco played instead of attending the birth of one of his children. the seahawks organization has been great. they say, if you have to miss the super bowl we understand. they've given him that option. his girlfriend says her expectation is for him to play in the game. if by some chance this does occur on sunday he can rush off the field and come be with us after. we'll have to see what happens. richard has had a little conversation with the unborn child and the unborn child is going to do his dad a solid and stay in there for another week or so. >> sure. it works just like that. thousands of fans descending on phoenix. they're there for the super bowl. is there much discussion among
the fans there about the nfl's state of -- state of the nfl, roger goodell's comments lack thereof, the various scandals that do seem to haunt the nfl? what are fans having to say about all this? >> reporter: look it's a topic of discussion. you have to click on your internet message board or be around the streets here in phoenix and you can hear people talk about it. you can hear people argue about the patriots and the deflated footballs. one thing we've learned throughout this whole season is when the football kicks off, when game time starts, all people care about is the game even in this season with all the outrage of what happened with ray rice and him punching his wife in that elevator when you look at the top 30 shows during the fall season on tv 28 of them were football games. the most viewed football television event in american history was last year's super bowl. they're expecting this year's super bowl to eclipse that. i think once that ball is kicked off, all anyone is going to care
about is who is going to win? >> rash el nichols, thank you so much. we'll see rachel again throughout the day. and 4:30 watch rachel and hall of fame quarterback dan marina as they host "kickoff from arizona." seahawks head coach pete carroll tells rachel how he overcame being fired by the patriots to bring a championship to seattle. that's today 4:30 eastern time. also still ahead, mitt romney's decision to stay out of the 2016 presidential race. new details about why and when he concluded a third bid was not in the cards for him. take us to worlds full of heroes and titans. spawn, building the best interactive entertainment begins with the cloud. this is "titanfall," the first multi-player game built and run on microsoft azure. empowering gamers around the world to interact in ways they never thought possible.
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we're learning new details about mitt romney's decision to forego a third presidential bid. the 2012 gop nominee announced he was staying out of the race saying other republican leaders might have a better shot of winning the election. romney made his decision a week ago after holding what's being described as a frank strategy session with his closest advisers. and in a telephone call to supporters romney addressed the question of whether he might change his mind somewhere down
the road. >> i've been asked and will certainly be asked again if there are any circumstances whatsoever that might develop that could change my mind. accordingly i'm not organizing a pac or taking donations, i'm not hiring a campaign team. >> just how will this shake things up? i'm joined by chris moody, senior correspondent at cnnpolitics.com in our washington bureau. chris, good to see you. so after so much speculation, romney says he put considerable thought into making another run and says he wants to give someone else an opportunity, but, as we know in the past few hours, a lot has been written. "washington post" puts it this way saying romney found out a lot of his staffers had moved on and may be going towards jeb bush's case. "new york times" say this is more about a lack of donor support because romney learned that a lot of his financial
backers in the last go-round have also said they're now going to throw their support to jeb bush. so what was the real impetus of this decision in your view? >> i think the decision to run for president is really twofold. one, it rheelies on the data which is something a serious person like mitt romney examined with his team. did he have the polling? he realized he did, at least for now, this early in the state because he has high name i.d. did he have the donors? he had a few. jeb bush was conducting what his team called a shock and awe campaign especially for the big whale donors to lock them in early in the campaign. i think romney decided, while he might stand a chance here it would be a real fight. if we remember back in 2012 it was a brawl between the republican party and the bench wasn't necessarily deep at that time. you imagine in 2016 what mitt romney would have to go through,
not just having the establishment support, but also trying to get the republican conservative base to jump on board with him. the numbers just did not add up. >> what does this do for the field? there have been some analysts who say it's wide open at this point. as it pertains to the moderates versus the conservatives, who is likely to get the most of the support from the base? >> at this point in the campaign -- we'll call it the campaign. in the process, there's a lot of focus on the donors. but they don't tell the whole story here. the field is wide open. there are lots of sitting governors and members of congress who could be quite formidable who are looking into running. jeb bush is certainly making a big strong play with the donors and with the so-called establishment types, the wall street types. there's also the conservative activists around the country. remember you can't just win an election based on money alone. even just in iowa they have a
caucus process that requires a lot of groundwork and a lot of human help that rely more on just a check being written. it's still wide open. it's not just jeb's show for the next year. >> you and i are both using his name a lot in this segment, but i wonder buzz he have to work hard for that support or is it unsolicited? is he benefiting from that name recognition? he hasn't officially said anything but because he's separated himself from certain companies and entities it's pretty clear thing to venture out and say jeb bush is likely to be in the running. is the support coming to him or is he having to work hard for it? >> oh he's working for it. he spent a lot of time in new york and a lot of time on the phone talking to donors who seem to be very excited about him. also what we saw -- i was speaking to sources within christie's camp the governor of new jersey they were saying shortly after romney made his
announcement they were getting some calls from big donors as well. it's really not over. there's going to be a real fight for this and it's still going to be a lot of fun to watch. >> it will be fun. chris moody, thanks so much. appreciate it. still ahead, parts of new england getting hit with more snow as if they haven't had enough already. we'll go live to maine and talk about the bitter cold that's ripped that state. first this week's "tomorrow transformed." >> in the early days the television was the place we all gathered in the household. today we don't have to sit in our living rooms to watch television. we can stream content on computers, smart phones and tablets. most people still own a television but in the future that may not be the case. >> the future of tv is going to be a lot of things a lot of combinations of ways to access
tv on different screens at different times. it's going to look a lot like netflix. that's increasingly how people want to consume tv. >> reporter: according to nielsen, 40% of u.s. households now subscribe to streaming or video on demand service. that's up 5% from the previous year. it's a trend that has traditional broadcasters paying attention. >> what's really going to happen is you have multiple generations of kids coming out of college who have grown up watching video on the web. they're going to keep doing that those numbers will increase. >> so whether televisions flip fold or project or become something you wear in the future it's content that will be king regardless ofd who delivers it. >> i think at some points streaming and pay tv will become one thing. that's really what the pay tv business hopes. >> reporter: the content deliverers of today have to undergo a bit of a
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feet they already received. massachusetts and maine are being hit particularly hard this time. guess what in parts of maine they could get a whole another foot. sara sara ganham is in portland where there is still snow and ice on the ground. so cold 16 degrees. but you're making it look very warm sara. i don't see any shivering out of you. >> really. well the tears coming out of my eyes are actually freezing. i don't know if you can see that fred. but i do want to start with a little bit of good news which is that we finally have gotten a bit of a break from the snowfall here in new england. but the not so pleasant news it's really, really, really cold, and the wind chill is unbelievable really brutal here. all across new england. it's like this. really all of the northeast. some of the temperatures here i just want to run through sam some of the major cities. in boston the low today is 9. in bridgeport connecticut. 3, burlington vermont, 1. new york 8. portland where i am the low
today is 11. although right now it's a little bit warmer 16. but that doesn't factor in any of the wind chills. so right now with wind chill, it feels like zero here and across the northeast, winds like this. and on top of that fred another storm is coming sunday into monday. and especially in massachusetts, they're warning that that storm is going to bring really dangerously low wind chills negative 20 to negative 30 degrees. so that's something people have to be aware of and plan for, preparing for. i can tell you right now, it's already windy here very gusty. the gusts here in boston and new york are up to 40 miles per hour. that's just a few miles per hour below tropical storm force wind gusts. and you feel that when you're standing outside. i'm colder today than i was earlier this week when we were standing outside in the blizzard, fred. >> oh my. you have convinced me.
importance of religious freedom. the dalai lama will also be in attendance a move likely to anger chinese officials, since the tibetan spiritual leader is one of the most visible symbols of tibet's struggle for independence from china. the white house declined to say whether the two leaders will meet at that event. earlier this week the president sat down with our own fareed zakaria for an exclusive interview, where they discussed everything from iran to russia. and i had the chance to talk with fareed about what the president said and how some of the president's answers were rather surprising to him. >> so fareed you asked the president about iran and u.s. diplomatic efforts. this is what he had to say. >> if i can prove that the deal we've put in place assures us through indisputable verification mechanisms that
iran cannot achieve breakout capacity if i've got a bunch of scientists and nuclear experts saying this assures us that iran is not on the brink of being a nuclear weapons power, then that's a public debate we should have. >> fareed is he particularly confident that these diplomatic efforts will work? >> i think that you heard the most interesting, you know sound bite about his iran strategy that i've certainly heard in months. we now understand what his -- what he's going to try to do. he's going to try to get a deal if he can get the iranians to agree, that he will then present to experts and scientists and nuclear proliferation experts who are going to say, look this is a pretty good deal. it doesn't allow iran breakout capacity. it assures us of the ability to
monitor and check. and then he'll say to congress now, you know all these guys say this is a good deal. are you really going to spike it? are you going to scuttle it? and i think that's the debate he wants to have. because he knows he's facing a very hostile republican congress that is essentially already signaled they're probably not going to accept any deal he presents. so he has to present them with something that changes that dynamic. >> and what else should we look forward to in your interview that will air tomorrow sunday? >> you know i think the most wide-ranging interview on foreign affairs the president has ever given, certainly on television. and we touched on everything. we touched on putin and ukraine. we talked about boehner. we talked about the issue of radical islam. i asked him whether he agreed with people like lindsey graham who say we are at war with
radical islam. and he had a very interesting response to it. i also asked him, you know to describe his own legacy. how would he like the history books to record the obama presidency. so we covered a lot of bases. >> all right. fareed zakaria, we look forward to it. thank you so much. >> pleasure fredricka. >> you can see fareed's entire exclusive interview tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. on "fareed zacarria gps." we have more in the nooums after this.
-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening right now in the "newsroom." >> we have to look at all the options. and i think it may require a forward deployment of some of our troops. >> a very candid chuck hagel on not always agreeing with the white house, but why sending ground troops into iraq is still an option. plus -- >> 94 bfr traffic, 11:00, two miles, moving north, indicating 2,000 unknown. >> close call. a jetblue airliner almost
collides with a small private plane in the sky. passengers saying it was so close, they could hear the other plane's engines. and measles cases continuing to spread. now a confirmed case at a college in new york has health officials on alert. you're live in the cnn "newsroom." hello again, everyone. thanks for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. we're following a developing story out of the middle east. the u.s. and its allies have launched another series of attacks against isis. 27 air strikes have been conducted against isis troops in iraq and syria in the past two days. this comes as isis militants have also launched a new offensive on the oil-rich city of kurkuk. during an exclusive interview with cnn, chuck hagel said the
option is still on the table. our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr, has more. >> i asked secretary hagel if he thought it was possible a small number of u.s. troops might get sent to the front lines in iraq to help iraqi combat troops do things like picking out targets. he made clear it's an idea that cannot yet be ruled out. >> he said to his combatant commanders specifically general dempsey and general austin if you believe, and you want to recommend, you think you need to recommend to me, to the president, that we should look at other options, then i want you to bring those recommendations to me. that so far has not happened. whether that would happen in the future again, the president has said to his commanders if you think this is what's going to be required i need to know it you need to make the recommendation. and i'll listen. >> what do you think? >> well i think just as the
president has said and it's the advice i've given the president, what general dempsey has, we have to look at options. and i think it may require a forward deployment of some of our troops. not doing the fighting not doing the combat work we did at one time for six years in iraq and we did for many, many years in afghanistan. but to help air strike precision locate -- >> intelligence -- >> those are things where we had continued to support. now, i would say, we're not there yet. whether we get there or not, i don't know. whether that's something that our military commanders would recommend into the future i don't know. but i think just as the president has made clear, i need to know your honest opinion, and he's been very forthright about that. what you think. if that's something that you think. >> but you're saying -- >> is required. >> you're saying you think it
could be necessary. >> it could be. but i'm not willing to say that it will be necessary. i say it could be necessary. >> hagel leaves office in a few days but his view is one that is shared by some current military commanders. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. all right. there has been no reaction at this point from the white house to hagel's comments so what is the next move against isis? joining me now is mark hurt willing in orlando, cnn military analyst and former u.s. military commander in iraq. and mike baker, covert operations officer, now the president of diligence, a global security company. and he is joining us from boise, idaho. good to see you, as well mike. so mike to you first. mike i'm wondering, ground troops there in iraq. is that sooner or is that later? in your view? >> well, you know they talked about out of the white house
about, this is going to be a long difficult fight. well, yes, it will be. if their strategy is to you know block and delay on this. there is not a lot of dispute, i don't think, amongst folks that have had a lot of experience in this. and i would certainly defer to lieutenant general. but, you know you can't win this thing. not to oversimplify. but i think i'm about to. but my 7-year-old boy, scooter, he gets involved with lots of snowball fights with his friends. and they even understand, you're not going to seize the day by hiding behind your fort and lobbing snow balls. at some point, you've got to go out and seize the other guy's fort. and they have been talking about this. everybody seems to understand at some point we've got to do this. it's just as if it the white house obviously is just trying to figure out where is that point in the curve when they've got sufficient political ability to go out and push that button. >> all right. so general herlg, is that the case? do you agree with mike? it's unwinnable meaning isis cannot be defeated or dismantled unless you engage
ground troops. >> well taking the snowball doctrine further, fredricka, what i would say is it is unwinnable until we do that but it doesn't necessarily have to be u.s. forces. and i think that's the difference. for those of us who have fought in iraq for many years, we understand that the iraqi army and the iraqi government has to want this more than we do. now, we have provided support, and we will continue to provide support. and what mr. hagel said the other day is exactly what the president has been saying all along. if the military commanders come to me and say we need to put advisers with front-line iraqi troops then he will consider that option. but we're not there yet. because the iraqi forces in the north and in the west are not quite ready to take the fight to the enemy, and start throwing those snowballs en masse to -- as we said but they will be soon. and when that happens, yes, i think we have -- we will present to the president, the commanders
on the ground will present to the president a plan to put advisers to call in air support and to provide additional intelligence to their iraqi counterparts the ones leading the fight. >> so now you've got me thinking. here is another potential scenario. if ground troops to some degree ultimately will have to be involved and iraqi troops as i hear you saying general, are not quite there yet. and if the u.s. says we want to build a enter international coalition, might these ally say we'll devote ground troops too if you do as well more so by just committing advisers. would the u.s. be put in a pickle in a situation where they would have to engage more aggressively by having troops on the ground in greater than an advisory capacity? general, you first. >> yeah, i don't think so. fredricka. i don't think we'll be putting large formations of combat forces on the ground at all in iraq or syria. of course it could be an option. but i think we're a long way from that. yes, a coalition could
contribute forces to this arab fight, and i think they should, because isis is a scourge to all of the arab population in that part of the world. >> mike, could i get you to comment on that too? >> yeah our allies even our closest allies they're not going to do something we're not willing to do. so when it comes to that i think we have to take the lead. it's just our responsibility being at the top of the food chain now. it may be uncomfortable for us, and we're tired of it but that's the case. the problem we've got is if we continue to wait i think, for the iraqis to be capable of this and for something else to happen in syria, i'm not quite sure what we imagine is going to happen in syria without an aggressive effort on our part then the islamic state continues to do what they do. they continue to consolidate territory, have success, in spreading out what they're doing into other regions, including libya, afghanistan, pakistan in terms of gathering up you those re kreutz having success overseas and we're never going to get ahead of this curve until we
take away that territory from the islamic state. i just don't believe that's going to happen without us taking the lead. and i think we're already seeing mission crete. we have seen it over the past year. it's not going to surprise me if we get combat troops on the ground. >> all right. mike baker, lieutenant general mark hurtling appreciate it. >> thank you. in the skies, a terrifying close call right over westchester county new york. we're learning today about a jetblue airliner which nearly collided with a small private plane. passengers say if not for the jetblue pilots the flight which was fully loaded with passengers would have been hit by that smaller plane during its descent into westchester airport. the jetblue collision warning system in fact alerted the pilots that the small plane was coming toward it! the tense exchange with air traffic control caught on tape. >> 94 vfr traffic, 11:00, two miles, moving northbound indicating 2900. type is unknown. >> yeah we're looking at it 94.
>> 94, if you would like to incline or descend. >> we got them in sight. jetblue 94. >> maintain. we want you to follow -- 2:00. >> some pretty scary moments indeed nick valencia has more on this. boy, the passengers pretty shaken. this is a week after the fact. >> that's right. that was very surprising to rick germano, a passenger on the plane. he was surprised there wasn't more news coverage when it happened. it may happen more than we care to believe. rick germano described to me the experience as frightening. take a listen. >> on approach to landing, we were getting pretty excited, because the flight was over. all of a sudden, the plane made an abnormal maneuver. you could tell it just wasn't normal. and we turned quickly to the side and then all of a sudden heard a loud noise on the opposite side of the plane, and i quickly looked over and my wife said to me we just got missed by a private plane.
and our plane elevated and turned, and the other private plane dove and went underneath our plane. >> very scary situation there for everyone on board. rick germano says he doesn't blame jetblue but hopes this experience leads to a conversation at the very least of the protocol in the air. he says he was scared chokes up when he thinks about having his 5-year-old daughter on the plane sitting next to him and his wife. he said that they're lucky to be alive. >> wow, and the pilots got on the air. they informed the passengers what was going on. >> that's right. and that's sort of the curious thing. let's read a statement from the faa. they don't put the blame -- i shouldn't say that they're investigating now. but just read this with me. the pilot reported the smaller aircraft in sight, received the alert and then climbed in response to the alert. the general aviation flight was operating under visual flight rules, and was not required to communicate with air traffic controllers. so you take from this statement that the pilot of the small plane was following the rules, as was the commercial pilot for
jetblue. but it was a quick thinking by that pilot to make that defensive maneuver to sort of go up in the air, last-minute, and narrowly missed each other. we don't know exactly how close they came. but rick germano says his wife saw that plane and could see the letters on the plane that it was so close. it could have been a couple miles away. >> well thank goodness the reaction of the pilots was just that very quick and everyone is safe. thanks so much for bringing that to us. keep us posted on any new developments. thank you, nick. this is cnn breaking news. all right, this breaking story now into cnn. the national highway transportation safety administration is announcing another massive auto recall over air bags that can deploy even when you're not in an accident. more than 2 million vehicles are being recalled. officials spoke to reporters on a conference call just moments ago. >> the root cause seems to remain not fully understood. part of our ongoing vigilance
was to make sure that the -- you know shall the remedy was, in fact effective. what we have learned, it was not fully effective. since the remedy, there have been 39 inadvertent air bag deployments. we would expect with a fully effective, that would have been zero. >> all right. cnn's rene marsh joins me on the phone. what vehicles and manufacturers are we talking about? >> well fred this recall impacts a wide range of vehicles by toyota honda and chrysler. and you have all of the vehicles impacted there on the screen. most of them are vehicles that were manufactured in the early 2000s. so just to explain even more the issue here is a faulty sensor. and what this faulty sensor does is it causes the air bags to deploy sometimes while the car is running, while the individual may be driving. or even causes the seatbelt to tighten.
all of this happening without the car being involved in a crash. that's an issue. we do know that these vehicles were recalled for this issue before, but when the manufacturer made the fixes, apparently the fixes were not adequate because the problem was still occurring. so this is somewhat of a recall so to speak, in that they're trying to get the fixes complete so that this problem isn't happening. no deaths linked to this but there have been some injuries. now, to add, you know -- to add to the problems for people some 1 million vehicles involved in this current recall also happens to have the takata air bags in them. so if you're an owner of one of these vehicles that also has the takata air bag, you're having a tough time because you're dealing with that recall on top of this one. that being said they're urging people if you have one of these
vehicles to address this issue right away. they do not want to take any chances. how do you know if your car is impacted? is you want to get your vin number and also visit safercar.gov. we'll get a link on our cnn website to help people get to that link and you'll determine whether your car is impacted. because we're talking about so many vooexehicles, fred it will take time before all these vehicles get a permanent fix. so what will happen is car owners will get a temporary fix, and then when the parts are in you'll get that more permanent fix. of course this is all happening after we just came off of a year where we saw record car recalls. but again, not wanting to take any chances. nhtsa wants everyone to address this issue now. >> that affects a lot of people toyota honda, chrysler. go to cnn.com to get another look to see if your vehicle is in there or perhaps go to the
nhtsa.gov website as well. thanks rene marsh. still ahead, he helped his patriots make it to the super bowl in 2012 but this year he won't be seeing the game. aaron hernandez and his attorneys going on the defense in his murder trial. which side in this case has the upper hand at this point? we'll ask our legal guys, next. many people clean their dentures with toothpaste or plain water. and even though their dentures look clean, in reality they're not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope we can see all the bacteria that still exists on the denture and that bacteria multiplies very rapidly. that's why dentists recommend cleaning with polident everyday. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher brighter denture everyday. push your enterprise and you can move the world.
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massachusetts. >> reporter: fred, aaron hernandez's defense team comes out swinging in opening statements this week asking why? why would such a promising, outstanding young athlete kill his buddy, oden lloyd? >> why? aaron had the world at his feet. aaron hernandez was playing the future not a murder. >> reporter: yet testimony from oden lloyd's girlfriend also the sister of hernandez's fiancee' appears to question how close they really were. jenkins told the injury lloyd only knew hernandez about a year the beginning stages of a friendship. that they smoked marijuana together. that lloyd sometimes made joints for the football player. as seen in this photo. cnn first showed it in its special report "downward spiral." >> he showed me a picture of a
bunch of them rolled up and stacked on his phone. >> okay. and when was that in relation to his death? >> uh right before sometime. >> reporter: for the second time in as many days emotion in the courtroom. jenkins, wiping away tears, and lloyd's mother crying when photos of lloyd's body with gunshots are shown. and on this super bowl weekend, a reprieve for the jury. the judge telling them to enjoy watching the super bowl but warning them to steer clear of any possible mention of aaron hernandez. and by the way, he won't be able to watch his former teammates play in the big game because the jail where he is staying bans television for high-security inmates. fred? >> all right. susan candiotti, thank you so much. let's bring in our legal
guys freeman, civil rights attorney and richard herman criminal defense attorney and law professor from vegas. good to see you, as well. gentlemen, let's look at the evidence allowed in and evidence barred. allowed in the prosecution has a marijuana joint found near lloyd's body with hernandez's dna. a .45 caliber shell case found in a car hernandez had rented. a footprint that matched sneakers worn by hernandez. and his home surveillance video. and some texts. hernandez's texts to oden lloyd. but then the judge barred this key evidence or at least what some thought would be key evidence. oden lloyd's texts to his sister sent minutes before he was killed suggesting that -- he said he was with nfl. any mention of hernandez's involvement in the shooting of three other men that he suspected.
and a 2009 photo of hernandez holding a gun. so those things barred. so avery, you first. how significant is what's allowed in thus far and what isn't? >> well the evidence fredricka, is overwhelming here. judge susan garth is right in barring certain prejudiceal evidence. but at the end of the day, the evidence is so strong including motive meaning the position that prosecution is taking is that the motive behind this murder was that oden lloyd disrespected hernandez. and that's going to be part of it. secondly the joint venture theory -- the prosecutors don't need to prove that hernandez pulled the trigger, but rather fredricka, all they have to show is he actively participated in this. so while we only have the first two days of trial in a case that will last two months the evidence at this point looks like it's going to be extremely strong. very difficult for the defense.
>> so wait a minute. so richard, i want you to respond to that. so they don't have to prove that hernandez actually pulled the trigger, actually committed the crime, even though he's up for murder. but instead all they have to prove is that he was there, he may have been an accomplice is that right? >> that's on that theory for murder. they charged him with first degree murder. so they have to prove that he intended to kill this individual. but fred there are more things than footballs deflated in massachusetts these days, and that is the prosecution case here. they do not have an overwhelming case avery. they do not. they do not have the gun that was used. they do not have the gun that was used they do not have any witness to say that he was there when the murder took place. they have no videotape of this. no audiotape. there's two co defendants. neither one of them are rats in this case. the prosecution, although you would think, when you open a trial up, would put on an overwhelming introductory case.
so far, fizzle fizzle fizzle fred. i'm telling you, they've got great attorneys for the defense here. reasonable doubt is splashed all over this case. why would a guy who is making $40 million a year plan to kill a friend kill him near his house, leave him there -- leave the body there, and then leave his home surveillance system on? if this was a planned murder? this was -- this is a very difficult case to prove, fred. i would not be surprised a jury comes back and says the prosecution failed here. >> and you feel that way, despite this video, this surveillance video we see. some say it looks like a gun, but i guess that's disputable too. so avery, if no gun -- no murder weapon and you heard the defense attorneys say there was no real motive. and as you heard richard say, why would someone throw this away $12 million contract. that's what so many have said. then you know how does the prosecution try to convince the jury that yes, there was motivation and yes, he was
there. no murder weapon. but he was the one who you know cost oden lloyd his life? >> the answer is that most cases are established by circumstantial evidence. most cases. and in a case like this the evidence for example, of four people going to the site and then three people coming back along with -- there is motive evidence. the idea that lloyd, quote, disrespected unquote, hernandez. and the fact that he was earning $40 million a year at least potentially, i think assumes that hernandez actually thought this thing out, deeply. he didn't. this was a stupid reactive -- >> but isn't it remarkable no one has talked? there has been no information as a result of any kind of off plea deals. it is silent. >> it's amazing, fred. it's amazing that the co defendants have not rolled in this case. they couldn't get anybody to
roll. they're all standing strong here. it's going to be a very, very difficult case for the prosecution to try to link together circumstance or here when they don't have it. i don't see it fred. i really don't see it at this point in time. and, you know there are other cases down the pipe here. he's also -- facing a double murder case after this. but none of that is admissible in this case. >> you'll never hear about it. >> supposedly. but here the defense is similar to the o.j. simpson defense. saying the prosecution targeted him, tunnel vision. they didn't investigate, and that happens a lot, fred. it's happened to me -- >> not here though. >> tunnel vision. yeah i think so. >> okay. this is one to watch indeed. avery, richard, thanks so much. always great to see you. >> see you. take care. >> fred i hate both teams, but we're going for the patriots. >> oh you are. all right. well you know proximity means something. >> if tom brady is not a crook let's go for the patriots. okay. >> okay. we'll see how it plays out. thanks gentlemen. good to see you.
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i'm fredricka whitfield. the eve of the super bowl and the focus is supposed to be on just the game. and the match-ups within it. like brady versus wilson and sherman versus gronkowski. but that's not the kind of year that it's been for the nfl. headlines of domestic abuse allegations against players, including ray rice have dominated the league's narrative for months. add to that an indictment against one of the game's greatest stars, adrian peterson of the minnesota vikings for allegedly beating his son with a switch. and then in the days leading up to tomorrow's super bowl deflategate. and commissioner roger goodell said in the league address this on friday. >> it has been a tough year. it's been a tough year on me personally. it's been a year of what i would say humility and learning. we obviously as an organization have gone through adversity, but
more importantly, it's been adversity for me. and that is something where we take that seriously. it's an opportunity for us to get better. >> all right. let's continue the discussion now with my panel of experts. joining me from phoenix, cnn sports anchor rachel nichols, and former new england patriots linebacker chad brown. and with me here in studio sports attorney david cornwell. all right. so let's talk about this in general. david, you worked for two different commissioners in the nfl. how would you describe the state of the league right now? >> i think it's in the transformation. we're watching sausages being made. the nfl is being transformed from a private entity into a public institution. and just as the commissioner said players will be held responsible or accountable for their conduct for the privilege of playing in the league. he now knows he's going to be held accountable for the privilege of the public support. so we're just watching the process. this is a snapshot.
i believe that i have confidence in him. i think he can lead them through this challenge. i know that he's committed and i believe that he's capable. >> so chad is it your view that this is just the public display of something that has been maybe the norm? maybe some of the components have changed over the years, involving some of the allegations and some of the scandal we're dealing with now, but this has been kind of the internal struggle of the nfl for a very long time in your view? >> specifically talking about the deflategate or the ball pressure? >> we're talking about the nfl as a whole. david just said this is kind of the -- you know the sausage being made but the difference here is the public is seeing all of it and so the nfl has been struggling internally with dealing with things and the latest for the nfl today is that yes, it's deflategate, allegations of domestic abuse. is this the norm for the nfl or is this a different nfl dealing with i guess things happening in the family in a very public way
now? >> yes, as the media gets deeper and deeper inside the nfl as david pointed out, sometimes they don't like to see how the sausage is made so whether talk about deflategate or domestic violation or bountygate these are things operating within nfl circles but as the media attention grows greater, more and more stuff is revealed and sometimes the public looks and goes wow, i didn't know that about my favorite game. >> rachel you know the -- roger goodell was certainly on the defensive. at the same time trying to be very diplomatic and say this is just the way it goes. is there greater pressure on him as the commissioner to take more action to be more out front, to be more public with dealing with these, you know very public blemishes. >> yeah absolutely. i thought david's phrasing is perfect. the idea of this conversion from a private business to a public institution. look the nfl released a
statistic that last year 80% of americans watched at least one nfl football game. you can't get 80% of americans to do anything in this country. you can't get them to vote. you can't get them to go into any sort of religious facility. this is the tent that people gather in now and the nfl is in a little way a victim of its own success. it's become so big it is the place we have national conversations in this country. it's the place we have talked about domestic violence in the past year. it's a place we talk about a lot of other issues disciplining your children, for example. so i think the nfl is still adjusting to that. they did ask for this with their push and push and push to become america's game. it's not baseball anymore. it is football. but these are some of the consequences that they deal with. >> so david, is this kind of a new nfl? is there new pressure on the nfl that there comes with it greater responsibility that perhaps the nfl wasn't either willing to or didn't realize it had to acknowledge before? >> i think it's a little bit of all of that. you know i work for
commissioner roselle. and back in those days in the '80s, his big issue was making sure that the focus was on the game. that the media focused on the game. so lawsuits and all of these things they didn't want it. now we have insiders reporting from every network on the game. we have information about executive salaries there is no off season. this is what the nfl has become and with it as you point out, this is the price of being big. and listen it's not all pretty. but we take this snapshot right, of where we are today, and have all this commentary about it. and things are going to change. you know it's going to look different eventually. and i think they can get it done. i think they'll be successful. >> and so chad for your former team do you feel the patriots are having to deal with unnecessary pressure? has this been a distraction? is it unfair in your view or is this justify the way the game
goes? >> as far as it being a distraction, no one really circles the wagons as good as the new england patriots do. when spygate came out in the '07 season that was early on in the season. they went on and had an undefeated season and were undefeated in the playoffs until they lost to the giants in the super bowl. so i think they'll be able to handle this distraction very well. but unfortunately, because of spygate, the patriots are always going to be considered guilty in a court of public opinion. so this deflategate is just another thing to tarnish their regularacy but their legacy in my opinion, is a team that extremely hard working, perhaps the greatest coach of all-time in bill belichick and quarterback tom brady if he wins a four-super bowl championship sunday the greatest of all-time. >> so rachel if the patriots do win, and since we are talking about legacies we have been talking about tom brady's legacy belichick's legacy before the game. but if they win, might that help rewrite their legacy that
perhaps, you know these blemishes will not be as i guess magnified as if they were to lose? >> well we're going to have to see how this nfl investigation plays out before we know how history sees this incident. and it's already gotten ugly. look the nfl has fallen under criticism for not even speaking to tom brady yet or many other members of the new england patriots. on the other hand the team's owner, robert kraft, is upset about the investigation in the other direction. he called out roger goodell in the nfl at the beginning of this week saying he was unhappy with the way the investigation was going, saying the nfl office will owe his team an apology if they don't come back with hard evidence. and i want to have you guys listen to what roger goodell fired back yesterday. >> my thoughts are, this is my job. this is my responsibility to protect the integrity of the game. i represent 32 teams. all of us want to make sure the rules are being followed.
and if we have any information where the potential is those rules were violated i have to pursue that. and i have to pursue that aggressively. so this is my job. this is a job of the league office. it is what all 32 clubs expect and i believe our partners our fans expect. and we will do it vigorously. and it is important for it to be thorough and fair. >> now, it's interesting that robert kraft, the owner of the patriots was not in the room for those remarks. he is typically in the room for those annual state of the union addresses. so we have no idea why he wasn't there. maybe he had an important business meeting, maybe a bingo game. i have no idea. but the fact that he was not in the room is certainly something people have noticed. >> okay. well we're just about out of time. but david, why hasn't everyone been talking? this is kind of strange, isn't it? >> i don't think it is. >> really? >> i represented -- >> no conversations with tom brady yet, nfl, kraft, goodell,
good friends? >> i understand that others may do it differently. but i represented jonathan martin last year and the investigator was ted wells. ted knows what he's doing. he's the investigator in this case. >> okay. >> so everybody -- this is this instantaneous need for answers shall right? >> we want it now. >> yes, ted is going to go through a thorough investigation. and maybe mr. kraft had a bingo game. but i know he's got a super bowl game. and he may be focused on that. >> okay. all right. thanks so much david cornwell. thanks so much chad brown, rachel nichols, appreciate all of you. thank you. there is more talk about this and all things nfl and super bowl 4:30 p.m. eastern time. be sure to watch rachel nichols and dan marino as they kickoff from arizona and take you inside football's biggest game. that kickoff from arizona today, 4:30 eastern time. we'll be right back. they're still after me. get to the terminal across town. are all the green lights you? no. it's called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51.
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and bobbi brown has been found unresponsive in the bathtub of her home in roswell, georgia. not long ago, roswell, about 30 minutes outside downtown atlanta. we don't have anymore details, except that roswell police and fire are confirming that she was found unresponsive in the bathtub of her home at that -- apparently, her husband, nick gordon actually found her along with another friend found her in the tub and started cpr. we're trying to get more information about other kind of life-saving measures that were taking place at the residence. they have tried to take her to north fulton hospital. also just outside of atlanta, just by about 15 or so minutes. but again, if you're just now joining us the only daughter of the late whitney houston and bobbi brown, 21-year-old bob by cristina now hospitalized at north fulton hospital outside atlanta after being found unresponsive in the bathtub of
her home by her husband and a friend. with me now, my colleague, don lemon. on the phone with me now, don, you covered the funeral of whitney houston. you and i were both on the air that weekend that whitney houston was found dead in the bathtub at the beverly hilton in 2012. and now to hear this kind of news certainly very unsettling but again, we don't know what her status is right now, just that bobbi cristina is now being hospitalized. let's talk about her and what we know about her situation. she was recently married to this young man, and nick gordon. what more can you share with our viewers about her life and how difficult it really has been for her after the death of her mom? >> it was difficult for her after the death of her mom, and even difficult for her before her mother died. they had a tumultuous relationship that then ended up
at the end of her life being very close. and she is close to her mother and at times her dad, did not have a good relationship. she has been in the news back and forth, sadly. she is a 21-year-old girl lost her mom and she was very young, i think 19 years old when she lost her mother. she was staying at the hotel, was not in the room with her mother at the time she died fred as you might remember. she came back to the hotel, and they wouldn't let her in the room. and as you would imagine, she caused quite a ruckus because you would want to be near your mother but they wouldn't let her close to her mom. and by the time she got back when her mother was in the bathtub, she had already died. so in the last couple years, she's had issues. you've seen her in the gossip magazines with drugs, sometimes photographed with what is believed to be possibly marijuana or a marijuana pipe or what have you. but young kids do that you know -- it's not out of the ordinary for a lot of kids. and then recently she was very
upset with angela bassett for the bio pic that angela bassett did on her mother whitney, for lifetime television and she sort of lashed out with -- lashed out against angela bassett publicly. and, you know angela bassett took the high road and said you know he she's a young girl. i did the best i could with her mom's life. and so as we were looking at pictures of her now with her mother, it's sad. and just a coincidence, fred i'm heading out in about an hour to go to los angeles and staying at the beverly hilton for a luncheon on monday that we'll be covering. so it's just weird to get this news. there's so many coincidences with this and around this time, you know back in 2012 you and i were both covering the story of whitney houston's death. >> right. and at that time of course everyone was thinking about bobbi kristina and given she was so close to her mom, whitney
houston. what do we know about what her life has really been like? because, no you know like you mentioned, lots of tabloids have talked about how she may have dabbled in -- experimented with drugs here and there. but at the same time there have been others who talk about, you know how she has been struggling with trying to figure out, you know what her life path would be. especially since the passing of her mom. and do we know you know whether her dad, bobbi brown, has been intimately involved in helping her find that path? is do we know anything more about what it has been like for her the past couple years? >> i think -- i think more than anyone i think her aunt has been involved with her more than anything. and probably her grandmother, sissy. she's in atlanta and bobbi in georgia. i think pat has probably been involved in her life more than
anyone. toward the end of whitney's life pat was closest to whitney houston. and, you know during the filming of this new bio pic, we heard bobbi brown talk about his daughter a lot. and you remember the reality show they had, we saw her on that. he talked about that and i think it was sean robinson from the entertainment magazine show asked her -- asked bobbi if -- if bobbi kristina witnessed whitney do any drugs. and he said no. but there was so much going on in and out of jail so much drug use by their own admission, it would be tough to grow newspaper that environment and not be affected by it. and at least when you're coming to age as a young lady not know what is going on because children know what's happening. and so to think that you can can be around that environment, even if you're trying to hide it from your kids i think it would
be disingenuous to even think that. because, you know she witnessed her mom. she knew her mother's behavior she knew her father's behavior. and like i said she was really close to her mother. and is according to bobbi, he has not done any drugs, at least -- he says he has been clean for about 13 14 years. and we know that wasn't the case with whitney houston. and she was very close. so she's had -- you know a bit of a tumultuous life. she is the daughter of -- she was sort of a rich kid. but during you know towards the end of her life whitney houston did not have the money that she had at the height of her career. and so it's been tough for her. she grew up as a rich kid and probably lost a lot of that. and then i think it was -- she was -- ended up marrying -- being involved with a young man who was can considered her brother, that was sort of raised by her family and they became intimate and she ended up marrying him. and it was a bit of a scandal in the family because they viewed
this young man as you know brother-like. even though -- >> right, that whitney houston kind of took him into the home raised him like a son. and it wasn't long after the death of whitney houston that people publicly started seeing bobbi kristina with this young man, nick gordon out in public. and it was very clear that it wasn't -- it didn't reveal a brother/sister kind of relationship but more of an intimate one. boyfriend/girlfriend. and now we know they have since married. so again, if anyone is just now joining us don, let me reset for folks just now joining us. 21-year-old young lady that you're seeing on that screen there, bobby cristina only daughter of whitney houston and bobbi brown, found unresponsive in the abathtub of her home in roswell, georgia, a suburb of atlanta, just about 20, 30 40 minutes outside downtown atlanta, found unresponsive in the bathtub by her husband, nick gordon and another friend. they did try to administer cpr, according to roswell fire and
police. and now we understand from roswell fire and police she has been transported to north fulton hospital just outside of downtown atlanta as you look at these file pictures of the family. bobby brown, whitney houston and bobbi kristina now 21 years old. we don't know the status but we do understand she has been transported to north fulton hospital outside of atlanta. so back to you, don. we're just discussing the life of bobbi kristina, what has publicly been revealed in recent years. clearly, she was always by whitney houston's side in so many public appearances, growing up but now -- >> she was a baby. >> yeah she was a baby. but now a young lady. now a young lady after her mom's passing. and carrying on her own life but that has been what's been i guess so perplexing. and also fascinating, which is what is bobbi kristina going to do with her life especially at the passing of her mom. and have we -- have we gotten a
clearer understanding of you know there were some aspirations expressed she was going to try to sing she was disappointed she wasn't consulted or even thought about being cast in that bio pic. do we know about her aspirations in the entertainment industry? >> she -- can you hear me fred? >> i can hear you. >> yeah. she wanted to be a singer. remember after her mom died she wanted to sing. and probably before. and many -- obviously, realized she didn't have the voice. her mother's voice. she has a nice voice, but a lot of people have nice voices. her mother was an icon. she had an iconic voice. her nickname was "the voice." that's what they called whitney houston. and she wanted to be an actress. but if you look at that bio pic, which, you know many people liked -- sort of ended when it got to the good part. maybe there will be a second part to it. but you have to be an actress with chops in order to do -- to pull something like that off.
bobbi kristina could not have pulled that off. but let's talk about -- let's not forget here the irony this all of this. is that how whitney houston died in a bathtub. with -- i think she had taken several muscle relaxers and other drugs that were found in her system after the autopsy, and -- which was revealed in the coroner's report. she was found in the bathtub as well in the beverly hilton. and that room -- they took the room out of commission for a while and changed the number on the room so people don't know and it's almost -- people don't know they're staying in you know the same room that whitney houston died in. but whitney houston herself was found in the bathtub and now her daughter. it's just really strange. >> it is very eerie. and we don't know the circumstances, because we haven't received those details about why bobbi kristina was found unresponsive in the tub, but in her home and by her husband. and friend. and, of course we -- you and i were talking moments ago,
especially shortly after the death of whitney houston, when people would see bobbyi kristina out publicly they would see her with a young man who was raised like a son by whitney houston, but then she would eventually marry. and then you know we saw in tabloids -- we could see more images of bobbi kristina no longer as the little girl you know in the shadows of whitney houston, but in these tabloids, and in publications on the internet. there are images of her experimenting with drugs, and a lot of inferences she was having a hard time finding her way. >> yeah. >> that was in the entertainment circles. was that the feeling that she was having a difficult time finding her way, or was she just a young lady who was you know exploring things now that you know she was on her own, so to speak? >> well fred we were you know in our 20s once a long time ago. and, you know in your 20s, people find themselves.
i think people really don't find themselves all of us until we're probably in our 30s, and some of us even older. in our 20s, we think we know everything and can conquer the world and we're invincible. and i think that's -- bobbi kristina felt the same way, and no different from any young person across the world. and just imagine having that much attention. you know we forget that whitney houston was the highest-grossing highest-selling artist ever and that much -- growing up with that much attention, we first met bobbi kristina on the stage with whitney houston. she would bring her up on the staining. so she has been in the public eye and famous her entire life. and, you know having -- and not only that not just having to go out in public and have cameras on them but cameras in her home. her entire growing up. being bobbi brown -- we saw bobbi kristina grow up. and just within i would say the last year maybe, except for, you know -- if not for the -- lashing out against angela
bassett, we really hadn't heard that much from her. and it was assumed that maybe she was, you know getting things together and maturing and growing up and -- again, it's not to say that bobbi kristina is a bad kid. there are lots of famous people's children who we watch you know go through some things. when other people can go through things in private. they can't. >> yeah. >> so she did it publicly. and that's a tough thing to do. a lot of people's kids experiment with drugs, as i mentioned earlier. it's a tough thing to do when you're in public. not that they should be doing it, but that's just the reality of it. but it was assumed that since she had, you know married, she was settling down a bit. but, you know here we are. and we have to see what is going on and why exactly it happened. >> it's unclear. still so many details unclear, don. hold on a moment. because i want to bring in michelle turner special correspondent and contributor to cnn and now also with "entertainment tonight." and for those just joining us again, whitney houston's
daughter the late whitney houston's only daughter to she and bobbi brown bobbi kristina found unresponsive in the bathtub in her home in an atlanta suburb by her husband and friend. what information are you receiving about the possible circumstances? this information we have so far being confirmed by roswell police and fire. she has been transported to a hospital our own correspondent, nick valencia on his way to the hospital. but nichelle what more do you know about bobbi kristina and this news? >> yeah there is not a lot of information -- we do know right now, fred. i've been of course making calls to my sources close to the family. not getting a lot of answers right now. that's probably because everyone is focused on what's going on with bobbi kristina. the things we know generally is that this happened around 10:25 this morning eastern time. that her husband came home with a friend found her unresponsive
in the bathtub, started performing cpr on her and in the emergency services got there, and they did the same and they have taken her to the hospital. now, there are some outlets that are reporting she is breathing and that may have been stabilized. but beyond that we really don't know. the thing that is really eerie here fredricka, and i know everyone is thinking that has heard this story. we are coming up on the anniversary of whitney houston's death, february 11th. that happened february 11th 2012. she also was found unresponsive in the bathroom. that is a very eerie situation that nobody wants to have happen. so we do hope that she is okay. we do hope that going forward we can, you know figure out what happened here. but right now, we don't have a lot of information. we're just trying to figure out, number one, what happened. what's going on with her right now. and going forward. you know what we can find out. there's not a lot to say here at this point. >> right. there isn't a lot we know about the circumstances right now. but as we await some of those
details, you know we would be remiss in not trying to understand what may have been going on in her life prior to today. prior to her being found unresponsive in her home in the bathtub by her husband. so nichelle what is your best understanding as to what the last two years have been like for bobbi kristina? with her mother's passing? she used to be with her mom all of the time. you would see her in photographs in any public appearance. it had to have obviously been very devastating to lose her mom. what has her life been like the past two years as she has been trying to find her way? >> well to say that bobbi kristina and whitney houston were best friends is probably an understatement. you never saw one without the other. they were thick as thieves, always together. so when bobbi kristina lost whitney, it's like she lost a part of herself. you know she has been very open with saying you know she lost the person closest to her. and i think she has definitely been struggling. i mean we saw directly after
her go into seclusion with other members of whitney's family whitney houston's mother who had come in and started taking care of bobbi kristina. she has had a little bit of a rocky relationship with her father bobby. but bobby has been saying lately he and bobbi kristina were repairing her relationship, and they had been trying to spend more time together. but, you know she has had some problems. she has definitely had some problems. she got married to a man who was a family friend who whitney had kind of taken in and helped raise. a man named nick who is now her husband. they began a relationship with a lot of the family didn't like that. they thought that it was a bit odd, because he had been raised so close to her by whitney. she has had some problems adjusting since her mother you know passed away. she has also had some situations that you know people have been wondering what was going on with her, had she been following some
of the same patterns her parents had. none of that had been subs anxioused, but a lot of people worried about her. so to say that she has been okay since her mother's passing, i don't think that's the correct term to use. she has definitely had a rocky road. i'm just hoping that this is a bad accident and she will recover. >> we all hope she recovers from this. and we know she has been transported to a hospital. we don't know her status now. but the starting point being she was found unresponsive in the bathtub of her home by her husband and a friend. is it your understanding she tried to make her own way career wise? she tried to sing that didn't work out so well. maybe even you know looking for a foray in acting.
was she looking outside the entertainment industry or was there something clear she was trying to pursue if anything? >> well you know she was -- the beneficiary of her mother's estate as well. so she was coming into some money. i know that was something people were worried about, as well having her come into a lot of money at one time. but you're right. she did at one point say she wanted to try singing. she wanted to follow in her parents' foot steps in that way. i know she was interested in acting. at one point, she wanted to play her mother and in one of the movies being made about her. that didn't work out as well. there just was that whitney houston movie that aired on lifetime a couple weeks ago that angela bassett directed and i had spoken to angela bassett, you know just a couple weeks ago about it. and had asked, you know if she was -- if she had spoken to bobbi kristina if bobbi kristina had seen the movie. she said she did not know if
bobbi kristina had seen the movie, but she said she did put it out there for them to watch the movie, for the family to see and get their feedback. she had not heard back from bobbi kristina just yet. >> nichelle hold tight. let me bring back in don lemon and legal analyst, sunny hostin also with us. don, to you first. have you learned anything new? >> i haven't. i've been checking with sources. it's just so weird. i don't know if you can have nichelle and i both on at the same time. because nichelle and i both -- fred you were there that weekend, as well. but when it broke, nichelle was at the beverly hilton when whitney houston died. it was grammy weekend, which i believe is next weekend. and so i mean we're closely coming up on the anniversary. but just to be on the air with nishelle again, talking about whitney houston and her family almost to the day, it's just odd. and, you know again, we don't know what happened. but we would hope that the anniversary of whitney's death would not trigger anything
within bobbi. we don't know what's going on, one would hope not. i think nishelle is right on she had been struggling. they were in all of the photographs -- back in 2012 when whitney died it was photographs of whitney with bobbi kristina. hardly a photograph where she wasn't with her. they were always together. so she lost not only her mom, but her best friend. and as nishelle said she had been struggling the last couple years. it would really be an understatement. >> legal analyst, sunny hostin with us, as well. sunny, you know this is stunning. it is sad. but, of course everyone is hoping and wishing for the best for bobbi kristina found unresponsive in the bathtub of her home, but now as we understand has been transported to north fulton hospital, outside of atlanta. so sunny, have you learned anything through your sources or any information to add to this
troubling news of bobbi kristina? >> i have. thanks fred. i had the opportunity to speak to someone that is very close. not only to the family but to bobbi kristina. this person had the opportunity to speak to bobbi last night. she seemed to be fine. she seemed to be in good spirits. my understanding, though she is at the hospital. she was being treated by doctors. she is now breathing on her own. her aunt pat is at the hospital with her. they are all, of course, very concerned. i'm being told she will be okay. but there has been concern to echo what don and nishelle have said about bobbi kristina since her mother's death. there has been concern about possible drug use. and there has been just concern about how she has been missing a
very close relationship that she had with her mother. she hasn't been necessarily fine. as many people have said. she has been troubled. and they are trying to get her the help they believe she needs. >> and so sunny, did any of these friends reveal how they were trying to get her help? that they were concerned about this possible drug use? what kind of conversations were they having with her? had they tried to get her to receive any kind of treatment? what kind of details were they able to share with you? >> you know they were able to share with me they did have these concerns but they wanted and felt that bobbi kristina had to seek the help herself. they had spoken to her about their concerns. but she wasn't necessarily open to them about some of these struggles. but they did suspect there were
drug issues. and they were hoping to speak to her tomorrow about their concerns. and so this has been an ongoing concern, and they are certainly all ral leaguelying behind her. she does have a support system. again, she is very, very close to her aunt pat, who is at the hospital with her. and they are concerned about her, but they are there to support her. she does have the support of family and close friends. >> all right. sunny hostin -- go ahead. >> and many of those people were also close to her mother. as well. >> all right, sunny, thanks so much. hold it right there. we're going to take a short break. if you're just joining us bobbi kristina brown, the only daughter of the late whitney houston and bobby brown, found unresponsive. we're hearing from sunny hostin by way of a friend in atlanta
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inside and found her unresponsive in the bathtub. this coming just three years now, almost to the anniversary date of her own mom being found unresponsive in a bathtub at the beverly hilton hotel. she consequently of course died of an overdose. but now we understand their only daughter 21-year-old bobbi kristina is being treated at a hospital. police are confirming she is breathing, still unclear whether she is breathing on her own or through a ventilator. when we get more information about the status of bobbi kristina brown, we'll, of course bring that to you. meantime we're also following a developing story out of the middle east. there has been a new round of air strikes against isis by the u.s. and its allies. there were 27 attacks in total. 17 in iraq and another 10 in syria. the coalition is trying to prevent isis from opening a new front in the oil-rich city of kirkuk in iraq and now some are wondering if the u.s. will have to offer more than air strikes if the coalition wants to defeat isis.
during an exclusive interview with cnn, defense secretary, chuck hagel, said the option is still on the table. our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr, has more. >> i asked secretary hagel if he thought it was possible a small number of u.s. troops might get sent to the front lines in iraq to help iraqi combat troops do things like picking out targets. he made clear, it's an idea that cannot yet be ruled out. >> he said to his combatant commanders specifically general dempsey and general austin if you believe and you want to recommend -- you think you need to recommend to me to the president, that we should look at other options, then i want you to bring those recommendations to me. that so far has not -- has not happened. whether that would happen in the future again, the president has said to his commanders if you think this is what's going to be required i need to know it you need to make the recommendation.
and i'll listen. >> what do you think? >> well i think, just as the president has said and the advice i have given the president, what general dempsey has, is that we have to look at all the options. and i think it may require a forward deployment of some of our troops. not doing the fighting, not doing the combat work that we did at one time for six years in iraq and we did for many, many years in afghanistan. but to help air strike precision locate -- >> intelligence. >> those are things where we continue to support. now, i would say, we're not there yet. whether we get there or not, i don't know. whether that's something that our military commanders would recommend into the future i don't know. but i think just as the president has made clear, i need to know your honest opinion, and he's been very forthright about that. what you think.
if that's something that you think -- >> but you're saying -- you're saying you think it could be necessary. >> it could be. but i'm not willing to say that it will be necessary. i say it could be necessary. >> hagel leaves office in a few days but his view is one that is shared by some current military commanders. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> all right. and we continue to follow breaking news out of atlanta. the only daughter of the late whitney houston and singer bobby brown is being hospitalized after being found unresponsive bobbi kristina brown, being found unresponsive in the bathtub of her roswell, georgia, home just outside atlanta. now being hospitalize. we'll have more information when we come right back.
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nick gordon along with a friend came home just after the 10:00 a.m. eastern hour and found her unresponsive in the bathtub. they tried to administer cpr, called 911, and then she was transported to north fulton hospital where we understand according to roswell police and fire she is breathing at the hospital but unclear whether she is breathing on her own or through a ventilator. we've had our own number of guests on the air, our own sunny hostin talked to a friend who said that indeed she is breathing at the hospital and she had just spoken with her last night, and it seemed like she was okay. but again, we're also coming up on the thee-year anniversary of the death of her mother whitney houston. eerily also found unresponsive in a bathtub, found dead in fact at the beverly hilton hotel, and we know from coroner's reports that she died of an overdose. but again, 21-year-old bobbi kristina found unresponsive in
her home in a bathtub. but we understand she is breathe, according to sources, and according to roswell police and is being treated at a hospital. more information as we get it. meantime let's talk football and let's talk about all on the eve of the super bowl when the new england patriots play the seattle seahawks at the super bowl game tomorrow. one of the team's former stars of the patriots aaron hernandez, who scored a touchdown the last time that the team was in the super bowl will not be watching the game. he is in jail, accused of murdering semi pro football player oden lloyd. hernandez's trial began this week and cnn's susan candiotti is at the courthouse in fall river, massachusetts. >> fred aaron hernandez's defense team comes out swinging in opening statements this week. asking why. why would such a promising, outstanding young athlete kill
his buddy, oden lloyd? >> why would he kill his friend? aaron hernandez had the world at his feet. aaron hernandez was planning his future. not a murder. >> yet testimony from sha nia jenkins, oden lloyd's girlfriend appears to question how close hernandez and lloyd really were. jenkins told the jury lloyd only knew hernandez about a year. the beginning stages of a friendship. that they smoked marijuana together. that lloyd sometimes made joints for the football player as seen in this photo. cnn first showed it in its special report "downward spiral." >> he showed me a picture of a bunch of them rolled up and stacked on his phone. >> okay. and when was that in relation to his death?
>> right before sometime. >> for the second time in as many days emotion in the room. jenkins wiping away tears, and lloyd's mother leaves crying when photos of his body with gunshots are shown. and on this super bowl weekend a reprieve for the jury. the judge telling them to enjoy watching the super bowl. but warning them to steer clear of any possible mention of aaron hernandez. and by the way, he won't be able to watch his former teammates play in the big game because the jail where he is staying bans television for high-security inmates. fred? >> all right, thanks so much susan candiotti. let's bring in our legal panel now. here with me in studio david cornwell former attorney for the nfl, who represented pittsburgh steelers' quarterback ben roethlisberger. and with his legal troubles some of them in georgia. and cnn legal analyst, danny
cevallos criminal defense attorney in new york. all right. so let's talk about where this case goes and how, perhaps, i guess there are some accusations maybe the nfl looked the other way as it pertained to a reputation that maybe even aaron hernandez had. so david, to you first. you know we're talking about the case unfolding now. the defense says you know there was no motivation for him to kill oden lloyd. so much was at stake, multimillion dollar player. this just doesn't make sense. the flip side is there are some people who know aaron hernandez who say the nfl, the team should have known that he was someone who found trouble or trouble found him. >> certainly, he had a history coming into the league. he dropped in the draft, because of suspected drug use. and i'm not sure that anybody
could have expected or guessed he would have been a murderer. but certainly, there were reasons to ask more questions. and to dig deeper. as we're talking about the new nfl conduct policy we have to say, what did we miss? were there things we can learn about aaron hernandez that can be applied going forward? because the conduct policy has to be about more than just discipline. it has to be about giving these young men the tools to have life skills to confront and deal with life and address issues before they become problems like this. >> when you use that language where you talk like that is there a presumption of guilt? and when you talk about somebody accused of hasn't been found guilty of is that the conversation you know that is appropriate now? >> of course. because whether he's guilty of murder or not, as you said he was close enough to this trouble to be accused of murder. here's a man in 2013 signed a contract that paid him
$12.5 million signing bonus and guaranteed him $16 million. and if he played it out, he would have made $40 million. what is he doing anywhere near a murder investigation? >> so then danny, that's -- that's the perfect precipice for the argument being made -- some people say where is the motivation? how could anyone want to throw all of that away and because of that you know -- and there is no murder weapon. there is no eyewitness account saying he pulled the trigger or that he was even there. and given that argument some would say how in the world could he be found guilty? >> in a couple words, very easily. this is a very strong circumstantial case which is why you're seeing the defense fall back on some very effective tactics. number one, accusing the police of narrowing their focus, such that the real bad doer may have gotten away. another is pointing out motive. but remember motive is not an
essential element of any crime. intent is. and motive can be evidence of intent. >> so what's the difference? help me out. >> sure. so intent is about what was in your heart and soul at the moment you did something bad, like pulling a trigger. did you intend to kill? did you intend to be reckless and scare someone? on the other hand motive asks why did you do it? what was the underlying reason? and that is ultimately immaterial to a conviction. it's not an element of a crime. but that motive the why, hey, he owed me money. or he shoved around my sister. these are just hypotheticals, obviously. but the motive -- i was angry at him, and why. that gives information to a juror about why somebody might have the intent to kill. so that if i claimed i shot somebody and it was an accident but then they introduce evidence of my motive that i hated this person for a long time because ---ed me money, well they didn't need to prove that motive. but now that motive has gone a
long way towards establishing and giving some evidence of intent which must be proven in a murder case. >> so danny and david, and there's the issue of, you know he's being treated differently. he's a star football player. and you heard from his attorney in the courtroom with opening statements to the jurors who said he is being treated differently because he's a star. and so he was singled out. the prosecutors are after him, because he is a big fish. and then when you talk about you know david, the moral code the code of conduct, and how within the nfl, you know a lot of these star players are treated as that. they are stars. and so can can a player or can after a while become intoxicating, that stardom, and maybe there becomes i guess a difficult -- some difficulty in reality versus you know your life as a big star? does that make sense? >> it does. and there is no question. i -- i mean i work in professional sports. but i'm a fan. so i go to training camps once
every two years. and i ride with the team from the hotel to the facility. and guess what? there's police escorts. you can get used to riding like that. you can get used to riding on private planes. but the concept that celebrity justice operates in favor of the celebrity, in my view is a myth. it operates against you. i have a client who we and asked the prosecutors -- >> that's kind of what his attorney is arguing. >> that's right. i asked the prosecutors last week to allow my client to do something. and they said we're not going to give your client special treatment. and i said well you tell me all -- what other defendants have their name posted in the paper yesterday, and the date of their court appearance. celebrity justice works against these guys. but in -- under the conduct policy there's no question that they're held to a higher standard. that's what the commissioner has been saying. >> so danny, last word on this celebrity justice. does it exist in this case? or is that an anomaly here? >> well if aaron hernandez is acquitted, it's not because he's a celebrity.
instead, it's because this is a high-profile case. and there's a big difference. because in many cases, there's a strong case to be made that people may go after celebrities harder. but in a high-profile case even if the defendant isn't a celebrity, there is a tendency for judges and jurors to -- because they know they're going to be subjected to scrutiny later on to take more seriously the burden of beyond a reasonable doubt and consider more carefully motions which in the run of the mill case might not be considered at all. so to the extent jurors may take that beyond a reasonable doubt standard much more seriously than the run-of-the-mill case maybe that is something that works in favor of this defendant, celebrity or not. the high-profile nature is the key. >> interesting. all right. danny cevallos david cornwell thank you for your time. we appreciate it. we never have enough time. there is so much more to discuss. the discussion will continue later on because tonight on cnn, "downward spiral," a
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home outside atlanta earlier this morning. we understand she is at the hospital right now, and sources say she is breathing, still unclear whether she is breathing on her own or by way of a ventilator. when we get more information about the circumstances involving bobbi kristina brown, we'll bring them to you right away. now to another big story we're following this hour. it involves another confirmed case of measles. this morning, new york state health officials are reporting a bard college student has been diagnosed with the highly contagious disease. it's a small school an hour south of albany. this comes on the heels of two more confirmed cases in california yesterday. in fact the majority of the measles cases started from an outbreak in disneyland in december. and since then the virus of cases has spread to at least 14 states including arizona, where the super bowl will be played tomorrow. cnn's senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, is in phoenix for us. not to talk super bowl but a whole lot of people are coming to that city and so there has to
be some concern now since there are cases there in arizona about the potential spread of measles? >> reporter: there is concern. and so that's why health officials are saying look if you are sick don't come to the super bowl. they actually say that you know for any large event. but, of course more importance this year. but fred i'll tell you what the problem is with that advice is that measles can start out -- as just a runny nose a cough. you don't necessarily feel that sick at the beginning. but you are still contagious. so my guess is if you have super bowl tickets and you have a runny nose, you're still showing up. >> well something tells me that's not going to be enough to -- yeah keep people away. now, you know this really is an issue of those who are unvaccinated in large part say many in the medical community are helping, you know in the spread of the measles. that perhaps even the original source, though could have been from someone who traveled overseas didn't have a measles
shot, was in disneyland and those who were unvaccinated. so now what is the concern from the medical community about trying to encourage people to make sure if they are six months or older get vaccinated so that they are protected. >> reporter: right. so the first vaccination comes at around 12 to 15 months, and you know pediatricians have really launched campaigns over the decades to get parents to vaccinate their children. i mean i must say, i spent part of the day recently with a doctor interestingly enough who is vehemently anti vaccines. and there is nothing you can say to him to convince him to vaccinate his children. he believes there are toxins he believes there are poisons. so i actually think based on conversations i've had with parents who don't want to vaccinate, i think it's going to be very hard to convince them to change their minds. they are convinced that vaccines cause all sorts of problems including autism even though studies show that's just not true. >> all right. elizabeth cohen, thank you so much from phoenix.
appreciate it. just ahead of the super bowl. also today, a story developing right now that could affect many drivers. the national highway transportation safety administration is announcing another massive auto recall over air bags that can deploy even when you're not in an accident. more than 2 million vehicles are being recalled. cnn money's peter valdez deppina joining us by phone. what are the details of this defect and what makes and models? i think earlier we talked about some gm vehicles chrysler vehicles -- sorry. toyota as well. but this is separate from the whole concern about the takata air bags right? >> it is separate but it's overlapping. and this can get very confusing for people because about half the cars in this recall 2.1 million cars being recalled for a crash sensor that can cause air bags to go off inadvertently. over half those 2 million cars were also in the takata air bag
recall. the takata air bag recall is because the air bags when they went off could send metal shrapnel flying into people's faces. so that is important. so if you're going to have an air bag go off inadvertently, you don't want it to be also a dangerous air bag in itself. so they really want people to pay attention this time and get this fixed. >> okay. and it's a temporary fix initially, right, so people would go to cnn.com or maybe even the nhtsa.gov to find out if their vehicle is under that recall and then what do they do go to the dealer and get a temporary fix until there is a permanent one? >> yes. people should go to safercar.gov to find out -- they can find out there if their specific vehicle is being recalled. it will give the makes and models. and if it is you should go to your dealer if you haven't already had this fixed and a number of vehicles haven't. you should go to your dealer and get that temporary fix that gives you about 85% protection. later on you'll have to go back again for a permanent fix that
will give 100% protection and really fix the problem. but nhtsa does want people even though it's not 100% effective to get the temporary fix done because your car is still much safer. >> peter valdez thank you so much. appreciate that. meantime we just want to update you that 21-year-old bobbi kristina brown, the only daughter of the late the only daughter of the late whitney houston remained hospitalized now from sources of that of roswell, she is now breathing. we don't know if she's breathing on her own or a vent later, but found unresponsive in the bathtub, found by her husband and a friend. more information when we come right back.
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countdown is on the super bowl is tomorrow and let's head out to the host city of phoenix. it is sunny, gorgeous, and hot, but there's dark clouds hanging over the nfl lately. do tell us what's happening today. >> >> reporter: it's not sunny and gorgeous today. that's tomorrow. right now, it's rainy, gloomy and that sums up the nfl season. it's been a dark cloud hanging over the nfl dealing with the off the field issues. roger gooddell talked yesterday
and got defensive in the question and answer session. >> it has been a tough year. it's been a tough year on my personally. >> reporter: saying the job has been tumultuous is an understatement from the ray rice domestic abuse case to other issues he's been under fire for months some calling for resignation, and the latest issue facing the league is deflategate that goodell addressed on friday. >> this is my job, my responsibility to protect the integrity of the game. i represent 32 teams. awful us all of us want to make sure the rules are followed and if we have any information where the personal is that those rules were violated i have to pursue that. i have to hur sue that aggressively. >> reporter: all the off the field issues this season cast a shadow over the nfl's image, something goodell plans on fixing. >> we obviously, as an organization have gone through
adversity, but more importantly, it's adversity for me and that is something where we take that seriously, and it's an opportunity to get better so we've done soul searching starting with yours truly. >> reporter: the way they handled the issues and deflategate drew criticism from many and rachel asked the commissioner if there was a better way to conduct investigations. >> a lot of the issues have in common is a conflict of interest. when you do something like hire an outside investigator like ted wells into the patriots' investigation, you're still paying him, and robert kraft, who owns the patriots is paying you. what can you do in the future to mitigate conflict of interest issues? >> well, i don't agree on the assumptions made in the question. i think we had people that have uncompromising integrity. i think we have done an excellent job of bringing outside consultants in. somebody has to pay them
rachel. so unless you're volunteering which i don't think you are, we'll do that. >> reporter: and we'll hear more from what goodell said later today at 4:30 eastern. watch cnn and hall of fame quarterback dan marino hosting "kickoff in arizona" talking with a handful of people today at 4:30 eastern here on cnn. >> all right, thank you so much andy. good stuff, appreciate it. right back in the news room with more on 21-year-old bobbi chris christina brown hospitalized half this. work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya? good. aleve. proven better on pain.
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this is cnn breaking news. hello, again, welcome back. welcome to the news room. we are following the breaking news of bobbi kristina brown, the 21-year-old daughter of the late singer whitney houston, and singer bobbi brown, and she is hospitalize izeized right now outside atlanta. she was found unresponsive in the bathtub of her roswell, georgia home this morning, found by her husband, nick gordon along with another friend. they came into the house after running an errand we understand and