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g us. an important note. don will be become later tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern. much more on this. all the day's important news. 10:00 p.m. eastern. stick around for that. that's it for me. thanks very much prfor watching. erin burnett outfront starts right now. tonight, breaking news. hillary clinton releases new details about the personal e-mail that she used for official business. the former secretary of state admitting for the first time today that she should have done things differently. plus did 47 republican senators break the law? why they're letter to iran is under new scrutiny tonight. in the wake of that racist fraternity chant, the university expels two students and shuts down the frat house. does that go far enough? let's go outfront.
good evening. outfront tonight, breaking news. hillary clinton reveals new details about her personal e-mail account that she used for government business. former secretary of state says that she did it so she could carry just one device instead of two. she insists she didn't break any rules. when i asked if she would turn over her private server to prove it she said she would not. >> did you or any aids delete any government related e-mails from your personal account and what lengths are you willing to go to to prove that you didn't? >> we didn't. my direction to conduct the thorough investigation was to air on the side of providing anything that could be possibly viewed as work related. the server contains personal communications from my husband
and me and i believe i have met all of my responsibilities and the server will remain private. i think that the state department will be able over time to release all the records that were provided. >> clinton stated she had taken quote, unprecedented steps to make sure the state department released all her work related e-mails, roughly 55,000 printed pages and the rest of the e-mail e-mails e-mails, 30,000 or so gone. she said she deleted them all. she said her personal account was secure and never used it for classified material. >> the system we used was set up for president clinton's office. it had numerous safeguards. it was on property guarded by the secret service and there were no security breaches. >> cnn senior washington
correspondent is outfront right now outside the united nations where secretary clinton spoke today. we know secretary clinton turned over tens thousands of e-mails but she also kept tens of thousands of e-mails. we learned some new things today. >> reporter: we sure did. she put a finer number on these e-mails. there were more than 60,000 in total. 62,300 total e-mails. she turned over 30,490. 31,830 she says were personal in nature and as we heard you say, you asked the question she deleted those. that's the question here. she's policing herself. should she be making decisions which are deleted and which are saved. >> it's a very good question. it's still outstanding. her office they explained why she turned over paper copies. she didn't turn over the e-mails in electronic form. we understand that could have
given us a lot more information. why are they saying she did that? >> reporter: you're right. after this news conference the clinton camp put out some more materials. they said she was following the letter of law. it turns out informs a 1995 law. long before anyone was using e-mails. that says officials can turn them over in paper format. we're lose losing so much. you can't tell the sequence of e-mails. what else could be been included. we are losing so much data from this. she's following the spirit of the 1995 law. that dates back to when her husband was in the white house. they are still operating under rules from the past. they are old laws and perhaps need to be updated. >> very good point. thank you so much. tonight, karen finney.
the former communications director for the democrat national committee and doug high. it's face off, you two. >> very convenient. >> you got it. >> i want to ask both of you, tell me how she did. go ahead, karen. start. >> i thought she did well. i think she went into this with the sort of barrier being whatever she did, it wasn't going to be good enough. certainly not for most republicans. there will always be more questions. i thought she did a good job of trying to answer the questions. it did seem at a point questions were starting to repeat. i thought she gave it fair amount of time. she was honest and forthright and gave her answers. i thought she did a good job. >> doug what do you think? >> there's so much that we don't know. ultimately the mezssage she's given is trust me.
telling voters to trust me is something voters won't do. some of journalists won't do either. keeping that server private, that's a sentence we'll hear a lot over not only the coming days but months. until we get all the answers and have access to all the information, not just what she decided we have access to. nobody wants to see her personal family e-mails or anything that's classified. we need confidence that's what we're getting is what is government business. >> wahat about that, karen? she isn't opening up the server. it's not like she has to turn it over to republicans but maybe to a third party independent person who could take a look at it. she's deleted the e-mails that -- >> the personal e-mails. >> the personal e-mails but not willing to prove that there's anything beyond that doesn't it play into something she's not being as transparent. >> absolutely not.
colin powell also writes about it in his book. he had personal e-mail that he did use for government business as well as government e-mail address. this past weekend when he was asked if he turned over any of the e-mails, in response to the same document ask that hillary clinton turned over 55,000 page he said no. anybody that e-mailed with a dot gov server i just deleted everything. we are trusting colin powell like every other government employee. hold on. every other government employee makes that decision. the point is at the time when she was secretary of state, she followed the law. she followed the spirit of the law. i guess what the problem i have with this question about should we trust her, don't we trust her? that says we are going to put her to a different set of standards than her predecessors.
>> you have her saying i'm not turning over this server and do what you will with it. what will republicans do and are they at risk of going too far? >> i've heard that -- i'm thinking of the phrase it's deva vu all over again. it's why voters are uneasy with her campaign. this is a key difference that colin powell's not going to run for president. republicans have shown over the past couple of years an ability to overstep things. i think it's important for republicans to stay out of way. let the clinton campaign try to answer all the questions that come out from this press conference. she only had one device because that was convenient. two weeks ago she said she had an iphone and a blackberry. i have a blackberry too. i have two different e-mails i
can use from that. >> when you're secretary of state and there's a reason why president obama only has a blackberry it's for security. i want to ask both you have this about that multiple devices. she says this is her reasoning today. an aid to jeb bush tweeted this also i believe you can combine e-mail addresses on blackberry. that's also a point. here is the tweet. i have five e-mail accounts, why don't i have five devices? hashtag, magic. >> there's a difference when you have the dot gov e-mail, this is my understanding from talking to people like you would have to have multiple devices. you can't put a secure e-mail account on your iphone. that's my understanding. you either have to have two or you in this case following the law, she has the one. here is the point i really want to make. i think republicans need to be very careful about this because jeb bush has not followed the
laws of the state of florida and he is seeking to be commander in chief because he's only released 10% of his e-mail much of which was already available. >> you're saying jeb bush did something illegal? >> i'm suggesting if we say as commander in chief you've got to be transparent to the point that you should have to turn over your e-mail servers or just trust you've done what you said you've done then let's hold everybody to that standard. in the case of hillary clinton she's made it clear. there's two copies of every e-mail she sent. >> from an operational stand point saying other people has done the same thing doesn't get you out of trouble. look at what was said at the press conference today. i had one device because of convenience. two weeks ago she said i have an iphone and blackberry. >> she's not secretary of state anymore. >> it's still the issue of
convenience. it's the issue of having questions after the fact. she was e-mailing the president. we know that president clinton doesn't use e-mails. if you want to get this behind you, operationally, crisis communication is to answer all the questions clearly and consistently. >> she said some of the information, she said communications between me and my husband. that doesn't mean she e-mailed him. make she sent an e-mail to an assistant that said make sure you're on time for dinner. >> that wouldn't explain being on the same server. >> it would. >> i do want to add saying the other guy did it that does sometimes get you out of trouble as i have found out. karen, doug thanks so much from both you have. did a letter from 47 republicans to iran break the law? who is the man at the center of this racist chant caught on
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that's the question tonight after almost all of the reason senators sent a letter to iran warning it against a nuclear deal with president obama. the white house is blasting the unusual letter calling it dangerous. the new york daily news branded the senators traitors. michelle is outfront with the growing backlash. >> reporter: the white house today let loose on senate republicans open letter to iran as reckless irresponsible, misguided, a blatant flagrant partisan letter. biden called it beneath the isn't the of an institution. just as the senators tried to school iran on their role in foreign policy biden schooled them on the agreements that did not require congress's vote like removing chemoweapons from syria, facing troops in
afghanistan. he says the letters sends a message that's false and dangerous. hillary clinton weighed in. >> either these senators were trying to be helpful of the iranians or harmful to the commander in chief. >> reporter: while the white house has refused so say whether they believe the letter hurts, today the state department did. >> we believer it's harmful for to insert themselves. >> reporter: republican who is sign it stand by it. seven did not sign. >> i didn't view the letter as helping achieve an outcome that i'd like to see. >> reporter: he still wants congress to have an input. he just feels his own bill he's proposed would be better. some others feel the same. >> i did not think it was appropriate for us to write to
try to explain our constitutional system of government. i doubt very much that he cares what a group of senators thinks. >> reporter: a question that's been swirling around is this letter criminal. is it treason or does it violate this very old law called the logan act that prohibits citizens from communicating with other governments and trying to influence them while there's a dispute or controversy with the u.s. government or try to work against the government in that sense. analysts say any of those would be a huge stretch. it's not as if law enforcement now is going to go after anybody on anything like that. another legitimate question is is it hypocrite of democrats to be so furious when we've seen
some work against the president. >> you certainly jog our memory. outfront our intelligence and security analyst bob behr and our senior political analyst. david to you first, how rare is this? how big of a deal is this 47 senators signing this letter that really undercuts the president's effort hear? >> i can't remember an instance in which such a letter has been sent. it was a bad mistake. it doesn't illegal but it was a bad mistake to send it. >> you had bob corker saying as
much. when you look at this letter and hear people calling it dangerous, you just heard peter saying this is about national security and republicans fearing that's at stake here. does this letter also impact national security? >> i think it's horribly transgressive undermining the president in sensitive negotiations. it's clear that the president conducts foreign policy. they're not supposed to get in the middle of it especially with a country that's still hostile to the united states. i can't remember this ever happening. i spent 21 years in the cia and every once in a while we get back channels from a foreign country. we've never presumed to negotiate, offer or opinion. we immediately turned it over to the secretary of state at the white house and quickly stepped out. i think it's a huge mistake.
it's not going to help our relations with iran. they look at the president now as being weak. >> it doesn't help relations between president obama and congress david. how damaging is this to republicans especially when you consider the senate majority leader signed this letter? >> they were trying to get bipartisan support. they needed 67 votes to get a bill passed. i think they're going to have a very hard time getting democratic votes for that now. they've blown that apart. the deal may fall apart and they will be blamed for that if the iranian's walk away saying we can't trust the united states. i think it shows a disrespect for the president, which is ill becoming for republicans. to go to bob's point, let the
president negotiate. you can come in later. if they sent this letter to the president, i think it would have been perfectly permissible and well within bounds because it makes important arguments about who should agree to a deal like this with iran. if they don't make it a treaty we're going to make it a political football in the middle of this next campaign because the republican p candidate is very likely to argue if he's elected or she is elected, first thing they'll do after obama care is to get rid of this agreement. that creates all sorts of uncertainties in the negotiations. i think it was irresponsible to send it to the iranian leaders. it would have been responsible to send it to the president. >> thanks so much to both you have. very important topic that we're covering. next the fall out from that racist fraternity chant. we'll talk to the rapper who cancelled his on campus performance. protests over a police
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we know the identity of the university of oklahoma student caught on tape leading his fraternity brother in racist chant. parker rice is a 19-year-old freshman from dallas. in addition to rice another member of the fraternity has been expelled from the university. we have much more on this story. ♪ there will never be a [ bleep ] at sae ♪ >> reporter: the fall out has been swift. to students expelled for playing a leadership role in this racist
chant. the fraternity house now sits empty. the greek letters gone. students seen moving out remain silent. >> where you going? >> no comment. i'm sorry. >> reporter: the campus paper has identified parker rice a 19-year-old freshman from dallas as one of the students leading the racist chants. >> the video does not represent his core personality. >> reporter: matthew lopez says that's not the person he shows. >> parker rice is a good person with a good could and good spirit that i feel truly did not believe in or did not truly understand what he was saying. >> reporter: new video shot in 2013 has emerged of the sae house mom, beauton gilbow shows her singing along with a rap song repeatedly using the n-word. gilbow released a statement saying she's heartbroken to be portrayed as a racist and says i
have friends of all races and do not form discrimination. i was singing along to a trinidad song but understands how the video must appear in the context of the events that occurred this week. >> the only mom b i know who treated all of u regardless of the color of our skin economic background where we came from, she treated us all with dignity, respect and love. >> reporter: joshua joined this sae chapter more than 15 years ago. he said the fraternity was diverse and the racist chant is not part of the frat's tradition. >> when i was here i had no knowledge of the existence of that chant. >> you never heard it? >> i never heard it. i never read it. >> reporter: this hasn't been ongoing in this chapter for many years. >> reporter: several people say that most of the students on that video are freshmen and did
not even live in the house. the university says the investigation is ongoing and more students could face disciplinary action. >> thank you. the rapper known as waka flaka. he performed for the fraternity last year. he was scheduled to perform again in april. he is joining me. you cancelled your appearance after you saw the racist chant. tell me what you initial reaction was. >> my reaction was when i seen the video, i was more like hurt more like disgusted. i performed for those kids. they made me feel like a brother. just to see what a person does behind closed doors, i was disgusted. >> disgusted and surprised too.
we have some video of the performance you did at the university of oklahoma last year. looks like it was a large concert in the woods. it's a great video. this looks like the typical college experience partying drinking with people there. i know you were able to hang out with some of these guys. did you experience any racism any animosity that day? >> not at all. i feel like i was part of the frat. i felt like i was a frat boy in the woods. i really felt like i was down with the fraternity. i was sae. you couldn't tell me no different. for me to see that video i was like that's what you'll doing behind closed doors. that's disgusted me. i really can't blame the kids. i feel like that's passed down. you can't even make me believe, that's just crazy. i'm disgusted. >> how do you reconcile that? the people who made you feel so welcomed behave like that.
it's in front of a camera. this is with their friends. how do you square that with the fact you had a great time with them and you wouldn't have expected they would do this? >> honest to god truth, words can't explain it. i'm still in shock. that's why i kept sending instagram tweets. it's crazy for us to put something under the rug and it's still here today present. we just need to -- we have to learn how to cancel things like this out. this is serious. this is a serious matter. at the end of the day i'm disgusted. >> so far two people have been expelled. what do you think should happen to everyone involved? >> i feel like this is not a matter of anger. those kids should be disciplined for what they did. everything has an affect. because they did that video, now
they're being expelled. they jeopardize their future and careers. everybody should be accountable on that video. >> thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> all right. any time. >> thanks. >> the offensive rants caught on video, it's not the first time the fraternity has had problems with racism. jason carol is outfront. ♪ you can hang them from a tree ♪ they will never sign with me ♪ >> reporter: it exposed the private world. hateful words that a former african-american member did not understand. he says he didn't experience racism from 2001 to 2005. >> i don't know what happened to the culture of my home but that is not my home. that is not sae. they are not my brothers.
>> reporter: brotherhood is key. the national website touting the true gentleman experience with testimonials. >> better people and citizens. >> reporter: better citizens. direct contract about sae alleging hazing and raisism. 2013 members suspended at washington university after pledges rapped to african-american students using a racial slur. last year members suspended at the university of arizona for allegedly using anti-sematic slurs and attacking members at a jewish fraternity. student outrage after the clemson university hosted a crip-mas party. >> we haven't had time to recover from ferguson and mike
brown. to end the week off we had a crip-mas party. >> reporter: he wrote a book about his experience at the fraternity titled confessions of an ivy league frat boy. >> there were even members of my fraternity at dartmouth in 2009-2010 who referred to the several war as the war of novrn aggression. it was founded in 1856 at the university of alabama and prides itself on being the only national fraternity founded in the antebellum south. the problem of racism and anti-semitism exists throughout the greek system. >> we have to shift the con conversation. >> sae was once called the deadliest fraternity in the
country because of a serious of fatal hazing incidents. the fraternity vowed to do better and we have this. we did reach out to the national chapter of sae. they referred us to an online statement saying that this behavior was unacceptable. they also called it racist behavior. the chapter's president spoke out saying that these group of people were a bunch of quote, unquote idiots and does not reflect the university as a whole. this is a fraternity that's had a history of problems that seem to continue to exist. >> problems beyond racism too as you point out. thanks so much. next as protesters hits the streets of madison, washington. we have new details about the life of the unarmed teen shot and killed by a police officer there. a seemingly simple accident almost cost miles o brien his life. his physical and emotional recovery.
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street for a fourth night and demanding action after an unarmed teenager was shot and killed in madison, wisconsin. the crowd holding signs that read black lives matter. the officer had to use deadly force after being assaulted by 19-year-old tony robinson. we're learning more about robinson and what led up to that night. ryan young is out front in madison. >> no justice, no peace. >> reporter: the outrage over the shooting death of unarmed teen tony robinson pushed into the streets of madison this week. he was shot by a police officer after a struggle in this apartment. according to the wisconsin state journal he dealt with anxiety, depression and adhd. his social media pages point to a troubling time. in one post he wrote i hate my mind. i don't need help. i'm not crazy. he writes my soul is dying. he talks about using marijuana.
his uncle says like so many other young people he was trying to find his way and better his life. >> he was a good, kind hearted kid who was very happy and want to be accepted and loved. >> reporter: he found himself in jail after pleading guilty to an armed robbery after stealing an x box and tv during a home invasion. an advisor tells us the teen fell on hard times after his dad lost his job and apartment forcing robinson to live with friends. after his guilty plea he has grandmother wrote the judge begging for forgiveness. >> for that reason he got love from bad people. not bad people but people making poor decisions and made some poor decisions. i think that's something we can all relate to. we don't think he's a saint. we paint him as a human being, a 19-year-old who made a terrible mistake at one point. >> reporter: back in december he
wrote about police officers using deadly force writing the only thing cops are getting trained for is to shoot first and ask questions later. now his own death at the hands of police is being investigated after veteran officer responded to call of a possible assault on friday night. the officer says he was forced to shoot after a struggle and the community of madison wants to know why. you can see the memorial across the street there. one woman told me this afternoon she drove for two hours to get here because she wanted to stand on this spot and just say something. she wanted to say prayer right outside this house. we have seen friends writing on the side of this house. we're told there will be a big protest here and people are expected to be very out here. next miles o' brien, a year ago he lost an arm to an accident on the job.
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tonight, how a freak accident almost cost our friend here at cnn his life. miles o' brien now a network aviation analyst and a frequent guest on this show opens up about his recovery after losing his arm to a simple accident. a case of tv gear fell and hit his arm. he thought it was a bad bruise but two days later he was fighting for his life. he tells dr. sanjay gupta his story? in a documentary that airs tonight. >> reporter: miles was rushed into the operating room. he thought he could still be treated but complications from the compartment syndrome caused his blood pressure to rapidly fall with the procedure and so with miles still under anesthesia the doctor made a decision to amputate his arm above the elbow. a painful decision that had to
be made and probably saved his life. >> erin burnett spoke to miles and sanjay earlier. >> i know this is heart question but one a lot of people have. you were under anesthesia when this happened. you went in there thinking you would come out with everything okay. you woke up. your life had changed. did you know right away? how did they tell you? >> well when i woke up, right now as i talk to you i feel my hand as if it was there. i felt it and looked and saw it. i knew going in -- >> you found out yourself? >> yeah. that was a moment it was a crushing moment is what it was. i could barely believe it. he had told me the possibility going in but that's you know i'm the king of denial. i was assuming it was going to be okay and it wasn't.
>> miles talks about, i can still feel as if my hand is there. you talked about this about how he can feel the sensations. let me play a bit about how that could happen. >> it's almost like imagine your foot goes to sleep and hand goes to sleep. you get the sensation back and numb and tiningly. that's the feeling like all the time there and on occasion get kind of these electrical jolts and seem like twitches in my missing fingers. and it's a really bizarre experience to have sensation and pain in a place that doesn't exist. except in your mind, right? >> sanjay you say that's called phantom limb syndrome. miles said he has this now over a year later. is this something that ever goes away or something that ever goes through this and so many people now come home from these worse
in iraq and afghanistan who are losing limbs. does that ever go away, that feeling? >> how important it is in someone's life probably diminishes to the point where they don't really feel it anymore but what is happening that you don't realize it's always a two-way sort of communication. your brain is sending a signal to your arm and arm is sending a signal back to your brain. it's this position in space with this space around it. the brain is confused. what happened to the signals coming back from the arm? it starts finding other places where it should be coming to. sort of rewiring itself but the problem is nothing is coming back from the case of the arm. miles said it touches his chest for example on the arm head. the place on his heel. he might feel it in his arm. i know itdon't know it goes away completely. >> you've been on the network before talking about a plane issue. i'm not sure whether it was okay to ask you about it and i did.
you said something about at times, you had gone to a dark place and gone through true suffering as part of this. have you been able to move past that? does that ever go away? >> yeah. i'm past that. there were some times i had thought, this is my life early on. my life as i know it is over. how do i do what i do and be what i am? how can i have gotten in the field and goes places like fukushima -- i had no template for a one-armed tv journalist. there were moments i thought if i can't do this and how will i support my family? all these things. and you start going down that spiral and it's a very bad place but slowly but surely i started just doing things. one challenge at a time and i figured them out. and then the most important is i, you know, never forget the call i had with my kids.
my son was in china and my daughter on college in north carolina. i got them on skype together to know at the same time. here i was at a dad, you want to be super dad.nfallible. >> but they're not 6 anymore. they're 20 and 21. they couldn't have been more supportive. what can we do to help you? that moment for me i realized number one, i was, you know, i don't have to be super dad first of all, to be loved and appreciated and number two, why i was reluctant to reach out to them that's my bad. and number three life is really worth living every day is a gift for all of us and to be loved the way i am by them my family my friends and to have the kind of work that is important and have a real passion for work and i can do all that i wouldn't trade that for anything.
>> i know watching this a little bit of that gift and we appreciate your great graciousness in doing it. and sanjay, of course. you being the one who could bring it to life and the screen. thank you both. >> it's an honor. thank you. >> fighting a tear like i am there? certainly am. miles o'brien, a life lost and found airing tonight at 9:00 right here on cnn. check it out. outfront next jeanne moos with saturday night live's take on the clinton e-mail controversy. is mrs. clinton the only one who's not laughing? mouths are watering, and stomachs are growling. or is that just me? it's lobsterfest... ...red lobster's largest variety of lobster dishes all year. double up with dueling lobster tails. or make lobster lover's dream a delicious reality. but hurry this won't last long. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence
for a potential presidential contender like hillary clinton is all publicity good publicity? here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: rarely does a comedy skit -- >> i want to address that pesky media. >> reporter: -- precede. if nothing else saturday night live correctly predicted some of hillary clinton's gestures. >> if i decide to run, who knows? >> reporter: reveals specific e-mails like the one she sent to bill. >> look at this sexy e-mail i sent on our anniversary. >> reporter: the real hilary said she doesn't keep the personal ones. >> e-mails about chelsea's
wedding. >> reporter: at least hillary didn't have to confess to cyber sin. >> you can see every e-mail i sent. i never sent one. >> reporter: fake hillary didn't hire her ambition. >> i was born 67 years ago and i have been planning on being president ever since. >> reporter: real hillary sidestepped every question about running but an earlier event, described as -- >> a future president. i'm just saying. >> reporter: some are paysaying what a past president once said. >> i did not have sexual relations. >> reporter: i did not have textual relations with google and did not have imappropriate e-mails with that server. >> one last question. >> what a relatable laugh.
>> do i really laugh like that? >> reporter: better to "lol" about those e-mails. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> thanks for joining us. "ac360" starts right now. good evening. we begin tonight with breaking news. the university of oklahoma now minus two students in the fraternity they belonged to. sigma epsilon is gone. two appear to lead a chant about hanging black men from trees have been expelled and moments ago, one of the expelled students parker rice reads in part, i am deeply sorry for what i did saturday night. it was wrong and wreckless. i made a horrible mistake by joining in the singing and encouraging others to do the same. on monday, i withdrew from the university and this moment our family is not able to be in our home because threatening calls and frightening talk on social media. one frat brother on the video came forward.