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i don't know whether he knows or he doesn't know. but what he didn't say was what would happen if there was no deal or what would happen if the four european nations and china and russia all agreed and the united states did not. and he didn't make a suggestion as to what israel would find agreeable. he simply said, there's nothing that we agree with here. and then he made a number of pronouncements of terrible things that could happen. >> reporter: but he did talk about the concept of treating -- if iran wants to be treated like a normal country, he should act like a normal country. and he gave three examples, talking about stop with aggression towards their neighbors in the middle east, stop supporting terrorism around the world and stop saying that iran wants to annihilate israel. those are concrete asks, right? >> all of those things i agree
with. all of those things are what makes it detrimental to a deal. the question is that if there is a deal and if iran is willing to give up its nuclear pursuits, at least with exception of the peaceful pursuit and then have all of the fissile material moved out, that that would indicate a change. but there is no question as to what iran has done, the terrible games that have been played. and it's got to stop. >> reporter: you know sort of what the parameters of this deal are. you told me yesterday that you've learned that in a classified setting. can you tell me, is he right when he talks about the fact that they would be able to break out within a year? >> i'm not going to comment on that. i do know this, that nothing has been finalized. nothing has been finalized today. so i think the problem with this
is, it's really premature. i think we need to wait and see. he laid out a number of red lines. that's correct. in terms of the length of the deal, if it's at ten years, israel doesn't like it. they don't like the one-year breakout period that -- >> reporter: do you like those things or does it concern you knowing what you know? you have access to the intelligence that none of us do. so knowing what you know, does it concern you as well? >> one of the things that i've seen in my lifetime is time goes by very fast. and ten years is not a long time. 15 or 20 years is a much better period of time in terms of changing behavior, in terms of showing a better way -- >> reporter: so it should be a longer-term deal? >> my preference would be that it be a longer deal and that we'd be able to guarantee a longer period of breakout. but that's just me. what he didn't say is what would happen if there is no deal.
what would israel do? what would israel expect the united states to do, what in much of his rhetoric suggested is that there's a very real possible likelihood of israel taking aggressive action. >> reporter: is that your concern? if there is no deal, that israel would strike militarily? >> i would -- i am not there at all. but you have to think, what happens if there's no deal? does israel do this? and then what is expected of the united states and do we respond accordingly? do we then create a major c conflagration in the middle east. >> reporter: senator, i appreciate it. back to you, wolf. >> senator feinstein says she personally disagrees with the president of the united states and the secretary of state. they're working on a ten-year deal with iran. she says she'd like to see it 15
or 20 years. we'll see what happens on that point. the prime minister of israel mincing no words in his 40-minute address before this joint meeting of the united states congress saying this current deal that's on the table right now that's being negotiated in switzerland is a bad deal. listen to this. >> that deal will not prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons. it would all but garn teen thua iran gets those weapons, lots of them. let me explain why. while the final deal has not yet been signed, certain elements of any potential deal are now a matter of public record. you don't need intelligence agencies and secret information to know this. you can google it. >> that's the prime minister only moments ago. fareed zakaria, you were watching this very, very closely. an enormous gap has now developed publicly between the
president of the united states and the prime minister of israel. the president wants this deal. he's not sure there will be a deal. he says it's about 50/50, the chances of success. but the prime minister says this is a horrible, horrible deal. >> i think the chances just went to 60/40 against in the sense that this was a very good speech from the prime minister's perspective. it was brilliantly written. it was brilliantly delivered. it was a piece of rhetoric, as some people have pointed out. but speeches are pieces of rhetoric and rhetoric matters in politics. it combined intelligence with emotional appeal. it was intelligent on the floors of the deal. look, the two problems that bibi netanyahu points out with the deal, the number of centrifuges and the length of the time line, the ten-year sunset provision, are problems with the deal. he also then tied it very powerfully to a very moving and eloquent defense of the existence of the jewish people and the importance that they be
strong. i found it very moving and very powerful. the whole thing was very well done as a package. i think as dianne feinstein was saying, it doesn't provide you with a sense of the alternative because the problem here is if there is no deal, the argument seems to be -- prime minister netanyahu's argument seems to be the same sanctions will stay in place, enforced by the entire world. in fact, you could ratchet them up and wait for iran to buckle. that is highly unlikely. the other countries involved that have signed onto this set of international sanctions have done it because they wanted to bring iran to accept what they regarded as a reasonable deal. this is russia, this is china, some of iran's neighbors. those sanctions are going to get leaky very soon. and under the condition of sanctions, particularly american-only sanctions, iran has been able to build 19,000 centrifuges. so iran will be able to continue
to do that uninspected, unencumbered. it will have more than enough money under any sanctions regime. remember, iran is an oil-rich country with tens of billions of dollars of oil revenue. then you end up with a situation, imagine ten years of no deal and where is iran at that point? we know where iran has been just in the last few years, almost 20,000 centrifuges. so i would imagine that iran gets much further to the goal that prime minister netanyahu doesn't want it to get to with no deal. >> and we should anticipate major public reaction from the president of the united states, the secretary of state, the national security adviser, they're going to all be reacting very, very powerfully, i suspect, in the coming hours to what we just heard from the prime minister of israel. the prime minister also minced no words when talking about iran's supreme leader. listen to this. >> iran's supreme leader,
ayatollah khamenei spews hatred with technology. he tweets that israel must be annihilated. he tweets. in iran, there isn't exactly free internet. but he tweets in english that israel must be destroyed. >> let's get some analysis of what's going on. david horovitz is joining us, founding editor of "the times of israel," ari fleischer and mark ginsburg is with us as well. they were watching on the israeli television channel. i assume they saw the whole thing. two weeks from today are israeli elections and the polls show it's very close. netanyahu might not be reelected. >> i think there were people who said he had to give the speech of his life and i think many in israel will think he gave the speech of his life. it was a devastating assault on president obama, really,
suggesting profound naivety in the administration about the rapacious narrative behind the iran leadership. iran has not been the central feature of the israeli elections but it will benefit him. it's a very close race. i imagine he will emerge from this speech stronger. >> stand by for a minute. i want to go back to jim sciutto. you have more reaction over there, jim? jim acosta -- never mind. jim sciutto's in switzerland, montro montrose, switzerland, outside geneva, covering these negotiations. jim sciutto, what have you got? >> reporter: just as an indicator, while that speech was going on, the u.s. secretary of state john kerry was meeting for the third time today with the iranian foreign minister, javad zarif. they met for two hours this morning, another two hours in the evening.
this is their second evening meeting. so these talks continuing. the key concern here really was, were details of these negotiations going to be released from the very beginning of these talks going back more than a year, i've been to geneva and vena an vena venn vee you didn't have any new details revealed but you did have a description of the fundamental disagreement here. and the president of the united states is willing to allow iran not to have a nuclear weapon but to keep a nuclear program. how do you limit that prarnlgs how many centrifuges do you end up with. how advanced are those centrifuges? what do you do with the uranium that iran has enriched closed to weapons grade level? that's the thing, creating a
rubik's cube so that it can be under monitoring by the outside world. w45 prime minister netanyahu arguing for here is not only eliminating the program whatsoever but in effect negotiating a bigger deal, stopping iran's support of terrorism. stopping its aggression in the region and stopping those consistent demands for the annihilation of israel. so the talks here continue on what they're focused on. but what they're focused on is a very different goal from what prime minister netanyahu outlined there before congress. >> elise labott was listening very, very carefully, you just spent the last several weeks in israel. david horovitz said this speech will help him. but he really after praising p united states and praising the president for all the help he's given israel, he then blasted the president of the united states for in effect being naive about iran. >> we've been hearing he's going
to release all this sensitive information and that was the big fear of this administration, that he was going to reveal sensitive negotiations. i think he helped himself by not doing that. what he did was made the case, he lays out the nature of this regime, talking about the tentacles of terror that it has in the region. then he builds up to the deal itself and everything we've been talking about, about the restrictions being lifted in time and the architecture that's left in place and why iran could move towards the bomb. and then he talks about the consequences in the region in an overly combustible mideast, a nuclear arms race and a tinderbox, a region in a tinderbox. so i think he did lay out what he thought was the alternative, a tougher deal with tougher sanctions. the problem is, as you see in geneva, what they're talking about, tla deal does not exist. if you don't have a deal, then you have iran continuing at an alarming pace with no inspections, with no
restrictions. >> but there's no doubt that this speech by the prime minister of israel will put enormous pressure on the president of the united states, the secretary of state right now at this delicate moment in this negotiation. >> those of us who cover politics in this room know this was a great political speech because he praised obama before he buried obama. and that is exactly what he did. he praised him and said, look, we understand everything you've done for us, iron dome, everything else, but, by the way, he's negotiating a lousy deal and people in the middle east are afraid of this deal, when iran's economy becomes unshackled, they're going to only become more aggressive and we're the ones who are going to suffer. and at the end of it when he really veered off into political territory, i don't know if it was on a delay at that point. but when he sort of raised the specter of the holocaust and never again, there was this great -- ari fleischer could have done this great political
speech -- >> the holocaust isn't political. that's called survival. >> but for an american audience -- >> that's not political. >> that's not political? >> talking about the holocaust is the history of the jewish people. >> but what i am saying is that this was a powerful moment, call it political, say it wasn't political. >> i don't call it political. >> it was a powerful moment at the end of this speech for not only the audience back home but the audience here. >> john? >> the prime minister came here with two goals. one to help himself back home because that election is in two weeks. hard to see those images of the reception in the congress not helping him back home. the fight with the american president, dicey. he had to sell this deal to the united states congress. the prime minister left the platform thinking he had done that. his critics will say, we've heard this before. his timetable, the american
intelligence, the american political debate between the israelis, nothing new there. what was most effective, his goal was to put the president back on his heels, to make the administration now come out and defend its position. what was most effective was saying, he said the president of the united states is, quote, betting the security of the world on the hope that iran will change its behavior. his point was, get them to change -- i don't mean to dahl this the little stuff but get them to change the stuff they could change tomorrow, stop supporting hezbollah or terrorism or saying you want to wipe israel off the planet. why would you keep negotiating with these guys -- >> mike rogers, you served as chairman of the house intelligence committee until recently. you're a cnn national security commentator right now. you heard the prime minister of israel. you're privy to a lot of the sensitive information about iran, the nuclear negotiations under way right now. here's the question. who is right, the president of the united states who wants this deal, the prime minister of israel who says it would cause a
disaster? >> well, i think it will cause a disaster. this speech was long in the making. i've been in some very spirited meetings with the prime minister and u.s. officials on any sense of negotiation with iran, even as long as two years ago in israel and back here in the united states. so when they started to frame out this deal, imagine where the prime minister of israel's looking at this deal. first, they leaked -- a senior white house official leaked their plans in 2012 about refueling airplanes. that is about as low a blow as you can possibly get when you leak your allies' military plans for any disruption of their nuclear plan. secondly, fast-forward, they find out -- they found out through their intelligence services that there was secret negotiations by the president with iran. unbelievable. and then fast-forward again, you have the russians last year cut a special deal with iran during
negotiations on processing fuel. all of these things, if you are the prime minister of israel, would say, i'm on the short end of this stick and it's a bad deal. and there are three main components of a nuclear program -- missiles, weap weaponization and enrichment. they get to keep enrichment, they get to continue their research on missiles and they get to do anything they want to on weaponization. >> you think this is a bad deal? >> unless some miraculous thing has happened in the last few weeks. >> you wrote a blistering account of the prime minister's visit here to the united states. you still stand by what you wrote now that you've heard the prime minister? >> this was quintessential guardian of the jewish galaxy speech for bibi. but the fact of the matter is the context of this was, is the u.s./israeli relationship going to be strengthened or weakened as a result of this speech? he is now on a collision course -- the only thing that was missing from this was the
negotiations being in munich and him accusing president obama of being chamberlain. this is heading down a steep slope whereby in the end, he's trying to set up a blocking majority in the congress against any hope for this agreement and, remember, he sees iran the way many of us see iran but the administration is trying to basically do business with iran across a variety of contexts, whether it's syria, iran or wherever. and he considers iran to be public enemy number one. that is the foreign policy divide that exists right now between the president and the israelis. and that is not going to be closed anytime soon. >> did he make a good point, though, the prime minister of sni israel? >> he made good points. but the biggest concern is does this further drive a divide between the u.s./israeli relations and my answer is yes.
>> he was basically accusing the president of the united states of undermining israel's very existence. >> absolutely. when two democracies have a difference, this is how you do it, you give speeches. nothing wrong with that. it comes down to the characteristics of the iranian regime -- >> i know in israel they're very worried about iran, understandably so. but there they're also worried about the u.s./israeli relationship, right? >> there was a divide about the tactic, about whether he should come and make this speech. but don't lose track that there's consensus in israel about how dangerous iran is and how abysmal this deal appears to be and really, of course, it's a huge collision course with this administration because the prime minister is saying, you're endangering israel but you're also endangering the region and the free world. you're doing damage to your own country's interests. so he's prepared to go on that collision course because he thinks the issues are so cardinal. >> looks like a real clash emerging if you thought, as i said before, if you thought it was bad between netanyahu and
obama before, just wait. after this speech, it's going to get a whole lot worse. >> and david had an interesting poll that came out a few weeks ago that said 3 in 4 israelis do not trust president obama on iran. when you look back in israel whether this helps him, i think that israelis even if they don't agree with him, they don't like netanyahu, he's falling in the polls, when it comes to iran, they trust this prime minister to keep them -- >> what's the endgame? i don't know what netanyahu's end game here -- is it to something affect negotiations, which i don't think he can do, or is it to just get congress to say, should push come to shove as a certain point when we have to provide waivers on sanctions or whatever, don't -- >> let me ask mike rogers to answer that. >> i'm not as cynical that he came here purely for political purposes. i don't believe that. i have been in the room with netanyahu when he passionately
discusses with no cameras, no microphones how important this is to get right, this relationship. and a nuclear-umbrellaed iran -- and the first time you'll talk about this is when there are forces going on in pakistan and the united states when they tried to kill the saudi ambassador. i honestly think he game here because he thinks this is a bad deal that will impact the security of the middle east and his greatest ally, the united states of america. and there just hasn't been a good relationship for years. remember, this just didn't happen. he didn't decide to do this. there's an election in two weeks -- >> this was already a tough sell for the president. there were democrats out there criticizing the president in these negotiations. i think this was a tough sell for the president to begin this and the prime minister's speech will make it a tougher sell for the administration. that was clearly one of his goals. >> i want to play another little clip. this is the prime minister of israel talking about what's at
stake for israel right now. >> even if israel has to stand alone, israel will stand. [ applause ] but i know that israel does not stand alone. i know that america stands with israel. i know that you stand with israel. >> strong words from the prime minister of israel. he's trying to make sure, jake tapper, that the u.s./israeli relationship remains strong. it has been very strong. but there's going to be a serious collision right now between him and the president. >> he's paving the president's chief negotiation here with the iranians and the partners as something that not only would not hurt iran's ability to get a nuclear bomb but something that will pave the way for it.
now, administration officials say what netanyahu did not do was present any concrete alternative. and the speech he gave was a regime change spee, calling for new leadership, iran. they say that's just not realistic. that's not part of the options presented before them. >> basically his only alternative short of war, short of a military strike against iran was to go back not only continue the sanctions but increase the sanctions, try to get even more and put that kind of enormous pressure on the regime in tehran. >> the issue, as far as the white house argues, this is just factually correct, that sanctions have been increased and yet the nuclear program has gone stronger and stronger even with those sanctions in place. so if there are three options, one is this plan, the other is a military strike and the other one is the status quo, which is sanctions and hope that iran will cave. netanyahu is essentially arguing for sanctions and hope iran will
cave. and the white house says that is a worse idea than the plan because the status quo is iran can break out and form a nuclear weapon in two to three months under the plan, it's about a year. although israel used to say probably closer to six months. >> the white house is furious right now. top officials -- they're very angry tat the prime minister of israel for this speech. they say it's a lot of rhetoric on the part of the prime minister but no real substance. >> whether or not it was substance -- i heard the political panel praising the politics of it, it was a very, very effective speech. and i think it is probably the case if you were to poll members of congress right now, they would, swept up in the emotion of what netanyahu said, opt for siding with -- especially the republican congress, opt for siding with netanyahu right now. you heard the response. but at the end of the day, it's not a choice of we want
something better versus this plan. it's going to be a choice of concrete realities. >> there were maybe 50 or 60 democrats to decided to boycott this speech by the prime minister. there were hundreds of democrats in there and republicans who decided to attend and as you correctly point out, it was a captive audience. they will pay attention to what they just heard. >> first of all, not only is that going to be helpful to netanyahu in his reelection, which is this month, but also -- >> two weeks from today. >> it also is a sign to israel's enemies in the region that the united states congress is very much with netanyahu. it is a powerful sign of that. >> it certainly is a historic moment right now, a lot of anticipation in advance of this speech. we've now heard the speech. we're about to get a major reaction not only from the white house but from all of the parties concerned, including from the iranians who are involved in these negotiations right now. i'll be right back at the top of the hour. much more coverage on what's
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secrets and alleged crimes, an apparent case of homesickness for one edward snowden. cnn's evan perez joins me live now from washington with that story. evan, this is one of those stories we didn't expect we were ever going to report. a united states contractor who was accused and charged with espionage and took off where he's been cooling his heels in russia apparently wants to come home. what's going on? >> reporter: i'm not sure if it's the winter or he just misses home. but edward snowden's lawyer according to a reuters report out of russia today is saying that he is in discussions with the u.s. government on possibly returning home. we do know the justice department attorney general eric holder last year sent a letter to snowden assuring that he would not get the death penalty if he were to return and face these charges for revealing sensitive national security documents, obviously thousands and thousands of documents from the national security agency. this is something that the
government really wants to try to resolve because they believe that snowden still has access to or control over many, many more documents, perhaps millions of documents, still considered classified and sensitive. they'd love to get those back. >> you mentioned the attorney general. i'll read a quote from the attorney general that came back in january of 14s. if mr. snowden wanted to come back to the united states and enter a plea, we would engage with his lawyers but then snowden said in an online chat that very same day, it's unfortunately not possible in the face of current whistle-blower protection laws. in my estimation, i don't think any of that's changed, has it? >> reporter: no, it has not. it might be just an issue that snowden is getting tired of sitting in russia. this is something that the government is not going to change on. they're not going to remove these charges. but i can see that they could make some kind of agreement
whereby they could come to some terms, especially because they are interested in getting these documents back that they believe he still does have. >> i want to switch gears, bear with me as i'm reading through what appears to be the plea agreement between the united states of america and one david petraeus. he was the commander of forces in iraq and one very big rising star potentially even in american politics. until it was alleged or the plan was to charge that he had accidentally leaked some very important material that he should never have leaked to a mistress. and now there is some language suggesting he is going to sign a plea deal. what's the story there? >> reporter: they've filed this plea agreement now in court down in charlotte, north carolina, ashleigh. under the terms of this agreement, petraeus is going to plead guilty to one count of misdemeanor to removing and
retaining illegal -- illegally retaining classified materials. under the terms of this deal, he'll pay a o $40,04 $40,000 fi. basically just a slap on the wrist for something that's a very serious crime that we've seen so many other people prosecuted for. people go to jail for. so that's going to be an interesting thing to see what the government does to sort of explain this. but there's a lot of support for petraeus. we had dianne feinstein, the senator who's head of the intelligence committee in the senate, came on cnn and talked about petraeus and his own legacy. here's what she had to say in support of him. >> this man has suffered enough, in my view. he's a four-star general of our generation. he, i think, is a very brilliant man. people aren't perfect. he made a mistake.
he lost his job as cia director because of it. how much do you want to punish somebody? >> reporter: and the question is, ashleigh, how do you prosecute a rock star general? and that's the answer, right? the justice department has now decided that this is the way they're going to resolve this. these are serious allegations in this document that was filed in court. petraeus kept these 5 x 8 notebooks in which he kept all kinds of classified information including names of covert agents of the government and he kept these very unsecure in his own house and he shared it with paula broadwell, his mistress and biographer according to these documents filed in court. then when he was asked about it by the fbi, he lied, according to the government. that's the allegation against david petraeus. and now the final resolution of this case. >> you said it, how do you
prosecute a rock star? you do it the way everybody is handled. base level offense, four months. abusive position of trust, two extra months. obstruction of justice, two extra months and then acceptance of responsibility, you get minus two for that coming to eight months because the max is a year. but it's just amazing to read through that and realize you're talking about david petraeus. evan, come back to us if you have additional developments on that. thank you for that. other breaking news, two house gop sources telling us that house speaker john boehner is expected to move soon and could be as early as today to bring a clean bill to fund the department of homeland security. yes, i said clean bill. i want to get right to cnn chief congressional correspondent dana bash on capitol hill with all the news that we have had since last week, this is a big deal, a clean bill means we could move
ahead on this, couldn't we? >> reporter: that's right. what it means is that the house is going to pass what the senate passed and it will go to the president. i should say that this is news that we got earlier from republican sources now. the house majority leader, kevin mccarthy, is telling us that it will in fact be today, probably in the next couple of hours that this vote is going to happen on the house floor. no not only that, most importantly because we have announced that there would be votes that we had expected top pass before only to see them blow up and fail, this is probably going to be different, likely going to be different because the house speaker gave a speech to his rank-and-file behind closed doors this morning, explained the situation. and that situation is that they have basically run their course with regard to their strategy on trying to push democrats to change the president's
immigration plan as part of this funding bill. and there's not a lot that they can do. democrats in the senate have refused to even compromise on that. so at this point, the only thing that they can do short of letting the department of homeland security run out of money and effectively for the most part shut down is pass this bill. so that's what we're going to see in the next couple of hours. earlier -- yesterday morning, i'm losing track of what day it is because it has been a long week. a republican aide said to me that this was so dramatic and it might end in kind of an anticlimactic way. and looks like that might be the case. but i'll say it all day, i'm not say it's definitely going to pass until i actually see the gavel come down because we've had promises that things will pass and they didn't in the past. >> i don't understand what changes just in a few days because it's not like people didn't know that shutting down funding for pieces of the government is unpopular. we've been at this rodeo before. it didn't go well.
the republicans agreed this was a mess for them. so why all of a sudden take it to friday of last week but then only to tuesday of this week? help me out. >> reporter: it's a great question. i have talked to a lot of the members, the republican members who voted against their leadership, so many that it actually went down on friday and everything did blow up. and the answers that i'm getting are basically that they kind of let the time go on. most importantly the senate democrats took their vote, they formally voted to block going to conference, meaning sitting down for a formal compromise with house republicans. and so it's run its course. having said all of that, the point the house republican leaders were making to their ra rank-and-file leaders is because they knew this is how it was going to end. they knew senate democrats were going to oppose any kind of
compromise. they knew this was the path they were going on which is why you had a lot of tension, to the point where we were reporting that there were threats of a formal challenge to house speaker john boehner's leadership and his speaker's chair. so there's so much tension inside the republican caucus still even though this is going to go, make no mistake about it, that should not make it sound like everything is kumbaya in the republican conference. it is not at all. it's just that they decided to move past this battle. there are a lot more to come. the debt ceiling, the budget and the list goes on. >> even before we get there, i was just thinking, oh, to be a fly on the wall of john boehner's inbox just last week and this week in particular. dana bash doing a great job, not sleeping at all lately. no rest for the weary. thank you. other big news, a senior state department official says that hillary clinton may have broken federal recordkeeping rules. that by using a personal e-mail account instead of a state
department account in order to conduct business while she was secretary of state. the official rules are that you're supposed to use government accounts which are saved for public record and are considered more secure. but according to "the new york times" which first reported this story, clinton's aides did not take the actions to have their personal e-mails preserved on department servers. but they recently handed over 55,000 pages of e-mails and cnn's going to have a lot more on this story coming up in the next hour. in the meantime, coming up next on this program, the iraqi army's new surge to take back a key town from isis. and when i say key, how does saddam hussein's birthplace sound? that's where they're headed. that's what they're fighting over. how are they doing? coming up next.
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turning now to the war on isis, iraqi forces are now doubling down the efforts to retake the city of tikrit from the hands of isis. you'll probably remember that isis took tikrit back in june and that was shortly after they captured mosul, which is iraq's second largest city. about 30,000 fighters are now making the push to take back saddam hussein's hometown. australia is also helping more, sending more troops into this
war zone. that country already has an air presence, but the prime minister says his country is sending an additional 300 troops to iraq so that they can help to train the iraqi forces in their fight against isis. and back here in the united states, one of the so-called brooklyn three is due in federal court but in jacksonville, down in florida. that's set to happen this afternoon. and here he is. he's 30 years old. make no mistake, it's a nice picture. but he was among the three men arrested and charged last week with conspiring to provide material support and resources to isis. again, the accusation, the charges to follow and perhaps the litigation. i want to get the very latest on what's happening in the fight against isis is ben wedeman. we have these troops going after isis forces in the birthplace of
saddam hussein in tikrit to try to retake that city, the rumor mill, the talking points are that mosul is next. but what's different about these iraqi forces now than the ones who threw their weapons down and ran and let isis take these places in the first place? >> reporter: well, it does seem that the iraqi army has made a real effort to upgrade itself, so to speak. they've received more training from the united states. and what we have here is not just the iraqi army which was the force that fled from mosul last june. but they're joined by these shia militias and sunni tribesmen. and what's also important here is that there's a significant iran involvement in the operation. they are apparently helping supervise the operation. according to pentagon officials, iranian troops are also there manning heavy artillery and rocket launchers.
so this definitely is a change from the past. iran clearly is investing a lot of effort and manpower and resources to try to bolster the iraqi army here and make this operation a success. what's also significant about this operation is that it was launched with very little consultation with the united states and there have been no coalition aircraft making strikes on isis targets in the area. ashleigh? >> i always say, sure, little consultation with the u.s. that we know of because there are so many advisers on the ground who are calling in these locations. it's just hard to believe that there's no coordination at all between these iranians and these americans. but so far, the word is not officially, anyway. ben wedeman, excellent work in baghdad for us. thank you for that. the los angeles police department defending the officer's actions in that shooting death of a homeless man now seen on television screens across the country over and over and over again.
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the lapd says the shooting of an unmamaronecked mentally ill homeless man on sunday was justified. they say that's because the man grabbed at an officer's gun. despite that explanation, the backlash over the incident continues with more protests planned for today. we have some new surveillance video to show you. it depicts the confrontation which happened on l.a.'s skid row.
investigators say they have identified the victim but will not release his name right now. they did release his street name earlier, at least that's what people had said they confirmed. this is another video of the altercation we can show you without blurring the officers' faces. he falls on the sidewalk. disregard what's going on with the person in the white sweatshirt in the foreground. pay attention to the incident behind that. yesterday, the lapd chief of police defended this officer's actions. >> i think this is an awful tragedy. but the officers took -- on the face of it, reasonable steps to avoid it. had the individual not grabbed the officer's pistol, certainly we would not be having this discussion. >> stephanie elam joins me live
now from los angeles. what's the status of this investigation? where is it going on behalf of the police and on behalf of those who say they're going to come out and protest? >> reporter: well, that's the thing that is happening now, ashleigh. you're seeing in the couple of days since the shooting happened, you know that the investigation is continuing on a legal level. but you also see the community outrage. lots of people saying this was an excessive use of force by the police department. if you see behind me, we're out here at a protest that actually began at the place where the man who is known as africa on the street was shot and killed by lapd. that video that we've all just watched now, they're out here protesting that, saying that black lives matter. it's a movement when you talk to people that they say started with what we saw in ferguson are mike brown. and they're saying this is a countrywide problem. i talked to a few people who said that. so they're out here drumming and right in front of los angeles police department headquarters. this is where they are based. the police are standing by, though. i'm going to take our
photojournalist and turn this way. i want you to see how it's been handled here. after we saw so much of ferguson, you see the police are lined up, letting them do what they want to do, they're standing by, they're watching but this protest continues here with several people. we've been standing here for about an hour and we marched from the place where the man known as africa was killed. they're continuing cough their voices heard. >> thank you, stephanie elam. coming up next, text messages are front and center once again in the aaron hernandez murder trial. this time, texts that aaron hernandez thought he deleted, the ones he sent to odin lloyd, the man who ended up the murder victim and just before he ended up dead as well. we'll talk about that in a moment. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein.
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the jury in the aaron hernandez murder trial is seeing something that the prosecution says hernandez did not want them to see, text messages. messages between him and between the victim, odin lloyd, just hours before odin lloyd was shot dead. hernandez listed odin lloyd as "o" in his contact list. but this is what comes up on his phone. no activity. prosecution implied that hernandez deleted the texts. but the texts were still on odin lloyd's phone. at 9:05 p.m., hernandez tells lloyd, quote, we could step for
a little again. lloyd responds, all right, where? hernandez says, i don't know. and later, i'll figure it out. the final text, lloyd's reply at 12:22 a.m., saying this, we still on? later this morning, another one of hernandez's housekeepers testified about smelling and finding marijuana in the house and here's what's weird. some unusual behavior, handling a security camera in the basement. she also talked about his fiancee, shayanna jenkins, who was crying and appeared nervous the day of the murder. the woman who was scheduled to die last month in georgia is living to see another day but not because she got clemency granted. instead it's because the drugs that were supposed to be used for her lethal injection appeared cloudy. she was scheduled to be executed last night, georgia's first excuse of a woman in 70 years. she was convicted of the murder of her husband in 1997 though
her boyfriend is the one who actually stabbed him to death. there is no new date as yet that is scheduled for her execution. but no clemency granted either. we'll keep you posted on that. thanks for watching, everyone. my colleague wolf starts right now. hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 6:00 p.m. in london. 8:00 p.m. in jerusalem. 9:00 p.m. in moscow. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. up first, a potential nuclear nightmare. that's what the israeli prime minister says could happen if a proposed nuclear deal with iran goes forward. this was the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu's much-anticipated and controversial speech before a joint meeting of the united states congress. he warned that the deal in the works right now will in his words pave the way for a nuclear iran instead of preventing one.