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hitting cars. a motorist shot the skydivers, leaping and hugging in relief. the only injury -- >> the landing itself was soft. just like landing back at the airport. >> reporter: they don't give you a ticket do they? >> no no. i said sorry about the road signs. >> like the one crushed under the plane, keep off the median. talk about plain english. the pilot wants that as a souvenir. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> thank you. anderson is next. >> thank you for joining us. a lot to get to. president obama, bill cosby, bill nye and pluto. we begin with donald trump, current co-leader for nomination for president. new polling tonight on that. a new number. his net worth. today the trump campaign says it filed papers with federal election officials on his
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finances. as only donald trump can. the press release offered so much more. dana bash has the bottom line. >> reporter: i'm really rich. just how rich? donald trump says he has a net worth of more than $10 billion and he says he made more than $362 million last year alone. >> it is an unbelievable company. far greater the i built that. i built it. >> reporter: with classic trump hubris his campaign calls his wealth so vast it was hard to fill out federal election commission form. if a bidding owned by mr. from is worth $1.5 billion, the box checked is $50 million or more. staggering figures released. to prove. trump told cnn he is serious about his presidential run. trump did not make the details of his financial public to verify claims. like making $213 million over 14 seasons of his reality show the
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apprentice. as for gop voters it seems the more they see donald trump. >> the silent majority is back. and we are going to take the country back. >> reporter: the more they like him. his favorability rating among republicans, a key indicator for any candidate, more than doubled from just 23% to 57% in a new abc news/"washington post" poll. four in ten say they have an unfavorable view of the candidate. still the latest numbers may indicate that unlike flash in the pan gop candidates who surged in 2012. >> nine nine nine. >> god bless you everyone! >> donald trump may have some staying power. >> they're killing us at the border and they're killing us in trade. they're killing us. >> reporter: trump's tough at times politically incorrect talk is mainly resonating with a certain segment of the republican base. in a suffolk/"usa today" poll
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which showed trump leading the large gop pac, those who identify as very conservative view trump favorably. 47%. those self described very conservative voters are unlikely to support jeb bush in the gop primary and he is now trying to use trump as a foil to appeal to more moderate republicans. >> a republican will never win by striking fear in people any hearts. >> how about ted cruz and how about ben carson and how about others say what trump said is exactly right. you have to mention them too? >> those republican candidates of his way to compliment the billionaire is even meeting privately with trump in new york today. >> dana bash joins us. new gallup poll released. how americans think donald trump could do with big issues were the results surprising? >> some yes, some no. the really really rich man tra. making the political argument if he knows how to make billions
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for himself he can fix america's finances. the poll shows republican voters believe that. 56% say he would do a good job handling the economy. 44% though said that he would do a good job handling immigration. which shows, where the republican electorate is on the issue. pretty much split. now, on the issue of international affairs, trump isn't doing as well. only 27%, that's 1 in 4 republicans think he would do a good job on mexico. 3/4 aren't buying trump's argument he can negotiate deals and handle mexican leaders better than anybody with regard to illegal immigration. broadly, 23%, say he would do a good job on foreign affairs. >> dana bash thanks. >> let's get perspective from republican panelist rich gallen once spoke for newt gingrich jeffrey lord "american spectator" and paul
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begala strategizes as co-chair of a pro hillary clinton super pac and long time adviser of president clinton in the '90s. jeffrey, the press release on trump's finances what do you make of it? if everything seems true does it make it near impossible for any republican to compete with him economically? >> well my first thought was, gee, i guess he's rich. i guess he was right about this. >> i had the same thought, actually. >> my second thought is i once i wish i could tell you who, where i heard this. somebody said a fund raiser for donald trump is a meeting with his accountant. i do think this is i do think this is a big deal. we hear how much jeb bush raised. we hear how much other candidates have raised or not raising in some cases. this is a man who literally has to make a phone call and make a decision or something approximating that and it's done. so i do think this is a very very big deal.
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>> does it change the way he then does his campaigning? because, you know i think what a lot of people don't realize. how much time a lot of these candidates spend just working the phones trying to raise money, asking people for money. >> yes, he doesn't have to do an of that. you know there is a limit to how much money can do. and i'm old enough to remember one word, edsal. no matter how much money ford spent for the car it was a bust. to some point you got to diminishing returns level. there are only so many tv stations in the new hampshire markets. only so many in iowa. only so many in south carolina. >> rich to that point, one, i imagine donald trump listening to that and hear you compare him to an edsal and exploding. to that point he is leading in the polls. not only that he actually has a quite, large ground operation, in new hampshire bigger than
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some of the other candidates out there. and there is no indication that -- that's going to stop any time soon. >> i wrote about this. at some point, four years ago, michele bachmann led the polls, herman cane, santorum gingrich. just one of the things. they come. they go. everybody feels the good. and then says eh. in the end it was mitt romney. i don't think donald trump will be the nominee of the republican party. >> interesting point. michele bachmann leading the polls this time last time. is donald trump in the same category? >> with all respect to congresswoman, bachmann. no. i do think trump has a lot more talent. money gives you staying power in politics. he has dunz of munoes have tons of money. i am a skeptic over time he can win the nomination. god is good. he is not that good. the good lord will have to make
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my friend hillary win this thing. >> it's interesting, somebody looking at this financial release would say this guys one of the richest candidate ever to run for office. i don't know about, looking, way, way, back. but certainly extraordinarily ridge as he frequently will tell you. and it seems like a lot of the people who he is appealing to are not the elites are not the other folks who are high up on the economic pyramid. it's you all of his money, maybe it is intentional. appealing to a real constituency that is not at his economic level. or anywhere close to it. >> anderson i have to say i spent some time with him once. and he does have this reaganesque ability to communicate with regular folks. he is a new yorker very plain spoken. >> he is at 17% in the most favorable poll.
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17%. even even barack obama got 37% in iowa. so he has got a long way to go. plus you know he is not taking as much out of the, ron bernstein had a good article in the "national journal" this is coming out of the high. most of it is the tea party candidates on the right. nobody in the republican party, i don't believe, is sitting around saying oh my goodness i will have to decide to between jeb bush and donald trump. >> he is trying to kill my buzz anderson. >> i know. i know. i thought you were going to put your hand over there, and humming, paul so you didn't hear this. paul let me ask you about pom some of the polls? the abc/"washington post" poll came out shows trump leading over jeb bush. same poll, shows 61% of americans view trump as unfavorable. the poll showed 81% of latinos have an unfavorable view of trump. are those numbers surmountable?
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>> you can change anything. i shouldn't have been so glib. yes, i've don't think it is for donald trump. you can overcome. it is early. when you start to build in your image. this guy is all about image. that same image that has driven him up to 57 favorable amongst republicans, same poll 61% negative among all voters. that's the problem republicans have now. 81% negative with hispanics. the republican base ain't the same as america. in republican primaries, 90% to the 95% of the voters are white. when we get off to general election 70%, 71% are white. totally different country. >> used to hear this about ronald reagan all the time. >> they were all white then. >> jeffrey, paul rich always. thank you. as always make sure you set your dvr, watch 360 when you
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president obama defended plenty of big idea against plenty of tough opposition during his presidency. few though match his defense of yesterday's nuclear deal with iran. either in the stakes involved potentially war or peace or the opposition he is facing from congress. he took that on today and showed a side of himself many observers have not seen from this president. jim acosta was there. >> reporter: answering a chorus of critics president obama came out swinging insisting his nuclear deal with iran was never designed to solve every problem with tehran. >> this deal is not contingent on iran changing its behavior. it is not contingent on iran suddenly operating like a liberal democracy. it solves one particular problem which is making sure they didn't have a bomb. >> reporter: the president brushed off the celebrations of the deal as a victory in iran and even syria. >> it does not give me pause
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that mr. assad or others in tehran may be trying to spin the deal in a way that -- they think is favorable to what their constituents want to hear. >> he hit back at opponents in congress demanding they read the agreement. >> i think that if congress does that then in fact based on the facts, the majority of congress should approve of this deal. but, we live in washington. and politics do intrude. you'll hear some critics say, "well we could have negotiated a better deal." okay what does that mean? >> the president bristled at why americans detained in iran were not freed as part of the deal. >> can you tell the country, sir, why you are contnt with all the fanfare around this deal to leave the conscience and the strength of this nation unaccounted for in relation to the four americans? >> the notion that i am content, as i celebrate with american
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citizens languishing in iranian jails -- major, that's nonsense. and you should know better. i have met with the families of some of those folks. nobody is content. >> mr. obama also touted the agreement's complicated controversial inspection process dismissing doubts that iran would get away with cheating. >> suddenly something is missing on the back end they got some explaining to do. >> this is not something you hide in a closet. this is not something you put on a dolly and kind of wheel off somewhere. >> reporter: the president seemed to thrive on the unanswered questions taking a few extra at the end of his news conference including one on bill cosby. >> if you give a woman or a man for that matter without his or her knowledge a drug and then
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have sex with that person without consent, that's rape. >> jim joins us from the white house. the president was asked about state of the middle east and his legacy there, what did he say? >> well it was interesting, anderson the president was asked how does he hope to leave the middle east when he leaves office. the president raised eyebrows when he consent he is not going to defeat isis as president of the united states nor does he think he will settle the syrian sill war while in office. i had a chance to ask him at the end of the news conference taking all these different questions from reporters, abut this iran deal. where will iran be at the end of the deal 10 15 years from now? he said it is not about changing iran's behavior. not holding out hope iran will fundamentally change. it is really about constraining their nuclear program. that's what the deal is all about. the question is whether or not the public members of congress the international community will accept those answers. >> jim acosta appreciate it. president obama telegraphed a
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lot of what he said today when he sat down with op-ed columnist, thomas friedman. joins us now. thank you for joining us. >> to jim's point, the president talking with you is clearly trying to limit the scope of what impact this deal will have to just nuclear weapons over a limited time frame, ten years or more. you believe though that ultimately his legacy on iran will be determined by whether this deal lead to it, some sort of transformation within iran and u.s. iranian relations not just the nuclear issue. >> the point i was making anderson. i understand why he wants to limit it to just the scope of the deal itself. have we set back iran's ability significantly to weaponize its nuclear program for at least a decade. the point i was simply making is that you know i went into journalism in beirut in 1979 with the iranian revolution. my whole journalism career has been framed by the iran/u.s.
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cold war. and the fact that obama has taken through the deal obama and the iranians have taken the first steps to end the cold war inevitably is going to frame this smaller deal around nuclear weapons in the larger context of did it did it not get us to the finish line? did, did it not lead to a real transformation in this relationship? >> it was interesting. you wrote some two weeks ago i think it was in an article. you've said this deal could be as big if not big an earthquake in the middle east as u.s. invasions of afghanistan and iraq. do you really believe that that ills the case? this could cause more upheaval or at least more shock waves than those wars? >> well, you know the way i think about it imagine your older brother walked out the door in 1979. you took this bicycle. i took his stereo. our sister took his bunkbed. and you know since for 36 years
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we kind of really enjoyed a kind of unique relationship alone with mom and dad. then one day, in 2015 your brother is back. he says i want my bicycle, i want my bunkbed, i want my stereo and i want a piece of mom and dad again. that's what you have got here. our allies in the middle east have really had a -- kind of monopoly on their relationship with united states. by the way for many good reasons. iran took itself out by its terrible behavior. but of the fact is it's coming back now. and it's coming back at a time anderson when the arab world is incredibly weak and disorganized. so they are incredibly worried about their own ability to balance iran. israel will and can take care of itself. the arab world is becoming in many areas human development disaster area. the fact that iran is now back
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will have more money and the ability project its power obviously has them freaked out. >> that's one of the interesting things. i talked to the is railly ambassador to the u.s. -- israeli bfd to the u.s. last night. one of the are gaumentsguments he makes. there is a huge influx of money going to iran with end of sanctions and could be use ford terrorism around the world by iran or bad actions. president obama in talking to you said essentially, you have to deal with that separately from this deal. you can't make that argument in relationship to the deal? >> we in israel don't have 100% alignment of interests here. that is we want a iran that cannot produce a nuclear weapon for as long as possible. israel does too. that's where our interests overwhelmingly overlap. beyond that we can actually live with don't want to say necessarily a strong iran but a healthy iran. israel's point of view is -- it
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not only doesn't want iran to have nuclear weapons. it doesn't want a strong iran either. now i understand why. because iran has been supporting some of israel's worst enemies, hamas, hezbollah, to name two. a divergence of interests. ultimately we want an iran healthy enough to balance the sunni arab world so we don't have to do that. i understand israel's position. a separate issue. this is a complicated story. >> to say the least. president obama is clearly though framing this is in the interview with you as a deal with the same kind of rationale as nixon/china, reagan/soviet union. >> his point is simply we meg goeshate arms conmeg -- negotiate arms control agreements with the soviet union, some times we stopped when they invaded afghanistan. some times we continued. we were concerned over one overarching thing. the nakt thatfact that they had a nuclear pistol loaded and aimed at our head. we will deal with the
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overarching threat. first, foremost overall. we will have to deal with iran the same way. i will say there is one party in the whole story who we really haven't heard from very much yet. that's the iranian people. now i am not here to tell you i have any idea how they're going to react to the deal in the long run whether there will be a transformation. i think one should be very, very circumspect. not make any predictions. the fact is they mounted a revolution in 2009. okay. they picked out rhouni. the iranian election. allowed five men to run. they were mr. black. mr. black. mr. black. mr. black. mr. light black. mr. light black was rhouni the one perceived as just a little more liberal and inclined to open iran up to the world. the majority of iranians rushed to him. so that tells you something that is down there. one thing you learn when you go
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to iran the iranian people have had enough islam crammed down their throat to know they want less. and had enough democracy to know they want more of it. i am going to watch that space. >> been there once. four days. i was arrest ford three of them i've didn't get to see much. hope to go back. tom, thank you. >> pleasure. >> coming up next. more on the receipt markable moment at the white house, when president obama weighed in on bill cosby. one of his accusers is joining us with her reacts. later as the video surfaces of el chapo ducking out of his cell. inside the tunnel he used to escape. and update you on the manhunt. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit
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today, president obama was asked if bill cosby's medal of freedom would be revoked now that dozens of women said he raped them and cosby said under oath he had quaaludes. there is no precedent or mechanism for revoking a medal of freedom given to cosby. but he made it pretty clear what he thinks of cosby's admission. take a look. >> if you give a woman or a man for that matter without his or her knowledge a drug and then have sex with that person without consent that's rape. >> well after that press conference one of cosby's alleged victims, model beverly johnson wrote this on twitter. president obama states on tv drugging and having sex with a woman after is called rape. beverly johnson joins me now on the phone. i am wondering when you heard the president actually say that weighing in against bill cosby, what went through your mind?
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>> well anderson i am in d.c. perez lent presently at a speaking engagement i was in my hotel room the television was on cnn, i normally have it on cnn. my heart was beating really fast the i believe that the president obama has his finger on the pulse of this nation. and what he said was very profound and very powerful. and much needed. >> the fact that it was the president of the united states speaking from the podium does it give you a sense that the tide has really turned now here. that so many people now based really particularly on once they saw the deposition that cosby gave in which he admitted to buying quaaludes, going back to the '70s. do you think the tide has
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turned? >> i think the tide has turned with the fact that there is a rape culture in america. and you know on the college campuses you know on the work place and also with this cosby situation. so i really feel that -- it even has a more it has more impact than just this cosby situation. >> the president said there is no precedent or mechanism for actually revoking bill cosby's medal of freedom which we saw him getting there. did you -- do you accept that? does it matter to you that he has this? >> for me what matters that's well are having a conversation about violence on women. in a way from the highest office in our nation and that's, you know president obama. for me that matters. >> and that conversation is
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certainly going to be had a lot of places tonight as it has been for many nights since all of this broke. beverly johnson, appreciate you being with us. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> joining me cnn legal analyst, defense attorney and also ariva martin. ariva, you believe president obama weighing in on the controversy is a big moment for survivors of abuse? >> absolutely. when you have someone in his position the president of the united states saying if a woman is drugged and you have sex with that woman that constitutes rape. i think women who have come forward with respect to the allegations against bill cosby will feel vindication. i think those women fearful of coming forward when they have been in similar situations will also be empowered by the words of the president. i think a good moment for survivors as well as advocates. >> mark does it seem to you that president obama is now kind of weighing in on controversial topics that maybe earlier in his
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presidency he didn't? >> precisely. i think you are seeing obama 2.0 in terms of these things. today it's weighing in on what the, kind of a professorial definition of rape. yesterday it was talking about the criminal justice system is broken. something that is obvious to those of us in it. to have the president say that is spectacular. and i think there has been kind of an unleashing if you will of him and what he wants to say. although i will temper that with when he says there is no precedent for revoking the medal of honor, you know he could set that precedent. >> medal of freedom we should point out. >> medal of freedom. >> you think he could put in some kind of a way to revoke it? >> absolutely. with one stroke of the pen this week he can get rid of 47 federal criminal convictions. one stroke of the pen he can get
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rid of the medal or revoke the medal as well. as ariva says this is an important moment for women who are victims to kind of rejoice in somebody recognizes this. whether it is the wichl whine are victims of the -- bill cosby, this is a monumental moment for a lot of victims in this country. >> ariva, you believe you alluded to this that the more attention this cosby case gets that the greater the likelihood that women will come forward whether directly related to cosby or other cases, other forms of abuse? >> absolutely. saying this on your program since the story broke. this is important. for those people who keep saying why are we talking about this statutes of limitation have run. and there its nothing that can be done. i say that is absolutely false. that by talking about it. pushing the story as much as possible. we are giving per motion to
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those women who are often afraid to come forward. and who knows. there may be women who were subjected to bill cosby's, you know drug and drug induced sex, rape, that happened within the statute of limitations. they weren't willing to come forward forward. they were afraid. he is powerful. he is rich. some one may not believe him. they didn't think they could have a platform from which to speak. the more we talk about it. the president. shows like yours, national shows, the more it is written about the more we are going to start to see a shift in what we call the rape culture. and women feeling as if they have a way to come forward and their voices are going to be heard. >> mark ariva, thank you very much. breaking news in washington state. a 16-year-old girl hiked her way to safety after the plane crash that killed her step grandparents. the wreckage of the plane has been found. full details coming up. later, inside the tunnel that el chapo used to escape from a maximum security prison.
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this breaking news in the plane crash that a 16-year-old girl walked away from. her step grandparents sadly did not. she is home in washington state after the incredible ordealen the mountains. released from the hospital just last night. and was just moments ago we learned that the wreckage of the plane has now been located. dan simon joins us. what do you know? authorities confirmed they did find the plane wreckage. steep area. very vertical according to crews. when they got there they were telling us the plane was still on fire in such a remote area that the crews had to ropen to get to that particular place. we know at this point the ntsb is investigating. as for the 16-year-old. she is at home resting comfortably. still so much amazement as to how she got down the mountain. the whole ordeal surrounding it. we went to the area to take a look for ourselves. how did she do it? survive a fiery plane crash with
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minor injuries. autumn veatch leaving the hospital after one day. >> she really had the courage and will to continue on when you know she was in a very scary situation. and she is exhibited an amazing amount of strength. >> reporter: we wanted to see what she was up against. >> the country she is in is incredible. it is super thick. >> this gives you an idea of the element and surroundings that autumn first encountered. the middle of the wilderness surrounded by trees and in very rough terrain. talking about a 16-year-old girl no professional hiking experience. most people wouldn't venture out without the proper gear. boots. compass. map. all essentials for a rugged outdoors person. autumn had the clothes on her back. her cell phone was destroyed in
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the wreckage but even if it worked there is no cell signal for miles. it is thick, dense, vegetation. and the terrain is extremely steep. some ridges still dotted with snow. one of the first things you notice a good, 20, 25 degrees cooler at this elevation. it can get pretty cold at night. %-poneofthe challenges autumn faced. another challenge was feg yerg out where to go. well it turns out that perhaps the smartest decision she made was to follow the water. she follows it downstream. and that's eventually led her to a hiking path and that path led to a highway where she was picked up by those good samaritans. the plane en route from montana to autumn's home state of washington crashed on saturday afternoon. sunny was with her step grandparents leiland and sharon bowman. according to authorities she tried to save them. did she tell you how she tried to save them?
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>> she had reached in trying to grab in and pull them out. but she said there was so much fire. she couldn't. it burned her hand. she told the sheriff she stayed with the wreckage for a time until realizing the only way to save herself was to somehow go down this treacherous terrain. autumn didn't have any food with her but did have access to water. the natural kind. she told authorities she did take sips out of a creek like this but was afraid drinking too much would make her sick. she emerged severely dehydrated with moderate burns, cuts, bruises. but otherwise okay. >> if nothing else this girl has a strong strong will. and you know her coming out and being able to live leave the hospital this quickly just goes to show that. >> reporter: the plane that crashed, a 1949 bechlt echa-35. not an airplane for beginners expert say. authorities haven't said how much experience the pilot leiland bowman had.
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>> as she got into the cloud she knew something was wrong. they came out of the cloud. and she said all she saw was trees. and grandpa tried to pull the plane up. couldn't. and basically bellied in. hitting the trees. and then went down. and she said it caught on fire. >> dan, have authorities said anything about recovering the body of the victim. >> they haven't. at this point they're saying the investigation is turned over to the ntsb. but did conthey found the two body at this point. at this point things seem to be wrapped up. i guess the concern right now is trying to figure out how the plane went down. we know that the plane encountered turbulence just before it crashed. and according to weather radar, there were some thunderstorms in the area just before the plane disappeared from radar but of course it is going to be up to the ntsb to figure out exactly what happened. >> dan simon. thank you. as the search continues for el chapo, head of the sinoloa drug
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cartel. we have pictures of his escape. surveillance video from inside the maximum security prison. ducking into the shower of his prison cell. fully clothed. sitting on his bed. changing his shoes. going back into the shower. that's the last we see of him. authorities say he went into a hole under the shower and escaped through the mile long tunnel. nick valencia got inside the tunnel. here is what he found. >> reporter: this is the closest we have been allowed to get to el chapo's tunnel. the tunnel he used in his escape saturday night. it is all by accounts a magnificent feat of engineering. let's come of on in and see exactly what exactly what el chapo here had in store. a small little exit. couple feet wide. couple feet long. you see with the ladder maybe 10 foot 15 foot ladder lead down. into that tunnel. the room here is -- nothing to brag about. it is empty. full of cinder blocks. you can see these -- containers
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full of dirt here. wheelbarrows full of dirt here. we go. [ speaking foreign language ] any loose -- here is a noth ladder leading down to another part deeper part section of the tunnel. it's a ways down. you can see here this is the modified motorcycle that investigators showed us images of before this is on a -- on a track. and roll back and forth. see that. there is buckets left behind. look at this. left behind oxygen tanks as well in order for them to survive down here. it is a very tight space. i can't even stand up. i am about 5'10", i can't stand up all the way. it is just a remarkable
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remarkable feat of engineering. the tunnel stretches for more than a mile. carved out earth here. and this modified train tracks for that minimotorcycle. you see here electricity lines. it's very difficult to breathe down here. a lot of dirt. dust. and this here for the ventilation system. tight. tight space down here. but for a man known as el chapo, i'm sure he had more than enough to work, roof to work with. this motorcycle was on a track here. this is the bike that el chapo used to ride out of the prison. it still has gas in it. this left behind perhaps to power the motorcycle. you can still smell the gas. overwhelming of gas in this tight space. it really is suffocating. >> nick valencia joins us now. incredible to see and to ak sthael get down inside that tunnel. and that it went for a mile like
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that. the space where the tunnel ended, that you show us. did anybody live there? >> we spoke to multiple farmers in the area. in the months leading up to el chapo's escape. they stau two middleaw two middle-aged men coming and going, keep to themselves but they would wave to warmers. no one was living in the house. when we were there, we saw evidence of it anderson including christmas lights hung on the outside, as well as some dirty dishes on the stove left behind. anderson. >> nick valencia. appreciate it. great. >> coming up pluto is ready for its close-up. scientists learning from images of the dwarf planet.
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today the world got its closest look at pluto. i am a big nerd. this is pretty amazing. nasa beamed back from the horizon spacecraft. the detail is amazing. the bumps are ice mountains. the image captured as the probe sped past the dwarf planet. it is the fastest spacecraft ever launched and it still took it nearly a dock aidecade to reach pluto. joining me cnn analyst, miles o'brien, and bill nye, the science guy. the pictures are incredibly
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exciting. you were there for the launch of this thing. the mountain. 9 bright spot the heart. they show ice. what are we learning about pl tuchlt. o -- pluto from the images? >> we don't know yet. it has geographic regions. not just a uniform ice ball. there are five to seven, snow made of nitrogen. nitro-snow. a tar, long carbon chain nitro tar. >> it will take a long time to an lie. >> in the press conference. this is look a 57-k modem. 1 k modem. 1,000 bits a second. it is so far out there. the dish transmitting dish, bare low asly as wide as you and i are apart. people have been talking about the mission. i was in senator's office in
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2000. people really want the mission to pluto. 10,000 postcard. and so 15 years later. here we are. >> miles. remarkable this new horizon spacecraft was able to survive the fly by. what was it up against? and it boggles my mind. terrible at math and science. but the fact that they're able to -- you know get it so close, lyly in the right spot. nine, ten years later. nuts to me. >> people who do real well with math. a navigational challenge. they succeeded with. what's interesting about this mission. going back to the decision back in 2000 as bill was talking about, how do we design this mission? one of the things they wanted to do was make it kind of lean mean fast. we have a spacecraft that moved very quickly. fastest spacecraft to leave earth. made it to the moon. our moon. in nine hours. it took apolo astronauts four
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days to do it. made a bee line for polluto. does not have the fuel or rocketry on board. weight saving. cost saving. allow it to ender the orbit of pluto. such a provocative piece of data. just the first glimpse. i am sure we are going to went to think about going there again. >> bill since you were a little kid. you wonder add but pluto. >> sure. >> even now in the course of this mission, the scientists understanding of pluto has changed. thought is was a planet before. >> is it a planet? is it a dwarf planet? i don't want to get into the planet thing. instead i want a new class of object that i look to call the plutoys. the third. >> what is a plutoy? >> the arc typical plutoid is pluto. three solar systems. >> told you, i know nothing. >> mercury venus earth mars rocky have iron nickel insides.
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solid things. okay. get past that jupiter, saturn uranus yep tune.neptune. and then the plan else that are ice, those are the plutoids. >> be right back.
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