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capitol for more than 50 years. the bill made it past the state senate earlier this week landed in the state house of reps where the final vote was 94-20, above the two thirds majority sneaded to make it to the desk of the republican governor. let's turn straight to our reporters in south carolina. alina machado is set the scene for us. what are you seeing for us so far? >> reporter: this place is gathered with people gathered to witness this firsthad historic moment a moment that some here in south carolina would say has been in the works for decades. what we are about to see take place here in south carolina is the product of republicans and democrats working together to remove this confederate battle flag. you can see there are already people gathered here waiting for the governor to walk outside and sign this bill into law. as you mentioned, this flag has
been flying on state capitol grounds here in south carolina since the 1960s. for several decades. in 2000 it was moved from the dome over to its current location and that was a compromise. today this will all change jake. today is the day that south carolina will be officially removing that flag at least on paper, the actual removal of the flag jake is expected to take place tomorrow. sinchts nick valencia who is standing outside the memorial where the flag still waves, this is a move being made despite public opinion in south carolina and nationally not because of it. cnn reporting and cnn polling, rather shows that more than 50% of the american people still see that flag as a symbol of heritage not of hate but a significant percentage in the united states does see it as a symbol of slavery and racism.
>> it's a monumental day here let's make no mistake about it. it's one that people have come not just far and wide across the state, but across the united states to witness. i was just talking to a family from maryland who showed up here today, because they were under the impression that the flag was going to be removed today, and they say they wanted to come to see it before it was taken down. you mentioned that so many people here in the united states they believe that this is a symbol of southern heritage of pride. i was talking to one supporter who said to him it doesn't symbolize racism or hatred. for him it represents his ancestors he said faul fought against a northern-invading army. even still, there's the general consensus here in the state this is an ugly part of history in the south, this represents a very painful part and those who believe it should fly are having a selective reading of history. it's divided the community. you can still see behind she some holdouts some believe it
should fly, others celebrating the historic decision after 13 hours of an exhaustive debate by lawmakers, and we cannot forget what happened to make this moment possible, that accelerated the debate the nine innocent victims being shot and killed at the historic a.m.e. church. that led to this moment you are witnessing today. jake? >> that's exactly right. we should note that the racist killer who attacked the church alina machado, he changed the debate. he wanted to have a race war. he didn't get a race war, but by appears in pictures with the symbol of race form as he saw it of white supremacy as he saw it the confederate battle flag he changed the debate not the way he wanted to. alina, you're inside the state capitol right now. a lot of people there have been fighting to get this flag taken down since 1961 when the democratic governor earnest
collins first put it up in the centennial celebration. probably a lot of them thought they would never see this day. >> it's funny you mentioned that. i spoke with a representatives, who was very, very outspoken last night. she told me she said i never thought this day would come. people are towarding to cheer. it looks like we're just a few moments away from this historic moment but this is a moment jake that definitely a lot of people here in south carolina never thought they would see, this representative in particular told me that she never thought she would see it in her lifetime. you can imagine the types of emotions that must be coming through her mind as she's waiting for the governor to come out and sign this bill into law. >> nick valencia one of the things that's so interesting serb is that governor hallie? no it is not. one of the things that's interesting, nick is after the photograph of the racist killer came out with him and the confederate flag, and there was
a groundwell by -- what happened was the three leading republican officials in the state, governor nikki haley and senators tim scott and lindsey graham all three republican they bound together and they decided they were going to support it. it was almost as if the removal of the flag was a forgone conclusion though of course there was very intense and serious debate by the state senate and the state house, nick valencia. >> reporter: you saw republicans that were going to have to go back and face some very tough criticism, those sticking their necks out for this vote. it's not a vote of political convenience, but a vote of convictions, a vote that people wanted to see happen. there was immense public pressure for this to happen. just a few months ago, the conversations were happening monday the public. this was a gubernatorial candidate who ran largely on a
platform to take down the flag he ended up losing to governor nikki haley. just a few months ago, not mentioning support for stealing down the flag and it wasn't until we saw those images emerge of the shooter, that you saw a lot of politicians here in this state, and beyond the state of south carolina really dig deep into their convictions, into their souls, i should say, and make this vote happen. we saw a lengthy legislative process. the time line that we were given, some lawmakers were saying this could have taken a month, others were saying this was a filibuster by amendment p todd rutherford he was saying let's make no mistake about it this was a filibuster by amendment. every representative had an opportunity to introduce an amendment, and we saw more than 26 of them introduced even still, they stayed here for 13 hours at 1:00 in the morning. that's when that final vote
came an overwhelming vote, both in the senate 36-3 vote there in the senate in the house of representatives saw 94 representatives in the how here give their support. i don't think that's something you would have seen just a few months ago, jake. if you're just joining us we are rating for the governor nikki haley to come out and sign the legislation that would remove the confederate battle flag from the state capitol grounds. we will bring that to you live. you are looking at live pictures from the chambers. alina machado, where is the flag going to go? and when is it going to be taken down? >> reporter: so our understanding is that tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. there will be a ceremony to remove the flag from its current flag. once it's removed from there, eventually they will take down nonthe flag but the flagpole and fencing.
once that's done it will go to a museum. the confederate relic room that's also here in columbia south carolina. we know there is a joint resolution that was brought to the house floor yesterday, last night, in that joint resolution it's supposed to go into more detail what they're going to do with the flag and making sure the museum gets guidance and funding to take care of the flag. that resolution is still in the house, and it's expected to make its way to the senate and eventually turn into manage that could guide the museum in terms of how to handle that flag jake. >> my understanding is that it's specifically going to go to the confederate relic room and military museum as you mentioned, which is a few blocks away from the statehouse a museum founded in 1896 which focuses on south carolina's military history from the revolutionary war until the present, not only the museum
itself focused on the confederate cause. nick valencia you mentioned the deep emotions. one of the south carolina republican legislators with whom i spoke acknowledged that it took the event, the terrorist attack the racist terrorist attack at mother emanuel for him to see the flag through the eyes of those who have been calling for it to be taken down for so long and it sounds as though that was the prevailing feeling among most of the members of the south carolina statehouse and state senate. >> we saw a microcosm of that last night when representative jenny horn took the floor, and she teared up. she couldn't contain her emotion. she herself is a distant relative of the former president of the confederacy jefferson davis. a lot of people here see that moment on the house floor as a turning point for so many here. we want to play part of that
statement she made on the house floor late last night. >> i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday! >> strong words from republican representative jenny horn who took to the floor last night and addressed her colleagues. some people were grabbing tissues after that speech. we saw her today as well and she was still teary-eyed from what happened that raw emotion still very apparent and evident on her face. this has been a different decision for a lot of lawmakers here jake also a dangerous one. you know we have spoke to the south carolina law enforcement division. they told us a handful of representatives were getting death threats because of their position on this. i saw some of those letters that
were being sent to these representatives here and senators. they were very ugly words that cannot be repeated on television certainly words i don't want to repeat but it was a difficult decision for a lot of people and a dangerous one, one that was a security situation at times. that cannot be underscored enough. this is an emotional thing, one that a lot of people are still holding on to. you can see some of the holdouts here. the crowd you are looking at there right now is the biggest crowd we have seen all day. we have seen that one individual with a conned rat flag and the u.s. flag upsidedown all morning long. he's been joined by a few others and you can see a crowd forming, there are some state troopers. we've seen a large presence because of a security situation. i understand now the governor nikki haley may be approaching. >> she is coming into the room. let's take a listen.
>> everybody around us i mean that's the first thing i want you to take in. just look at the shot. can you all hear me on the mike? press guys? are we good? 1, 2, 3? 1, 2, 3? we good? can the tv guys hear? i will yell as loud as i can. so you know it's hard for us to look at what is happening today and not think back to 22 days ago. it seems like so long ago. because the grieves has been so hard. but at the same time we have all
been struck by what was a tragedy we didn't think we would ever encounter. nine amazing people that forever changed south carolina's history. having said that i have to acknowledge the series of events that took place through all of this. because it is the true story of south carolina the actions that took place are what will go down in the history books. nine people took in someone that did not look like them or act like them and with true love and true faith and true acceptance they sat and prayed with him for an hour. that love and faith was so strong that it brought grace to
their families. it showed them how to forgive. so then we saw the action of forgiveness. we saw the family show the world what true forgiveness and grace looked like. that forgiveness and grace set off another action an action of compassion by people all across south carolina and all across this country. they stopped looking at each other's differences. they started looking at each other's similarities because we were all experiencing the same pain. so then you take that compassion and that compassion motivated action. that compassion motivated people wanting to do something about it. so the action was taken by the general assembly and what we saw in that swift action by both the house and senate was we saw
members start to see what it was like to be in each other's shoes, start to see what it felt like. we heard about the true honor of heritage and tradition. we heard about the true pain that many had felt and we took the time to understand it. i saw passions get hot. i saw passions get low, but i saw commitment neverending, and so we saw was another action and that action is that the confederate flag is coming off the grounds of the south carolina statehouse. [ applause ] so tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. we will see the confederate flag come down. we are a state that believes in
tradition. we are a state that believes in history. we have a state that believes in respect. so we will bring it down with dignity, and we will make sure it's put in its rightful place, but this is a story about action. this is a story about the history of south carolina and how the action of nine individuals laid on this long chain of events that forever showed the state of south carolina what love and forgiveness looks like. i will tell you that now this is about our children because when they go back and look he history books, while we're still grieving and the grieving is going to last for a long time when the emotions start to fade the history of the actions that took place by everyone in south carolina to get us to this moment is one that we can all be proud of. so 22 days ago i didn't know
that i would ever be able to say this against, but today i am very proud to say that it is a great day in south carolina. [ applause ] so with that we don't want to wait any longer, we are now going to sign the bill. so i want to say it is with great pride that i am surrounded by members of the emanuel nine family. i want to thank them for taking the time to come. i'm also surrounded by former governors who put their name on a letter put their support together to say, yes, while we have been a part of south
ant to also acknowledge these nine pens are going to each of the nine families of the emanuel nine. [ cheers and applause ] may we never forget the actions that those people took to get us to this point today. and then i've got a couple other pens. many people have talked about the courage that took place by so many across this state, but one person started this almost
two decades ago, and that was governor david beasley. the last time i saw him, i said you started it and he said well, i need you to finish it. [ applause ] and the second one was someone who also understands what this can feel like what intentioning can feel like what it means to do something. he is the person that brought of confederate flag off the dome. i want to thank you for all that you have done in terms of support and all that you have down for south carolina in the past. >> thank you, governor. and these two are for me so with that i will tell you thank you very much. thank you for making it another great day in south carolina. we are now looking forward to
the future and the future of our children. thank you very much. god bless you. an historic day in south carolina as republican governor nikki haley signs legislation to bring down the northern virginia battle flag more commonly known as the confederate battle flag from the capitol grounds. it all started 22 days ago with the racist terrorist attack governor haley making a point she will give nine of the pens used to sign legislation to the families of the mother emanuel nine. let us take a moment to give their names -- read their names. honorable klemma pinkney, also a state senator, reverend daniel simmons, coleman single done. depayne middleton-doctor. suzie hurd tywanza sanser erer erer
sanders, sharonda and myra thompson. let's bring in senator john scott and bacardi sellers, a contributor and previously served in south carolina's house of representatives. mr. sellers, let me start with you. what does that event -- what will the removal of the flag tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., what will it mean to you? >> well, it means a great deal. i'm trying to gather my words as we go because of the heroes and she-roes that lifted their voted and gave their lives so i could be here today. it didn't start with legislators like myself but started with legislators like john scott standing to my right. cape hatter son, so many of those who marched before us to take this flag down. now we can come together, plaque and white, democrat and republican to remove this flag imagine what we can come together and do next. that is the vision that is the
hope. this flag is not the end of anything. it's just the beginning of another amazing journey we'll take in south carolina. >> mr. scott, are you surprised how quickly -- i guess quickly is the wrong word gin that people having trying to get it down since governor hollings put it up in 1961. but are you surprised recently? >> no i'm not. given what has happened beginning with the families on june 17th and watching system system come together with members above the house and the senate saying we've had enough of this kind of behavior in south carolina. we understand that the flag coming down has its own responsibility. there's a tremendous price, a lot of us have paid in the past for it and going forward it will have a lot of great responsibility for us to learn how to work together learn how to take care of a lot of issues
that affect carolinians' jobs economic development, health care so many issues. i'm just really happy about this beginning, but i don't want this beginning to just be a one-time beginning. i want us to really especially the state senate to focus on real issues that help system system as we move away from those issues that have divided us let us find common ground to take care of those south carolinians who really need to do a lot of good things for. >> all right. state senator john escort into khari sellers, former state representative and cnn contributor, thank you both. we'll have a lot more later. but let's turn to other national news. u.s. officials admitting just how close terrorists came to striking inside the u.s. some attacks were apparently thwarted at the very last minute. that story is next.
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welcome back to "the lead." a chilling discovery about just how close terrorists linked to isis may have come to pulling off a terrorist attack. police and federal officials ramped up security of course after that bulletin went out warning of potential attacks tied to independence day and coinciding with the holy month of ramadan. now cnn is being told that multiple law enforcement foiled several possibilities. according to the fbi, jim, how close did the suspects get to actually carrying out these attacks? >> we know it's days or week because is the fbi director comey said they made ten arrests in the last four weeks, some
tied to isis and some to the fourth of july hold day. it explaining that level of alert. and what i'm told they still have at the likely attempt of a -- so that threat remains. >> jim scuitto, thanks so much. i want to bring in the chaim of the michael mccaul. thank you, chairman manage callccaul. >> i was in new york meeting with counter terrorism officials. we had several arrests, one in boths, north carolina but more major arrest in new york that we believe led to a cell that we disrupted and thwarted that plot. as you know the fourth of july weekend was of high concern to counter-terrorism officials including myself. i think that the fbi and homeland security and nypd and
new jersey police departments did a fantastic job stopping what could have been a disaster. >> as far as you know were any of these attacks imminent? >> i think that the new york/new jersey cell was the one we were most concerned about in terms of explosive devices. remember the -- the threat here or the internet communications from overseas to potential operatives in the united states and i think we were concerned at the time and we were able to stop it would be persons with explosive devices at fourth of july parades perhaps next to military officials. i tell you what this is a good news story, jake. a lot of times we talk about the threat and how scary it is but this is where law enforcement worked. >> are these instances of self-radicalized lone wolves? or are they people that were actually being told by isis to do certain things? >> it's a combination.
you have the lone wolf self-radicalizing, but remember at the same time i think the greatest threat to the homeland right now are these internet missives coming out of syria by these operatives telling them to attack military installations, to attack police officers and i think the greatest threat over the fourth of july were to attack parades. the great news is that it went by without incident and we feel very fortunate, but as your commentator made we're still in the holiday season of ramadan, which is important to them and we're still in a bit of a high state of the alert. >> we heard from the fbi director james comey about how tech companies have been reluctant to give national security and law enforcement what is called back-door access to this -- these encrypted communications. you and i have spoken about this on the show before. you think that is something that the fbi, the nsa should have
something with which they can be trusted access to these encrypted communications? >> well you know what's happening is they're able to communicate what we call dark web space, right? you have thinks isis individuals in syria talking to americans, followers in the united states over twitter accounts and if we can't see those communications that's a threat to the homeland. i think the solution as the director mentioned yesterday, i think very skillfully is that it's got to be more technology-based. so we want to protect the privacy of americans, but el also want to look at a solution somewhere technology companies can basically shine a light on the darkness of these communications of eye says operatives talking to people in the united states. right now, if they're in dark platforms, we cannot follow what they're saying and therefore we can't fully stop terrorist plots. >> all right. chairman michael mccaul, thank you for your typhoon.
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like put together by the national centers for missing and exploited -- shows baby dough this photo and an earlier version have been circulated viewed online more than 40 -- yet her real name her aim, all of it remains a mystery at least osksly one out there knows who she is. that's what police want to know. her name. her image is hauntic hearts her name is unknown. the mystery, how a little girl's body was found on the boston harbor shoreline and how no one
has stepped forward. >> i think we all can agree she is precious and she deserves the dignity of a funeral. >> police call her a baby doe. a picture shows what she may have a 4 years old with big brown eyes polka-dot leggings and a zebra striped blanket, her body discarded, in a trash bag, a place where wastewater is treat the just east of the logan airport. >> please step forward, clear your conscience no child, no person deserves to be discarded at the same time i do worry there may by other children in this home that need our attention and our protection. >> online tens of millions are sharing her story, sharing their grief, and searching for answers. an early flood of tips suggested she could be a 3 years old who
went missing in west virginia in 2011. police have since ruled that out. the national center for missing and exploited children still poring off their data. >> with in a information, we're going out and checking on the welfare of a lot of children. i think there have been 24 welfare checks on children mo resembled baby doe. police isn't said precisely how s. toxicology tests will show in she was -- no visible signs of trauma. 3 1/2 feet tall weighing just 30 pounds. >> along with all the tips that have been coming in there have been countless offers to help funeral homes, churches individuals offering to provide burial service, but jake what authorities are focused on now is finding out who was responsible for this little girl. you heard the d.a. say it's
imperative. it's a tragic and heartbreaking story. let's talk more about this with john walsh. you helped create the national center for missing and exploited children after the death of your then 6-year-old son adam. the organization created this computer-generated image of baby doe. it's fairly descript inch with her hairline and facial structure. how accurate have these printouts proven to be in the past? >> the center is very good at making thinks printouts, and they have been very accurate. we've covered kids alive from computer aging and age enhancement done by the national center. i think when we find owl, it will be pretty uncanny. jake i've learned over the 25
years of doing "america's most wanted" and doing this last year on "the hunt" people don't want to call police. so i'm saying somebody knows who this little girl is. if you're not comfortable in calling massachusetts state police or the fbi, the marshals call me. i've caught 1400 bad guys on "america's most wanted" five last year on "the hunt." call me. go to my website, or cnn.com/thehunt. we don't care about your name maybe you're somebody who soon be in the country, but you know who this girl is and are afraid of retribution. call crimestoppers in the boston area if you're afraid to go to the police. we need to find out who this little girl is and what if she has siblings who is in harm's way? we need to find out who she is and find out who threw her away
like a piece of garb an. >> and 1-866-the-unit to talk to john walsh. do they kinds of cases, are they easy to break today with social media? or are they tougher because of increased number of leads, most of which don't end up being accurate? >> no i do think it's easier jake. i think it's easier with social media. we've had great success on our website. people really really care it's a way to get involved, and with the new technology with the new tools that the national center for missing and exploited children are using, i think it's easier now. it's just they're so traumatic, so tough, and i did several cases on "america's most wanted" that we never really found the parents. we never found who killed that child. so those are the most heartbreaking, the ones that disturb the public but the outcry to find out who this little girl is unbelievable.
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welcome back to "the lead." our politics lead is donald trump having something of a disagreement with the republican national party? it started with his announcement speech when he said this -- >> when mexico sends its people they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some i assume are good people. >> some are good people. his characterization of undocumented mexican in immigrants has been called racist and wrong and now the republican national committee is getting involved and may be asking him if he can be a little less you know donald trump-y. joe johns joins me. >> you know trump has been
dominating the news cycle with interview after interview. now there are mixed messages about whether the chairman of the republican national committee asked him to tone down his rhetoric. it comes a few couple days ahead of an expected visit by trump to the state of arizona, which has been ground zero in the debate over immigration. one call two very different stories, donald trump pushing back against reports that reince priebus asked him to back off his rhetoric. >> no we didn't discuss it. he did say perhaps you could tone it down a little bit if that's possible but i know it's your personality and you are who you are, but that's the way it is. >> reporter: trump says the call was quick and positive. >> it was a very brief call a very nice call more the a congratulatory call than anything else. >> reporter: but a republican source tense cnn tells dana bash that they spoke about a range of
issues and about the damage he's doing to the republican brand. >> they're bringing drugs, they're rapists and some are good people. >> according to the source priebus said, look i gotta tell you, i've spent four years masse inroads. how we address immigration is very important to winning back hispanics reply kale. >> lindsey graham agreed in an interview with jake tapper. >> my party is in a hole with hispanics. the first rule of politics when you're in a hole is stop digging. somebody need to take the shovel out of the donald trump's hands. >> meanwhile trump not backing down in an bur view with cnn wednesday. >> we bring them back and they push them out. mexico pushes back people across the border that are criminals, that are drug dealers. >> reporter: trump's defense comes as protesters defend on the site of his news washington, d.c. hotel, just blocks from the
white house. trump told cnn's anderson cooper he could not guarantee all his employees are in the country legally. after "the washington post" reported some workers at his d.c. hotel acknowledged they were undocumented. >> i can't guarantee it. how can anyone? we have 34 million in the country. >> the real fallout at the hotel in d.c. has more to do with his business partners on the project who are backing out. the latest one to do so is jeffrey sa carian the culinary director of the plaza hotel in new york which trump used to own but sold to a business group from india. sa zakarian said his statements don't align with his person core values and wasn't able to move forward. thank you, joe johns. coming up how much water does it take to maintain the greatest moustache in television his toy?
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in another district. according to the complaint filed month, the district constituent $22,000 on an investigate to investigate the man who played a p.i. on tv. cnn did reach out, his representatives were told if any comments would be made. we will check back. check out our show page for video and extras. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper turning you over to brianna keilar filling in for wolf blitzer in "the situation room." \s. happening now, terror plots foiled. u.s. officials say multiple attacks were thwarted but it's too soon to breathe a sigh of relief and it's a chilling new threat. number one threat. the general not nated as joint chiefs chairman says the greatest challenge so u.s. security is