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. this is cnn breaking news. good morning, everyone. i'm don lemon. carol is off today. thank you so much for joining us on this friday. a lot of breaking news a lot of news happening today. first up out of the middle east america angers its closest ally in the region and maybe charts a new relationship with its greatest enemy. i want to take a live look at this picture now. this is from tehran. you're looking at this because just in a short time the iranian
president, hassan rouhani, about to deliver a national address. it's on a breakthrough in the u.s.-led iranian talks. it's scheduled to happen at the top of the hour. we're going to carry it for you live. moments ago we heard from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, condemning that framework of a deal and says "the cabinet is united in strongly opposing the proposed deal. this deal with pose a grave danger to the region and to the world and would threaten the very survival of the state of really." phil what do you think we're going to learhear? >> don, it will be interesting. it would seem if we were going to make a guess of it words of support, language that indicate
that the iranian president supports this framework agreement, which has been flashed out. and it would seem likely to believe that that is going to be the case because you would have to think that the country's foreign minister would not have signed up -- though he hasn't signed it officially walked away saying this framework agreement has been reached if he did not have the support of his superiors within the country. but it is still important to hear this from the president, even though keeping in mind the president is not the ultimate authority, it still comes down to the supreme leader of iran and what he believes. it is more likely that these words coming from the president will be an even better indication of what the supreme leader himself thinks. so after 24 hours after which much of the international community has responded very positively to this arrangement, they will be looking to see just what sort of language iran's president uses when discussing to what extent he the iranian
leadership is pleased with this agreement. there's going to be one key sticking point we should be listening out for and that is the issue of sanctions relief. already in the time since this agreement has been declared if you like, this framework agreement has been declared we've heard some different views and strikingly different language about what is perceived to be necessary in terms of the time frame, the conditions for relieving those crippling economic sanctions, for lifting them from iran. it would seem that iran is very much positioning itself pushing for immediate total sanctions relief once a detailed agreement, that's the final detailed agreement, is negotiated. that's supposed to happen by the end of june. it would seem iran's negotiating partners are positioning themselves more in favor perhaps of a staggered relief of sanctions as iran gradually complies with whatever the agreement dictates it must do so
or perhaps even waiting for total compliance a situation where iran meets every condition of the negotiated agreement and only then would all sanctions be lifted smutlyimultaneously. that will be done conditionally as all move forward. >> we're monitoring hassan rouhani giving a speech. it has to do with agreeing to at least reduce their stockpile of enriched uranium and reduce their centrifuges and there will be strict oversight of their nuclear plants.
it is cause for celebration for some. look. some iranians are dancing in the street euphoric over the prospect that the u.s. will lift those cripples sanctions. but is there cause to celebrate at the white house as president obama enters the middle of his second term? >> reporter: this is a big risk for president obama. he reached out and took personal responsibility for these issues. you'll recall back in thweatt2008 when he was running for president as
a senator, he received kret sichcriticism saying he would talk to iran. we heard this in his first inaugural address after becoming president and it's something he made note of yesterdaygarden. >> today the united states to the with our allies and partners has reached an historic agreement with iran which if fully implemented will prevent it from obtaining a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: if this final deal ends up happening and if it sticks this will go a long way for president obama's legacy giving him validation of that way of governing but the first issue, don, that president obama and the white house team has is they have a big sale to make on capitol hill. >> it's not going to be easy. what are the obstacles in congress sunlen?
>> reporter: there has been a pushback from congress and they are making notes of what senate democrats are saying. a bill is in the works by bob corker that would give congress an up-or-down vote on the bill. president obama has been on the phone in the last day reaching out to members of congress trying to make sure that they not only understand the details of this deal but in essence don't sign on to it. >> thank you very much. appreciate that. the plan also has plenty of critics in the u.s. from both parties but howling the loudest and most often, some of the republicans looking to make a presidential bid. jeb bush calls it flawed marco rube yofio dismisses it as farcical.
ted cruz calls it a bad deal and lindsey graham says the consequences of a bad deal would be unimaginable. the presumptive democratic candidate hillary clinton said "there is much to do and much more to say in the months ahead but for now diplomacy deserves a chance to succeed." >> still to come the chilling details from the second black box in the alps. what we know about the last few minutes on board. we'll tell you. menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals antioxidants and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition in charge™. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis from the inside out... with humira. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation
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9525. we now know that lubitz deliberately sped up the plane. this is after performing initial tests on the recently recovered flight data report. what else do we know, will? >> reporter: we continue to paint a picture of a horrifies descent for this aircraft and the people in back as lubitz manually changed the settings moving the plane closer and closer to the french alps. he adjusted the auto pilot and engaged it to 100 feet. so the plane started descending but apparently it wasn't going fast enough for lubitz because he increased the speed and that happened several times. we know from the cockpit voice
recorder passengers were screaming, they knew the acceleration rate was not safe, the captain was trying to break back into the cockpit, yet andreas lubitz continued to breathe normally and it appears he was conscious and breathing normally until he brought that plane and innocent people at 420 miles an hour into that mountain range, don. >> baffling. beautiful baffling. investigators removed a whole lot of things from his family's home. what do we know about the searches he did on his computer? >> reporter: they were looking for evidence for some sort of a motive here. they don't have evidence of a motive but they do have a tablet they recovered from his apartment and its internet search history shows in the week leading up to this crash, even
the day before lubitz was searching the internet for methods to commit suicide and searching for cockpit door security measures. there's why officials say this was a case of premeditated murder. he wanted to kill himself and lock himself in the cockpit of an aircraft. they don't have any clue as to why he would do there. he will seen as many as six doctors trying to get treatment, he was having problems with his girl friend he was afraid of losing his pilots license. why if he wanted to do harm to himself did he feel the need to bring along with him all of those innocent people on the plane. we may never know that answer don, but they will continue to try to find out. >> the more you hear the more baffling it becomes. my next guest says he wants to
know whether lubitz was trying to hide what he was doing, trying to play the hero here. i want to bring in accident investigator david sousy and investigative agent rene marsh. david, what do you mean? >> i'm not sure i can still take that stance. originally when they said he had taken moments to change the speed, i was thinking he made movements to decrease the speed, thereby eliminating any warning to the air carrier. with this rourt saying he was increasing the speed, i think it's clear he was conscious, intentful and planning to kill all those people on board. >> the more i hear as i just said after will's report the more baffling it becomes. >> it's just unconscionable. it really is. and to break the sanctity of
this whole breed of pilots that have earned the trust of everyone and then to break this -- break it the way that he has is just tragic. it really is tragic. >> rene let's talk about some possible preventive measures perhaps enhanced anti-crash technology, something like that may have helped in this particular situation? >> in theory don, that is quite possible. right now what the situation is as we know is if the rate of descent is going too fast, too rapidly, essentially the plane going down too fast you have those alarms going off. but in this case we saw that there was no action. the pilot -- the co-pilot did not take any action to correct that path. there was this technology that airbus the manufacturer of the plane that honeywell, they were
working together to develop software that would allow computers in the plane to take over control of the aircraft if for whatever reason a pilot didn't respond to these alarms that were going off, but that project got scrapped this technology does not exist in air crafts at any point. many pilots don't like the idea because they say an aircraft should never be taken out of the control of a pilot, it raises so many other issues. but it's worth knowing that some people strongly believe and i've spoken to others who say if this sort of technology was in the aircraft perhaps the outcome of a crash like flight 9525 would havend ended differently. >> david, remember we had this conversation on my show the other evening about the possibility of a hacking threat and people doesn't like that. it has been discussed since 9/11. why aren't we seeing it? >> there are too many
vulnerabilities in the technology still today. the possibility of interrupting it or hacking into it between the control and the computer. what we're talking about here is the reliability of the pilots flying the airplane and the possibility of this happening, this crazy maneuvering happening and intentful change versus allowing the computer taking over and risk the computer having those issues as well. there are seven different computers in this aircraft. there's a reason for that and there's to back up each other and constantly check each other to see if they're making the right decision. these are the runvulnerabilities. when you worked with the boeing uninterrupt uninterruptible auto pilot, the technology i think it will get there, i'm not sure how long it will take it may not be within in our life tooimstimes but it should
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purchased ingredients to make an explosive like the one used at the boston marathon. officials say the pair repeatedly expressed sport for jihad. one of them asked reportedly "why can't we be some real bad bitches?" answer: because you end up in jail. our correspondent has more. >> reporter: they are u.s. citizens that live in queens new york identified as 28-year-old noelle velentzas and 30-year-old asia siddiqui. in the 29-page complaint, the u.s. attorney details how the
women alleged lively expressed there are support for "violent jihad." the women researched how to make several times of bombs, including pressure cookers. >> my client will plead not guilty. she and i will address everything in the courtroom where it belongs. >> reporter: they say suspects were not after civilians but instead the police and military even taking inspiration from the killing of police officer rafael ramos. they say velentzas considered osama bin laden her mentor and was obsessed with pressure cookers since the boston
marathon bombing. y 2013 and according to a law enforcement official close to the case the women came to the attention of investigators through another terrorism investigation. people in developvelentzas' neighborhood expresseds did belief. >> she's a very lovely woman. that is so crazy. >> she's right, that is so
crazy. let's talk with the former assistant director of the fbi, bill gavin, is with us. also joining us is the assistant deputy director at n.i.s. one of these suspects wrote a poeium back in 2009. why do you think, bill it took so long to zero in on these suspects? >> it's not the easiest thing in the world. the intelligence and law enforcement services can't cover what everybody is doing at the same time. the fortunate part is we did get these people up on the grid through informants overseas and were able to stop them. it's another classic case don, of a horrible set of circumstances where two united states citizens plotting against
citizens of the united states to kill wound and mutilate them yet living a relatively sedentary life in their neighborhoods. it's just horrible. >> during the investigation at one point -- at what point do authorities decide whether the line has been crossed? and there's a real threat because they had been under surveillance for quite some time. >> typically there's a tip from the public. once it's validated, it reaches an investigation and then an undercover operation to go against the targets. >> why do you think it was at this very moment? >> what you have here whether it's the nypd or joint terrorism
or task force, once something reaches the threshold -- >> the women go off aboard go off to isis. they don't sound like they had plans to go overseas. they wanted to do attacks here. they were looking at the funerals of two police officer last year zeroing in on undercover officers as well. what gives here? why not go overseas for isis? >> sometimes it's just as simple as the individual just doesn't have the capability to get overseas. although data is still really thin because this is a relatively new phenomenon in the era we're in. the data we have we see push and pull factors. the biggest full factors are the battle fields whether it's syria or other places.
the push factor typically it's a personal face-to-face relationship even more so than social media. once the individual latches on to those ideas, then you have different swirling motivations and it may be the case where they would like to get to a place like syria but can't get there. >> bill, same question to you. why not overseas? >> i don't think they go overseas because they were much more advantageous to commit the acts here. these people are already here they've downloaded the cookbook they have purchased materials to make a bomb. it's advantageous for them to be right on site and losing less of a chance getting caught going across borders and what not. it works both ways to go over there and be trained yet by the same token having citizens willing to do those things.
>> i'm up against the clock, but do you think getting a lot of the information online do you think there's real information to be got i don't know from investigators or do you think these were sort of lone wolves? first to you, bill? >> i think that probably they radicalized online and then they decided to become lone wolf kind of individuals. i don't think any of them either one of these two women, had the inclination to go overseas and do anything like that. they decided they would do it on their own. they had no contact, from what i understand at there point in time. they had no direct contact with isis. >> and to your question, done there's information to be gained. every one of these instances represents a case study on how you mitigate these situations. >> bill gavin, robert mcfadden, thank you very much, gentlemen. >> still to come anger about
we're learning more about how the gunman went straight through the gates, bypassing the mosque knowing muslims were in morning prayer. >> jumping up and down for their lives. unfortunately where they were going to is where the gunshot were coming. >> a manhunt is still under way for the suspected master mind mohamed mohamud. witnesses say the students were easy targets. you compared this to one last month at the bardo museum. was this a copycat attempt? >> it was a typical attack armed guys trained, probably combat experience and prepared to give up their lives. these targets like the bardo
museum are indefensible. once you defend something like the museum in tunisia or this university they simply move to the next target. how do you protect all of the vulnerable targets in kenya? you simply can't. they know it. they think they're getting more adherence. they want to bring this war to kenya hoping that kenya pulls troops out of somalia. that's to be seen but a country like kenya is under constant threat. >> the group al shabaab claiming responsibility. he has aliases. police say he served as a principal in a school between 1997 and 2000 and he has a track record of alleged attacks. he has a huge bounty on his head. how significant is it authorities are going after this guy? >> i think it's significant in
the sense of disrupting the organization. but at the end of the day, these guys can, you know anybody from the ranks can rise up and take over leadership assassination either by drone or otherwise just isn't going to defeat this group. this is an ideology that we're fighting and these things usually burn themselves out as opposed to political murder. it's just not going to work. i just don't think it will. >> so fill us in here on the timing of this and the militants singling out christians, bob. >> you know i tie all of these groups together, whether the islamic state, they are sunnis on the offensive. they'll look at a battle like tikrit which they lost and say
we'll fight back in damascus. we'll see them lose battles, major battles but then they'll pop up somewhere else and they don't care where because they want to carry on the struggle. i call it a disease, a virus, whatever you want. they don't need a central control. they just need weapons and they need people prepared to die. >> unfortunate enough to witness but fortunate enough to survive some are now describing that describing that attack to the media. victims found with their face down shot in the back of their heads. talk to us about the brutality of this event, bob. >> well i mean, that is -- that's precisely the brutality that they're after. they want to kill as many people as they can. they want to make a statement, they want to destroy, you know any sense of security in a place like kenya.
and by slaughter is the way they think they can do it and also a purified sense of determination for islam. this is an islam based in saudi arabia but it been adopted by these people and they think the purity and the violence will lead to their survival. >> bob baer thank you very much. from kenya to iran now, just moments ago iran's president delivered a national address on the breakthrough in the u.s.-led talks in this country. we go now live to london. what did he say, phil? >> he really praised this agreement that has been reached, spoke in very glowing, they favorable terms and took credit for it too, saying it was a process that he and his government had begun when he was first elected and this was the latest step in that. he talks about how this world
acknowledges and accepts iran has a peaceful nuclear program, and it should result in the releasing of sanctions. he said and acknowledged that even in iran there is considerable debate over how iran should engage with the rest of the war. he said you don't have to fight a war, you don't have to capitulate, there is a third way and this is it, cooperation. and he discussed the supreme leader's role in this process as being indispensable. >> phil black in london. thank you. >> still to come a missing sailor reunited with his family after more than two months stranded at sea. his incredible story of survival is next.
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an incredible story of survival after spending more than two months stranded at sea. a sailor is back on dry land. you can see him here walking remarkably off a rescue chopper. very lucky. nick nick valencia is covering this for us. you spoke to him just hours after his rescue. what's up? >> reporter: i talked to him at the hospital just a few hour after he was rescued. it was a very emotional meeting with his father. i asked the coast guard yesterday if they had any reason to be suspicious about his story? they said no. they said it was so remarkable that he was able to survive out
there in likely frigid temperatures. when i spoke to louis jordan i asked him how he made it. >> well, i was living on my boat. when i got hungry i just threw my cast net and caught some fish. free food, free rent living in the water. i took my sail boat out to the ocean to go fishing and my sail boat got capsized turned all the way around and i had broken my shoulder. you see my collar bone here. it has a big knot in it that shouldn't be there. so i have this big bruise here and i couldn't tear my mast right away. i had to wait quite a while for the shoulder to heal. i was running out of water, drinking a pint of water, rationing that water, almost out, almost out. finally god answered my prayer.
that water kept me going. >> reporter: his intention initially was to go out there to try to go to the gulfstream to catch big areger fish. he had been working in a marina and the fish stopped coming. i asked him was this an intended trip into the unknown? he said that's really what life was about, he spoke more in abstracts and that the bible and god got him through it all. he had his first meal yesterday. he was very happy to be eating some barbecue ribs and be back on land. >> no fish for him. he wanted some red meat. nick nick valencia thank you very much. cnn breaking news. >> this breaking news has to do with hillary clinton and whether or not she is going to run in 2016. here's what cnn has learned. it's from cnn's jeff-- hillary
clinton has signed a lease in brooklyn to house her 2016 campaign headquarters. hillary clinton has signed a lease in brooklyn believing it's going to be the place that's going to house her 2016 presidential campaign the headquarters at least. it's where the headquarters will be run out of 1 pierpoint plaza in brooklyn heights. a hot place right now. the new york borough has been widely expected to host a democratic front-runner's operation. on and on. of course you know hillary clinton was a senator from here in new york. again, according to our reporters, our producer in washington hillary clinton's campaign signing a lease in brooklyn to house her 2016 presidential campaign.
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role. >> the first thing she wants to do is to hug the person she followed and loved. jesus has to tell her i'm not ready yet to be clung to. >> mary is the first one to whom the risen christ appears, so she is of immense importance to christianity. for that hour or two, she was the only one who knew about the resurrection so she was the church. >> for all her central role at the time of the resurrection mary then disappears from the story of the early church. >> one of the great mysteries of early christianity is what happened to mary magdalene
because there she is at the end of his life and at the tomb and experiencing the resurrection and then we don't hear any more about her. >> this whole series is fascinating. michael mckinley joins me now. he is the co-author of "finding jesus, faith, fact forgery." tell us about mary magdalene. what was her role? >> she's very interesting. she calls from a fishing town. she's identified in the gas pellospel as one of the women who supported him with her own resources so she's got money. you imagine traveling the holy land they've got to eat and get new sandals and things like that and somebody has to pay the
bills. >> there's a piece of this that seems to have swrees us referjesus referring to his wife. was mary mag deldalene his wife? >> i think the more interesting question is she's really essential in the conveyance of his message and not just the pastor's wife if you will. people who consider her seriously look at what actually was her ministerial role. >> did she help dpfund his mission, giving resources? >> she did. and joanna married to harold steward, she had money and they helped not only fund the mission but help it spread. >> thank you, it's fascinating. you can find out much much more
about mary magdalene. you can see the final episode of "finding jesus" easter sunday. let's get back to our breaking news. the race for the white house and hillary clinton, just signing a lease for a campaign headquarters in brooklyn. mr. chris moody is live in washington following all the developments. what do you know? >> reporter: well she has signed a lease for an office in brook brooklyn as you just mentioned. that suggests to us the campaign announcement is coming up very soon. there are rules that say you have to announce the campaign once you engage in activities like this. i think there are a lot of benefits to having it in a location like this. new york city is accessible to a lot of volunteers that can come in on the transit lines to get there easily to put in a couple
of hours of phone banking and it's close to her old political network as a senator of new york. the only negatives i can think of at this time is really the expense. in order to have a thriving large, campaign staff, people are not necessarily paid a lot of money on campaigns and new york is a very expense of place to be. also the rent. but i think the presumed clinton campaign is anticipating the benefits are really going to outweigh that negative here. >> srihe said she was going to make an announcement sometime in early april. it's early april now. it would be coming up on that time to do it. she's the former senator from new york. it's easy to get around the public transportation is excellent and also the democratic national convention is pitching brooklyn as well. >> there has been a lot of talk about that. they're looking at that area. that i think would make sense in a lot of ways. brooklyn is flownknown as a hip part
of new york a lot of young people there. having access to the major media center could be a really good way to get the message out into the country. >> let's not forget about manhattan, new york city as a whole, as a matter of fact because the clinton foundation her husband's foundation is in manhattan, in harlem just a few blocks from my home. it makes sense that she would have her campaign headquarters in new york city. >> it's a place that they know well through their foundation work as well as her time as senate, the political network is all there. you go to where your people are. >> all right, chris moody, thank you very much. there you go hillary clinton signing a lease in brooklyn, supposedly to be her campaign headquarters for 2016. stay tuned. >> doctors telling the pope to cut carbs.
does he really have a pasta problem? >> reporter: nobody likes being told to put down their fork. imagine how the pope felt when his doctor said -- >> lay off the pasta. >> reportedly doctors told pope francis to eat less pasta and get more exercise. since he became pope he's grown more than in just stature but also in size. he got some non-medical advice from a spaghetti eating cardinal dolan on the "today" show. >> holy father, you said you always listen to your cardinals. listen to. get a new doctor. >> reporter: it's reported the doctors doctors wanted him to eat pasta
just two days a week. is it okay for him it eat pizza from his pope mobile? he's been immortalized in cake in chocolate. who knew chocolate can look so slimming. the pope is known to suffer from back pain and sciatica. unofficially we hear the pope's doctors denied speaking to the press. however, size doesn't stop him from being a nonmagnet. >> do you like it enough to wear it? >> reporter: this pope could wear anything and people would still go crazy. at least there's plenty of him for a kid to hold on to. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> oh, poor popy.
you got to stop handing him the pizzas in line. just giving him pizza. no pasta for you, pope. we got to keep you healthy. have a great easter everyone. i'm don lemon. "at this hour" starts right now. new job numbers are out and already being called a big miss. what happened and what does it mean for you? >> germanwings co-pilot pushed the explainies descent, speeding up the crash into the french alps. the results from the second black box confirm he acted deliberately. >> and a sailor reunited with his family after two months at sea. the story behind his survival and rescue.