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boys that they can dream about wanting to have a goal to be in a sport and to do something and then when you write it down take that dream, write it down on a piece of paper, it becomes a goal. and i think having all of this publicity with it and for the world to see it much less all the united states it gives us all a belief that we can have a dream come true. >> amen. i love seeing those. appreciate it. breaking news here at cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. this is what we're learning out of south carolina now. three weeks after that massacre inside that historic black
church the confederate flag and the flagpole, ceremony yously removed. as this was happening, the fbi was owning up to a potentially tragic mistake in all of this. here's what we know. it turns out that shooter, dylann roof should never have been able to buy that gun in the first place. a paperwork mixup allowing him to buy the weapon he used to murder nine innocent church goers. let me bring in first, pamela brown, our justice correspondent, the fbi director james comey saying quote, we are all sick this happened. how did this happen? >> the fact that the man who confessed to ungunning down the nine people inside the south
carolina church the director said basically it's the fbi's fault. there were a series of errors he talked about and all started with the background check system. a clerical error in the background check system and confusion with the paperwork. so bottom line here brooke is that the fbi examiner doing the paperwork never made the discovery that they admitted to columbia police that he had possessed drugs. had the examiner made that discovery, dylann roof would have been denied the ability to purchase the gun. he wouldn't have passed a background check. bottom line the fbi examiner did not make contact with the columbia police department who arrested him late february because of a series of errors that the director talked about, not just with the fbi but also in the system itself. as you know the fbi runs a background system but there were issues with the way that the
police department reported the arrest and so forth. so it was really a combination, as he said of improbable factors that came together that led to this really devastating result here. we asked him today, when did he come to this conclusion because you may remember before the fbi had said that nothing was done improper with the background check. so this is obviously a contradiction of that. director comey said after reviewing all of the facts, he reached this conclusion and wanted to own up to it and talked to reporters. he's ordered a 30-day review to make sure this never happens again. brooke? >> this bombshell leaves more questions. we know you'll be asking them. pamela brown, thank you. >> thank you. turning back to this major moment this morning, the confederate flag being removed at the statehouse in south carolina. not everyone has happy to see it going. some turned their backs in protest. most of all, people were there
cheering and singing "god bless america." after the ceremony here folks started tweeting their reaction to this moment including president barack obama who tweeted this. south carolina taking down the confederate flag a symbol of goodwill and healing and a meaningful step towards a better future. let's go to my colleague don lemon who is in columbia south carolina. you were there for the removal this morning. but we have to talk about this big interview. the governor of south carolina. >> yes. >> what did nikki haley tell you? >> and we'll talk about that. that's why i said and friend. because we are friends and i wish i could have shared this moment with all of my friends.
but this was a moment for america, especially sons and daughters of the south, for people who have been under the oppressive flag for all of their lives. that's why i said and friend. i wanted to share that with you, brooke because it was moving. and look behind me. it's gone. the flagpole is gone. it's gone and they just removed the pole just moments ago. and so i would say it's the end of an era and the beginning of another era, not only for the south but for the united states of america. and that's what i spoke to the governor about who said that she's a changed person as well and she talked to me about growing up here in the south. take a listen. so governor, you will remember where you were on july 10th 2015. you presided over history. what does that mean to you? >> you know this is a surreal moment standing out there and watching that flag come down it felt like the biggest weight was lifted off the state.
it just felt so -- it's like the state it's a true new day in south carolina. it feels like a new day in south carolina. >> you have said this -- and i don't know if this is the exact words but you evolved on this you said i think it takes a big person to change their mind. >> first of all, south carolina very much respects history and tradition and so the flag has just always been up there. when i came into office to have a two-thirds vote threshold was a huge one and it's not a republican, democrat white, black, there hadn't been a bill filed to take that flag down since 2007. there was so much of a divide and compromise that no one wanted to talk about it. so it was almost like people just assumed that it was going to be there. >> you've used the words in the signing of this bill tradition, history, respect and love and
forgiveness. it has to have been hard to strike a balance because not everyone was on the side that you were on. >> it's important for people to know what it's like to be in each other's shoes. that's what happened. they understood what the respect of tradition and heritage was and that it wasn't about hate. but, the other side also learned how painful that flag was and the pain that it was causing people. that's what brought south carolina to this new day, the ability to look at each other and listen and say it's time. >> you're an immigrant, your family you grew up here. >> born and raised in south carolina. the daughter of -- >> does that mean more to you, does it make you more connected to this issue? do you have a special feeling about it? >> you know we grew up an indian family in south carolina. my father wears a turbine. it was hard growing up in south carolina. but what i've always been proud
of and what i worked for is to make sure that today is better than yesterday and that my kids don't go through what we went through and now i feel good because now i know my kids can look up and there won't be a flag and there will be more reasons. i needed to see it one last time. i wanted to remember the moment. so much of this has been a whirlwind and it's been extremely emotional. i just needed to see what was about to happen. >> this flag went up in 1962 correct? do you think it was a sort of poke in the eye to the civil rights movement? >> you know i'm not going to try and figure out why people did what they did. i think the more important part is it just never should have been there and i think that even when it was on the grounds of
the statehouse it was right in front. and these grounds are a place that everybody should feel a part of. and these grounds are a place that should be -- that belong to the people of south carolina. and what i have realized now more than ever is people were driving by and they felt hurt and pain. no one should feel pain. you know we can have our disagreements and we can have our policy back and forth but no one should feel pain over something, not over a symbol. >> 57% of americans view the flag as a symbol of southern pride and not racism. is that surprising to you? >> no. because a lot of the people -- and if you had heard the debate in the statehouse so many look at it as honoring ancestors who fought and died for their state. that's the way they look at it. you look at people and this really is confederate proponents they are not haters. you've got people who will hijack it. >> who use the flag as a symbol of hate. >> right. but what we have to remember is
that people are using it as a symbol of hate and it's something that causes people pain. because it's a reminder of a time that was painful. so what we have to do is remind the pro confederate citizens look, we're not trying to take away your heritage or the family members that sacrificed. what we are trying to do is not give people reason to hurt and we are all responsible for that. we all have to play a role in that. >> you're a public servant. >> uh-huh. >> most people realize that the flag is just a piece of cloth but did represent to a lot of people pain and hurt. the way to continue i've heard people say, the legacy or continue the legacy of clementa pinckney and for the issues that he fought for, how will you do that? >> i want to really focus on education. you know you're going to see me with anti-bullying tours through schools and now i want to talk about race and why we took the
flag down and the emanuel 9. it's important for children to understand why they are still pure the goodness of all of that. but, you know there are going to be other things. deserves education and get one. we were the first state in the country to put in a body cam bill. >> you're going to talk about race now. are you taking race as part of your platform? is that going to be part of your platform now? >> this should not be one day in time. this should be the start of a conversation which is why south carolina handled it that way and did not protest. what made south carolina so special across this country that people said wow, i want those kids to know that because
they've got to carry that on. they now have to carry that forward. >> as you're out there today, you went up and stood over the capitol this morning, the statehouse and you were with those families and hearing people yelling, bring down this flag it's got to go what are you thinking as a person who is leading this ceremony? >> my thought was, i hope this gives the family as little bit of peace. that's always been my prayer, that it gives them peace and allows our state to heal and i hope the grief of this tragedy is going to last for a really long time. i don't see it going away anytime soon. >> giving a shout out from the president of the united states nationally in a eulogy, are you concerned about that in a solidly red state? >> no i don't worry about that.
the act of bringing the flag down was not a democrat or republican thing, a black or white thing. you wouldn't have divided it along party lines. people who wanted the flag down were all types of people. young, old, so many wanted to see this happen. what i hope is that this happening in south carolina sets the tone for the country, which is a tone of be kinder than necessary. let's do more for each other. let's not always fight over everything. thank you very much. >> interesting. republican governor here talking about, brooke making race -- having a conversation about race as part of her platform. also echoing the sentiments of many people around the country and also former president bill clinton saying that the people of south carolina came together black, white, different ethnicities and background and religions, different political parties coming together to get something accomplished and
that's what they did. you know you don't -- i'm not an easy one to pull the wool over my eyes. i know people. and i can tell when they are not being honest and being disingenuous. i really do feel that the governor is a changed person because of the shootings, because of the deaths and also because of how people came together here and also having to stand up to her own party for something that she feels strongly about. >> what an interview. what a month for the state of south carolina. and really the nation. don lemon, my friend, thank you. next after one of the worst data breaches in u.s. history, a major resignation today amid a cloud of controversy. we'll get reaction from the white house. also an investigation after the pilot of a major airline allegedly tried to flush bullets down the airplane toilet
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that is more than five times the original amount reported. house speaker boehner said he had no confidence in archuleta repairing the problem but the white house stood by her until this afternoon. >> director archuleta did offer her resignation today. she did so of her own volition. she recognizes as the white house does the current crisis requires a manager with a specialized set of skills and experiences. that's precisely why the president has accepted her resignation. >> let me bring in evan perez. really my question yesterday, the white house was standing by her and clearly today that changed. >> exactly 24 hours ago archuleta was on a conference call with reporters saying she wasn't going to design and the white house told me late last
night that they were standing behind her. so today what changed was simply the fact that the facts were getting problematic for both the white house and archuleta. questions were beginning to be raised how does someone -- her previous job was a political director for the president's re-election campaign. how does she go from that job to this job at opm, with i is in charge of safeguarding the most sensitive personnel records that the u.s. government owns. speaker of the house and even democrats were asking for her to go. the facts are ugly on this one, brooke. 22.1 million people were affected including 21.5 million background checks 4.2 million people were affected in a secondary breach and really the other thing here is that opm had plenty of warning. there were five hacks that opm
has suffered since the middle of 2012. there was plenty of notice that they had that they were troubled with their i.t. system and did not do enough to secure them. now you have all of these millions of people who entrusted the government with their most intimate secrets in order to get security clearance and be trusted with security secrets and they will be betrayed because the government did not protect their information. >> that's a lot of people. evan perez, thank you. next, we have to tell you this story about this pilot who allegedly tried to flush ammunition down a toilet of a plane. how this even got on board, why this is an issue. what will be done about it? next. also ahead, george w. bush and bill clinton appearing together on one stage. that's rare in itself. one brother, one wife running against each other for president in 2016 what these two said together on stage. we'll be back straight ahead with a marine who had the honor
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the defense has rested in the defense trial portion of the colorado trial of james holmes. they all believe holmes was so mentally ill that he could not distinguish right from wrong at the time of the shooting in aurora colorado. holmes admits to the shooting but was suffering a quote/unquote psychotic episode at the time. he's pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. closing arguments will begin next tuesday. and the tsa is investigating an incident where a united airlines captain reportedly flushed live ammunition down the toilet of an airplane. it was traveling from houston to
munich, germany. first he threw it in the trash and then a passenger found it and he flushed it down the toilet. government correspondent rene marsh is here to explain to me why was there live ammo on a plane, period? >> well brooke believe it or not, there are some pilots, including this captain, who are essentially authorized to carry a firearm and ammunition on board a flight. certain flights, though. after september 11th, there was this extra layer of security that was added, allowing pilots and flight crew who are trained by the tsa to carry guns on board flights but only flights within the united states. the purpose is to defend against hijackers, terrorists. but here's the butt and here's the problem. guns and ammo are not allowed on
international flights. there are different countries that have different gun laws and it just so happens germany has some of the strictest in europe and that was the problem for this captain who had ammo in his bag. investigators believe that perhaps he may have had this from a previous flight forgot and then tried to dispose of it. >> so if -- you know this is a total no-no in germany and he's chucking these bullets and still employed and it's just a mistake, might he face charges, or not? >> the tsa is looking into this. they could decide to hit the captain with a civil penalty or may even decide to strip him of his privilege to carry a gun and ammo on board. clearly he is not following what the rules are for whether he forgot or not. but the extent of this at and really speaks to intent. if they determine that this was
an honest mistake, he may not face any criminal charges. when he landed in germany, he self-reported to the authorities, he told them exactly what happened and that's when they were able to go ahead and retrieve those bullets. >> all right. rene marsh, thank you. next two former presidents in a unique show here on stage together. next hear from the marine who introduced them with a pretty impressive speech moments before they stood on stage. what the former presidents had to say about him. plus a family mixup that is just beyond mind boggling. two sets of twins split up and separated at birth but they didn't realize until they were in their 20s. how this whole thing came to light, next.
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stage in texas as you have jeb bush and hillary clinton about to go head to head here for 2016. last night, you had bill clinton and george w. bush uniting on the stage there in dallas. this friendly joint appearance came as hillary and jeb sparre on social media. this is all about bipartisanship and claiming that jeb and hillary would even get along. here is president bush. >> i know jeb and i'm confident secretary hillary will you know elevate the discourse. >> the former presidents were in dallas to promote their presidential leadership program and appeared to be having a lot of fun. it was one of the program's new graduates, a marine combat veteran, who provided the serious note talking about his country, why he chose to fight. he introduced them. take a listen. >> i chose to fight for that marine on my right and the marine on my left to make sure that i could get my brothers
home safely to the families i knew were waiting at home for them. second and perhaps more deeply i chose to fight for the idea that is america. the idea that is america. a nation that stands for the freedom of human rights and lasting meaningful choices for everyone. >> you know i know two people who are glad he's not running for president. [ laughter ] >> hey, that was my line. all right. i thought you all were -- >> glad he didn't run earlier. >> and now i have live the man himself, captain jake harriman founder of an organization helping people get lifted out of extreme poverty. thank you for your service and for joining me today.
>> thank you. it's a pleasure, brooke. >> before we get to the tlurs ofhrust of your message, when you heard two former presidents saying that they were glad you were not running for president, what were you thinking in that moment? >> i've got to say, that would be a humbling honor but i have my hands full trying to eradicate extreme poverty. >> what was your message on that stage about this country? >> i think our country is in a real crisis. we're at a crossroads right now and i think we have the opportunity to engage every day citizens to step up in leadership positions and heal the bipartisan rift tearing apart our nation today and the program that these two leaders are leading with is a great example of a program that can do that. >> you talk about leadership. i mean here you were introducing these two leaders, two commanders in chief of our
country and i'm wondering if you can just sort of peel back the curtain and take me backstage. was there a moment when you sort of met the two of them? what's stunning for so many people is what seemed like so so not a rivalry and almost a bromance between these two on stage. >> yeah. it was a special moment. i will tell you that after meeting both of them i was incredibly struck by exactly what you just said. these two are regular men. they are leader who is have led the free world but, at the end of the day, they are human beings who want to see our nation restored to the idea -- like i talked about last night, the idea that is america. we need to bring our nation back together again to take our place the way this nation used to be. >> and they really seemed to enjoy one another. >> they really do. you know it's actually -- at the end of the dinner one of the funniest things i saw was president bush got up to leave
with his wife and he hit president clinton on the shoulder and said hey, man, i'll see you later and president clinton turned around and said yeah i'll see you later george. they are two guys who are really close friends and i'm struck by that, that tlear ability to step across the aisle and really embrace each other and teach this nation how to heal that partisan rift. >> i know george w. bush talks a lot about his father george h.w. bush and how he really learned a lot about the importance of friendship from his dad. before i let you go you mentioned all of this wonderful work. can you just talk to me briefly about new river international? you all are helping lift 35 people out of poverty? it's phenomenal. >> 35,000. what did i say? forgive me. >> it's about 80,000 people permanently out of poverty. we have a big vision. we're trying to take this into the most worst and failed states in the world, as a new pathway for development to really stabilize some of the most
challenging countries in our world in a way to help restore a greater global security. it's a national security issue. >> captain jake harriman thank you for joining me. >> thank you. next, let me show you an image. you have these two sets of brothers. really they are identical twins on the left and on the right but they didn't grow up this way. it all traces back to this massive mixup at a hospital. how this all came to be and what it was like when they met for the first time. that's coming up. also firefighters about to enter this home when -- look at this -- massive explosion. this is what firefighters call a backdraft. i'll talk to the firefighter who was walking into that home right at the front door. don't miss this.
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two sets of identical twins share one incredible and perhaps unprecedented story. one brother from each set wound up going home with the wrong family. this happened when they were newborns. they all stayed at the same hospital in columbia. stay with me. carlos here went home with jorge and, in turn that meant their twins, william and wilbur then grew up together. they thought they were fraternal and not identical. this is a double case of switched at birth. a friend recorded the moment when one pair of identical twins met one another for the very first time. [ speaking in foreign language ]
ure versus nurture. with me now is the magazine's editor-in-chief jake silverstein. jake thank you for joining me and thank you for bringing fruit because we need visuals in this kind of story. this is a situation of two sets of twins separated and switched. >> that is right. it's very hard to follow. this story is confusing so i have found in explaining the story that a visual aid of some kind helps. and so you explained it pretty well with the photographs at the outset. you have two sets of identical twins, jorge and william, and they are born -- one thing you didn't get into is how different the environments were that they were born in.
they were born where they were supposed to be born in bogata in the city. these guys over here carlos and wilbur, from a rural part of colombia the house that they are from no running water or electricity. you have to walk through the mud to even get there for miles. they get switched like this and so these guys go home together and that's where our story kind of begins. >> i was going to get to fact that one set ended up at the rural farmland thinking they could have grown up and gone to school in bogata. >> right. >> this whole thing came to light as a total coincidence at a grocery store? >> that's right. what happened is these two guys -- the twins -- this is wilbur and this is william. and they are raised in the countryside. they moved to bogota. they both end up working as butchers in a grocery store in
bogota. jorge works at like a piping company. he works in the piping department of a natural gas company and somebody he works with goes into their butcher shop and ceasesees williams and says what are you doing? you work in piping? and he's like i'm william. and so to make a long story short -- because it's quite a long story -- >> "new york times" magazine. >> this sunday. they get a photograph of william, the butcher, and she brings it and shows it on her phone to jorge, her co-worker. he thinks that's crazy and they look at william's facebook profile and jorge sees on william's facebook profile that william has a brother that looks exactly like jorge's brother. >> oh my goodness. identical twin not just fraternal twin like i thought for my 20 something years of life. we showed the video and one was saying i don't know if i would
have rather found out this way or walking down the street and seeing the mirror image of myself. the other fascinating piece of this massive article is that about -- how did you phrase it to me? twins -- the twins research. and we talk a lot about nature versus nurture. the qualities are so similar even though they grew up so separately. >> this came to us from a woman named nancy seagul a researcher at cal state fullerton. she's written books not just on twin research and studies but reared apart twin studies. that is to say, twins -- identical twins raised apart and reunited to see how similar are they. it was a fascinated field mentored by a guy who taught at minnesota university and hired this field with the study of two identical twins, jim and jim from ohio who in 1979 recovered each other.
they were 39 years old and had tremendous similarities. they vacationed at the same beach, all of this so all of this twin science is woven through this entire piece, just finally and i'll let you go. are they bitter? >> it's interesting. >> to me the heart of this story are the two brothers raised in the wrong place. on the one hand you have carlos who had a lot of benefits raised in the city he was able to go to nice school et cetera. he sometimes wonder coring to our story, would i have the same life if i had had a much harder upbringing upbringing i think wrm feels bitter he missed out on certain opportunities. he never got to know his mother. these guys' mother died three years before this came out. on the other hand the four of them are now all kind of living together like one big crazy family. when jose comes home to tell william, he said do you believe in telenovellas?
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>> i really didn't know what happened. the fire was in the attic, so it wasn't in the room with us so i heard and felt mainly heard the explosion happen. it caused the ceiling covering of the room i was in to fall. for a second i thought the ceiling was collapsing and recognizing it wasn't collapses, but blowing the covering off. >> did you immediately run out? >> no my firefighter was in front of me and so i made sure he was okay. of course he was, because it wasn't heavy debris. i went outside to see what happened. that's when i saw that the access door to the attic this blown off the end of the house and the insulation was blown across the yar and the street. >> that's what it looks like. it looks like confetti but it's insulation from the home. can you explain for me what causes a backdraft? what is that? >> that's when a fire is
contained to an area and burns off all the oxygen but it's still super-heated as soon as you introduce oxygen back into the equation it erupts into a fireball and expands beyond the ability of the radio manyoom to contain it, which is what the explosion is. >> you and all your firefighters on the scene, are they all okay? >> yes, ma'am. nobody was in front of the explosion. everybody was thankfully off to the side. >> thankfully is right. finally, the mother and the baby who were in the home, they're safe? >> that's correct. they were already clear of the home when we received the call. >> wow. brian henry, it's a stunning image, especially see you there at the front door about to walk in before this massive explosion happens. i'm glad you're okay. i am not surprised you didn't immediately turn around.
you wanted to make sure that firefighters in front of you washes a-okay. tremendous work you do and thanks for coming on. >> thank you. well that does it to me. i'm brooke baldwin in new york. have wonderful weekends but stay right here. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. \s. this afternoon the fbi admitted a huge failure, one that seems to have allowed a racist killer with a criminal record to get a gun. i'm jake tapper this is "the lead." breaking news in the national lead. three weeks plus after the massacre in charleston south carolina the fbi this afternoon admitting it missed a red flag one that would have denied the shooter he used to murder nine innocent people. also in national news. for years they ignored the many warnings and initially did not tell the truth about the scope of the biggest data breach in u.s. government history. 22 million people hacked