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i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the "situation room". for our international viewers, "amanpour "amanpour" is up next. for others "newsroom with ana cabrera" starts now. good afternoon, i'm ana cabrera in for brooke baldwin. we begin with a video that is intense and disturbing. it shows nearly half a dozen los angeles police officers surrounding a homeless man on the city's infamous skid row. he was a robbery suspect. a scuffle ensues. there is a tasing. what happens next is chaotic and ultimately deadly. the suspect is shot to death in broad daylight. it was all caught on tape. we're going to show you what happened. i have to warn you, you might find this disturbing.
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>> [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ gunshots ] >> oh my god! [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> oh [ bleep ]. >> oh my god. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. mother [ bleep ]. mother [ bleep ]. >> got a taser. why you all shoot that man? [ bleep ]. like that. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. i'm going to record this. [ bleep ]. ain't nobody got [ bleep ].
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ain't nobody they just shot that man right here man. just shot that mother [ bleep ] man right here. >> five shots were fired. the incident now under the microscope. an investigation is under way. i want to bring in cnn's stephanie elam following the latest developments. stephanie, the lapd says that victim reached for an officer's gun. is that right? >> reporter: that is what we're hearing, ana. this investigation does continue because when you watch this video, you can see that there are six officers that are there. two that become involved with a woman who picks up a baton on the street. that one of the officers lost. then you see the other four officers behind that with this man. and you hear a lot of yelling. a lot of arguing going on about a gun. and then you hear those five shots that are fired. so they're saying what they're saying is that the officers one of them at least, said that the man on the ground was reaching for their gun and that led to this the officers to then go ahead and use their firearm
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after trying to tase the man several times, the police department is saying before he would go down. he was not responding to not and that's when they moved to lethal force, ana. >> you mention the taser being used. but a lot of people are asking with so many officers involved, couldn't there have been a less lethal force used to subdue this man? how are investigators responding to that? >> reporter: that is a question that keeps coming up if you have what looks like four officers there, three of whom we understand actually used their weapon shot their firearms, why couldn't they -- why were they not able to subdue him? one other thing i can tell you about this video, the very beginning of it, you can see the man actually swinging at the police officers there. it's middle of the day. it's broad daylight on sunday when this happened. it wasn't like anything was absconded or you couldn't see what was happening there. but this is the reason why i think you're seeing a lot of attention played to this video is because there has been a movement in the country as we know when you look back to
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ferguson over police brutality and whether or not there's been too much excessive force being used and that is why this issue is coming up again. you see with this story. although this one is different than what we saw in ferguson from what we can tell right now. >> yeah trks earl early in the investigation. stephanie elam you're on top of it for us. thank you. after this deadly shooting one of the officers was heckled as he approached bystanders to push them back. he was slammed with a barrage of insults. listen to this. >> that's the one thtat killed him right there. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. killed him. [ bleep ]. killed him right there. [ bleep ] killed him right there. [ bleep ]. that's right. that [ bleep ]. he killed him. he killed him. [ bleep ]. right there. he killed him. [ bleep ]. that man. >> can you back up?
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back up. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. take the gun off [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. they got a man laying down there. he's dead as a [ bleep ]. >> i understand it's probably hard to make out what's being said. a lot of bleeping because of many swear words that are used but you do hear them tell that officer, "you're a sellout." that officer, an african-american man, many accusing that officer of being the one who killed the homeless man. joining us to continue the discussion former missouri police officer, ra shrksshid salam. officer under a huge amount of stress and pressure i would imagine. >> toldly. that's to be expected. you know it's going to be an emotional explosive-type situation. however, this is the time that
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the officers and everyone involved that are professionals need to fall back on their training and these officers would have gone through situational training where they were you know attacked and belittled and received a barrage of heckling in their situational training. so this is a time for you to just remember your training suppress your emotions stay calm and then just go forward based on your knowledge and your experience. >> and based on your experience and what you are witnessing in this video -- while we don't have all the answers and know exactly what's transpiring, what to do you see? >> what i see initially is that first you see two officers coming in contact with the individual which is actually proper. because in defense-type tactics or in tactics where you're trying to arrest a subject, you're told in your training how to defend yourself one-on-one. then if it escalates and there
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are other officers around to support you, then another officer joins and then another as it progresses that way. but by no means should all the officers converge on a situation without properly assessing it and give the appearance that there's, like a pack or a gang because at that point, no one's in control. so what we have to do is we have to look at this frame-by-frame and see what were the actions of the officers and see if those actions mimic the training that they received. >> would you have done anything differently in this circumstance? >> well i mean it's hard to say that. you know this is 4,000 miles away. it's a totally different situation or scenario. it wouldn't be proper for me to be an armchair quarterback to say what i would have done differently. however, we -- when we're evaluating these type of situation
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situations, the fair tool that you use to gauge or to come to a summary of what should have been done is based on what was the training in these type of scenarios. >> and perhaps what you know going into that scene, again, we mentioned at the top that there had reportedly been a robbery. this is happening on skid row which we understand is a transitional neighborhood now. but how might the location and the circumstances have played a role and then what later transpired? >> oh it definitely plays a role and we would be naive and we would be you know disingenuous to think that it doesn't affect an officer's mindset going into a scenario like that. they're going to go into that scenario with a different mindset than beverly hills. this is something fbi director comey touched on last week, a couple weeks ago when he addressed the nation's police
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officers about looking deep inside trying to gather officers and to remove the element of cynicism as we approach practicing our jobs. so it would be disingenuous to say it doesn't affect them that the people involved, the location and the area and those type of demographics. >> i want to bring in eugene o'donnell, former nypd officer, into the conversation here. eugene based on what you have seen in this video, what's your take? >> well, the cops are thinking worst-case scenario, of course. there's a robbery call which is the top of the violence pantheon. they get there, they're being fought with actively by somebody. they try to use nonlethal weaponry. that's unsuccessful. there's -- it sounds like there's information floating around in the air about a gun. somebody's yelling things about a gun. so you can imagine in the police business this is at the very top of the concern level for cops about whether this will end
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lethally for them or somebody else. >> the los angeles police commander has been trying to seemingly get out in front of this. he sat down with our sara sidner last night. police just held a news conference. how do you rate the response by officials in terms of their communication with the public? >> they're doing fine. they're getting the information out. the video is there. as a prosecutor i've investigated these cases and i do know that invaluably are the accounts of the people in the neighborhood who will have seen this. so and i also know that often when you jump to conclusion, those conclusions are wrong because the facts will turn out to be different than they initially appear but just on the basis of what you can see on the video which is somewhat of less than a full picture, the officers seem to do everything they possibly could here. not to have this end badly. it's a very unusual situation. any cop will tell you to arrive on the scene and have a full-frontal assault directed at you which is what's captured on this video. >> all right. well i appreciate both of you.
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eugene o'donnell and rashid abdul-salaam thanks for joining us. up next, after weeks of debate it is finally here. as israel's prim minister gets ready to address congress with a controversial speech he just had a warmup laying out his thoughts on president obama and the iranian nuclear deal. plus the battle for saddam hussein's hometown in what could be iraq's biggest test since isis forces arrived. right now they're waging an assault to take back this key city. and mystery in russia. who assassinated one of vladimir putin's biggest critics? you're about to hear from the girlfriend the woman who was walking with boris nemtsov when he was fatally shot. man (sternly): where do you think you're going? mr. mucus: to work, with you. it's taco tuesday. man: you're not coming.
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in less than 24 hours, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu will make a rare and controversial speech to congress to try to derail u.s. support of a nuclear deal with iran. and this is happening as reuters is just reporting that iran is being, "slow to cooperate" with the nuclear inspectors. now, today netanyahu began making his case before the american israel public affairs committee, a pro-israel group and one of the most popular lobbies on capitol hill. netanyahu, up for re-election in a couple of weeks, received a victor's reception of sorts when he walked on to the aipac stage. watch. right away, though netanyahu acknowledged the elephant in the room his strained relationship with the white house and the fact he won't be seeing president obama or even talking to him during this visit. >> my speech is not intended to show any disrespect to president
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obama or the esteemed office that he holds. i have great respect for both. iran envelops the entire world with its tentacles of terror. this is what iran is doing now without nuclear weapons. imagine what iran would do with nuclear weapons. this same iran -- if develops nuclear weapons, it would have the means to achieve that goal. we must not let that happen. >> our global affairs kor correspondent joining us now traveling with netanyahu. her you were hearing the prime minister speak. susan rice is going to speak at aipac this evening, made headlines last week calling netanyahu's visit, quote, destructive to the u.s./israeli relationship. what is she expected to say? >> i think he's going to lay out more about the u.s. case on iran
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and why they think they can reach a deal with iran that is really going to protect israel the united states and the world. i think it's going to be more technical on the aspects of iran trying to kind of rebut, if you will, the controversial remarks that prime minister netanyahu is expected to make tomorrow. we're told by his aides traveling with him he's going to lay out what he knows to be in this deal what he -- the information he has and explain why he's going to ask congress to ask more questions, push back the march 24th deadline for a political framework and really try and put a fly in the ointment if you will, of this deal. i think, though he was trying to lower the temperature, but make no bones about it he is trying definitely to inthwart the deal on the table and for its parted at strigs administration to lower the tone.
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the bickering has made this all the more important. take a listen to u.s. ambassador to the u.n. samantha powers speaking about the u.s. support for israel. >> working together has made israel stronger working together has made our alliance stronger. israel and the united states will continue to stand together because america and israel are more than friends. we're like a family. now, disagreements in the family are always uncomfortable, but we must always remember that we are family. >> well that wasn't sam power but let me tell you what she said. she basically said the u.s. relationship with israel has a bedrock of bipartisanship and it should remain as such and she said that there would be no sunset on u.s. commitment to israel security. u.s. would never let iran have a
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nuclear weapon they would never let israel down in that way. really trying to show the breadth and the depth of the u.s. relationship with israel. she also ana, got a very warm reception by that crowd, because as you know, as u.n. ambassador the united nations, samantha powers really almost on a daily basis refending israel at the united nations because that's an audience that has a lot of criticism for israel, ana. >> semplcertainly the u.s. and israel agree on a goal but it's how they get to the goal that's causing such division. thanks to elise labott. you'll cover his visit throughout. we'll be talking to you as well. benjamin netanyahu ended his speech today gushing over the bond between israel and the united states, a bond that lasted because it goes beyond politics. what's behind this current family rift we heard him say between him and the president? i'm going to talk to the person who just wrote about this rift on cnn.com today, steven
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collison a senior reporter for cnn politics. steven you say it's much more than a personality conflict between netanyahu and obama. what is the root of their struggle to see eye to eye? >> that's right. the bond between israel and the united states you know unarguably is very strong but there's not a sort of complementary bond between president obama and netanyahu. no secret that they're not the best of friends. they really have divides deeply deep them on politics ideology, even on temperament. they both put iran at the center of their political legacy. president obama has made iran the top foreign policy priority of his second term. he wants to get a deal to push the threat of an iranian bomb perhaps a decade or more away through diplomacy. prime minister netanyahu has also placed iran at center of his political legacy. he believes history almost has chosen him at this key moment in the history of the jewish state to meet this threat from iran.
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he believes that the proposed deal that powers backed by the united states are trying to do with iran will not eradicate the bomb and he believes this will create an existential threat to the very existence of the state of israel so they're both very much diametrically opposed on this iran issue. >> as you mentioned, they come from sort of different viewpoints all around on the issue, but yet they do share the same goal. that is that iran cannot obtain nuclear weapons, israel and its people must be protected. then why is there seemingly such distrust of each other? >> well first of all the goal, though it's shared they both define it slightly differently. the united states talks about stopping iran getting a bomb. that is the moment when it gets the nuclear material and technology where it can actually create a bomb. israel wants the process to stop much further away from that point and that is, you know, eradicating all iranian nuclear material and expertise and
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technology. the united states by the way, says that is a deal that just cannot be done. but, you know president obama and prime minister netanyahu are completely different sort of cats if you like. the president is a sort of a college professor type. he's very intellectual. he doesn't like confrontation in public. he triesy sto use diplomacy in solving a dispute. benjamin netanyahu lived for many years in a dangerous neighborhood in israel. he's deeply suspicious about iran. he believes the purpose of the clerical regime there is to destroy israel. there is a complete disconnect on the nature of the threat and also in the sort of temperament and the personalities of the two, you know formidable political figures involved here. >> well, stephen collison thank you for helping us up and what is involved. up next he was a 12-year-old boy carrying a
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pellet gun when police in ohio shot and killed him. who the city of cleveland says is to blame in the death of tamir rice. nancy grace is joining us with her take. plus on offensive. iraq's military launching a full-scale attack against isis forces to reclaim saddam hussein's hometown of tikrit. we'll take you live to the battlefield, next. nful due to menopausal changes it's not likely to go away on its own. so let's do something about it. premarin vaginal cream can help it provides estrogens to help rebuild vaginal tissue and make intercourse more comfortable. premarin vaginal cream treats vaginal changes due to menopause and moderate-to-severe painful intercourse caused by these changes. don't use it if you've had unusual bleeding breast or uterine cancer blood clots, liver problems, stroke or heart attack, are allergic to any of its ingredients or think you're pregnant. side effects may include headache pelvic pain, breast pain vaginal bleeding and vaginitis.
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a 12-year-old with a pellet gun shot dead by cleveland police and now the city of cleveland is responding to a wrongful death lawsuit brought by the child's family essentially blaming the boy for his own death. now, tamir rice was playing with his pellet gun in november when he was killed by an officer who says he thought rice's gun was real. the city released a statement saying "rice's injuries were directly and proximately caused
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by the plaintiff descendant to exercise due care to avoid injury." nancy grace, the police department were recently part of an investigation that found it has used unreasonable force in the past and changes to address the issue haven't happened. now they're blaming the child for his own death. what do you make of this? >> i understand the study and i believe the staududy may be correct. in the court of law, studies are inadmissible unless they touch directly on the facts before the jury which that does not touch on these facts. now, to you and me it may -- we may see a connection but not in front of a jury. i don't know if you've seen the video of the actual shooting it's very very disturbing and i'll tell you why. the cops pull up and there's no time for them to say, put down your gun. nothing. they pull up. this is it right? right there.
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now, remember this young boy, he's 12 but he's 5'7" and weighs 195 pounds. now, at a distance you might think he's grown, but that close, couldn't they tell he's a cop. they pull up. you're slowhowing this in slow mo. in reality, the cops pull up and he gets shot within two seconds of the car pulling up. so there's no time unless they did it over the car's loud speaker, for this child to have been told to put the gun down. now, at the police -- >> why does the city come out and say it's his own fault? why use such aggressive language? >> because this is a civil lawsuit. this is about money. this is not a criminal case. they were talking about right now. and it's the city's duty they think, i guess, to defend the lawsuit. they're saying it is tamir's fault because it looked like a real gun. it looked like a berretta .9. the orange safety indicator that's on toys had been removed.
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somebody had called the police earlier from this park and said somebody here is pointing a gun at people but what they also added was it's a kid and he may be pretending. we think it's a toy gun. that was probably relayed to cops in this cop. lowman is the shooter. i have a problem with lowman. whether this shooting is decided not to be or to be a crime, lowman is here working for cleveland pd but he got let go or quit -- >> he's the officer for -- just to let our viewers know. he's the officer who shot and killed tamir rice. his past is in question. >> he got let go from the bourbon police department for inability to handle a firearm. not only that he's at the gun range practicing and gets weepy. okay? >> so nancy, i'm hearing you say that you believe -- you believe the family has a pretty strong argument in their lawsuit. >> well i think they do have a very strong argument. now, on the other hand, the cops pull up. all they know is somebody's
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pointing a gun at other people at a park. according to them they told him to drop the gun. they didn't know he was a kid. and so they fired. what it's going to boil down to is eyewitness testimony about did they tell him to drop the gun or not? >> all right. nancy grace, we'll end it there. thanks so much. watch nancy on hln weeknights at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> thank you. up next with social media science attempting to crackdown on isis propaganda the terror group is now threatening a new target. employees of twitter. plus a large-scale operation is now under way for control of saddam hussein's hometown of tikrit. can iraq's embattled military push isis out? cnn's ben wedeman is live in iraq with an update. stay with us. well, a mortgage shouldn't be a problem your credit is in pretty good shape. >>pretty good? i know i have a 798 fico score thanks to the tools and help on experian.com. kaboom... well, i just have a few other questions. >>chuck, the only other question you need to ask is, "what else can you do for me?"
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this could be the biggest test yet for the iraqi army and the u.s.-led coalition. retaking the city of tikrit from the grips of isis. the iraqi army alongside both sunni and shiite militiamen are attacking isis strongholds near the city all part of a wide-scale offensive using both ground and air support. and this is significant because tikrit fell under isis control way back in june after the capture of mosul. now, the city is best known as the birthplace of saddam hussein. it's one of the largest cities held by isis right now and lies just 80 miles north of the capital, baghdad. cnn's senior international correspondent ben wedeman is joining me from irbil, iraq. this isn't the first attack to recapture tikrit. what makes officials more
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confident this time? >> reporter: well this time they've really thrown almost everything they've got at it. there are 30,000 troops who are approaching tikrit from the north, the south, and the northeast. they are using their aircraft their helicopters, and this is a force not simply the iraqi army as you mentioned, this is shia militiamen and sunni tribesmen. it's very important that the sunni tribesmen are involved because tikrit a city of around 200,000 people is predominantly sunni, and they are naturally mistrustful of the shia-dominated government in baghdad as well as the shia-dominated army. and so they may play sort of a pacifying role if and when iraqi forces get into the city. now, we hear that they are approaching. that they've already taken some land to the south of there. they claim that they've inflicted casualties on isis and
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they are continuing to push forward. and as you mentioned, it is an important test because some of these troops we believe have been recently trained by the united states and we'll see if they fair any better than the previously u.s.-trained iraqi army that fled from mosul and tikrit last june. ana? >> ben real quickly, i want to ask you about -- we're learning of an iranian general who is there in the ground battle with iraqi forces battling isis and given the history of iraq and iran i mean how big of a role is iran playing on the ground there with iraqi military men and women? >> reporter: it does appear -- i don't think there are any women fighting in the iraqi army. >> i suppose not. no. >> reporter: it does appear this man, sulamani who is the head of the elite army force is on the ground outside tikrit. now, according to the
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semiofficial iranian news agency he's there to oversee this operation. he's done it before if you recall last year when kurdish forces and iraqi army forces took the town of armeli from isis. he was also there on the ground. he's a man, very powerful very experienced in this area and he does seem to be playing a rather significant role on the ground. ana? >> interesting. ben wedeman in irbil, thank you. now, law enforcement, journalists, even pope francis. the list of those threatened by isis becoming a lengthy one and now twitter founder jack dorsey can add his name to this list. in a post in an online forum self-identified isis supporters drew an illustration of dorsey in cross hairs and offered this message. it says "you started this last war. we told you from the beginning that it's not your war, but you didn't understand and closed down our accounts. we'll come back but when our
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lone lions silence your breath you won't come back." now, twitter's terms of service forbids hate speech threats and posts that promote terrorism, and the social media site has been actively trying to take down accounts tied to isis so let's talk more about this with former fbi special agent, and senior fellow at the foreign policy research institute. clint, how does twitter actually go and track the isis propaganda? >> well, there's a couple ways. traditionally what we see is users will report terrorist accounts or terrorist-supporting accounts for violation of terms of service meaning they make a threat of violence against somebody. what we're seeing now is thousands of accounts being taken down all at once which suggests they're picking up on the actual content, uplink uploads coming from the accounts and using the technical measures to identify them across their entire platform. what you're seeing instead of one account going down here one there, you're seeing thousands
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of them going down at one time. the first assault we've seen from twitter against the isis accounts. >> this has been happening the last couple of days. what was the impetus of twitter finally taking this kind of action? >> that's right. twitter has gotten beat up compared to other social media companies. facebook and youtube got on the bandwagon early about fighting terrorists on their platforms and twitter sort of waited. we're seeing twitter after a lot of pressure decide they're going to take an aggressive effort. that is because twitter is probably the key platform for networking both isis members and their supporters all around the globe. >> this threat we just read made by isis supporters against jack dorsey other employees of twitter, what do you make of it? how serious or real of a threat is this? >> i'd like to say that it's not that serious. i don't really think anyone's at jeopardy but then in the post-"charlie hebdo" era, after we saw what happened in the terrorist attacks, groups affected the do it yourself jihad model, they put out a
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targeted list a supporter unidentified to law enforcement can pick up a weapon and carry out the attack for them. you want to discount it, but you've seen what can happen in paris. >> very quickly, what's the best response by the twitter? >> i think the best response from twitter is keep doing what they're doing. i think if you really cave into their demands, why would you let a terrorist group lettenthreaten you for your platform and what you're doing? it's going to have a serious affect on isis' ability to rally their supporters. >> we'll see. clint watts, thanks for your insight. up next murder mystery. in the shadows of the kremlin. who assassinated one of vladimir putin's most outspoken critics? we'll talk to someone who had just spoken with boris nemstov, someone who also went to war. joins me on set next. alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours but aleve can last 12 hours. and aleve is proven to
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rampant speculation and wild rumors are spreading through moscow days after a high-profile critic of russian president vladimir putin was gunned down right outside the kremlin walls. boris nemtsov was a former deputy prime minister turned opposition leader and was shot to death friday night while walking with his girlfriend across the bridge in front of the kremlin. putin's critics are furious, some questioning his own possible involvement. but he has condemned the shooting. he's pledged to find the gunman. he's ordered an investigation. in fact, three different investigations. before we discuss further, i want you to hear from boris nemtsov in his own words. he shared a meal with cnn's anthony bourdain in which he said vladimir putin has overseen a rise in corruption.
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>> we're supposed to be dining at another restaurant this evening. when they heard you would be joining me we were uninvited. should i be concerned about having dinner with you? >> this is a country of corruption and if you have business, you are in a very unsafe situation. everybody can press you and destroy your business. >> that's it? this is a system. critics of the government critics of putin, bad things seem to happen to them. >> yes. unfortunately, existing power represent, what i say, russia of 19th century. not of 21st. >> joining me now, mikail the former president of the republic of georgia. he's also serving on the advisory council to the president petro poroshenko is the issues that are ongoing. thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me on your show. >> i know you knew boris mentsov personally. you talked to him, in fact, days before his death. what did he share with you? >> we discussed ukraine because
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he was prepareing his report on ukraine, but then when i showed up at the lunch, he asked why i was without bodyguards. he told me remember like after he knew the story when putin promised to hang by different parts of my body he said never, ever go anywhere without bodyguards. >> wow. >> here he was walking into the center of moss kou. at night. without any bodyguards without any protection. it's sad. it's tragic. it's also true if you look carefully, he's one of many that have died in this kind of circumstances. the list is getting longer and longer. >> he was talking to you, jokingly talking about your shast safety the threat against you. was he afraid of being targeted? >> i think he was aware of the issues. i was asking whether he was worried to go back to moscow. he wasn't afraid of arrests. i told him he should be afraid of other things. he seemed to be agree to that.
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look i mean look at the -- anna duritskaya who was also killed in downtown moscow i knew her very well just before she was killed. then you have the whole people people who putin hated most of all in europe like president cachinsky of poland. i'm not claiming they were kill bid putin or killed in the first place. there were some circumstances that were questionable. but the idea this looks weird that basically all these people whom putin had had extensive hate they all perished in outright criminal circumstances. when you're dealing with mafia state, it's no longer surprising. the whole climate. the way how they award killers, how they encourage killings. that's hardly surprising.
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i'm surprised nemtsov was killed now. >> i want to ask you about the timing. why now if indeed this conspiracy theory were to prove true -- you mentioned you were talking with nemtsov about ukrainian issues, ongoing fighting in eastern ukraine which we know has taken the lives of thousands just since mid-april. >> well one basically can speculate that with the falling oil prices and with the sharply declining living standards, we also discussed it with boris, people like nemtsov who didn't seem terribly dangerous to the regime like a couple years ago have become more dangerous now. whoever did it maybe had this here in their mind. otherwise ukrainian situation casts a big shadow because there's a big key moment right now. important decisions need to be taken about ukraine. truth has to be broken also to the russian public -- >> did he have some truths that
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the world was going to learn about? >> well, i mean i don't -- the world only knows most of the facts. >> yeah. >> i think russian public is brainwashed and basically are not informed of those facts. the way that's how the system works. even since taking the basic facts in russia become very dangerous. regarding whether ukraine -- two things. in russia the truth is not known. to the rest of the world, the truth is known but enough action is not taken. i think from both regards putin is working in all directions not to allow russian people to know the whole truth and not to allow at least the free world, the western world and united states to take right decision and to react in a right way to outright russian aggression in ukraine. >> and, perhaps, if that's the case that explains his approval rating at 86% we learned just in the last month. >> look this is more tragic. i feel more tragic about what will happen in reaction to ukraine here saying united states, going around trying to tell people about it.
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you know i sit in the office of poroshenko every day, gets news of new deaths new casualties, terrorist attacks, new attacks from the russian side. i see also hear every day world leaders calling. they're calling. there's too much calls. too much calls. not enough help coming in. ukraine gave up in the 9'90s several thousand nuclear warheads. they're just asking for several thousand anti-tank missiles for god's sake to be able to send up to this aggression. so that's a very key moment for -- what's happening in russia russia is projecting a fortune, but also even more outside russia. people around russia are scared. and we need to -- the free world to react because it's also what's at stake. ukraine or individual people like nemtsov or any of us. basically it's what's at stake. the idea of free world justice. >> and that's why you're here in the u.s. in fact, right now, to
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make your case on behalf of the ukraineians to congress this week on wednesday. before we let you go i want to play a sound -- >> hearing in the senate committee, yeah, on the war in ukraine. i hope it will cast some light on what's happening. >> i do want to play some sound from nemtsov's girlfriend who was with him at the time he was killed just to bring this full circle as we're continuing to follow the investigation into the death of boris nemtsov. she had a chance to speak today and said she did not get a good look at the gunman. let's play it for you. >> where did boris' killer appear from? >> translator: i don't know. i didn't see because this was happening behind buymy back. >> by description, did this person react to your request immediately or started calling? >> translator: when i turned i only saw a light colored car, but i didn't see the make or number of the car that was leaving. >> mr. saakashvili, in ten
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seconds, is she in danger now? >> i think -- well i guess she's leaving russia now for ukraine. the reality is that basically the climate of intimidation is so much present everywhere in today's russia. look most of the opposition figures either are gone or are in prison or are dead like nemtsov. what kind of country is that? it's becoming really a very very dangerous place for itself for its own citizens and also for the rest of the world. >> thank you so much for being here. thanks for your time. we appreciate it. coming up with all eyes on israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu here in washington right now, how might his speech to congress tomorrow impact the high-stakes nuclear negotiations happening with iran right now? we are also just minutes away from an lapd news conference after the shooting death of a homeless man. stay with us. [announcer] if your dog can dream it purina pro plan can help him achieve it. ♪ driving rock/metal♪
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