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happening now, breaking news. in custody, the alleged shooter in the charleston church massacre is being flown back to south carolina to face charges just hours after his capture. was he solely driven by racism and hate? or something else? exclusive images show the suspect, dylann roof posing as a worshipper apparently before the fatal shots were fired. in mourning worshippers praying for the nine churchgoers who were gunned down. tonight we're learning more about their lives and their deaths and the surprising ways that a few others survived. historic church. one of the south's olders african-american congregations now a murder scene. tonight, emotional comments from president obama about the
slaughter in charleston and gun violence in america. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news, we're standing by for the alleged gunman in the charleston church massacre to be flown to south carolina. he's being sent back to face charges in the shooting deaths of nine members of an historic african-american congregation. this is the first video of 21-year-old darren roof in custody shortly after his capture in north carolina. tonight a cnn exclusive. images of roof sitting inside a bible study class before he allegedly opened fire. police said he spent about an hour in the room then revealed to his victims he was there to "shoot black people." congressman james scli burnclyburn is standing by as we cover this breaking story. cnn's brian todd on the scene in
lexington lexington, south carolina, the suspect's hometown. what's the latest you're picking up there? >> reporter: wolf tonight 21-year-old dylann roof is accused of a hate crime. as mentioned we've learned he has waived extradition in north carolina and he's being flown back to charleston. also we're getting new details of his arrest and of his recent run-ins with police. 21-year-old accused killer dylann roof in custody captured hours after he allegedly opened fire in a historic black church in charleston, south carolina killing nine. >> that terrible human being who would go into a place of worship where people were praying and kill them is now in custody where he will always remain. >> reporter: police seized roof after his vehicle was spotted in shelby north carolina about a four-hour drive from the deadly rampage at emanuel ame church.
he was armed but investigators don't know if it was the alleged murder weapon. also police say, roof's father gave him a .45-caliber gun for his 21st birthday in april. cnn has learned roof had run-ins with police before. he was arrested this february at a south carolina mall after employees at a bath and body works complained that a white male dressed all in black was asking them "out of the ordinary questions" about how many associates were working in the stores and what time they were leaving. the officer who spoke to roof said he became "nervous acting" and was "taking more time to think of answers to my questions." he was arrested after the officer found illegal drugs used to treat addiction to heroin and other opiates in his pocket. he told police he had no prescription for the drug that a friend gave to it him. two months later roof arrested again for trespassing in a parking lot at the same mall ignoring a one-year ban the mall issued after his first arrest. school officials tell cnn roof bounced around elementary and
middle schools in lexington and richland counties in south carolina and that he had to repeat the ninth grade at white knoll high school before he went to another high school. one school official described roof as "a transient student, always in and out of school." i spoke to roof's former ninth grade classmate john mullins and asked if roof had racist tendencies. >> he said jokes before but they weren't too serious. i didn't think of them as serious. >> what kind of jokes? >> i'm not really going to say them. but they were just racist slurs in a sense. like under -- i don't know you just say it like -- just as a joke i don't know how else to explain it. but i never took it seriously. but now that he showed his other side -- >> reporter: john mullins says he should have taken roof's jokes seriously. mullins says he is sick and devastated over the charleston shootings. when i asked mullins what he would say to dylann roof if he
could speak to him now, he said "you have to bleep that out." learning more about the nine killed at the bible study class, ranged from ages 26 to 87. cnn's alina machado is in charleston with new information what are you finding out? >> reporter: wolf the victims of this terrible massacre all had different backgrounds. they were husbands they were fathers, they were preachers, even grandparents. but they were all united in their final moments by their faith. >> i'm in my fourth year of pastoring here at the church. >> reporter: reverend clemente pinckney who served as a state senator, was silenced along with six women and two other men at this historic black church. survivors relayed horrifying details to pinckney's family. his cousin told affiliate wis the killer was intent on his target. >> he asked for the approximates for, where's the pastor? he sat next to my cousin,
reverend clemente pinckney throughout the entire bible study. >> reporter: witnesses say the pastor was preaching when he was shot. today, the senate session in charleston began with a somber remembrance. >> we seek this morning to gather and honor one of our own, one whom we love with all of our hearts. >> reporter: pinckney's empty desk in the state capitol decorated in his honor. the 41-year-old father of two had been serving in south carolina's legislature for nearly two decades. >> just a sweet, loving man. a dedicated public servant to his community and also dedicated servant to his faith and his congra investigation. >> if we could pow our head forth a word of prayer -- >> reporter: among those pinckney led in prayer and joined in death was myra thompson wife of one of the church bishops, teaching bible study as she was shot. fellow pass soar sharonda singleton also killed.
her son posting last night, just as news of the tragedy broke. something extremely terrible has happened to my mom tonight. please pray for her and my family pray asap. he posted but it was too late. the high school speech therapist and track coach had been gunned down. as prayers echoed in the aftermath, the victims inside included tywanza sanders, seen here in his facebook profile, graduate of allen university and beloved local barber. his shop posting this tribute to their facebook page today. cynthia hurd 31-year employee of the city's public library, also killed. the library is closed today and confirmed her death on its facebook page. writing that hurd "dedicated her life to serving and improving the lives of others." lives of service cut shockingly short in a city now singing to fill their silence. ♪ 49-year-old depayne
middleton-doctor worked at southern wesleyan university, the mother of four girls and had a deep deep faith. the other victims, 70-year-old ethel lance, 74-year-old daniel simmons senior and the oldest victim was 87-year-old suzie jackson, wolf. >> heartbreaking, heartbreaking development. thank you very much alina, for that report. to exclusive images inside that bible study class before the shooting rampage. don lemon broke this part of the story in the last hour. i want you to update our viewers. tell our viewers who may just be joining us what you've learned. >> reporter: and wolf i have new information for you, as a matter of fact. we had those exclusive pictures for you last hour. now the video. first the pictures. as i bring our viewers up to speed on what's happening here these pictures are from a snap chat feed of one of the victims, tywanza sanders. it is the shooter, 21-year-old dylan roof inside of this
prayer service, inside of this bible study, moments before this shooting happened. also sitting at the table in a different photograph is one of the prayer leaders. it is believed it is possibly state senator clemente pinckney who also died who happened to be the pastor at the church because this person appears to be leading the service. now, wolf i want to show you the video. this is just in to cnn. new video from inside this church. the emanuel ame church. there it is it's a snapshot from the feed. as this bible study is going on. everyone inside of this church the reverend the prayer leaders, the bible leaders, the people who were there participating, welcomed this 21-year-old young man, or killer we can call him now, alleged killer into the fold. because he led them on. making them believe he wanted to be a part of the service, that he wanted to learn about the bible, that he wanted to learn
about god, he wanted to be a part of them. and an hour later, he opens fire. he's accused of opening fire on people in there, killing nine people. they were there to study the bible, to learn about god, and instead, the devil was among them wolf. >> certainly was. don, hold on for a moment. i want to cue up that video. i want to play it. i just want to be able to hear it as well. so stand by for a sec. >> yes, yes. want to talk a little bit -- >> yes, yes. >> so, you know i want to -- >> you want to talk a little more about it? >> it sounds don, to me like the pastor clemente pinckney is helping teaching in this bible study class. you can hear a little bit of that. is that your sense? >> that's the sense. listen we think it could be
pinckney or reverend daniel sim mops who also died 71-year-old pastor daniel simmons senior. if he as pastor of the church it would make sense he would be leading this bible study, so there you have it moments before that gruesome gruesome terrorist act. >> don, i want to go to the airport in north carolina these are live pictures. i think we're about to see dylann roof being escorted taken out of that vehicle, onto that plane. there he is, he just got out. he's got the bullet-proof vest surrounded by law enforcement. they're taking him to that plane which is going to fly him back to charleston south carolina. there he is right there, 21-year-old dylann roof walking on the tarmac heading over to the small plane that will fly him back waiving extradition, heading from north carolina back to south carolina where he'll face presumably murder charges. nine people, wonderful people, all of them murdered at that bible study class at this
historic african-american church in charleston, south carolina. there you see him right there being taken on that plane. authorities going through some final procedures making sure he doesn't represent a threat to anyone there or himself for that matter. don lemon, you're watching this scene, what's going on. it's obviously a very important moment right now. >> and wolf in the video, in the live pictures he seems cooperative. he's not fighting. and if i may tell our viewers what happened this morning, how he was captured. he was captured in shelby north carolina and from a bolo that was put out be on the lookout. and they recognized the license plate, they recognized him, they recognized the car when they ran the plates they saw that it was him. when they did apprehend him, he was carrying a gun. a .45-caliber handgun. that gun is believed to have
been given to him by his father for his 21st birthday which was just on april 3rd. not sure if that is the gun he's accused of using in this particular incident. but what a -- not even 24 hours it's been since he began this shooting the shooting began, we were on the air last night at 10:00 this apparently happened at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. then the information started coming in an hour later. there you see him being cooperative. and according to sources and to police this morning, when they took him into custody, he was cooperative as well. what does that mean? it doesn't mean anything because he's accused of killing nine people and committing a terrorist act, saying you're raping our women you're taking our country, you have to be stopped, i'm here to shoot black people. that's an act of terrorism. that is ethnic cleansing when you say that you're going to take people of a certain ethnicity out. >> he's now inside that cabin. you saw the handoff from north carolina personnel, law enforcement personnel,
presumably to south carolina personnel. maybe some federal authorities are on that plane as well. they're going to be carrying him, taking him back to charleston south carolina where presumably he'll be facing murder charges. nine people slaughtered, massacred, inside that bible study class in charleston south carolina historic african-american church emanuel ame. what a heartbreaking story this has been all along. president obama meanwhile, he's sharing his anger, his heartbreak over the slaughter of these african-americans in this sacred and historic church. >> the fact that this took place in a black church obviously also raises questions about a dark part of our history. this is not the first time that whack churches have been attacked. and we know that hatred across races and faiths pose a particular threat to our address and our ideals.
>> let's bring in congressman jim clyburn of south carolina joining from us charleston right now. congressman, i know you had a chance to speak with president obama today. what did he tell you and what did you tell him? >> well, thank you very much for having me wolf. the president called as i worked my way from the airport here to the church to let me know that he was thinking of the members of the congregation of emanuel, and of course he invoked his memories of both this church and morris brown ame where we're having the service. and asked that i personally deliver his well wishers to everybody. and of course i told him that i would keep him posted on what's taking place here, because he expressed an interest in standing up today on the activities here. and so after a meeting tonight
with other members of the ame church i'll get back with the president sometime in the morning to let him know what i know. so we just talked about that. and his remorsefulness about all of this. >> we're showing our viewers, congressman, the small plane that's about to carry dylann roof back to south carolina from north carolina where he'll face murder charges. nine people who were murdered. and i want to talk about some of these people. you knew the pastor at this church. but if you could just stand by for a moment congressman, i want to take a quick break. we'll watch what's going on with this plane. we'll take a quick break, much more with jim clyburn when we come back.
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breaking news the suspect in the charleston church mass customer is in custody he's aboard that small plane going to be flying back to south carolina from shelby north carolina where he'll face charges in connection with the murder of nine people at a congregation historic black church in south carolina. charleston let's go to charleston as we await to see this plane take off. congressman jim clyburn, south carolina is still with us. do you know, congressman, if this alleged shooter is cooperating with police? >> i don't know that.
all that i've heard seemed to indicate that he gave them no trouble when they confronted him and arrested him. and how much he's cooperating beyond that, i don't know. but i really want to know. because i really believe that we cannot understand the full import of this action until we know what motivated this young man. now, if he had some individual anti-social feelings, even racial misgivings that's one thing. but if he is acting out of his sensitivities and sensibilities with some kind of organized anti-social group that is proliferating the internet with all of this hate stuff, then that's something else again. because i really believe that those people of good will that
exist in this state and this nation have got to stop being silent when we see so many things like this taking place. i remember back in the '70s when i was in the governor's office, the things we did under governor west to penetrate and infiltrate the ku klux klan to render them almost useless to everybody including themselves. we have now stepped back from these groups and we act as if because we're not doing it then we don't have any responsibility for it. we have responsibility to each other. we have responsibility to this state and to this nation. we see this kind of stuff taking place. we've got to speak up. we've got to stand up. john lewis was saying we've got to get in the way and make some noise. and unless people do that, speak
up and speak out, the evil-thinking people will control the airwaves and they will control the activities much of which is not good for the future of this great country. >> congressman clyburn, as usual, well said. i'd like to continue our conversation tomorrow if we can. thank you so much today for joining us. >> thank you. >> i wish we were meeting under different circumstances. thank you very much. more on the breaking news coming up. we're getting chilling new details of the church massacre that left nine wonderful people dead. plus new information about the 21-year-old suspect. does he have ties to white supremacist hate groups? when were you first considered a family? when you fell in love? when you got married? when you had kids? when did you first fight to be considered a family? when you fell in love?
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we're following breaking news the 21-year-old suspect in the south carolina church massacre being flown right now back to south carolina after making his first court appearance in north carolina where he was arrested. police believe dylann roof shot and killed nine people at a bible study class, all black in what's being investigated as a hate crime. cnn's renee marsh, what's the latest? >> tonight we are taking a closer look at the alleged shooter's background. we know he's had brushes with the law before he was a transient student in high school so much so he had to repeat the ninth grade. we also know dylann roof told the victims he was there to kill black people. investigators are still working to get a fuller picture of what could have pushed the alleged shooter to commit this heartless crime.
tonight, new video of 21-year-old dylann roof in police custody for allegedly opening fire inside emanuel ame church. he was caught on surveillance camera wednesday night entering the church. roof sat in bible study with the church members for an hour before his deadly rampage. >> he leaded -- reloaded five different times. >> reporter: witnesses say he stood up and said he was there to "shoot black people." >> he just said i have to do it. he said you rape our women and you taking over our country, and you have to go. >> reporter: three survivors, the charleston naacp president telling cnn one of them, a woman who received a chilling message from the shooter, he was sparing her life so "you can tell them what happened." >> there was some premeditation, preplanning clearly on his part. there are a lot of reasons why
he may have delayed his activities. he could have been enjoying the moment. he could have been waiting for the right opportunity. >> reporter: police are calling the deadly shooting a hate crime. the fbi's investigating whether roof is affiliated with any hate groups. his social media profile shows him wearing a jacket wearing two flags of apartheid-era south africa and nearby row rhodesia. >> a young man who is angry, disenfranchised with the great society we live in. >> reporter: police records show roof had been arrested twice in south carolina before once in february at a mall after store employees complained a white male dressed in all black was asking "out of the ordinary questions" about the number of associates working and when they were leaving. the officer on scene found narcotics in his pocket used to treat opiate addiction, including drugs like heroin. two months later, he was arrested again for trespassing
at the same mall. roof was armed when he was arrested but it's unclear if it was the .45-caliber gun sources say his father recently bought him for his 21st birthday this april. right now, investigators are looking hard at potential ties to domestic terrorist organizations and white supremacist groups to determine if he was influenced by any of those groups. wolf? >> thanks very much for that report. i want to dig deeper with former fbi assistant director cnn law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes. our senior legal analyst jeff toobin. and the director of the southern poverty law center intelligence project, heidi byrick. heidi, was your organization aware of this suspect, dylann roof, before the shooting took place? >> no. we had nothing in our files on this particular suspect. and all the digging we've done today doesn't indicate at least at this point that he was connected to an organized white supremacist group. >> what about the patches on his
jacket? as renee reported on, the apartheid apartheid south african flag the rhodesian flag the country now known as zimbabwe are these common symbols for white supremacist groups? >> yeah, even though we haven't connected him with a group, there's no question he was connected to the ideology. those particular patches have been worn at events white supremacist events in the united states. the idea that whites in south africa are under attack by blackmons is very -- black mobs is common among white supremacists here. he might have been on sites immerseing himself in these ideas. the patches are slightly obscure for the mainstream though they're not if you're connected to hate propaganda. >> authorities are going to try to figure out where he found these patches, where he got them if others were involved. tell bus the fbi role in finding
that kind of information. >> first of all what heidi said is it shows you no matter what goofy belief you may have you can find other baelievers on the internet, like-minded groups with the same thoughts or be influenced by them. that would be the fbi role is to look at membership of groups all over the nation. there's hundreds of these white hate groups under a variety of different names to see if he did belong to any of them communicated with any of them had frequent contact to their websites on his e-mails, on his internet approaches on his cell phone, just to make sure that he absolutely was a loner and not directly involved with one of these groups where there might be more. also they have to be concerned now about the chatter on social media of sympathizers and copycats. that's a real possibility now of others that may have no connection to him. >> the fact jeffrey, that he was driving away 14 hours after this crime was committed, they found him eventually in north
carolina. does that suggest this was not some sort of insane guy, that he won't be able to cop an insanity plea? because if he was trying to escape, he obviously knew he did something wrong. >> that's one factor that will be relevant. and obviously if insanity is the defense, there will have to be a lot of background research that both the prosecution and the defense will do. you know south carolina is a very tough jurisdiction. it is a death penalty state. it is a state that doesn't have a hate crimes law, but it does actually execute people unlike some states that technically have death penalty laws on the books. when you kill nine people you can be sure that any prosecutor in that state is going to be looking for the death penalty. and regardless of whether the hate crime law is on the books or not. >> how does a young person like this get so radicalized? is it through the internet
social media? what do you suspect? >> well i mean unfortunately there are a lot of young people who get sucked into the white supremacist world, and it's basically two things that do that. hate music, which is very very attractive to kids who are sort of lost from dysfunctional family backgrounds and so on. and the second thing is the web. posting thousands of times a year it becomes their social network, their world is virtual hate propaganda. that's how we see people come into this movement. >> i want to show our viewers this video that we got from inside that bible study class. take a look at this. he's sitting in there. the pastor is teaching from the bible. clearly he's planning a massacre right? >> right, oftentimef the oftentimes we see with this kind of mental condition, once they've decided they're going to carry out the act, today's the day, this is the
moment there's almost serenity that comes over them. they can sit there calmly because they know this is what i'm going to do and there's no problem with doing it. a calmness comes over the person. >> as you point out, jeffrey, the fact that this is a hate crime, that the justice department in washington now investigating it as a hate crime, if you're accused of nine murders that's potentially the death sentence in south carolina? >> right. the federal investigation is likely to prove irrelevant. this is going to be a south carolina case. it's going to be a death penalty case under any circumstances. and the fact that federal hate crimes charges are a possibility is -- i mean is basically irrelevant. if i can just talk about one thing about the issue of patterns. you know dave cullen wrote a remarkable book about columbine. and that massacre has obviously some pair hesrallels here.
the thing that is so chilling about that book, and he goes into this in some detail is that there is no pattern. that there are a lot of people on horrible hate websites and very, very few credit crimes. it is so hard to identify which ones of the people who have these horrible views actually put them into action. ask that's what makes these crimes so difficult to anticipate. >> heidi do you agree? >> yeah it is very very hard. but the one thing that i do know is that these places are literally dens of lone wolves. the number of kill there's come out of these places is very high. there have been several mass shootings. in kansas last year by a white supremacist. a skinhead who shot up a sikh temple. these environments soar toxic they turn out killers at rates that are higher than other things. >> thank you very much to all of you. more breaking news coming up. we're getting new information
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we're following breaking news. the suspect in that church massacre captured in north carolina being returned tonight to south carolina. that's where police believe 21-year-old dylann roof shot and killed nine people at a bibl study at a historic african-american church in charleston in what's being investigated as a hate crime. president obama's calling the deaths "senseless murders." >> i've had to make statements like this too many times. communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times. we don't have all the facts, but we do know that once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. >> let's go to our senior white house correspondent jim acosta. >> reporter: we should point out in the last several minutes the white house says this afternoon president obama spoke by phone aboard air force one with south
carolina governor nikki haley and the state's two senators lindsey graham and tim scott. the president's biggest call of the day, somewhat surprising was to ask the country to take a second look at gun control. the president and vice president we should note this was something unusual about this mass shooting they both knew one of the victims. the pastor of the church where this rampage occurred the south carolina state senator clemente pinckney. mr. obama has spoken out on mass shootings at least 14 times during his presidency from ft. hood to tucson aurora oak creek, newtown, the navy yard in the nation's capital. the killings in charleston mr. obama said should serve as yet another wakeup call to the nation. >> at some point we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. it doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency.
and it is in our power to do something about it. i say that recognizing the politics in this town. foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. but it would be wrong for us not to acknowledge it. >> the president was acknowledging the political realities in washington after the mass shooting at the sandy hook elementary in 2012. the president pushed for a measure that would have required universal background checks, closing the local hopes of sales of firearms at gun shows and online. after a massive lobbying effort by the nra that proposal was defeated. the president has not attempted gun control in congress ever since. the white house said today, the president is not likely to try for it again during his remaining time in office. aides to the president say at this point he has exhausted all
of the executive actions that he can muster on gun control and wolf as one official put it earlier today, we're very realistic about the political realities. they would like to get gun control done they know they just can't do it. >> jim acosta thanks very much. more now with the president of the national urban league mark moriel. where does the national urban league stand on this issue of gun control? >> we are strong supporters of what i like to call gun safety. i think what we're talking about is some specific things. a stronger background check law. something without loopholes. something that prevents people who might have a criminal background. people who may have a mental problem from possessing and owning handguns. secondly safe storage laws which place a responsibility on parents, on others to store a weapon if they rightfully own a weapon. we ought to talk about the specifics. i like to say it's gun safety
because the objective here is safety to keep communities safe. now, wolf this is a malice killing. this is a slaughter. but we've had 78 mass killings in the united states since the 1980s. with 600 people losing their lives. when is enough enough? when is enough enough and requires us indeed to act? we have 16,000 homicides each year in the united states. that would fill up most professional basketball or hockey arenas. of those, 70% take place because of a firearm. today, with this tragedy, we want to hear leaders from all walks of life speak out against hate. hate speak hate crimes hate actions. we need those who are willing, not just those of us who speak
out customarily on these, but elected officials, religious leaders from all denominations. today it's african-americans who are the victims of a hate crime or a mass killing. in the past we have seen kindergarten children. we've seen people in a movie theater. we've seen people in a sikh temple because the victims of these types of killings. so it's time i think for us to muster up the moral courage to recognize that we do not and we should not have a nation that tolerates these sorts of mass killings and a nation that's not going to tolerate 16,000 people dying of homicides each and every year with 70% of them being conducted with handguns. so i just think, wolf today it's an unspeakable tragedy. we share the grief and the pain and the suffering of the people in that community. the people of that state. and of course the ame church a
historic church. >> are they safe? >> everyone has to be vigilant. there's in our heart of hearts and hope that this was a lone wolf acting alone. we have to be concerned about the presence of organized hate groups. one of your previous guests talks about that. they have doubled in number in the last 20 years. one cannot be blind. people have to be vigilant have to be careful, have to be aware. but a church synagogue, a mosque it's a house of worship. it's a place where people go to share the word of peace. >> would you agree -- a lot of viewers are tweeting me telling me this is not simply a hate -- an act of hate or a mass murder it's an act of terror.
do you agree? >> i think we have to understand that it is an act of what we might call domestic terrorism. and maybe the classification and the line we have drown between classifying something as a hate crime and classifying something as a terrorist incident may be as people understand it -- this is very similar. it's the same. the law may treat it differently. wolf when nine people in a church nine innocent people praying to the god that they believe in and worship -- when they have invited an individual in who pretends to be a friend and then carries out an act like this this is an act of intent. it's with malice. it's with forethought. we have to call it what it is. i remember when the oklahoma city bombing took place some 20
years ago. it was immediately classified if you will as an act of domestic terrorism. maybe we have to look at these in that way. maybe it will trigger a more concerted effort in this country to root out these hate groups. we don't know today whether this young man was influenced by these hate groups. but the idea that he had the south african apartheid flags on his chest displaying them to me is a sign that he may have had some influence, is some place, somewhere on line. >> where he got the flags is a suggest of intrigue and importance. thanks very much. >> thank you, wolf. we're getting new information coming out tonight about the church massacre the 21-year-old suspect. more on the breaking news when we come back.
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♪ >> reporter: located less than a mile from the slave market and established in 1816 deep in the slavery years, emanuel has always been more than a place of worship. as the oldest african methodist episcopal church in the south, it's a living testament to the trial of black america. here one of the church founders tried to organize a slave rebel rebellion almost 200 years ago to see the church burned to the ground when it was discovered.lleged plotters were arrested. here slaves were helped on their journey north. here martin luther king junior invited those to march. through it all, emanuel has been a leading force for a.m.e. churches and outspoken leaders. >> people like rowsa parks
belonged. >> our freedom house. >> reporter: this man is dean at the howard university. he said emanuel led the way by being a place where african-american politicians, leaders, organizers teachers and more could find acceptance when they were barred from so much of america. >> you know that you will come there unfiltered. you will come there without rekrim nation made against you. so no matter the disparages of the largest social order, you come here and you can learn how to be as fully human as you are. >> that's what oohemanuel meant? >> yes. part that was meant the affirming of every person who cops s comes within and those in the communities around us. >> reporter: eemanuel has been
attribute visited by this. >> well said. thanks very much. that's it for me. thanks for watching. coverage of the deadly church shooting in charlton continues with erin burnett "out front." breaking news. stunning 1rid ingning video of the shooter sitting in a bible study. the suspect 21-year-old dylann roof at this moment under arrest in flight to south carolina where he will face charges. that flight will land at any moment. we will bring that to you lineve. will he face the death penalty. the manhunt for two prison workers. let's go "out front."