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i'm erin burnett. "outfront" we begin with breaking news. the amtrak train that derailed near philadelphia was speeding big-time. traveling 106 miles an hour at the time of the crash. more than twice the 50-mile-an-hour speed limit. we are also just learning at this moment the engineer's name from three amtrak employees. here's what we can tell you. his name is brandon bostian. drew griffin is going to have much more on the man at the center of this in just a moment. the mayor of philadelphia on cnn calling that engineer reckless saying there's no excuse for the out-of-control speed. we also now know that bastian did apply the emergency brakes just before the crash but only slowed the train town to 102 miles an hour at impact. 102 to 102, then it crashed. you can see the curve where the train derailed. as you can see, it very sharp. horrific crash killing at least seven people. more than 200 injured, many of
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them in critical condition at this hour. it is almost 24 hours after this crash but there are still people missing. people hoping that their loved ones will be the miracle story tonight. this surveillance video shows the speeding train at the moment of the crash. >> are you okay? he's calling, okay? >> crawl forward, sir. keep crawling. >> passengers many of them with broken bones and serious head injuries, were scrambling desperately to escape. drew griffin is "outfront" in philadelphia. he begin ourself coverage. the man at the center of this is that ebbngineer. you have learned his name, something very crucial. >> reporter: yeah brandon bastion, from queens new york. we do know the police in philadelphia tried to speak with him, tried to question him. he refused, he has an attorney.
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ntsb said talk to him once the emotions of this event turn over. according to his linked inn account he's been an engineer with amtrak four years. before that he was a conductor with amtrak. described just a generic description from some of his neighbors, but he because he was driving this train is now the focus of this investigation. >> we have a picture that you were able to obtain. this is him outside his work uniform. that is brandon bostian, the engineer that should have been in control of the speed of the train at the time of impact. when he was called in for questioning it didn't seem he was cooperating? >> reporter: yeah he wasn't cooperating. that's according to the philadelphia police. they brought him into the detectives division. he refused to answer their questions. he did have an attorney with him. and that got a very strong reaction from the mayor of this
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town who squarely wants at least the engineer of this train who caused all this to answer the questions. >> clearly he was reckless and irresponsible in his actions. i don't know what was going on with him. i don't know what was going on in the cab. but there's really no excuse that could be offered. >> they need to talk to him for many reasons. there may be an excuse, there might have been a mechanical issue he was dealing with we don't know right now although all indications are speed was the problem. erin they'll also be looking at what was in his physical body in his system whether he was on the phone, was he asleep along with all the other things they're going to be looking at including track conditions and anything on the track that might have happened. but again, it was that speed, 106 miles an hour into an area where he should have only been going 50. it seems the engineer is the one person who can answer the question as to why, and right now, he's not answering anything.
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>> thank you very much drew griffin. new details on the investigation right now. jason carroll is also "outfront" from philadelphia with a look at exactly how this happened. what happened when it happened what investigators are looking at right now. >> reporter: the mangled wreckage of the amtrak train 188 strewn on the tracks. the event date recorder recovered from the train's first car has already revealed the train was traveling at least twice as fast as it should have been. 106 miles per hour as it entered the corner where it derailed late tuesday. >> just moments before the derailment the train was placed into engineer-induced braking. and this means that the engineer applied full emergency brake application. the train was traveling at approximately 106 miles per hour. three seconds later, when the data to the recorders terminated the train speed was
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102 miles per hour. >> reporter: the train, scheduled to leave philadelphia's union station at 9:10 tuesday night, derailed about 10 minutes later at 9:21. passengers say it felt like the train was going too fast as it headed into a left-hand turn then chaos. >> they were thrown out of their seats. one girl slammed into one of the seats. there are a lot of fractures. arms shoulders, all kinds of fractures. >> i could see the blood on people's faces. they can't move. their knees were out. so i just tried to do my best to help people get out of that car because it was smoking. >> reporter: surveillance video shows a flash the moment of the crash. mary row lives near the site and initially thought the bright light was lightning. >> my entire room lit up. it was that bright. took the dog and myself and got out of the house. >> reporter: many questions about the train's speed as it
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headed into that curve. an area called the frankfurt junction. locals call the frankford junction a notorious curve out here on the rails. the speed limit in this area just 50 miles per hour. at least seven people killed in the crash, including u.s. naval academy midshipman justin zemser, and gym gaines an associated press video software architect, he was 48. hospitals treated more than 200 people many of them hurt when other people or objects fell on top of them. >> this huge red suitcase just came flying at me. our train was actually on its side. so it pushed me onto the side of the train. it hit my chest. i think i have a few fractured ribs. >> reporter: erin, right now you're looking at a live picture of the crash. you can see one of the cars still on its side. investigators will be looking at everything from the track to signals to of course operator
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error. at least two people among those listed as missing. mark gildersleeve a businessman from baltimore, he has a 13-year-old son. then there's also rachel jacobs. she is the ceo of a small tech company. she has a 2-year-old. their families desperately hoping they will be found alive. >> jason, thank you very much. "outfront" now, andrew brenner, he was on board that amtrak train, train 188, when it derailed. he was sitting in the last car. andrew i know hearing all this having to relive what just happened to you not even 24 hours ago i know you are injured. how are you doing tonight? >> well you're right, i am a little banged up. but i'm extremely grateful that i'm sitting here with you this evening. it was a very terrifying terrifying experience. and to think that 24 hours ago i was literally across the street ready to get on this exact train at union station, and to think
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back over this last 24 hours, is really just incredible and sad for a number of reasons. >> how your life can change so quickly. i know you've hurt your vertebrae, you've hurt your back. others did lose their lives. i understand why you're grateful grateful. the mayor called the engineer reckless, he said maybe if he had a heart attack but they know he didn't have a heart attack. when you hear 1 over 6 miles an hour and the speed limit was 50 miles an hour where you were on that curve how do you feel? >> the news i've heard today about the speed and the lack of safety controls that could have been enforced at that lex of the railway is nothing short of infuriating. the fact that this was preventible, that seven people who waited in the same exact line that i did yesterday at union station in washington, d.c. lost their lives, that 200 people myself included spent
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the better part of last night in the hospital with injuries that were preventible. that is in a tragedy that will likely cost untold amounts of money that could have been prevented so many different ways. is just enraging. >> enraging and infuriating. of course you feel that way. could you tell andrew at the time that that train was moving too quickly? was there anything that seemed unusual to you? you've taken this train many times. was there anything that seemed off or did it just happen? >> it really happened so so quickly. you know i couldn't tell the difference between going 70 miles an hour or 120 miles an hour on an amtrak car. but you could tell from where i was that we took that curve really quickly. and there was some force there. and there was a bump. there was vibration. and then an immediate jolt. and i flew across the rail car. there were luggage and seats
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that came unhinged that were flying around. but at the end of the day the car that i was in most people even though they were pretty banged up were okay. there was a lot of really really good people on the train last night and an incredible amount of help that i think made the situation a lot better than it could have been. >> andrew i know that you feel lucky and blessed to be where you are and to be alive and back in washington with your girlfriend and we're glad that you are doing okay. thank you so much for sharing your story. >> thank you. "outfront" next we'll break down how the amtrak train derailed how it crashed. this is going to be a second-by-second analysis to try to understand what went so horribly wrong. almost 24 hours after the crash, people who were thought to be on the train are still missing. still missing. they don't know where they are. is there any hope that some of these people could be alive right now? and train wrecks and derailments in america are on the rise. it has become much more dangerous. why?
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new details about the the moments just before a speeding amtrak train derailed killing seven people. we know the name of the engineer just coming in a moments ago, brandon bostian, a 32-year-old engineer that was the man in charge of the controls. you see his picture there. an engineer for four years at amtrak. weave that a conductor. an engineer is the one who's actually in charge of the speed
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of the controls of the train. our understanding is he would have been the one in charge of that train going 106 miles an hour in a 50-mile-an-hour zone. that's what investigators say, the speed of the train, 106 miles an hour. as i said double the speed they were allowed to be going in that area. as investigators comb through the wreckage we are learning amtrak actually has the technology available to stop trains from speeding. >> based on what we know right now, we feel that had such a system been installed in this section of track, this accident would not have occurred. >> brian todd is "outfront" live in philadelphia at the crash site. brian what have you learned about this? this is a krurnl point here. because this thousand appears to be certainly caused by speed. whether, who knows exactly, why but caused by speed. there's a technology that could have prevented it? >> reporter: that's right, erin positive train control. and it is developing now as the
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crucial factor that really could have played a significant role in the situation. a default system that could have stopped this accident. what we're told about positive train control is it's a system designed to alert the engineer when the train is moving at excessive speed where there are places of a specific speed limit. it's based on the grade, the contour of the track, and the speed with which the train is going. it's supposed to alert the engineer the train is going too fast. if the engineer fails to respond to that warning, then the train's onboard computer system takes over and stops the train. we're told congress mandated all rail lines in this region of the country be outfitted with positive train control by the end of 2015. but ntsb as you just heard has said that it has not been installed in this section of the track near philadelphia. you heard robert zumwalled say if it had been they believe this accident wouldn't have occurred. that is a huge factor being talked about tonight. >> thank you very much brian.
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even more trag whick you think about that passenger who told us how enraged and infuriated he is that when was caused by speed. tonight investigators are looking at the engineer's actions. along with the track. to try to understand why this train, which was carrying 238 passengers and five crew members, was traveling so incredibly fast. tom foreman is "outfront" live in the virtual room. tom what have you been able to learn as you piece this together second by second about how exactly this crash happened? >> reporter: what we know that is investigators had good reason from the beginning to suspect excessive speed. surveillance video, watch the train rushing by. if you know the length of the locomotive the length of the cars you compare them to a fixed point, you can calculate, and we did early today, that it was going a lot faster than it ought to be going, 200 yards short of the impact site. now, why does that matter so much? think about what brian was talking about, about controlling the train. we'll bring in a model and talk about it. it's all basic physics.
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the locomotive on a train like this is heavy, about 97 metric tons. that's pushing up toward 250,000 pounds. it's not really that heavy but getting close to it. if it's traveling 50 miles an hour as it should be all of the physics here work out fine. yes, there is a lot of force pushing it toward the outside of a curve just as there is in a car when you go around a curve like that. if you push this up to 100, that force gets much much greater up there. now up here where you have a low center of gravity with a lot of weight that may not be such a problem for the anyone. but think about what was going on back there. we've had passengers who said they've had the feeling that these cars in the back started lifting up and flying off the track. that's very possible. with a different center of gravity, weight higher up in the car. we know that because we have seen it before. think about that spanish train crash. that train was supposed to be going 50 miles an hour. it went over 100. look at how it just flipped all of the passenger cars behind it
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off the track and then they pulled the locomotive off behind them. all of this is the physics of a crash like this. and this is why investigators knew from the very beginning that they had to look at this pattern of the wreck itself and the video and say, maybe this train was just going too fast. >> all right, tom. thank you very much. pretty incredible. it does remind everyone of that crash in spain, a very similar situation. coming in at a similar speed to a curve with the same speed limit. and obviously the fatality rate there was incredibly high. "outfront," matthew wall transportation safety expert. let me ask you, when you hear this, you heard the mayor of philadelphia he said this was reckless on the part of the engineer you just heard the passenger say he feels enraged and in488ed by this. does this appear to you at this point to be operator error, that it was the engineer who made the decision for this train to be going so fast? >> if it was a decision. he could have been texting or something.
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it could have been a mechanical problem. it doesn't hurt to wait a couple of days to figure out what the ntsb figures out. there is though a division going on. the police want to question him because they want to prosecute him. ntsb wants to find out what happened make sure it never happens again. when you turn this into a prosecution it's harder to get information out of a guy. as a result you have trouble gleaning all the information you can and preventing a repetition. >> right. of course we're showing pictures of him now. we just have his name brandon bostian, engineer. as drew griffin reported as you point out, he wouldn't answer questions from detectives today. the ntsb may be different as they try to figure this out. but speed has been a big issue. in spain, 79 people were killed in that crash. >> it's all within the capability of modern technology to prevent. the train knows where it is the train knows what the local speed limit is. you could program the train to refuse to exceed the speed limit. we do this with airplanes now in some airplanes.
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the pilot can give a command and the computer on the airplane will say, hey, boss you really don't want to do that it will refuse to do it. they could have done it in the germanwings crash. they could have programmed the plane so the plane knows where it is it knows there's no air field nearby it will refuse to go below a certain altitude. we don't operate a lot that way but we could. >> that raises its own questions. then you're using software you have hackable issues all kinds of things. when you look at the pictures as an expert at the derailment the first passenger car decimated, the other six also derailed three of them end up on their side. it almost looks like tonka toys in terms of how it happened. obviously this is all the physics of exactly how this occurred. when you see this crash and you see which ones went on the side which were flung from the tracks what does it tell you about the force and the derailment itself? >> it tells you that this train is a lot tougher than the spanish train. american trains are heavier and tougher. and in a similar accident you'd rather be on an american train.
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it also tells you that the energy that you've got in a moving vehicle increases -- doesn't increase linearly it increases exponentially. this train at 100 miles an hour had four times as much energy as a train going at 50 miles an hour. it also tells you, i don't know what the stopping distance on this train was, ntsb will use a computer program to figure that out. depend on this the grade, depend on this the weight of the train, et cetera. but usually stopping distances on trains like this are measured in miles. a mile, a mile and a half two miles, somewhere on that order. >> of course here you didn't even have seconds before he hit those brakes. >> if you listen to sumwalt carefully apparently he applied the brakes three seconds and slowed down by four miles an hour. what that tells you is they were committed to this crash long before they hit the curve. >> appreciate your time. as matthew said 106 when the brakes were applied, at the time of the crash it was 102.
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we've learned the name of the engineer of the train, brandon bostian, 32 years old, he's been an engineer with amtrak since the year 2010 which means he's the one in charge of the controls for the train. prior to that he was the conductor for amtrak for four years. we know bastion has hired a lawyer he has refused to speak to detectives today. this as the national transportation safety board just revealed that the train was going 106 miles an hour. that is more than twice the speed limit which was 50 miles an hour on this curve. investigators say bastion applied the emergency brakes but literally it was already essentially at impact. it slowed the train from 106 to 102 miles an hour before all
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seven trail cars derailed. first responders pulled passengers who were bloodied and injured from the wreckage. seven people lost their lives in this horrible crash. more than 200 injured. eight are still in critical condition. and there are still passengers that are missing, that are unaccounted for. there are families hoping for a miracle tonight, hoping maybe somebody had a head injury hasn't been able to contact their family. erin mclaughlin is "outfront" in philadelphia. you've been trying to find out more about these missing passengers. what have you been able to figure out? >> reporter: authorities say they are still searching for the missing. while they haven't given an exact figure we know of at least one passenger still unaccounted for. that according to his friends and colleagues. 45-year-old robert gildersleeve was dropped off at a train station in baltimore by his wife. he has two teenaged sons. he was set to catch amtrak 188 and was never seen again. now, we do know that at least
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seven people died in this tragedy. authorities have yet to release their identities. they say they are working to try and notify all next of kin first. and it's unclear if gildersleeve is one of them. his family saying they certainly hope he's not among the dead. >> erin what i'm trying to understand i think a lot of the people watching you buy a ticket for a train under your name, it's scanned when you get on board, how is it they don't know who was on the train, they don't know who's missing? >> reporter: authorities are pointing to several potential factors. first of all, the impact was so severe that it actually expanded the search area. they think it is possible some of these passengers could have been actually ejected from the train. they also say it's possible that someone who had a ticket for the train never actually boarded and they also say it's possible that someone could have simply walked away without notifying authorities. >> erin thank you very much. "outfront" tonight, beth
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david, she survived the amtrak crash, she was sitting in the third car of the train. beth thank you. i know it has been a hard day, it's hard for you to tell this story, you're exhausted. let me start with what our viewers are going to see. you have a black eye. you're injured. >> right, yeah. yeah so i was in the third car. i was the third car back. i mean what i felt my experience i was on a phone call. i hung up. it felt like a normal train ride. then suddenly the car just felt like it was tipping. at first you think it's just a big curve. then it's the moment that you know you're actually falling off the rail. then it's kind of -- it was a molt of blackness as you're being thrown around like a rag doll in the dark. >> that's how it felt was just -- what were you thinking? were you thinking this is it for me? >> yeah. >> were you trying to survive? what went through your head? >> there's nothing you can do in that moment. it was a few seconds that felt like a long time. you could hear pounding.
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i remember -- pounding in the back of my head. i was like maybe this is -- and the moment that like we came to rest it was like i'm alive. we can deal with this. just being thankful. that's when i could hear all the other passengers. the woman next to me she was facing my legs she was trapped underneath the seats. another woman, she was kind of stuck kind of outside the window in the dirt. so some people are looking for help some people are looking for their phones. i mean eventually we did find an exit through the windows. which at first, maybe we should wait for first responders. or you know what can we do to help other people? but, i mean it started to fill with smoke. >> you were afraid? >> yeah, someone said like you know -- people were really helpful to each other and calm. stay calm we need to get out of here. i helped somebody up somebody helped me. we climbed up to the top. we were a good eight feet up. and then you just kind of have
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to do a jump-down. i mean i felt lucky i had one shoe and my phone. then i was kind of like where do i go from there? that's about the time the first responders got there. you can see from the scenes that the first cars, it was just -- i just felt lucky we were even crawling out. >> you felt lucky to be alive. when you hear now what we're learning the speed, we don't yet know why, we don't know why. the mayor of philadelphia said the train's engineer was reckless and irresponsible. we're learning a little more about him. we don't know why he was going so fast. when you were on that train, talking to a passenger, he said you were all in line together. seven people in that line are dead. others might be. we don't know. they're missing. how does it make you feel when you hear that? >> i mean in general, throughout the whole experience you're getting on the train. it's totally just your normal regular commute that you may do. but i mean action like after the crash, everybody -- you knew you
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went through this moment together. as for what it was, i've heard so many theories now, that it might have been some kind of -- something that hit the train at this speed. the engineer. i can't say what that is. i'll reserve judgment because it makes me feel like it could be multiple causes. end of the day i'm just you know -- i feel like a lot of us we're not at the point of blame. it's much more just being glad to be here. >> glad to be alive. and to see your family. >> yeah getting to talk to everyone. seeing your -- crying and being happy at the same time. and the day's been there. it goes from this moment of like life and death to like this moment of like, i have no money what do i do? how do i deal with logistics? my laptop's gone. you know what? that's life, i guess. so -- >> well, thank you so much.
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>> you're welcome. >> i hope you get some rest and get better. i know your eye and body and the side of your face you've got some recovering to do. thank you. "outfront" next deadly train crashes are on a sudden rise in the nation's busiest rail corridor where this tragedy happened. is too much traffic overloading the system? we have a special report. north korea's defense minister reportedly executed because he fell asleep during a ceremony. executed in the stadium in front of people. why is kim jong-un killing so many of his top officials? the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born. after all, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned... every day... using wellness to keep away illness... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. for as the world keeps on searching for healthier... we're here to make healthier happen. optum. healthier is here.
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quote today,call liberty mutual insurance at see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. investigators continue to search the wreckage for missing passengers aboard last night's train that derailed in philadelphia. seven are confirmed dead. as i said many are still missing. this is just one of several deadly train crashes in the past year. railroad deads in america are shockingly on the rise. you probably feel incredibly safe on a train. this may surprise you. suzanne val voe has a special report "outfront." >> reporter: tuesday's amtrak crash is just the latest in a string of horrifying accidents on u.s. rails. >> all of a sudden in the plink
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of an eye, i went from one side of the train to the other side of the train. >> reporter: according to the federal railroad administration on average there have been 31 amtrak train derailments a year. of varying degrees since 2006. so far, there have been nine this year prior to the most recent incident. and while amtrak owns and operates about 80% of the 457 miles of track between washington and boston called the northeast corridor some of the most recent fatal crashes have involved commuter trains operated by others. in february just north of new york city a metro north commuter train slammed into a vehicle that was stopped on the tracks killing the driver and six commuters. in december 2013 federal safety officials say a metro north train jumped the tracks in bronx, new york as it barreled around a curve, traveling three times the posted speed, killing four.
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with more than 11 million passengers traveling along the northeast corridor between washington and boston each year it has become one of the busiest, most complex, and technically advanced rail systems in the world. engineering professor george bibel says while traveling by train is largely safe passengers should be more concerned about the state of the tracks than speeding engineers. >> while most derailments are caused by equipment error, rail problems are a common one. the rails can fracture from metal fatigue or they can move around and shift or anything else that moves. common ones are wheels bearings axles. >> reporter: coincidentally, the site of tuesday's crash in philadelphia is in the same area where the nation saw one of its deadliest train accidents in history. in 1943 a train traveling from washington to new york went off the tracks killing 79 people.
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like so many people who live and travel along the east coast, i'm very familiar with the northeast corridor, take amtrak many times. there had been a decrease in fatalities but in recent history a reversal. last year the total number of all railroad fatalities was 813. that is 20% higher than just three years ago. >> incredible. sue zahn thank you very much. joining me, andrew miloneny litigator, metro north railroad derailment. he represents the victims in these cases. when you look at this we're hearing speed, we know the engineer who would be the one in charge of the controls the one in charge of the speed. we know his background. four years as an engineer four years before that as a conductor, eight years at amtrak we understand 32 years old. what are they going to be specifically looking at to determine if he is to blame?
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>> well the ntsb is pretty good at looking at the human factors when they investigate accidents. aviation train, other kinds. they're going to look at any medication they're going to look at his sleep patterns to find out if he had sleep issues. the engineer in the derailment in the bronx claimed to have sleep issues and may have zoned out or been asleep at the throttle when he accelerated too fast and took that turn in the bronx. similar issues are going to be hooked at here for him. they're going to have to determine, you know we've seen some crazy things lately with the pilot of germanwings. i'm not suggesting there's depression here but they'll have to look at all those things. >> they're not just looking into whether he was texting or making calls, they're going to be looking at were you using your phone for video games? >> yeah i know that they -- technology's there, if they have his cell phone, they can not only looking for texts and whether he was making a call but whether or not a person is using it to search websites or play
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video games. >> the mayor of philadelphia is outraged by this. outrage is a fair word. let me play for you exactly what he had to say about this. >> clearly he was reckless and irresponsible in his actions. i don't know what was going on with him. i don't know what was going on in the cab. but there's really no excuse that could be offered. >> he went on to say there could be no reasonable, rational explanation for why you're doing 106 on a 50-mile-an-hour rated curve. would you agree? >> i'd have to agree. less than 24 hours out, we need to hear from him and his side -- >> he's refused to talk so far so we don't know but he will at some point. >> he will at some point have to issue a statement or a statement on his behalf. so i'd like to know what he has to say about that. but certainly the evidence is mounting against him. it looks pretty bad. it looks like it was reckless. >> in spain they charged the engineer with more than 70 counts of homicide. in that horrific crash. what would be the charges here? >> they'd be looking at a manslaughter type charge
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reckless endangerment criminally negligent homicide. not the same as murder but certainly lesser included offenses. similar to a driver who drives his car 100 miles an hour through a school zone and hits pedestrians. >> thank you very much andrew appreciate your time. "outfront" next a top north korea general reportedly executed in front of a crowd. a large crowd in a stadium. by anti-aircraft guns. one in a series of brutal executions in the dictate areship. what is happening to kim jong-un? >> they were mothers, fathers, there was a son. people heading home on the train. thinking about nothing. except for what was on their phone, getting home to see their families. ahead, we're going to remember those who lost their lives so awfully and unfairly in this crash. ♪ ♪ the beautiful sound of customers making the
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lisa is "outfront." >> a public execution of one of the north korea high officials. it was said that kim jong-un had his defense minister shot by anti-aircraft guns as many of the elite watched. the reason? being disloyal. >> young was a loyalist who spent years working under kim's father to become the highest level officer. those who attending a intelligence briefing about his death, said he was accused of dozing off during military reports. >> if this is true this is another extreme act by the north korean regime. >> as he struggles to consolidate power, another
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execution shown by a group of people sometime last october. in 2013, kim killed his own uncle, once a member of his inner circle for treason. a defector tells cnn, he poisoned his auntd for complainting about -- complaining about her husband and he has had ten people killed this year alone and was called slander. but words of the execution comes as he backed out of the putin massive military parade marking the end of world war ii. russians say it was different reasons. could those be fear of him or
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fear a coup. >> when we see groups like this there might be a group that feel they are better off under a different leadership. >> and the fear of being assassinated could have kept kim from traveling to russia this weekend. this is the latest in the personnel levels and kim jong-un is in control right now but not a leader confident in his position and still trying to establish himself. >> fascinating and disturbing me. joining me gordon chang, and goerld you are talking about the defense minister. that has to be one of the top jobs in the country and executed by anti-aircraft guns in front
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of hundreds of people in a stadium. why? >> he is trying to instill fear because he doesn't control the military or the regime. he's put to death 84 people so far and many more than his father during the same period in his rule. and we know things will get worse because blood demands blood. >> so you think we'll continue to see this purging. how does he get people to go along with it if he is not secure in his power. how do you get hundreds of elites to show up in a sade to watch someone get murdered a anti-aircraft. >> some of the people kim may have ordered them but you have recommend eej elements out to settle scores and they kill others in the name of kim jong-un. we don't know what is going on. there are so many possible explanations but this is bad because the worse sign of
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instability is not the purges. >> he won't be killing people. >> and at this pace. >> there is a photo at his father's death, and seven palm bearers, and are they all now dead except for him? >> or disappeared from public view. >> and this was the ipper circle of his father -- the inner circle of his father and wanted him to take over. >> you would expect kim jong-un to move his father's loyalists out to put his own people in. kim jong-un did not have enough time to build up his circle before his father died unexpectedly so it was in the cards for these people to be moved out but maybe not so brutally and fast and even that group that is gone they have continued to execute people and the continued executions should shock on servers. >> thank you, gordon. how quickly a life can
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and back to our top breaking story of the night, the deadly amtrak detrailment. it was supposed to be business
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as usual. hundreds of people getting in line business student executives going to new york from d.c. after a long day, going along the busiest stretch of rail in the united states and then suddenly there is chaos. hundreds of lives have changes and seven have been taken too soon. at this point we know the names of four of the seven victims. justin zem zer was a naval academy mid shipman from queens, new york. 40-year-old jim gains was with the associated press and once won the geek of the month award. he was returned home to his wife and two children in plainsboro new jersey. >> abu dell anie was based here in new york. and the final name rachel jacobs for so much of today she
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was on the list of the missing and they confirm she did not survive. she was the ceo of a small tech firm and she survived by her husband and 2-year-old son. and tonight we hobe among those still missing there will be a miracle. ac360 starts right now. good evening. we are live tonight from philadelphia the devastating scene of last night's deadly amtrak train derailment. the train engineer has just been identified and we'll have more on that in a moment. the investigation is in the early stages but the ntsb said the train was going more than 100 miles per hour before the crash and that is more than twice the speed limit for the curve it was on before it die railed and they are trying to figure out why it was going so fast and seven people confirmed dead and

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