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new york. we begin with president obama and raul castro meeting right now. certainly a historic moment. this informal hello if you will follows an apology of sorts earlier today from castro to the president. making his first appearance at the summit he used the occasion to really lecture the assembly on what cuba has been dealing with for more than 50 years. his rhetoric grew heated. afterwards though he said this. >> translator: so it is fair that i apologize to president obama, but i am one of those who thinks and i have told this to several heads of state and government that i see around this table now, i have told them in private meetings that i have had with them in my country, i have told them that in my opinion president obama is an honest man. >> our rosa flores is covering this story for us in panama city. she joins me now. what a stunning moment when you had him say, look what you and other countries, the united states have done to cuba is wrong and i condemn it.
but i do not blame your leader. i do not blame president obama. what did you make of it? >> reporter: well let me start with this poppy. breaking right now cnn learning that president obama and president castro are sitting in the same room meeting, speaking. i'm getting some quotes from inside that room. i want to read a few for you because these are from president obama. him saying "this is obviously a historic meeting. the history between the united states and cuba is complicated," he says "after 50 years of policy that has not worked, it was time for us to try something new." and that is the atmosphere poppy. we actually have a few photos. i'm going to try to show them to you. this is happening now as we speak. these two leaders very much sitting next to each other. it's described to us as a meeting like you would see at the oval office for example. it gives you an idea of what these two leaders are doing at this point in time.
there's a small pool of reporters that's in there. and so we will be getting more quotes. we will be getting more information about what those discussions are like. but like you mentioned, it was history in the making to listen to these -- to both world leaders, president obama first saying you know we know that the united states' history is not perfect. he said, but he wants to move forward. and that's one of the reasons why he's here. especially in specifically with cuba. and it was fascinating to hear the point from president castro saying you know i've apologized to president obama. now, poppy, the other thing i've got to tell you is president castro said i thought about taking that portion of my speech out. i took it out. and then right now i just ad libbed it in. he added it at that point in time because he felt so passionate about it. >> and also president obama,
rosa today saying we the united states will not be imprisoned by our pasts. we've seen a dramatic change in terms of u.s. policy towards cuba. and we may see a dramatic change today when we hear from the president in this live press conference. do we expect that he will announce that the united states has removed cuba from the list of countries that sponsor terrorism? >> that would be huge for the cubans poppy. i know for a fact that the state department has sent that recommendation to president obama's team. but of course let's remember the process. so the state department recommends makes the recommendation to the president of the united states they've recommended for cuba to be removed from the state sponsors of terrorism list. but then his team needs to evaluate president obama makes the call. we don't know that he's going to make that announcement. but of course we're going to be keeping our eyes and ears open. because if he does it's going to be huge news for the cubans.
it's another thing that president castro mentioned during his speech saying why are we still on this list? >> right. >> and pretty much making a plea for the removal. >> rosa give us a sense of what that would mean for the average person in cuba. if cuba were to be removed from that list? what does that mean for everyone on the ground? >> reporter: you know for people in cuba -- and you know poppy, i've been there twice in the past four months since this announcement was first made of this path to new and renewed diplomatic relations. people in cuba on the ground i've got to tell you, you walk down the streets and people will just be singing and saying president obama's name on the ground because they are so happy that there's a path for normalized relations with cuba. and i believe we're going to have video here shortly, poppy. let me know if you see it on the screen because i don't have
return. but people are very excited. they're really happy about these normalized relations going forward. and why? i'll tell you exactly why. because people there have told me, they tell me that you know we want the basics. we want food money so we can put food on the table, so we can educate our kids and so our kids can have opportunities around the globe. and that is exactly what normalized relations are going to do. we're already seeing with for example, air b & b offering 1,000 listings in cuba. and, poppy, that is money in the pockets of cubans. we're looking at that video now, poppy, i believe. >> we are. >> reporter: and this of course president obama and president raul castro. historic event. there you see them. >> so rosa as we continue to play this video we're going to try to listen in for a moment.
>> -- over the course of the last several months there have been contacts between the u.s. and cuban government. and in december as a consequence of some of the groundwork that had been laid both myself and president castro announced a significant change in policy and the relationship between our two governments. [ inaudible question ] [ inaudible question ]
s of a policy that had not changed on the part of the united states it was my belief that it was time to try something new. >> the president there saying it is his belief that after fifty years of this strained incredibly strained relationship between the u.s. and cuba that it was "time to try something new." rosa flores i'm so glad we have you on the ground there in panama someone who has been to cuba reporting on the ground twice in the last four months after these relations have changed dramatically between these two nations. you know earlier today, rosa the president did say there will continue to be significant differences between our two countries. so this is certainly not a mending of everything. there are differences. what are some of those key differences at this point that even though we do have more normalized relations we're working towards with cuba what remain the difficult points? >> reporter: you know there are several, poppy.
just think about a few things. so cuba is a one-party state. it's a communist country. the united states of course represents a democracy and fights for democracy around the world. so that in and of itself one of those contentions. there are groups in cuba who still believe that there are human right violations in that country. and those people are very outspoken. and so the united states recognizes that there are some people who do feel oppressed in that country. and that's something that the united states speaks out against. and so those are just a few, you know to mention about what the united states doesn't represent or what the united states speaks out against. cuba on the other hand president castro mentioning it today, saying that they're hoping to get respect. so there's a lot of give and take in diplomacy, i think. and a lot of you know smiling afterwards and symbolic
handshakes but these are two different countries, two different ideologies. they stand for two different things. and they're hoping to mend those fences. and hopefully have embassies here pretty soon. i know for a fact that one of the things that the united states is pushing for, for example, is for the embassy in havana for american diplomats to be able to travel freely within havana which they have not been able to do in the entrance section that's right there. and so you know it's little things like that that they're negotiating. now, i'm really curious as to the meeting that's happening right now and those questions if they're going to ask him about the terrorism list. >> right. >> reporter: that's one of the things for cuba has been one of their biggest contentions. they want to be removed from that list. >> right. we'll be watching. we're expecting a press conference from the president there at the summit of the americas in panama. we'll bring that to you live when it happens. rosa flores appreciate the reporting. thank you very much. quick break. we're back in a minute.
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all right. that lockdown we told you about at the u.s. capitol has now ended. it began over what was apparently a suicide on the grounds of the capitol. you're taking a look at live pictures there as they are now allowing people back in and out of the capitol. what the police there are saying is that a man died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound while on the west front lawn of the capitol that faces the washington monument. police are also investigating for a while a suspicious package. everything has been cleared though. the lockdown has been lifted. tourists allowed back inside. and those being held inside are allowed back out. to south carolina now. a very somber good-bye to walter scott, the man fatally shot in the back by a police officer just one week ago. his flag draped casket was carried out of a somerville church just a short time ago followed by family and friends embracing and crying. very difficult day for them.
meanwhile, south carolina's state law enforcement division met with the unidentified passenger, the person who was sitting next to scott in the car last week right before he was shot and killed. that's the unidentified passenger. he has been released without any charges. our martin savidge joins me now in somerville. i know martin you were inside this service today and you said the church was absolutely packed. many more people turned up than could actually fit inside of the church. and scott's daughter spoke. she read a poem. >> reporter: right, she did. it was absolutely overflowing in the sanctuary. it was very difficult for anyone who is not family to get in there. but on top of that there are many, many more people who wanted to be there. one of the most powerful moments came when one of his daughters got up and read a poem to her father. it was difficult for me to hear because i was in the way back and she's soft spoken. but you could tell the entire
congregation was absolutely silent. you could see a lot of teary eyes and when she was done there was applause. i think that was one of the more deep emotional moments of the service. another moment came when anthony, one of scott's brothers said that god selected his brother as a candidate for change for america. in fact change was a common theme expressed throughout much of the service. one of the last things that was stated was there is going to be change so that walter's death will not be in vain. the service ended and the people filed out and moved on to the grave site where he'll be buried. >> marty, you've been there all week reporting on this. let's talk about the change. i mean i know there have not been -- there's not been any violence. there's been some protests. obviously some people are appalled by what has happened. what change are people saying they want to see come in the
wake of this? >> reporter: there are a lot of people who want to see change in law enforcement especially when it comes to the attitudes and how officers act when working with communities of color. i think that is of big concern right now. the other concern here is that much has been made about body cameras, technology that could be introduced. but the problem with that is that there are those in the community who say it needs to go a lot deeper than that. we're not just talking about bringing new technology here. the last thing i'll mention is everyone is hopeful for change but otherwise this is very early in the whole process. and that other officers in the past have been charged with serious crimes never convicted. clearly murder is a very serious charge here and that is probably why this community has moved forward peacefully. but they will be watching where it really goes. and if those charges stick, poppy. >> absolutely.
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kansas man's alleged plot to bomb a u.s. army base. the justice department says that alexander blair knew about john booker's plan to try and detonate what would be a suicide car bomb at ft. riley. booker was arrested as he made his final attempts to detonate the bomb. the bomb actually turned out to be a fake. it was a decoy planted by the undercover feds who thought -- who he thought were his co-conspirators. joining me to talk about the bob bear cnn intelligence analyst and former cia operative. when you look at this this is just another example of the lone wolf threat. the threat that homeland security secretary jeh johnson said is of such concern and that is really the toughest thing for law enforcement in this country to go after. how do you tackle something like this? i mean thank goodness there were undercover agents in this case. but there aren't always. >> well poppy, i think we've gotten very lucky. these kids and they are young, go up on social media and you can see the pattern of their
recruitment. they start looking at sites whether it's about iraq or syria or libya or wherever. and then they start getting into chat rooms and the rest of it and talk about the merits of jihad or whatever you'd like. so you can actually follow this conversion on social media. and then it's a matter of the fbi taking a source a confidential informant and putting them next to these people and seeing if they're serious. and once they proceed to the act acquire explosives or a car or whatever buy guns. then they can move to the arrest. but they have to have the timing absolutely right. >> right. >> i mean people are just talking about it you can't send them to jail. they actually have to take one act toward making that attack. so for the fbi it's a very tricky you know thing to do. but they've been very lucky so far. and they've been very good. >> so the fbi has said that there are investigations open in all 50 states in this country into people trying to collaborate and in some way or
another with isis. this seems to be another example of someone trying to carry out an attack against our men and women in the armed services in this country. does it surprise you when you hear that investigations are open in all 50 states? >> all 50 states yes. but a year ago or more than a year ago law enforcement has been telling me the islamic state is here. it's got followers. it's planning attacks. you know the specifics of course i don't know but there's a lot of people that like to do us damage. what concerns me is these apparently nonmuslims converting to islam for reasons i can't understand and neither can law enforcement. other than some weird attachment to these internet cults. and then they're turning to violence what makes this potential crime, you know so difficult to catch. >> i also want to ask you about this. erin burnett interviewed defense secretary ash carter this week.
and she asked him who is a greater threat isis or al qaeda. and he pointed to al qaeda. i know we talk so much about isis recruitment and frankly how successful they've been at their recruiting through social media here in the united states. but do you believe at all that that takes the eye off of al qaeda at all? >> well i think al qaeda and when the experienced groups especially the ones in yemen put their mind at doing an attack in the united states they're more likely to get away with it. they've got advanced bombs that can bring airplanes down. they've got operatives that are trained that could move in this country and get under the radar of social media. they understand that better than the islamic state. i think frankly the islamic state if it continues to survive in the middle east will be a threat to political stability whereas al qaeda is more of a terrorism threat. >> you say if it survives if isis survives in the middle east. do you believe there's a risk of isis -- do you think isis is
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all right. i want to take you back to panama now where president obama and cuban president raul castro just met for a very historic one-on-one meeting, the summit of the americas is where it took place. frankly, this summit has been filled with firsts for the u.s. and cuba. joining me on the phone senior cnn white house correspondent jim acosta. jim, give me a sense of what it's like being on the ground there and what was said that is most significant in this pretty brief meeting between the two leaders? >> yeah, it was brief but important, poppy. i'm in the room where president obama's going to be coming in potentially within the next half
hour to an hour to give a press conference on exactly what he talked about with raul castro. and as the president said at the top of this meeting which was really the first encounter between u.s. and cuban leaders of this magnitude in some 56 years the president said obviously this is a historic occasion. and that both sides while they have their differences are now going to try to chart a new path forward. and here's a bit of what the president had to say. >> this is obviously a historic meeting. the history between the united states and cuba is obviously complicated. and over the years a lot of mistrust has developed. but during the course of the last several months there have been contacts between the u.s. and the cuban government. kp in december as a consequence of some of the groundwork that had been laid both myself and
president castro announced a significant change in policy and the relationship between our two governments. >> now, for his part raul castro he also gave remarks, which was interesting. these were remarks when the u.s. press were in the room. and he said we're willing to discuss everything. but he said "we have to be very very patient." that's an indication from the cuban leader that while he may pursue reforms here in the coming years, they're not going to come overnight. and i suspect that is a message we're going to hear from the president when he come sboos this room where i'm standing now to give a press conference here within the next hour or so. some remaining unanswered questions though poppy, the president and his administration essentially not really confirmed whether or not the state department has recommended cuba be taken off the u.s. list sponsor state terrorism. we're curious whether or not the president talked about that with
the cuban leader. the cubans have cited this as an obstacle to re-establishing embassies in washington and havana. according to the report the cuban leader did say these embassies will be reopening. so i think what we saw here in panama poppy, was really history in the making. perhaps the final end to the cold war that existed for more than 50 years between the u.s. and cuba. it was fascinating and we're going to get more on that here within the next hour with the president after this press conference poppy. >> jim, i know you've been speaking with a senior administration official from the obama administration who said even they were surprised to hear some of the words that castro chose to use when he gave his sort of presentation to the group of leaders apologizing directly to president obama. >> that's right. and that might have even been the most fascinating moment of the day. you know president obama gave his remarks. right after that raul castro
went and he started off by joking that he was going to make up for lost time because he had missed out on all these summits when cuba wasn't invited over all these years. and he sort of went through the litany of grievance the cuban people and government have about the u.s. and meddling in cuba's affairs as the castros like to put it. but he said during the course of these remarks, poppy, that president obama was unlike the ten previous presidents before him and that he described president obama as an honest man, somebody he admires. he says he bases this on the fact that he skimmed through president obama's autobiography. there's a whopper of a news alert right there that raul castro is reading president obama's autobiographies. but it just goes to show you that it really is a new day when it comes to this relationship between the u.s. and cuba. >> but jim, what about republicans response in i know it's early going but you had jeb bush tweeting earlier today obama meets with castro but
refuses to meet with netanyahu. what else are we hearing or do you expect us to hear from republicans? >> right. well marco rubio, the florida senator's going to be presumably announcing he's running for president on monday gave an interview where he said the obama administration's expected decision to take cuba off the list of state sponsor terrorism is "ridiculous." and he wlooef believes the president is doing this just to pad his personal legacy. that might be a question that might be thrown at the president here when he comes out to hold this news conference here shortly. but, you know the president reiterated today that he wants to see the embargo lifted on cuba. that would require congress. congress needs to pass legislation that would lift the embargo. and, poppy, republicans would essentially block that there may be some democrats who block that. bob menendez of cuban decent he would also potentially block that. the president knows he's not
going to be able to get everything he wants as part of this normalization of relations with cuba. but he's going to do from what we can tell everything he can possibly do with the powers of the presidency to move this ball forward as far as he would like to see it move forward. but no question about it, folks like marco rubio, jeb bush they don't want to see this happen. and they'll be doing everything they can to block the president's path here in the days ahead. poppy. >> jim acosta, senior white house correspondent there for us in the room where the president will hold what will be a historic press conference there in panama talking about this and many other top issues. we're going to bring that press conference to you live as soon as it happens. quick break. we're back on the other side.
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the penalty phase in the trial of convicted boston marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev is now scheduled to begin on april 21st. that is the day after this year's boston marathon. and during that phase the same jury that found dzhokhar tsarnaev guilty will decide whether or not he should be put to death or spend the rest of his life in prison. our alexander field has more. >> reporter: guilty on all 30 counts according to a jury who convicted dzhokhar tsarnaev of a number of crimes including use of a weapon of mass destruction and found him responsible for four deaths. martin richard, krystle campbell,lingzi lu and sean
collier. prosecutors will argue their cases in front of the same jury as the next phase of this trial begins. the prosecution seeking the death penalty caesar nevadasayscaesarsays tsarnaev wanted equal crime. hoping to save his life the defense argues he was dragged into a plot by a monster who master minded the attacks. tsarnaev is represented by judy clarke who has successfully spared her clients' lives in a number of high profile cases. she's known as a staunch opponent of the death penalty. when the trial resumes the jury will hear another round of opening statements along with testimony from new witnesses before they weigh whether or not to sentence tsarnaev to death. >> joining me now reporter for the boston globe, she's covered this case and the whole trial extensively. thanks for being with me. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> you know in all of this it's so important to focus on the people right?
the victims, those that died and those that managed to live through this horrific attack. i'm interested in what you're hearing from them. i mean are any of them saying what they want to see happen to dzhokhar tsarnaev in terms of punishment? >> well i think there have been some who liz norden for example the mother with two sons that each lost a leg, she's spoken out in favor of the death penalty. there are some other victims who said i think they are philosophically opposed. i think it's been awkward for some victims at this stage of the trial, during the guilt phase, to sort of say if they are against the penalty, i don't think they want to look like they're undermining the government at this point. but i'm sure among victims there's probably the kind of division you see in this whole state on this topic. >> sure sure. when you look at this this is really like a new trial. more people testifying more evidence that's allowed in the penalty phase. do you have any sense of new evidence that may be presented,
new victims, witnesses that may testify that we haven't heard from yet? >> i doubt that we are going to see any victims that we have never heard of before. i think the ones that have been most you know, severely injured are pretty well known now. and i think that they will be the ones that are brought out by the government. the defense obviously this is really going to be the first chance that they have to sort of robustly present their case. and there you're going to hear a lot more about their narrative as to why dzhokhar tsarnaev did this. >> and dzhokhar tsarnaev, when police were hunting for him and he was hiding in that boat scrawled on the side of the boat right, and talked about how his brother sort of got the ultimate gift and was a martyr for the cause, et cetera. some have said look, does he want -- you know regardless of what his defense attorney wants does he want the death penalty so that he can become a martyr? has that been part of the discussion at all?
>> well it hasn't been part of the discussion in court. and certainly i think that anyone who saw what he wrote on the boat has got to wonder i mean, if you're jealous of your brother being in paradise now, why don't you want to go there? i don't know i mean i certainly think legally if he wants his lawyers to present no defense whatsoever right now, i do believe legally he has the power to do that. i mean i don't think these lawyers can sort of push their own agenda against his wishes. so i have to believe that he has decided that for whatever reason he does want to live. because otherwise i don't think the lawyers are allowed to put up a defense now if that's not what he wants. >> when you have the federal government attorney general eric holder calling for, you know, death penalty in this case. someone who has been opposed, eric holder has been opposed to the death penalty, at the same time juxtapose that with the defense attorney judy clarke known for keeping notorious
terrorists murderers like the unabomber off death row. never has she seen one of her clients get the death penalty. >> i think my sense of it is that eric holder and at least this is what the government's case has been as well is they see this very much as part of the war on terrorism. this isn't just a couple brothers who did some awful bombing. that this is almost like a military war situation. that they are like these lone wolf terrorists that have been radicalized on the internet and have begun to just try to create death and destruction to send a political message. so i think that the government too here in this case has presented it along those lines. and i think it's probably tactical too because this state tends to be anti-death penalty. but i think that what might get some jurors over that hump is this idea that we can't go
lightly on terrorism. >> thank you very much for coming on. we appreciate it. we know you'll be back in court when that penalty phase begins on the 21st of april. appreciate it. thanks so much. coming up what a lot of people are talking about today, hillary clinton expected to make it official. she is running for president, the announcement expected tomorrow. how the polls look straight ahead. we're going to talk about that but first this -- >> robust would be one way to describe dr. ellsworth 100-year-old retired heart surgeon occasionally does his own yard work walks regularly, still drives. you drove here today. >> driving is nothing. i worked until i was 95. assisting mind you. >> yeah. >> i could have done heart surgery, but it wouldn't have been fair to the patient because sometimes you need reserve strength. if you gave me something to memorize i would memorize it just as quickly now as i would when i was 20. >> how is your health?
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see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. all right. if you like golf you're paying very close attention to what's happening right now in augusta, georgia. the third round of the masters is underway the world's top golfers are all chasing an unlikely name at the top of the leaderboard, a 21-year-old american jordan spieth. cnn sports anchor john rid el joins me from augusta. is it too soon to call this guy the next big thing? >> reporter: maybe a little soon but everything he's done over the last two days certainly would lead you to believe he's got an incredibly bright future. he's been touted probably for some time as a man with a big future ahead of him in golf. he's already won several times. he was actually contending here 12 months ago. he ended up finishing second in what was his first attempt at the masters when he was just 20 years old. his score over the first two
holes has already been -- first two rounds has already been historic. i'd say he's a little more cautious today, but he remains at 14 under for the tournament. he is leading by 4. but there is a rather hungry pack chasing him down of some very big names behind him. >> so let's talk about that pack. i mean you were telling me tiger's playing well mickelson's playing well. who do you think his biggest challenger is right now? >> reporter: well, it's hard to say who his biggest challenger is. of course tiger woods has had his problems recently. he had to take nine weeks off so he could really kind of fall in love with the game again and rehabilitate himself from the mental and physical problems he'd had. but he is playing phenomenally well. tiger woods currently at 7 under and starting to go on a bit of a run. he's got the patrons and the crowd at augusta really roaring for him. and you can see he's really pumped up and enjoying it too. right now as we speak phil mickelson is his closest
challenger. of course lefty has won augusta three times already. he's had a pretty horrible last 15 or 16 months but just in the last couple of weeks he started producing some good form. and he usually turns it on at augusta and he seems to be doing so right now. it's too early to tell how it's going to play out, but it's certainly very interesting. and spieth's going to have his work cut out for sure. >> very exciting. before i let you go don, tell me a little bit about spieth. i mean what do we know about this 21-year-old who has just become a phenom? >> reporter: well he was a superb amateur and a superb college player. he's from texas. he's from dallas. and texas has produced more green jacket winners than any other state in this country. ben crenshaw was his idol. and he's just incredibly composed. i mean that's the one thing that people who meet him as i have are instantly struck by. it's just how mature he seems to be how together he is. he seems to wear the pressure very very well.
and he's certainly well-placed to do well here. >> well that is an important trait to wear pressure well in the game of golf. thanks. especially at the masters. thanks don. appreciate it. have fun out there. we're going to take a quick break. coming up next we're going to monitor what we're waiting for which is that live news conference with president barack obama happening in panama very shortly. this follows his historic meeting with raul castro of cuba the president will be taking reporter questions. we'll have that as soon as it happens. stay with us. the lightest or nothing. the smartest or nothing. the quietest or nothing. the sleekest... ...sexiest ...baddest ...safest, ...tightest, ...quickest, ...harshest... ...or nothing. at mercedes-benz we do things one way or we don't do them at all.
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all right. it has been a foregone conclusion for months now, but tomorrow sunday hillary clinton is expected to make it official that she is running for president. according to sources within her camp she will announce her candidacy on social media in a video. no big rally, no big fanfare. she'll then hit the campaign trail in two early primary states iowa and new hampshire. the latest cnn/orc poll has clinton as the clear front runner in this race by a wide margin. on the democratic side she led her closest challenger vice president joe biden 15% to 62%. she came in ahead against the republican matchups including
11% lead over declared candidate rand paul. brianna keilar takes a closer look now at clinton's strategy this time around. >> don't you some day want to see a woman president of the united states of america? >> reporter: sweeping aside months even years of speculation, cnn has learned hillary clinton will announce her presidential campaign this sunday. like her 2007 announcement. >> i announce today that i'm forming a presidential exploratory committee. >> reporter: it will come via video, a message already filmed to be released on social media. but that is where clinton advisers hope the comparisons to her failed 2008 bid will end. in a newly released epilogue to her book "hard choices," clinton lays out a rationale for her candidacy. that the birth of her granddaughter charlotte pushed her to run. and will fuel a campaign message about equal opportunity for all. unfortunately, she writes too few of the children born in the united states and around the
world today will grow up with the same opportunities as charlotte. clinton says that becoming a grandmother, rather than make me want to slow down it has spurred me to speed up. she will follow her announcement sunday with a trip to the early caucus state of iowa. >> i'm back! >> reporter: in 2008 her third place finish there signalled the beginning of the end for her campaign. >> thank you. >> reporter: a new quinnipiac university poll shows her admission she used a personal e-mail account to conduct government business as secretary of state may have affected her favorability there. and clinton will need to navigate other challenges distinguishing herself from a relatively unpopular president obama without alienating his vast coalition of loyal voters. handling one of the most controversial part of obama's record foreign policy. she served as his secretary of state and was in charge during the benghazi attack in 2012.
and questions about her age. if elected she would be 69 when she took office making her the second oldest president in history. and there's also the bill factor, how will the campaign manage this sometimes unpredictable former president? >> this whole thing is the biggest fairytale i've ever seen. >> reporter: clinton's staff working out of a base already rented in new york. 5:00 eastern. you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow in new york. this is an hour packed with news. president obama expected to hold a news conference any moment as he prepares to leave the summit of the americas being held in panama. it has already been full of historic firsts as the u.s. and cuba officially work towards burying the cold war hatchet.
a short time ago when the two men sat down for an informal one-on-one talk you're seeing it right there, we're going to talk about what was said. this was castro's first appearance at the event. for many years he and the former leader of cuba have not been invited. castro used the occasion to lecture the assembly on the long list of grievances cuba has with the united states. among them he said the u.s. holds onto that naval base at guantanamo bay without any legal right. he also said 77% of the cuban population grew up under the economic hardships of u.s.-imposed embargoes of goods and trade. he also referred back to the failed cia mission at the bay of pigs in 1961. he called the people involved bandits. but then this was just a moment that took a lot of people by surprise, when he was done with that castro apologized directly to president obama for the heated rhetoric saying that he doesn't hold obama personally responsible for what ten u.s. presidents did before him. >> the point is the united
states will not be imprisoned by the past. we're looking to the future. and the policies that improve the lives of the cuban people and advance the interests of cooperation in the hemisphere. now, this shift in u.s. policy represents a turning point for our entire region. >> joining me on the phone senior white house correspondent jim acosta also with us from panama cnn correspondent shasta darlington. jim, let me begin with you. i know you're standing by waiting for the president to give this news conference. what has stood out to you most about what has happened there today? >> well you know poppy, i think we're just watching history in the making. it's unfolding here at the summit of the americas here in panama. and i think what you can describe today as was a first step in what could be a very long process. and president obama said as much as he sat down for this meeting
with cuban leader raul castro. he said obviously there's been a lot of mistrust that's built up over five decades of frayed relations between the u.s. and cuba. but he feels like it is time to try something new. and here's more of what the president had to say. >> this is obviously a historic meeting. the history between the united states and cuba is obviously complicated. and over the years a lot of mistrust has developed. but during the course of the last several months there have been contacts between the u.s. and the cuban government. and in december as a consequence of some of the groundwork that had been laid both myself and president castro announced a significant change in policy and the relationship between our two
governments. >> now, the president went onto say that he does hope that the u.s. and cuba will open up respective embassies in their countries in washington and havana. and raul castro when he made remarks he said essentially the same thing. and so they are sort of on that course at this point to keep pursuing these renewed diplomatic ties. but, poppy, there's still a lot of sticking points that need to be worked out. the cubans want to know whether or not their island is going to be taken off the list of state sponsors of terrorism. we know, we've confirmed that the state department is recommending that. but the white house says they have to go through this interagency process to make that a final decision that the president will make. and in the meantime as you were talking about before we showed some of this historic meeting between the president and raul castro they both sat at various tables inside the summit of the americas here in panama city earlier today. which was fascinating in and of itself. you heard the president not only
saying he wants to chart this new course with the cuban people but he lectured these leftist latin-american leaders saying you can't blame the united states for all of your problems and that the u.s. is going to continue to speak out on human rights issues. and the need for democratic reforms. and then raul castro took the stage in really as you said went into this litany of grievances that the cuban government has with the united states. but then he made that remarkable statement that he admires president obama, he thinks he's an honest man and that he's personally read some of president obama's autobiographies. so although there has been this cold war that's been in place between the u.s. and cuba for many, many years, i have to tell you just from observing the body language down here this is sort of a warm relationship that is emerging between president obama and raul castro. it's sort of extraordinary to watch. >> extraordinary. a warm relationship. to you, shasta darlington being there also this brings up the question of the cuban people. and to their reaction over the past four months to the thawing
of relations, the work towards normalizing relations between the united states and cuba despite these differences that president obama points out will remain. what do we know about what the cuban people are saying and how they're reacting to this? >> reporter: well it's interesting, poppy, even before this summit started earlier this week a poll was released by "the washington post" infusion. they were able to get some posters on the island to carry out this poll in cuba. and according to to this more than 90% of cubans want to see the normalization of relations. and also it showed that president obama is more than twice as popular as raul castro or fidel castro on the island. so this is a reflection of the cuban youth. cuba is a very young country right now. so there's a lot of excitement about this a lot of anticipation. but i also think it's interesting when we heard raul castro speaking today, as you mentioned he first just lit up going over the long history of
u.s. intervention in the region. he accused the united states of cropping up cruel dictators, he talked about guantanamo bay. and then he turned to president obama and apologized saying he didn't blame obama for this. this is part of a strategy. you have to remember this is a man who was in the trenches. barack obama says listen this is ancient history for me. i wasn't even born when some of this stuff happened. well raul castro was not only born he was a participant. he was one of the main protagonists in this. so he has to not distance himself too much from this more than 50 years of warring with the united states and yet somehow get closer to obama. so this is a bit of a game and a very delicate balancing act for him, poppy. >> absolutely. and it is history unfolding as we speak there in panama. thank you very much shasta and jim acosta to you as well. let's talk about this with our panel. let me bring them in. presidential historian at princeton university also the author of the fierce urgency of
now. buck sexton also with me cnn political commentator, former cia strategist and former cia counterterrorism official. let me begin with you, professor. tell us how significant this is historically speaking. we know the facts that this is the sort of highest ranking meeting between the u.s. official and cuban official since 1959. but give us more context. >> this is a breakthrough. i think this is a combination of many changes, the cold war ending a thawing of the tension over imperialism. even though you heard some of that in castro's discussion and most important a change in the politics of florida and other parts of the country where generational change is allowing american politicians to change course. so if this culminates with an end of the embargo, with the terrorism list shift taking place, i think it is significant in u.s. foreign policy. not just with cuba but for the entire region. >> phil, let's talk about whether or not we may hear the
president today in this press conference. we don't know. say that indeed they are going to remove cuba from this list of states that sponsor terrorism. we'll see if that's the case or not. if that happens, what would that mean for the united states? what would it mean for cuba? do you think that's a good idea to do that? >> look let's not be under any illusion here. the president can announce that they'll remove cuba from the list. this is not an intelligence process. it's portrayed as a process by which intelligence community agencies are reviewing the data. let me tell you what happens here. i've participated in these. six months ago there's no momentum to remove cuba from the list. an intelligence analyst looks at data and says hey, years ago the cubans were involved in supporting revolutionary groups therefore maybe we should leave them on the list. and nobody cares. today, the same analyst might look at that information and say, hey, the president's interested in this we haven't seen any current information. therefore if you want to remove them from the list that's fine. same data can lead to a different conclusion. we know what the story is here. the president wants to get them off the list they're going to get off the list.
>> so buck you also have some big sticking points and issues including people who have sought refuge in cuba. you've got charlie hill e other americans suspected or committed of murder, criminals, what do you do about that? >> well, the cuban regime has a long standing history. people mean support of these groups around the world in colombia and also provided safe haven for people who assassinated cops. this brings us to the problem that the regime hasn't changed one bit. the president is going down and essentially saying we want to make this big step forward, but the cuban government is not meeting them halfway. the cuban government hasn't changed at all and the timing is particularly suspect as well. when you look at venezuela because the drop of oil prices maduro was basically on his back the country had become a joke basically. the cubans have been trying to help the venezuelans with their oppression as they have done for decades now. what we see is president obama swooping in and essentially bailing out the castro regime at
this point in time. it seems like this is the worst imaginable time to be doing this considering without venezuelan oil money to help prop up the castro regime they were particularly vulnerable. so he swoops in wants to normalize relations with a country that still provides safe haven for cop killers, still is willing to support -- they haven't changed their policy. they're still willing to support revolutionary groups around the worltd. they don't have the cash right now to do it. we're not meeting them halfway, we're conceding once again. this is the u.s. giving them whatever they want within the president's purview because of course the embargo has to come from congress. and congress will not lift that any time soon. >> let's pull this up obama meets with castro but refuses to meet with netanyahu, why legitimize a cruel dictator of a repressive regime. does he have a point? >> i don't think they're saying the regime is great. and i don't think they're happy with the human rights record. but the other argument is the embargo has now been in place since the 1960s. in fact we haven't given them everything. and so proponents say this is a
failed policy. proponents of change. and i think that's the debate. and that's where president obama is now siding with a different initiative. i don't know what's going to happen in congress. i don't think it's clear cut congress will stick with the embargo. >> i just want to say they could have ended this embargo a very very long time ago if they had allowed open elections and the freedom we want for the cuban people. that was the point of it and now we're saying it wasn't worth trying. >> we got to get a break in here. of course the president will take questions in this press conference. a lot of these questions will certainly come up to the president. on the other side of the break we'll talk about this walter scott killed by a police officer one week ago today laid to rest. his funeral earlier today. we're going to talk about that also these statistics that have one reporter calling north charleston taser town usa. we'll discuss next.
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all right. to south carolina now where family and friends bid good-bye to walter scott, the man fatally shot in the back by a police officer one week ago. scott's flag-draped casket was carried out of a somerville church just a short time ago. police officers escorted the hearse to the cemetery. after the service south carolina representative talked about how walter scott struggled. >> the first time he was put in jail for failure to pay his child support, he was working on a $35,000 a year job. but he lost that job when he was incarcerated. and went over the deep end because he was not -- he said it was the best job he ever had. >> meanwhile, south carolina state law enforcement division met with the still-unidentified passenger that you see in that dash cam video. they met with him, they questioned him, they released him without charges. he still has not been
identified. the mood in north charleston today tense but peaceful. plenty of questions linger over what happened. how could this have led to this man's death? let's talk about it with michael daly special correspondent for the daily beast, retired new york city police detective and trent copeland criminal defense attorney and former police officer. gentlemen, thank you for all being here. michael, let me begin with you you wrote an article about it this week. you call north charleston taser town. >> actually i wrote three articles. there's an unbelievable number of tasers. kind of taser happy. and i thought, well maybe that's what was going on here. i took a more detailed look at the town and saw, first of all, they knocked homicides down from about 28 a year down to 5. it's ticked back up again. so you know there are a lot of people walking around north charleston now who would be dead that don't know they'd be dead. that's because the police saved
them. so then you start saying what could have happened here and you end upcoming down to this particular officer, i think. i mean in ferguson you could see a department that was kind of a mess. raising revenue with summons and all that. here north charleston you see a department that was really trying to knock down crime, save lives, most black lives, and you come down to this one guy. if you watch that dash cam, he does everything right. you know even they tell them explain why you're stopping sir, i'm stopping you because of the taillight. when he started running something else kicked in in him. and i think that maybe a police officer would have more insight into what possibly could have happened. but i think it's that one -- it's the workings of that one guy in those moments. i really think that's what this is. >> so harry, to you as a former police officer, when you look at everything that seemed to go in a very routine manner. >> right. >> and then he runs away. you know scott runs away the officer chases after him, heat
of the moment. but how can this result in this tragedy? >> that's the big question. was he one of those kind of guys that, you know was looking to be a hero maybe looking to be able to say he'd brag he was in a shootout and that he killed somebody. i don't know. i really can't -- you know for the life of me watching this video i'm as shocked as everybody else is. you know how can you in that moment not know as a police officer, and he'd been a police officer for six years, you're not supposed to shoot somebody unarmed in the back running away from you. >> running away. i said something on the air earlier and i want to clarify it with you. >> okay. >> you had said he should not have even chased scott when he ran. >> right. >> explain why that is. >> okay. it was a tactical error by that officer. when you're one officer in a vehicle, and you're pulling over two people in the vehicle, all right, and you see one of them run, you don't go after the guy running because you still got a
guy in the vehicle. now, what could have happened is if he chased him and this other guy was armed he could have came out behind the officer and killed the officer chasing the other guy. so what you've got to do as an officer is let that guy go because you got a guy right there in your hands, pull him out of the car, call for backup say i got a guy on the run with his description. >> trent, to you, as a former police officer and an attorney looking at this right, the charges brought against officer slager are murder charges. what's your take on how the defense is going to go after this in terms of their strategy? are they going to make the defense that this is manslaughter at most because it happened in a moment of passion, in the heat of the moment? and i wonder if maybe you think he's been overcharged here that murder's going to be a tough one to prove here? >> no look first of all, let me interrupt you really quickly, poppy. i'm not a former police officer. although i represented a number of police officers in police-involved shootings. >> my apologies.
>> what i think is the clear narrative for the defense and i've got to try to put my defense hat on here and this is going to be a pretty difficult one to do. i think what's going to happen is he'll have to say, his argument will be look i feared for my life. this guy grabbed my weapon in the part of the video we don't see this guy grabbed my weapon he reached for my baton, i feared for my life i had to try to tase him. that was part of the narrative we don't see in the video. that will be what the criminal lawyer who represents this officer says. he'll say, listen this was all one long movement. i reached to try to defend myself when he ran off i reached for my weapon and i fired a gun. it was a mistake. it was in the heat of passion. it was a moment of a mistake that i take back for the rest of my life. but it clearly is not murder in the first degree. that will be the defense. but the problem with that poppy, is look at how careful this officer was. look at his stance, look at his demeanor look at his composure. he didn't look like he'd just been in a struggle. he didn't look like he was in
the heat of passion. it looked as if he was firing at this man, firing at him as if it were target practice. so i think that's going to be a really difficult thing for the defense lawyer to try to prove in this instance. but i think it will have to be the narrative there. >> we have seen charges, murder charges brought against police officers in north charleston. we haven't seen a conviction. do you believe we see a conviction here a murder conviction here? >> look i think it's going to be really difficult. but i think the reality is the first thing you're going to see, poppy, is the defense lawyer's going to try to move this case out of south charleston. i think the problem with that is that they'll say, look this case is so infected this community that we can't possibly get a fair trial. that will be the first thing they try to do. the second thing is i think that they'll obviously argue behind the scenes. before this case even sees the light of day in a courtroom, for manslaughter a plea deal. i think that's what they're going to work towards. i think that will probably be what happens in this case before this case even ever goes to trial. >> all right. gentlemen, stick around. we're going to keep talking about this because the case of walter scott really far from the only case of excessive force
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krth sheriff deputies beat a man multiple times at the end of a three-hour horse chase. there is an investigation underway. and in new jersey a police dog mauled a suspect to death. police are investigating that. and in miami gardens, florida a mentally ill man is shot and killed by police. the family has launched a civil suit. my panel is back to talk about this. michael daly of the daily beast, trent copeland defense attorney who has represented police officers. let me begin with you, harry. >> yes. >> when we talk about this look it's not fair to give all police officers a bad name. these are the men and women out there on the streets protecting all of us. when you look though i wonder if you think use of force like this is becoming more common in police departments or we are seeing it more? >> i think we're probably seeing it more. because of the age of the video. it's more common or not, i don't know. i mean i don't think there's any statistics out there to be able to show us. it seems like every time we see it on the tv especially in the
last two days now we got this thing going on in san bernardino county police officers were in a three-hour chase. i got to tell you, you know you're in a chase that long you're putting your life in danger chasing that person you're going after that person and you get riled up. okay what looks to have happened is those police officers once they caught him weren't able to calm themselves down. >> with you defending them? >> no i'm not. >> they kicked and punched him more than 30 times. >> no i'm saying what you're going through as a police officer. you've got to be able to once you take that man down listen he laid down he complied perfectly the way he was supposed to do. the officers got on top of him. they weren't able to gain their composure. and that's when they started hitting him. and these guys are probably going to wind up going to jail. i'm not condoning their actions at all. they were bad. they should not have been. they should have been smart enough to know hearing a helicopter above them for christ sakes. >> i think they heard the helicopter but they didn't hear the second helicopter.
they didn't look up. notice the police helicopter is lower. i think they think they're in that last realm where there's no civilian with a video camera. >> right. >> i think that's why they're doing it. and if you even see there's a guy at the end where seems to be all over he walks up and kind of all right, i'll get a couple kicks in too. that is life before video. >> and it surprises me that so many officers one guy didn't at least say knock it off. >> yeah we have to stop this. >> you see the two guys standing there all they would have had to do is say that's enough or whatever. >> right. trent, to you when you look at this retired l.a. county sheriff's commander told "los angeles times" that the officers actions in this case we are showing video of san bernardino california was "like a feeding frenzy." it was like blood in the water with sharks. what is their defense going to look like in this? >> equally difficult, poppy. i mean look the video shows us everything we need to see. just like charlie beck said about the south carolina shooting. look when you're wrong, you're wrong.
their officer said -- head of their police department said that. charlie beck, the head of lapd said listen this is wrong. i don't think, poppy, that they're going to be instances when we find when there's video that exists that the narrative is going to change. i think the officers will say, listen you didn't see all of it. their officers will say as part of their defense, you only saw a portion of it. you didn't see what happened before you didn't see what happened afternoon. i think for these officers in san bernardino because we have so much video and it's so extensive and we see that these officers were sort of pouncing on this guy and beating him as the head of their police agency said as if it was a feeding frenzy. i think it's going to be difficult for these guys to have a defense of any kind. >> it seems to me and we bring this up a lot in cases like this it just seems like it would be common sense to have body cameras mandatory for all police departments. i know not everyone wants it. i know that it is incredibly expensive. i know it's up to the officer to turn it on or off. but as a former nypd officer, do
you agree that that is -- >> 100% i love them. >> you love it. >> i think it's great because it will put an end to a lot of questions when people you know have interactions with the police officers. i think it will calm some police officers down also. but the issue i have is when do you turn it off and when do you turn it on? is it on constantly when i'm talking to my partner riding around? it shouldn't be because i should be able to have a private conversation with my partner. >> michael, what do you do about that? if you pull someone over you're not necessarily going to remember to turn it on. >> it's tough. they have a case in new orleans now where a policewoman turned her camera off, went and shot a guy in the head and then turned her camera on. if you were a good police officer, i would go out and buy one myself. i'd put one on my uniform now. let's say you've gotten a shooting and you really did fear for your life and you really were justified but nobody saw it. who's going to believe you now? >> before i let you go trent, any privacy issues that come up
here? >> there are privacy issues, but with anything poppy there's a balancing act. i don't know why we're discussing this. the white house task force a couple years ago did a study and showed there are 87% fewer incidents of police brutality when officers are wearing body cameras. 60% less complaints by citizens when officers are wearing body cameras. this is an academic issue that should have long been put under the rug and we should now be discussing the use of these cameras. it shouldn't be whether they exist, it should be why aren't we using them. >> they haven't been mandated and they're not used in most police departments. we'll see if things change. appreciate it. coming up in just ten days consider these numbers. law enforcement across this country have arrested eight americans charging them with conspireing to join isis or worse. the details next. people ship all kinds of things. but what if that thing is a few hundred thousand doses of flu vaccine. that need to be kept at 41 degrees. while being shipped to a country where
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in the past ten days alone, eight people have been locked up right here in the united states charged with trying to support isis. most frightening are indications that some were plotting attacks right here on u.s. soil. this man, joshua left the u.s. last year to join isis. he was captured in turkey and now facing charges in the state of illinois.
in pennsylvania a 30-year-old woman is charged with trying to provide resources to isis. officials say she wanted to martyr herself. in virginia a teenager just 17 years old charged with helping a man get to syria to join isis. and right here in new york a 26-year-old man is charged with raising money for isis. three of his friends were arrested last month. two women also in new york under lock and key charged with plotting to detonate a bomb somewhere in the united states. and in kansas john t. booker seen on the right charged with plotting to detonate a bomb at ft. riley army base. the man on the left alexander blare, allegedly knew of the plot and did nothing to stop it. joining me to talk about this is former cia counterterrorism official phil mudd. wow. in the past ten days eight people in different states. and we know that secretary of homeland security jeh johnson has said that he's very concerned about the lone wolf threat. how do you combat this effectively? >> i don't think you can. by the way, i wouldn't consider most of these folks lone wolves.
a lone wolf is somebody in my world who doesn't communicate or doesn't travel or doesn't try to speak with isis. as soon as an individual starts to communicate or travel and becomes part of a broader network as an intelligence professional that's a vulnerability. that's something i can look at and see if i can exploit. what we're seeing here is really interesting though from my perspective. in the early post-9/11 years we saw virtually none of this. what you would have is al qaeda guys in places like pakistan trying to recruit operatives either to conduct attacks out there or to train them in pakistan to come back here. right now we're seeing typically young people who never even travel out there, which makes it harder for us to find a vulnerability and who have little connectivity with those kinds of networks we can look at with intelligence resources. in some ways this is a much tougher intelligence problem because there are so many of these people and they're dis disburse disbursed. >> these suspects are under the age of 40 and we know the white house has said and critics have
shot them down but said this is in part dealing with a feeling of disenfranchisement a lack of opportunity especially for youth in this country. what does that tell you? >> there's some of that going on. for example in the somali community, terrorist center for al shabaab, the location in minneapolis not doing well economically. a lot i witnessed were single-mom homes. that's not a validation for somebody who wants to commit an act of murder. what i am saying is people who want to be part of something bigger think of this psychologically, not just terrorism, it might be a gang. think of this as people who want to join something that gives them validation in their lives because they're not getting it in their community or at home. i saw quite a bit of that. again, not a justification for an act of violence but helps you understand their mindset. >> yeah but you have and i've reported with my team extensively on what's happening in minnesota and the somali community there, right? you've got a lot of people. look law enforcement has stepped things up there. the community itself is trying
to do everything it can to make sure that these kids don't fall into the isis trap. when you look at the pilot program launched by the white house in these states minnesota among them recently do you think something like that is going to be effective? these pilot programs to really try to get to the root of this disenfranchisement? or is it frankly hiring a ton more people to scour through social media to find warning signs. >> you're asking a government guy about hiring a ton more people. let me give you a serious answer. i think it can be effective, but there are so many people getting involved in this pipeline. the numbers we're looking at are foreign to a counterterrorism professional. we never saw hundreds of people when i was at the bureau at the fbi and at the cia. the numbers are just astounding. however, what i saw in a lot of these cases, particularly at the younger end when you're getting 15 16 19 20 years old is people who have an emotional interest in isis but no real ideological understanding of what they're getting involved in. these people like this kid you
mentioned booker who was just arrested these people think that they're terrorists. they're not really terrorists. they're people who think that they are joining something that will give them a better life. my point is halfway houses for those kids that give them exposure from real religious experts who can explain why what they're doing is inappropriate, i think there's a decent solution there between letting them go and putting them in a federal prison. and that is putting them in a halfway house. >> we know they're actually piloting that one program in minneapolis right now. i appreciate it. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> we're standing by as we expect president obama to speak in panama. at any moment he'll take questions from reporters after his historic meeting today with the president of cuba raul castro. we'll bring that as soon as it happens.
we're awaiting a news conference from president obama as he closes historic talks. he will tell us what he and president raul castro discussed during that one-on-one meeting that just took place a short time ago there. it's the first time leaders of the u.s. and cuba have sat down for any substantiative talks since 1959. president obama has indicated plans to possibly remove cuba from america's list of countries that support terrorism. he could make that announcement today in this press conference before he leaves panama this
evening. today's historic moment between the president and cuban leader raul castro is just one sign of things to come. really this is a new era. our richard quest traveled to havana to see how many things may change. >> reporter: tobacco plants are the finest in the world. and these are the plants used to make cuba's famous cigars. and now the farmers here face an interesting challenge. with a potential new market in the u.s. how do they balance quantity over quality? this family farm is famous across cuba. everybody agrees here they're growing the best tobacco in the land. >> i'm very happy this year. the quality this year is very
very good. >> reporter: what makes a good cigar? >> there's the land the weather, the variety of the tobacco and also the experience of the farmer. >> reporter: they've been doing this for 170 years. hand picking the leaves lovingly laying them out to dry. it's a true passion. >> i like to use like this. just a little bit. only a little bit. yeah. >> reporter: too much? >> yeah. taste like gum. nice flavor. then after that i start to put fire. that's what i like. so we grow tobacco here to roll around 4 million or 5 million
cigars a year i need 2 million leaves. >> 2 million leaves is not enough for existing clients and to satisfy the prospective new american market. demand outstripping supply something has to go up production or the price. >> i can't produce more. >> you can't? >> no. no. because the land is not so big. i want to produce the same but with better quality. >> reporter: production increased in the 1990s. and quality fell. it's a mistake the industry doesn't want to repeat. >> i'm not worrying about the farmers. the big problem is the rollers. they work very fast. they have to take care of a lot. remember more important is quality. price is not important because when people want to buy the best product in the world, they pay. >> reporter: the issue of quality is family pride. >> 1845.
today it's very very very special day for me because it's the birthday 96 of my grandfather. >> reporter: considered the godfather of cuban tobacco, he died five years ago. but alejandro's memory lives on in the room the family call the chapel. a victrola. >> yes. >> reporter: does it work? >> of course man. >> reporter: from green leaves to golden tobacco, now they make the two-hour journey to central havana. this must be the most beautiful factory ever built. street number 2121. >> we hope the embargo would be
he joint government private operation. that rolls and sells all of cuba's cigars. >> we've been waiting for more than 50 years when the blockade will be lifted and then we are ready. believe me we are ready. >> he sees the opportunities and the way to take advantage very differently than the rabinas. >> we have the capacity to produce more cigars in cuba to produce more tobacco leaf. we don't want to raise prices. >> higher production greater markets. the risk is falling into bad habits and losing the love with which these are rolled. >> it's a risk but our main objective is to keep quality. >> this is an example here of what they have to be careful of. there's a hole in the tobacco leaf. it's a delicate balance, one that everyone knows they've got to get right.
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