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s still married to at least four of them. we are so grateful for your company as always. we hope you go out and make great memories today. >> much more ahead in the cnn newsroom. we turn things over to fredricka witfield. >> good to see you guys. >> thank you so much. >> i like the sunny yellow. >> very sunny. >> entire studio. >> i do what i can. we're in good hands with you for the next few hours. >> good to see you guys. it is the 11:00 eastern hour. i'm fredricka whitfield. "the newsroom" starts right now. family and friends are saying good-bye to walter scott today, the 50-year-old was shot and killed by north charleston police officers michael slager one week ago today. slager has been charged with murder. we're getting new information about the person in the car with
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scott before he was killed. as you look at pictures outside the funeral services now. dash cam video the passenger could be seen on the police cruiser's dash cam circled to the right. this is new video of the passenger in the striped shirt talking with another officer. state authorities say they have met with this person and he has been released without charges. cnn is in summerville, south carolina where the funeral service is about to get started. what more can you tell us about the passenger and any information that person may have? >> you know fred it's going to be key to the investigation as we try to hear more from this person who's really just being considered at this point the mystery passenger. that's part of the very crucial part of the investigation not only for the defense but for the case itself. meantime back out here live to what is summerville, south carolina in the last few moments, significant development here large procession just
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arrived here at the head of that several limousines we believe that was, obviously transporting mr. scott's family. at this point we do know that this is happening ahead of that scheduled start time for this funeral ceremony still scheduled to begin here any moment now. at this point we do understand that this facility will likely exceed its capacity. we've seen a very large crowd gather outside of ward ministries here in summerville. i can tell you that crowd i'm looking at here fred far exceeds the 400 person limit that is expected here. now at the same time we are being told that the ceremony could potentially last at least three hours. so this will be perhaps one of the longer ones we've seen here in recent days. now as for the community itself here it's -- what we're seeing is really several members of the community rallying behind the scott family. we heard from several of their supporters who said they plan to really pull back or hold back on any protests or demonstrations
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today is really about being there for the scott family a day after those eight shots rang out. fred? >> and polo sandoval, again, looks like a lot of people who are there outside of that church and when, of course, the funeral service gets under way we will bring more information on that and keep us updated on the investigation. meantime in california an investigation under way into the apparent police beating of a man after a chase on horseback. officials says the suspect fled on a horse as deputies were trying to serve a search warrant. the chase ended with the suspect falling off the horse and then spreading his hands out above his head. and then as you see in these images right here deputies using a taser and beating the suspect as a news helicopter filmed the whole incident. this is what the attorney for the man being arrested had to say. >> somebody should go to prison over this. what i saw on the television was thugs beating up my client.
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that's what i saw. and these questions about what was he doing. what did they do? this is far worse than rodney king. >> all right. let's bring in our panel lot to talk about, civil rights attorney avery friedman is here in atlanta with me usually out of cleveland, and we are lucky to have him in atlanta and cnn political commentator van jones joining us from los angeles. good to see you as well. gentlemen, a lot to talk about. let's talk about the situation in california. van, that's where you in los angeles. what more is being said in circles there about the imagery this caught on a news helicopter showing a man who appears to be sur rendering, but then being subjected to the tasering and the beating? >> well you know, the first thing that comes up for everybody is rodney king. but this is a very different situation in that you -- it's not just some guy with a little shaky camera off to the side. you have a news helicopter above
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clearly recording the entire thing and that seems to be no deterrent for these officers. clearly the guy thought, if i just lay down here spread out 100% i'm not resisting maybe i will be in good shape. that didn't happen. this news is just being absorbed here in california but i think you're going to see a real demand that these kinds of things now, we live in a different world where you have, you know cell cameras, you have helicopters, you've got atms have little cameras on them a little more video evidence of both wrong doing whether it's civilians or whether it's law enforcement. i think you're going to have an expectation now from the public that when this sort of stuff happens there is a quick response from the authorities that people do get arrested or fired or disciplined and demoted quickly and that is a new development i think for law enforcement. not just here in california but across the country. >> and then to van's point, avery, we talk about quick response but the response only comes as a result of things like
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this being caught on camera. in this case news helicopter the south carolina case one week ago today, with walter scott who's being laid to rest. if not for the videotape of an innocent bystander and passerby we wouldn't be having this dialog. what does this tell you about either the state of relations between police and the communities in which they serve or the state of this nation being very watchful and catching things onvideotape revealing it tough things to watch? >> you know it really digs even deeper than that, fredricka. it goes to the police academies now training officers. you have to assume if you're in law enforcement that there's a video watching. if it's not one set up by the government it's one involving citizens. the whole approach essentially would be if you wouldn't do something like that in front of your mother, for example, don't do it in public because you're
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going to get caught. frankly the michael -- the scott/slager case is so important, i think it's a game changer on where law enforcement will be dealing with these kind of issues. >> in what way? in terms of training of police officers looking at the character of a potential, you know police officer recruit, or having a more watchful entity of officers once they are wearing the badge, what do you manyean in terms of game changers? >> it means there's been an assumption if you go into law enforcement basically you got a frees pass. if something is going to happen, no one is going to catch you. right now given citizen video, given the nature of scrutiny through video, police officers better play it straight or else we're going to see these kind of events replicated time and time again. >> has there been an erosion maybe even of the knowibility of
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a police officer, the feeling by many people in various communities, there is a lack of respect, there isn't a feeling of trust the police officers when you have videotaped imagery like this it doesn't help the cause? >> well i think that unfortunately that may be happening. i think we may be going through a cultural rehp-set which may wind up being healthy which says a police officer is not a saint or superhero. a police officer is a city employee doing a very tough job and you have a range, some are excellent, some are not, some are incredibly honest, some not. the incentives are for police officers to be less than honest on a police report if they did something wrong. they tonight want to get in trouble. they don't want to go to jail. start treating police officers as human beings who can make mistakes. the reason you're having such outrage right now is because this idea of a free passive you have on a blue uniform has i
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think been in the eyes of many people abuse. i want to point out some cultural shifts. you saw "time" magazine with the headline black lives matter. that was surprising to see a "time" magazine adopting the slogan of some of the protests. indigo go and go fund me refuse to put up a crowd sourcing for this officer even though the officer that killed mike brown got a million dollars on-line. you're starting to see real alignment on-line a re-set culturally not every police officer should be seen as a saint or superhero. >> avery you will be back with us because i want to ask from your perspective how does a defense attorney we know it to be andy savage a prominent south carolina attorney represent a michael slager in a case like this which a police officer three days after people are to learn of it is now facing murder charges and in jail. thanks so much. van appreciate you from los
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angeles as well. still ahead, a simple handshake between president obama and cuban president raul castro. but the symbolism continues to resonate worldwide. a live report from panama next. headache? motrin helps you be an unstoppable, let's-rock-this-concert- like-it's-1999 kind of mom. back pain? motrin helps you be the side-planking keeping-up-with- your-girlfriend- even-though-you'll-feel-it- later kind of woman you are. body pain?
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this just in to cnn. we are learning a second suspect has been arrested in connection with a kansas man's plot to bomb a u.s. army base. the justice department says alexander blair knew about john bookers plan to detonate a car bomb at ft. riley but didn't report it. booker who is 20 years old known as mohammad abdullah hassan is charged with attempting to use a
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weapon of mass destruction, attempting to damage property by means of an explosive and attempting to provide material support to isis. the fbi says it was bookers' facebook post that first got their attention last year. >> this particular defendant has been under investigation for some time by the fbi's joint terrorism task force. it's alleged that since march of this year he's been plotting to construct an explosive device for an attack on american soil. he repeatedly stated his desire to engage in violent jihad on behalf of the islamic state of iraq. other than known as isil. >> cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes is on the phone with us right now. all right. so tom, this case had a very detailed federal surveillance. the feds apparently have been watching booker since his comments on facebook last year when he called killing in jihad a, quote adrenaline rush and now the second arrest of a
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28-year-old who apparently knew of his alleged plan. what does this tell you about the detail of this alleged plot? >> well, it tells me how much the intent was there on this part to conduct this attack. actually it wasn't the fbi that monitored the facebook account. a private citizen called the fbi and said that they had seen these postings and were disturbed and notified the fbi to look into it and the investigation started a year ago in march 2014. so the fbi went and interviewed him and, you know, said are you serious? because these cases are nuisance nuisance. the fbi has hundreds of cases where people are putting out the postings and they don't know if they're just bragging or not. they actually go check them out. and so here he knew the fbi was looking at him and still decided he was going to go forward and telling people he was going to join the army so that he could do an attack and kill
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high-ranking officers once inside the army. >> so, you know apparently before the arrest he booker allegedly met with this federal agent, obviously he didn't know it was a federal agent, but if investigators have been looking at him for at least a year is it odd or is this fairly, you know normal in your view that an arrest would come one year later? why was there not enough perhaps is the question a year ago if they already -- if flags were already raised about his potential involvement? >> because they ended up getting two informants in to dealing with him in this case and they wanted to make sure that they wouldn't have a defense to say i was just kidding, i didn't mean it. they don't help the person do the plot. they afford him the opportunity to do what he's already said he wants to do which is conduct the attack. he was scheduled to enter the army this month in april, but
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when the army learned and the fbi notified the army of what this was about they terminated his entry a month ago. so once that happened he decided that's it i'm going to assemble a bomb and put it in the trunk of my car and be a suicide bomber and crash the gate and blow it up. the other subject arrested in connection with it knew that's what he wanted to do helped him rent a garage space where he could store the explosive that he was going to acquire and provided significant help to him. it was more than just he knew about it and didn't inform the authorities. he knew about it and was helping him go forward with this even though he wasn't going to be a bomber himself. >> this 20-year-old john booker arrested second arrest of 28-year-old alexander blair, in your view might there be others? >> not that i know of. i think this had gone and i'm not aware or they would have probably already been arrested.
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we move to a historic turn ins u.s./cuba relations. president obama and cuban president raul castro shaking hands several times at a summit in panama. today the two leaders may sit down face to face and that would mark the first high-level talks between these two countries since 1959 when vice president richard nixon met with then prime minister fidel castro. peter is in panama city author of "back channel to cuba." on the phone with me now, what is the impact if these two leaders, indeed, meet face to face break bread so to speak and talk? >> right. i have an image of them strolling in the gardens and smoking a cigar together that raul castro has brought as a peace offering to the united states. as i understand it they may be meeting as we're speaking.
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this would be the first actual substantive meeting between these two presidents. they've made history by being in a conference room together and, of course, there was a meeting between foreign minister bruno rodriguez and secretary of state john kerry on thursday night. you have a succession of events here in panama of changing the course of u.s./cuban relations, putting the perpetual hostility of the past in the past and opening the door to as obama himself has said a new era, a new beginning in u.s./cuban relations. >> what would they be talking about? this isn't the first time we've seen them in each other's company. recall during the nelson mandela funeral, they actually shook hands then and that was quite seismic. give us an idea if you could, what would their dialog be? how much would they be talking about the future or the plans, the vision that the two of them see for a better u.s./cuba
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working relationship? >> i can tell you they are talking about the specifics of actually normalizing first diplomatic relations and then normalizing kind of overall relations and this is the first actual opportunity for the two of them to talk to each other about this momentous day on december 17th 2014 when they went on their respective television stations and addressed their nations and said we are changing our relationship and moving forward towards normal relations. putting the difficulties that have kind of, you know consolidated over more than 55 years of ac cri mow nous hostility in u.s. policy towards cuba kind of in the past is not an easy thing. it's not something as obama has said is going to happen overnight, but the fact that obama himself is willing to discuss these things face to face with raul castro is a
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completely different kind of mode of coexistence. it's a sign of a respectful approach a civil approach to cuba that i think will go a long way towards advancing the interests the united states has in opening up cuba's economy, more market orientation to addressing the issue of human rights in cuba and eventually having an impact on the political system there down the line as well. >> and peter, those are grand ideas but even as you look at the images there that are being played back over and over again, if we can look at them one more time i don't know if you're getting the chance to see the return but looking at the body language and looking at the eye contact between president obama and rauls castro and they appear to hold on to this eye contact as the hands continue to be clutched. we're looking at a still image but it really does speak volumes, does it not, of just
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how amicable it looks between these two men? >> you have to give credit to the president of the united states. he really has gone out of his way, both privately and publicly to make it clear that the united states wants a new beginning with cuba. in his first public remarks here in panama yesterday, made at the hotel where i'm staying, he said i am glad to have cuba at this summit and, of course it's been the united states for over 20 years sinces the summit process began in the early 1990s that has excluded cuba from the summit. so this summit marks a historical turning point, a point where cuba is formally reincorporated into the interamerican system and when the united states drops its opposition to try to isolate cuba because in the end we've only ended up isolating ourselves in the region i think the body language is important. >> significant. >> obama is a head taller than
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raul castro he's always looking down on him as you see in the pictures but when there's -- >> there's a little smile from raul castro a couple times there too. >> absolutely. when they met last night at this kind of reception function at the summit they were kind of spep parded together there with the u.n. council and lots of presidents from the countries around and, you know, it's clearly a turning point for the region for the united states and for cuba here in panama. >> wow. incredible. i love your perspective. thank you so much. you put us in the room there. appreciate it. we'll have much more right after this. [ female announcer ] take skincare to the next level with roc® multi correxion® 5 in 1. proven to hydrate dryness illuminate dullness lift sagging diminish the look of dark spots and smooth the appearance of wrinkles. high performance skincare™ only from roc®. ♪ ♪ the pursuit of healthier.
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tornadoes in illinois. >> we're just thankful to be here to help pick up. >> and attacked on a plane? >> actually tried to spank you? >> yeah. >> with what? >> with -- i don't know a rope something he has. >> a soccer player taking a nap on a pregame flight to atlanta says he waking up to a complete stranger trying to strangle him. the newsroom continues right now. >> all right. good morning again, everyone. thanks for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. video of officer slager's actions moments after the shooting in south carolina raises even more troubling questions. slager is seen apparently dropping something near walter scott's body.
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this is charleston. was officer slager trying to plant evidence to justify the shooting? our report. >> reporter: officer michael slager shooting walter scott is shocking enough but it is this moment says los angeles defense attorney darren that is something he's never seen. >> it looks like the officer is dropping an object. we see him drop the taser there or what appears to be a taser. i never had the kind of corroborating evidence that this particular piece of tape represents. but i've heard the complaints over and over and over again. it's a common experience. >> reporter: frequent claims by suspects alleging police planting evidence have been difficult to prove and in the late 1990s more than 70 officers in the lapd division were implicated in plants evidence in thousands of cases. officers fired or prosecuted but the public never saw the lapd planting evidence. with more smartphones, more
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cameras and policing there's more video capturing how police engage with the public. earlier this year dash cam video captures a police stop in suburban detroit. police officers mel len dez approaches gun drawn. 57-year-old floyd dent opens his door and is dragged out. the police officer punches dent in the head. in the police report mel len dez says he was only protecting himself after seeing the video, the judge dismissed resisting arrest and assault charges against dent. the video captured officer mel len dez handling what appears to be a plastic bag hp he says he retrieved from underneath the passenger seat but dent's lawyer alleges the police planted drugs and charged dent with possession of crack cocaine. the officer is on paid administrative duties while the city and state investigate. >> does it happen? yes, it happens. does it happen often? no. it's very, very rare like something like that does occur.
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harry is a retired nypd detective. when an officer he worked for the department's internal affairs and says like there are bad people there are bad cops. what haunts him now, the fired officer's video appearance in court. >> what caught my eye was the stoic look on his face. i saw no emotion. here was a man standing there, who had just murdered a man as a police officer, standing there with no emotion at all. i thought that was very, very telling to me. >> reporter: as far as whether or not there's been any effort to track this nationally we couldn't find anything comprehensive done not by any governmental agency or outside agency. defense attorneys and activists have long held the belief this may be predominantly affecting poor minority communities but there's no data to support that. kyung lah, cnn, los angeles. >> the road to 2016 the reintroduction of hillary clinton, why we could see a different side of the candidate expected to announce her bid for the white house tomorrow.
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robust would be one way to describe dr. elseworth. the 100-year-old retired heart surgeon occasionally does his own yard work walks regularly, still drives. >> you drove here today? >> driving is nothing. i worked until i'm 95 assists, mind you. i could have done heart surgery but it wouldn't be fair to the patient because you need reserve strength. if you gave me something to memorize i would memorize it quickly now as i would when i was 20. >> how is your health? >> it's superb. i haven't got an acre of pain. >> the great grandfather believes his diet plays a part in all of this. >> if your blood cholesterol is under 150 your chances of having a heart attack is small.
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mine is 117. no chance of me having a heart attack. >> you're heart attack proof. >> i'm dealing in an area i understand. >> perhaps another key to his longevity, not letting problems weigh him down. >> how big a role does stress play in your life? >> you asked the wrong person. i have a philosophy you do the best you can and the things you can't do anything about don't give any thought to them. >> what motivates you nowadays? >> i feel i have to make a contribution. when i was doing surgery i made it by operating. now i do it by speaking about preventative medicine. >> showing people what 100 years old can look like. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. >> all right. that's incredible inspiration. all right. tomorrow politics takes a new turn. hillary clinton expected to make the huge announcement that she is going to be doing via social media. sources say the former secretary of state, senator and first lady will be launching her bid
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for the white house via on-line video. cnn's sunlen is live in washington. what's first on the agenda for the candidate as she makes this rollout. >> first up this video announcement which will be released at some point tomorrow and then expected to get out on the campaign trail, hitting the early states making her first stop in iowa. look out for at the start of the rollout for clinton to be placed in smaller, more intimate settings. this will be an attempt by the campaign to try to highlight her softer side to reintroduce her to the american voters. but she is no doubt coming into this campaign fred bruised. there has been all this controversy over her private e-mail server why she was secretary of state and her issue of trust worthiness has taken a big hit in the polls. republicans have already been pouncing. today republicans pushing jeb bush and senator ted cruz. they've sent fund-raising e-mails to supporters trying to raise money off of her rollout and yesterday as nra convention was brought out nearly every
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potential republican contender we saw a preview of the kinds of arguments they'll make. >> is this the ready for hillary gathering? you know we had good news ready for hillary. had her first hire. the head of e-mail security. >> you know i understand hillary is about to announce her candidacy this weekend. i wonder what her slogan is going to be? i suspect it won't be four more years. >> and polls show that clinton enters this race with a big lead over possible democratic challengers. one of those being potentially former democratic governor of maryland martin o'malley. in iowa he told reporters he believes clinton is not unbreakable. >> i've seen that happen before in this state. history is full of examples where the inevitable frontrunner was inevitable until she or he
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was no longer inevitable. the challenger emerges very often times here in iowa and so that's why iowa is such an important state. >> and it's this issue of inevitability that is one of the big reasons we're seeing clinton come out and make this tailored low-key announcement tomorrow. >> it's going to be something to watch. hillary clinton's campaign announcement thanks so much sunlen will be the focus of a special two-hour edition of "state of the union" that all starts sunday, noon eastern time. also still ahead, we're getting a first take first look rather at a violent brawl outside a walmart in arizona. a fight breaking out between police and eight members of the same family. then shots are fired. details next. if your purse is starting to look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ .
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. now for a look at some other top stories making news. families are beginning to return home after a train derails in south carolina. it happened friday night near trenton. according to reports 39 cars derailed one of them spilling ammonia nitrate. thankfully no injuries reported. the cause of the derailment is still under investigation. and the u.s. is lending its voice to an outcry for china to release five women rights activists. in a statement friday secretary of state john kerry told china
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to, quote, support them not silence them end quote. the women have been held for a month on suspicion of picking quarrels and provoking trouble. those are the charges. prosecutors must decide by monday if they will be formally arrested. and take me out to the ball game but wake me up when it's over. last night or should i say this morning's yankees/red sox game lasted 19 innings taking the game well into 2:00 a.m. a partial power outage in extra innings didn't help matters. in the end, sleepy sox fans were happy that they did stay up for it. boston outlasted new york 6-5. the teams face off again this afternoon. if they can keep their eyes open. all right. a napping passenger on an atlanta-bound plane says he was jolted awake by a man trying to strangle him. the victim is a professional
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soccer player from brazil who was traveling with his teammates and witnesses, including a cnn reporter who was on that plane, say the suspect was sitting behind the victim when suddenly he wrapped the cord of his ear phones around the man's neck. >> we're going from toronto to atlanta to play a game in atlanta and we were on the plane very quiet. everything seemed okay you know. guys were watching some videos. others were playing cards together and suddenly everybody gets up a little bit screaming, you know. >> he actually tried to strangle you? >> yeah. >> with what? >> with -- i don't know a rope something he has. >> he was sitting behind him and he just went after him and tried to and tried to choke him. >> i came to help and then i went out, and then he started saying we were here to kill him
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and stuff. >> and you had no indication there was a problem. >> no no i was sleeping. >> it's not what you really expect when you're on a business trip like this. >> it was like a movie, you know. we don't expect that when we just come to train and play and play a soccer game. >> unbelievable! the fbi says the man was escorted off the plane when it landed and was taken for medical and mental evaluation. all right. arizona police have just released dash cam video that shows a brawl between police and a family. some of whom are members in a christian music band. it happened in a walmart parking lot, late last month, and now one man is dead. seven others are injured. and a police officer was also shot. reporter pete seratos of affiliate knxv has more. >> reporter: it's our first look
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at the intense brawl between cottonwood police and the family attacking officers in this walmart parking lot in march. after they were accused of assaulting a walmart employee just moments before. >> you're going to kill him! >> reporter: officers tried to subdue the family repeatedly tasing them spraying pepper spray and even tackling them. they had help from a walmart worker and two others but they had little luck. the family finding different ways to continually attack these officers. rolling on the ground when tased and wiping away that pepper spray. >> personally i've never seen that tactic applied. so i am not certain where they learned it. obviously, somebody has taught them that. >> reporter: time and time again, the family put their hands up pretending to surrender, but they never do. >> get down! >> reporter: and during the fight, shots are fired. the first shot according to police is one of the suspects
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shooting the officer in the leg. another shot is an officer shooting the suspect, who is now deceased. and on the topic of civilians, how close is too close? this is a walmart employee eric fields, helping police fighting off the family. i asked if this is something regular folks should steer clear from instead of jumping in. >> >> we are very familiar with mr. fields from walmart, because of our interactions with him at loss prevention at walmart. so the officers are very familiar with him. the other two gentlemen that approached they were very nonthreatening. >> reporter: six of the family members were arrested two of them juveniles. facing a variety of charges, including assault of an officer and resisting arrest. that injured officer has been released from the hospital and is recovering from his injuries. this case is still under investigation with dps. in cottonwood pete seratos, abc 15 news. >> we'll talk more about that next hour. also still ahis parts of northern illinois are cleaning up from the destruction caused by deadly tornadoes. cnn's nick valencia is live in
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fairdale which is one of the hard-hit areas. nick. >> reporter: hey, fred. we're hearing incredible stories of survival and people helping during tragedy. i'm nick valencia in fairdale illinois. we'll share one of those silver lining stories right after the break. you're watching the cnn "newsroom." s whitening will damage your teeth? introducing listerine® healthy white™. it not only safely whitens teeth... ...but also restores enamel. lose the nerves and get a healthier whiter smile that you'll love. listerine® healthy white™. power to your mouth™! big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern.
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residents in northern illinois have a huge face masktask
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as they clean up from several tornadoes thursday night. the twister that devastated the small town of fairdale has been initially rated now an ef-4 by the national weather service. that's the second-most powerful rating with winds up to 200 miles per hour. two women who were neighbors died in their homes and dozens of other homes were destroyed or severely damaged. nick valencia is in fairdale. nick you actually met a woman who lost her home, and facebook ended up really being her salvation. in what way? >> reporter: yeah the salvation of social media. lauren hinchey thought she lost everything so the next morning on friday after the tornado hit, she took to social media, not only to vet her federations frustrations but also to ask for help. even in tragedy, there is always someone willing to lend a helping hand. >> we have a friends camper coming in. >> reporter: a day after her home was destroyed, lauren
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hinchey found help. >> family friends. i'm a school teacher, so a lot of school teachers came out for us today. >> reporter: on friday morning, word quickly spread on social media that her home in lindenwood illinois was one of dozens leveled by an ef-4 tornado. >> i just put it out on facebook and just said hey, we're fine but this is what we need and, you know people just came out this morning. >> reporter: one by one, neighbors, family and friends all showed up. >> we're here to help pick up. it's a wonderful thing, all these people are here to help. >> reporter: some with gifts. >> i had a port-a-potty here before i knew it. i had containers and trailers. >> reporter: others to help her pick up priceless possessions. >> oh i know. my heart breaks. i saw it down in the garage. i'm like oh please be okay. please be okay. between that and my running shoes. that's what i was worried about. >> reporter: everyone seemed to show up with something.
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>> tons of foods donated. so if you're hungry please stop and get something. >> reporter: her small farmhouse may be uninhabitable for now, but she has plans to rebuild. >> it's kind of okay for now because the roof is still -- there is something over the top. >> reporter: hinchey wasn't home at the time of the tornado. but her husband was. >> how long have you guys been here? >> about 17 years. 18 years, i guess. >> reporter: long enough to form some pretty strong bonds with people who want to help. >> pretty neat, really. >> reporter: back here on this block in fairdale residents are slowly showing up. you see the gentlemen here. this is probably one of the worst structures damaged, fredricka. this is a welding shop also an apartment. you see that gentleman in the green sweater that lifted up that piece of debris? he was in that white truck when the ef-4 tornado hit. he took refuge in his -- with his family in that car. we're going to try to get him on
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at 1:00 p.m. eastern hour of the cnn "newsroom" to hear his incredible story of surviving. fred? >> incredible indeed. look forward to that. thanks so much nick valencia in fairdale. so much more straight ahead in the "newsroom" and it all starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening right now in the "newsroom," walter scott is laid to rest in south carolina as new details emerge about what happened in the moments before his shooting death. and we're getting a look at new dash cam video, which shows critical angles of the scene and new information about the man who was in the car with the victim before walter scott died. plus a second arrest in a plot to bomb a kansas militant base. how authorities stopped a recruit from carrying out an attack in the name of isis. and a historic hand shake,
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setting the stage today. what they hope to accomplish the presidents of cuba and the u.s. and what this means here at home. you're live in the cnn "newsroom." hello again, everyone. and thanks so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. new video of a police beating and it involves as many as ten officers. it's part of an incident where police chased a man on horseback. stephanie elam has more. >> reporter: here's your pursuit. >> reporter: it's a police chase that looks like something out of the wild west. >> i've got this guy on a stolen horse. >> reporter: 30-year-old francis pusok attempting to outrun law enforcement on the back of a stolen hurricane sandy in a rural part of san bernardino county. a helicopter was recording as the bizarre chase ends when the horse bucks the suspect. >> the suspect being tased. >> reporter: and sheriffs deputies attempt to tase him.
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then as deputies get closer pusok appears to surrender, lying face-down on the ground before putting his hands behind his back. that doesn't stop the officers from mobbing around pusok, kicking him in the groin and head before kneeing him and landing punch after punch on his body. it's a beating that lasts about two minutes, with ten officers involved. all of whom are now on paid administrative leave. >> somebody should go to prison over this. what i saw on the television was thugs beating up my client. that's what i saw. and these questions about what was he doing? what did they do? this is far worse than rodney king. >> reporter: san bernardino sheriff john mcmann has ordered an immediate internal investigation. the specialized investigation detail is also conducting a criminal investigation, as well. >> i am disturbed and troubled by what i see in the video. it does not appear to be in line with our policies and procedures, at least a portion of it. i ask that you allow us to
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conduct that investigation, and i assure you, if there is criminal wrongdoing on the part of any of our deputy sheriffs or any policy violations we will take action. >> reporter: the sheriff's department says deputies were attempting to serve pusok with a search warrant related to an identity theft investigation. when he first fled in a car, then abandoned it and ran into the desert where he stole a horse and took off. in total, a chase that went on for some three hours. >> i'm not going to stand here and say that he's perfect, because who is? >> reporter: pusok's girlfriend of 13 years believes the officers went too far. >> they beat the crap out of him. and now they're trying to do everything they can to avoid being in any trouble. >> reporter: in trouble in an era where police tactics are under intense public scrutiny. >> and the fbi has now launched an investigation to determine whether or not pusok's civil rights were violated. stephanie elam cnn, los angeles. >> all right. let's talk more about this and talk about the case in south
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carolina that's now become a high-profile case. cheryl dorsey is a retired lapd sergeant she served on the force for 20 years. good to see you. and hln legal analyst, joey jackson joining us from new york city. plus criminal profiler pat brown, joining me from washington, d.c. good to see you all, as well. all right. cheryl you first. let's talk about this out of san bernardino. involving san bernardino police. you were a police officer in los angeles for 20 years. and when you look at this video of how this suspect was apprehended and how he was treated, what goes through your mind in terms of whether there is a systemic problem as we now look at video of not just officers in san bernardino but now we're also talking about the police officer out of north charleston and many people are aghast at how they see officers treating suspects. >> clearly, it's systemic. it's cultural. and it's the way police officers, some police officers have been conducting themselves
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all along. we're just starting to see it more and more. and so i like to refer to this as a pack mentality. when you have a group of officers at the end of a foot pursuit, a vehicle pursuit, they become involved in tunnel vision. and a beating is generally what happens. and we understand that officers do this routinely. >> routinely. so joey we've got cheryl saying as a former lapd officer, this happens all of the time. it's a systemic problem. that people are seeing it with new eyes by way of videotape. in this case a news helicopter in the case of south carolina a bystander's cell phone. what does this say to you about how you get at the problem. how do you end something that is systemic and does this mean that it means the active participation of civilians, people to use their cameras and cell phones in which to capture
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these images. >> fredricka, there certainly is a problem. i don't want to paint police officers with too broad a brush. we know that police officers are there to serve and protect. my dad was one. may rerest in peace. as a former prosecutor i certainly work with a lot of honorable officers who are about fighting crime and doing it decently forthrightly and as a public service. however, that being said clearly there is another problem that we need to deal with. when you see videos like we see here it's troubling. when you see, and i get and understand you're in pursuit of someone, the adrenaline is flowing, you have to catch him. but unless i'm seeing a different video than the rest of us are, he's certainly -- the suspect, who is white, by the way, is clearly surrendered. he's on the ground. he's -- he does not look like he's posing a threat at all. and here you're showing the other video, we can certainly speak about that one, the officer acted in a completely criminal fashion. i mean i don't know how you justify that. we could talk about that later but the bottom line fredricka,
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you need to bridge the gap. and in order to bridge the gap, there has to be trust and there needs to be mutual respect. and when you see instances like this when officers are acting out, it goes against that trust. against that mutual respect. so the best we can hope for in this situation it needs to be an administrative review where officers need to be discharged fired, suspended, disciplined, depending upon the conduct they engaged in. and certainly on the other track, a criminal investigation so they can be held criminally accountable, both in terms of the state law and in terms of the federal civil rights law for acting in a way that is intentional and a way that deprives this person of their civil rights. >> okay. and so pat, i want to show that video of north charleston or former north charleston police officer after the shooting of walter scott one more time as we watch it in slo-mo. and when you hear joey use the word troubling. you hear cheryl say it's a systemic problem. and now you look at this incident which really helped bring about the charge of now murder to this officer just days
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after the killing of walter scott. and you look at his demeanor. as a profiler what do you see? do you see that the word systemic and troubling are in concert with this kind of behavior how cavalier it seems as he handcuffs the man who has been shot five times and how he now drops what appears to be something that helps plant evidence. we still are unclear what that is exactly. but how do you look at this behavior? how do you explain it? >> okay. i think, first of all, i want to go back and look at the situation from the beginning. we're talking about -- it isn't routine. there may be a problem within the system but it's not routine. if you go out with a cop, do any ride-alongs, you'll note all day long their routine is generally to be polite and respectful and they use a lot of restraint with a lot of bad acting people. now what sometimes happens when you have a pursuit is that that -- immediately when that
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pursuit begins the life of an officer or officers and the citizens are being put at danger from the beginning. so there's already that adrenaline rush what the heck are you doing, i'm now at risk. now i'm afraid because i don't know what's going on here. so when we have a look at slager -- officer slager when he stopped the vehicle, start at the beginning there, we saw him acting in a very appropriate manner. very respectful not condescending, and you know he was getting a story and probably questioning. yeah you don't have any paperwork, okay wait a minute. but he's being polite. went back to his car, doing his routine. we have someone who then fleas the scene. there is something -- he has to pursue him, because that's his job. he does so and at the time he then gets contact with him, there is some kind of struggle. so again, we have some kind of possible resisting arrest. >> that's a problem. we don't really know that part. >> no we don't. >> we know one witness who said there was a tussle. but what we're trying to evaluate is what you can see. >> okay. wait a minute wait a minute. >> so let me say what we have
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and then you can assess. >> hold on. we had something happen there. and then we have scott running again from the police officer. all right. at this point, is where the issue comes in. up until that point, i don't see that slager is has acted in an inappropriate manner. i do see that scott has acted in an inappropriate manner. but here's the big issue. when you pull the trigger on a gun, there is one and only one reason you do that. that is because you believe you're in imminent danger of being killed. in other words, you would rather go into a courtroom than into a box. and take -- that's the chance you'll take. because you believe you don't pull the trigger, you will die. >> okay. we're not really addressing what everyone is looking at here, which is help us understand the natural reaction that now an officer might have or this officer might have. your suspect is on the ground. has five bullets. in the back. and now you are -- your natural
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inclination -- most people might think your naturalin country medication anybody oh my gosh i just shot somebody i hurt somebody i'm going to administer some kind of aid. you don't see that. instead what you see is this rather cavalier approach and so i'm asking if you -- >> i think we're putting cavalier into the heads. this is a guy who has worked many situations. this is the routine you do regardless of what has sort of happened. my point is -- >> you handcuff someone who has been shot in the back? >> he doesn't know -- we don't know what he dropped. >> okay. >> let me finish it. i want to finish my statement. the whole point comes down to in the court of law, which is what slager has to prove, is did he have the right to pull the trigger. was he at that moment absolutely positive and would every police officer agree and regular citizens that he had to pull the trigger in order to save his own life. the answer is no. >> stop right there for a moment. joey if you could respond and then cheryl i would like to hear your take. >> yes, i will. the fact is, i don't have any issue with putting the word
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cavalier there, because that's exactly what i see. it appeared to me that officer slager was much more concerned with his well-being in going and getting whatever it was that he dropped by the body that was there of walter scott that he wasn't administering aid or assisting in any way. that's a travesty. the reality is that yes, protocol may call for cuffing a person who we don't know is injured or dead. you want to make sure you're okay. but thereafter certainly you could assist in some way. and not to assist at all, but to engage in the act of planting evidence is very troubling. >> we don't know that that was what happened. >> furthermore -- >> wait until there is -- we do not know that yet. and that's for the court to decide. >> pat, if you would allow me as i allowed you to further make my point. that's an issue. that's a very big issue. but backing up before that i'm troubled because legally, this is very problematic. here's why fredricka. number one, when you shoot and kill someone, are you in imminent danger of being dead
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yourself. when the threat is running away from you, it certainly doesn't appear that you're in danger. number two, when you use force, the force must be in proportion to the threat posed against you. if someone is 5, 10 15, 20 feet away what danger are they posing. step three do they have a weapon. if you look at all in total the reasonableness of this conduct, i don't think by any measure when someone is running away from you it's reasonable. last point here and again it involves the law. tennessee versus garner 30 years ago, the supreme court said even if a suspect is fleeing, even if they're a felon, the only time you're justified in using deadly force is if you yourself or someone else as a police officer either is in danger of serious bodily injury or danger of death. >> that's what i said. >> a profiler or any other -- >> i just said that exact words. but you just repeated me. what i said was, that is the whole issue of the whole case here. and that goes to court, and
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slager has to prove that there was some reason. he thought the guy was going to turn thought he had another weapon on him. he has to prove that. if he can't brof that he goes down. that's my point. let's focus on what the actual issue is. did he have the right to pull the trigger. >> fredricka, may i say something? >> yes, please. >> so listen officers receive an inordinate amount of training and the tactics that led up to this shooting were outrageous. had he not pursued a suspect without adequate backup we would not be in this situation. and he understood -- officer slager when he fired that trigger, he knew absolutely there was no probable cause, there was no immediate defense of life and that is why he created a audio record of he took my taser to try to justify a shooting that was unjustifiable. and he exacerbated that by now going and placing the taser within close proximity to the body to further corroborate this lie that he is formulating and integrity. and telling. >> that sounds pretty simple.
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>> take that to court and let that be proven in court. that's all i'm saying. did he have the right to pull the trigger. it's very is simple. >> i think the prosecution certainly will have a very good basis of proving what we see, unless we don't believe our lying eyes. >> all right. >> and, of course, he didn't have the right to pull the trigger. officers are taught to escalate and deescalate force. and you can only use that force that's reasonable to overcome the resistance. there was no resistance. mr. scott was running. the officer was incapable of catching him and shot him, because he could not stop him. >> and i wonder as an officer, cheryl if you were in a situation like that and you see there is another passenger in the car, if your instinct would be to run after the person who just ran away or would you call for backup or would you want to investigate who is the other person in the car to find out if you are in any sort of danger or if you need in any way to further investigate before you were to run after someone.
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would that be your instinct as an officer? or would you leave your car -- and that other vehicle and that other passenger there? to pursue the other suspect. >> the tactics that the officer used were awful. you never run after a suspect, because it could have been a setup. he doesn't know if that suspect took off running because the passenger was now going to shoot him in the back. what he should have done was he should have radioed to responding units, backup that the suspect was running and give a direction and allow his responding units to try to further detain him and then his focus should have been on that person in the vehicle and not leave his police car open with weapons and other things that possibly could have been driven away with by this other person. and so the tactics were terrible. and he's going to have to speak to that use of force. he's going to have to articulate why he tasered mr. scott, why he fired each and every round that was fired. i don't see any justification for any of that. >> fredricka, i'm also wondering
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if cheryl dorsey could address the issue of verbal commands. what about as he's running away stop halt don't move freeze don't go any further. is it troubling to you as a person of long standing lauchlt no verbal commands were used. >> we heard taser, taser, taser. >> taser, taser, taser. i'm speaking about giving an indication as he's running away to tell him to stop. is that something you might have done if you're in a police force in a situation like this? >> cheryl? >> he's not really required to say stop. mr. scott understands who he is. he's a police officer, he's in uniform. and they had just had an encounter. but again, when you look at the tactics, and we understand this is not the first time that officer slager used excessive force. that's what he does. you don't escalate to a deadly force incident unless you've been abusive and overzealous previously. >> that's what he does. >> in 2013 he pulled a man out
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of his home at a 459 investigation, beat him, tasered him and took him to the police station because he wasn't convinced when the man came to the door in his underwear and t-shirt he was a resident. and when his mother said my son lives here -- took him to the police station, to do what i don't know. but this was not the first time he used excessive force. >> we're talking six years on the force, you have a complaint. and what you're doing is convicting this guy everything andment i'm not saying he shouldn't be convicted. i'm saying stick to the facts of what we do know. >> history will be something folded into. >> hopefully in the courtroom. >> hopefully in the courtroom. he's already been arrested. he's been charged. he's going to a courtroom. let it happen out there instead of taking little teeny pieces of the puzzle and making assertions we don't know are true. >> i think based on my 20 years of experience on the los angeles police department as a supervisor -- >> you just told me it was routine. >> excessive force -- >> you told me it was all routine.
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>> all right. >> it's absolutely routine for officers to become aggressive at the end of a foot pursuit. it happens all of the time. >> not routine. it happens. it's not routine. >> and we will leave it there. we know this conversation is going to continue. it certainly is one that's gotten under the skin of so many. all right. pat brown, cheryl dorsey joey jackson, thanks to all of you. appreciate it. >> thank you, fredricka, have a great day. still ahead, a home-grown terror. a former u.s. army recruit charged with plotting to bomb a u.s. military base. and now his friend has been charged as well. how facebook posts and vigilant readers tipped off the fbi. it's happening. today, more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir® an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® comes in flextouch® the only prefilled insulin pen with no push-button extension.
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all right. new in the last hour cnn learned a second suspect has been arrested in connection with a kansas man's plot to bomb a u.s. army base. the justice department says alexander blair, 28 knew about 20-year-old john booker's plan to detonate a car bomb at ft. riley, but didn't report it. meanwhile, booker also known as muhammad abdela hasan is charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction, attempting to damage property by means of an explosive, and attempting to provide material support to isis. the fbi says it was booker's facebook posts that first got their attention last year. cnn's evan perez has more. >> reporter: a 20-year-old american man was arrested as he prepared to carry out what he thought was a suicide bombing at ft. riley army base in kansas. john t. booker enlisted last year in the army. but the army cancelled his enlistment before he showed up for basic training. that's after the fbi says it found facebook postings claiming he wanted to carry out jihad
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attacks. booker also goes by the name muhammad abdallah hasan. the fbi says he wanted to carry out friday's attack for isis. two undercover fbi informants helped orchestrate a sting operation, helping him buy components what he thought were explosives. booker was interviewed last year by the fbi about the facebook posts. one read "i will soon be leaving you forever. so goodbye. i'm going to wage jihad in hopes i die." the fbi says he told agents he wanted to carry out an inside terrorist attack like the one on ft. hood in 2009 that killed 13 people. >> thanks so much evan perez. and according to reports, a muslim muslim cleric says john booker was mentally ill and was acting strangely days before his arrest. this is the 21st terror related arrest on u.s. soil this year. joining me now, lieutenant general mark hurling, cnn military analyst. okay 21 arrests. that's pretty significant. that's up to john booker. now i wonder whether this
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alexander blair will be the 22nd considered american arrested for any potential isis activity. is that a big number to you? >> i don't think it is fredricka. you know when you're talking about 20 people in a population of 300 million in the united states there are going to be strange actors out there. and this individual seemed to fit in that category. what concerns me more about him is his background and some of the things he participated in before he actually thought of this plot. >> so this alexander blair, the second person arrested you know charged with failing to report booker's plans to authorities. so the complaint alleges that blair and booker shared extremist views and that blair loaned booker money to rent space to build and store a bomb. so what kind of message in your view might these charges be sending? the message being that you may be you know allegedly
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complicit and anyone aware of your plan may be facing charges as well. >> well yeah. mr. -- i would suggest though fred mr. blair was a lot more than just being complicit. early indicators in this case and when they were booked suggest that mr. blair was actually providing money, helping with the plan. so he's an accomplice. and even though booker was the guy that was going to do these things blair was certainly supporting his activity. the third person involved was mr. booker's imam in the local topeka area who attempted to talk him down. he saw him as a troubled and disturbed young man and trying to lead him toward the right path to islam, and he just said he got in contact with mr. booker a little bit too late to help him out. >> and then after his comments about jihad and facebook the fbi questioned booker and he was apparently pretty candid about his desire to kill american
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soldiers telling investigators he enlisted in the army with the intent to commit an insider attack like major nidal hasan had done at ft. hood. why, in your view would that not be enough to be arrested sooner? >> well it's -- the intent or mental state is not something that's going to cause an arrest. he actually has to take action. but it certainly took -- it was a great piece of information to feed to the army. you know fred we recruit in the military in the army about 130,000 soldiers per year. he was a recruit. he was on a delayed entry program. he actually signed the papers earlier -- or late last year and was scheduled to report sometime in april. when the fbi found this out, there was great cooperation, not only with the fbi and the kansas bureau of investigation and the kansas state troopers and government officials there, but they initially notified the military too. the military initially knew nothing about this. so they cancelled, obviously,
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the enlistment contract and it was a good thing. but then they continued to watch him to see what kind of effort he would place on to this plan that he had talked about. you can't arrest people for just saying something like this unless they establish some kind of intent to actually do it. >> all right. lieutenant general mark hertling good to see you. thank you so much. >> good to see you, too, fredricka. still ahead, historic times between the united states and cuba. both countries' leaders are meeting. jim acosta is there, as well. jim. >> reporter: fredricka, president obama shakes hands with raoul castro and talks about a new relationship with the people of cuba. we'll break down this history-making moment in just a few moments.
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continue to thaw. president obama and cuban president raul castro shook hands in panama city last night. you see right there. and today the leaders are meeting face-to-face at the summit. and that would be the first meeting of its kind between the two countries since 1959 when vice president richard nixon met with then prime minister fidel castro. jim acosta is in panama city. what more can you tell us about this meeting? is it happening now, has it happened what have they been talking about? what's the tone? all of that good stuff. >> reporter: yeah. a lot of good stuff to talk about. it's interesting to watch this. this is really history in the making fredricka. these countries have been cold war adversaries for more than half a century and you see ice being chipped away. the president just wrapped up some remarks a few moments ago here at the summit of the americans. he talked about how he's trying to usher in a new relationship with the people of cuba talking about really ending a practice of what he described as u.s.
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meddling in latin america. and this was as raul castro was in the room sitting just a few feet away from him. and so you know we should point out that raul castro the cuban leader is speaking now. and before the president gave a fairly lengthy address to these fellow latin american and western hemisphereic leaders and said what he wants to see is a new era in relations between the u.s. and cuba. here's what he had to say. >> the united states will not be imprisoned by the past. we're looking to the future. and the policies that improve the lives of the cuban people and advance the interests of cooperation in the hemisphere. now, this shift in u.s. policy represents a turning point for our entire region.
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. >> reporter: and the president went on to say it was sort of a moment when he was lecturing some of these more leftist latin american leaders where he said you know, what you can't blame the united states for all of your problems and that he as president of the united states is going to continue to speak out on human rights on issues involving political prisoners. that that is not going to change despite this -- these new overtures and this normalizing or relations with cuba. and then fredricka, very interestingly, after that -- after the president of the united states spoke, raul castro took the microphone and he started speaking for several minutes. as a matter of fact he's still speaking now. he has been going on for about 30 minutes, trying to make up for lost time given the fact this is the first summit he has been invited to. and he ran through the litany of grievances that the cuban people and cuban government has against the united states. support for past dictators. the fact the u.s. still controls the naval base at guantanamo. this was sort of a cold war or post cold war moment that we are seeing taking place here this afternoon. now, as for that meeting that's
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all right. we're going to take you right now to somerville south carolina where inside this building the word ministry christian center is. the funeral that is wrapping up for 50-year-old walter scott, who was gunned down by police officer in north charleston. one week ago today. and we understand the representatives of the walter scott family will soon be taken to the microphones that you can see there in the foreground right in front of those vehicles right there. and, of course we'll take those comments live coming from at least one of the family attorneys. we understand will be taking to the microphone. chris stewart and justin banberg. when this happens, we'll go there live. meantime our polo sandoval is outside that building all morning long. services got under way an hour
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and a half ago. polo what more can you tell us about the services open to the public in a very private setting? >> reporter: that's right, fred. we can go to the comments themselves. in the meantime let me set the stage. we are told a memorial service is about to wrap-up. closest we can take you, respecting the family's wishes to really keep our distance. but reports from inside now seem to indicate it was really a very emotional, very powerful moment. there were people actually willing to wait outside in the rain for a moment to share in some of those -- or at least for a chance to share in those emotional moments. and from what we're told it was obviously scott's daughter sharing a very powerful poem that she dedicated for her father. and then we're told perhaps one of the most emotional moments came with scott's brother, took the podium and said that god had selected his procedurebrother as a candidate for change in america and went on to say, quote, that change will come. the public then responding with a standing ovation.
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so again, a very powerful moment just seven days after walter scott was shot and killed by officer michael slager. at this point, i can tell you we're preparing to see the folks that filled the facility you see behind me walk back out. we're also expecting to see mr. scott's flag-draped casket also carried back into the hearse. and this outraged community did put protests or demonstrations on pause. they said today it's about supporting the scott family. but i can tell you after today's day of solemn remembrance, there will be so many questions to be asked, including why did scott run a week ago. and, of course why did officer slager respond with deadly force. fred? >> and polo even on interviews here on cnn, brothers and
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friends of walter scott said they thought in large part one of the reasons why he ran is because he had back child support, there was an arrest warrant out for him. he had already served time and that in their view it was likely just fear the notion of going back to jail particularly about, you know back child support. of course, a lot of those questions still unanswered. but that was the perspective right here on cnn of one of the brothers and another friend. but what more if anything is being said from other friends and family members, perhaps even about the other passenger who was in the vehicle with mr. scott at that moment? we saw that in that dash cam vehicle that there was another person. has any family member or even friend heard from that person what that person's account was, or even what happened once police even questioned that person? >> fred i can tell you that very few people have actually heard from that person mainly police investigators. and speaking to that person is
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really going to be key. because keep in mind this was essentially the last individual to speak to scott before he made the decision to run away from the vehicle. and, of course we now know how that ended. but really the main key here will be to try to hear from that individual. he would potentially be able to paint a picture of what was happening inside that mercedes before officer slager gave chase and fired those eight shots, five of which hit mr. scott. but at this point, after repeated attempts by cnn to try to track that individual down we have not been able to find him. and really we're told he's only been -- or at least he's only spoken to police investigators. he did it as recently as yesterday and also he was able to speak to them just in the moments following that shooting that happened a week ago today, fred. >> and so polo is anyone saying they find that a rather unusual, that by now perhaps police department might present that public report that report that
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would indicate that person's name what that person's account was. has that even been provided? >> we're told that at this point that person wants to -- or at least is choosing to remain anonymous. we -- several of our teams have actually gone to his place of employment or at least what we originally were told where he worked which is brown distribution. after speaking to that company, they said no he was not an employee here. his family members, mr. scott's family members, also weren't able to provide a whole lot of information. and as for the police reports, at this point have not gone into great detail regarding who that person is. so again, that is one of the big questions that will linger following today's memorial. >> and then of course the dash cam videos are being, you know reviewed. and there have been many angles from your reporting, based on what has been revealed.
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do any of the dash cam videos whether it be from the former officer, michael slager's -- his vehicle, or whether any of the other arriving officers do their dash cams give a new view or does it at least fill in some blanks from the perspective of those who are investigating? >> reporter: well i tell you what we have at this point a time line. but we have a beginning, which are those dash cam videos that you just mentioned. officer slager's dash cam video and also several of his fellow officers that show not only the initial traffic stop but the point of view of some of the responding officers. and then we also have that very graphic and disturbing cell phone video that was captured by that bystander. at the same time there is still that gap. we were able to determine that there was close to 250 yards between the spot where that initial traffic stop happened saturday morning, and where the actual shooting happened. so the main question here what happened during those few seconds, potentially even up to
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a minute between the actual traffic stop itself and the shooting. why did he run, was there an exchange during that tussle and most importantly, again, why did officer slager feel the need to respond with deadly force. >> and then has an account -- and i see some people walking, at least near the microphones set up behind you. and, of course just a reminder as soon as the attorneys representing the family do take to the microphone we'll go to that live. chris stewart, one of the attorneys, we understand will be taking to the microphone and possibly a south carolina representative justin bamberg. polo let's continue to talk if we could. has an account from the arriving officers been made clear about their points of view or what they wrote down or recorded in their reports? has that been made public? >> reporter: you know that is actually a very good question. at this point, the last public version that we received was last wednesday when the north
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charleston city mayor, along with his police chief, took to the podium and they basically brought the public up to speed on what they knew up to that point. but at the same time during that press conference they made it clear that they want to wait until after today's memorial service before they release more information. so at this point, several of the versions from some of slager's fellow officers the ones who actually responded to the scene, we have not heard that quite yet. so it will be interesting to see after today exactly what comes out of that and, of course what the scott legal team or at least what avenues they continue to pursue. of course any moment now we'll expect to hear from them. so we can to pensionly hear what's next for the scott family. >> and walter scott being laid to rest today. there you are outside of the building where services were taking place before he is then going to be buried. and from the family members, can you give us an indication as to how they made their request of
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allowing the service to be public open to the public meaning anyone in the area could attend but at the same time they did say they wanted it still to be somewhat private. how were they able to split the difference so to speak? >> reporter: you know fred again just yesterday we did go to the funeral home in downtown charleston. i myself actually stepped in after identifying myself and i was welcome to step inside. they're simply asking no cameras be involved at this point. they obviously want to share the story of their loved one. they want people to get to know who he is in spite of some of the reports we keep hearing, potentially what may have happened that day. so back to today, you'll see there is a bright yellow tape that surrounds the facility itself here at word ministries. the family requesting that cameras simply stay on that side. but they are welcoming -- if there is room any member of the public any member of the price to take part in this.
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because again, it is a big day for them. at the same time a very emotional one, as well. >> indeed. all right, polo sandoval keep us posted. thank you so much. we'll continue to monitor the situation there, and we'll be right back in the "newsroom"after this.
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jordan jordan spieth's home course but you can tell he is very comfortable there. get used to the name. he's only 21 years old. he's from texas. and right now he has a five-shot lead after just two rounds. cnn sports anchor rachel nichols is in augusta. rachel we all know and that's what makes augusta so incredible anything can happen. but let's talk about who is in the spotlight right now. introduce us to him. >> reporter: yes, absolutely. look it's impressive to be five strokes up after two days but that means you've got two days to play. and so far, he looks so comfortable, he could be playing just a college golf tournament. but oh by the way, it's the masters. and he's got some experience with this. he played very well in this tournament last year as a 20-year-old. he didn't lead from wire to wire but crept into contention to the point where he was actually two strokes up on a final sunday with just 11 holes to play. unfortunately, at that point it
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did seem like the pressure got to him. he sort of started to have some issues. bubba watson was able to charge forward and take the tournament. but he spoke after his round yesterday about learning from that experience and how he thinks things could be different this time. take a listen. >> what i learned was patience. what i learned was that the weekend of a major, those rounds can often seem like two rounds in kind of the mental -- you know stuff that's running through your head. the stress levels can sometimes, you know they're higher. >> reporter: now, the biggest collapse we ever saw at a masters was in 1996 greg norman was up six strokes, and basically just couldn't handle it. really gave away the title. that year has been brought up fred but a couple other golfers when they've been asked about justin spieth. they said listen remember '96 remember '96. >> we all remember '96 and greg
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norman but this guy seems incredibly composed. i think someone else will have to make a charge to win it. >> there is a maturity about him. i lof that he says i learned patience. sometimes it takes a life's journey before you come to terms with that. let's talk about tiger woods, he's had his own journey and a lot of history at the masters. and he looks pretty good though right now, doesn't he? >> reporter: yeah you know tiger so many struggles over the recent years. he's got the back surgeries he was dealing with last year injury problems. this year it just seemed to be recreational golfers had, had the yips for a while. couldn't putt couldn't handle a short game so he took a nine-week break. said he needed to get back into tournament form. nobody knew what kind of tiger woods we were going to get when he showed up at augusta, but we got the funny tiger woods, the fun-loving tiger woods and the golfer tiger woods. he's still 12 strokes out of the lead but playing well. and you can see him making a run here. maybe getting into the top five. that would be good for a return.
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>> and i saw some great pictures of his kids dressed like they were his caddies. very cute stuff. rachel nichols, thanks. we look forward to more. rachel will host all access at augusta, a cnn bleacher report special, 2:30 eastern time today. and, of course we're also awaiting the representatives of the family of walter scott to emerge from this building in somerville south carolina after laying him to rest. some representatives will take to the microphones. we'll take that live as it happens, right after this. the e-class has 11 intelligent driver-assist systems. it recognizes pedestrians and alerts you. warns you about incoming cross-traffic. cameras and radar detect dangers you don't. and it can even stop by itself. so in this crash test, one thing's missing: a crash.
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hello again, thanks so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we expect attorneys to address the family of walter scott. friends and family have been saying goodbye to the 50-year-old. today the unarmed black man was shot and killed last saturday while running from a north charleston police officer. cnn's polo sandoval joining me from somerville south carolina where the funeral service looks like it's wrapping up. we have seen some people emerging leaving that building. and then soon perhaps an
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attorney at another south carolina representative will be taking to the microphones. but for now, polo give me an idea what this service was like for this family. >> reporter: very emotional, fred. i can tell you that we're now going over reports from some of the speakers that really took the podium during today's service, which really reached almost two hours. very emotional, particularly when walter scott's daughter read a poem to her father. and another moment in which anthony scott walter's brother, also took to the podium as well saying, quote, god selected his brother as a candidate for change. and then he went on to promise that that change will come. the crowd then responding with a standing ovation. that theme of change continued also with dr. george hamilton which is really the person that presided over today's service. a bit more -- some of the comments were stronger though. went on to call the shooting
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last saturday an act of overracism. and then went as far as to call walter's death -- at least said it was motivated by quote, racial prejudice. that he was killed as a result of racist heart, at least that the officer had. so very different tones that we saw in the last hour and a half during the ceremony. at this point, we're expecting any moment now two key developments. and that is the american flag-draped casket of walter scott will be carried out of the facility you see behind me as those arrangements continue. and the other key development we're expecting here that is justin van berg and chris stewart, the scott family legal team expected also to take the microphone. we could potentially hear what will come next for the family after today, fred. >> and, of course the investigation still very much under way. still lots of unanswered questions. just within the last you know 24 hours. we are now getting more views of dash cams from the former police
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officer, michael slager's vehicle, as well as the other patrol cars of the other responding officers. just in that community alone, what are some of the questions that people have? what are they expressing about their concerns about their relationship with north charleston police perhaps with their trust in the investigation itself? >> reporter: there is a lack of trust there, among some of the members of the north charleston community. from the very start, they have maintained that that relationship or at least that -- there is no bridge really between some members of the community and the police department. so that's something they're calling for, as far as change when that relationship -- or at least lack. and also the other question is exactly what happened during that very crucial moment. because we now know how it all started a week ago. and, of course we all know how it ended. but a lot of people here want to know what happened during that
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exchange between officer slager and walter scott, what was said and, of course why did the officer feel the need to respond with deadly force during that tussle or potentially after. >> right. the tussle is the word that one of the eye-witnesses told cnn a few days ago. all right, thanks so much polo sandoval. appreciate that from somerville. plenty of diplomatic milestones at the summit of the americas in panama. cuba invited to the high-level talks for the first time in the summit's 20-year history. and last night, president obama and cuban president raul castro shook hands in panama city. and today speculation the two leaders are meeting face-to-face on the sidelines of the america's summit and that of course would be a first meeting of its kind between the two countries since 1959 when then vice president richard nixon met with then prime minister fidel castro. jim acosta is in panama city for us now. so jim, it would seem that this is kind of upstaging any and
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everything taking place there at the summit. >> reporter: right. that's right. this has almost become the obama/castro summit. it has been history in the making and as you said after a half century of cold war relations between these two countries, not really any sort of relations to speak of they have been adversaries for a long time. you do sort of feel this relationship changing. the president saying during some remarks he just wrapped up here at the summit of the americas in panama city that he does want to usher in a new era in relations between the united states and cuba. and he made that plain to all of these western hemispheric leaders, including raul castro there in the same room when the president was speaking. here's what he had to say. >> the united states will not be imprisoned by the past. we're looking to the future. and the policies that improve the lives of the cuban people
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and advance the interests of cooperation in the hemisphere. now, this shift in u.s. policy represents a turning point for our entire region. >> reporter: now, what was even more remarkable was what followed and that is because the president, we should point out, he said for a few moments that latin america should stop blaming the united states for all of its problems. that was sort of a prebuttal to this remarkable 50-minute speech which was really sort of a border line rant on the part of cuban president raul castro who railed against the united states railed against past presidents gave out a litany of grievances that the cuban people have had with the u.s. for decades. but then during what was just an unbelievable moment during castro's remarks, he praised president obama as an honest man. here's what he had to say. >> translator: in my opinion, president obama is an honest man.
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i have read some of his biographies. i mean the two books written about his life. i have not been able to read them in full. i will do that with more time. but i admire him and his life. and i think that his behavior has a lot to do with his humble background. >> reporter: so there you go raul castro saying he's read some of president obama's autobiographies. something you don't hear every day from a cuban leader. and it's just another example of the remarkable history in the making moments we're seeing down here in panama city. we should point out that castro also said during his comments that he does welcome what he expects to be the u.s. step toward taking cuba and the castros, for that matter off the list of state sponsors of terrorism. that has been a key stumbling block in improving ties between the u.s. and cuba. and fredricka, about that meeting that's supposed to happen later on this afternoon,
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we do believe that that is still going to happen. this -- they're not calling it a bilateral meeting. but really an informal meeting between these two leaders, president obama and raul castro where they'll have the most substantive talks between a u.s. and cuban later. as you said earlier, for something like 55 56 years. >> wow. incredible. >> reporter: we'll have a readout on that as well. and the president has a press conference at the end of the day. we'll get his take on that conversation later on this evening. >> they won't be calling this one like the beer summit but maybe the mojito moment. you can take that. i'll let you borrow that one. >> reporter: mojito moment and perhaps seconds to follow. we'll have to see if they can do that. they have certainly broken the ice for that mojito no question about it. >> thanks so much jim acosta. appreciate that. from panama city. all right. a second suspect now has been arrested in connection with a kansas man's alleged plot to bomb a u.s. army base. the justice department says alexander blair knew about john
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booker's plan to detonate a car bomb at ft. riley, but didn't report it. meanwhile, booker also known as muhammad abdela hasan, is charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction, attempting to damage property by means of an explosive and attempting to provide material support to isis. the fbi says it was booker's facebook post that first got their attention last year. here now is cnn's evan perez. >> reporter: a 20-year-old american man was arrested as he prepared to carry out what he thought was a suicide bombing at ft. riley army base in kansas. john t. booker enlisted last year in the army. but the army cancelled his enlistment before he showed up for basic training. that's after the fbi says it found facebook postings, claiming he wanted to carry out jihad attacks. booker also goes by the name muhammad abdallah hasan. the fbi says he wanted to carry out friday's attack for isis. two undercore fbi informants helped orchestrate a sting
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motion helping him buy components of what he thought were explosives. one facebook post read "i will soon be leaving you forever. so goodbye, i'm going to wage jihad in hopes i die." >> the fbi says he told agents he wanted to carry out an inside terrorist attack like the one in ft. hood in 2009 that killed 13 people. >> evan perez, thank you so much. still ahead, we're talking about the road to the white house, 2016. the reintroduction of hillary clinton. why we could see' different side of the former senator, and former secretary of state, who is expected to announce her bid for the white house tomorrow. and we're live in somerville south carolina where 50-year-old walter scott was the center of this funeral service today. and now expect representatives of the family to come out and talk at the microphones there. we'll take that live as it happens. we all enter this world with a shout
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all right. tomorrow hillary clinton is expected it make a huge announcement via social media. sources say the former secretary of state, senator and first lady will launch the first step in her bid for the white house in an online video. joining me right now, donna brazil democratic strategist and vice chair of the dnc voter project. he had tore of the blaze and senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources." good to see all of you. this is another step not necessarily the first step but another step toward the white house for hillary clinton. so don, let me begin with you. in a piece you wrote for cnn.com in march you wrote, after
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spending much of her 2008 campaign seemingly running away from the fact she is a woman, hillary clinton is showing signs that 2016 is going to be a different story. that she has found the person that she wants to present on the campaign trail, and the person is resolutely female. this time she seems to have decided to fully embrace her womanhood as an asset in her quest for the white house. so donna, are you saying that this rollout is a new hillary clinton? because i thought, you know everyone knew she is very much woman, hear me roar and has always been. >> absolutely. look if she decides to run, which we'll know in a couple -- well maybe a day or so there is no question that this time it's important that she embrace over half of the electorate. in the last campaign her adviser said look you shouldn't run as the first female president. rather you should run as the person who has a lot of experience a lot of, you know ideas. this time i think she can run
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with experience ideas. but she can do it in that very strong female voice of hers. she is a very compassionate leader. she is someone who i think cares about ordinary people will work each and every day to earn the support of those voters. as you know fred one of the things that people often forget is that she received over 18 million votes in a very heavily contested primary. that's more votes than her husband received when he ran in 1992. more votes than george w. bush more votes than my former boss al gore. more votes than john mccain mitt romney and, of course barack obama. so let's assume that this is going to be a vigorous campaign. she is on the ground meeting people shaking hands doing the things that candidates must do. this election is about the future and i think she is the leader that will help us usher in a new era. >> what will be interesting too, buc, she is rolling this out in a smaller, more compartmentalize
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compartmentalized way. everyone thinks they know who she is at the root, and in fact you're seeing her opponents are saying they're ready to roll out or intensify their rollout of the anti hillary clinton campaign. but don't her opponents have to do more than that? >> well no i think hillary has learned some lessons from 2008 and one of the biggest lessons of course don't assume this is yours. and what we saw the last time around was that the clinton campaign came out and just had this idea in their heads there wouldn't be any opposition. and this time around obviously, they're going for a sort of very quiet, almost no one is going to notice this. i'm glad they're getting it done. it's anti climb arctic. >> is it? >> absolutely. this is the most anti climbateclimatic. she has to get in early, not early, but officially because she is seeing serious headwinds. she is behind republican candidates that aren't even necessarily the front runners of
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the republican bracket. the brand has been tarnished by the e-mail scandal and we have eight years of president obama and low approval ratings from the democratic party. so she has some strong head winds she needs to deal with. and then of course she talks about economic populism for $100 million woman who hasn't pumped her own gas or driven her own car in 20 years to tell people how much she cares about the middle class, that's going to be a tough sell and clearly where she is going with iowa. she finished third in iowa an embarrassment for her campaign obviously and beginning of the end. but it's going to be much harder than people realize for her to connect with those who aren't already ready for hillary. and to be fair there are a lot of those people. >> okay. so brian, is it all that? i mean in terms of its anti climb climate climatic now it's officially here tomorrow. and then her rollout is the antithesis of what you might expect from hillary, because of her name recognition and brand, et cetera. can this be a new hillary?
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can this be the prelude, i guess, to a new hillary, that her strategy is a little different than most might expect? >> the "new york times" this morning called this entirely unsurprising that she's going to be coming out tomorrow with this video, probably on twitter and other platforms like facebook and youtube, as well. and we should remember she actually came out with a video last time in 2007. it was also a youtube video announcement. but the big difference -- the world has really changed since then. one of the ways the world has changed is cell phones. people aren't going to be consuming the announcement just on youtube or laptop or tv. it's a personal experience to watch something on your cell phone screen. >> do you think -- sorry to interrupt. is that in large part to kind of appeal to the younger, you know voter? >> you know partly it is. all people at this point -- i think it's not a generation -- i think everybody at this point is used to watching on their phone, reading facebook. even grandparents will be seeing the announcement that way. and, of course the media will too on it as we should i think put it into context.
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>> i don't know. >> she can blame it on the video, which is important too. >> she also used a video in 2000. so look we can compare apples to oranges. we can compare 2016 to 2008, 2000 whatever. the key here is this is a campaign about the future. it's about who can give us the ideas and the policy that will enable this country to grow enable this country to succeed, to secure the country. and i think she is going to be a good candidate who can answer those questions. look the republicans are constantly looking in the rear-view mirror. seeing if they can pick up a scandal from two weeks ago and make it relevant tomorrow. this is not what voters are looking for. voters want someone who can answer key pressing questions in their lives. and if she can answer that she will become the next president of the united states. >> i have to agree it is about the future but hillary's inn evidentability -- no one who is
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essentially a fall guy shows she does think she is inevitable. >> don't worry about our party. we have a lot of opposition there. >> there will be lots of opposition. >> here we go. this is the prelude to what it's going to be like. all right. welcome to the race for the white house. we're going to leave it there. thank you, donna, brian stelter. it's going to be an exhausting race. i hope everyone has their seatbelts on. thanks so much guys. all right. pressure at the masters. no one told jordan spieth the 21-year-old from texas. he has a five-shot lead going into today's third round at augusta national. we'll go there, live.
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>> you're going to kill him! >> reporter: officers tried to subdue the family repeatedly tasing them spraying pepper spray, and even tackling them. they had help from a walmart worker and two others but they had little luck. the family finding different ways to continually attack these officers. rolling on the ground when tased, and wiping away that pepper spray. >> personally i've never seen that tactic applied. so i'm not certain where they learned it. obviously, somebody has taught them that. >> reporter: time and time again, the family put their hands up, pretending to surrender, but they never do. and then during this fight, shots are fired. the first shot according to police is one of the suspects shooting the officer in the leg. another shot is an officer shooting this suspect, now deceased. and on the topic of civilians, how close it too close? this is a walmart employee eric
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fields helping police fight off the family. i asked if this is something regular folks should steer clear from, instead of jumping in. >> we are very familiar with mr. fields from walmart, because of our interactions with him at the loss prevention at walmart. so the officers are very familiar with him. the other two gentlemen that approached they were very nonthreatening. >> reporter: six of the family members were arrested. two of them juveniles. facing a variety of charges, including assault of an officer and resisting arrest. that injured officer has been released from the hospital and is recovering from his injuries. this case is still under investigation with dps. in cottonwood pete saratos, abc 15 news. >> we'll keep you posted on that investigation. joining me now, legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson. we just saw police video of that brawl and earlier this week talking about the south carolina north charleston police releasing dash cam video, just moments before walter scott was killed. so is -- are we seeing a
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concerted effort perhaps, by police departments to say we want to be more transparent. we want to show what's happening as it's happening by way of our dash cams? >> fredricka, good afternoon. i absolutely think we are. and i think it's a great thing to have happen. why? we're in an age of technology. and in that technology yes, we have dash cams. there are also body cameras that the police force is using. and i think they're moving to that more readily. and i think it's a good thing to do that. why? a couple different reasons. number one, in the event a police officer knows that there is a body cam or a dash cam, i think certainly they'll be on their best behavior not to suggest they wouldn't ordinarily. we expect and anticipate police should behave normally. but also if the public knows and the public would be on their best behavior i think there is an argument to be made they would be protective of the police force. why? then in that situation you know there wouldn't be any false lawsuits or the like. it's also interesting to draw the parallels between this particular case that we just saw
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the video of at the walmart, and the other case where you looked at the officer in south carolina and what he did. in this particular case in arizona at that walmart, the police use all means necessary. they started with verbal commands and then escalated to the taser. they used pepper spray, they used batons. they did everything they could to preserve life. not until the gun -- there was a struggle and then of course the sergeant was shot in the leg, and that particular point, then of course the officers had to do what they did. there was an imminency of the fear for their life or serious bodily injury. they also used force proportionate to the threats being posed on them. and finally, their actions appeared to be consistent and reasonable. you contrast that with south carolina fredricka, and it painted a troubling and different picture. >> i guess what's interesting too, joey is there had been a premise that having dash cam video is going to help particularly when it comes down to prosecutions. this is videotape that would be revealed in the court of law. but now we're seeing before
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there are any charges filed, before anybody has their first court appearance now it's the police department making this kind of video available. is that in step with what you think should happen in terms of when the transparency begins? or might that be potentially a problem that the market is flooded, or you know websites are flooded or news organizations are flooded with this kind of information to help paint a picture or taint the audience's point of view before you get into a courtroom? >> you know i think it's a great question. and here's my view on that. i think more information, more readily available, the better. because you're dealing with a major question. that question deals with the public trust of the police. there needs to be of course a mutual respect. the public needs to respect the police. the police need to respect the public. and a gap of trust needs to be closed. when you have this type of transparency where everyone knows right away what happened
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i think it has an effect on the community in a positive way. we know what occurred and therefore, even if you look at the parallels between south carolina and you look at what happened in missouri with the whole michael brown incident in terms of how it was handled, the police right away south carolina once the tape was out there, what they did, their actions, the information unfolds, it's out there, they take corrective action. there's an executive order to install body cams on police officers. the whole tenor, the whole approach was different. and then you look at this particular situation, where you know -- where -- i'm sorry, when the michael brown situation, it was just a lot different. and so ultimately fredricka, when you go into a court of law, the videotape is not going to change. so the prosecution is likely not going to change. so i think the more the merrier at the outset certainly doesn't impair or affect an individual's rights in court. there should be more of it. >> all very much thought-provoking. thanks so much joey jackson, appreciate it thank you, fredricka. still ahead, we are live in summerville, south carolina
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cnn's coverage of the masters is brought to you by mercedes benz the best or nothing. all right now to the masters today. third round at golf's most prestigious event. this is the major that tiger woods has won four times and now he is one of the guys chasing leader jordan spieth. cnn's sports anchor rachel nichols is in augusta. rachel tiger is doing pretty good. at the same time, you're going to have to teach me how to say jordan's name. is it speeth or spieth? >> reporter: spieth. we just saw tiger tee off on one. came within inches birdieing the hole ended up having to settle for par, but that is an improvement when you think about on day one he got a bogey after three-putting. so he is playing with more and more confidence every day. i spoke with arnold palmer about
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tiger and he said frankly that's what tiger needs, is confidence more than any particular stroke or drive or putting technique. we are seeing that with him. is it going to catch jordan spieth? he's starting 12 back from the leader. that's going to be hard to make up over the next two days. but if he can sneak in for a top-five finish that will be a big deal after missing the last nine weeks of golf. so that's what he's aiming for, of course. he would still would love to win, he's tiger, but looking to do better every day. >> jordan spieth while unfamiliar to many of us has made his rounds at the masters before at the tender age of 20. what's different for him this time? >> reporter: yeah i don't know what you were doing when you were 20. i personally fred when i was 20 was not almost winning the masters. he almost won the masters last year with 11 holes to go. he was -- had a two-stroke lead looked like he was in good position but had a few struggles on the back nine. we saw bubba watson take charge and take his second green
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jacket. but jordan said he learned from that experience learned how to deal with the mental pressure of that situation, the entire world staring at you, your name on leader boards on pretty much every hole ear at augusta. and feels he's in a better position had year and that's good because he is once again leading, commanding lead. the leaderboards will be taunting from everywhere. he has blinders on knows how to ignore them. and he has looked relaxed, calm and ready to go. >> good for him. we will all be watching. of course we'll be watching you too, an hour from now with your special "all access." rachel nichols, thank you so much. "all access" at augusta, cnn bleacher report special, 2:30 eastern time. we'll be right back.
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all right. we're expecting attorneys from walter scott's family to address the camera shortly. family and friends have been saying goodbye to the 50 year-old today. the funeral taking place in summerville, south carolina. scott, an unarmed black man, was shot and killed last saturday while running from a north charleston police officer. and as brian todd reports, there is now video that shows more of what happened that day. >> cnn has obtained stunning new dash cam video from other officers arriving on the scene moments after walter scott is shot. you can see officer james gan speeding from a nearby traffic call when he hears shots are fired. here it appears you can see
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feidin santana at a nearby fence, shooting his cell phone video, the key evidence in the murder case against officer michael slager. the man at the epicenter of this case is now in isolation. former north charleston police officer michael slager is being held alone in a jail cell the charleston county sheriff tells cnn. and he's being monitored for his mental health. cnn is told investigators from the state law enforcement division are combing through every frame of the video of the shooting. >> taser, taser, taser! >> reporter: as well as dash cam video. the video still leaves gaps. >> we don't know whether they were fighting over his gun, taser or just fighting and the officer was trying to subdue him. >> reporter: there are also new revelations from state investigators who say initial clues in the vacant lot where walter scott was killed just didn't add up. a spokesman for the south carolina law enforcement division says there were inconsistencies and questions about what appeared to be multiple gunshot wounds in mr.
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scott's back. they say, quote, something was not right about what happened in that encounter. the new details come as african-american leaders are growing more vocal in their criticism of the police. >> enough is enough! >> reporter: they say police disproportionately target black motorists for traffic stops. one telling cnn, police officers look for broken tail lights. the dash cam video shows the center light on his back windshield was out but that his lower brake lights worked. that kind of stop critics say, is a daily occurrence. >> it is a major -- any time you right down the street in any given day, you will see four to five policemen have pulled someone over that's black. you know. any given day. and people see that and it brings anger. >> reporter: we reached out to the north charleston police department. we didn't hear back. let's bring in our panel now as we await a news conference to take place outside of the church
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where walter scott's funeral took place. and so i may have to interrupt our conversation if it does happen. i'm joined by former police academy director and former police chief in north carolina richard weinblatt. plus criminal defense attorney and cnn legal analyst, danny cevallos in new york. good to see you gentlemen. >> good to see you. >> richard, you first. what does the dash cam video tell you about officer slager's mind set right before the shooting meaning after the routine stop you hear the dialogue of him asking for i.d. about the vehicle, et cetera. is there anything that seems customary to you or out of the ordinary? >> initially, it seems very customary. it's very professional. it's very polite. it's following normal protocols. and the problem is of course when the situation ends up getting escalated and we don't know exactly where that struggle
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transpired there. we see that mr. scott ran from the vehicle. which obviously was not a good move. but that in no way entitles former officer slager to do what he did. and i can tell you every officer i've talked to universally condemns the outcome of what happened. >> and then danny, the former officer, michael slager is now in jail. and he is facing murder charges. he's had two attorneys, or at least one attorney prior to now his attorney andy savage has released the first statement yesterday, saying that previous counsel was provided to mr. slager by the southern state's police benevolent association pursuant to mr. slager's membership. we have confirmed that no investigation was undertaken by mr. slager's previous counsel, or the pba. unfortunately, despite having made requests he andy savage has not received the cooperation from law enforcement that the
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media has. so what does this kind of statement say to you in terms of the fight ahead, or how andy savage will be defending michael slager? >> well, we defense attorneys are constantly complaining about how we don't get information in a timely manner from either law enforcement or prosecutors. it's just the way of the world. we'll probably continue to do it for the next millennia. so in this case what we're seeing happen is that the -- at least the initial counsel didn't meet up to whatever standards that the second counsel, once he got on the case -- apparently there were statements made. i think going forward, the defense has to build a case that focuses entirely on the moment when the officer will allege that mr. scott reached for his taser, or firearm or something else. he's going to have to make that case. because otherwise this is a mere arrest for either a traffic stop or a bench warrant on unpaid child support. and i think people need to
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realize, it's something people are not talking about. a bench warrant for child support is not a crime. it's essentially police acting as bill collectors. and that's it. and i think that's an issue that's going to come to light in this case. >> so that's a problem at the root. it's not a violent crime. >> it's not a crime. >> it's not a crime. and he wasn't being stopped for that but the discovery may have been that upon being stopped for this you know light that may have been out, the discovery may have been made a bench warrant out for his arrest because he hasn't paid child support. and there is at least one family member who came on cnn to say he had already served time mr. scott had for back child support and he may have run simply because he was afraid of the notion of going to jail over that same kind of thing. >> but fredrico owe. >> that's not serving time. that's the thing. he's not serving time on the unpaid child support. that's called a purge. they essentially put you in jail until you can make your payments. it's not a sentence. and it's not punishment. that's the thing that nobody is
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talking about. >> well and no matter what he did or alleged to have done it does not justify pumping bullets into his back when he does not, according to tennessee versus garner pose a threat to the officer. that's the key aspect. depose a threat to the officer at the time. >> right. >> and tennessee v garner deals with a felon. there is no felony anywhere in sight in this case. it's all unpaid child support. >> all right. but it looks like we have two separate issues. and it also -- >> never poses a threat. >> a systemic problem that there is about what offenses gets people caught up in trouble. and that's one thing. and then now we've got the other, which is trying to figure out what was that moment that none of these dash cam or none of these -- none of the videotape that we as a public have been able to see. what elicited a response from this ex officer to then pull out his pistol and shoot this man who was running. that is the part we still do not
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know richard. >> right. but that's the problem, fredricka. and danny is right about the fleeing felon part to a degree. what it really dealt with is whether a person posed a threat to the officer or someone else. and he did not. he was running at a slow jog. the officer the officer took eight shots, took a step okay and that is not heat of the moment. that is not passion. okay. every officer i talked to is a professional ethical, and they do not stand behind what this man did. they do millions and millions of stops all year round with no problem whatsoever. this is an aberration. this is not the way we police in america. okay contrary to what some folks think, they want to paint a broad bush. not all african-american males are problems, quote-on-kwoetdquote, and not all police officers are racist or bad. this one on its face did not
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have a threat per tennessee versus garner. he did not have a threat. >> this certainly is imptous for further discussion and action on reform and i hear you, danny, a form of criminalizing things offenses grievances that really should not be staring at jail time or being held in jail as a result of not being able to pay bills and, as you say, police officers becoming like bill collectors. very strong points certainly means we'll have more conversations on this and hopefully we'll talk about resolutions too. for now, richard, danny, thank you so much for the dialogue. appreciate it. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ if you want a paint that's more than just easy to scrub. if you want a paint that actually repels dirt and grime. if you want a paint that stand's up to life's wear and tear...
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all right, checking the top stories, two alabama students charged with raping with woman on spring break. police in panama city found video of the alleged rape. they continue to search for others who may have been involved. >> these people come into panama city beach think that this is acceptable. this is not acceptable. >> the suspects are troy university students both have been suspended. families are beginning to return home after a train derails in
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south carolina that happened friday night near trenton, and 39 cars derailed one of them spilling ammonia nitrate. thankfully no injuries reported. cause of the derailment is under investigation. not at ocean's 11 but the real deal? this captures a play-by-play as thieves pull off a heist last weekend in london. authorities yet to put a price on the stolen loot but speculations place it around $300 million. the kicker? police are now saying they heard the burglar alarm going off, but they did not respond. got much more straight ahead in news but first here cnn's "vital signs" with dr. sanjay thank you for being with us today.
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