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you know i just said a prayer and so thanks to you know -- >> he just has an amazing spirit. he's an amazing guy. >> he did the right thing. >> he is an amazing thing. >> because he thinks it's the right thing to do and that's why that plowing man is the good stuff. >> aren't you glad you have a neighbor like that. >> right? a lot of news. we need gary in our lives, all of us do. a lot of news. let's get to the "newsroom" with ms. carol costello. how are you? >> i'm still hitting that plowing man. we all need a plowing man in our lives. >> oh, wait. >> exactly. have a great weekend, guys. >> carol, what do you mean? >> carol! there are innocence watching this. >> nothing by that at all. i have to start the "newsroom" now. "newsroom" starts now. and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. we begin this hour with a world in conflict and the white house
under fire. today we'll learn more about america's escalating involvement in two different wars. a new wave of airstrikes hammers isis targets in syria. these photos reportedly show the aftermath. u.s. ally jordan again takes the lead and vows not to ease up until isis is destroyed. jordan was accompanied by american f-18s and f-22s. in the meantime top u.s. allies scramble to moscow for peace talks on the escalating crisis in ukraine. can france and germany convince vladimir putin to shut off the pipeline of troops and weapons. cutting through the fog of war. national security adviser susan rice will tell americans the plans and priorities in confronting these crises. six years into the obama presidency foreign policy in a changing world. let's begin with the crisis in ukraine and today's meeting between u.s. allies and the russian president, vladimir putin. cnn's national security
correspondent jim sciutto is in the nation's capitol. aaron mcclauf lynnlaughlin is in moscow. let's start with you, jim. >> reporter: they're arriving in russia shortly. they're going to end a war on the ground. the focus is now resurrecting a peace agreement negotiated in september. the trouble is they'll be sitting across the table from the man, russian president vladimir putin who they accuse of breaking that piece agreement agreement. no question who they blame for an acute escalation. that is russia. that is president putin. minor progress today. cease fires in some of the towns worst hit, but the worry is that with each of these smaller cease fires that the front lines move further ahead. that leaves more territory under, in effect russian control. two questions still not answered. one, will there be another round of economic sanctions against
russia but also unresolved will the u.s. send military aid to ukrainian forces. that decision still has not been made. carol. >> jim sciutto, many thanks to you. germany's angela merkel says there's only one thing clear heading into this morning's talks. there is no military solution to the fighting. only diplomacy can forge a lasting peace. so what will it take to convince vladimir putin to buy into that plan. let's turn to cnn's erin mclaughlin. she's in moscow. hi erin. >> reporter: vladimir putin has kept the west guessing at every stage pretty much along this crisis with eastern ukraine though the kremlin though has said that it welcomes the visits from french president francois hollande as a positive step forward. it has also been very quick to point to its own proposals. president putin's own proposals to resolve this crisis
proposals that western officials have largely thus far rejected. meanwhile, there is news out of ukraine ukraine. we're still waiting to hear kremlin comment on it that ukrainians have arrested a russian spy. now the report coming from ukrainian intelligence officials that they have arrested a lieutenant colonel in the ukrainian military on suspicion of spying on behalf of russia which raises all sorts of questions about the scale of russia's potential involvement in this crisis. carol. >> and arming the rebels as well. erin mclaughlin, thank you so much. now to the fight against isis. jordan unleashes another round of punishing airstrikes against terrorist targets in syria. officials vowing to up the ante and hunt down the killers of that jordanian pilot. a second set of strikes is now complete. among the latest targets destroyed, isis training
centers, weapons and ammunition depots. the air mission now being called moat the martyr in honor of the slain pilots. they're dropping bombs with messages scribbled like this one. islam has nothing to do with your actions. friends and family of the pilot are remembering him as a hero. yesterday queen raynia visited his town. the queen is embracing the pilot's widow. the couple had only been married for six months. let's bring in jomana karadsheh. good morning. >> reporter: we were there when the king and queen visited his family in a show of solidarity to pay their respects to the family of a man who has become an eye coop for so many here in jordan. carol, that tent where women had gathered to mourn him, we went into that tent and it was really
emotional scene. we saw his mother there. she looked so frail, numb and in so much pain she could barely speak. but we were also able to meet other relatives who were able and really keen to share their memories of this young man and also tell us how they felt about what happened to him. here's what his 21-year-old cousin leyla told us. >> he not only lived, he existed, you know? he did something for his country and for his religion. he had to die in that way to show people how true the people are. it's sad and it's heartbreaking and we're so sad and we're crying all the time and when we're not crying we're talking about him. >> reporter: and, carol, describing his personality, people were saying that he was an outgoing person had a really
strong character and was very popular and his dream, his ambition he always wanted to become a pilot. his family and friends really proud of what he did in his life and ultimately in his death. now they feel that their country is more united than ever in their stance rallying around the government to strike isis back. >> jomana karadsheh, thank you very much. jordan's airstrikes focused mainly on raqqa, syria. that's where they've set up its de facto capitol. raqqa is being slaughtered silently posted these pictures. the group claims they show the aftermath of the coalition airstrikes. oddly, isis has just released some more propaganda showing women sewing burkas and head gashes gash garbs being handed out to
children. children. nick paton walsh showed us what the isis strong hold of raqqa is really like. it's interesting how jordan is showing the world it's bombing raqqa. it put this on youtube. let's dig deeper with cnn global affairs analyst lieutenant colonel james reese. welcome, sir. >> good morning. >> have you watched these youtube videos? they're sort of like reality tv shows. >> i have. it's what they have now is counter propaganda to isis and the arab world is trying to move this along. we've been talking about it for months and they're able to take the gun videos from the f-16s and put them into production. it works out for them. >> here's a couple of things that we found interesting in viewing those youtube videos. you have jordanians writing messages on the missiles including islam has nothing to do with your actions. drop upon them stones of fire. and they will turn their back
and run. your thoughts on the effectiveness of such a thing. >> well you know those are the young troops that are prepping those fighter jets to go into combat. if you can look back at the videos from centcom in iraq and afghanistan and look at the carriers we did the same thing. our kids that are loading up the bombs on those aircraft the u.s. air craft, they write messages to bin laden. we did all those things. so i understand it. it's the passion. they're into the mission and they want it and i think that's good. i think it's good for the arab people. i think it's good for the islamic aspect to see the passion that they need to get into and for us we need to allow them to do that and push that along so we can kind of sit back and watch. >> okay. the other thing that i found interesting, there are women in this video in fatigues. was that done on snurps. >> absolutely carol. i mean what isis is trying to do is show the flex and the
aspects that they can put inside of isis. the other piece is they are training females in type of soldier tasks because they want to send them out and they want them to do death and destruction as they either move them into iraq or even back into europe because, remember when a woman walks down the street no one really gives her a second thought. we've seen that in other places. that is a great tactical move by isis to train those women in combat operations. >> we know that women can be fierce fighters because kobani is a prime example of that right? >> absolutely. the kurdish women are great fighters. they have a passion for their people and so you know i have got to believe if something happened like this in the u.s. our women, we have great women in our military that are just as good fighters as our men. so you know it's all about the girls. this he can do it too. >> colonel, that's why i like you so very much. the other thing i notice is that the pilots as they bored their f-16s, they're giving the thumbs
up sign. i would suppose every military pilot in jordan is a hero now. >> they are. the thumbs up is what all the jet pilots do. they give a thumbs up to their crew to let them know thank you, they're ready to go on their mission. right now there's a sense of urgency for them and pride and let the jords go at them. i salute them. >> lieutenant colonel, james reese, thanks for your insight as always. i appreciate it. >> thanks, jierlcarol. the unemployment rate crepes higher. that's not necessarily a bad thing. really. christine romans has more on that. good morning. >> there was a lot of good job creation the beginning of this year. guess what the end of last year was stronger than we even thought. i'll tell you what's going right in the job market right after the break.
we have breaking news on the economy. the january jobs report was released a short time ago. 257,000 jobs were added last month, more than expected but the unemployment rate ticked up a notch to 5.7%. now these latest numbers coming as the president heads to indianapolis to talk about, you guessed it the economy. christine romans is following the numbers for us this morning. what do they mean? >> it's a strong report carol. the president's going to be able to go there, to indianapolis today and say that the job market is still improving and wages are rising. i want you to look at the trend
here carol. you've given that headline number but look what happened to the end of last year. november 423,000 jobs created. we saw revision that's bigger than we initially expected. december 329,000 jobs created. here 257,000 jobs created. you're seeing strength in the labor market. the end of last year carrying into this year. here's something that's really important. you mentioned that unemployment rate and how that unemployment rate had ticked up to 5.7%. here's why you don't need to worry about that. it grew -- the unemployment rate grew because more than 1 million new people came into the labor market probably seeing these signs of encouragement from the jobs market and saying all right, i stepped back. i haven't been looking for work for some time. now i'm going to try. we also saw a broadening out of the kinds of jobs being created, carol. it's not just the bartenders waitresses very low paid home health care aides. you're seeing broadening out of construction manufacturing jobs business and information
services. jobs lost in the oil patch, not a surprise there as oil prices have collapsed, but you're seeing jobs created in broad sector broad different industries in this country and the wages increase. so there you go carol. >> now wait a minute. wait a minute. wages increase? that's a passion that you and i share, the wage gap. >> yeah. >> what happened? >> wages increased. you're now looking at year over year 2.2% wage growth. that is encouraging. i'd like to see more like 2.5% because i always want a little more than i'm given in the labor market of course. you want to see that trend continue. you want to see a lot of different kinds of jobs created, not just the lower paid jobs. you want to see a lot of different kinds new jobs. this is the most dynamic labor market in the world. it's starting to get its mojo back. still have a lot of work to do. >> sounds good. christine romans thanks so much. still to come in the "newsroom," ukraine's army is desperate for supplies
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frantic and underequipped, ukraine's volunteer soldiers are desperate for help. world leaders worried about russian spies infiltrating the army of ukraine. here's what the united states has sent to ukraine. night vision goggles, body armor, other nonlethal aid including blankets. some lawmakers say it's time to step up.
>> this is a military that really hasn't had any influx of new military equipment since the breakup of the soviet union. it's a country that gave up its nuclear weapons under this promise of freedom and integrity. now i think the united states is in a position to say, look you need to have the tools and the ability to defend yourself. >> a top nato official tells cnn even if aid gets there, it simply would not be enough. one ukrainian intelligence officer is taking matters into his own hands. crowd funding $500,000 in manhattan since june of last year his next stop is washington. foreign policy columnist michael weiss recently spoke with him directly. michael, thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i've never heard of this before. >> it sort of reminds you of what the syrian rebels have been doing for four years, doesn't it? completely desperate at total, you know a loss for any kind of
institutional or governmental support. yeah he's gone to new york and there's a huge and very activist ukrainiane ianian diaspora population here. >> who is yvonne? >> it's important to make the distinction. the way the war is being fought there's the conventional ukrainian army and, you know interior ministry forces. then there are volunteer battalions. he's a member of the volunteer battalions. they contract with the defense ministry or interior ministry. you have to understand when the war broke out a year ago ukraine's military was so defunct that they were taking anyone off the street that was willing to carry a pack and an ak-47 to go to the front and fight. he's a member of a 40-man intelligence platoon that is part of the kiev rouse battalion. at most they were 700 or 600 soldiers. i don't know what their number
is now. so his complaint is twofold. one, with the united states for not giving ukraine the support that it needs and, two, with the government of ukraine for not giving his battalion what they need. we're talking about things like sleeping bags toilet paper, poettable and radio equipment. they're using walk can iie-talkies that you find it paint ball tournaments. they are fighting soldiers that have the surveillance equipment to tap into cell phones and walkie-talkies. it's a david and goliath story i haven't seen. >> the other disturbing thing, i'm going to quite a bit from it. this is from yvonne. my guys have died on the battlefield because they're wearing the same helmets my grandfather war to fight the nazis. talk about desperation. >> yeah no totally. you know you have to understand also the weaponry
that they're using. ak-47s. this is a very old kind of gun, right? the separatists are bringing in anti-tank, anti-aircraft, you know radar guided artillery sis stems to pound these cities. the story i opened the piece which was haunting yvonne said there was a soldier in his battalion battalion, he had his head taken off by a machine gun. they came over and rifled through his belongings found his cell phone, went through his contacts and called his mother and father and girlfriend and said we just killed your son. this is the level of brutality. like tin helmets to protect them from the most sophisticated armaments known to man. >> that's just awful. >> yes. >> you also mentioned in your article, this is sort of like what yvonne is doing, he's running a start-up war. what do you mean by that? >> well i mean you know it's -- you know the people
that are part of these volunteer battalions a lot of them were just activists on the streets of kiev. they were protesting the yanokovich government. they had no experience whatsoever. some worked for tech companies, were journalists, whatever. so for them this is -- this is a really a to z, how to go to war without any kind of you know training or any kind of you know really in-depth professional background. his whole battalion was trained up by a ukrainian special forces commander. we're not talking u.s. basic training here. it's probably, you know a day or two of here's how you hold a gun, here's how umar through mud and that's it. you're on your own. >> you wrote one fascinating article. thank you for sharing. michael weiss. thanks for sharing. i'll be right back. >> sure. financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ alex ] transamerica
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♪ sleep train ♪ ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. as jordan ramps up airstrikes against isis president obama is expected to send congress a proposal that would authorize the use of force against the terrorist group. that's according to the white house and speaker john boehner. cue the political bickering.
to be clear, the u.s. has been leading the coalition effort for months now. law requires them to get congressional approval for military operations. some lawmakers are balking because they say he doesn't have a plan. we have colonel poot ter monsoor and paul kccruickshank. colonel, do you have a plan for what the white house plan is to fight isis or any idea what the deadline is? >> the deadline is going to be years in the making. they say this is a long campaign. it won't be over in a matter of months and they have varied strategy that will take a long time to come to fruition. what that strategy is is to use airstrikes to degrade isis meanwhile building up the military capabilities of the iraqi army and the kurdish
peshmerga to eventually retake the ground zblost so, paullost. >> so paul can you set a deadline to fight a terrorist group? >> no this will take many years in iraq and many more years still in syria because there are no credible partners on the ground in syria, boots on the ground that can take the fight to isis. so this is going to be a really long struggle in syria, in iraq, in the wider region. isis has spread its ten tackles to libya, to egypt. it's expanding in those countries. those airstrikes have halted isis's momentum to some degree. they've been pushed out of kobani. they've lost out of baghdad. they still control vast areas of syria and iraq. they're mixing with the local population using them as human shields. there are only a limited amount of isis targets you can go after. this air campaign is not going to be able to defeat isis
absolutely no chance of that. it can degrade isis. it can't defeat isis. meanwhile, isis is pivoting towards plotting terrorist attacks in the west. we saw that with a plot in brussels last month. >> so if we continue with our coalition partners colonel, to fight isis terrorists from the air, i mean at some point doesn't somebody have to step up and say, look we have to put boots on the ground? it's not going to be boots from the arab world, it's got to be boots from the united states? >> it has to be both and that's why it's so important for this authorization for the use of military force to not tie the president's hands in any way with specific types of military force that it can use or not use. boots on the ground have -- the president has to have that option otherwise, the enemy will know that we have a very one-sided campaign and they can -- they can defend against it. if we have the authorization to put boots on the ground it
probably doesn't mean the sort of industrial strength war we saw in the iraq war, but it can mean advisers helping out the forces on the ground the iraqis, the kurds, the syrians and the tribes if they rise up and be with them on the front lines in combat. so i think it's incumbent upon congress to debate this fully, but in the end they cannot tie the president's hands, otherwise, they may be baking failure into the cake. >> okay. so paul is raqqa, syria, an example of why you need boots on the ground to root out isis? because we know that jordan is really hitting raqqa hard this de facto capital of isis. they can hide in the town among the civilian population. is that a good example of why you really need boots on the ground, to effectively get rid of terrorists? >> that's exactly right. if you look at raqqa, they're absolutely mixing with the
civilian population. they're in apartment buildings. you can't really get at them without killing a lot of civilians, and obviously that would create a big backlash and be very very counter productive. it's the same in mosul. isis is embedded in urban areas. this is not like afghanistan and pakistan where the group's in remote areas. they're in cities and towns and it's only going to be forces on the ground that are going to be able to root them out, carol, in the end. >> and we just got this video in i'd just like to show our viewers because it's so -- well it's pretty amazing, frankly. queen rania, she's at this rally for the slain jordanian fighter pilot. he's become such a hero. i'm sure colonel, that this is part of jordan's pr campaign at home as it sends more and more jordanian fighters into syria and maybe next into iraq to root out isis. >> well the king and the queen are clearly rallying the people
behind the flag showing their support for the slain pilot. and they're exacting revenge for this heinous action on isis. now if jordan really wants to be effective, they've got to sustain this military action over a long period of time and be with the united states and our coalition partners in it to the end. and that again, goes to the authorization for the use of military force. it can't tie the president's hands in terms of a time line either because that would also mean failure in the end, i think. >> well he's got -- i mean it's just that most americans don't want boots on the ground. they don't want to get into another full out war so the president's going to have maybe a harder time with the american people than even congress but we'll see. paul cruickshank and peter monsoor, i appreciate it. they teemed up with the nfl for the first ever commercial against domestic violence to air during the super bowl.
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the nfl's fight against domestic violence under fire this time from the sports biology deadspin. take a look at the headline. no more. the nfl's domestic violence partner is a sham. in case you don't remember no more crafted a powerful ad that aired during the super bowl. it was so powerful it actually brought me to tears. >> you've called 911. this is an emergency. >> do you know how long it'll
be? >> ma'am, is everything okay over there? do you have an emergency or not? >> yes. >> and you're unable to talk because -- >> right. right. >> is there someone in the room with you? say yes or no? >> yes. >> okay. it looks like i have an officer about a mile from your location. are there any weapons in the house? >> no. >> can you stay on the phone with me? >> no. thank you. >> okay. but here's the thing, as deadspin's diana moskovicz charges no more is about branding the problem than educating the nation about domestic violence and sexual assault. she writes the brands have a theory as to why they persist. the issues of domestic violence and sexual assault don't have a strong enough brand. they came up with a color teal a slogan and merchandise like t-shirts, cup, makeup. another quote from her article,
surprise the nfl's big partnership involves ending domestic violence through the nail polish headphones and ugly shoes. who doesn't want to fight this by painting their nails. imagine your girlfriend saying i love that color, then being able to respond with yeah it's my anti-domestic violence polish. it's what we've been missioning all this time end quote. pretty harsh, right? ariel zwang is the ceo of safe horizon and a steering committee member of no more. welcome. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you, carol. >> first off, explain to us what a steering committee member of no more is. >> no more is a public awareness campaign and the steering committee is a group of nonprofits like mine. safe horizon is the largest nonprofit provider in the country of services to victims of domestic violence. and we know that people suffer in silence and in shame because there's not enough awareness of the issue. that's why we work together with
no more and are delighted with everything they're doing to raise awareness of domestic violence. >> so i take it you think deadspin's criticisms are unfair? >> you know the main criticism that deadspin seems to be making is that no more is a public awareness campaign but no more is a public awareness campaign. we do need more awareness so that the crime -- people don't under report suffer in silence and live unaware that help is available. >> see, heres the thing that i think that's in some people's heads. you know it's great when we see like football players wear pink during the games, but p yourif you're really a victim of that disease, do you sit back and say, wow, that's really helping me through this? for example, if a domestic violence victim takes a look at football players wearing teal on their uniforms somewhere, does it really help them? >> you know i look at this a little bit differently. i'm old enough to remember 30 years ago the way people thought
and didn't talk about cancer about aids and that's not so different from the way people are not talking about domestic violence as well. so to me it's more an aspect of overall societal awareness and keeping society aware that these are terrible problems and need help and need action. >> i think there is a sense there's a lot of money flowing into groups like yours. safe horizon with $48 million in 2013 and joyful heart with more than 4 million in the same year. and everybody wonders, you know because campaigns like no more help you guys raise money, and those a good thing, right? but people do wonder how much of that money is going into the programs that really educate the public about domestic violence. >> no more doesn't raise very much money, but the money that it does raise all does go to service providers like safe horizon, like the other steering committee members who every single day of the year are
working to assist people who have been victimized of the worst crimes the worst things that people do to each other. >> and i'll just ask you one more question about the merchandising because we just saw it. it just -- because, really this campaign should be directed at men, right? because they're the ones the abusers who need to be educated through the nfl, right? so when you -- when you put out products like these, i don't think men are going to buy and wear these things. they're not going to buy their sons these t-shirts or cups are they? >> domestic violence awareness is not only for men. everybody needs to be aware of domestic violence and whether or not you buy a t-shirt or a cup, if society is more aware that this is a very prevalent issue. the centers for disease control says one in four women in their lifetime and one in seven men will be a victim of intimate partner violence. everyone needs to know and be aware. >> thank you so much for having the conversation with me.
i know it was hard but i sure appreciate. >> thank you. >> thanks so much. still to come in the "newsroom," we're talking to a former surgeon general to find out if concern over the current measles outbreak is overblown. we'll follow the money behind the anti-vaccine movement. you won't believe it. christina alesci has that story. >> reporter: that's right, carol. we'll break down exactly who is funding all those scary messages about vaccine safety. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. it's tough, but i've managed. but managing my symptoms was all i was doing. so when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. and that in clinical studies the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous
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curious parents searching for information about vaccines will often find slickly produced websites and videos online distributed by groups warning against routine shots for measles and chicken pox but getting that message out doesn't come cheap. we follow the money behind the anti-vax movement. >> reporter: let's start with the loudest voice. the national vaccine information center. they're the group that promotes the alleged risks of vaccination through flashy campaigns, billboards a jumbotron in times square and even a short film airing on delta's in-flight network. how do they fund these campaigns? with the help of wealthy families like albert and claire bwoskin. they donated 260,000 but that's
not their only contribution. they funneled about $950,000 from 2011 to 2013 to the university of british columbia to fund research including a study that linked aluminum in vaccines to neurological disorders and helped finance a documentary which featured one of the study's doctors and the film profiles children who developed illnesses and suggest vaccines are the cause. another wealthy businessman also taughts s tauts the ties between vaccine and disease. and a former financier founded generation rescue in 2005 but you may know the organization better by its celebrity face.
jenny mccarthy. she claims vaccines caused her son's autism in various television appearances including cnn. >> i believe that vaccines triggered his autism. >> reporter: they used her face to raise awareness and money and some of that money supported one of the most controversial critics of vaccines andrew wakefield. the former doctor from britain whose 1998 study linking vaccines to autism sparked the current anti-vaccination movement. in 2010 the study was discredited and retracted by the journal that originally published it. england stripped him of his medical license. soon after he received $100,000 check to continue his research at his company strategic autism initiative. who signed that check? generation rescue. two of the organizations cnn contacted insisted they were not
anti-vaccine but rather advocates for safe vaccines and the right to choose. the third did not respond to requests for comment. however, most of their research finds fault with vaccines. one of the things that struck me while i was reporting is why are these people so committed to raising concerns about vaccines? the doctors we spoke to said they generally fall into three groups. anti-government, the people that don't want the government metdal meddling in a personal decision and the other group who say that doctors make money for administering vaccinations and all of those arguments fall apart when you consider the risks that you are putting others -- that you are exposing others to by not vaccinating your children and the science supports the safety and ethicacy
of these vaccines. >> we'll talk about that next. many thanks to you. two california lawmakers trying to put an end to california's reputation as being the beginning the anti-vax movement say the high number of unvaccinated students is jeopardizing public health not only in schools but in the broader community. we need to take steps to keep schools safe and our students healthy. i'm joined by the former attorney general. welcome, sir. >> hi carol. nice to be with you. >> it's great to have you with us. you heard the story about the money behind the anti-vax movement. one way to eradicate their efforts is to pass laws requiring that all children be vaccinated right? >> well certainly that's a way. the government has a compelling industry.
the individual rights we want to listen to parents and what their concerns are but the individual rights when they don't vaccinate children against the best science actually have a ramification in society where we see a spread of disease like is happening now. so the government may need to get involved to make sure society is safe and healthy. >> in your opinion, does the government need to get involved especially now? >> absolutely they do. they should watch and i believe they are. we would hope that we would educate the public and give them the best information and raise their health lit raseracy to make the best choice and protect your children your family and the nation. >> as you can see, some people aren't doing that. doesn't the government have to make hard and fast laws to get your kid vaccinated? >> it may be that. as i said as surgeon general i would prefer to try and educate the public to make these decisions but when they don't, the government has a compelling interest to get involved because
the health and safety of society is at risk and rising cost of healthcare if we have diazseases that continue to spread. >> we've done a lot of stories on this measles controversy on cnn and some people criticized us because there aren't that many cases in the country when you look at the bigger picture. are we right to be concerned, doctor? >> yes, we should be concerned. go back a few months ago, ebola started as one case and then it became a significant epidemic with death and we still have problems. measles is very very contagious. it has significant complications as it spreads. children can die. children can get pneumonias and so on. it's important to stop this disease. >> is there a message to send to people who say they don't want to vaccinate their child? >> i would say take another look. the best example i can tell you is all my four children have
been vaccinated. everyone in my family that can be vaccinated gets vaccinated. science is very clear. the public health ramifications of vaccination are legendary. one of the best advances in science in the history of mankind preventing diseases like measles and polio that used to plague society. it's good for your children your family and the nation. >> dr. richard carmona, many thanks to you. i appreciate it. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" after a break. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do.
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meet with russian president vladimir putin to convince him to shut off the flow of troops and weapons in the former soviet republic. ukraine is also likely the main topic for vice president joe biden. he's in belgium today to discuss the crisis with allies there. nato leaders and later this weekend russian foreign minister will also weigh in. americans want to know in just a few hours national security adviser susan rice will ute outline the plans for dealing with global crises. foreign policy in a changing world. okay. let's start here. good reason for today's heightened sense of urgency to get a peace plan. nick paton walsh is in eastern ukraine. >> reporter: whatever comes out