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mistake. gloria will have a lot more of her interview with john kasich this sunday. state of the union she's hosting 9:00 a.m. and noon eastern right here on cnn. thanks very much. that's it for me. thanks for watching. have a great weekend. erin burnett outfront starts right now. outfront tonight, deadly assault. a new isis video showing militants launching a new militant attack as suicide bombers kill 40. the road rage murder. one suspect still on the loose tonight and the victim's husband admitting he's known the suspect for a long time. why didn't he tell the police that that? one of the world's tallest residential buildings is on fire tonight. live pictures. are people still trapped inside 79 stories high? we'll have a live report. let's go outfront.
good evening. i'm erin burnett. a deadly assault. new video of a fierce battle just 140 miles outside baghdad. the video released by isis showing the terrorists using american armored vehicles including humvees. the militants killing many iraqi shoulders, graphically displaying their bodies. also in the video. a man seen giving spiritual encouragement to a suicide bomber before he heads off on his deadly ending. cnn is also learning that in addition to isis fire power and heavy equipment, the group is leaving behind a trail of ieds and land mines. it's troubling in light of the american plan defensive on the isis strongholds of mosul. the plan leaving open the possibility that u.s. ground troops could be involved. ben, let me show something in
this video to everyone watch. that american humvee. it shows isis using american weapons. we have seen many of their videos of american cars. where are they getting all this equipment? >> reporter: initially, they had a real bonanza when they drove the iraqi army out of mosul last june. they dropped their weapons and fled leaving behind humvees, heavy artillery and lot offense ammunition. they have been constantly supplementing their supply of american weapons as they've, in a series of operations over the last few months have been taken over one iraqi base after another. really in some ways for instance much better armed than the kurdish forces in the north. the iraqi army is still well armed compared to the kurds. isis has built up an arsenal
that is quite substantiateignificant. keep in mind when the precedence of the isis, the insurgents were fighting the americans, they did not have this kind of equipment. they have seen a huge jump in quality and quantity of the weapon and ammunition they have and looking forward to a possible move to try to liberate mosul from isis. keeping in mind that they have this kind of weaponary will be one big battle. >> they are suggesting that one of isis's strategy could prevent coalition forces from taking it back. what's isis doing? >> reporter: what they have been doing, the kurds have been good at pushing isis back but in a lot of instances where they have
retaken towns and village, in most instances the inhabitants who have fled have not been able to go back because so many of the buildings have been botrapped. these are the people who started in the insurgency against the americans. they are experts at building ieds. apparently in these towns and villages the kurds have liberated, they have left hundreds of them. it's taken months and months to clear them out. they don't have the kind of equipment the americans had to jam ieds to search for ieds. it's going to be a real challenge to take mosul, a city of two million people. >> thank you very much. raising the question as to whether american troops will be on the ground. tonight the white house pushing
back. barbara starr is out front. announcing exactly how many troops you'll send and when you'll send them did seem strange to a lot of people. what's the pentagon's defense of releasing that kind of information, that detailed and giving isis time to prepare. >> good evening. the pentagon will tell you that the information wasn't that sensitive. they gave a broad timeframe, april, may. what they didn't say is exactly when exactly where the battle would unfold exactly the movements of various troops. they say they did not give isis any tactical information that would give it an advantage on the battlefield that everyone in that area knows the coalition is coming after isis and mosul. there's been a number of air strikes over recent weeks at
isis positions in and around mosul to try and isolate them. one of the advantages may be of offering this information civilians who want the get out of the area can make their escape and maybe it puts isis on high alert. if they go on high alert at the end of february or in march, how long can they stay that way? can they stay that way until the end of april? it's a bit of a psychological war game, if you will perhaps on all sides. >> thank you very much. lieutenant colonel james reese and admiral william fallon. thanks very much to both of you. colonel reese, let me get right to it. you believe american troops, in major numbers, are necessary? >> erin, good evening. i do. i think what you'll see here is pretty much what we have right
now. the commander will tell the president here is what we need to do. no one is talking about make the assumption that mosul is taking back by the iraqis. we still have a huge strongholds in the say haven by isis in syria. no one talks about that. one day someone will have to make that decision to go and eradicate isis out of syria. i believe you're talking 100,000 troops. we have assad we'll have to worry about. >> you're talking about 100,000 troops in syria, just to make it clear? >> if we have to try to build a coalition like we have before with the saudis jordanians i believe we would have to lead that fight into syria. we have to deal with isis and we have to deal with assad. with the one saving grace would
be the turks. they have said their looking for our policy on syria to see what we decide to do. if we decide to go we'll have to go in heavy. >> admiral fallon. by some estimates isis has doubled its territory in syria. can the president fulfill his mission of degrading and destroying isis without u.s. ground troops? what do you make of colonel reese saying you're talking about 100,000? >> i think we go back to start with first things first. the requirement that i see for any of this activity to be successful is the iraqi government needs to convince particularly the sunnis and the kurds that if they join this the ground effort then they will have to be a playmajor part of it that they will end up with a
reason shake in the new iraq. it's not going to be successful without this. the ground has to be laid in advance. we can discuss the tactics all day long. i think first things first. our priorities going to be in iraq to help the iraqis assuming that the government does what it needs to do to help push back on these guys. you don't just do it in iraq. if i were back in that position today, wooeds be working the back door with syria to make sure isis gets degraded at every turn. i saw footage of vehicles capture ed captured when isis uses those things they're going to be very lucrative targets. we have air cover, they don't.
it's going to take people on the ground. they'll have to go in. it's nothing new. it's ugly. it's going to make things go slowly. i would expect that our people are working on that right now to help train the iraqis. i think any talk about syria other than keeping isis off guard is going to have to wait until we take care of things in iraq. that's going to be done by the iraq iraqis iraqis. >> you do have to deal with syria. it is the headquarters the base for syria. what do the 100,000 u.s. troops when you talk about considering such a thing, when the u.s. went into iraq 100,000 went what would u.s. ground troops do that would be different? what would work by putting 100,000 american boots on the ground in syria? >> it's not a pretty picture.
we all know that the other arab forces are not, i think they will come to play. i think they're forgive some forces. we'll have two issues there. the admiral knows just as well better than i do, yes, we do have to concentrate in iraq. this could take a good year year and a half in iraq. when we swing towards looking at isis in syria, then you have the assad issue too. i'm looking at a model very similar to what happened in iraq. we'll have to commit to that and then there will be a whole aspect of nation building because syria will have to put a leader in there and that's where we have to hope that the arab countries help us decide how to do that. it's not a pretty picture. >> thanks very much to both of you. american public has swung pretty
dramatically. next 40 people killed by suicide bombers. isis gaining more ground on europe's doorstep. could they attack next? the vegas road rage murder. the victim's family knew the suspect. why did they wait a week to tell police? we're following this. we'll have a live report. this is one of the world's tallest apartment skyscrapers. it's on fire spreading from the bottom to the top of the building in the early hours of saturday morning. this is the torch tower in dubai. we'll have live report on what's happening with this tragedy. we'll be right back.
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more on or top story tonight. at least 40 people are dead in the isis attack. three suicide car bombs exploded today in libya. what more do you know about the horrific series of attacks? >> erin we know that they targeted a police headquarters in a city. we know they hit a gas station as well. this isis out of retaliation for
those air strikes that egypt conducted earlier this week. egypt forces targeting weapon depos. 40 people were killed in those air strikes. we don't have independent confirmation of that. this is the largest attack we've seen in libya in quite a white. it also shows how isis is growing in their capabilities able to target different sites and getting high casualties. this is just another bit that we've seen as isis has grown stronger in libya. erin. >> thank you very much live from cairo. about 100 miles from the south coast of italy. around the world people more and more are becoming radicalized inspired by attacks like the attack in libya tonight.
british authorities are searching for three teenage girls. they say the girls are trying to get their way into isis stronghold syria. jim sciutto is out front. >> a senior british diplomat says it's a clear and disturbing trend and warns that the girls involved in this particular case are at risk of sexual and other exploitation if they make it to the war zone in syria. these three young british schoolgirls are believe to be the newest foreign recruits to isis. caught on cameras at london's airport with their luggage in tow. they believe they fled britain for syria. >> we don't know how the three girls have come up with this plan. we don't know what has enticed them encouraged them to go to syria. we believe they are heading towards syria. we just don't know how it's happened.
the parents themselves are mystified. >> reporter: the girls have been missing since tuesday when they boarded a flight headed to istanbul istanbul, turkey. she's still wanted by french police and now believed inside syria. turkey has been the key transit point into syria. turkish and european authorities are still struggling to stem the flow. the u.s. is tracking the movements as best it can. >> we have systems in place to track these individuals as they could and go. it's difficult to pick up so called broken travel. >> what is that broken travel? >> you fly to country a, and then you go to country b on the ground. we don't know that fact. >> reporter: a senior british
diplomat tells cnn that women are a new and growing target for isis recruiters. the terrorism research group trackest estimates that nearly one in six are women. the network extends to the u.s. homeland. in october, three teenage girls from colorado were intercepted at frankfurt airport in germany as they were trying to make their way to syria to join isis. it was their parents who tipped off the fbi. another american, 19-year-old shannon connelly was arrested at denver international airport last year. she was sentenced to four years in prison after confessing she wanted to become an isis bride and waged holy war. the three british girls are friend with another british girl who traveled to syria in december. police interviewed them at the time but did not consider them to be likely isis recruits. uk police are concerned that
turkish airlines did not alert them when the girls boarded the flight. that should have been warning sign. >> thank you. we just saw images of women shooting shotguns. one in six recruits going to isis are female. why does isis want these women and specifically why does it want western women and girls? >> the appeal to these women, it seem odd to most western women, we have incredible freedom here. we know from things like the isis women's manual that the intelligence that's been collected that they don't enjoy the freedoms there. they must cover. they must be under the control of a man and you wonder why they would do it. the answer is it's much the same as the appeal to men. there's this romantic heroic
notion of jihad that's been appealing to men for decades and now they have turned their attention to women. we know that women have been used in sort of the earlier al qaeda phases. when as couriers to move weapon and money. we see it just as the pictures we have shown during the segment that they use women as fighters. we have seen images on social media of these women being trained as fighters. those two things seem mutually exclusive exclusive. people make assumptions, they say are they some sort of concubine or forced brides. is there any truth in that? >> there sure is. these women are lured by this false propaganda that's there's a rule for women.
women get there and realize that they've polost these freedoms. there's no ability to leave. once you're in syria or iraq under the control of icesis you're not free to say i've changed my mind and want to return to denver. we know they are sold into sexually slavery. sex is forced upon them. they are held captive. this is not the sort of wild west romantic life of the picture that's portrayed to them. >> you see them fighting and there's some who might see it that way. what about these three girls? they're trying to join isis. they were last seen boarding that plane to turkey this week. do you think they'll be able to capture them or not before they go to syria? >> flstthere's a lot i suspect is going on behind the scenes. clearly law enforcement is frustrated that the turkish airlines didn't tip them off.
we know the girls parents are upset. you can be sure the authorities have gone to see their e-mail accounts cell phones. there's all sorts of intelligence capability that will be turned to try to pinpoint where these girls are to try and intercept before they cross the border. >> thank you very much. next more questions about the victim's husband in the road rage murder. he knew the person who shot his wife but he waited a week to tell police. would he face criminal charges. how a common medical tool is spreading a nightmare bacteria. dr. sanjay gupta will show us how it happens with one of those instruments. breaking news with one of the world's tallest residential towers it's on fire tonight. almost 80-story building. a fire breaking out at 2:00 a.m. we'll be following the story.
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i want to show you the mugshot. this was released today of eric nowsch be 19-year-old in kuts di. custody. he was arrested yesterday just a block away from meyer's home. there is another suspect on the loose. there's serious questions about the victim's family. they all knew who the killer was for a week. they knew who the killer was for a week. police were in the midst of a man hunt. why did the family wait a week to tell police who gunned down his own wife? >> reporter: eric nowsch lives just one street away from tammy meyers the mother of four he's accused of killing. the surprise for folks around here is the victim and suspect knew each other well. >> that didn't come together until today. >> reporter: the day meaning the day of stand off. meyer's husband explaining the connection after the teen's arrest. >> my wife spent countless hours
after that park consoling this boy. he's probably watching this right now. i know he's got to feel bad because she was really good to him. she fed him, she gave him money. she told him to pull his pants up and be a man. >> reporter: neighbors say drug deals are common in the park where he hung out a lot. his instagram reveals pictures of what appears to be marijuana. her childhood friend says she can't believe he could be the shooter. >> i don't think eric did this. i think the other two guys whoever is out there i think they have more to it. i don't believe it. i don't believe eric would do it at all. >> reporter: police are accusing nowsch of murder and attempted murder. they are also looking for another suspect. initially police said three people may have been in the car when tammy meyers was shot and killed in her driveway. after that emotional press conference robert meyers pulled me back behind his truck to give me important details that had not been shared. what happened in that second
confrontation between his wife and son and the suspects? the family story plays out like this. tammy meyers and her daughter returned home after a near miss collision and argument with eric nowsch. since he knows where they live she goes back out with her adult son to keep the suspect away from their home. according to robert meyers his wife and son locate the suspect near a school. they're shot at and rushed back home but they're followed. the suspect opened fires again. this time hitting tammy meyers in the head. >> mommy knew who this was. she didn't want it to come back here. she tried to get him to go somewhere else. she was afraid. >> reporter: a police report shows the friends it was one of the meyers who pointed the gun threatening the suspect first during the second encounter. >> sarah you had a chance to speak to robert meyers today, the husband of tammy.
what did he tell you about how all this happened? >> reporter: it's interesting. auz all these details tumbling out. he was very emotional, tears welling up. he was distraught and shaking. he himself, had walked just around the block, went to the suspect's house before police ever made an arrest and knocked on the door and he said look his family his children pulled him back saying let the police handle it. he did. he was trying to make the point that his family his children are not vigilantes as some people have called them. they were so emotional and he was so distraught and he had some inkling that this person might have had something to do with this and he went up to the door but he did wait for police who eventually arrested him and no one was hurt. >> thank you very much. our criminal defense attorney
and cnn legal analyst. tim, police say they did not learn about the connection between the meyer's family and the suspect until yesterday. i'm still very confused. a man hunt is going on for the person who kills this man's wife and their mother. they knew who the person was. they knew the suspect. why would they not tell police? seven days the police are on a man hunt and they didn't tell them who the guy was. >> there's a lot of deception going on on both sides. the suspect, the story he told to his friends that was in the complaint and what family said. i don't know why. i don't know the connection that's established between these people yet. the reason could have been maybe they went by the suspect's house and he wasn't there and they waited because he was in custody a few days ago and interviewed o
by the police on a prior matter when he was a juvenile. maybe the fact he wasn't home is when they were with holding that information. i don't know. none of it makes sense. the one thing we do know is that this suspect now has a whole different story that may provide some mitigating circumstances that are very exculpatory. >> they knew who he was. they didn't tell police for seven days. could the family be held accountable for keeping this crucial information from police in. >> i have the criminal complaint here. when you read it the first half has to be the meyer's narrative. it can only come from the son or daughter. they're the only people remaining. they have problems with their story including the fact they didn't tell anyone for a while. that's significant, but also the fact by their own words, they came home after being threatened and went out following a car. they get within 75 yards.
if they were looking for the license plate they got close enough and they continued follow and continued follow. not just following him but also following with a firearm. they have some problems as i read it in this affidavit. however, once you get to second half the defendant in the case is digging away at his own grave. i mean that figuratively but he made some damaging statements to his friends and alibi evidence that will be blown up. his alibi evidence was blown up. they checked on the buddy he was supposed to be with and that guy says he wasn't with me. when you read the complaint it doesn't look good for him. >> when you hear danny's view on this are we ever really going to know what happened on this crucial issue which is who threat tennesseeened whom first. it sounds like you're always going to have he said she said. >> i would correct danny on one
thing. he said 75 yards apart. they were only 75 feet apart at one point. >> thank you. >> a license plate is clearly visible. they should have had a description of the car and if they know this kid and if he's tloot shooting at them the gun will look like the size of the lincoln tunnel but if you recognize the person it's going to be in your memory. it's not something that will take a week to spark. with your question erin the problem is the police may only get to the truth of the this matter if an independent witness steps forward or maybe the third, second and third parties in this shooter's car. maybe they will be truthful and connect some of the dots and ts that are out there in the wilderness and nobody knows the truth. >> these complaints give us a unique opportunity to look at the beginning and development of a criminal case. you see from this complaint that the police only had the meyers narrative and they adopted most
of it even though there are some inconsistencies. this defendant may have shot himself in the foot because he's told what appears to be lies to the police. he also gave a false alibi and he went and told this is all allegedly but he told two friends accord to the complaint what exactly he did and it looks like from there, at no point does he say he was ever shot at. that have problematic. that could be very problematic if it's true. >> thanks very much to both you have. next the deadly super bug. we're learning health officials have known for years exactly how it spread. why didn't they stop it? they could have said there's a new safety procedure, but they didn't. why? the 79-story residential tourer tower is on fire.
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fears that the so called super bug bacteria is spreading. nearly 200 people may have been exposed. they all underwent procedures with contaminated instruments. the fda has known since 2009 that this certain, some certain instruments that infected patients. yesterday the fda released a safety communication noticing their design may impede effective cleaning. you trust the system theo work and it can kill you. dr. sanjay gupta joins me now. you went today to look at the instrument. what was your impression and
what makes it a super bug carrier? >> i've worked in hospitals for a long time. i've never seen anything quite like this in terms of the cleaning process. it's a scope but has a little mechanism at the end. it's the elevator. it allows the scope to do certain things once it's already inside the body. it's that very area that you're looking at that can also trap bacteria. whatever type of cleaning you can soak that in fluids or do whatever you want but unless you actually get around that elevating mechanism it may not be completely clean. it is a bit concerning because it really relies on a human element to make that as clean as possible. >> i mean, as you point out, just looking at those pictures how incredibly hard this is to clean. that's at the heart of the out break. a human being has to clean this.
others don't. those are the ones where people are at risk of super bug. how do you clean this thing right? >> it's quite remarkable. it's a $30,000 piece of equipment. you have all sorts of cleaning machines and ovens and sinks and all that. in order to get down to the nitty gritty it requires brushes. a 99 cent toothbrush to really get in there and do that. that's what they have been using at this hospital where i was shooting this story. they say they not had any infections in 18 years. they have a nearly perfect tract record. it requires this sort of diligence. >> 99 cent toothbrush. >> it also takes the fortitude of the guy you see doing there. he's one of these dill jentsigent guy. he said i would use it on my two sons my mother myself. that human element of safety
just became so magnifyied watching him do this work. if you don't have a guy like that or the right brushes, you might have the problem. >> the fda knew the cleaning guidelines didn't always work. this has happened before over years. we know super bugs can kill up to half the people who may become infected. this can happen in hospitals. doctors say the worst place to be sick is in hospitals. you have all kinds of drug resistant bacteria. why would the fda have let the companies keep in guidelines that didn't necessarily clean this thing when people could die? >> yeah it's a bit concerning. they released be safety communication but they have known about this for some time. when they say make sure and clean around the crevices of that elevator, anybody interprets that message can be different. you need to clean it for this
long. use a series of brushes that look like this. all of that probably needs to be better spelled out. >> that sounds like it's the case. you want your medical professionals to just -- we all have this hope they'll be omnipotent. thank you. >> thank you. next that massive fire at one of the tallest apartment skyscrapers in the world. we'll go live to dubai next where this fire a blazing 80 stories tall. our special report on the pawnbroker to the stars.
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breaking news. a massive fire at one of the tallest residential skyscrapers in the world. in this picture, you can see large pieces of debris falling from the torch tower. that tower is in dubai. witnesses say a lot of the debris is molten glass. according to published reports, the fire started on the 50th floor fed by high winds. it is now spread all the way up to the 70th floor. the torch is one of the dubai's iconic building. 75 stories tall and outfront tonight, hamsa nuami. do you know if there's people inside? >> reporter: i'm about 100
meters away from the building. what i see is there is a unit a few ambulances a lot of police cars. asking no one to come closer to the building. i came here about 30 minutes ago and you could see fire from the top floors. you cannot tell exactly from where i'm standing which floor it is. but now you don't see any. i think the personnel is inside. the glass you can see and more. >> so are other people on the -- >> reporter: and closer. the building as i said i'm 100
meters away from the scene. i can see any flying objects from the tower or the floor by any means. earlier on erin i saw some car being driven away by police and authorities from underneath the building. i'm not sure there was any tower. erin? >> and hamza, i know it's hard to tell. but it started on the 50th floor. you're talking about molten glass. are there a lot of people on the street? people who possibly were able to get out safely? are you seeing people on the street? >> reporter: there is fewer people now. earlier, there was about 700 or 800 people. now it's a bit less.
i think the main reason police have come. earlier, i asked one police officer. he asked to get any comments for the situation that's under control. but he didn't give any details about what was going on. i can see clearly more cars being driven. sorry. telling me to stay away to keep a distance. from what i see here more under control. not too many people as there were before. being that people are evacuated, but the fourth tower was
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from a pawnshop. unlike your garden variety pawnshop his company, clients, and assets are several cuts and karats above. >> we've done oscars grammy awards guitars from famous musicians. very expensive classic cars. it's a new category in lending. i think we've done that. >> behind steel bolted doors in warehouses like this from l.a. to new york to london borrow stores these luxury assets. not just diamond bobbles and bangles but fine art, sculptures super bowl and world series rings and even this jacket worn by the notorious b.i.g. ♪ before he was murdered in 1997. aitken said he gave $2,000 for the jacket the owner never paid him back. here everything has a price.
as much as 4.9% in interest per month. that's 60% a year. >> there is a lot of trust supply for people to deal with us. we take possession of people's assets. these are assets that they want back. if we get to the point where we're selling, we're very transparent. we pay back what we're owed. if we have any excess go back to the client. >> you can still get that jacket. thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. hey, good evening. thanks for joining us. one of the tallest residential buildings in the earth is a fire scene. flames pouring out of the building called the torch tower. 79 stories, more than 1100 feet tall, broke out at 2 a.m. local time. media said thousands were forced to evacuate. we have no reports one way or another about