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we'll occasionally open a pool and close it. >> there has to be commitment. >> we have to go all in if we want to stop the story of freddie gray. >> who needs to go all in? final question. where does that money come from? >> federal government has to go all in. >> federal government city government state government. and they have to go in beyond the crises. >> that's right. >> when this situation is over -- >> when we pack up and leave, it needs to happen. >> you still have to have the commitment. they've got to show this younger generation that we do love you, that we are real, that we're concerned about you. and we're going to help you to have real goals and objectives because we're going to nurture you. >> and we're going to invest. we're going to invest in your infrastructure and not cut the knees out from you by the time you're 2 that says you're on this pathway to prison or to the corner. instead, you're on the pathway to school and opportunity. the same opportunities that we have got. >> ruthann, a pleasure. reverend i wish i was here
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sunday. thank you so much, sir. i really appreciate it. such an important conversation here. let's go hour two. you're watching cnn's special live coverage here on this thursday. i'm brooke baldwin live in baltimore in front of city hall. this is a city that is hoping to witness app third night of peace, of calm as a march is expected to start in less than an hour from the neighborhood we were just referencing. marilyn moseby will decide if any of the six officers suspended in this case or anyone else for that matter should be charged in this 25-year-old man's death. you know the story. freddie gray died after he was
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arrested in santown in west baltimore on april 12th. his spine severed. in announcing this handover this official hand over of this report baltimore police leaders also revealed this huge piece of information. the prisoner transport van that was taking freddie gray back to the police station and ultimately to paramedics had actually made a stop investigators did not initially know about. and that means the van stopped a total of four times before ending up at that police station. it was there that the ambulance was finally called for freddie gray. then he was take tonight city's shock trauma center. minutes ago, baltimore police responded to the late disclosure of this stop and if it was linked to a cover-up. listen to the captain. >> the commissioner dropped a bombshell when he said there was a second unscheduled stop of the van, of the police van. was he suggesting are you all
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telling us that the arresting officers covered up or lied about stopping that police van after freddie gray was inside the vehicle? >> so what i will tell you is that we've stated from the beginning when we have information that we're able to share, we will. as the commissioner said today, it would be inappropriate for us to further comment on the status of the investigation. it is now in the hands of the state's attorney. >> but you left us hanging. i don't know -- do you mean it was just unannounced, or was it covered up? >> again, as i just said we have released information as we're able to do so. >> all right. let's go first to athena jones live at the location of this newly revealed stop in which this van paused for whatever reason. athena jones, tell me where's the camera how did police find out? >> i'll tell you all of that brooke. the police say they found out as a result of their thorough
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comprehensive, and ongoing review of all of the public and private cameras in the area. we're talking right now about a private camera here at this convenience store. we're not far from where freddie gray was first picked up. this is a korean owned store. our producer spoke with owner. he told her that police came by some time last week likely earlier in the week. he doesn't really remember because he was busy when they stopped by. they asked to review his footage. he showed them how to look at the footage on his computer and didn't think much of it. a few hours later, they sent other folks over to make a copy of that video from his computer on a usb. we're talking about this camera here. you can see house there's two surveillance cameras. you'll also notice that they have been cut. you can see here the wires that have been cut. this is significant, brooke. this store was looted on monday night. let me back up and show you where a group of neighborhood
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kids got in. they tore out an air-conditioning unit we're told from someone who was a witness, climbed through and looted the store. they stole the owner's laptop. that laptop is what contained all of the surveillance footage. so had the police not come several days before the looting began, it could have been lost to them. so very interesting and also a big question about what other footage is out there. brooke? >> athena jones, thank you so much for showing us where that stop would have taken place just a couple weeks ago. the state's attorney here in baltimore issued a statement saying that her officer will conduct an independent investigation of gray's death. they say, quote, while we have and will continue to leverage the information received by the department we are not relying solely on their findings but rather the facts we have gathered and verified. we ask for the public to remain peaceful and patient and trust the process of justice system. among the pieces of evidence that the state's attorney may be
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considering is this explosive report from today's "washington post." this other man, this other prisoner or suspect who was transported in the same police van as gray said quote, gray was banging against the walls, and he believed gray, quote, was intentionally trying to injure himself. now, this is coming from a police document "the post" obtained. with me now, our justice correspondent evan perez and cnn legal analyst sunny hostin. first, let's begin with this previously undisclosed police van stop. we have no idea what that camera captured. but it could be key, yes? >> right. i think it is key. we know what happened at the other stops. the police have disclosed what they know happened at the other stops. this one, it's clear they don't have enough information. the camera the surveillance camera clearly does not provide a conclusive answer to it. now the question is how they're going to solve this mystery
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here. it's amazing that at this stage we're adding mysteries. we're adding new questions rather than solving them and answering them. >> you want to have transparency sunny hostin and this just doesn't look good. >> it doesn't, especially because we're now learning at least from what athena is saying that they just got this information last week. but we learned very early, i think, in the investigation that five out of the six police officers had given statements. one would think those police officers would have indicated how many times the van had stopped. so the suggestion i think, or at least the specter is out there that someone wasn't being honest about what happened that day. that's going to be very troubling to any prosecutor trying to put this case together. >> the city prosecutor also known as the state attorney here in maryland is marilyn moseby. she's 35 years of age. she is one of several women in this city who is about to get
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incredibly familiar with this case. i want to play some sound from another woman here the mayor, stephanie rawlings-blake. this is what she said an a luncheon last hour. >> we'll get justice for freddie gray. believe you me we'll get justice. we're going to do it because we're going to work together. because if with the nation watch three black women at three different levels can't get justice and healing for this community, you tell me where we're going to get it in our country. >> one of those women, as i mentioned, the state's attorney marilyn moseby. so they got this today. they got it day ahead of the deadline. how does she stay objective? how does she take what the baltimore city police investigated about baltimore city police take it ingest it and figure out whether she needs to slap charges on these guys? >> prosecutors do it often. they certainly get investigations from police officers about police officers. we have those type of units. all of our prosecutor's offices
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in the country. you look at it and evaluate it and come to a decision. prosecutors do it very often. i think the difference is going to be certainly that it is sort of under the nation's guise that she has to make this very difficult decision. but it's not an unusual thing to do. i will say this. i am not in favor of police investigating their own. i think what is a more appropriate way of handling these kinds of investigations that we have been seeing all around our country is to have an independent investigative team coming in. to be sure we know there are several investigative teams working on this case. we have two federal investigations i think, also ongoing. evan can speak more to that. but there is always that question. how can she be objective when she is now investigating, her office is investigating people that they work with day in and day out. i think as a country we need to move past that model and perhaps
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have independent investigators. >> ultimately it's up to her whether she's be charging. meantime we'll watch and wait. i was in some of these neighborhoods today. some people are saying they wanted more today, tomorrow. so there's this march from santown here to city hall in the next hour. so i want to talk to those people to see how they're responding to this news that it's been handed over today. finally to you. you've been talking a lot about this "washington post" report. this source. we knew as much as i've read about this van and freddie gray we know he wasn't strapped in. we know he was stopped at one point and had leg shackles put on. we know the van stopped to grab other people off the streets. but this is new. forgive me. i'm running two different points together. the undisclosed stop but also the facts from "the washington post." >> the interesting thing about this report about this -- this actually comes from a police document that's been filed under seal. that was provided to "the post"
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apparently by someone who had concern for the prisoner. the prisoner is still in jail. he's provided these statements. he's making a conclusion about what the intent of freddie gray was. >> there's a metal partition in the middle of these vans. >> right. he can hear him. >> this would be a supposition. >> that's correct. he's making a supposition. i don't think that's something anybody can really do. it's kind of interesting. i don't think it really takes us any more beyond where we are as far as figuring this out. i'll tell you what. the interviews that this friend of one of the officers gave to cnn -- >> let me stop you there. we have a piece of it. roll it. >> he believes that whatever happened to mr. gray happened before he was transported. >> did he hear screaming? was he in the back say -- he was saying he was in the back going crazy maybe. >> he was irate. he was cursing. he was yelling. and he was kicking.
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that's what was heard. >> what happened first? was he secured first? >> he was placed into the wagon with cuffs. he wasn't shackled. he was shackled later en route to where they were going because he was irate. they had to stop. at that point, they shackled him. but the officers that shackled him and the officers that placed him in the wagon did not seat belt him. >> he was never seat belted. >> no. it's an unwritten, unspoken rule that when someone is irate in the paddy wagon, you don't reach over someone that's irate because they still have a mouth. they don't have a muzzle. so they can bite you and spit in your face. >> so again, this is the relative of one of these currently suspended police officers. you were about to make a point. >> the point here is that now we have basically the officers pointing fingers at each other. previously we've heard from the police union, i believe, from
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their lawyer that they believe whatever happened happened on the van. this person is saying whatever injury happened happened before freddie gray got on the van. it's going to be left to the state attorney's office to figure out which one is telling the truth. >> evan perez, sunny hostin thank you both so much. coming up next here live from baltimore, we have all seen the video showing this mother. she's furious with her son for being part of these protests from the other night. both of them spoke to cnn. they talked to anderson cooper. you'll hear that. and we'll talk with a mother who lost a son to violence in baltimore. her reaction to the young people in the city and what parents need to be doing. and the situation here is sparking protests elsewhere in this nation including ferguson missouri. we'll tell you what one business owner there said after his door was broken into for the fourth time. stay with me. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn's special live coverage.
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whether she wanted to be baltimore mom toya graham is in the spotlight. she caught her son taking part in this whole melee. many turn in turn a local news camera caught her openly disciplining her son. graham and her son talked to cnn about what was going through their minds in that incredibly emotional moment. >> you saw michael with the rock in his hand. you say you just lost it. >> i did. you know, once he threw that rock down i was like you wasn't brought up like this. >> did you worry about embarrassing him? >> not at all.
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he was actually embarrassing himself by wearing that mask and that hoodie and doing what he was doing. at some point, i told him to take the mask off because why are you hiding behind a mask? if you want to be bold enough to do this then show your face. >> this is something you really believe in. >> yeah why hide your face? >> so did he go home then? >> oh yeah. he went home with me. >> i had no doubt about that. >> yes, yes. he went home with me. >> i would have gone home with you in a second. so what did you think when you heard that voice? >> i was like, i know that's my mama. i know that's my mama. ain't nobody else talk like that but my mother. >> and then what happened? >> it was just world war irksii from there. >> what did you think? were you embarrassed? >> yeah i was embarrassed a little bit until she just started talking to me when we
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got home. tell megabaseing me basically she did it because she cared about me. it wasn't nothing to embarrass me. she just cared. >> she was worried about you. >> she didn't want me getting in trouble by no law. she didn't want to be another freddie gray or anybody else that got killed by the police. >> do you regret wanting to throw rocks? can you explain it? >> at first i was just like i don't care. i don't care about the law, police period. but my mama talked to me about it. she was just like what did they do to you? did they ever hurt you? i'm like, no, they didn't hurt me but some of my friends are not here because of what they did. >> let me bring in kimberly armstrong. she's a mom and founder of united parents of incarcerated children and youth. her programs fight injustice by empowering young people and families through education and
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assistance. it's a pleasure. >> thank you. >> so first, i want to get on to what you do in these communities. but reacting off of anderson's interview with this mother and her son, you saw that whole thing and you're like she's a mom. >> exactly. exactly. you know she's a parent. as a parent especially as a mother our job is to nurture and to protect our children. so she did what she had to do in order to get her son out of that situation so he didn't get himself in trouble or harmed in some kind of way. i totally agree with, you know -- not so much her impulsive reaction but what else was she supposed to do? >> she said she cared. what do you -- you talk to young people. >> yes. >> what's your message to them? >> my message is everything you do, there is a consequence. when you go out and misbehave and harm other people you're going to have a consequence. when you go out into the community and give back to the
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community, the community will give back to you. whatever you put out into the universe universe you will get back. for our young people to understand, as well as the message that we send them you have to be a -- if you want positive influences to come to you, you have to put it out there. you can't do what everybody else is doing. if your mother and your parents are investing in you and showing you the right way to live listen to them. they know what they're talking about. wrp we were children. >> listening to parents is something we still work on when we're 35 years of age sometimes. you have a daughter. she's phenomenal honor roll headed to college. you have a son who i'm sure is lovely. and you lost a son. you say your daughter in terms of dealing with police what has your daughter shared with you when she sees police and your son? >> well it's really heartbreaking because we do have these kind of conversations and dialogues. she really doesn't trust the police. she sees how the police have
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handled situations with me. >> give me an example. >> example. for instance when my sons were younger, i had an instance where the police came into my home. they told me to shut the "f" up sit the "f" down. i keep asking why were they here. they never gave me an answer. only because i knew my rights i was a little more empowered. she was a lot younger then. also the interaction she has seen with her brother as well as my nephews. so she has a sense like the police are they really here to protect us or to really instigate? >> what do you tell her? final question how do you talk to your kids about dealing with the police? >> well i tell them first, listen. if they tell you to stop stop. if you feel like you're not being -- there are ways to deal with the police. if you feel like you're being injust they have the internal affairs.
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at that moment if you have any kind of interaction with the police it's to listen to them. just stop and listen. you don't want to create a situation where they can use the terminology i felt threatened so therefore i had to use deadly force. you don't want to give them that option or opportunity. >> listen. spoken like a wise mom. thank you, kimberly armstrong. i appreciate you very much. coming up next here on cnn, the outrage here in baltimore has sparked protests not just in this city but all around the country, including ferguson missouri. in fact one man is cleaning up a store today after it was looted for the fourth time. we'll share his story with you next. plus i walked the streets this morning in west baltimore in the neighborhood where freddie gray lived. it's actually known as one of the most dangerous places in this entire state. my conversation with this phenomenal young woman, next.
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we're young, we're strong we're marching all night long. we're young, we're strong we're marching all night long. >> that is just one of the rallying cries heard last night not just here in baltimore but in cities throughout the united states. thousands of people turned out in the streets. you had seattle, new york minneapolis, washington, d.c. and really the birthplace if you want to call it that of this entire movement ferguson missouri. tensions there have been high of course ever since august when darren wilson this white police officer, shot and killed this unarmed black teenager michael brown. so let's go there to ferguson. you saw her throughout our
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coverage. she's back. people gathering there, certainly bringing back some flashbacks of what happened last summer and into the fall. tell me what people are telling you. >> yeah some of the business owners and residents talked about how when they saw what was going on in baltimore, it really did bring them back. what we're seeing now, there were two streets really that were batter and burned here in ferguson. this is one of them. we're right down the street from the police department. kathy's kitchen was broken into. the next building broken into. kathy's kitchen up and running. they're even opening a new business. this one didn't make it. the mexican restaurant still has remnants from that day in november. i want you to see what was happening where there was looting last night. sunny is frustrated. forced to finish the job looters started when they bashed in half of his store's front door.
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this is ferguson trying to rebuild. the set backs keep coming. >> this is the fourth time in a year and a half that i've had a break-in. this is the mildest one yet. >> the mildest one? >> the mildest one yet. the last one that was in november the end of november whole store, the whole front was busted. all of the showcases were destroyed completely. >> this is what he's referring to. november 24th when the street he's on looked like this. it was the day a grand jury decided not to indict ferguson police officer darren wilson in the killing of unarmed teenager michael brown after the two got into a scuffle. despite the hardships, though dayan's determined to stay right in the heart of the protest zone. this is why. guys like steve smith. >> i'm just trying to help him get back trying to help him build a board back. just so he can sleep tonight. so we both can sleep tonight.
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>> smith and dayan formed a friendship in ferguson years ago. it began with dayan offering smith a couple days of work at his mobile and bill payment store. now on nights like this smith jumps to help catching a ride in the middle of the night to make sure dayan and his business are secure. both are well aware of the frustration continuing to simmer and sometimes boil over in ferguson. >> the police and i would say the black community, they don't get along at all. it's no secret you know what i'm saying. but it don't give them the right to do all this. i understand the movement. i understand why they are here. but to just destroy buildings and get the point across that's too far. it's too far. >> though some boards remain there are several businesses that are rebuilding after november's mayhem. many are going to online sites like go fund me to help out. so far, more than $500,000 has
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been collected. for others the signs of rebuilding are absent unable to sustain the financial beating after their shops experienced a physical one. and a lot of these businesses are tells us 60% of their business was down. now it's somewhere around 30%. things are starting to come back. it is not by any means easy but i'm standing in front of a brand new business here. the same folks that own kathy's kitchen have now opened up j & c barbecue and blues. it's doing quite well. they're hoping more businesses will look at this community because a lot of folks here are saying, look we're going to work this out, and we need other people to believe in us and to invest in us. brooke? >> rebuilding and a little hope. we wish them the very best. sarah, thank you so much in. erg son for us. coming up next i walked this morning through freddie gray's neighborhood. i spoke with this young woman who has been clean now for a year. she got very real with me and
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talked about what life is like in this part of west baltimore and how her friends interact with police. don't miss this.
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you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. i think it is so important to hear from these young voices in these neighborhoods where we're covering here in the city. i want to put the spotlight back on this one particular neighborhood here in baltimore. it's known as santown. this is where freddie gray called home. it's also home to more people held in state prisons than any other area in the state of maryland. i met this phenomenal woman. she's 24-year-old kiarra. she's been clean for a year she told me. she's turned her life around after growing up with what she referred to as limited options. and really no parents around. she knows these streets almost
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better than anyone. what do you think will happen in these communities? >> i'm hoping what will happen in these communities is that people will sign a petition, people will initiate petitions, people will do the right thing and fight rightfully. i hope we instill some intelligence into our youth about the importance is of where we are and where we're from and how to rightfully fight, how to effectively fight for our rights where we're from. >> what what i'm hearing around here if people don't see change or see charges, which is not likely i'm hearing people will -- we thought monday was bad. are you hearing any of that? >> no. >> good. good. so do you think by having rec
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centers, improving communities, how will that though help the relationship between community members and police? >> okay. >> explain this to me. >> that will in no way shape or form help anything between community leaders and police because we are policed by individuals who have no relation to our background period. we are policed by people who don't want to have any relation to our background don't want to understand. i feel like why aren't more people from our community policing our community? >> do you know the answer to that? >> i don't. i don't. but i believe that who are encouraging these children to still become police officers when they graduate from school?
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>> so you need to have more police officers who come from this community, who understand this community, who are invested in this community, number one. >> absolutely. >> looking ahead, eventually we're all going to pack up and leave. you're not going to have cnn sitting here. >> right. >> so then what? >> so then that's when i call on additional leaders. i've been a community leader since i've been here. like i said i implemented the youth program. i just want us to invest more into our children invest more into the future generation. if programs like penn north didn't exist, how would -- i would not have recovered myself to even come back to help someone else. so it's amazing how much people
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say they want done but it's even more amazing how little they did. so hopefully some people will start showing some action stop talking. i have a lot of friends who are very much leaders, very much capable of being everything that they want to be. don't have the right support system don't have the right people pushing them. sometimes they've been pushed so far back that it's hard to crawl out. a year ago today i couldn't say that i was a future student or i work for a multimillion dollar company as a nursing assistant. i couldn't tell you all that. i can tell you i'm just trying to live today. my days is better today. i'm grateful for that. >> why would someone want to
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start selling drugs? >> this is just a scenario not anyone specific. if i am left in the house by my parents, i have -- i'm 14 years old. i can't get a legal job. no one wants to give me change at a gas station because i'm a bum. i have one other sibling to take care of. how do i take care of them? my mom's gone dad's incarcerated or he's not active. what do i do? i go and ask for help but help will send me to foster care. >> and you don't want to leave your home. >> because that's my safe haven. >> right. >> even though it's not that safe. >> i'm so grateful for you talking to me today. i'm so impressed with how you have turned your life around.
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i think this community needs more of you. >> absolutely. and there are. but of course the media doesn't focus on the more of me. they focus on -- >> we're sitting here today for that reason. >> absolutely. and i salute you guys for that because it's a shame the national news has to pick up what's going on good in the community, but we can turn on our local news station and it'll go from oh we're dancing and protesting and it's peaceful and then focus solely on the riot. that's not all that happened this week. but that's a lot of what we're hearing about. >> we're here to focus on you and what's happening in this community. thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you. >> oh she was so wonderful. just quickly, when we were talking about whether charges will be filed, i was just simply
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referencing, you know, the police investigation getting handed over to the state's attorney's office. when you talk to some of these people in these neighborhoods, they think charges would happen today or tomorrow. that's not the case. the state's attorney is going to take a look at this. she's the one ultimately to decide if there will be criminal charges brought against any of these police officers. and just if i may, kiarra was phenomenal. i want to give credit to this penn north recovery center where she now lives. it's really helping some of these young people in this community. it's not quite a year already. already its staff has helped more than 150 people turn their lives around. if you want more information, you want to help these great people it's penn-north.com. coming up next former baltimore ravens superstar ray lewis is in the city today. he is out and about speaking with young people and speaking with my colleague ryan young. his message to the city of baltimore next.
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no more violence. this is now the rallying cry from several former and current baltimore ravens football players, taken to social media to spread their messages here in the wake of protests and monday night's riots. many including ravens former linebacker ray lewis, and now he's taking his message into the communities and schools. ryan young was at one of the schools this morning and talked to ray lewis. what was his message? >> reporter: powerful moment. didn't expect do see all that we witnessed this morning. took the stage, said a few words. 25 minutes later all the high schoolers on the edge of their seat listening to his message trying to bring the kids into what he wanted them to understand. each has a chance to have a future and it starts with a
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personal decision. it was a powerful message, he had almost a standing ovation for. >> stop talking about old baltimore, old baltimore. this is a rural problem. detroit, number one crime rate in the world. two years ss black to black. young black kids killing each other like a video game. we got to teach them stop killing each other [ bleep ]. >> reporter: a lot of the kids wanted to ask questions and would they be back to help the community. ray lewis promised he'd be back throughout and they'd work with the high school kids and talking to business owners in the community trying to help out. look up here at the images here a store owner who put this mural up shelter residence. a powerful history of the neighborhood and everything done. we talked about what he thinks could help turn this area around. >> when i was 13 i had a job. we had job opportunities.
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in this community, where are the job opportunities? therapy not here. the only job opportunity they have is drug dealers that say, hey, run this over here for me. take this. stand here. do this. and it's all about economics. but how do we expose them to something different? so that they have a different outlook. but -- i do believe if you change the environment, you change the people. you change the environment, you change the people and we need to change this environment. >> the whole focus, like i said of the bakery is to educate our community on the history and legacy and i got this crazy thing in my mind that if they know the history and the legacy they will take pride in the community, take care of it, and certainly it will get folks to come and invest in it and the rebuilding of the community. >> reporter: so athletes and
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investors all talking about the same thing, brooke. the idea of empowering people through jobs and opportunity making sure that the young people even before they graduate high school realize they have a chance to make a mark in society. brooke? >> it's the empowering knowing you have options. investing in these communities. what we keep hearing in baltimore. ryan young, phenomenal reporting. thank you so much to you. again, we're live here in baltimore. and cnn will be live here throughout the evening, following every single development. anticipating a protest heading from one of these communities here to city hall watching for that. state rye here stay right here. this is cnn. hey, what's up? i'm ted. rudy and i have a lot of daily rituals. namaste. stay. taking care of our teeth is one of them. when i brush my teeth, he gets a milk-bone
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hi there. i'm brianna keilar. an update on quake ravaged nepal. three americans rescued from a remote village trapped in a cave-type area. this as we get new pictures of incredible rescues. a woman 24 years old rescued after five days in the rubble. for nearly a week this
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15-year-old trapped underneath a huge slab of cement. today after hours of digging and against all odds, he was pulled out alive. for the last few days cnn's arwa damon has been trekking towards the epicenter and what they're finding along the way can only be described as utter devastation. >> reporter: this is one of the villages up the mountains. we're about still a six-hour hike away from the epicenter of the earthquake. the actual epicenter of it but throughout this entire region the villages and towns up and down these sloping mountains have all been completely devastated. there's a tent back there, and in it is a 13-year-old girl with a severe lower back injury. her back is swollen, she has a lot of pain, can't move. also the mother of an 11 day-old baby with a head injury as well. parts of nepal that have yet to see any sort of assistance whatsoever. there's a lot of rubble covering everything and it's really hard
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to fully describe the magnitude of what it is that we've seen because every single village that you go to is almost entirely destroyed. we hiked 4.5 hours up this mountain to be able to get here and we just crossed village after village after village where there was similar devastation. we met a father whose wife was killed when a landslide swept her away. that's another thing that people out here are having to deal with. there were a lot of deaths by the landslides caused by the earthquake and also because of the boulders and rocks that ended up falling down during the earth wake. there are a lot of children who were crushed inside these various homes, reaching these parts of in a paul. it's very difficult, but it is doable. the problem also is not just getting aid to these areas but the even farther out areas because the epicenter of the
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earthquake we were told that the route to actually reach it which goes down in between these two mountains is about a six-hour walk. >> and arwa will continue the trek to the epicenter. thanks tore or wa for that report. "the lead" with jake tapper live in baltimore starts right now. >> someone want to give me a time? welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper coming to you live from baltimore, maryland. we have breaking news in our national lead today. new protests that's to start any minute and a bombshell report in local news revealing new details about how freddie gray may have died. according to wjla-tv, the preliminary autopsy shows that freddie gray's neck was broken in the police van when his head slammed into the back of that vehicle. this is new information emerging just in