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twitter. go aledhead and tweet me or the show. join us tomorrow right here in "the situation room." always watch us live. if you can't, dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. president obama daring his critics if they don't like the iran deal, come up with something better. my guest, lindsey graham. cnn going inside the tunnel to freedom for the first time tonight. you will see it. every bit of it. a report on the drug lord's beauty queen wife who is likely in the united states right now. does she know where the brutal fugitive is tonight? pluto like you have never seen it before. new images that are shocking scientists. wait until you see them. let's go "out front."
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good evening. i'm erin burnett. the president fighting back. confident, aggressive at times angry. president obama confronting reporters and critics today. he says his iran deal is as good as it is going to get. >> i'm hearing a lot of talking points being repeated about this is a bad deal. what i haven't heard is what is your preferred alternative? >> his sales pitch ran on for more than an hour. when he got questions that wasn't about iran he said have i more i want to say about iran. this comes as the ayatollah made a rare public appearance warning the united states is not trustworthy. jim acosta begins our coverage tonight. jim, we saw an impassioned, energetic, angry, confrontational president eager to call out his critics. >> reporter: that's right. he didn't want the news
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conference to end. neither did we. president obama came out swinging even scolding a reporter he thought was out of line as he insisted his deal with iran was never designed to solve every problem with tehran only the big one, stopping one of the world's most dangerous regimes from getting the bomb. >> have a seat. >> reporter: sounding supremely confident, president obama brushed aside all of the criticisms of his nuclear deal with iran demanding that opponents in congress simply read the agreement. >> you will hear criticsd a better deal. what does that mean? >> reporter: the president relished the opportunity to speak to his detractors. he praised the agreements inspection process, dismissing doubts that iran would get away with chieating. >> something is missing on the back end, they got some explaining to do. >> reporter: he insisted the agreement is more than just
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postponing iran's nuclear ambition ambitions. >> none of us are holding out hope that they will change their behavior. >> i'm hopeful it will change. >> reporter: one pointed question did get under the president's skin why four americans detained or missing in iran were not freed. >> can you tell why you are content with the fanfare to leave the conscious of this nation the strength of this nation unaccounted for in relation to these four american snz. >> the notion i am content as i celebrate with american citizens languishing in iranian jail ss, major, that's nonsense. you should know better. >> reporter: slamming reporters won't silence his critics. >> look this is a decision that shouldn't be made lightly.
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and i am going to just study this agreement before i -- and talk to people before i do anything else. >> reporter: the biggest skeptic, benjamin netanyahu is blasting the inspection process which could take 24 days to look at suspicious sites. >> that's a long time. you can flush a lot of evidence down the toilet. it's like telling a drug dealer we will check your meth lab in 24 days. we will put you on warning. >> reporter: besides the iran deal he raised eyebrows when he conceded he won't defeat isis or setting the syrian civil war while in office. president said he did not have the authority to revoke the medal of honor from bill cosby. i heard from a white house official who said the larger point that the president was trying to make is that it would have been more complicated to make their fate part of the deal and they are working to get those americans released every day. >> thank you very much jim acosta. the deal of course isn't just
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dependent on congress signing off. the supreme leader of iran has to buy in. at this point, his plans are anyone's guess. he came out on this today. >> reporter: as president obama was defending the deal iran's supreme leader was sending mixed signals. in a series of tweets he said the agreement still needs scrutiny. although he wasn't at the negotiating table, he lamboomed large in the talks. today president obama's acknowledged his final say. >> during the course of the negotiations every time the supreme leader or somebody tweeted something out, for some reason we all bought into the notion well the obama administration must be giving this or capitulating to that. now we have a document. >> reporter: the ayatollah has used social media to lay out his lines for the talks and stay true to the message that iran
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would never give in to the u.s. warning, the u.s. should know that people of iran wouldn't submit to bullying. during the last round of talks in march, the ayatollah was caught shouting death to america to the iranian people. >> if the supreme leader veetoed this bill -- he says his hate runs deep. >> he has profoundly distrustful of the united states and the supreme leader's bases are hardliners chanting death to america for decades. >> reporter: last week the iranian team refused to compromise on key points. in the heated exchange iran's foreign minister was asked whether the ayatollah was ready to do the deal. >> do you have a mandate to negotiate following your trip?
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>> i didn't go to get a man did the -- a mandate. >> reporter: the supreme leader is believed to have signed off on the deal. before the iranians agreed to it. he will have to respond carefully, juggling the reaction of hardliners who opposed any deal with the west with many who are hopeful it will improve the economy with the lifting of sanctions and end iran's international isolation. >> thank you very much. let's go to the 2016 republican presidential candidate lindsey graham. the senator sits on the armed services committee. good to have you with us tonight. you saw the ayatollah making a rare appearance saying it's the united states that he doesn't trust. what do you think of the ayatollah? >> i think he would be dancing. he just doesn't believe in dancing. they took us to the cleaners. look at our friends in israel. here is what we have been able
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to achieve. we have given the ayatollah and his regime more money and more weapons without requiring them to change their behavior. instead of dismantling their program, we have locked in an industrial sized nuclear program that through the passage of time can grow as large as they would like. we have put every sunni arab country in a box. they think they have to get a nuclear weapon. this could be a death sentence for israel. this is a lousy deal. the next president will have a mess on their hands. >> you say it's a lousy deal the president isn't competent. today he was confrontational, he was confident. he says the burden is on you. he says you are the one who has to say why this deal doesn't work. >> i will be glad to. >> let me play how he said it. then you can take him on. here he is. >> okay. sure. >> i'm hearing a lot of talking points being repeated about this is a bad deal. this is a historically bad deal.
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this will threaten israel and threaten the world, threaten the united states. i mean there's been a lot of that. what i haven't heard is what is your preferred alternative. >> senator, answer the question, please. >> i would be glad to. my preferred alternative would be not to give the ayatollah $100 billion in sankction relief unless he agreed to stop destabilizeing the mideast. not to lift the weapons embargo not part of the original negotiation so that five years from now he can buy more weapons to destabilize the mideast, share it with terrorist organization who can come here. my alternative would be to dismantle the program like we wanted rather than leaving in place an industrial size nuclear program that after the passage of time can be as large as the
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ayatollah would like. my preferred alternative would have been not to require the sunni arabs to get a nuclear weapon to counter which now is a certainty in their mind that the ayatollah will have a nuke. my preferred alternative would be not to give the people who chant death to america, death to israel the ability over time to destroy the jewish state. >> one of the strangest experiences in my life was being at one of those rallies and how nice people were treating me. it was an issue about the country, not the individuals. the point -- the question i want to ask you is you talk about the sanctions. i hear you on that. i was in iran. i met british businessmen, french businessmen. they were there. they shouldn't have been there. i was there during the presidential elections. i went to a mercedes dealership, bmw dealerships. sources are telling me the president is right on this one key point, that the sanctions are going away because of the rest of the world who does business with iran is not willing to keep them in place.
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the u.s. could choose to not do a deal with iran but you are not going to keep the sanctions. >> i could say this that a weak american president creates chaos for the world at large. this is the guy that said isil was the jv team. this is the guy who drew a red line against assad and did nothing about it. here is what i would tell the rest of the world. as to america, we're not going to agree to give the ayatollah any more money until he changes his behavior. we will keep our sanctions in place. if you do business with iran you are not going to do business with america. you choose. >> you think that would really work that they would make that choice? >> i think -- >> it's one thing to say that. it's another to say we're not going to buy german made products. >> that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying if you are a german company doing business in iran you are not going to business with american banks and do business in america.
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if you want a nuclear program for peaceful purposes, you can have you will not get more weapons until you stop destabilizeing the mideast. as to the rest of the world, america is going to stand up to the ayatollah who is a religious fanatic. we're not going to allow this regime to become stronger on my watch as president. i think it will affect us. i know it will affect the middle east and threaten israel not rest of my lifetime. this is a lousy deal. it's an american president being weak and everybody taking advantage. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. never before seen video. for the first time we will go inside the unbelievable tunnel that took a drug lord to freedom. we found a grill for cooking. stunning new numbers on donald trump. his polls and wealth on the rise. is he worth more than $10
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go inside the drug lord he willel chapo chapo's tunnel to freedom. cnn walked that tunnel today. it's deep. it's dark. the air was thick with the smell of gasoline. we have video of the drug lord's final moments in captivity. this is el chapo. he is in his cell. he walked to his shower, ducks down and disappears. the tunnel connects to that shower. nick valencia got a look inside the tunnel. >> reporter: this is the closest that we have been allowed to get to el chapo's tunnel. the tunnel he used in his brazen escape on saturday night. it's by all accounts a magnificent feat of engineering. let's see exactly what el chapo here had in store. this is a small exit a couple feet wide and a couple feet long. with the ladder about ten foot 15 foot that leads down into the tunnel. the roof here is nothing to brag
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about. it's empty. full of cinder blocks. you can see these containers full of dirt here the wheelbarrows full of dirt. here we go. [ speaking spanish ] here is another ladder leading down into another part. a deeper part a deeper section of the tunnel. it's aways down. you can see here, this is the modifiedyied motorcycle that investigators showed us images before. this is on a track. see that? there's buckets left behind. look at this. left behind oxygen tanks as well in order for them to survive down here. it's a very tight space. i can't even stand up. i'm about 5'10".
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i can't stand up all the way. it's a remarkable feat of engineering. the tunnel stretches for more than a mile. carved out earth here. this modified train track for that mini-motorcycle. you see here electricity lines. it's very difficult to breathe down here. a lot of dirt, dust. this here for the ventilation system. tight, tight space down here. for a man known as el chapo, i'm sure he had more than enough room to work with. this motorcycle was on a track here. this is the bike he used to ride out of the prison. it still has gas in it. you can still smell the gas. it's an overwhelming odor of gas in this tight space. it really is suffocating. >> that's incredible to watch. you are talking about the suffocating, it was stifling. how did it feel to be in there?
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>> reporter: it was incredible access. if you are class electrophoneustrophobic, that's not the spot you want to be in. there seemed to be people living there. we saw dirty dishes christmas lights outside, an empty beer can on the ground. a very interesting point to note because up until now, mexican officials have said that no one was living there. that's not the story that we're hearing from local farmers who said that in the months leading up to his escape they saw two middle-aged men coming and going from the residence. they kept to themselves. they would wave as they drove down the dirt road. officials said no one lived there. that's not what we saw. >> incredible. the grill alone, just the image of that, it can conjure up and seeing the video images. thank you so much to nick. i want to bring in joe garcia. he spent years investigating tunnels that el chapo built. he was in charge of u.s. homeland security
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investigations. we are looking at the tunnel for the first time. i want to pull the pictures up. nick is talking about it being stifling smelling like gas. he saw generator, electricity, lights over top of him. was this state-of-the-art or just thrown together? >> it's pretty typical of the sophisticated tunnels that we have seen here in san diego. it has ventilation, electricity. the one big difference is we don't usually have a gas generator or a gas-powered vehicle, because it is such a close space. but since this tunnel was only made for one purpose and one trip for the principle, who is el chapo they weren't too concerned about that. >> it's amazing. the tunnel is so incredibly narrow. as nick was saying it's hard to breathe. there's dirt. we're told that el chapo used the motorcycle which is what nick is showing, used the
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motorcycle and drove the whole mile length of the tunnel instead of walking. imagining navigating something this narrow with a motorcycle at speed is frankly pretty incredible. why would he use the motorcycle? was time that much of the essence? >> right. any time even for somebody of his stature being in a closed space like that and walking where you are hunched over or anything like that a mile is an incredibly long distance to try to cover. so yes, speed was of the essence for him. and he wanted to get through quickly as would anybody. normally what we have seen in the past in tunnels that were discovered here in san diego and other places along the southwest border would be a type of a mining cart or electrical mining cart or push mining cart. i think this was just another way that they did to expedite his movement over the mile-long trip. >> incredible. thank you very much joe.
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as their are trying to find the drug lord many said he has disappeared for good. one way to find him could be through his beauty queen wife. she met el chapo when she was 17 years old. he was about 50 years old. miguel marquez is "out front." >> reporter: they have twin daughters born in california. now the whereabouts subject of debate. >> she resides half of the time in california. she has relatives there. she comes and goes between mexico. >> reporter: the mexican stunner caught el chapo's eye in 2007 when competing for a queen in the state of mexico. that according to the influential and anonymously written blog. at the time she was 17. he was in his 50s. it is one of five women in his
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life. he has a total of eight children some of which have been killed by rival cartels. others arrested. it appears she holds a special place in the drug kingpin's heart. >> he is dedicated to her to an extent. one clue to catch him might be following her. >> reporter: guzman married him the day she turned 18. >> she comes from a very similar background. from the communityies in the countryside who have grown up around -- among drug traffickers. >> reporter: their daughters barn on august 15 2011 north of los angeles, the same area where she may be living. on the birth certificate, the mother is listed as emma coronel, the father's name blank. at the time there was a $5 million reward for information leading to the arrest of el chapo.
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when guzman was arrested in february 2014 in bed by his side in this modest condo in mexico were her and their twin daughters. two pink suitcases displayed on the bed where el chapo and coronel slept. one question is whether there's any worth of keeping eyes on her right now. some saying that he may try to get to them to reunite with her and his children. others saying no way. there's no way he would put them in harm's way. >> thank you. something so disturbing about the fact that he waited until the day she turned 18 to marry her. next -- >> i'm really rich. >> >> that's no lie. a shocking new poll on the donald next. volunteers reaching what they believe is the wreckage of the plane that crashed in washington. we will be right back.
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tonight, donald trump, the $10 billion man. filing with the federal election commission today. he said frankly, that the
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financial forms couldn't handle a man of his massive wealth because once you get over $50 million, you check a box that says more than that. $10 billion obviously doesn't have a category. this comes as two new polls show his popularity is skyrocketing. dana bash is "out front." >> unbelievable company. i built it. >> reporter: a new financial disclosure puts don't zs donald trump's net worth at more than $10 billion. he made more than $362 million last year alone. staggering figures released to prove -- >> ahead of schedule. >> reporter: trump told cnn that he is serious about his presidential run. it seems the more voters see donald trump -- >> the silent majority is back. we're going to take the country back. >> reporter: the more they like him. his favorability rating more
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than doubled to 57% in a new poll. four in ten say they have an un unfavorable view of the candidate. the latest numbers may indicate that -- >> nine nine nine -- >> god bless you, everyone. >> reporter: donald trump may have some staying power. >> they are killing us at the border. they are killing us in trade. >> reporter: trump's tough at times politically incorrect talk is mainly resonating with a certain segment of the republican base. in a poll that showed trump for the first time leading the large gop pack those who identify as very conservative view trump most favorably, 47%. those self-described very conservative voters are unlikely to support jeb bush in the gop primary, and he is trying to use trump as a foil to appeal to
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more moderate republicans. >> whether it's donald trump or obama, their rhetoric of divisiveness is wrong. a republican will never win by striking fear in people's hearts. >> how about ted cruz and ben carson and others that say what trump said is right? you have to mention them, too. >> reporter: those republican candidates are embracing trump. if fact in fact, ted cruz is meeting with trump today in new york. on donald trump's net worth, we should underscore that what he made public was a press release. the financial discloser with the details have not been released. that said he also argues that he had a gain in stocks of more than $27 million. he also claims that when it comes to that show that he was on for 14 seasons, all told he made more than $213 million.
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>> i bet you that number is going to turn out to be correct when it comes to that at least. thank you, dana. the former political director for president reagan now a contributing editor at the american spectator. he is a supporter of mr. trump. also press secretary kevin madden. kevin, the poll 56% of republicans say donald trump would do a good job handling the economy. best score. the poll that dana referenced abc news washington post 57% of republican voters have a favorable view of him. that has doubled. he is resonating. >> you know there's a sliver of this electoral that -- what they want more than anything out of a candidate who is someone who is confrontation, whether with hillary or obama or politicians in general. this idea of an anti-politician businessman who is speaking truth to power and confronting the status quo, that is what -- i think at the heart of why you see some of the numbers go up.
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>> kevin -- >> one of the big risks he has, his unfavorability ratings are high. >> let me ask you first, because -- the operative word i heard was sliver. 57% of favorable view is not a sliver. >> i think they are reacting to media coverage you are seeing right now where it's obama criticizing -- i'm sorry, trump criticizing obama. voters love that. they see trump criticize hillary clinton. they love that. he is very hard on the immigration issue. so many of the base voters they respond to that rhetoric right now. >> jeff i know you are more optimistic on donald trump. what about kevin's point about unfavor unfavorability? 45% view hillary clinton unfavorably. that's people -- that view her
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as not trust worthy. how can donald trump overcome that? >> one quick thing. we don't endorse candidates. i want to be clear about that. favorability ratings can change. i saw where his numbers jumped 20% from june to july. certainly, i think that this is a very changeable situation and fluid as we move along here. i don't think there's any doubt about that. >> so kevin, let's talk about the wealth numbers. these are incredible. we don't have the full disclosures. the boxes, once you are over $50 million, it's anyone's guess. he says in his filing his net worth is greater than $10 billion. he has been saying he he is rich all the way along. i would like to play for you donald trump saying this. he says it better than i do. >> here is the good news. i'm very rich. i don't need anybody's money. it's nice. i'm really rich. i'm the most successful person
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to run. fortunately, i'm very rich. i have a total net worth and now with the increase it will be well over $10 billion. i'm not doing that to brag because you know what i don't have to brag. i don't have to believe it or not. >> kevin, he is the wealthiest person to run for president in the history of the united states. he maybekes mitt romney look like a paup pauper. he said, i have a store worth more than romney. he was viewed eded out of touch because he is so rich. >> the bigger problem is not only the way he talks about his wealth but that was a record right there for the use of the word "i." voters right now, they want to know what you will do for them. i think this is where you will see the numbers start to come back down to earth after the initial boom of all the coverage of the announcement is donald trump continues to talk about himself. donald trump with an egocentric
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campaign a celebrity-driven campaign. he will have a problem connecting with voters. the big events ez had ss he had have been at a golf course and winery. not the best way to connect with a lot of middle americans. >> jeff do you think the numbers will come down or will they keep defying -- >> well you know this gives the old washington saying a billion here and a billion there and soon it adds up to real money -- i think that he will do very well here. he has this incredible ability to connect with regular folks. some of it is because he is a new yorker. he is also not a shamed of his money. he is proud of it. i have been with him walking on streets where the crowd just goes crazy. this is before he announced he was running for president. these are regular folks, giving him high five and all of this thing. i don't really think he will have that problem that governor romney unfortunately did have. >> i would disagree there. i think they like it when it comes from a celebrity.
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they will not like it when it's somebody who is supposed to be looking out for them as president. >> thank you very much. we will see. next breaking news with searchers in washington reaching what they now say at this moment is the badly burned wreckage of the plane. the survivor 16-year-old autumn. two of her best friends next. new pictures of pluto tonight. mountains, 11,000 feet high. we can see them. what are we learning tonight?
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breaking news tonight, searchers locating the site of the plane -- the crash that was survived by 16-year-old autumn veatch the only survivor of the case. the wreckage is still smoldering. two bodies have been recovered. the 16-year-old survivor was flying with her grandparents. emerging from the mountains two days after the plane went missing. dan simon is "out front." authorities say they have found the wreckage, which they had been hunting for and hunting for
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for days. >> reporter: yeah. they found it a short time ago in a very steep, difficult area to get to. they said it was still on fire. if you can believe that. they called the u.s. forest service to come there and put out a small brush fire. they said the plane was badly burned as you can imagine. they did, of course find the bodies. they did remove those. at this point, it seems like it's up to the ntsb to determine a cause. we know prior to the plane going down autumn said there was turbulence. she said there was bad weather in the area. radar confirms just prior to the plane disappearing from radar, there were thunderstorms moving into the area. >> dan, you went in the woods that she hiked through. how hard would that have been? she's 16. she was alone. she didn't have training. she didn't have any supplies. >> reporter: that's the first thing you think of when you go into a place like this. we're talking about very thick,
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dense vegetation. i myself would want to go there n there without boots, without the problem equipment. you would want to have a map, a come pass. she didn't have anything. all she had were the clothes on her back. here she is in the middle of nowhere. the other thing that makes an impression on you is that it's significantly colder there. it's 20 to 25 degrees cooler at that elevation. it can get really cold at night. that was one of the challenges. the other challenge was just figuring out where to go. perhaps the smartest thing she did was to follow the water. she followed the stream going downstream. that put her on a hiking path which ultimately took her to the highway where she was rescued. i have to tell you, pretty amazing after walking through there knowing what she had to go through. >> incredible story of resilience for anyone never mind someone who didn't have that experience who had been in a plane crash, 16 years old.
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thank you to dan. i want to go to two friends of autumn veatch chelsea and sarah. they just visited autumn. thank you both for coming on and talking to me. chelsea, you saw her. how is she? >> she's doing well. she's eating and resting up still. >> eating and resting up. i know she needs that. sarah, does she truly understand what she has survived and endured? she must still be in shock. >> yeah. she's still in shock. i'm not sure that she really understands all of it at this point. she's still processing it. >> i can imagine it's going to take a long time. to go through something so terrifying and horrific. chelsea, before taking off in this plane this weekend on saturday she posted a picture of herself on the plane. this is autumn on the plane. we will show everyone so they can see it. had she ever flown on a plane like this before?
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>> yes. she's flown on a commercial flights but never a smaller aircraft like this before. this was her . >> this was a tiny plane i understand. sarah, what did autumn tell you about what happened on the plane, about the weather? >> she talked about how it was cloudy and really hard to see. you couldn't see much in front of you. >> there was bad weather as this was happening? >> mm-hmm. yes. >> chelsea. her father david -- i don't know if tuyou heard our reporter. he was talking about how temperatures could be 25 degrees colder up that high how remote impossible to find food. her father david said that he and autumn used to watch survival tv shows together. do you think that that helped her? >> i think it helped her. but i do want to say, i think she would definitely -- would
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have survived without the shows. the willpower i think got her out of the woods as well as the knowledge from the shows. she can put her mind to anything and she can do it. >> what is it about her -- i was talking to the sheriff yesterday. he said she was like a super hero. what is it about her that make her so resilient? i understand she's in shock, of course. but so calm. >> yeah. i would say, you know, autumn has just always been like that. it's just a part of who she is. she's very self-determined to do what she really puts her mind to. she just makes things happen. >> she sounds like an incredible young lady. obviously, the miracle of her survival something so many are just in awe of. thanks to both of you. next even more amazing images of pluto. these have just been beamed back to earth. think about it. you are looking at an image that
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we have new pictures tonight from pluto. as good as you can get. at the closest point to pluto. icy little pluto got closeups of the area they call the heart. sort of the shape of it. anyway they found you. may think these are warts. they're not. they're 11,000 foot mountains. the shocker that's on this planet there are no craters, or former planet whatever you want to call it. you get my point. unlike earth littered with them. that could be hugely significant. what does it mean, the former nasa astronaut, professor of mechanical engineering at columbia university. this is pretty incredible. we saw a spectacular update. originally looking at pluto like someone who desperately needs glasses. it was blurry in the hubble space telescope. that's on the left. now we have the new photo. today we are able to look at 11,000 foot mountains. >> detail. closeups. really exciting stuff.
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a whole new world. a planet or dwarf planet whatever you want to call it we knew very little about. we had not very good images you have shown earlier. now we have really great detail about it. >> what are we going to learn? now you say there is 11,000 foot mountains on tiny pluto? what does that mean? >> what are the mountains made out of. we thought it was frozen nitrogen. to have mountain that high it is probably not nitrogen. >> could be real walks. >> could be water, even cooler. if you have water. a building block for life. they're pretty convinced it is a big ice mountain. they'll get more data. >> if it's water. multiple mraentsplanets that have water and potential for life. ie. everyone you find the odd of there being lots of life out there go up. >> life we could recognize. life for us, walterter is the most important thing for life more important than food more
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important than cnn television. and the age that not having the craters, gives the clue that it is a fairly new planet. about 100 million years old. sound pretty old to us. >> a little baby. >> a baby. the solar system is 4.5 billion. this is 100 million years old. we can get a lot of clues. >> the bottom line now the spacecraft keeps on flying out. but it might see something we don't even know. >> right. so there going to keep their eyes own. they're trying to decide what they might target for it to go to. just limited amount of fuel. if they can find a target. hard to get a target. so far away. this is so far out there. stuff is so dim. hard to find a good target i they can get a good target they'll redirect this thing. they'll fiend something to look at. maybe more than one thing. see what they can come up with. they're going to on the way out there. hopefully get more images. sending data for a year and a half. scientists are going to be very busy coachfully entertaining and
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educating us over the next couple years. >> finding the life out there. >> that would be great. >> incredible. incredible. what if it could happen in our lifetime? thank you, mike. out front next how the pilot of this small plane outmuscled some jersey drivers. not easy to do. think about it guys. chris christie is from this state. we'll be back. developing some of the highest quality, clinically proven nutrition isn't easy so at gnc, why do we do it? why do we include key ingredients found in fruits and vegetables to create the world's best multivitamin programs? why do we do over 150 quality checks before putting them on the shelf? well, here's why... ♪ ♪ celebrating 80 years
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here is jeanne moos. >> you know when you are driving down the highway and you see a plane landing in your rearview mirror. okay. it's not exactly the miracle on the hudson. this was, sort of the miracle on route 72 huh? >> wouldn't call it a miracle. >> reporter: pilot, michael barbato whose excellent emergency landing in traffic was captured by a traffic cam. the skydiving plane, the pilot, two instructors and two first time jumpers lost its only engine. >> did you consider jumping? because you all had parachutes on correct? >> yes, there was no chance i was going to be jumping out. once you leave the airplane you have no control over where it goes. >> besides an altitude of 4,000 feet is low for jumping. the pilot came in at all most 100 miles an hour. touched down on the pavement and steered to the median to avoid
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hitting cars. a motorist shot the skydivers, leaping and hugging in relief. the only injury -- >> the landing itself was soft. just like landing back at the airport. >> reporter: they don't give you a ticket do they? >> no no. i said sorry about the road signs. >> like the one crushed under the plane, keep off the median. talk about plain english. the pilot wants that as a souvenir. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> thank you. anderson is next. >> thank you for joining us. a lot to get to. president obama, bill cosby, bill nye and pluto. we begin with donald trump, current co-leader for nomination for president. new polling tonight on that. a new number. his net worth. today the trump campaign says it filed